2011 Recruiting Discussion Thread #5 [closed]
by DA-2 on Jul 17, 2010 10:48 PM EDT
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Notes:
- DB Cortez Davis decommits.
- OL Bobby Hart commits to Florida State. 07.16.10.
FAQ:
1. Are the five-star Texas RB considering FSU?
Somewhat, but FSU seems to be outside looking in. We know FSU is in their top four both, but we don't buy the hype. Malcom Brown will most likely go to Texas, and Aaron Green will likely join his cousin at Nebraska. New article suggests that both still have FSU in their top four. Credit Coach Eliot for his Texas connections getting FSU's foot in the door. If they decide to officially visit, we will add them to the board.
2. What happened to De'Joshua Johnson?
Was not able to qualify for Florida State. Appears he needed much more work academically than what was represented...
3. Will FSU take 2 WRs now instead of just Rashad Greene?
This is tricky. FSU is loaded at wide receiver and doesn't need to take another. FSU could have as many as 13 wide receivers in 2011. That's more than optimal and is not a good use of finite resources (85scholarships). However, this answer likely depends on the future of Jarmon Fortson (could go pro early), Taiwan Easterling (baseball, but when?), and Cam Wade (don't see many non-contributing 5th-year seniors on the roster). The coaches will be in the best position to determine this, and we are not going to second guess their move here.
4. What's up w/ Tony Steward?
Steward camped at Clemson over the weekend. Clemson is in desperate need of linebackers because its current crop lacks both quality and numbers. Plus, Steward's idol is Ernie Sims, who was coached by Clemson LB coach Kevin Steele. Steward named Clemson his leader following the camp. Despite this, we are confident in FSU's position with him. Steward is very respectful and has said good things about everyone. Clemson will be an underdog in 5-7 games this season and it would be hard to see them land the top LB prospect in the nation from out of state while finishing with 5 or 6 losses. While we are mindful that Clemson can promise him an immediate starting job playing for Ernie Sims' former coach while FSU cannot (FSU is loaded with linebacker talent), we think FSU is in good position at the present time and that FSU's position will only improve from here. It will really depend on whether the kid prefers immediate playing time or the better program.
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OK guys... finish out our recruiting class. I'll keep mine to myself until everyone has gotten a chance to post theirs. Keep in mind who we have:
QB Jake Coker
RB Eric Beverly (I will go on the record saying I do not believe he takes a greyshirt, feel strongly about this)
RB Devonta Freeman
WR Rashad Greene
OL Trey Pettis
OL Sterling Lovelady
OL Bobby Hart
DL Nile Lawrence
DL Derrick Mitchell
LB Terrence Smith
DB Tyler Hunter
DB Lamarcus Brutus
DB Keelin Smith
DB Karlos Williams
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 18, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions
Agree with the grayshirt opinion
It’d be best for the team. But it may not be the best choice for him, personally.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
Not sure that happens
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 18, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
It’d be “optimal” for FSU, but most likely not for him.
Gehres, a past grayshirt, makes off OK because his family lives here in Tally, and could most likely afford to pay a semester out of pocket before his Scholarship kicks in for Spring.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
Would you rather he rehabs the knee at home or under FSU's supervision?
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Grayshirt doesn't mean stay home
It means you spend the Fall year enrolled at the school but not officially with the team – no scholarship benefits or payments for things like rehab. However, come Spring semester, you may begin your NCAA timeclock (“5 years to play 4”). This theoretically gives you an extra “Fall” to compete. You could still RS for the following Fall season, giving you 4 years after that RS Fall to play 4 years.
I don’t know the details on injured players and greyshirting with respect to staff medical involvement / rehab, but it’s probably dicey to say the least.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
I’m pretty certain he can’t partake in any team activities or benefit from any team services, such as the rehab/training staff.
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He can particpate in some things, like voluntary workouts (I remember Gheres doing these)
But i doubt he could get medical treatment paid for by the school and maybe not even under the school’s supervision.
What about the possibly of trying to get a medical redshirt though? This would do pretty much the same thing as the gray shirt but still allow FSU and Beverly to both get all the benefits of a scholarship player.
by nolesblogger on Jul 18, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
I believe greyshirt stops you from enrolling “full” time. Enrolling full time starts your clock, whether or not you benefit from “scholie” or resources from the school.
And, as some who’ve greyshirted before, you can even enroll in another school while sitting out (the ones I know of who did enroll enrolled in junior college part time – many at Tallahassee Community College). As long as it is part time. Full time would kick in “transfer” rules.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jul 18, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess
OL – Mike Matulis
DL – Terry Bell
DE – Ray Drew
DE – Giorgio Newberry
DE – Aaron Lynch
LB – Tony Steward
I see no one is counting Pryor (sp) in this class
I thought he was a lock at one time, and especially with the flip flop status of Davis. He looks more like a playmaker to me anyways. Davis looks gun shy on film.
I'll give a performance measure rather than a prediction...
…because I think the overall quality of the class will be fine in terms of overall needs being met — the primary benchmark being a lot of big athletes to fill out the trenches, and we’re sitting fairly well on that front already (Stample, Mitchell, Hart, et al). So the issue to me is a marketing angle: whether we can say the perception of FSU being “back” is hurt or hindered by this class — which helps us with next year’s recruiting cycle. Here’s what I’ll say.
A. Get Drew and Steward, we’re golden.
2. Get 1/2 and I’m satisfied.
D. Whiff on both and I’m disappointed.
I predict we fall in at level (2); get one and lose the other. Even though Drew is at a position of much more significant need and he would presumably have the more significant impact, I am currently coveting Steward a little more because we’re going head to head with a Division rival for him, whereas we’d probably lose Drew to UGA.
Would O'Leary fit into your perception thing at all?
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For sure, he would sway our position, but the two I mentioned are the lynch pins.
That might be, in part, because it’s been so long since we’ve featured a tight end…a weapon at that position is still pie in the sky to me.
So I guess I’m viewing him as gravy… a very nice consolation if we whiff on one or both, or a cherry on top if we get all 3.
Predicted Class
Bolded – Currently Uncommitted Recruits
I’ll preface this by stating that I probably haven’t followed some of these prospects and their recruitment as closely as most of you, but figured that i would toss out my thoughts.
1. QB – Jake Coker
2. RB – Eric Beverly
3. RB – Devonta Freeman
4. WR – Rashad Greene
5. OL – Trey Pettis
6. OL – Sterling Lovelady
7. OL – Bobby Hart
8. OL – Mike Matulis
9. OL – 1 of Errin Joe/Quincy McKinney
10. TE – Brandon Fulse
11. DT – Nile Lawrence
12. DT – Derrick Mitchell
13. DT – Chavis Akins
14. DT – Terry Bell
15. DE – Ricardo Williams
16. DE – 1 of Ray Drew/Aaron Lynch/Giorgio Newberry
17. LB – Terrence Smith
18. LB – Tony Steward
19. DB – Tyler Hunter
20. DB – Keelin Smith
21. DB – Karlos Williams
22. DB – Robenson Therezie
23. DB – Wayne Lyons
De-Commit:
DB – Lamarcus Brutus
I realize that 23 is a bit high. However, I think we’ll wrap up roughly 16-17 Commits by September, 18-19 Commits by Seasons end, and could see a more focused effort by our staff on a few of the heavy hitters such as Steward, Drew, Newberry, Therezie, Lyons, etc. through NSD. With that said, I could see us taking some of the elite level kids as late commits even though the #’s may push our limit.
