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- OL Bobby Hart commits to Florida State. 07.16.10.
- 2012 DB PJ Williams commits to Florida State. 07.24.10.
- Removed DE Ricardo Williams, OL Mike Matulis, DT Chavis Atkins, DB Cortez Davis. 08.12.10.
FAQ:
1. Are the five-star Texas RB considering FSU?
Somewhat, but FSU seems to be outside looking in. We know FSU is in their top four both, but we don't buy the hype. Malcom Brown will most likely go to Texas, and Aaron Green will likely join his cousin at Nebraska. New article suggests that both still have FSU in their top four. Credit Coach Eliot for his Texas connections getting FSU's foot in the door. If they decide to officially visit, we will add them to the board.
2. Will FSU take 2 WRs now instead of just Rashad Greene?
This is tricky. FSU is loaded at wide receiver and doesn't need to take another. FSU could have as many as 13 wide receivers in 2011. That's more than optimal and is not a good use of finite resources (85scholarships). However, this answer likely depends on the future of Jarmon Fortson (could go pro early), Taiwan Easterling (baseball, but when?), and Cam Wade (don't see many non-contributing 5th-year seniors on the roster). The coaches will be in the best position to determine this, and we are not going to second guess their move here.
08.11.10 update: Still not sure. The recent release of Jarmon Fortson makes the chances of a second WR coming more likely. Andre Davis, WR from Jefferson High School, has been quoted as saying that FSU is open to a second WR. Only time will tell.
3. What's up w/ Tony Steward?
Steward camped at Clemson over the weekend. Clemson is in desperate need of linebackers because its current crop lacks both quality and numbers. Plus, Steward's idol is Ernie Sims, who was coached by Clemson LB coach Kevin Steele. Steward named Clemson his leader following the camp. Despite this, we are confident in FSU's position with him. Steward is very respectful and has said good things about everyone. Clemson will be an underdog in 5-7 games this season and it would be hard to see them land the top LB prospect in the nation from out of state while finishing with 5 or 6 losses. While we are mindful that Clemson can promise him an immediate starting job playing for Ernie Sims' former coach while FSU cannot (FSU is loaded with linebacker talent), we think FSU is in good position at the present time and that FSU's position will only improve from here. It will really depend on whether the kid prefers immediate playing time or the better program.
08.01.10 update. Tony Steward visited FSU over the weekend. FSU is now back in the lead with Clemson. Some say FSU, some say Clemson. Tony Steward claims he's going to wait till NSD, but most believe it'll be sooner than that. Many believe that he hates the recruiting process.
4. What's up with James Wilder, Jr.?
James, five-star of Plant High School, is down to Florida and Florida State. Most believe that Wilder's best position in college in linebacker. However, James would like to play running back in college. For most of his recruitment (kind of talent that gets recruited heavy even as a HS freshman), he's been a Gator lean. However, Florida State came right up on the Gators back in July. James plans to announce on television with four-star Nick Waisome, Wednesday, August 18th his school of choice.
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Was anyone able to listen to the big county prep radio show?
Curious what they had to say about Wilder
I couldnt find or listen to the show.
But here is a video done by them, the 28th of July.
http://bigcountypreps.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=5857.msg72309#msg72309
Unfortunately, Wilder doesn’t sound as stalwart as he is made out to be when they start talking about his future position. About 4:20…
Other than that, its definitely more of a Highschool Prep video than a college recruiting video..
I still think he choses RB and commits to FSU
thats my thinking based on what people are saying and my hopes
nobody on here is saying we expect wilder
I absolutely do not think he is a Nole. Have I allowed myself to get a bit carried away by the hype? Maybe slightly. But I don’t think anyone on this board expects him.
I am not saying people on this site
People around his program and closer to him are saying he is leaning FSU but that means nothing we just have to wait until he decides
The right attitude seems to be agnostic
We know he’s a great fit for our O and we have no elite RBs, but he’s been buddies with Urban for years. In his last BCP interview, he suggested that he hasn’t completely decided which side of the ball he’ll play in D-1.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Robenson Therezie's offer
Committable?
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Aug 3, 2010 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 4, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the deal with Ja'Juan Story?
I know he is a UF commit, but the way I understood it was that if we wanted him, he was ours but we declined. With that said, is this the case and if so would he switch his commit if we came calling?
I think that was the case.
I don’t think that is still the case. Don’t see him leaving UF for us at this point.
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I think that ship has indeed sailed with Ja'juan
Thats one reason why we’re trying so hard to get Benjamin now. Obviously the staff has decided to go for another WR if it is indeed the right one.
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 3, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
IMHO
Not good at the present time (He’s UF silent). But then again Miami was his initial leader by far but they were outrecruited by UF and backed off. I think the longer KB holds off the better for us. And he won’t be making any (public) decisions soon and his HC is a nole ,for what thats worth. And I too am pissed at letting Story go to UF
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 4, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
JWJ
One of the more trusted gator posters on tharinger is saying that Wilder is now leaning toward FSU and apparently hasn’t talked to the UF coaches since his visit here.
LOL
I knew someone would pull the trigger and say somethin. I wasn’t gonna do it, let the floodgates open! Haha!
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 4, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
It's all good
I wasn’t sayin s*** and I was the one…………………………………..err never mind!
