2011 Recruiting Discussion Thread #8 [CLOSED]
by DA-2 on Aug 13, 2010 11:17 PM EDT
Email
PrintWelcome to the recruiting discussion thread. Please refer to the Recruiting Board for information on prospects. We are asking readers comment here instead of the recruiting board so that the recruiting board will load quicker. Feel free to talk recruiting news, rumor, information, etc. Amateurs and experts are all welcome. No question is too simple. Have a projected class? That's fine as well.
Once this thread fills up, we will start a new one.
Also, please don't fish for information from subscription websites. Violators will be banned from this thread.
Notes:
- OL Bobby Hart commits to Florida State. 07.16.10.
- 2012 DB PJ Williams commits to Florida State. 07.24.10.
- Removed DE Ricardo Williams, OL Mike Matulis, DT Chavis Atkins, DB Cortez Davis. 08.12.10.
- James Wilder commits 08.14.10 Removed Nick Waisome 08.14.10
FAQ:
1. Is Texas RB considering FSU?
Somewhat, but FSU seems to be outside looking in. Credit Coach Eliot for his Texas connections getting FSU's foot in the door. If he decides to officially visit, we will add them to the board. It seems unlikely now with Wilder.
2. Will FSU take 2 WRs now instead of just Rashad Greene?
This is more likely with the dismissal of Jarmon Fortson. FSU is loaded at wide receiver and doesn't need to take another. FSU could have as many as 13 wide receivers in 2011. That's more than optimal and is not a good use of finite resources (85scholarships). However, this answer likely depends on the future of Taiwan Easterling (baseball, but when?) and Cam Wade (don't see many non-contributing 5th-year seniors on the roster). The coaches will be in the best position to determine this, and we are not going to second guess their move here.
3. What's up w/ Tony Steward?
This is a Clemson-FSU battle. Clemson is in desperate need of linebackers because its current crop lacks both quality and numbers. Plus, Steward's idol is Ernie Sims, who was coached by Clemson LB coach Kevin Steele. Steward named Clemson his leader following the camp. Despite this, we are confident in FSU's position with him. Steward is very respectful and has said good things about every school he visits. Clemson will be an underdog in 5-7 games this season and it would be hard to see them land the top LB prospect in the nation from out of state while finishing with 5 or 6 losses. While we are mindful that Clemson can promise him an immediate starting job playing for Ernie Sims' former coach while FSU cannot (FSU is loaded with linebacker talent), we think FSU is in good position at the present time and that FSU's position will only improve from here. It will really depend on whether the kid prefers immediate playing time or the better program.
Archive of Old Recruits Discussion Thread:
2011 Recruiting Discussion Thread #1
2011 Recruiting Discussion Thread #2
2011 Recruiting Discussion Thread #3
2011 Recruiting Discussion Thread #4
2011 Recruiting Dicussion Thread #5
265 comments
|
7 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I agree!
I want one of those coveted DE to commit
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 14, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
FSU missed out in the recruiting wars on this one
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=55682
Bring back Peter Tom Willis
Ann say hello to the grand kids
That thing looks like what most of the UT "ho"stesses looked like.
Outside of that main skanky one and a few of her colleagues. Maybe that’s the best they got.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
I noticed that we are not just going after bigger players
It seems to me we are going after smarter ones as well. A lot of the recruits we have or want teams like Duke want too. If Duke wants someone then they shouldnt have a problem getting into college. Also It almost seems like we are close to getting all the people we need. Is FSU still looking into the idea of over recruiting and getting ride of dead weight or are we past that and working with what they have.
Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry
Not over recruiting in the classic Houston Nutt sense
But we are definitely recruiting more players than scholarships currently available (based on seniors leaving) and we will be trimming the dead weight next off season.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Aug 15, 2010 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Has anyone seen the film of Marvin Bracy mentioned in AC's blog?
Acknowledging the fact that he’s a 2012 prospect and a long way off, I’m curious to see if it’s only the speed that is attracting people to the kid in spite of the fact he’s only played JV ball ’til now. Or is it common for kids to get promises of offers before ever competing at the varsity level?
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
Correction, it's an article in the Orlando Sentinel.
Here.
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
It seems like an offer built around speed and potential
If he can play then bring him in, he could a percy harvin/ trindon holliday kind of player
Agreed
Will be interesting to see how he performs on the field the next two years.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 15, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't really place Holiday/Harvin into the same mold.
