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Defensive End/ Linebacker Glen Stanley To FSU Done Deal?

[Note by Bud Elliott, 07/29/10 6:05 PM EDT ]  Bumped to the top.  This will be the official Glen Stanley-story stream.

We spoke to a source with knowledge of the situation and while this is not a done deal, the source does feel good about Glen Stanley becoming a Seminole.  This is the same source who fed us the information to originally break the story.  He is down to FSU and USF, but our source feels that Stanley's plan the entire time was to attend FSU, provided FSU wants him, which it does.  I am sure that FSU wowed Stanley on his recent visit.  And the chance to show his versatility as a pass-rusher both with his hand down and from a two-point stance could be difficult to pass up.  I would expect an announcement very soon as the team reports for Fall camp on the 5th.

If you are unfamiliar with the Stanley situation, please click "continue reading" to familiarize yourself with the recruit and his situation.  There are many inaccurate reports out there right now, which are disappointing.  Stick with us and we'll keep you apprised.  

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UPDATE:  Was able to get in touch with Stanley briefly just a while ago via text (couldn't call him, was at school).  He indicated that he is simply waiting for his release.  

UPDATE 2:  Andrew Carter of the Sentinel also talked to Stanley, who confirmed that he is waiting on his release (process described below).  Stanley told Carter he is interested in "all the Florida schools."  Some other details there as well.  Check it out.  Our take?  Stanley can't officially talk to coaches of other schools until he gets his release, but I think there's a reason only FSU outlets are reporting this.  Miami does not have room for him.  USF is also unlikely to have room.  FSU does have room and does need an edge rusher to go along with Brandon Jenkins.  Florida could be a possibility if the Gators have room.  UCF runs a 3-4 defense and could very much be a player as he originally committed there before committing to Tennessee before he committed to USC.  

Original Story:  While everyone in Los Angeles was so preoccupied with the NCAA sanctions and the potential loss of recruit Sentreal Henderson, it seems the Trojan fans and media had forgotten about Glen Stanley.  Who?  

Let's start with some background on Glen Stanley.  Stanley was a top-15 JUCO recruit this cycle.  He would likely play defensive end for the 'Noles and essentially give Brandon Jenkins a running mate at WDE.  He is either 6'2" or 6'3" and somewhere between 235 and 245 lbs.  He is rumored to run a 4.42 40-yard dash, and while that number is certainly inaccurate, he is a tremendously fast edge rusher.

So why the connection to Florida State?  Stanley is from Ocala, where he played for Trinity in '05 when they won the state title.  The following year he played at Vanguard HS.  Originally a two-star safety, he signed with Bowling Green and played well.  The following year he left the Ohio school, citing family reasons.  He then enrolled at Eastern Arizona JUCO and was excellent.  Rivals rated him a top-15 JUCO recruit, and a four-star player.  He committed to Tennessee, and when Lane Kiffin left, he switched his commitment to USC, following Kiffin.    

Stanley's coach at Eastern Arizona, John O'Mera, knows that Stanley has what it takes to be successful on the next step of this journey.  "He's got a great motor," O'Mera said. "The thing that made him a dominant player is that he played super hard."  "Kids with those tools don't go 100 miles per hour every down, but he does."

But then the NCAA crushed USC with the sanctions and by NCAA rule, any Junior or Senior could transfer and play immediately at another school without penalty because they would not be able to play in a bowl for the duration of their eligibility.  That ruling applies to players currently at USC.  What about a player who signed to play for USC before the sanctions were announced, who will be a Junior, but who is not currently enrolled at USC?  Can that player also transfer without penalty just as a current player could?  To find out, we contacted BylawBlog.com, an excellent resource for interpreting NCAA rules.  The following comes from our June 21st conversation.

TomahawkNation:  I know the NCAA said their JRs and SRs could transfer and play immediately (correct me if I am mistaken). But what about the case of a JUCO recruit who will be a redshirt JR ? He has not yet enrolled at USC. Would USC have to approve his release in a different way?  He's obviously the same year as the guys who can leave immediately, but there is this additional complicating factor of the letter of intent (LOI). To me, fairness would dictate that he be treated like any current USC JR/SR, but I know the NCAA has many rules that don't promote fairness.  Would he have to sit out a year?