There is a good possibility that I am way off, on the #‘s or even a few of the prospects. I didn’t figure in the unknowns that could come into play because of Trickett’s propensity to review SR tape and the addition of a few late bloomers that are off the radar. However, at this point, given the recruits that I am aware of paired with the current commits, that is the class that I could legitimately see coming to Tallahassee in the fall of 2011.
EDIT
I meant to post:
22. DB – Kevin Grooms
23. DB – 1 of Robenson Therezie/Wayne Lyons
Why do you think Brutus decommits?
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by stevegrizzle on Jul 21, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Do not see 4 DTs unless Jacobs is really screwing with us about qualifying
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Agreed
Don’t think we take Akins—he showed up to camp overweight and he’s got a knee injury… don’t know how serious the latter is though. I’d be happy with Bell.
p.s. I’m worried about Jacobs—don’t think he’s even on campus yet (unlike Harris).
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Have heard recently that Akins has no shot at qualifying
can anyone confirm that?
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 21, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Not a bad list overall.
I’m not of the opinion we land either Lyons or Therezie. The Brutus/Grooms “swap” may have some merit. Only other thing is if we take 6 DL, I think we’d prefer 3 DT and 3 DE.
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Hmmm...?
QB Jacoby Brissett
RB ?
WR Andre Davis ( I Guess)
TE Nick O’Leary
OT Mike Matulis
OL ? ( Looks like a no for Joe)
DT Terry Bell
DE Ray Drew
DE Newberry, Rasco or DT Atkins
DE Ricardo Williams
LB Tony Steward (fingers crossed)
CB Kevin Grooms
I’m sure 26 is too many
Steward didn't make it to Alabama this weekend
Family emergency.
He is also tentatively scheduled a visit to FSU for a few days at the end of July.
Matulis, Bell, Ray Drew, Ricardo Williams are the only ones I will predict atm. I’ll add Steward once the season starts if Clemson really starts blowing. Haven’t really been following our TE recruiting a ton. Some seem to think we lead for O’leary, others think Canes. I personally don’t expect additions at QB/WR/RB, though maybe someone will sneak in there.
Confident on Drew cause of all the things we have going for us—his growing up a fan and having made it to a lot of our games, the proximity to his church, his apparently being friends with Debrale Smiley, and then of course the potential mess at UGA with the arrests and with Richt potentially being on the hot seat.
May as well take a swing of my own and post a projected final class
QB Coker
RB Beverly (non grayshirt), Freeman
WR Greene
OT Lovelady
OT Hart
OL Pettis
OT Matulis
TE O’ Leary
DT Mitchell
DT Lawrence-Stample
DT Bell
DT Akins
DE R.Williams
DE Newberry
LB T. Smith
DB K.Smith
DB Brutus
DB K. Williams
DB Hunter
Not comfortable with Steward at all right now. I don’t believe we take any more offensive skill guys unless they are absolute studs. Six defensive linemen may seem like a bit much, but I think thats how many we take. We fall short with Lynch (ND), Drew (UGA), but Rabasa seems more feasible though I don’t see him in the class. The defensive wildcard is Rasco. I hear the Auburn talk with him is just that, talk. And if he gets out of Louisiana, FSU will be the destination. It will be a hard pull.
Of our commits I believe Brutus may be the one most likely to fall out. FSU was panned initially for excepting his commitment but since then he has proved his worth on the camp circuit, therefore expanding his options. I think the staff can keep Hunter. If we take any more DB’s it would probably be Golson, Pryor or Grooms IMO. Waisome is a pipedream (UF silent). I’d almost just as soon be done at DB however
I realize my numbers are low. But we may take a surprise or two like a Robert Way or a DB who blows up during the season
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 18, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
Ok so let's discuss Ricardo Williams
With Jimbo’s new philosphy on wanting to be bigger (which I def agree with), why are we interested in Ricardo Williams??? He has the height but his frame looks like it would max out around 240? I am under teheimpression we want our weak side DE to be around 260-270. Lift off in: 3,2,1,…GO!!!
I wonder if they are thinking LB for him. Maybe a rushing backer?
Personally, I could see him getting to 230-235 with his frame, but not much more.
by Dark Stranger on Jul 18, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Williams is a gifted pass rusher for one (13 sacks in 9 games I believe while playing with Kitchens last year)
If the staff didn’t think that Viloria could bulk him up I doubt they would be pursuing. He’s an obvious RS and wouldn’t be projected to get meaningful snaps until fall of 2013 as a RS sophmore. That gives him totals years to mature physically. We’re projected to have 280+ pound SDE’s at our disposal while rotating agile 300 (Or near) pounders in the interior (Erving, Jacobs, McCloud, Mitchell, Stample). With a defensive line composed of such size we can afford to have a smaller WDE sticking his hand in the ground on pass downs and pursuing the QB. Ricardo is the type who can generate 8 plus sacks in a season while playing almost exclusively on passing downs. Worst case scenario: He’ll be another LB we can deploy on zone blitzes along with Christian Jones
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 18, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant to say that gives him 3 years to physically mature before he would be expected to contribute
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 18, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That makes sense
If being recruited as more of a situational player instead of an every down DE then that’s fine cause it makes much more sense
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Jul 18, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd think WDEs in Stoops' zone scheme
probably share a lot of the same necessary skills / athleticism you’d expect from a LB.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
I dont think a WDE has to be 260-270 necessarily
Williams may be a backup option. A guy who may end up at a place like UCF
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I figured Drew and Rasco would be our primary options at WDE
So that would make sense. Rabasa would have to to be a fallback as well since we’ll have a hard time landing either of those top two
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 18, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely don't see how a 270 pounder in college is a WDE.
That’s a big boy lol.
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Welll
Ray Drew is already over 250 and he will be a WDE. Jimbo wants WDE that are quick and fast while still being quite robust. He’s looking for “FREAKS” to play the WDE position. Not to say that we won;t have 240 pound WDE, but I think Jimbo prefers a guy like Brandon Jenkins, only 20 pounds heavier…ala RAY DREW
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Jul 18, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
If he comes here, Viloria will basically try to keep him where he’s at. Maybe 5 to 10 pounds but no more than that. he would train him with explosive type training to be even quicker
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Jul 19, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think 250 - 260 for a WDE... Not that if they can get bigger fine, but they MUST be pass rushers foremost. and agile enough to drop into covereage.
Most 270+ pound DE’s in College are not considered primarily rush ends.
Giddy-up!
Very good point about the coverage.
I’m not used to all the zone that we’ll be playing and I hadn’t even thought of that.
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I think Jimbo and Stoops simply want quality DE prospects
and figure out the position stuff later.
by Noletorious on Jul 19, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
The trenches are key to this class...
