Reserve defensive tackle Moses McCray and Reserve running back Tavares Pressley are done for the year with torn ACLs.
Both were non-contact injuries. "Neither guy was hit, neither one had a guy around him, just stuck their foot in the ground and it went," Fisher said of the injuries. "It's unfortunate, very unfortunate. They're both great kids."
Pressley was a 5th stringer and is not a loss. His career at FSU has been quite tragic, as this is his second torn ACL in three seasons. Nole fans will be rooting for Pressley to get his degree.
McCray, however, is a loss. Moses was expected to be the backup to Everett Dawkins at defensive tackle, along with Demonte McAllister. This hurts the 'Noles depth and is not good news for a defensive line that was not particularly deep at the position. McCray has now suffered a torn ACL, a hip injury, a dislocated elbow, and another knee injury. One has to ask whether McCray will ever be healthy. I would expect him to redshirt. FSU fans now see how important it was for Dawkins and McAllister to bulk up this off-season, which they did.
We'll have some analysis on this tomorrow, but this injury underscores the lack of DT recruiting and development in 06, 07, and 08 (players who would be redshirt seniors, seniors, and juniors). FSU doesn't have a single upperclassman at DT.
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Here is some good news. There are creative ways out of that job you might hate….
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Awesome.
I have a friend who went out in a blaze of glory at Applebee’s. He soaked his manager’s head with an entire carafe of creamy italian dressing in the middle of the restaurant.
That's just immature.
I know people get fed up with jobs, but in no scenario is that appropriate.
I’m not sure what the laws in that state are, but if I were said manager, I’d make it a nightmare for him to get a job within 30 miles of that town.
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I probably let him slide
And let Karma deal wit him, he didn’t ruin my life, so why try to ruin his…..
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by goatnole76 on Aug 10, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If someone dumped a bucket of dressing on your noodle
in the middle of a restaurant, you’d “let them slide”?
I admire you turn the other cheek attitude, good sir.
I would end him.
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Hey why did you change your screen name and Avatar....
It was real funny…..
I probably would have wanted to try an F up his career at first, but it really not that serious to me…..
BRB….Bring Randall Back…
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He's jerk that's why!
I’m thinking about dumping a bucket of dressing on his scalp!
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by Jamil Dawson on Aug 10, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he was talking about the ariplane guy...
Not sure the circumstances behind the salad dressing, but from what I can tell the passenger on the plane deserved it :)
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(f) impersonate any person or entity, or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity.
I know it was clever (it’s me, after all), but I felt it in bad taste a bit. Especially as TN grows, I didn’t want to people to get mixed up at all, or differentiate myself in that manner.
You’ll get over it. I promise.
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Oh ok....
I just thought it was funny, especially when you say something really funny, and then to look at your Avatar, man priceless…..I’m already over it…..I got other stuff to worry about, like our DT situation, etc…
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Yeah.
It was pretty damn funny.
You should’ve seen my first couple of posts. People were highly perplexed.
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Never thought he was the real Randy
but it was a quality gag in a tumultuous time for FSU football. Thought it was great.
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that's because you're smart
I did get a couple of inquiries regarding it. Pretty sure tricknole still thinks I am.
Anyways, the account is still active, so if I feel particularly compelled or a comical situation presents itself, Spetdawg could return.
I’ve always considered writing a “From the desk of the AD: To the editors and readership of tomahawknation” piece, then going on a tirade about your silly stats and criticisms of the past decade.
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DO IT!
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
CornNole sounds an awfully lot like Colonel, which Spetman is...
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can you get an assault charge or something for that kind of stuff?
by polknole on Aug 10, 2010 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably not.
I just don’t see any reason for that stuff. I took a job in Chicago, only to find out 3 months later that the company had let go 5 reps in the previous 6 months, and was being shopped around.
THAT"s a reason to be pissed off.
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Well,... he did steal a beer
But if I was on that plane (and not in a hurry to get off of course)
I would have offered to buy it for him after the fact knowing what an
absolute ninny the passenger that set him off was being.
There is one charge he could avoid right there had I been involved.
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Apologies
For the totally random comment that has soaked up so much thoughtfulness in the middle of such a depressing thread.
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We needed it.
It’s been a sour couple of weeks for the most part.
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by Jamil Dawson on Aug 10, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh noes.