BylawBlog: There are two NCAA bylaws that apply in situations where the Committee on Infractions imposes a postseason ban. One (Bylaw 13.1.1.3.3) allows other schools to recruit student-athletes at the institution without getting permission to contact those student-athletes, provided they notify the school they are contacting those student-athletes. The second (14.8.2) allows the Committee on Infractions to grant a waiver to the transfer residency requirement.

Both bylaws though only apply if the institution has been banned from the postseason for the rest of your eligibility. That means that if you played continuously, you would not have another opportunity to go to the postseason. Basically, the NCAA is not going to force student-athletes to take a redshirt year.

There is a interpretation of Bylaw 14.8.2 that allows an institution to initiate a request for a waiver of the residency requirement under that bylaw even if the student-athlete was not enrolled at the institution banned from the postseason.

So you are correct that anyone who has used two seasons of football eligibility can transfer out of USC without obtaining USC's permission and likely without sitting out a year. But you are also correct about the National Letter of Intent. Because the NLI is only administered by the NCAA, and not actually controlled by the NCAA, they cannot grant waivers to the terms of the NLI.

So to answer your final question, as far as I know, an incoming JUCO transfer to USC who has signed an NLI would not be able to play immediately on the basis of those bylaws because of the terms of the NLI. The JC transfer would be need to ask for their release from the NLI, then wait for USC to grant or deny that release. If USC denies the release, the student-athlete can file an appeal with the NLI Committee.

The student-athlete in this case would have a compelling argument. They signed with USC, then USC was banned from the postseason for the rest of their eligibility, unless they redshirt. After the NLI Committee ruled on the case, the loser can appeal to the NLI Appeals Committee, whose decision is final. I have no idea who makes up either committee.

So to make a long story short, you are correct that a JUCO transfer is not automatically released to attend another school if they signed an NLI. But they do have options and one of the best arguments for a release from the NLI that you could possibly have.

Translation:  it's not automatic, but he would have a compelling case to play right away.  

The issue now seems to be time.  Let's assume that Stanley is in Florida, that he has been for the past 10 days, and that he has already submitted his paperwork to Florida State and has asked for his release from his letter of intent.  And let's also assume, for the sake of argument, that USC has denied his request for release.  How long will it take the NLI committee to rule on Stanley's case?  Classes started Monday for the most recent Summer session, and he would need to get in quickly or wait until late July.  Also, Florida State does have an open scholarship, so there is not an issue of making the numbers work.  

BylawBlog.com has information on the timeline:

There's no timeframe for a decision  But the biggest stumbling block is that USC could delay the granting of the release for 30 days, according to the NLI Penalty and Appeal Provisions (pdf). The prospect has 30 days to appeal to the NLI Committee (and 30 days to appeal to the NLI Appeals Committee after that decision) but you would expect him to do it fairly quickly.

Being a JUCO transfer, there are naturally questions about Stanley's grades.  But at this point we simply lack the information to even speculate on his academic resume.  If Stanley expects to make an impact this season, the sooner he gets enrolled, the better.  We know he wants to be back in Florida to be with his young daughter and fiancé. 

If this all works out, and there are a lot of "ifs" here, then Stanley would make an excellent backup to right defensive end Brandon Jenkins, providing an immediate impact pass rusher and needed depth.  

We will continue to monitor the situation as closely as possible.  In the meantime, you can enjoy his film by clicking "continue reading this post..."

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Looks like Don Carthel at little ’ol West Texas A&M just got himself a helluva deal. Glen Stanley will be playing for the Buffs this year! Go Buffs!

by Ryon Atwood on Aug 24, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crazy situation

Personally I think it would be a bit of a jerk move to refuse the kid his release, but USC has to look out for themselves. I guess it will come down to if they feel they can withstand the PR hit of denying this kid a release and having him appeal to the NLI committee. I would love to see him suit up for us though as he both adds depth and still leaves room for younger studs.

by osceolafan2.0 on Jul 1, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

If they do deny him, I hope TN would make it known loud to the media that they did.

USC can’t afford much more bad press. If they knew this story might end up on ESPN, they might think twice about denying him.

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by NOLEFAN1 on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think people would care all that much, honestly.

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by Randall W. Spetman on Jul 1, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that USC can't afford to look like a bad guy during the

appeals process. They’ll give him his release, especially since he’s not even going to another school in conference or on the schedule.

by Dark Stranger on Jul 1, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on the info there

and in the main post, Stanley would be a 2 for 2, not 3 for 2 (used his RS in 2008).