Adding a couple great ends and Bell to go with what we have will be key for me. The biggest thing I see us missing is a true playmaking end. Adding Lynch or Drew (or possibly Newberry on the strongside) would sew up that gap perfectly.
I think adding Steward is important, too. He’s extremely good and will be able to take over when Bradham is gone. If Steward is able to make himself an apprentice for 1 season (and still play in the rotation), he’ll be happy to be paired with Luc, Jones, etc. as the premier LB unit in the country.
I’d like to see us add a mauling guard as well late in the cycle. Maybe a prep or juco kid that can challenge for Hudson’s spot.
A 2012 starting LB group of Steward, Luc and Jones would be crazy
3 5*s… Would almost feel bad for Telvin Smith… Although I wouldn’t count him out either.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Telvin will be in the rotation regardless
Way too much talent. Imagine rotating those backers!?! man oh man!
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Jul 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody know if Kevin Grooms
is visiting this weekend or will he be here for the camp on Wednesday? I heard both
Another site is saying the camp.
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Ten minute Ray Drew interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKaSFIudJ0I
48 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
did he even say anything about FSU? Should we be worried?
I can tell he’s a great kid
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 18, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
predicting
current commits +
OL Matulis
DT Terry Bell
LB Tony Steward
TE O’leary
DE Lynch
DE Rabbassa
DL/OL Ricardo Williams
Giddy-up!
I know Trick likes them a little light and more athletic.....
but I don’t see R Williams at OL. I’m assuming a typo there.
trick does not like them light
you are incorrect in that assumption. that was all he could land the first few yrs bc of the state of our program.
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by stevegrizzle on Jul 19, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
And the guys we have didn't get those bench/ RS years to develop
They had to play and couldn’t be sore on gameday
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 19, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Would be surprised if we took 6 DL
If we do you can bet one won’t qualify or someone will transfer
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Even though we were expecting to take several more DL last year and missed?
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My guess on our finish, if signing 22 which is possible
Bell
O’Leary
Steward
Drew
Newberry
Joe
Lynch
surprise/unknown commit
Grooms to camp at FSU
http://twitter.com/FSU_Sports/status/18883048932
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So does KML over at TR, which is a good thing
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 19, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Despite Steward's consistant comments about waiting until Signing Day
There are many who feel that he will actually pull the trigger in August.
If this is indeed the case, this tentative visit to FSU next week (end of July) could be HUGE!
Thoughts on Gosha?
Haven’t heard a peep about him in ages. Usually that means we should forget about him. I prefer Bell, but would take Gosha back in an instant.
SEC player
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Just a guy who wants to play the best IMO
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 19, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
lol u the man
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Camps
What is the significance of a player attending our summer camps, if any, with respect to their interest in the program? Is there a correlation between a player’s interest in the program?
Which one of the 2011 recruits are possible EE's?
Only 1 I have heard about is Terrance Smith.
EE's were a big part of UF's success
You get commits early and hopefully get more EE’s. We need more EE’s IMO.
Ryan Kelly
Any chance he picks us when he announces? Do we still want him even?
Is he announcing soon?
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Yea, just saw on another site it says "OL target deciding today".
Figured that’s who it is.
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Supposedly he and UF have some mutual interest
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 19, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone hear more about this??
All About Benjamin: With a visit coming, Florida State has jumped in the mix for WR Kelvin Benjamin.
- ESPN Insider article headline
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Jul 19, 2010 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
Benjamin has size for sure but...
I don’t see much more ability or skill. He’s also been held back a few years in school, making him ineligible to play in his final 2 games of his senior season because he’ll be too old (19). Not sure if there are any other red flags with him.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
I think they just made it up.
I saw that myself.
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I know he's been mentioning FSU in recent interviews.
It sounds like he’s the gayturds to lose though.
Maybe the crocs can pull Watkins and the canes can then drop the ball. I mean it’s possible….?
Us getting Benjamin isn't worth UF getting Watkins
Guys like Benjamin come out every year in Florida, and while guys like Watkins do too, they are certainly less frequent and more talented.
It may not have to play out exactly like that though.
by nolesblogger on Jul 20, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Not if Watkins goes to Clemson....
which seems to be a real option now.
by Noletorious on Jul 20, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
There is nothing new to report at all
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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I'm not sure where this stuff about Newberry wanting to commit at JF camp is coming from
but I hope it’s true. I think he holds out for a while though.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 21, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he's wide open
but FSU has just as good a shot as any.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 21, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Not an insider
However I’ve heard he is recruiting for FSU from pretty reputable people
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 21, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Chris Martin to transfer from Cal to the Gators
Rivals reports five-star 2010 DE/LB Chris Martin will be transferring to UF. Will have to redshirt after enrolling at Cal. Here is their updated 2010 DL class:
- Chris Martin, 5* DE
- Ronald Powell, 5* DE
- Dominique Easley, 5* DT
- Sharrif Floyd, 5* DT
- Leon Orr, 4* DT
- Lynden Trail, 4* DE
- Neiron Ball, 4* DE
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Could cost them Pagan
See my signature. FSU has a LONG ways to climb. Some claim Fisher has told folks FSU is 2 recruiting classes, minimum, away from being on the same field with those guys.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 21, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, two solid classes is reasonable. But it doesn't take the frustration out of that DL class.
We still have the 07 class’ legacy hanging over us. Those guys could’ve been stud senior leaders for us this year. Instead…
It seems plausible that we'll competitive with UF
2-3 years after we have comparable recruiting classes, no? No telling when this is now….
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
I think he is saying 2 full years worth of recruiting classes
so the 2011and 2012 classes, at a minimum.
by nolesblogger on Jul 21, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if we did
It isnt close to what UF has.
They have years of developed recruiting classes, and we are about to drop what? 5+ players to make room for a 22 player class?
Sure dead weight is dead weight, but where we will have freshmen and soph (talented yes) they will have juniors and seniors as talented.
We'll have to have 2 years of stellar DL classes just to match their 2010 crop.
That batch of talent is unprecedented. I just hope they have lots of egos rubbing against each other and they self-destruct.
Not that this is something we can bet or depend on
and correct me if I’m wrong, but they haven’t developed their DT’s exceedingly well in recent years. (I believe the open letter Bud wrote to a particular former Gate stated as such) So maybe despite their large talent pull, they won’t be filthy stout up the middle.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
True, most of them fail out or get the boot before finishing.
Marcus Thomas, Torrey Davis, John Brown, Dunlap… who else?
UF: Blue Chip DLs Die Here.
Including Dunlap on that list is a little misleading though.
Also Davis made some big plays on the goalline in the championship game against OU.
by nolesblogger on Jul 21, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Davis was simply a nutjob who couldn’t stay out of trouble apparently. Unlike Brown, he actually did a little something on the field prior to getting the boot. And while Dunlap has his foibles as a player and also embarrassed himself by getting that DUI, I would love to have an End at FSU who matched his production. 18.5 sacks his last two years while playing effectively against the run when his motor ran warm
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 21, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The issue is that both had all the talent in the world...
and (due to Florida’s issues keeping their players in line) both left the college game shamefully and cost themselves A LOT of money in the process.