Very different players, IMHO. Maybe my memory is twisted somehow, but I don’t remember Holiday being quite the “football player” that Harvin was/is.
Harvin probably outweighs him 30 lbs and is also a fairly elite pass catcher — even though he isn’t that tall, UF would throw him jump balls with regular success. Holiday was more like Louis Givens x5 — pure speed guy.
Only a sophomore, this kid could have a lot of room to grow, and at 5’9 160, he’s already close to Holiday’s size (if I recall). Hope Bracy ends up a lot more like Harvin than Holiday, if he ends up in G&G… though I’ll take a Holiday as a consolation…
Trindon is only 5-5
Bracy would have a higher football ceiling IMO. More of a Jeff Demps or Harvin type I’d think
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 15, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed Rdub
Holliday and Harvin can’t be in the same conversation, unless you’re discussing players that run a sub 4.1 40 and whose last name start with the letter H
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
If we are talking about players that do that then we aren't talking about anyone.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
Obviously an exaggeration, Trick.
Lighten up a tad, mate.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
by CornNole on Aug 17, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Keep that in mind...
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
Hell, I simply assumed Bracy was a Senior based on his times
We’ll see how this plays out eventually
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 15, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
FSU...why not?
these recruits need to truly evaluate their “best interests” because based off last yrs underachievement of a season there are various position that should be considered as open. there’s no reason why FSU shouldn’t get a top flight back this yr we haven’t had a legit back since GJones & LWash tandom. so for all these wavering commits I’ll make it easy, Jimbo + Accountability + Stoops + Tradition= Wins & NFL Scouts banging down the doors…defense is where all the under achieving is and where all opportunities are so what’s with all the top flight defensive snubs? I mean stability is there and the commitment to success is as well so I’m still lost. Steward, Waisome, Dix you guys have to be kidding you can come right in and be in the mix so WHY NOT?
I Believe in Jimbo
You have seen the numbers of NFLers from Bama and UF lately, right?
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
I've seen it all but we can do that also
bringing in top flight talent utilizing coaching and developing players, I get it. but in our heyday we were pumping guys out of doak and we were playing for it all quite frequently. the jury is still out on Jimbo that I know but hey he is changing the current up there we have to admit. we can change the “tide” with wins over Mia+Uf+Acc+Bcs bowl win(honestly thinking we’re 3 yrs away) but with the top flight recruits it’ll be sooner than later
I Believe in Jimbo
Hoping we have enough local connections to pull that kid.
Not only a beast, but one of those kids that going to generate nothing but good press for 3-4 straight years. An asset to the community rather than one of the mobile crime sprees we’ve observed recently.
What do the “insiders” know about him? Is he still thought to be leaning UGA over FSU?
He probably doesn't know himself
“Whenever I make the decision, I want to make it sure it is the right one, and that’s why I plan on being a late commit – somewhere around signing day, maybe a little after. I want to make sure it’s the right decision.’’
-Drew
The only thing with that is signing/committing late doesn't guarantee it being a better decision than doing it earlier.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
Maybe not guarantee it... but hanging out as long as possible does give you the most time to make an informed decision, right?
Like last year, if a kid committed to UF in August, he wouldn’t know Meyer was a walking time bomb at that point in the season.
For Drew in particular, since he seems to be seriously considering FSU, he’ll want to watch our new defense progress for a full season under the new staff, right?
So if they’re a kid that takes their word seriously, then waiting can be a prudent approach.
It only makes sense if they're just too busy in the summer/fall to see/visit/ask what they need/want to see/visit/ask.
Or if there are specific things, such as implementation of scheme or coaching changes, that will affect their position in college.
I agree completely. But Drew said he may even announce AFTER signing day. How is that necessary?
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
Doesn't seem to fit him, specifically,
But a lot of stuff plays out on signing day. Some recruits might want to figure out whether a school is bringing in 2 or 4 DEs (like us last year, with Lemonier, Ferguson on the line til the end).
Also, might want to consider the quality of the overall class to see if it looks like the program really made a positive stride towards improving its lot. This might very well be applicable to FSU.
Plenty of sound reasons for making decisions at various points in time… but doesn’t necessitate that a recruit applies any logic at all to the matter.
I've seen people on here say he's already at about his playing weight in college.
Looking at that pic I must say I strongly disagree. Definitely looks like he could add 20+ pounds his next 3 years (make that next 4 years…1 in high school and 3 in college).
