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Best On Best -- Film Review on Florida State OG Rodney Hudson Against North Carolina

Bud has done some excellent video and snapshot breakdowns of various aspects of the offense and defense in the past including the UNC @ 2009 game (Here's your chance to use the search bar at the top right of your page!). But here, we'll be looking principally at the play of LG Rodney Hudson, who along with C Ryan McMahon and LT Andrew Datko comprise potentially the most formidable left-side OL play in all of CFB for 2 straight years ('09 -'10).

The accolades are unanimous and ubiquitous: Since stepping onto the field as a freshman in Death Valley (complete with coach Trickett telling him to "FocUs"), few linemen have garnered such praise as #62 OG Rodney Hudson. Most recently Hudson won the 2009 Jacobs Blocking Trophy, given to the best offensive lineman as voted upon by the coaches in the ACC (UVA OT Eugene Monroe won it in 2008, and was subsequently drafted 8th overall by the Jacksonville Jaguars). A lot of the times these awards are very much a result of politicking by a coaching staff, but it's hard to argue that here, especially as we delve into his performance at UNC in the film review forthcoming.

Hudson gave up a sack in that patch-work offensive line in his first game @ Clemson in 2007. And didn't give up another one until more than a year later, when he gave up 0.5 of a sack to an always-robust VT defense. He also went unpenalized the first 1,024 snaps of his college career (Source: ESPN). I can't remember the last "18-going-on-Alan-Faneca" collegiate lineman. Andrew Carter lists him as one of the 25 best players (#24) to ever see the field for FSU. ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. offers this tidbit on Hudson:

"(He's) another kid who's got a lot of talent ... and with a great year, he could be in the late 1 (first round) area.''

Draftinsider.net's take on the 25th highest-rated overall college player:

One of the better zone blocking guards to come around in a while.

His seminoles.com player bio page reads as a veritable obituary for opponents. Even his senior year of HS he doled out more pancakes than an IHOP @ 2am on a Saturday. Hudson has been named to the pre-season watch list of the two highest honors given to collegiate lineman: The Rotary Lombardi Award, and the 2010 Outland Trophy. The Lombardi Award is given to the nation's best "down linemen, end-to-end, either on offense or defense, who set up no farther than 10 yards to the left or right of the ball, or linebackers who set up no farther than five yards deep from the line of scrimmage." The Outland Trophy is given to the nation's top interior player.

So how good is #62? The best way to answer that is by seeing him go against the best. And, arguably, the 2009 UNC Front 7 was as talented as anyone in the nation, as evidenced by their #11 ranking in FootballOutsiders.com S&P+ defensive ability.  Mel Kiper says UNC has the best DT, DE, OLB, & MLB in the country.

The following film review is a collection of plays sampled and compiled from the FSU @ UNC 2009 game, made available by Youtube user AloAloysius. I encourage you to watch along with my commentary -- both for your edifcation as well as to contribute meaningfully and correct myself or others. I'm a huge fan of the open source movement, and this potential for interaction (by you, the fan and participant, having access to the same information as the writer) is vast and rich. I believe this principle, rooted in the leadership here at TN and SBN, is what sets us apart as a whole -- rich interaction and the potential for education.

What better way to start a film review than with a little blast from the past in a quote from FSU's always-colorful, never-misunderstood resident bad-ass and OL coach Rick Trickett upon his hiring in 2007:

If [the O-Linemen here] are scared of hard work, they will have a problem. If they’re not, they’ll probably be all-Conference. If they’re lazy, they’ll probably have a problem. If they’re not, they’ll probably be All-Americans. We’re going to get hard-nosed, and people will regret seeing us roll into town.

10 points for anyone who has ever repeated the phrase "Trust in Trickett" in regards to the future of offensive line play at Florida State. Daron Rose just spit up his coffee.

Did UNC end up regretting seeing Rodney Hudson roll into Chapel Hill? Absolutely.

Da goods after da jump:

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Rodney Hudson vs. North Carolina (via AloAloysius)

Author's note: The following analysis is not meant as a complete game assessment of Hudson's performance @ UNC. Rather, it is a "suggested" sampling of plays that involved him. Full assessment would require looking at all offensive snaps from a particular game. This is a lot of work for people who aren't paid to spend time on such things -- my apologies.