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 4, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't surprise me
that the Gator coaches cut-off JWJ after no-showing for FNL because of visiting FSU. I’ve heard that like some teams (e.g., Texas, Michigan, etc.) the Gators don’t accept getting snubbed well, don’t allow their commitments to take visits, etc.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Wilder not showing up at FNL wasn't really a big deal
He wasn’t expected to work out anyway. A few of their commits (public or silent) didn’t show up like Wilder,Saunders, Waisome, and Benjamin. Granted, our staff got an opportunity to make pitches to all of them
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 4, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Tony Steward:
“When it comes down to playing time, the situation isn’t even close. At Clemson, Steward would likely start as a true freshman, but at FSU, there’s no guarantees of playing time at all.
Of course, it would be shocking if Steward didn’t eventually crack the starting lineup based on his talent and potential, but this is a team that not only has a lot of good linebackers already on the team, but other recruits joining the squad as well.
In 2011, Nigel Bradham and Nigel Carr, two of the expected starers for next season, will be seniors, but behind them are Vince Williams, Jeff Luc, C.J. Mizell, and Christian Jones; who were all highly-rated recruits coming out of high school.
At Clemson, there are plenty of young names vying for playing time now that the school has lost two of their starters from last season, but there’s no comparing the level of talent to that at FSU. The Tigers don’t have any linebackers who rated nearly has high as Steward does”.
Who knew CJMizz would figure in the Tony Steward decision, and how did he sneak into school?
who wrote that and when?
Carr may be gone and Mizell never was…geez
What about this kid, 6'3'' 310 lbs. DT Jesse Williams?
Noticed he was offered by Bama and LSU.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/columns/story?id=5436284
O'Leary narrows his list to five
Final Five: FSU, UM, UNC, UGa, and Bama.
“Right now, I kind of like FSU, the surroundings, the best, but I don’t know yet,” O’Leary said.
Oh snap.
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man we need beau reliford to have a productive season, if he does then o’leary is a nole
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gonna come down to FSU and Miami with Bama as a darkhorse
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 4, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Just was with him tonight
I won’t mention anything he was wearing, but if you got free clothing from colleges you would wear it to
No fat chicks
I have no clue how to interpret this
but I think it’s meant to calm nerves.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Interpretation: O'Leary is going to be wearing the free clothes given to him by each school he visits
so don’t read into it when he wears FSU or another team’s gear.
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 5, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
O'Leary
Saw him at Gridiron Kings at Disney wearing a Gator hat. Walked by him the next day with my Nole hat on and pointed to the FSU on my hat when he walked past. Even practiced in the mirror the night before to make sure I was pointing to the correct area of the hat. He displayed no emotion.
LMAO. Sad thing is that I would do something stupid like that as well.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
I'm telling you
pay no attention to anything he wears…
I’ve seen alabama and miami this week already.
No fat chicks
I expect our O to be more T-END friendly with Cooley/Jimbo running the complete show.
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Chris Cooley of the Washington Redskins is on our staff?
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Obviously.
If hiring an NFL TE away from active competition to coach a college team doesn’t prove to O’Leary how bad we want him, nothing will.
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Makes sense now.
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Anyone know if Chris Finn is practicing with the team
Kicker and punter out of Plant that supposedly was a preferred walk on. I didn’t see his name on the roster but it made news here back in March. I’m not sure if walk ons are listed but just curious. With Sanderson, Finn and possibly Wilder, I’d like to see a FSU pipeline begin there. All the talent in Tampa will be going to Plant for years to come.
by TampaLawNole on Aug 6, 2010 11:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That's actually a pretty nice fit for him IMO
as long as Lester doesn’t get in his way… doh!
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 6, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You think that Lester the molester might be fuuuured huuuuur soon?
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What do you think of LSU QB Coach
They haven’t really developed a QB at LSU since Jimbo left. IMHO
FSU football is the new case study for the outliners phenomon
Yup. That's why I said that.
They take the nation’s top dual threat QB and make him a WR.
Even Ohio State wasn’t dumb enough to do that!
Just kidding Ghanki.
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Shepard is all WR
Rivals was wrong in ranking him as a QB, and any other school would’ve done the same as LSU and switched his position.
So you're telling me that the top dual threat QB in the country wouldn't help
with a good QB coach in one of the most defensively sound conferences in America?
Sorry…Don’t buy it really. I mean, if they had a stud QB in there already, I can see it, but you still need your best athlete to touch the ball as much as possible.
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Yes
He’s Pat White part deux. No passing ability. That’s why Texas (the school he was dying to go to) would only offer him as an athlete.
Sorry man. Still don't buy that.
I watched his film. “No passing ability” is not accurate, in my opinion.
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Say hello to Kelvin Benjamin
Now that Fortson is gone..
This is only a guess, no inside info or anything..
No fat chicks
Uhhh
That would still be a difficult pull from UF, and I have seen different folks post about his grades (I honestly don’t know his qual status, it could be BS from jealous rivals)
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 8, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
FSU was recruiting for a second WR well before today
and the Jarmon thing today was probably anticipated in advance by the coaches.
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 8, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
I understand that and figured the coaches were recruiting a second receiver for a reason. That cat is finally out of the bag. I am wondering though if we will put the full court press on KB, considering his supposedly bad grades, or go after someone else?
Highly unlikely we would have taken a 2nd receiver
After this news, not sure. Fortson was going into his last year.
Then why tell recruits you're probably going to take two?
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I would take Benjamin though
SCALP'EM
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But it does increase the liklihood that one or more of the true freshmen WRs plays this year.