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
I have a sick feeling that we all get disappointed on August 18th.
I hope I am wrong.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
I think trick is talking about Drew...
..and I’ll agree he might be able to put no more mass. Wouldn’t be surprised if he is one of those 290 lb DEs by the time he’s done with college.
I'm optimistic.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
um...
Well good thing we went after Rashad Greene, then. The pressure may heat up on Kelvin Benjamin, though.
wow. Shocker.
Seemed like a really good kid to me.
by fsufrenzy911 on Aug 16, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Just read on a Gate board that he was breaking up a fight between two girls
that they expect this to go away fairly quickly.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Now really?
He has a long way to go until he ventures into Clarett territory.
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 16, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a metaphor
Lets see how the situation turns out first
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 16, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he's not in clarett's neighborhood yet, but he's off to a good start
he’s been arrested in high school
and he committed to uf…
Dodged a bit of a bullet with LeMay didn't we
Maybe it all plays out for the best for the kid. But right now he is going to be home schooled and apparently will not be playing football his senior year.
So that's why Ray Drew was in contact with him daily?
Possibly to provide guidance/encouragement/support? Not necessarily to recruit each other to UGA? Maybe I should’ve read the article instead of just skimming.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
Lmao I need an edit button. I suck....
Karlos Williams…. woot I finally spelled it right.
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Great for Karlos!!
but Rivals sucks.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 17, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This just seems so random to be predicting UGA
Nobody is predicting UGA. I can’t even find anyone predicting UF at this point (for tomorrow). Everyone thinks FSU. Usually all that smoke turns out to be indicative of the fire…unless:
a) It’s all calculated to build drama for him when he chooses UF (in which case I would lose some respect for him)
b) He really ends up going with his heart when he gets up on the podium (in which case I wouldn’t lose respect for him)
I still predict UF
though you’re right—lots and lots are saying FSU now. I still think we’re being set up. Probably by Wilder himself to create some excitement for the announcement.
The only thing that bothers me about the JWJ saga is...
that ALL of this smoke immediately started after this long-time UF silent’s commitment to UF was supposedly leaked. So the theory would go that someone stole his thunder, so he took a couple steps to build the drama back up. And now we’ve seen strong rumors to several of UF’s rivals — FSU, then Alabama, now Georgia. Throw in Tennessee and I would be thoroughly convinced.
While a bunch of folks say, “don’t think of this kid like Elam” — if he’s actually orchestrated all this and it is, in fact, a sham, I think it’s a lot worse than Elam. Elam was just a kid that wanted to be a gator from the start but got scared off when their coached flipped out. That was a sincere reaction, not a full-on parade like this could turn out to be.
I’m not saying he’s that type of kid, but I don’t know what type of kid he is. But if he is that type of kid, the timing reconciles some of what is being observed. If he picks UF tomorrow, I’ll be tempted to hold him in lower regard than I hold Elam. Which is generally to say, not exactly a kid that’s got his priorities straight. And it would still be speculation because most of us will never know exactly what is going through his head/what has happened behind the scenes.
So that’s my conspiratorial angle. I hope all this stuff we’ve heard about his respect for Gran and his family’s connections with Dawsey are accurate, and we get good news tomorrow.
Well said
Elam played us and I’ll never think any differently. He used FSU as a pawn when Meyer betrayed his trust (Matt: You’re cattle like the other 84 players. Thing is, Meyer knows it, you don’t). If Wilder commits to UF it would confirm that this was all just manufactured drama to bring more attention to his commitment saga. I have to say thus far it has been a rousing success
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 17, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
IMO he's a Gate.
I think it’s one of these, “I went with my heart, has always dreamed of playing at UF”. Dismissing spread offense questions, and Meyer has promised to structure offense around him.
Meyer
promised to play him at QB in the “WILDgat” Formation
by LincolnHighNole on Aug 18, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
When will this be over...I want to hear about DL and OL screw RB stuff.
by Yolonole on Aug 17, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
5 o'clock tonight.