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by RishiM on Jul 1, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The 2 for 2 aspect

That makes the time crunch even more crucial.

by PSLNOLE on Jul 1, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES PLEASE!!!

We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.

by NoleThruandThru on Jul 1, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah, the mythic mystery recruit is revealed, for free.

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by levynole on Jul 1, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

We've mentioned him on here several times in the recruiting and off-season threads

This is the first story on him

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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 1, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's referring to other sites keeping a lid on things.

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by Randall W. Spetman on Jul 1, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, its posts like these that integrates aspects of CFB that I wouldn't have thought about that brings TN 10 steps even more ahead in quality.

Its the integrating of contacts/resources available that puts TN’s best foot forward, IMHO.

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by FSUvaFan on Jul 1, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

There's no timeframe for a decision

But the biggest stumbling block is that USC could delay the granting of the release for 30 days, according to the NLI Penalty and Appeal Provisions (pdf).

The prospect has 30 days to appeal to the NLI Committee (and 30 days to appeal to the NLI Appeals Committee after that decision) but you would expect him to do it fairly quickly.

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by Compliance Guy on Jul 1, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

That was a wonderfully informative piece. TN rules when it comes to rules.

Compliance guy: It appears that rules are clear, if draconian. Is there some provision for ignoring the rules in the case of “undue hardship” or “in the interest of justice” that might apply here? The appeal as described has no merit. What would this young man hang his hat upon in his appelate argument?

by Nole75 on Jul 1, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

He would appeal with the same argument a current student-athlete would

There’s two appeals here. First, USC may deny the release, and the prospect would appeal USC’s decision to the NLI Committee. That appeal has two required documents:

a. An NLI Appeals Form outlining the extenuating circumstances the student believes warrant a reduction of the NLI Basic Penalty. The NLI Appeals Form is available in the Document Library on the NLI website;
b. Any supporting documentation which clarifies the extenuating circumstances.

The student would argue that the extenuating circumstance that USC will be under a postseason ban for the last two years of his career, unless he redshirts.

As far as the NLI Appeals Committee, I have no idea what a prospect would argue if their request to the first committee got denied. I would guess that decisions of the NLI Committee getting overturned on appeal are exceedingly rare.

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by Compliance Guy on Jul 1, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

So extenuating circumstances

is an issue he is allowed to argue. That will be even more compelling if he is 2 for 2 as someone indicated above.

Thanks.

by Nole75 on Jul 1, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stanley is a stud

and the kid is a definite hard worker. I project that if he comes though he will land at linebacker. I don’t see him playing on the defensive line at all.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Jul 1, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Tony steward

Would this cost us a shot at tony steward?

by seminole4 on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

NO

One kid will play defensive end if he comes.
Steward plays LB
They are three years apart. Stanley born in 87, Steward 92

by Bud Elliott on Jul 1, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

only one year overlap

He only has 2yr to play. If he came in this year, he would be out after Steward’s freshman season. Hard to imagine Steward believes he would be starting at that point anyways, with Carr/ Bradham(if he stays) as seniors and Luc/Jones/etc as soph’s with playing exp. Plus the other talent at linebacker we got this past cycle.

by DoubleNickel on Jul 1, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bud there is no way

Stanley plays defensive line. Glen is a lb all the way and only played defensive line in Arizona because of team needs. He was projected as a Sam lb at USC and went there because it was known as linebacker university. I don’t think he has the time or the frame to compete at any defensive line position at FSU.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Jul 1, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't go to USC because it was known as LB University.

He went there cause Kiffin went there. Probably cause he thought Monte could get him to the NFL.

by nolesblogger on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

nolesblogger

there are numerous quotes online of him saying the “linebacker u” quote….just use Google. He followed Kiffin there obviously though since he was signed to Tenn….and NoleThruandThru I never said he wouldn’t succeed at defensive line I said he won’t play there.

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by 1newplayer on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he was signed at Tenn, he couldn't sign with USC

He was just committed

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by geoffissiffoeg on Jul 1, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

well if i had a 3-4 package,

He would seem like a good fit at rush lb to me.

by Ponder This on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comparable to Mister Alexander

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by ricobert1 on Jul 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then why commit to UTenn?

He may have quoted the LB U line but his decision to sign with SC was more about Monte than anything else.