That means they have a 4 year life-span instead of 5.
This is another problem with Benjamin though
No guarantee he would have the academics to get in.
No fat chicks
Are his academic issues current or is it
His past problems that got people worried….
FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
Well the kid is going to turn 19 in the middle of his season
So there is a reason he is so old, and since he turns 19 in the middle of it he will miss the later part of the HS season.
And the Muck schools do have some academic problems. Not saying every player out of the Muck is a academic question, but everything with this one says yes he would be.
No fat chicks
Yeah, I read that he repeated
A couple of times when he was younger…….IDK maybe he turned it around, I understand the reason for staying away from him as for recruiting him….
FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
Reapeating early grades is common for South Florida athletes
Players are more mature and are more developed due to being older. VERY common in both football and wrestling.
by freshcollegeboy on Aug 10, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Rodney Smith can only help with KB now that Fortson is gone
If Smith has a big year, hopefully KB will see how a 6’6 receiver is used in a pro style offense and Hester will be pointing it out to him all year vs the spread at UF. Cooper was used a bit at UF but most of his stats came against poor competition last year including our defense.
by TampaLawNole on Aug 8, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
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Unlikely, but would be amazing
texas wont offer
go back and look at their past 3 cycles, i think texas signed 8 de’s
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Correct
Texas has one verbally committed this year (Cedric Reed)
Texas signed three in 2010 (#1 DE Jaskson Jeffcoat, Reggie Wilson, Greg Daniels)
Texas signed four in 2009 (Alex Okafor, Kyle Kriegel- listed as a DT now, Tevin Mims, Dominique Jones- listed as a TE now)
Texas signed zero in 2008
Texas signed two in 2007 (Sam Acho, Russell Carter- no longer on the team)
Texas signed two in 2006 (Eddie Jones, Brian Ellis- no longer on the team)
Dravannti Johnson was recruited in 2008 as a LB, but has since moved to DE.
They have two seniors defensive ends in Sam Acho and Eddie Jones both of whom will be gone at the end of the season, leaving Texas with seven defensive ends (counting the one from this year) in rotations for next year.
If you ask me, having seven upperclassmen in front of you is scary. He would be foolish to chose Texas if he wants to see the playing field.
Greg Dent
Does anybody think Greg Dent would have any effect on Benjamin coming to FSU? Maybe if Dent gets some PT as a freshmen, that would encourage Benjamin?
Since Jimbo told KB he could potentially start at FSU as a true FR
I don’t think he needs to see anything like that
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 8, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody know anything about Jamie Wilson (2012 kid)
He’s good, and Greg Dent will have a pretty big effect on him, i think. They’re good friends
by fsufrenzy911 on Aug 10, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna go on record here.
We get to talking about kids earlier and earlier every year.
In 2 years we’ll be discussing 8th graders as prospects
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Fred Taylor's kid....
think he was an 8th grader last year and tore up HS football….hehe
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by basbalstr101 on Aug 10, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
1B HS football
Kids say they have seen literally mentally challenged kids playing on that level
No fat chicks
Like Vine Young?
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by The Ryno and I Know on Aug 10, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nooooo
But Kelvin Taylor is big D1 material. Hopefully he isn’t burnt out by then. He had like 330 carries last year.
No fat chicks
Oooooh, so more like Frank Gore when you say "mentally challenged"
Gotcha
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by The Ryno and I Know on Aug 10, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if we'll try to pick up Elliot Porter
Since LSU stiffed him and we seemed to be a close second for his services?
Thanks
a friend told me he posted on his facebook he may decide soon
if thats true it has to be good for FSU just have to wait and see I guess
O sweet I thought he was lying to me
Maybe he will decide with his team mates and hopefully he says FSU
Tampa Tribune reporting JWJ to announce next week.
Sentiment seems to be that the sooner he announces the more likely that he’s a Nole.
Still would have to ward off other suitors (UF), but I like our chances a lot more with him verbally in the fold than not. And he’s supposed to be an EE (?) so only have to fight off the dogs until December instead of February.
Awesome.
I needed something to keep my mind busy for another week while waiting for the days to tick off to opening kickoff. By the time this resolves itself, we’ll be that much closer.
Eh, don't get your hopes up.
This is how I see it…
UF has been recruiting Wilder for a while now…since his sophomore year. He has already been on UF’s campus numerous times and it’s believed by a lot of people that UF has a lot of silents.
Oscar Meyer does not like recruits announcing before they take all their visits. I think the only school Wilder was considering outside of UF was FSU. Hence the reason for the late, three day visit. Georgia was not really ever an option, hence the canceled visit. He saw what FSU had to offer and is itching to announce his decision.
Of course this is all speculation on my part. I could be wrong, but I don’t really like our chances. He would be foolish, if you ask me, to go to UF. Coach Gran + Mama’s connection with Dawsey does leave me feeling a wee bit optimistic, but not enough to drink the kool-aid.
Drink with caution.
I'm just glad that he is announcing sooner than later,
and at lease we’ll know. I hate the suspense and waiting.
True
Rather it be over and done with so our staff can target new players. If he ends up in G&G I will be ecstatic. If not, oh well…just another blue chipper for the gators. They already have a gazillion of them, whats another?
by TCHOP561 on Aug 9, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
JWJ
It’s reasonable to believe that if you were a trully special RB and wanted to be valued more by your team, wouldn’t you rather go to a team with less talent,and more opportunities to pursue what, in your heart is your lifelong dream… To follow directly in your father’s footsteps in a role just like his with a coach with a solid record of accomplishment and a track record of putting RBs in the league and a family friend who could keep their eye on you making sure you would get a fair shake almost like daddy football? It’s fairly clear I know I would want my son to be a big fish in a small pond.