Although even then it won’t really be over.
by Nole2005 on Aug 18, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just a random thought
but a commitment from Wilder today could be a bad thing. What if he commits but then we don’t have the season he hoped for (say 8-4)? He might then jump ship which could result in some of our other commits following suit. Maybe a pessimistic thought but I see it as a possibility.
by Nole Holds Barred on Aug 18, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Still doesn't make it a bad thing
If a bad season could run him off it wouldn’t matter if he committed to us or didnt. If he commits to us then at this point he’s ours to have and to hold, we blow it we blow it. But if a bad year could lose him then in no way is him committing to us today a bad thing.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Aug 18, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And I don't see any of our current commits following a player they committed before
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Aug 18, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really doubt our coaches are going around telling recruits we're going 11-1 or the like this year.
Which means they won’t be too surprised if we do go 8-4, which would likely be a solid, but unspectacular year. If we show Wilder we run the ball effectively and aren’t some gimmick offense like his other finalist, then we shouldn’t lose him.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
by tricknole on Aug 18, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we lose to FU and OU by slim margins
Play Miami tough, then get dropped by either Clemson or UNC, I see no shame in 8-4
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
I’ve been lurking for the past couple of months, and finally registered. Definately the best info around on this site! I think this may be the link to the live broadcast of the Wilder Jr. announcement. Then again, I might be making a fool out of myself if its not. Ok, back to my seat in the back of the class…
http://hometeam.tampabay.com/blog/2010/aug/17/live-blog-join-us-james-wilder-jr-announcement/
by NoleHoldsBarred on Aug 18, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Que Frank. Welcome to TN and thanks for joining.
When you have time……….
>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Aug 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow…I can’t believe it let me create the name….guess I need to start working on a new one. Sorry
by NoleHoldsBarred on Aug 19, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Source: Wilder to FSU (unless he has a change of heart)
From AC’s twatter
Lots of confidence around the Moore Athletic Center that James Wilder will pick Florida State later today. We shall see.
http://twitter.com/osseminoles/status/21504947694
>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Aug 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Devonta Freeman a four star now....nice
Can I be on Team Gold??
by nolewhacker on Aug 18, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That's awesome.
So we now have a 4* RB and hopefully a 5* later today. Where does that leave Beverly though – and do we need 3 RB?
by reznik1979 on Aug 18, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
MaxPrep source: 80-90% JWJ not choosing Georgia.
Also, just found this:
http://chuckoliver.net/blog/2010/08/18/chuckoliver-net-exclusive-james-wilder-likely-to-fsu/
Still rumors, but these sound a little more concrete than the FanHouse.com nonsense.
by Jtyler998 on Aug 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
In non Wilder news
Devonta Freeman was evaluated by Rivals as a 5.8 ****
by norcal_nole on Aug 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
was just about to post that
great news
CP7 FOR HEISMAN 2010
by gdbatt4 on Aug 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 nice K Williams a 5 and Freeman a 4 in the past few hours
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 18, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That makes no sense! How does a kid that hasn't played his senior season drop like that?
Greene is a great WR. Rated much better than 250+ on most sites
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
That's why Rivals SUCKS!!!
They are awful
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 19, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I like whatever site has our commit rated the highest. I use different ones for different players :)
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Is this staff THAT good?
Freeman from nowhere to four stars?
Interested to see where he’s rated by the other services.
by LouC on Aug 18, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Eddie Gran is.
The man knows talent.
by Jtyler998 on Aug 18, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Freeman is benefitting from an early offer from an elite RB coach?
Works both ways, correct?
FTR: Playing devil’s advocate on this one. One of the guys who run the scouting camps flat out said Freeman should be/would be a 4* after this season.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Wilder Jr is Max Preps #1, Scout #6, Rivals #3 but ESPN #19 overall in the nation
Usually I like ESPN’s rankings but what is up with that. They are the only ones to have him 4* instead of 5*
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 18, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Isaiah Crowell
According to Newberg’s twitter on ESPN – if today was NSD Crowell would be going to UGA. That has got to be factoring into JWJ plans. He’s not going to go to a school where the #1 RB this cycle is probably going to end up. It’s down to UF and FSU only. Gotta be if the kid is smart. He’ll end up at FSU if he’s REALLY smart.
by GermDaveNole on Aug 18, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Told you! Wilder is a Nole. I never waivered. ;-)
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 18, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
1% chance on waisome
if he pulls for FSU, I’ll officially retire from commenting on recruiting.
by Nole2005 on Aug 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pat yourself on the back
and get ready for six months full of rumors.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 18, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As I listened to him talk, I found myself even more wanting him to be a Nole
Too many people are impatient jerks that aren’t willing to give a kid 25 minutes in the sun for his accomplishments. And it’s not like you have to watch.