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by Jamil Dawson on Jul 1, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your opinion differs from many others

And who’s to say he can’t succeed at DE? Brandon Jenkins succeeds and he’s the same size. Mister Alexander had success as a pass rushing specialist, and Tosh Stevens was playing disruptive football when he weighed 225.

Not wise to say there’s “no way” he plays DE.

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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Callahan Bright is skeptical

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by ricobert1 on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

FSU Football 2010: "Everyone gets a playbook."

by ricobert1 on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aubrey Phillips

The most sensitive 400 pounder since that Giants Fan on Youtube… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-6Tn0Ie-AQ

by coonhound on Jul 1, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Competition w/ Steward may not matter....

He’s announced that Clemson is his leader. LINK

Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....

by TLHWG on Jul 1, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He idolizes Ernie Sims. Steele coached Ernie.

Clemson has NOTHING at linebacker at all.

Here’s 2011 for them

Linebacker
2007 Brandon Maye 6-2 230 SR* Mobile, ALDavidson 3 stars
2008 Jonathan Willard 6-2 215 JR* Loris, SCLoris 4 stars
2009 Corico Hawkins 6-0 230 JR* Milledgeville, GABaldwin 3 stars
2009 Quadon Christian 6-3 235 SO* Lake View, SCLake View 3 stars
2009 Spencer Shuey 6-3 240 SO* Charlotte, NCSouth Mecklenburg 3 stars
2010 Justin Parker 6’3" 230 FR*/ SO Beaufort, SCBeaufort High 4 stars

Clemson telling him he can start from day one. Clemson has a tremendous defensive staff. Honestly, he’d be very smart to go there and start for Kevin for 3-4 years.

by Bud Elliott on Jul 1, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he only has 2 yrs

Of eligibility left, because he played Juco.

by NoleySmokes on Jul 3, 2010 9:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bud's post was about 2011 HS LB Tony Steward

not JUCO DE/LB Glen Stanley.

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by RishiM on Jul 3, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

IT IS JULY 1

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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

disregard the all-caps, sorry

We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.

by NoleThruandThru on Jul 1, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most definitely

I understand the need to have something to talk about during this dead period but NSD is half a year away.

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by Jamil Dawson on Jul 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I USE CAPS LOCK

to let people know that I’m really serious. Like super cereal.

by Dark Stranger on Jul 1, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"EXCELSIOR!"

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by onebarrelrum on Jul 1, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kid 1, Kid 2, Kid 3, and of course who could forget about Kid 4

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by geoffissiffoeg on Jul 1, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did I read that right?

He used to be a safety and is now a DE? That’s quite a change…

by reznik1979 on Jul 1, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Great Info!

Did we recruit him last year out of JUCO? Do we know if any of our current coaches were recruiting him last year?

by DesiNole on Jul 1, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Stoops had to have seen him

out in Arizona. Very few community colleges in that state and even fewer Division 1 caliber players. Stanley has been trying to get back in state though. He committed to UCF at the beginning of the year. Mike Harris was our big JUCO grab last year.

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by 1newplayer on Jul 1, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

6-3 245lbs?

Is he grown-ass-man enough for the new FSU Defensive line?

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by BigSpearDiplomacy on Jul 1, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

if he's not big enough

then he can be a situational pass rusher on 3rd and long. We need a pass rush.

by B-rod24 on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

none this year, maintaining would be a lot to ask.

Still, weight article aside, this kid’s speed would warrant playing time. He is consistently on those qb’s while they are still taking their drop. Amazing.

by Ponder This on Jul 1, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I don't doubt he'll see the field and contribute.

I can’t view the highlights from work but I’ll take everybody at their word. I was just wondering if that’s something that would be stressed for him as heavily as it is for the other DL and if he has the frame to add, say, 15-20 lbs in his time here.

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by Jamil Dawson on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe his grades aren't bad?

Since he was able to enroll at Bowling Green straight out of high school, maybe his grades aren’t an issue. He probably went to JUCO in order to get recruited again instead if transferring and having to sit out a year. I know Bowling Green probably doesn’t have the highest standards but it seems like he didn’t have an issue with Tenn or USC.

by kyled on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

So if baseball has a "speed/base running" lineup, can we throw out a "penalty drawing" lineup?

We could throw Stanley out there to slow the game down as flags come flying from every direction. But who else could we put on our “All Penalty Drawing Team”?