People be mistakin who you is, pretty soon. You have an identity crisis on your hands.
I"d play it nice, and see if you can convince him to change it up…
After a relatively quiet offseason, we sure have hit period of rotten luck.
Hopefully, we get it out of the way before the season starts.
Medical Redshirt for them?
I know Pressley is a senior but has had terrible luck and will probably take it to try and finally play next year. Almost a given that McCray would take MRS. Right?
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Really doubt for Pressley
I think you’ll see him get asked to graduate.
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
As much work as TP has put in with the team to try and play/get back from his first injury, I doubt if the coaches ask him to move on, "if" he wants try & come back. jmo
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I do not believe he will have the option.
It’s not all about effort. It’s about ability to contribute and the need for scholarships elsewhere. This is a business and allowing TP to come back is a bad business decision.
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely
That’s why these guys don’t get paid, their #1 job coming out of high school is to make their agents rich. Their agents in this case being whatever particular institution has acquired their services, usually through $40,000+ worth of scholarships and a promise of a free ticket into the league.
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I think we can give him the option to return -- but on a contingency basis.
He’ll know he’s the first on the chopping block if we’re overstocked come August 2011, but no harm in waiting to see how the recruiting class qualification issues and other attrition goes.
Sure, as long as the option isn't real.
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If he still gets to go to school
What is the point of him being on the team? Even if he stayed healthy he wouldn’t get much burn or have a high level of play one season after another knee surgery.
by osceolafan2.0 on Aug 10, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Frank Gore was productive after multiple injuries.
I’ve had a few (3) ACLs myself. The adage about some knees coming back stronger than previous is true in some cases; don’t see what it would hurt to leave it out there as an option. (Presumably he could contribute more than one of the walk-on RBs, regardless of whether he returns at full speed.)
If we’re worried about saving money on the scholarship (going with 84) vs. reserving for another player, then I disagree philosophically.
Not about the money. It's about how needing the room.
Pressley should be graduating this year. He’s had his 3 years and came with an AA. If not, tough luck.
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Hate to push this issue because it's a small storyline,
but how many schollie’s are we using right now? Certainly not 85, considering Carr (soon), Fortson, Jacobs, DJJ, and possibly others?
Unless you go Lester/LSU and WAAAYYYYY oversign, there are inevitably scholarships left over. I would just favor using one on a guy that’s bled a little (literally) for the program than kicking him to the curb and giving it to a walk-on. And I say this as a former walk-on at FSU — I just think it’s somewhat of an injustice to throw him out when scholarships are almost inevitably available. If we truly use 85 as of August next year, then he should understand… but if not, let him get started on a Master’s and create some goodwill for the program through him and everyone he’s connected with.
I believe the plan is to go full 85 and believe FSU will take 25 or 26 guys
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Arrdub's point is well-taken
But he’s hardly being thrown out. He’s been put in a position to complete his undergraduate education, which is the end-game for the vast majority of college athletes. It’s not like the program is limiting his pro prospects by advising him to move on; his unfortunate injuries have done that. Otherwise, he could enter the draft anyways. It’s not really fair to the team or to TP to keep him around on schollie just to bury him at 6 or 7 on the depth chart. I’m sure there are lots of athletes (and head coaches) that would love to stick around for just one more year and try and realize untapped potential, but it often doesn’t work that way.
Don’t mean to sound callous, because it is sad, but that’s the reality. If he really wants to stick around (not sure if he does), then presumably he could be a walk-on or even take some kind of staff role (which would help on the goodwill end).
Was Gore productive the season immediately following surgery?
Serious question bc I can’t remember if he had a year to get himself together.
by osceolafan2.0 on Aug 10, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
dont like Gore for a few reasons. he destroyed my high school team
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by NorthernHaze on Aug 10, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like him
Because he considers dogfighting “not a big deal”
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It was a bad business decision to take him over Blount
Yeah, I know Blount had his issue. But in my mind, there was never a comparison between the two. I wanted the guy from down the road.
How ironic that FSU got the guy to come east from California and Oregon got a guy to go all the way out west from North Florida.
I feel for Pressley. But I was never knocked out. And that was pre-injury.
Don't recall the specifics
But I thought Blount passed on us as opposed to the other way around. Am I misremembering? Apologies if so.
Yeah, but only if his sucker punch was directed at Timmy.