He came off as a nice kid with nice things to say. And he had fun with it WITHOUT being disrespectful to the other teams that recruited him. People were getting pissed about it – what a joke. It’s just yanking the chain on all of us grown ass adults that are hanging on every word of an 18 year old kid about his college decision, and have been for a week, or a year for that matter. No harm, just good fun.
Sensai says do not get your hopes up on Waisome
There is always a chance though
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 18, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
now THAT
would be hilarious. (but extremely unlikely)
by NolenRyan on Aug 18, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gator fans in the live bloh were saying he is a 3star at best all of the sudden lmao
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 18, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
why wouldn't they?
they just lost a “gator-lock”. They have to justify it.
by NolenRyan on Aug 18, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just a sign of how much that fan base is twisted
if Tony Steward commits to Clemson tomorrow no one on this board will say we didn’t want him or that he was a 3 star player.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Aug 18, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My reaction if we lost Steward
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 18, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What a Douche
Typical gaytor. Seen that a million times…I would love to see a video of this kid getting his blocked knocked off.
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 18, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here's mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_YHV5fdUiQ
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
by CornNole on Aug 19, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
hah.
I hate lost; thats awesome.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
by harper.rb on Aug 19, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, i love how he just stands there for like 15 seconds after the FG
looking like kettle just about to boil over….
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
by harper.rb on Aug 19, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Steward, Drew, O'Leary
what’s a realistic NC run timeline w/ or w/out these guys…
I Believe in Jimbo
by Nole954 on Aug 18, 2010 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I am pumped for 2012.
EJ’s senior year. We’ll have nothing but solid classes on board at that point, with or without those three guys. Doesn’t guarantee an NC run, but I do think we will be a beastly team from 2011 going forward into the future.
by Nole2005 on Aug 18, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 not to mention the Gates are back in Doak that year. Setting up for NC run nicely imo
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 19, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nah, all Seminole championships are paved THROUGH Gainesville.
by arrdub on Aug 19, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for accuracy
"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett
by The Ryno and I Know on Aug 19, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I say with these guys and our current class
with the right breaks, 2011 is not too early to be discussing a run at it.
The O will return 8 starters (EJ replaces Ponder, a prospect that isn’t nearly as scary after seeing some of the things EJ did late last season and the two vacated O-Line spots will be filled by guys who have been in the program for several years, the C will likely be a Sr) and the D will be two years into the transformation (for the large leaps programs have taken over the years this is the year where the major change seems to typically occur), we will return 7 starters (losing the entire starting LB corp but replacing them with CJones, Luc and some combination of Williams, Smith and Terrell. Markus White will be gone but in his place will be both Dan Hicks and The German (who could easily weigh almost 290 by then).
I say starting in 2011 we should be looking pretty solid. But by 2012 there are no excuses.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Aug 19, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That 2011 game in the swamp will be a great game. Brantley as a senior vs EJ as a junior
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 19, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ya if that game wasn't in the swamp, I'd be fairly confident about that season.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Aug 19, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
last time we beat them was in the swamp
by MKE Nole on Aug 19, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn't mean that that is the most likely locale for a victory
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I saw the german today in the post office... kid is enormous
by LaXXPlaya91 on Aug 19, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes he is
Fatponder
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 19, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought Werner was already up to 290.... no?
by NoleLaw on Aug 19, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think 280
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 19, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not at all
It’s a joke we came up with after somebody called coach Hudson “fat Dilfer” because he looks like a 250lb Trent Dilfer
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 20, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
(and Werner is a dead ringer for Ponder. Scarily so)
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 20, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Newberry,dont know
After reading him say that florida has not called him since he skipped out on fnl.He still taking an offical visit there.Is he begging or what?
by seminole4 on Aug 18, 2010 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
These kids just like to travel. A lot of them have never been out of their city or state.
I would not read too much into it. Maybe he wants to see why it is called Hogtown? Gainesville visits can only help us. I mean who would want to spend 4 years there? lol
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 19, 2010 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
5* OT La-El Collins wants an official visit to FSU
per ESPNU… think this is an insider post but…. LINK
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
by TLHWG on Aug 18, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Get him on campus and you never know
I would love to get Clowney on a visit too
by fsu1510 on Aug 18, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tremendous player. Tremendous.