Yes, you would think, but unfortunately a lot of parents do not have their childrens's best of interest at heart.
Some of them are so blinded by prestige and the name of a school. I see so many parents pushing their kids to go a particular school because they think its best for them.
I dont know.
Its hard to pass up playing in the SEC/Playing for SEC championship/playing for NChampionship pretty much every year.
Jimbo can’t guarantee that. Few places can
And Urban obviously has an arrangement with the NFL to get...
Tebow drafted 1st round and then the slew of guys that went way-earlier-than-grade to the Pats.
Thanks. Don't misunderstand me...
At best I look at this as found money right now, I won’t be disappointed if it doesn’t go our way.
I was referring to the fact that the JWJ saga will probably engender plenty for me to read and speculate about until then, which burns another week of my attention in this final interminable wait until kickoff. If this holds my attention for a week, and I’m sure it will if an announcement of next week is true, either way it goes we will be one week closer to real football.
Gio Bernard tore his ACL.
Wow
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Sorry for him. (As someone who's had multiple ACL reconstructions, I can sympathize.)
But glad for Nov. 6 implications.
That really sucks for Gio
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 9, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Karlos is sick
thanks for the video…..I wonder if he is gonna earn a 5th star.
I would think with a solid Senior season he gets that 5th star.
Hard to argue with the athletic ability
Posted in reply to your post on Tharinger,
But his speed is reminiscent of Vanover. Long strides on a thick dude covering a lot of ground.
Can't wait to see Karlos back there with Reid & Joyner! Not to mention one of those other top safeties who win the other spot.
Best 2ndary in the nation?
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Wilder to announce August 18th on ESPN
Waisome too
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Not either of those guys but I am confident for FSU
too many reliable people saying FSU for Wilder right now for me to question them
50/50. Announcing at the same time isn't the best sign for FSU.
This picture is a pretty good sign for FSU.
I really hope there is no anger if he were to choose the Gators. This is nothing like Matt Elam. It’s not like the Pouncey twins or Ray Drew leaning UGA. Wilder had always been a Gator, and would be a great steal. If FSU loses out on him, he was never FSU’s to begin with.
25 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
I agree!
I’ll just be bummed b/c I think FSU is the best place for him if he truly wants to be a RB.
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
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I hope im wrong
He looks like he is saying me in this jersey,yea right .
The fact that theyre both announcing on Espn
at the same time spells G A T O R L O V E F E S T to me. bummer
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by stevegrizzle on Aug 10, 2010 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree...
I think TCHOP’s post above has the most rational explanation. UF didn’t want his committment until he finished visits, and he’s finished his visits. Ready to committ to UF and have it over with.
Or
The fact that he showed interest in FSU miffed Urban and Co. a bit. You know how they are when it comes to that stuff.
It wouldn’t at all surprise me if someone said something snarky to him and either James or dad didn’t care for it.
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Rec'd the grizz
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by The Ryno and I Know on Aug 10, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
One more thought
With the new ACC contract, if ESPN knew one was committing to UF and the other to FSU, wouldn’t that be an original way to start promoting this rivalry again?
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What would be the point of 2 kids who were expected to commit to a school, going on national television to commit to said school.
Where is the entertainment in that? I understand that ESPN is on UF’s jock like white on rice, but I would find it pretty hard to believe that they would air 2 “silent” commits, doing what most people think they will do. I could be off base here but I dont think so. I tend to side more with CornNole in the thought that either one or both could commit to FSU. Interesting tidbit on waisome:
Just paste the link in the body of the comment, not the header.
Don’t bother with the link button either.
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Maybe I'm wrong
But I assume ESPN doesn’t know where they plan to commit. So they are just guessing, and know that the hype around JWJ allows for some speculation regardless.
Does FSU really have a shot at Mike Bellamy?
Heard he’s wavering on Clemson commitment. And doesn’t he have grade problems also?
I've heard this too
In one forum, two recruiting guys from the same company said completely opposite things, so who knows.
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I know Wilder is good.
But Bellamy really freaking impresses me.
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You guys kill me
1.) There’s no way he can get bigger. Kid is stuck at 5’9 or 5’10 175-180 forever.
2.) Devonte Freeman is listed as smaller than him.
3.) I have a hard time believing the 13th best running back in the state can’t “run between the tackles”. Maybe not NOW, but he’s a damn high schooler.
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That'd be awesome.
but if Bellamy’s looking at playing immediately, i’d think that if we got Wilder we’d have no chance
by fsufrenzy911 on Aug 10, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm wondering if he's been softening for a while
And this Wilder thing coming out of nowhere might have prompted him to go more public with it than he might have wanted to. According to all reports, depth chart is an issue for him at Clemson, so a Wilder committment would seem to hurt chances with Bellamy. And a guy on TR said there’s no way Wilder and Bellamy would go to the same place.
However, a poster on some other random board I was reading made a good point. He said even if FSU got both Wilder AND Bellamy, the depth chart might still look better than Clemson’s. At first I scoffed.
But that might be true. I love the hell out of Thomson, Thomas and our guys, but in reality I can’t imagine they would scare 5-star recruits. Bellamy could look at it as one main guy to compete with (Wilder), and it’s a guy that would be coming in on equal footing as a freshman and who isn’t his level as an RB anyway.