Otherwise, I strongly disagree, we wouldn’t have wanted ANY PART OF THE ESPN HEADLINES that Blount appeared to be destined to create.
There were no "warning signs" that I'm aware of on Blount pre-punch
I’ve known his family for nearly 40 years and there was nothing there to suggest he would do what he did, that I’m aware of.
I suspect that if we had stayed after him, he would have been a Nole. I don’t know that. But I suspect it.
No familiarity with the situation personally.
I gathered from what others said there were red flags…?
But if we’re talking about circumstances as they were, we didn’t know TP would blow up multiple knees upon enrollment, either.
All hindsight relative to both players.
I was a bigger fan of Blount, pre-injury
LaGarrette is bigger, stronger, more physical.
I thought that was more what we needed at the time. A pounder, especially on the goal line.
I would have loved to have given him the ball at the end of the 2008 Ga Tech game, for example.
in all fairness
Marcus Sims had it… then he didn’t… :)
not excusing the action
But that wasn’t a “sucker punch”. Boise doucher initiated contact and talked smacked to an obviously volatile Blount. He earned his shiner.
by The K-Man on Aug 10, 2010 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Agree a little over 100%
He might talk smack to someone like that again, but that punch will be on the forefront of his mind every time he puts his mouth in gear from now on.
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However bad the incident was for Blount
and uncalled for yadda yadda, Boise boy totally asked for it.
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Boise Boy is NEVER going to live that one down
He could go on to win 3-4 super bowl titles and when someone goes up to him the first question….“Hey aren’t you that dude that got knocked out on National TV?” Lol. Blount should not have thrown a punch, but boy if you are going to make it count!
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Totally deserved it.
Wasn’t he looking right at Blount anyway? A sucker punch is when you get knocked the f out like this guy:
OK, please excuse the "sucker punch" phraseology.
I will call it an “idiot punch,” because it was both directed at an idiot who was talking smack, as well as delivered by an idiot — due to his lack of concern for his own personal well-being, his team’s well being, and the image of his university in comparison to gratifying his desire to lash out.
If everyone that had to endure smack talk from a punk ended up swinging, there wouldn’t be a whole lot of players left on the field.
Idiot punch.......classic
Sounds like mix drink too……
And co-sign your last statement too….
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Well, you make a strong argument
But in my opinion its all about accountability. It’s impressive to see people use restraint when faced with taunts such as that, but when it finally does happen – how can you really say it wasn’t deserved?
The Boise guy said it to invoke an emotional response.
He got one.
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The Boise guy walked off with a "W," while the Oregon guy walked away with an "L," and heaped a double load of shame on himself, to boot.
Maybe if Blount and his teammates showed a little more discipline their team would have won the ballgame. In fact, I think I can say with certainty that character is the ONLY reason Oregon should ever lose a game to Boise. (The kind of character that goes into making individual sacrifices for the greater good.)
And, to clarify, I root heavily against teams like Boise in any game like this.
If they didn't 230+ lb back running laterally IN the endzone maybe they would've
been ok.
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
Blount was from where, Perry?
But Pressley is from Arcadia, I believe. He just played juco in Cali. And I don’t think we chose him over Blount. We wanted both. Blount just wanted immediate and guaranteed playing time and we couldn’t offer either.
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Bring him back to tear the other knee up Again…..should get his degree, and maybe start coaching…
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Pressley just isn't panning out
Hate it for him because he seems like a great guy, but FSU won’t keep him on in favor of an incoming recruit.
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 10, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
How many players rotate at DT?
McCloud, McAllister are crucial backups this year. Also have to wonder if Erving doesn’t see the field this year.
25 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Maybe this causes us to wait on the paperwork for Jacobs?
Another DT two weeks late is better than -1 DTs.
Yeah Erving will probably not be redshirting.
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Will Cummings be seeing significant time even though he's a freshman?
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Yes and would have even before
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Should be a SDE
Maybe he swings some to DT now?
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by basbalstr101 on Aug 10, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He's pretty big and bulky
Don’t know about him being a DE anymore.
Can’t believe it almost seems like we’re deeper at DE due to this loss.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
he was pictured with the DT's on media day...
don’t know if that means anything…
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He came in way bigger than expected and exploded in the weight program.
He’s a DT now
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
So that makes Bjoern the only DE recruit from last cycle?