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by SoCalNole on Jul 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

we are fsu

they only call holding against us

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by stevegrizzle on Jul 1, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

have to go back and look to be sure

but it looked like a lot of those were markers for fumbles he caused…

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by onebarrelrum on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean the LT chop

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by RishiM on Jul 1, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud,

When you talked to Stanley he confirmed that he’s not going to USC? Did you ask him about possible destinations?

I haven’t seen you address this yet. Sorry if you did.

by nolefansam on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks

and thanks for the tip about mobile from work this morning.

by nolefansam on Jul 1, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It worked and then I called IT to get the site re-added.

They asked if it was work related and I said yes. I work at a nuclear power plant so I have no idea how they bought it.

by nolefansam on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You work at a nuclear power plant

and got a site called Tomahawk Nation approved through IT? Nice one.

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by 1newplayer on Jul 1, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

deserves a rec :)

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by RishiM on Jul 1, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the Sig Line

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by SoCalNole on Jul 1, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

thx

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by RishiM on Jul 2, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sure as sh!t hope not..

but I guess that’s always a possibility.

by nolefansam on Jul 1, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have to think Florida and Miami don't have room.

Who else could he be considering? USF?

66 days till Samford. 09.04.10.

by DA-2 on Jul 1, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds like a Nole from the article
Stanley said. “… I’m giong to go in there and try to pick a school that in know I’m going to play at the first year.”

If the choices are FSU and UF, you play defense and your biggest concern is immediate playing time then the choice is easy. I wonder if he has friends on the team. He mentions having friends at both FSU and uf.

by osceolafan2.0 on Jul 1, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

UCF is just as good a shot as us, I believe

He’d be #1 on the depth chart without a doubt if he goes there.

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by ricobert1 on Jul 1, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with this.

I’d love to see this kid at FSU (as a lifelong fan), but the side of me that attended UCF thinks the idea of him and Bruce Miller on the same line is an exciting thought.

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by TheNole9Yards on Jul 1, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't see UCF

Just because the road to the NFL is harder from UCF than it is FSU. With our situation at DE he would have an outside shot at starting here anyway.

by osceolafan2.0 on Jul 1, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to think that, unlike the FSU appeal process where we were treated with a level of somewhat respect,

an appeal to the NLI Appeals Committee in a action against USC (I know that it’s a different committee than FSU’s appeal committee, and not connected to COI which dropped the hammer on USC’s egregious violations, but nevertheless still part of the NCAA good ole boy legal network), the appeal committee may not be too sympathetic to USC and may quickly free this young man from his NLI chains just for USC being USC and not granting him his quick release, which I believe is the intent of the bylaw.

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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jul 1, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Now that I read my comment over, that is one long-a$$ run on sentence.

Note to self: Use the preview feature before posting.

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jul 1, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you hit enter... it defaults to preview...

Still doesn’t help me from posting stupid BS, but just sayin’

You do have an “Enter” button on that computer of yours, don’t you Frank? It might say “Return” but it should do the same thing…

by coonhound on Jul 1, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'd be a great addition for us.

It would seem that FSU could offer him a very legitimate shot at significant immediate playing time, AND a lot of potential for national exposure. To pick up an unexpected defensive player who could legitimately be in the 2 deep roster at this time of year would be fantastic.

UCF might offer a great shot a playing time, but the exposure isn’t nearly the same (not BCS, no games against teams like OU, UM, UF— instead it’s competition like ECU, NC State and what, maybe, Houston?).

by IndyFSUnole on Jul 1, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

part of me is excited

reading about a fast edge rusher, other than Markus White…then again, White himself was a fast edge rusher in JUCO so part of me is not so excited.

by nolestuff on Jul 1, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Do you have more specifics on what he did to it?

Or do they not really know either, and that is the problem?

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by RollNole5 on Jul 1, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't.

I know from a trainer that they gave him a plasma injection.

by Bud Elliott on Jul 1, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he had the platelets removed from his blood and then re-injected back into his knee, that will only offer short term relief at best, if at all, and usually is not very effective.

It is usually done as a last resort to avoid surgery, usually to the knee or elbow, and is usually not very effective, at least long term.

Maybe TC can offer a differing opinion on this “experimental” procedure, unless it was some other type of procedure he had done..

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jul 1, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it was a true "plasma injection", then Bud's description of the injury fits.