I’m not saying I believe that there’s any realistic chance we get both.
WHOA!
Hell yeah
So you can run and tell that, homeboy.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Aug 10, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably.
But if he lets Gran, Jimbo, and Coley get a foot in the door, maybe his game turns into something more serious…?
Do we know something about Bellamy that suggests there’s no way he’s thinking about FSU?
If he committed to Clemson, then say he is
Not sure and wants to see what FSU has to offer……..Sounds like somebody(Gran, Jimbo, Coley) has already gotten to him……..I saw his Highlights and he is a beast…..Hopefully we can get him or JWJ….For some reason I like Bellamy….
FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
You have enough credibility that I can take that without further comment.
But would you care to elaborate as to why? (You know, in the spirit of educating the hapless masses…)
I went to his HS and grew up with guys who coach him, played under some of them, and hung out with the boosters and people around the program.
It is just an accumulation of things that people from my home town have said to me.
Tomahawknation.com
That's strong.
I guess my only hope is that you’re experiencing a lag between Bellamy’s sentiment and your buds hearing about it. Maybe in a day or two you’ll hear better news. Keep us informed!!!
Funny how we put percentages on prospect’s chances of committing, because in the end, its either 100 or 0.
I am not talking abotut the end result. Of course it's going to be either 100% or 0%. That is a given.
I am talking about chance, probability. If you want to get technical there is a 50% chance he ends up at FSU. Until the ink dries on the paper, I will say our chance is higher than 0%, regardless of what others think.
lets just say
odds of Wilder choosing FSU present day > odds of Wilder choosing FSU this time last year.
agreed
So you can run and tell that, homeboy.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Aug 10, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he'll stick with Clemson, but I could see UF sneaking him back
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 10, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Wilder and Bellamy: Gran's new Brown and Williams
If only dreams came true.
by nolesblogger on Aug 10, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
An 18 year old posts 3 little words on his facebook
And look at the carnage.
Man, I hate/love recruiting.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
True sentiment, but missed a perfect opportunity for strikethrough humor.
e.g.,
I hatelove recruiting.
(Or vice versa.)
Maybe you could have created more zany strikethrough chaos like we observed in the Fortson thread? I’ll expect better of you next time, RandyCornNole.
by arrdub on Aug 10, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love the carnage.
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Why is Shon Carson from SLC listing us and USCe as his top two...
and do we need yet another 5’9" running back?
I have no idea.
Allen Wallace wrote a story and said FSU “looked good” for him. We were all like “what the HELL are you talking about”?
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Did we recruit any of the kids from Valdosta high school?
Jay Rome/Mitchell?
No clue who Mitchell is but we did recruit Rome early on.
Just didn’t get much positive feedback. And I think we like O’Leary more.
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Bellamy was obviously starving for attention after all the talk about Wilder
Thats one kid that was never coming to FSU. Won’t be surprised if he pulls something similar later in the cycle. But worrying about what he ultimately does is waste of time IMO
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 11, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I would stick with SWFLNole for this one
if there was even a hint that Bellamy had FSU interest, he’d be texting me at all hours of the night.
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 11, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok, no problem
But he actually talked to a writer and said he wasn’t sure about his commit and was thinking about FSU. Plus what he posted on his Facebook page.
So it came from him, it wasn’t just some unsourced rumors. I’m sorry to imply that Bellamy himself might be a better source on Bellamy than SWFLNole, if I implied that.
That said, with the maturity of some of these kids, I wouldn’t be suprised if some posters/recruitniks knew the kid’s mind better than the kid themselves.
happens every year.
Some kid knows exactly where he wants to go and may even be committed, but he likes the spot light so he throws out some bones. McDaniel did it before he committed to FSU, Elam did it to FSU, happens all the time. Im pretty sure Debose did it before signing day.
Don’t get your hopes up till they autograph the line.
These kids blow plenty of smoke and will make a charade of their recruitment if they are allowed to
If most reasonable people still somewhat think Wilder is just creating drama for his announcement before he declares for UF then Bellamy would have to be even less of a likelyhood for FSU. He’s shunned the noles since the 10th when he received his initial verbal offer I believe. If anyone can pull him away from CU it’d be UF. The school where his cousin and one of his best friends play. I remember DJJ wore a Bama hoodie to school right before signing day
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 11, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Mario Edwards Jr (2012) a Nole lock?
6’4 250 DE (per Rivals)
I sure hope so. Kid sounds like a stud. He is only a junior in HS with a major upside.
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Him and Fowler jr. next year and newberry and maybe drew and rasco this year we would be set at DE
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by Thunder64 on Aug 11, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is it me, or have we taken a tumble in the last couple weeks?
For a while we were looking very good for our big-time targets:
- Drew – seem to be trailing UGA, Auburn creeping into the picture.
- Steward – I think Clemson won a significant battle keeping him from committing after his visit here. Sounds like a toss-up at this point, whereas I felt pretty confident based on what we heard during/after his visit.
- Newberry – FSU
- O’Leary – UM/FSU
- Bell – FSU reportedly leads, but TN mods seem pessimistic — SEC???
- JWJ – UF seems to be back in front
…seem to have slipped with a lot of these guys during a relatively quiet period. Newberry seems to be the only one we can feel fairly confident about. Anyone have a different outlook?