I have high hopes for Mr. Werner
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by basbalstr101 on Aug 10, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Understatement.
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
So he's really set at DE then?
As big as he is already, i’d think he’d grow into a DT.
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
If he's got the quicks, then no problems leaving him at DE.
He’s listed at 6’4 and looks to have a substantial wingspan, so he might be a prototype G.A.M. SDE at 290-300.
Remember that he’s already 20+ years old, so he’s FSU’s DE of the future NOW.
Sounds awesome, Bjoern is at least serviceable if necessary right?
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
Excellent,
feels good to finally have some G.A.M.’s albeit young ones on the D-line.
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
Hey guys this is my first post I hate it had to be on such crappy news but this is a really big lost to our D
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Thanks I been a reader for a long time now and Im pretty young but I learn alot from you guys everyday about the game of football and our beloved FSU Seminoles
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How young is young?
Just curious how young readership goes on this site. No need to answer if it’s too personal (if this story is even still active enough to get your response).
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Any candidates from the OL to switch over in a pinch?
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 10, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions
I think Stoops would go multiple (3-4, etc.) before having to play an OL in a 4-3 base
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Situationally I'm guessing that would be a better option.
Unless it was someone who was a big-time HS D-lineman who switched over. Hate to see a mental lapse cost us a game or something.
Interesting
Could this be better for us considering the LBs are the strength of our D?
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by Jamil Dawson on Aug 10, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say "better"
because that implies that Stoops would not play the optimal configuration(s) already.
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You're right. I didn't word it properly.
Does the loss of McCray make 3-4 the best formation for us considering the strength of our LB corps? I know he was going to be multiple but is this injury significant enough to alter our preferred scheme?
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by Jamil Dawson on Aug 10, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
If your best 7 players has 4 LBs
then you’ve got to find a way to get that configuration onto the field.
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Doubtful because of how long it would take to learn.
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LB's don't dictate success or failure of the 3-4 Defense.....your NT does.
If you do not have a NT that DEMANDS a double-team on every single snap….then you cannot play 3-4.
3-4 defenses also have natural bubbles vs. the interior run.
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Also think of leverage. Hide the less effective bodies at DT in lower leverage snaps.
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I’m guessing you’re referring to snaps in which are less important to the outcome of the game, or against certain types of formations/down and distance in which having supersonic DT’s is not a focal point?
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both sort of
there are 1600 DT snaps to account for. Not each is created equal.
When we are up by 28 on Samford or Wake the snaps are not as meaningful as when we are tied with UF.
Also in the course of the game we can slide guys like Cummings in a little more in passing situations, 3rd and longs etc.
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Real bad news
Hopefully our big German friend picked up the cross training well. He is definitely big enough to spend time playing both positions.
are you refering to the amish kid we signed on 1 april?
i hope he’s been lifting the hay bales and comes in ready..
by 000111 on Aug 10, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes - that was a joke
if you recall, according to the article he only spoke german…
Sonuva...
I feel bad for Pressley as a person, but the McCray thing really sucks for the team (as did the Carr, Fortson stuff). Argh!
3 carries for 60yds 1 TD in the spring scrimmage was a good sign. I had high hope to see him get more PT but not start or anything.
Poor kid came back to Florida from Cali to play ball for us & it just hasn’t worked out for him.
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Do not believe he was in contention to get any real PT
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Gran said some good things about him
I was always under the impression that we thought he could be a stud if heallthy?
He's said good things about all the backs...
I don’t think anyone expected him to seriously contribute. Thompson/Thomas/Pryor/Smiley with a little Ty Jones, maybe, but I just didn’t see it happening.
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I hope it's a rare day when coaches slam players in public
I would hope that coaches in public would take the “no comment” route on players and their abilities in public. Not to mention that Pressley was recruited while Coach Fisher was here, so to take a shot at him would be to take a shot at Coach Fisher’s ability to evaluate, seems to me.
He’s contributed right around as much as I personally expected. And even got in the USF game last year at a point in time when I wouldn’t have wanted him carrying the football.
He’s getting three years of room, board and education out of us. I think he’s done quite well for himself, all things considered.
He’s contributed right around as much as I personally expected.
Seriously?
From his hype, I expected the kid to be starting this year. Remember how he supposedly could’ve outrun Usain Bolt if given the shot?