Before we mope ourselves into oblivion...
Keep in mind that a few positions on the field have the ability to equalize a greater disparity in talent at several positions.
Having a top flight QB with reliable weapons will nullify a significant disparity in other areas. Also, they can only play 4 (generally) of those DL at one time. Our offensive line needs to be good enough only to slow them down and re-direct them in order for us to be successful.
by Dark Stranger on Jul 21, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Your right that they would only play 4 at a time
But D-lines constantly rotate and they’ve got quality depth with little drop off
by nolesblogger on Jul 21, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Trickett and crew are the neutralizers in this aspect.
Track record includes taking 1 and 2* OLs at WVU and making minced meat of many a star-studded DLine.. including UGA and Oklahoma in BCS games.
But we have also struggled with quality D-linemen against UF and USF
We did do quite well against UNC though.
by nolesblogger on Jul 22, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions
And well against Clemson
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To me, this is Trickett's first season with a veteran (read: heavy enough) crew.
Last year we still had all 5 starters on the OL under 300 lbs (I am pretty sure?). That’s just not playing with a full deck.
So I am waiting to see what this year’s squad can do against the likes of UF. I made a guess earlier this offseason that we will rush for more yards this year against them that the last two combined.
I like to see it as 4 classes
UF is two years ahead AND we’re two years behind. I think all squads will have equal talent (if team records play out as expected) in 3-4 years. We’ll be competitive in 2 because their good players will be gone and our bad players will be gone…but it will take 4 years to have two equally talented squads IMO.
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by The Ryno and I Know on Jul 22, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Add UGA to the list of schools being investigated by the NCAA for player/agent involvement
just scrolled across the ticker on ESPN.
Could have an impact on Drew’s recruitment
First the arrests, and now an investigation?
I know you’re not supposed to revel in the misfortune of others, but that’s potentially great news.
I know Jimbo's not about negative recruiting
…but you don’t think he may just mention the UGA issues to Drew?
I don't think so
With a kid like Drew I’d be concerned that could backfire. ONLY sell the positive of your school I’d say. He’s too respectful to want to hear a coach be disrespectful of another program.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
If Jimbo's tactful enough he can mention it without mentioning them or appearing to slam UGA.
Mention how he wants to run a clean program without arrests or agents, or something along those lines. That would be fair in my eyes.
Ding.
and he’d be foolish not to draw a contrast between FSU and other schools in that manner.
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by PeachTreeNole on Jul 22, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Per @LukeStampini
#UCF is the new leader for Homestead DE Ricardo Williams after visiting the campus. “It was a great visit for me.” -Williams
#FSU was the leader for Ricardo Williams, but he claims to not have heard from them in a while
I think FSU is in better position for some defensive ends than some here believe.
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i think they want burton and councell as lb
they wouldn’t have filled DE when they are going after lynch so hard
If true, this blows my mind.
How can you let that kid get away if he had reservations about ND? It’s not like we have an over-abundance of DEs that we can be super-choosy, IMO.
by Dark Stranger on Jul 22, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind.
Thought we were talking about someone else…
by Dark Stranger on Jul 22, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I havent followed this recruiting season much, so I have a (hopefully easy to answer) question....
What is the order of DE recruits (targeted by FSU) in priority? and then the order of possibility?
Besides knowing some of the names, I really don’t know which ones are the best vs the rest.
Thanks for any help here
From the general consensus
WDE
1) Ray Drew 6-5 243
2) Jamauria Rasco 6-3 227
3) Anthony Rabasa 6-3 225
4) Ricardo Williams 6-5 200
SDE
1) Aaron Lynch 6-6 245
2) Giorgio Newberry 6-6 257
(both of these kids could also be stud OT’s though FSU is not pursuing them as such)
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 22, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
All these kids are possible pulls
I’m thinking Lynch will go to ND and Rasco will be a hard pull from his native Louisiana. But all these kids seem to be in play somewhat equally
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 22, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Williams before Rabasa.
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Damn good pass rusher but his (Williams) frame just scares the hell outta people
Plus folks fall in love with computer numbers and avoid context often times (USC’s recent WR busts come to mind)
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 22, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably something like this...
1- Ray Drew
2 Newberry Lynch
3
4- Rasco
5- Rabasa
6 -Williams
Possibilities….
1-Williams-if they want him
2-Newberry-depends on who you listen to
3-Drew-FSU/Georiga
4-Rabasa
5-Lynch-looks like ND
6-Rasco-LSU
by Noletorious on Jul 22, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
It would be nice to get some early commits for DE
This position has me the most nervous, very thin. Early playing time has to look good.
lots of people would be happy without williams
Im one of them…
You mean NCST that produced 3 first round NFL draft choices (incl. #1 overall)
from the same D line in 2006? Two first round DEs? That line? Sign him up then! ;)
Let’s be careful with out insults since they’ve done tons better with DL recruits in recent years than we have (especially DEs).
by Dark Stranger on Jul 22, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
FSU will continue to monitor Williams, I am sure
If he wanted FSU to take Baxter and Akins to take his commitment, well, you do not take other kids to get Ricardo Williams
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Anyone see this on Brissett?
"It don’t matter if someone commit there or not. I’m not scared of competition, so I’ll get in there and win a spot."
Brissett was not sure of what schools that have offered planned to take two quarterbacks other than Florida State.
"They say they still want me even though they got the other kid that committed," said Brissett on the Seminoles.
http://www.soflafootball.com/feature/brissett-to-narrow-list-soon
Sounds like we’re still in play and near the top of his list.
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Seen that as well
But he still wants to play basketball apparently. At least for his freshmen year. Wonder how Jimbo would feel about that
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 21, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Brissett means
“FSU could take 2 QBs this time and if they do decide to take 2, I would be the second guy”
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 21, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
How many underclass football players played on the b-ball team?
I remember Andre Cooper in 93-94, and didn’t Beau Reliford consider for a short time last year? Just wondering if Jimbo is against Frosh giving b-ball a shot, or if you have to commit to the strength-mental-nutrition-playbook program from Day 1.
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by The Ryno and I Know on Jul 22, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Doubt many do it
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 22, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Brad Johnson, Cholly.
nm
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by PeachTreeNole on Jul 22, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it's that way at all.
I think Jimbo really likes him, and would take him if he wanted to commit. I think that the basketball thing is a deterrent, as well as playing time.
I think we’re waiting on him more than he’s waiting on us.
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by Randall W. Spetman on Jul 23, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
How good is Brissett?
I mean, I could go look at his star rating, but that wouldn’t tell me too much.
I think he's a good looking QB prospect.
At least from film. Good arm. Good mobility. Good size.
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Hmmmm
And people didn’t believe me when I said ALL 3 Dwyer players were leaning towards us….
They want to do the packaged deal and if it falls apart it is cuz O’Leary goes somewhere the others can’t
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by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 23, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Smoke screen...