If anything I think things just calmed down
after a few exciting visits.
Steward did what was smart and held off any public announcement and think things over. He was originally about to commit to Clemson and we caught back up, but as things settle down I’d be surprised if he doesn’t go to Clemson. I think we just have to hope he was to wear garnet and gold more than orange and white.
JWJ has never considered playing for another team beyond UF and since his visit we gave him something to think about. Whether that is enough, I don’t think so and he ends up in orange and blue.
I think OLeary will be a nole, perhaps he needs to see some more from Fisher’s O, but I think he ends up with us.
Drew I think stays with UGA unfortunately esp if they start out strong with their new DC.
The other’s I havent kept up with too much.
Of these recruits
I feel most confident in:
Newberry (Especially since he ditched FNL)
Steward (It would be best if he stuck to his original plan to announce on NSD though. Clemson’s recruiters are freakin demons)
Bell ( Though this will get hairy, I believe)
Now I’d love to get O’Leary. But putting myself in his shoes, he’d probably be more attracted to UM. Hell, they just got an ex-basketball player into the NFL at TE I believe. And have a much better track record of utilizing TE’s (Even in raunchy rap songs. LOL) I think Drew may be gone and may have been for a awhile. JWJ (Who to me is more of a “name” than a player as long as he’s fixated on RB) is gonna end up a lizard IMO
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 11, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope we MAIM Clemson with Steawrd @ Doak to watch. Not to mention that is the Honor Derrick Brooks game too (I think)
If he wants a LB great to talk to about FSU, then it doesn’t get any better.
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For me...
Drew-we r still in the thick of things
Steward- FSU lean, was supposed to commit on NSD before and after the visit
Newberry- FSU
O’Leary- Fsu holds little lead over UM
Bell- FSU
JWJ- Toss up here
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Ely to Bama, and Posada to Mich...Will these commits effect JWJ's?
Or does this not effect Wilder at all. We ALL want JWJ in the G and G. Mr. Ely is a decent QB talent and some team is getting a good pick up. The question is are they also getting a little “extra” thought from JWJ because his buddy has committed. Also any updates on Bellamy and his thoughts on FSU? Anyone know if G5 and some other current Noles players are still hyping FSU to James Jr? Let the guessing begin and as always Go Noles. 2010 is the year we start our return to glory. Also, 6’5 310 lb OT, Tony Posada has committed to Michigan, thoughts?. Good luck with getting PT at Bama…
Posada is a good get for the real UM....
If RichRod can somehow survive this season, 38 of their 44 two-deep are back next year, and 25 players on the roster right now are from Florida, Texas, S.Carolina, Louisiana or Georgia. They will be fun to watch – eventhough ‘11 will be Pryor’s senior year, Ohio State goes on the road to Miami, Penn State and the Big House……
I agree
Posado is a big boy and a large part of why Ely and Wilder do so well. I hope Rich makes it another year to finally get to show “his” players.
As a Michigan Alum all I hope for is to give the dude 2011.
I’m tired of all these wieners crying for Jim Harbaugh.
He is a great coach, but
Andrew Luck + Palo Alto + $80,000 bathroom >
Tate Forcier + Ann Arbor + taking a dump in Schembechler Hall
and he would be crazy to come….
Recruits This Cycle?
With loss of Fortson and most likely Carr and even possiblyt Pressley to a medical DQ, how many will we taek this cycle? I also assume we get rid of some dead weight like Wade or ED I. I’m think ing we probably can take a full class now or close to it. I’m thinking 23 to 25. What say you?
Probably a full class now in 2011.
Probably going to be a ton of attrition.
25 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
That's what I thought
At least we have that to look forward to now. There’s always a silver lining with the loss of guys to injury. We all need to stay positive. This train is gonna roll….it’s just needs another year.
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 11, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
Do you think we have any shot at Tim Jernigan??? I now he is uf homer, but look at their depth chart! He could come here and play from day one.
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 11, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
There's always a shot on anyone.
Nonetheless, I don’t think there’s any on Jernigan.
23 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Timmy's down to FSU and UF
If he went to UF, he’d likely be 4th in the DT rotation (assuming they dont RS him); he’d see PT much sooner at FSU. So he’ll just need to weigh these things and make a decision.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
No, Timmy is down to UF, and he has been for like 3 years
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 12, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't understand
a talented guy like that wanting to see behind the D-Line they just recruited last year. He won’t see playing time until maybe junior or senior year. Makes way more sense to come to Tally. I just odn;t get what these kids think when looking at the kind of depth chart.
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 13, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
One more question
What players do you suspect to be part of the attrition? I think Moses comes back since he still ahs 2 years, but Pressley is likely gone and we already know about Fortson and Carr
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 11, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything new from
Terry Bell? Last I heard here was that FSU trailed (Ole Miss, I think). Thx.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Geez!
I sure hope not. I thought we had the edge last I heard. We need this boy.
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 11, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was Auburn maybe?
Anyway, I know the Auburn guys are feeling good about him. UGH. Lemonier part 2. Parts 2 and 3 if they sneak in with Drew.
i think he listed us as his leader
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Wilder's #1 criterion for choosing a school is
feeling comfortable.
Any thoughts on where he feels most comfortable—FSU, UF or UGA?
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Very Interesting Read!!!