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I based my opinion on my eyes not on the hype
In watching the film, I just didn’t see the great size/speed combination.
You didn't like his film?
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Don't forget about...
the free knee surguries he had as a scholarship athlete as well. All is all, despite the shortcomings of his football career, a free education, room, board, and medical attention is a pretty good deal for a young man. Im sorry to see him have such bad luck. Best of luck to him in the future.
You can't count the "free" surgeries.
If he wasn’t playing ball at FSU he wouldn’t have needed the surgeries.
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generic praise would be something like ‘hard worker’ or ‘great sense of humor and likes to dance’..
being the fastest rb is kinda specific and rather a big deal..
Yes, but "fastest" & out of position doesn't mean much....
….Except it gives you the opportunity to show that speed by spectacularly run down C.J. Spiller or Chris Rainey from behind after 60+ yard runs.
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feel bad for him
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Did Budd Thacker use up all his eligibility?
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Aug 10, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Even my 8 year old kid would be more productive.
And I dont have a kid, am not married, and am not engaged to be married…
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Seems like Dan Kendra could change positions again--
I think he might have another year, and no real injury risk.
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Not really
I’d say there’s extreme risk of injury if you get him near a bunson burner
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by The Ryno and I Know on Aug 10, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He did go from QB to FB
A switch to DT shouldn’t be that difficult.
by NoleySmokes on Aug 11, 2010 6:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't know what all the fuss is about
I’m sure there are plenty of walk-ons available. They make better D-line starters anyways.
by BayNole9 on Aug 10, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone tell Haynesworth we play a 4-3
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by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 10, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He played end in the "Prowler"
And after some time in Viloria’s S&T program ya just never know.
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
DT depth chart
Something like this?
At NG- Jacobbi, McCloud
At DT- Dawkins, McCallister, Cummings
Still projects to be a big improvement over last year.
That's what I have it at.
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet he plays now and takes garbage snaps at the very least.
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Think he has to
Can’t really assume the rest of the DTs will make it through the season with no time-loss injuries. Just hope there are no more severe ones.
Fair enough-
Put Erving in @ 3rd string NG, but as far as rotation goes, I’m thinking that Cummings sees 2x-3xs the number of snaps, barring further injuries.
Erving is a beats for a freshy! I think he will be good. Just raw & needs some coaching
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I gotcha, and I don't really disagree with you
I like his potential a lot.
But without this injury, I’m pretty confident he would have redshirted. I just think that the extra snaps that are available will in all likelihood be mostly absorbed by the 5 players I mentioned.
This is a good point.
This defense wasn’t going to be world beaters anyways. Getting a super young DT some extra snaps against quality OL may be very good for his development. We simply don’t know.
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Thinking about RB depth. Is Ty Jones still with us? Haven't heard much about him
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Snaps
Jmac 490
McCloud 290
Erving 20
Dawkins 400
McAllister 280
Cummings 120
Just a guess
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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
can't afford
any more losses.
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
particularly cobi
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Any of McDaniel, Dawkins, or McCloud hurts pretty bad.
Still feel good about that rotation but will be walking on thin ice.
3 deep should be enough,
especially since the cross- training approach will assure that the best 2 guys available are on the field.
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by PeachTreeNole on Aug 10, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Might see crossing/sliding of positions a little to account for leverage of down. See a little 3 Lineman as well.
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Maybe we get that type player next year.....
I wonder if Nile Lawrence-Stample can make it EE….we need help ASAP in the trenches…..
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I wish those were weights listed, Cummings a thick midget and Erving would be a Pygmy....
Just trying to lighten the mood I guess….
by Ramblin' Man on Aug 10, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know anything
about that Joshua Rodriguez guy? Is he on scholarship? Or just a long lasting walk on? Listed as a RS junior at 6’0" 297 lbs. I’m sure we would have heard something from the coaches about him if he was any good but I wonder if he is decent enough to play a few snaps a game.
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Rodriguez, super serious special surprise contributor of the year. Bank it.
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Now, if he didn't have a bio, I would have thought you was playing
At Florida State: Will lend depth and experience to the Seminoles’ defensive line as a sophomore…one of the hardest working players on the team who pushed the veterans for playing time during his first year as a Seminole.
I say put him out there…..