That may be where he ends up but I’ll go with what he tells his other 2 team mates
Chris Volstad Nuff Said
I said from the get that Maggit was UF (I've heard a silent)
The other two were fair game
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 23, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, I certainly hope you are right on this
But it’s good to know you’re not too far away from these kids. If we got all three I’d be ecstatic. It’d be a really good coup after the Elam fiasco last year
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 23, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure FSU would take Brissett right now
and Maggitt is leaning to the Gators and has been leaning there forever.
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I agree from the FSU standpoint
I’m sure they haven’t told Brissett or any of them that they don’t want their commits right now but eventually it will be look elsewhere. I’m not saying we’re a lock for any of them, but it seems to me they want to play together for the most part. Right now FSU seems to be the best fit for all 3, if they wanted to stick together, do I think it happens? No.
Chris Volstad Nuff Said
I have learned most of the kids who say they want to stick together are full of it
They say it because it sounds good, because they are friends, and because to say otherwise would imply that they don’t like each other or a lack of chemistry.
Friendly wager on where Curt goes?
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I already believe he is a full Gator
If some other college were to get both O’Leary and Brissett, then I really think Maggit may think about it.
I also believe O’Leary will end up at UM. Then again he did love his unofficial up here. My buddy was with him the whole time on the unofficial.
Brissett is just screwing himself by saying he wants to play both basketball and football. Some coach will eventually take the flier on him but it may end up being like DVO again.
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Doesn't Maggitt have size/frame concerns?
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I think he can be decent sized - but not huge
I see him as a Jermaine Cunningham type – similar sized coming out of HS and Cunningham I believe was about 260 when he left UF.
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"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Some in the know say Williams has a better DE frame than Maggitt.
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I know a couple players that are attending the Jimbo Fisher camp this week.
Problem is: Contact with them, and the people around them is hit or miss because of my schedule, but I will be sure to try and get as much info as I can from them, when I can.
Thanks 504
I know our crew is mad busy this week
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 22, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Please keep us updated on the players at camp this week.
Who is looking the best? Any of our top targets leaning toward a verbal?
I can try to find out who's looking the best.
I don’t know about the targets leaning towards a verbal part though, unless the player is going around broadcasting it to other players at the camp.
Per tharinger
Keelin Smith killed it at Bama camp this week
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 22, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions
No film.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=98696&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player%3frecruitId%3d98696
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Even though the link looks like hell, it still works for me.
Just sayin’.
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Thanks for the link. Tough to really see what's happening in the film so I won't get in to any eval.
Just curious, how is everyone evaluating Rasco if there is no film on him? Some people may have seen him in person but I doubt the large majority has.
Robensen Therezie to visit FSU
We are still in his top five presently (Miami isn’t), although he’ll probably end up in the SEC due to the fact Bama, Auburn, Tennessee, and UF round out his list. Good for him though
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 22, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions
If they will take him
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Yes if they have higher targets
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Hearing that FSU leads for Terry Bell
Big DT unranked by ESPNU & Rivals; #28 Scout.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
We actually think he is as good if not better than the two we have.
He is #1 on the uncommitted board.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 22, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Want him bad.
Baaaaad. Love this guy
I heart Cardullo...in the same way I heart the World Cup, Fat Girls, and Okra.
by Randall W. Spetman on Jul 23, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Is the Bell love based on film clips, general reputation, or some 1st hand TN accounts?
(i.e., have any of the local recruitign gurus seen this kid do work first hand, hence the appreciation for his ability?)
I know he has film out there somewhere that many on here have seen and liked.
Cool. Just found some pics of him at the Fisher Camp in June while looking for his film. Found his film from PrepsReport also.
Maybe a McAllister type, where he could be an excellent SDE but we want him to play inside. Jmo, but I’d prefer him over Newberry at SDE.
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Trick he is 6'5" 297 as of last week. Will play at 310 probably.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 23, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He just doesn't look near that big though.
If that’s his weight, he holds it very well. This is from a month ago.
Aren’t most saying Newberry will play in the high 200’s? Some analysts have even said he could play OL, where he’d likely need to be 300+. So, if the two guys are roughly the same size, I like Bell’s athleticism more. That’s all.
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Looks like a Mario Williams type of frame.
*NOT BY ANY MEANS SAYING HE WILL BE A #1 OVERALL PICK.
Just saying he’s less squatty than your typical 300 lber. Demonte comparison is probably apt.
Sounds like a specimen. Why isn't he more highly regarded nationally?
What are his other combine-type numbers?Is he quick (shuttle), fast (40), explosive (vert)?
Plays for a new school
and Rivals has done an awful job in Florida Evals this year. Simply awful. They went cheap and have terrible evaluators.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 23, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Tangent.....What Florida evaluations by Rivals stand out to you the most?
by Caveman Mafia on Jul 24, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It's really just a complete mess.
Just awful. They have given up the ghost. Some of their “top kids” have an offer sheet that includes none of the big 3 and no major SEC schools.
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Philip Ely is a 6’0" 4* qb from plant who is very average. No big3 offers. He has LSU. Kid is a mid-3* unless he grows a bunch.
Andrew Buie… 4* back lolol no offers from Florida schools, best offer is Auburn.
Tre Mason… 4* RB. Again. LOL. No Florida offers. Best offer is ole miss.
Zach Debell.. offensive tackle… UF & FSU will be taking 9 OL and Miami wants to take 1 or 2. None have offered this kid. Rivals gives him 4*s.
Gerrod Holiman… 4* DB… NO in-state offers despite UF, Miami, and FSU wanting to take 13 DBs combined. Best offer is ole miss.
Andrew Johnson 4* DB… same deal. attends lots of camps, nobody in Florida is impressed, tennessee and ole miss offer. No UF/FSU/Miami/Bama/UGA, etc.
Chevelle Buie… 4* RB… nobody in florida wanted the kid and he is going to RUTGERS. Kid listed a few offers but we’ve been told that he might not have been totally forthcoming telling rivals his offers.
Basically, because their staff in florida was awful, they used bad evauators who could watch highlight tapes (which RBs have impressive ones), they ended up ranking a ton of RBs and a few camp all-stars who aren’t very good.
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From the opposite end
having Tim Jernigan ranked as #12 in state and #45 overall seems really low (don’t have as big a problem with him as the #3 DT).
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"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Of course he also quit his team twice last year
and many have questions about his size. Narrow kid. I’d take him no doubt, but I don’t think he is like a top 10 national player. Probably top 30 instead of top 35.
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fair enough
I guess I’ve got a higher opinion of him that you (I see top 20, maybe top 10).
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I agree. But I mean do you see scout or ESPN making like big big reaches on 7 of their top 50 florida prospects?