Here’s my take. If Urabn Liar gets the last shot and visit prior to his decision then he’s going to uf. CUM will tell him some story about God, blah blah blah we know the usual story with him. If Jimbo and Co. get the last crack then I think he will be a NOLE. Let’s hope he takes his trip to uf on the way to FSU and not on the way back =D
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 11, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Good read.
If someone commits using a freestyle rap, do you accept the commit? Unsure of protocol here.
by norcal_nole on Aug 11, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
UF
If he’s visited many times and is close with the staff I don’t see how anyone could interpret that he would be more comfortable anywhere else. He’s been to FSU a couple of times. Does that make you more comfortable with people and a town you’ve been visiting for years? Don’t think so.
by TampaLawNole on Aug 12, 2010 12:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My first post here on TN
I just watched a video interview from Fla Varsity with him yesterday. He said he had been to FSU & UF about 6 times each. He said he would visit UF and FSU back to back before he announces next week so he can see which is more like home. Visiting UF first then us. He also said somewhere that Odell was a family friend.
I hope he picks FSU but
It’s strange how no one even mentioned, including Wilder, FSU having a real chance and all of a sudden from his last camp visit he now has ties that weren’t known a couple months ago. Not saying it’s not true or maybe the flow of information is slow but why weren’t we hearing about all the strong ties to coaches, visits, and legit shot at him vs Gator lock and we have NO shot. Seems suspect but I hope I’m wrong.
by TampaLawNole on Aug 12, 2010 5:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, I've known about Dawsey and the Wilder family through some TN recruiting guy (think was SOM) for a bit.
Think it was some time around December, but I don’t think it was posted because of how done it seemed like Wilder was to the Gators. Would’ve been pointless to post at the time.
I didn’t know about this Odell Haggins thing though. Seems like Haggins is connected with quite a few families.
23 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
I know the Dawsey thing is legit too and not calling anything or anyone out
I went to the high school in Tampa where Dawsey coached and my brother played with Christian Green (I played on the Kenny Kelly/Darrell Jackson team) hear things second hand. I also live 5 minutes from Plant and know many people connected to that program from growing up and now living in Tampa which are the “people” I refer too, in addition to following this board. Believe me when I say that Wilder going to FSU is out of left field and news to anyone around here. Just trying to be objective. I don’t have inside with recruiters, just what I know from here.
by TampaLawNole on Aug 12, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It was speculated that Waisome & Wilder would be together on the 18th to commit somewhere
Apparently the Plant HS HC has said that Wilder will not be with Waisome. Just that they are committing on the same day is all.
You know Gates & Noles do not want to be in the same room with each other. ;-)
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Disecting Wilder's comment...
“It’s going to be about comfortability,” he said. “The football part is going to take care of itself. I think if you’re a good football player no matter where you are you’re going to do your thing regardless.”
Not sure if everyone else reads this the same way I do, but to me it sounds like he is saying “I’m good enough to go to UF and make them change their plans on running the ball so that I can do my thing.”
I never thought that he was a lock for the gators more than I do now. It’s a shame he’ll be labeled a mediocre RB because he will never be featured it Coach Turban Buyers pass-happy love fest!
We shall see. Definitely interesting here.
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i read it the opposite.
he does NEED to play for UF or to play at LB. He’s good enough that he can go to FSU and do his thing (RB).
THAT SAID, I still think he’s a gator. I’m not basing that conclusion on the quote you’ve listed, but everything else I’ve read and heard.
I liked how in another article he mentioned
the he was impressed by Gran’s ability to get rb’s into the league
I know that Wilder's taking visits to the top 3 this weekend,
but is it true that we get the last visit? Hopefully FSU will stay fresh in his mind
OK so Wilder "is still trying to decide" between his top 3.
If you’re torn on where to go and are admittedly flip flopping between them every other day, how does your commitment in the summer even mean anything? He could easily change his mind at any point after his commitment.
So you can run and tell that, homeboy.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Aug 12, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
I like how Wilder said it might be FSU today, then Florida the next & UGA 3 days from now.
Notice who was on his mind first?
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It's really going to come down
to how the season plays out. I hope that the gators continue their trend of not running the ball so that wilder can them come out and tell the media how he was lied to and how the gators will say anything to get kids into their program. We know Jimbo won’t negatively recruit like that but it would be sweet if these kids did it for us.
by GermDaveNole on Aug 12, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah Pfft
“Florida is gonna run the I formation this year” my ASS.
So you can run and tell that, homeboy.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Aug 12, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
For what it's worth, his "word" may actually mean something.
He hasn’t committed anywhere yet, and he might just have a value system in place that differs from what you get with many other recruits.
Yeah, I was wondering why he would set an announcement date
if he doesn’t already know where he is going to go? Makes no sense unless he is trying to force his own hand and make a spur of the moment decision – which may lead to flip-flopping later.
Setting deadlines and goals could be a good thing.
If I was a recruit or I had a child that was a recruit, I’d try to do that, tell any coaches to stop calling, and then the kid can enjoy their senior year and focus on school and playing football.
It doesn’t necessarily indicate wishy-washiness.
Excellent point
Folks here have mentioned that this would not be the case with Wilder but I absolutely agree that “shutting it down” should be an option exercised more often.
by Caveman Mafia on Aug 12, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The recruiting thread has now turned into the
James Wilder thread. Can’t wait for JW to make a decision so you guys can quit freaking out.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
I'm sure we'll just move on to freaking out about the next guy.
That’s what following recruiting is all about, big boi!