- @0:12 - #62 vs. #97 - Sr. DT Aleric Mullins (6'3" 300 lbs.) - That's called getting beat off the ball and driven back 2 yards.Oh, Mullins signed a 3-year deal ($1.22 million total) with the Packers on May 3rd.

- @0:43 - vs. #93 - Sr. DT Cam Thomas (6'3" 330 lbs.) - Excellent balance and ground gained on the reach step, riding the defender toward the sideline, and then finishing him off. Cam went in the 5th round in the 2010 draft to San Diego.

- @1:19 - vs. #91 - Jr. DT Tydreke Powell (6'3" 300 lbs.) - Ok, so they teach you as an OL to take your pass pro steps, and then deliver a punch to stun your defender. What your coaches don't expect from you is to stone-wall your opponent and pancake the poor bastard.

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Pass pro steps (Hudson at left guard beside left tackle Andrew Datko)

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The Salutation
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Pancake breakfast!


Tydreke's pedigree? Mel Kiper Jr. has had Tydreke as high as #1 amongst Junior DTs:

Powell caught my eye early on as a freshman, outperforming his much more heralded teammate Marvin Austin on occasion. He didn't have the type of sophomore year that I envisioned, but I still like what the future has in store for him.

- @1:30 - #97 Mullins eaten up and turned out, opposite the run. Great technique, even better tenacity. Completely took his man out of the play and used his opponent's leverage and commit direction against him.

- @1:54 - We're seeing potentially one of the best zone-blocking OGs at the college level. He takes a full reach step, accelerates downhill, engages and squares up his defender, #52 Quan Sturdivant. Hudson, with textbook engagement (hands and feet), pins Quan to the inside of the play while maintaining excellent position and tecnhnique. Quan can only watch, helplessly, as the play scoots outside his containment responsibility.

Numerous services rate Sturdivant as the #2 ILB for 2011. MKJ has put him as high as #1.

- @2:03 - Another outside zone left play. Same great step and downhill acceleration. #42 Robert Quinn (6'5" 260), lined up at OLB on the play, makes sure not to get beat outside and makes a beeline to contain the perimeter. Hudson takes what Quinn gives him and creates a nice crease for a good gain on the ground.

Quinn (along with Marvin Austin, Bruce Carter, and Quan Sturdivant) are among the players named to the 2010 Bronko Nagurski Trophy Watch List.

- @2:26 - 3rd & inches - #97 gets double teamed by Hudson and McMahon, but it's the Hudson hit that drives the man backwards.

- @3:00 - Hudson passes the twisting DT off seemlessly to Datko and picks up, rather rudely, #94 DE Michael McAdoo, and occupies him long enough to allow Ponder to squeak by on the draw.

- @3:33 - Hudson is not phased by the interior DT twist, and rides his guy around the periphery of the pocket. If anything, UNC is wasting time in not gaining ground by using this method. Credit the whole OL for a great performance. (Yes, I know Zebrie's botched block led to a turnover during the game).

- @3:44 - More fresh kill for the R. Hudson meat packing plant. This time #48 ILB Kevin Reddick gets the bad news in an almost identical repeat of Hudson vs. Quinn @2:03.

- @3:55 - #91 gets to take the H train into the secondary. It's actually good technique by Powell here. Though, preferably, you want to ride the OL to the sideline as opposed to downfield.

- @4:15 is almost a chop block, or "Hi/Lo" block, as McMahon hits him high and Hudson cut blocks the DT. Good cut block, nonetheless. Hudson reaches top speed in about a step, which is beyond impressive for a lineman.

- @4:22 - #93 gets the better of Hudson here, extending his arms, wrestling Hudson off his base to his left, and scraping Hudson off to make the hit. Better hand placement could have neutralized Thomas here, but I'll give him his credit for technique.

In just one game, Hudson went against some of the best collegiate defenders: 2 current NFL players (DTs Cam Thomas & Aleric Mullins), 2 likely future NFL players (LB Quan Sturdivant, DE Robert Quinn) and 2 talented collegiate players (DE Michael McAdoo, LB Kevin Reddick). Note that overall Hudson did not get many opportunities against ultra-quick DT Marvin Austin, a 5* recruit that UNC was able to snag away from FSU. (While this still sucks -- if he's here, the 2009 defensive collapse may not have been as bad, and the wheels of motion may still be stuck in the proverbial mud).