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Here's ESPN's top 50 for florida
Keep in mind there are some kids still to be evaluated like Bell and Ruben Carter
James Wilder II
Tony Steward
Jeff Driskel
Karlos Williams
Nick O’Leary
Hasean Clinton-Dix
Tim Jernigan
Bobby Hart
Ja’Juan Story
Gerrod Holliman
Tacoi Sumler
Keelin Smith
Aaron Lynch
Sammy Watkins
Curt Maggitt
Nick Waisome
A.C. Leonard
Wayne Lyons
Ryan Shazier
De’Ante Saunders
Giorgio Newberry
Anthony Chickillo
Kevin Grooms
Mike Bellamy
Jabari Gorman
Marcus Jackson
Brandon Fulse
Anthony Rabasa
Jerrard Randall
Eli Rogers
Nile Lawrence-Stample
Demetrius Hart
Rashad Greene
Marlin Lane
Jordan Prestwood
Lonnie Gosha
Teddy Bridgewater
Dallas Crawford
Kelvin Benjamin
Cortez Davis
Robenson Therezie
Javorius Allen
Jeremy Cash
Jeff Heuerman
Lamarcus Brutus
Kent Turene
Ramik Wilson
Javares McRoy
Mike Blakely
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without looking it up
I’d say a max of 2-3 guys on that list wouldn’t have a big 3 offer. It’s possible that every player on there does. And the ones I’m thinking MAY not have offers are towards the bottom of the list.
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And the Wilson kid will blow up soon
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Yes but Bell is already over the weight at which Newberry will eventually play
He’s what, 35lbs bigger than Giorgio right now?
The other pics show it better Trick
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 23, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that pic gave the best overall "view" of Bell.
Only reason I chose it. He doesn’t look 300 pounds. Maybe he is, but like I said, if he is he holds it very well.
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"Correct, Sir Trick."
Didn't know Bell was that muscular
At 6-5 with his musculature 290+ isn’t a stretch. Very dense and compact looking and spread across a long frame
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 23, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
A Little off subject
But does anyone have any info on 2012 db Travis Blanks from NFC? I hear he has been making noise at a lot of camps lately.
So are we looking at him as a wr or db?
by nolesandniners on Jul 22, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
DB (Probably Corner)
He’s 6-1 and already runs a 4.45 going into his jr. year. Kids a beast
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 22, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we the favorite to land him
Bama and UGA just offered
by nolesandniners on Jul 22, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Way too early to worry about that. Only thing you can ask for at this point is for your team to be in it, which FSU is
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 22, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Here some camp interviews with him
Seems like a pretty likable kid
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 22, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Kid is an absolute stud who likes FSU
Not a lock but FSU stands a very good chance. SWFLNole is very familiar.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 22, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like the Fisher camps have been really successful
Hope the profile of the camps only increase from here on
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 22, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Camp notes from GerryHamilton
Impressed with the feet, agility & arm strength of 2012 QB Tyler Cameron (Jupiter) at FSU camp today.
2012 WR Brandon Brooks (Jacksonville/First Coast) is looking good at FSU camp. Route runner with quickness.
DE Quintez Williams (Atlanta/Westlake) is another good looking 2012 prospect at FSU camp today. 6-5,235
2012 WR Chris Black (Jacksonville/First Coast) was very impressive this AM. Can really stick his foot in the ground & separate.
This Brandon Brooks kid is interesting. Real interesting.
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Brooks caught 76 passes for Episcopal High in Jacksonville as a sophomore before heading to First Coast. The coaches there are high on his potential athletically and also love his high character.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 23, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
2 videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eWPh2ob1Rw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnhaMg14K8k&feature=related
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 23, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Black could be one of the top prospects at his position in the country during the 2012 recruiting cycle. Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, Clemson and South Carolina are among the early verbal offers for Black. The Sunshine State has several talented prospects at this position for 2012
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 23, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
did he transfer from a different school?
in those highlights, it looks like a different school from First Coast
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 23, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Episcopal
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 23, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Brooks' highlight vid is impressive
Does he have a fav school?
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 23, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahhhhh Tyler Cameron
He started most games as a Freshman on our varsity team and we play in 6A.
I’m just saying if he does get a UF offer that is where he will end up.
Some certain coach (Lane Kiffin) already visited him last year. Kiffin was there looking at a WR that went D2 and just happened to run into Tyler. Even though I was in the room where they met ran into each other.
Chris Volstad Nuff Said
Wait do you still play? You'll be the official Tyler Cameron liason.
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Naa. I just graduated this past year.
I’ve been in his ear some though about Jimbo’s offense compared to Urban’s offense.
Another thing though is that he is not like a 3.5 GPA student or anything.
Pretty much everything about him will remind you of Tebow (big I would say 6’4 205 as a Sophomore, #15, lefty) except the arm action Cameron’s a lot better outa HS.
Jupiter has run the Wing-T offense every year since this HC has been here which is like 22. And just this past year(after we lost like our first 4 games) he went more into the Spread-Option just to fit/showcase more of Cameron’s talent.
As a side note 2 years ago Xavier Lee would come workout at our HS in the Spring as a TE when he was getting ready for a Ravens tryout I believe.
Chris Volstad Nuff Said
Seminole Showtime seems like a better idea
Wasn’t Seminole Showtime when they’d bring back past players like Derrick Brooks? It definitely seemed like a solid selling point.
Other than the two camps, in what way is the Jimbo camp better than Showtime?
I know very little about these camps and Im really curious…
by Caveman Mafia on Jul 24, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s all work, and no play. Showtimes are for impressing specific targets; camps are for finding talent.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
To add to that
Showtime was for only 1 night. With the new camps the coaches have more time (both total and individual) with each player so they can evaluate and recruit each player better.
by nolesblogger on Jul 24, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
We got every major prospect we wanted to come
And we didn’t play 2nd fiddle to UF. We played a different instrument. And the kids got to spend time in the tally nightlife
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Yeah
Heard FNL was sort of a dud. At least in comparison to last year
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 24, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Gave the top targets lots of dates to get to Tallahassee
Tallahassee is so far from anywhere that we are at a disadvantage to get them here for a one-night event. Plus, I agree that I like not copying Florida. We are doing our own thing.
thanks again fellas....I ask a lot of questions and you guys always deliver
by Caveman Mafia on Jul 24, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We did get a bunch of solid prospects at this camp
However I still believe the star-studded factor of showtime would have been better. Hopefully I’m wrong. Derrick Brooks’s presence probably helped with Luc’s commitment. A hypothetical Ernie Sims and Steward meet up possibly could have been duplicated. Oh well.
What stars do we have in the NFL now that these kids know?
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 24, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd add Timmons
maybe Sims and maybe Cromartie.
I’d consider Leon Washington a touch below star b/c not used as a starter.
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Justin Hopkins saying we may lead for Steward again
Hopkins_Justin
Heavy smoke that FSU is back on top for top FL LB Tony Steward.
Florida State Seminoles
Love to see that be the case.
Can’t lose this guy to those morons.
by Dark Stranger on Jul 23, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
For a second I thought
“why the heck is the team’s kicker commenting on prospects?”
Then I thought twice and remembered that that’s DUSTIN.
yes per twitter
Just having fun. Nobody thinks he is a Nole
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If ever there was a "lock," it would be Wilder -> UF.
But if there is any role on respective teams where FSU might be a better option than UF, this might be it. Better coaching in Gran, at least equivalent line play, and a better scheme to highlight his abilities at RB…. at least in terms of demonstrated capacities — UF may be promising him they are going to change things radically post-Tebow, but Meyer hasn’t ever run a pro style ground attack as a head coach, that I am aware of.