It’s kind of a spaghetti treatment. Just see if it sticks. Cliff Lee had it done for his oblique injury, I believe.

Unfortunate for Markus. That suuucks.

I heart Cardullo...in the same way I heart the World Cup, Fat Girls, and Okra.

by Randall W. Spetman on Jul 1, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah doesn't sound promising.

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by RollNole5 on Jul 1, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

as a young man with several knee surgeries and over 30 documented severe sprains/tears....

I feel for him. I was never going to play at any sort of high level, but it pisses me off when I have to miss intramural games.

by Caveman Mafia on Jul 1, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn man that sucks

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by RollNole5 on Jul 3, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Some find it shady.

I heart Cardullo...in the same way I heart the World Cup, Fat Girls, and Okra.

by Randall W. Spetman on Jul 1, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has only 1 move, the shoulder dip/rip.

So he’s got one more move than the rest of our DE’s?

I heart Cardullo...in the same way I heart the World Cup, Fat Girls, and Okra.

by Randall W. Spetman on Jul 1, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, all of our DE's had the "Jody Allen Special"

spin upfield completely out of the play.

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by RollNole5 on Jul 1, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow.

You play 230 lb DE’s in that league? Seriously?

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Jul 1, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

He's probably a legit 240.

The New & Improved FSU S&C/Nutrition squad could maintain that through the season…..then add another 12-15lbs over the offseason easily.
Gaining muscle mass is simply a matter of lifting hard & eating more….especially more protein

Demarcus Ware was a hand-on-the-ground DE for Troy. Glen “could” provide quality snaps @ WDE in 2010 and contend for a starting spot in 2012…..it all depends on how hard he works & how quickly he adapts to the coaching.

Oderint Dum Metuant

by DRusso97 on Jul 2, 2010 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it.

Subtract the usual 5% for ‘program weight premium’ and this guy is smaller than a fullback. (Fullback: archaic position staffed in the NFL and a certain midwestern football conference.)

This is the difference, I guess, between north and south football. “Third and six? Run at the shrimp at rush end.” He would disappear.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Jul 2, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Run at the "shrimp end"

With the best LB on the team sitting behind him….Lets face it I’ll take McDaniel and 245 over Thacker and Yarbourgh any day.

Team GOLD

by fsugrizz on Jul 30, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I played vs glen in highschool here in ocala

In high school he was a safety/lb, very good athlete, IMO his frame is built for a lb, i cant envision him gaining the weight to be an every down de, but on passing downs he can definitely put his hand on the ground, smaller version of demarcus ware if I had to compare

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by jfree on Jul 1, 2010 9:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

In high school he was a safety/lb, very good athlete, IMO his frame is built for a lb, i cant envision him gaining the weight to be an every down de, but on passing downs he can definitely put his hand on the ground, smaller version of demarcus ware if I had to compare

"theres two types of people in this world, those who CARRY a spear and those who FEAR the spear"-James Coley

by jfree on Jul 1, 2010 9:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He said he will make his decision by Saturday.

Also he said he may not even go to USF for a visit ……hmmmmm

by nole2011 on Jul 29, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

who did they get??

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 29, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad, I did not mean from USC

I meant Chris Martin from Cal. Seems like people were fretting over UF getting him. I admit I know little about him or Staley at this point so was not sure if the Noles would be getting something that evens that out.

by nolestuff on Jul 29, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

On paper, Martin > Stanley

We’ll see how they both shake out

We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.

by NoleThruandThru on Jul 29, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, no. Chris Martin is more talented and has a higher ceiling.

Stanley is something FSU hopes will help this year as a stopgap until the young talent matures into the beats we expect in 2011. And I DO mean beasts. Check out 2011

Strong-Side Defensive End 58 Dan Hicks 6-4, 260, R-So. 95 Bjoern Werner 6-4, 295, So. 94 Darious Cummings, 6-3, 285, So.
Weak-Side Defensive End 49 Brandon Jenkins 6-3, 255, Jr. 96 Toshmon Stevens 6-5, 250, R-Jr. Glen Stanley 6-3 250 R-Sr.
Defensive Tackle (not Nose Guard) 93 Everett Dawkins 6-2, 285, R-Jr. 97 Demonte McAllister 6-2, 290, R-So. 94 Darious Cummings, 6-3, 275, So.
Nose Guard & Defensive Tackle 99 Jacobbi McDaniel 6-0, 300, Jr. 91 Anthony McCloud 6-2, 303, R-Jr. 90 Moses McCray 6-2, 302, Sr.
Weak-Side Linebacker Christian Jones, So.
Middle Linebacker 48 Jeff Luc 6-0, 250, So.
Strong-Side Linebacker 11 Vince Williams 6-0, 252, R-Jr.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 29, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or put another way. Here's what I see for 2011