In perhaps one of the toughest games of the year against arguably the most talented front 7 in CFB in 2009, Florida State's #62 Rodney Hudson put on a clinic for observers -- in technique and tenacity. From my point of view, the only thing left for Hudson to accomplish is adding additional upper body strength. No, really -- that's the only thing he's lacking. His balance combined with power and agility make him a fierce zone-blocking OG that can only get better as he gets his man strength. The only downside for FSU fans is that will most likely happen on the other side of the draft. In addition to the accolades mentioned above, Hudson is looking to repeat as only the 2nd FSU player to win the ACC's Jacobs Blocking Trophy two years in a row (Clay Shiver). Like Shiver, I expect Hudson to be a center at the next level.

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>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jul 13, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm honored, Frank

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Jul 13, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm by no means a huge "great job! rah rah" kind of poster,

But this one deserves it. Truly excellent job. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I heart Cardullo...in the same way I heart the World Cup, Fat Girls, and Okra.

by Randall W. Spetman on Jul 13, 2010 1:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

FocUs

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jul 13, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Knowing Trick

I’m certain it was not

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jul 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man he faceplants a lot

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jul 13, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Into his opponent, you mean?

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Jul 13, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Into them just enough.

I know it’s kind of picky, but I would think he could use more work maintaining his balance when reaching the second level so that he can take them completely out of the play.

Bring back Korey Mangum — a true Nole!

by SoCalNole on Jul 13, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

First Play

While technically probably not a pancake he still drives his guy into the dirt and gets to own him. HAHA. Hudson is awesome and am glad he is back for his senior year. Great write up. Look forward to seeing more of this kind of analysis if possible. Not just oline play but other positions too. Maybe after this year we will have a highlight reel like this for a defensive player? Maybe? We all hope I’m sure.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Jul 13, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Fair enough

I’d argue that he does get him a little airborne on the jolt and then wrestles him down. Definitely a knockdown, but not a prototypical pancake.

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Jul 13, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt

an awesome play.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Jul 13, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoping that he will help lead our lines

to have a dominating year against the good and bad teams.

by StM on Jul 13, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, this game was good, but

we would be better served dissecting how both of these guys performed against USF and Ga Tech (4th quarter), etc. They are great players, but they still have room to take it up a click.

by Ponder This on Jul 13, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubtful

Every player will have an off game or two per year. It’s just the way sports works.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 13, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow,nice job

I love this site, just about everyday feels like my brain is swelling from all the information,Unbelievable!!

by seminole4 on Jul 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude is just plain nasty...

One would have to question why we would ever QB sneak over the right side at the moment…

Team GOLD

by fsugrizz on Jul 13, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Great Job

I would love to see one of these on Nigel Bradham. Despite the hype and his leaning to leave after this year, it seemed he got lost in the shuffle a little last year. I would love to see if it was his doing or just the play of our defense.

by jimmygnole on Jul 13, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s the play of the defense and poor coaching. He was one of the leading tacklers last year and constantly had to fight through blockers to make those tackles. LBs need help in front of them to make plays, our didn’t have any of that.

by evenflow58 on Jul 13, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not just help

some sort of idea about what they’re going to be doing would help too.

by BenDNole on Jul 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was discussed on here frequently

He was the ONLY LB we had that seemed to know how to fight through a block or have any natural technique whatsoever. Coaching killed him.

When the first play on this video happened in game me and my friends were geeked (yes we were getting smoked, we needed something to get excited about). “World class speed” having Jeff Demps nearly gets hawked by Bradham. He definitely was step for step and he had to cover a greater distance due to the angle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDHBfmiY9ik

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jul 13, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should warn

Don’t watch the whole video, it’s by some Gator tool bag, I just wanted to illustrate that the guy has a special skill set. And he was all over the place making tackles in this game.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jul 13, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at the UNC game

2nd play of the game – 2nd & 10 – Power Right from I – Pretty good play from everyone, except Bradham gets lost on the WLB and inexplicably washed down by a double-team intended for McCray (gets destroyed, by the way). If Bradham reads it better, he hits the ball carrier 3 yards past LOS. Fortunately, Carr scrapes off his blocker and is able to make the play from behind, but not before a 7 yard gain.