So maybe Eddie can convince him to make a better choice.
I read somewhere, or might have heard him say, things would go back to how they were when Leak was under center.
Not sure how or if that scheme would highlight a runningback’s potential or not.
Also Ciatrick Fason
Went to Fletcher HS, played a year with the Vikings, bounced around to practice squads
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by The Ryno and I Know on Jul 25, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember Tebow getting almost all the carries around the goal line that year.
And everybody going nuts when he completed a 2 yard pass.
by nolesblogger on Jul 24, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I was literally 30 yards away in the stands from the very first jump pass,,,
I have never, EVER been more happy to be a Seminole. From the reaction of the idiots around me you’d have thought Tebow reinvented the freaking forward pass or something. Unbelievable.
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I'm just glad he got it out
thought he was gonna get called for traveling for a second there.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
JWJ
has visited FSU a minimum of 3 times before August…. Not saying that he won’t be a Gator, but no one can deny that he’s curious about us.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
If he makes it, he will be really really late
Looks like Fisher got him in Tally long enough to miss FNL
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Since I don't follow recruiting as much as you guys, and since I don't have the time to read through all these comments, I came across this and thought I would post. If any of the mod's thinks it is a waste of space, please delete.
West Orange RT Ashanti McPhee hoping to make recruiting impact
Ashanti McPhee epitomizes what a prototypical offensive lineman has evolved into.
At 6-foot-3 and 306 pounds, the West Orange right tackle combines raw athleticism and nimble feet with optimal size, making him the perfect fit for a team that primarily runs a spread offense.
“I’m a real good pass blocker,” McPhee said. “I’ve got quick feet and real long arms.”
n what has become a pass-first sport, McPhee is aware of how his combination of size and grace benefits him.
“It helps a lot,” he said. “It makes it easier to stop fast pass-rushers.”
The aforementioned traits have made McPhee one of the more gifted offensive linemen in the area. He ranks No. 7 on the Sentinel’s list of 2011 Central Florida Top 10 offensive linemen.
McPhee has yet to receive an official college scholarship offer, which could be because he is still waiting to be cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse. He has heard from a number of schools, however.
“I’ve talked to Ohio, Tennessee State, Army, Massachusetts, FIU and FAU,” McPhee said. “The main thing I’m looking for is academics, but the second is location. I love Florida weather.”
There is one in-state school that stands out to McPhee and that is Florida State. He is leaving Wednesday for a four-day camp at FSU.
“Oh yeah, I’m ready,” he said. “I’ve been working real hard all summer to get ready for this.”
The Seminoles have already shown some interest in local linemen. DeLand OL Trey Pettis, No. 1 on the Sentinel’s Central Florida Top 10 list, has verbally committed to FSU, while Boone’s Max Lang (No. 2) and Evans’ Darrell Williams (No. 3) both have offers from the ’Noles.
“I wouldn’t believe it,” McPhee said when he was asked how he would react if FSU offered him a scholarship. “It would be a dream come true.”
West Orange coach Chip Petree, however, won’t share McPhee’s sense of surprise if his star lineman received an offer from FSU.
“It wouldn’t shock me,” said Petree, who then stopped and said he didn’t want to jinx McPhee. “I think they’ll like what they see.”
A varsity player since he was a freshman, McPhee has taken his lumps during his time at West Orange. Last season, the Warriors started off 3-0 before dropping six of their final seven games. The ups and downs are to be expected, but if McPhee has his say, West Orange will not lose focus during his senior season.
“It was a big problem in the past, but we’ve worked on leadership and chemistry,” McPhee said. “The seniors are working on team chemistry and being leaders. I try to do a little of leading by example and leading vocally.”
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Let's see what he has
One concern I have is that he has played varsity all 4 years but has no hype
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spill it. just the cane guy saying he's not yet admitted?
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Which some would say makes it 100% opposite
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Wonder how Ricardo and Rashad Greene did at FNL
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 24, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions
Ricardo worked out at linebacker and did well (twitter)
Mike Farrell rivalsmike
Ricardo williams impressing at linebacker, big man can move
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 24, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Even if we whiff on a few guys we think/hope we land?
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Good point
But for whatever reason I think Rabasa ends up at UM. Dubose is a greasefire academically and he probably won’t make it in UM and Rabasa is their next best option at WDE. I won’t mention Drew and Rasco is dicey at best based on local pressure to stay in-state (Now if he went to John Curtis HS instead?). TN posters generally don’t like Williams but it seems like if we can’t land Rasco…………….
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 24, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah. We're just letting him simmer.
I think we end up taking him as a DE/LB tweener.
by Dark Stranger on Jul 24, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 24, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Lynch's decision would affect the Williams situation
What I believe is that we either get Lynch or Newberry. Probably not both since they play essentially the same position (SDE) and either could conceivably flip over to OT
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 24, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Wilder
Good thing Newberry didn’t bother to show up either
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
Do we lead for Newberry?
I have heard this lately
by nolesandniners on Jul 24, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
some believe so
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A Gate just said that...
He heard from a “reliable” source that Wilder is a Nole. He skipped FNL & he does not want to play in the spread. Take it with a whole bottle of salt since the source is a Gate. Probably total bs but has a nice ring to it. :)
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From who?
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 24, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
JetSkiGator did not name a source. He just said it was a reliable source.
He isn’t usually the one to start bs threads like that is the only reason I brought it up. I don’t believe it either but I’m hoping it has legs.
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Someone was trolling him. That stuff from the rivals mainboard is typically trash.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 24, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
From?
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 24, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
where have you heard that?
Last time i heard, things were looking better for us.
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 24, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
From Steve Chase's Public Facebook Album
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Damn T-Buck can still fly
Not bad for around 40 years old.
T-Buck is awesome
I’m really glad he’s still coaching in Tally.
lol at Jacobi & Coach Vic picture
thanks for the pics, really cool
by Caveman Mafia on Jul 24, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If you like them that much, get in touch with Steve.
He does an awesome job with all Nole Sports, and you can buy pictures as well. I’m sure he’d appreciate the kind words and a little bizness if you can spare it.
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No doubt. Chase does great work. Best in the biz.
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I think you forgot "no homo". :)
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That second picture of Nile you can see Jimbo in the background really eying him.
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This one is nuts
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 24, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 24, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Matulis commits to SoCarolina
Interesting. They do need linemen pretty bad. Curious to see if he sticks.
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Hard to believe.
Pretty good sources were saying he wasn’t leaving the state. Guess he changed his mind.
43 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Early PT is like P#$$%
It’s hard to pass up!
by Noletorious on Jul 24, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Pizza?
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by CornNole on Jul 24, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't think that would need the "special characters"
:)
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Bobby Hart mentioned he really liked Matulis
Maybe he can still sway him.
It isn't for the 2011 class, it's for 2012
so put as much stock into it as you care to
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
PJ Williams?
Never heard of him. Any early scouting reports?