Strong-Side Defensive End
58 Dan Hicks 6-4, 260, R-So.
95 Bjoern Werner 6-4, 295, So.
94 Darious Cummings, 6-3, 285, So

Weak-Side Defensive End
49 Brandon Jenkins 6-3, 255, Jr.
96 Toshmon Stevens 6-5, 250, R-Jr.
Glen Stanley 6-3 250 R-Sr.

Defensive Tackle (not Nose Guard)
93 Everett Dawkins 6-2, 285, R-Jr.
97 Demonte McAllister 6-2, 290, R-So.
94 Darious Cummings, 6-3, 275, So.

Nose Guard & Defensive Tackle
99 Jacobbi McDaniel 6-0, 300, Jr.
91 Anthony McCloud 6-2, 310, R-Jr.
90 Moses McCray 6-2, 310, Sr.

Weak-Side Linebacker
7 Christian Jones 6-3 240, So.
57 Holmes Onwukaife 6-3 245, R-Fr.

Middle Linebacker
48 Jeff Luc 6-0, 250, So.
11 Vince Williams 6-0, 252, R-Jr.

Strong-Side Linebacker
11 Vince Williams 6-0, 252, R-Jr.
22 Telvin Smith 6-3 220, So.
43 Nigel Terrell 6-2 230, So.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 29, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have a hard on

This was exactly what I was thinking as a read the projected depth. Maybe it’s the PS all-American in me but I’m glad to not be the only with these proclivities.

by FLpanhandler on Jul 30, 2010 8:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

StM and FLpanhandler

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jul 30, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I had to rec'd this

for the sheer fact that you used Disney porn in a thread

by Mr.Wolf on Jul 30, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is amazing, and its funny

how as of right now, we know our strong hand is our offense – No doubts about it. It makes you think that our defense will have a serious shot at being the strong hand come 2011 and 2012…I mean the above list isnt even mentioning Stoops’ specialty which are the amazing DBs we will have in 2011 and 2012.

Combine that Ridiculous D, with a Ridiculous offensive line, and a senior EJ Manuel, and you better Fear the Spear in 2012 my friends.

Should be fun…strap in….

by LetsGoNoles on Jul 29, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have arguably the top CBs from 2009 (Reid) and 2010 (Joyner)..

The safeties won’t be all world (on paper) yet, aside from the fresh 2011 crop — including everybody’s hero, Karlos Williams.

by arrdub on Jul 29, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dawkins now

2008

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 29, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

he got some sweet arm tats!

arm tats and pleated pants……

by The K-Man on Jul 29, 2010 10:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

those pleats~

Its almost as if EVERYONE is given a pair of those damn khakis when they move to Tallahassee…admit it, we all had a pair at some point!

by slc.nole on Jul 30, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not so bad

Jorts and braided belts were still in widespread use when I first moved to town.

by BayNole9 on Jul 30, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

E-Dawk

It looks like they allowed him to play in a game without pads.

by FLpanhandler on Jul 30, 2010 8:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

WOW

So in 2012 we’ll have 7 Sr.‘s and 9 Jr.’s? JUST on the Defensive Line?

OMG

by freshcollegeboy on Jul 30, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about

Damien Jacobs and Cameron Erving?

FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!

by goatnole76 on Jul 30, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The way I see it

He was at USC, and now he’s a wanted man by the Florida schools. He’s obviously talented, so I’m not worried so much about size. Size can be added, talent can’t.

by Pre on Jul 30, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Rumor has it...

Stanley will decide on Saturday.

by Noledskool on Jul 30, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

He's already decided

the announcement is supposedly on Saturday, which is little more than a formality at this point.

We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.

by NoleThruandThru on Jul 30, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Former USC LB Glen Stanley will play at Florida State - per Joe Schad

schadjoe
  
Glen Stanley said: ""My heart is at Florida State. I have a great connection with all the coaches."

by soliman on Jul 30, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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