So you can run and tell that, homeboy.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Aug 12, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I can see
the Tony Steward manfest starting about next Thursday.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
Starting to get frustrating TBH
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
JWJ thread?
It’s not that this has become the Wilder thread. It’s that he is the only big recruit that FSU is after is making any noise during the quiet period. That’s why it’s dominated by info/speculation on him. Come up with some info on other guys and we’ll chat about them as well.
I didnt see the video, but
But a buddy of mine told me that in an interview when asked about informing coaches he said something like “ya I’ve been thinking about having to call Coach Meyer… or like any of the coaches and letting them know my decision.”
Who knows if it means anything, but if that’s how it was said I like it.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Sounds like a slip
But that he would be calling Meyer to give him the good news that he will be a Gator. I would think that’s the first coach you call to give your decision but maybe I’m wrong and you tell everyone else the bad news first. Either way it’s not over until February unless he’s an EE
by TampaLawNole on Aug 12, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Looked like what he meant to me
Was that he was going to have to call the coaches and let them know that he would not be going there, not which ones that he would call 1st.
And Yeah I am pretty sure he will be an EE.
What did FSU's class look like at this point last year?
It seems like we’re already lightyears ahead, even without pulling any of the remaining big names.
Here's FSUSOM's Recruiting update which is almost a year old
Weird to see Ed Christian and Corey Miller’s names as commits. Just reminds us that nothing is safe or in stone until NSD.
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/8/19/991434/florida-state-recruiting-update
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
Joyner and Luc didn't commit until December
look at the link above for our current commits around this time last year. We are light years ahead of where we were last year, and are in the mix for so many more good players.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
Agreed
At this point last year, we thought Joyner would be at OSU and Luc to either UF or UM. Things turn around quickly. I do like that our name seems to be in the conversation with highly rated recruits more often than it was last year
Technically, at this time last year, we thought Luc to FSU. There had been a rumor that he was a silent up until the Miami game.
Then it changed to Jeff Luc to Tennessee until the week before Maryland. Then he made a surprise visit during the Maryland game. Made an official visit the week after and committed on that trip.
/recruiting geek.
23 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
What about the Luc to UF thing?
A lot of people claim that if Strong remained at UF then Luc would have ended up there. Or were they mistaken?
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 12, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Luc was an interesting recruitment.
Probably July of his Junior year till about Feb, he was thought to be Miami. Then there was talks about how his mother wanted him out of Miami after the Bryan Pata death. Then from Feb till July it seemed he was a Gator with a supposed silent commitment during FNL. Then it switched the following week when FSU had Seminole Showtime and Luc was able to meet his hero Derrick Brooks.
I really don’t know about the Strong thing. Some Gators claim the Gators cooled on Luc. Other Gators say they could have had him if they wanted. I don’t believe that simply from the fact that you look at Luc’s track record. He EE’d to get playing time. He’s always been an outspoken guy that likes to lead the troops. He wasn’t going to get the chance at early playing time at UF with Jelani Jenkins, and he wasn’t going to be the man like he is at FSU. Not to mention, his older brother goes to FSU.
Fans say a lot of things to get under the skin of rival fans.
23 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Source
a fellow FSU alumni does business with his parents…his mother did not want him going to UM (not a good feeling and wanted him to get away) or FSU (because his brother got into some trouble). Tennessee and USC were on top for a while but after she met with Jimbo and Co she said they made her feel at home and that Jeff was happy and made friends with some of the players. Now they are decked out in G&G and all ’Noles…great people!
by NoleforLife on Aug 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, now that I think about it I do remember Tennessee in the mix
I had heard the thing about luc at UF if Strong stayed
Is Fulse's offer committable?
Meaning, if he wanted in, would we take him and hope O’Leary didn’t back off?
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I don't think either Fulse or O'L are looking to commit any time soon
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 12, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember he was really a focus of attention early on, but have heard very little about him since his commitment.
Why doesn’t he get more press? Because he committed so early and stayed firm? Karlos Williams has managed to stay in the headlines despite staying firm.
How does he grade out as a DT prospect? Quickness, strength, agility for size?
The consensus last year was that he was the better DE playing opposite Tavaris Barnes (4*) last year
Better agility and initial quickness than Barnes as well. Obviously blowing up from a size standpoint so he was gonna end up at DT. I’m excited at the idea of bringing him in along with NLS. Kid needs a 4th star for real. I’d venture to say we’ve heard more about Karlos since he’s been active on the 7 on 7 circuit and obviously skill position kids generally get more press
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 13, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
With that kind of report he might be the gem of the class.
If he honestly has that type of ability (better than a 4* a year ahead of him), and has the frame to get as large as it seems, I don’t really understand what’s holding back his rating. Did he put up similar numbers to Barnes (sacks, tfls, tackles)
(Not that it matters but I am trying to see why recruiting services are holding back praise… oversight or is there a bona fide flaw?)
ESPN has him rated as a low 4* and I'm personally ignoring rivals this year
At least until they get things in order. A low 4* star rating for Mitchell before the season even starts will suffice for now IMO. Especially considering folks think NLS is better than Mitchell. Hence, the overall excitement on my part for getting both of them
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 13, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, dude looks like he could be a BIG SDE.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
Mitchell's the guy on the far right.
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Isn't he the little guy on the left?
I thought we were trying to field the fastest defense in 25 years….
by Caveman Mafia on Aug 13, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
New thread; rec it.
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2010/8/13/1622498/2011-recruiting-discussion-thread-8
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