Florida State Seminoles
by basbalstr101 on Jul 24, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i was really hoping it was Travis Blanks
but it’s cool! Any highlight vids?
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 24, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would Travis Blanks commit this early?
He just landed offers from UGA and Bama, kids stock is soaring. I think he’ll stay home but it would be best for him to stay open until next recruiting season so he can have a lot of options.
I am of the opinion that it’s way too early for any 2012 kid to commit, but I’m still very happy to hear about PJ.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
idk, wasn't blanks supposed to come back Sunday
to talk to coach stoops?
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He's from NFC (North Florida Christian)
isn’t he? That’s in Tally. Wouldn’t be surprised if he talks to the coaches/players a bunch.
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by basbalstr101 on Jul 24, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
DB PJ Williams
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
Safety
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry guys, I forgot to finish the class off
This class is really shaping up to be interesting. There are a lot of high-talent players out there, but FSU doesn’t lead clearly for any of them now that Hart is committed. Bolded who I think we close with:
QB Jake Coker
RB Eric Beverly
RB Devonta Freeman
WR Rashad Greene
WR Andre Davis
TE Nick O’Leary
OL Trey Pettis
OL Sterling Lovelady
OL Bobby Hart
OL Damien Williams
DE Giorgio Newberry
DE Ray Drew (yep)
DE Anthony Rabasa
DT Nile Lawrence
DT Derrick Mitchell
LB Terrence Smith
LB Tony Steward
DB Tyler Hunter
DB Lamarcus Brutus
DB Keelin Smith
DB Karlos Williams
DB Kevin Grooms
I am not feeling good about Terry Bell based on what one of the TN guys has recently mentioned, so I’m leaving him off for now. REALLY want him in the class but not feeling optimistic enough to put him on right now.
Optimism may be getting the best of me here, but I’ll put O’Leary, Drew and Steward on there for now. Gonna be a dogfight til the end for all three, but a strong season by FSU could seal it.
Davis is a flyer. Not sure who FSU would take as a second WR, could be someone off the radar right now.
I hope we flip Matulis back but SC is clearly on top for now. That may change as the season progresses but SC’s allure of early PT is going to be tough to beat. If FSU gives Damien Williams the green light to commit, he’ll do it immediately. Could also just as easily be an OL we haven’t heard of yet.
Feel good about Grooms and Newberry. Rabasa shouldn’t be a hard battle to win either.
This is a class prediction of 22, being safe here. If things clearly change with the numbers, I’ll add guys like Brissett and maybe another OL.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
Who is Damien Williams?
I’ll guess Darrell williams? No way FSU takes only 4 OL if one is Darrell Williams.
Also do not think FSU would go 2 WR and 4 OL.
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Damien Williams is a hybrid of Damien Jacobs and Darrell Williams, was thinking about both
Darrell Williams is who I meant.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Would be awesome of Darrell had Damien's size
:)
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That's gotta be a top 5 class
IMO not likely that we sign Grooms, Steward, Newberry, Drew and Rabasa. I’d do backflips if that’s how things looked on NSD.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
I'd say top 10
not enough players to be top 5 IMO.
Still outstanding quality.
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A top ten class while taking 10 or more linemen would make me very happy
Addressing needs while still obtaining quality prospects is what that would represent
by westcoastnolefan on Jul 24, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
well said.
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shoot meant to say gets a rec.
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When you say "rec"
that means you “recommend” his post. You should follow it up by clicking actions, then Rec.
I’m sure you know that as you’re not a noob, but I figured I would post it for all the noobs ;-)
by freshcollegeboy on Jul 24, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I did rec his post
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You hearing bad things about Terry Bell?
i thought we were strongly in the lead after the camp?
by fsufrenzy911 on Jul 24, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Something someone here on TN said about Bell?
As in, on this thread? I thought we were feeling good about him.
Not on this board
Not going to go into it but suffice to say he isn’t close to being a lock to FSU.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he announced 2 leaders within the past week and neither was FSU.
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Pretty sure on Rivals
He just listed FSU as the favorite. Followed closely by either Ole Miss or Miss St (can’t remember which one)
But shortly before that I heard he listed a top 2 and we weren't in it.
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Going to offer a piece of advice to you
Do not rely on Rivals right now. They are going through a lot of staff turnover and the new staff isn’t close to the guys they’re losing.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt
Just passing the info along. Quite aware of the rivals rankings downturn. Even more so with Bud’s posts above.
It's a JOKE. Rivals ranked 49 4* or better players in the state and 7 (so 1/7th of them don't have a big-3 offer)
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It was FSU #1 and Ole Miss a close #2
All of his other schools are in the SEC. That is probably going to be a factor. We’ve been working him for a while though. In the end I believe he ends up here as our last DT for this class.
Not true.
Bell was quoted as saying that FSU was #1 and that Ole Miss was a “solid backup plan”.
by Dark Stranger on Jul 24, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh. There's other stuff going on there too.
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by Bud Elliott on Jul 24, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
JMO, but if we don't sign DT Terry Bell
I still think we end up with a 3rd DT – I’d say Lonnie Gosha, but could be Akins.
I know I’ve read a lot about Gosha looking at the SEC, but I remember distance being a factor when he originally committed to us in the spring. I’m pretty sure Bama doesn’t have room for him even though they are looking like they will take ~ 8 DL. Miles Fomby at ThaRinger (when I asked him about Gosha albeit a few weeks ago) felt that Bama had many options that they looked stronger for and had even more ahead of Gosha (not in their top 10 at DL) as they had 8 guys all but wrapped up at that time. Things may have changed but I don’t think Bama’s where Gosha ends up. I’ve heard a bit about Tenn. and Gosha, but I haven’t followed there recruitment of him that closely.
I thought we were looking really good for Bell (until reading this thread) so I’d not followed Gosha’s recruitment that much the last couple of months, but may start up again now.
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I think Bell is up in the air with EVERYONE right now.
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Newberry
Are we in the lead for him or is that wishful thinking?
It isn't wishful thinking at all
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Cortez Davis
Does anyone think we have a chance to flip him back or is he a done deal? 6"4 200 lb cb still would to have him.
He's gone.
But I’m not worried about our DB recruiting. Got Reid, some good ones in the 2010 class, and some good guys this year. 2012 sounds promising too.
According to Shurbs, FSU has targeted its next kicker
Jc Shurburtt: RT @j_wells247: RT @CoachBanksSLHS: Our kicker 2012 roberto aguyo just received his first verbal offer from Florida State. JUICE
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
So that'd be 2 offers out to 2012 kickers right?
DA-2 said this on June 11th:
2012 K Marshall Morgan of Archbishop McCarthy is on campus.
Claims a verbal offer from Florida State. So far has enjoyed his visit.
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Forgot about Morgan
Youre right trick
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by NoleThruandThru on Jul 24, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear it's good to get on kickers early.
They’re peculiar fellows.
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Yea, what does that mean.
He says that on several “twitters”.
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I once worked at a place that the manager
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I'm going to leave this open for a little bit longer, but...
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2010/7/24/1586431/2011-recruiting-discussion-thread-6
is now open.
43 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
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