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I did manage to find that
I’m just guessing he lacks any quality talent. But if we HAVE to have a guy in for a 4 or 5 plays a game. Then so be it. Really looks like a guy that would be perfect for blow out time.
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm wit you on this one......Seriously
Freshman Season (2008): Earned playing time for the first time in his career at the defensive tackle position against Western Carolina and Chattanooga….played in two games during the season.
It may be a couple more that can be used for mop up duty…..for different positions(where there are depth issues)
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Let us not forget
That he was under Mickey. Even though his position coach is still O’Dell, perhaps he’s developed a little bit with some help around him.
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Jody Allen, is that you?
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by The Ryno and I Know on Aug 10, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of my high school classmate Davey Ford when he was at FSU
Tough for the poor kid. Feel for him.
Well, this is obviously a sign that
this Viloria guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. I mean, knee injuries on non contact drills? Wasn’t he supposed to make these guys stronger?!?!?
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It's a testament to the intelligence of the readership here that nobody has said that.
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DJJ
Someone mentioned earlier while talking about scholarships D. Johnson. Did this guy not qualify or what? I have been waiting to here any news on him.
He will be missed.
All 105 pounds of him.
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 10, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't make it and what we found out is that what he was saying wasn't accurate at all.
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Im kinda confused......
Seem like coaches know when some recruits might not make it in, well before registering for school, but some like DJJ go through the whole process of recruiting. Then it’s comes time to report to school, then the sh1t hits the fan.
Do College coaches have any access to transcripts, test scores, or any thing else needed to start school or they just go by what the recruit tells them?
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As far as how he was progressing in his classes.
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I was thinking about that too
But I thought that would be for the current HS coaches to stay on top of his players and to relay that to who ever is recruiting them
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Most HS coaches aren't going to care
about a Senior’s grades once football season is over. Especially since most of them have classes to teach
by osceolafan2.0 on Aug 10, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume most won't care
But if it’s your Star WR, being courted by multiple D-1 schools, I would be making sure he get its together or at least try….IDK that’s just me….I understand what you’re saying though
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They have access to transcripts and test scores
but not like grades a kid just made on a quizz in class.
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I hate these fluke
Non-contact injuries. We have professional S&G in place, good coaches, but still luck seems to rear its head and prove everything cannot be controlled.
I was hoping McCray would be the monster he could not be last year due to his arm.
Substitution infraction
Do you think anyone would notice if we dressed Odell Haggins in McCray’s uniform and lined him up?
I did see he had it wrapped up
wonder what he did.
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It's probably hurt from sticking his foot up the ass of our DT's from last year.
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but injury listed as
“over use”
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Take one for the team!
I’d be willing to sacrifice Odell for the greater good of the team. Hell, he could just flop that big body down and plug up most of the line of scrimmage. If he further injures his knee, he can coach from a wheelchair.
I kind of figured Moses tore his acl.
This sucks for both guys. It hurts our team more at the DT position but I really feel for Tavares.
Fisher remains optimistic.
This is probably worthy of its own fanpost, but it’s on-point for this discussion.
Rising Up! Youngsters like McAllister, Smith and Haulstead are making the climb.
“Demonte is coming on very well,” said Fisher. “[Freshmen] Cam Erving and Darious Cummings – those guys are going to be good players. Darious is really physical inside. He’s 290 pounds with a great body. Plus you’ve got the top three guys – Jacobbi (McDaniel), Amp (McCloud) and Everett (Dawkins) – and Demonte is coming on.”
I feel really bad for TP
-Qualification delays
-2 Major ACL tears
-His ONLY college highlight is getting destroyed, knocked basically unconcious, and losing a fumble in our own territory.
WAR PAINT OF TN
"McCray has now suffered a torn ACL, a hip injury, a dislocated elbow, and another knee injury."
Ugly list, career over? Seems like it would be tougher for such a big guy to rehab constantly. Good luck to the big man.
And a heart issue and perhaps a shoulder.
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both are in my prayers.
You know this sucks but there might be a bright idea from this. Seeing as we are better stocked at the LB area what do you think about us running more a 3-4 look for the most part.
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There's a discussion about this already, earlier in the comments.
I think it would take too long to implement, not enough practive time. Also, mentioned above is the NT position, good points made.
I don't know why he is out
Burt Fisher said it wasn’t serious, and it’s just pre-cautionary reasons…..can’t remember if he said anything about when he would be back….
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