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Jul 14, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

*lost as the WLB

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Jul 14, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good job!

Man, if FSU had Trickett five years earlier, well they still would not have done as well as we would have liked, but with his players and coaching the blocking would have made even some of the predictable play calls by JB work out better than they did and could have garnered a couple more wins per year perhaps. He is as much responsible for the offensive turnaround as Fisher. One part of the equation without the other would not have gone over so well.

As for Hudson, I hope he goes on to have a career like Walter Jones.

by nolestuff on Jul 13, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Can you imagine. . .

Trickett working “under” JB for more than five minutes? I can just imagine the look on Trickett’s face after trying to explain a zone blocking scheme to JB.

The only predictable benefit of having Trickett arrive under JB would have been that on one foggy morning sometime in mid-2002 season, the players would have arrived to find JB sitting in the bathroom, holding his rifle, a demonic look on his face. Trickett would have come in, and said something to the effect of:

“What is this Mickey Mouse sh*t? What are you two animals doing in my beloved head? Why is Private Pyle out of his bunk after lights out? Why is Private Pyle holding that weapon? Why are you not stomping Private Pyle’s guts out?”

And you know the rest. We would have gotten a replacement OC earlier and probably been better off . . . . Oh, well, I’m just happy we’re on the upswing boys. Looking forward to watching the O rolling this year. Locked and Loaded, Full. . . Metal . . . Jacket.

"There are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese." -- Coach Finstock

by BigSpear on Jul 14, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Looks a bit lost

Although a great in his element, he seems to lack a little bit in open space i.e. screens. He tends to get top heavy, off balance, and lost.

by camfsu04e on Jul 13, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

test

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.

This team will improve in '10... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years.

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 13, 2010 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Hudson

What more can you say about this monster of a fella, I’m just glad he’s on OUR side.

by Chief03 on Jul 13, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Great job!

I would like to see more of these.

by 504Nole on Jul 13, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Too add to my previous comment

I also would like to see a comparison of the 2009 defensive players vs. the 2010 defensive players at the end of this upcoming season. Such as, a review of Kendall Smith in 2010 and compare it to how he progressed from the 2009 season with film & picture examples.

by 504Nole on Jul 13, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I'm certain there will be a LOT of comparing going on around Dec. 2010 - Jan. 2011

Of the overall performances of the two defenses with cited examples (like the player you mentioned).

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jul 14, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Top candidates for most improved player?

Jenije, Smith have to be at the top of the list… Dawkins wasn’t a goat last year, but is expected to make big strides. Any of our DEs could make a big jump. Maybe counter-intuitive because of his already existing star-power, but Greg Reid might rightfully claim this title if he handles his CB spot as well as he handled punts last year. Exciting to think about.

by arrdub on Jul 14, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope its a tie for most our D

But also, Im thinking C.Thompson could have a real breakout year.

by harper.rb on Jul 14, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Smiley, Rodney Smith,

…even Fortson could make HUGE strides if he upped his consistency.

by arrdub on Jul 15, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent analysis.

On the subject of the offensive line as whole there was a good bit of discussion on splits last year. Any indication if those splits will spread out even more this year?

by maxi_judson on Jul 14, 2010 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Great question

I, unfortunately, do not know. Someone will actually have to ask JF/RT about plans here.

Bud wrote this in the BYU game last year:

For reference, FSU’s offensive linemen will use 18" splits this year and used 12 inch splits last year.

Georgia Tech uses extremely wide splits (>28"). Check out this article on offensive line spacing (“splits”).

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Jul 14, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was told FSU wants to be at 18. I expect 18 unless I am told different.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 14, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's preference within a range

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 14, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really, really enjoyed this.

Grace I call Your name, Oh won’t Your smile fall over me, I’m cracked and dry on hands and knees, Oh sweet grace rain down on me I need You grace
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by FSUvaFan on Jul 14, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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