Better than Bobby Hart imo.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 19, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
unfortunately he is better than Hart
Too bad I don’t think we have a snowball’s chance…
by Nole2005 on Aug 19, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sweet! Wilder and Williams need to put on their FSU recruiting cap.
Come on down La-El. I think you will like to play for Coach Trickett
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 19, 2010 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would we offer
Cris Carter’s son or Nu’Keese Richardson?? Both are playing at the same CC this year.
No fat chicks
by Volstud on Aug 19, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Have to see how they do at JUCO
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 19, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't care if NuKeese made straight A's and became a priest.
Keep that kid as far away as possible.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
eff NewKeys
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 19, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought Carter's son went to Ohio St?
did something happen?
by fsu44 on Aug 19, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nevermind, got unlazy and googled the answer
left for academic reasons
by fsu44 on Aug 19, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
5* RB Malcolm Brown commits to Texas.
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 19, 2010 7:09 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
FSU has 2 of the nations top 10 recruits (per Max Preps) Wilder #1 & Williams #9
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 19, 2010 7:11 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
weird that steward isn't on that list.
by B-rod24 on Aug 19, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He will be. It is still early in the evaluating process
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 19, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn't matter how early it is, Steward is a can't-miss
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 19, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now that rb is wrapped up for 2011 with Wilder signed,
has anyone heard anything about another former NFL running back whose kid is a stud……2012 recruit Barry Sanders Jr.? He currently lives in Oklahoma and obviously could land in-state, but he has mentioned he would like an offer from FSU a few times over the summer. This kid can play and if he is half of what his Dad was then he is going to be a beast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu9Q04L4a7k
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
by 1newplayer on Aug 19, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think his last update somewhere
didn’t have FSU in it. Long ways for him obviously, but most think OkState will be him playing home.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
by harper.rb on Aug 19, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm I've seen a few times him mention FSU
here’s a link to an article posted less than a month ago. Either ways I like this kid and haven’t heard much about him. Just like Wilder he comes from an NFL running back father and I will be following this kid closely to see how he does this season.
http://www.volnation.com/2010/07/27/2012-barry-sanders-jr-up-to-7-verbal-offers/
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
by 1newplayer on Aug 19, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hadnt seen that, Thanks
" FSU has Jimbo as a new coach down there. I want to see how they do." I think it says it all right there.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
by harper.rb on Aug 19, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, duped your quote.
But I think the “I’ve been paying attention already” line is a key element.
by arrdub on Aug 19, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
np. Yours has a nice box that makes it stand out.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
by harper.rb on Aug 19, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, fantastic.
I want a school that will compete for a championship year after year. Good facilities would be nice. I want a program with a strong tradition. FSU has Jimbo as a new coach down there. I want to see how they do. I’ve been paying attention already. I’ve also had my eye on Oregon, they are growing rapidly. I’ve gotten a questionnaire, but not a lot of contact."
- Barry Sanders, Jr.
by arrdub on Aug 19, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you can also make use of the preview function before you post.
It will allow you to combine multiple features into your posts.
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
by Caveman Mafia on Aug 22, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
my biggest pet peeve in recruiting
Now that rb is wrapped up for 2011 with Wilder signed
He’s committed not signed.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
by RishiM on Aug 20, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Willis leaving UNC
Apparently going out to the left coast. Sometimes the misses are as important as the gets.
by osceolafan2.0 on Aug 19, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Willis, eh
I am still bummed about Corey Miller though.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 19, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any word on Newberry?
I keep hearing people say he’s a silent commit to FSU. Somebody on here was winking all over the place that his “sources” said he was Nole all the way. Just wondering how true any of this is.
by Jtyler998 on Aug 19, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
We're quite confident it's a matter of when, and not if
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 19, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any other big targets we're feeling confident about?
Seems like if we snag the likes of Drew, O’Leary and Steward, plus any of the less-heralded guys on our board…we could make a run at top class this year.
by Jtyler998 on Aug 19, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Newberry is as good as signed.
UF dropped the ball on him.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
by 1newplayer on Aug 19, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No. FSU will be in a big fight for those three
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 19, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ruben Carter is ours
he’s starting to get noticed a lot more, high ceiling kid.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 19, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Had to give a rebel indian yell when I heard bout Wilder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn8EQ0azXpQ
No fat chicks
by Volstud on Aug 19, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"I try not to smile because I got my teeth knocked out by a chainsaw"
awesome
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
by harper.rb on Aug 19, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rivals class rankings
Does anyone know when the first ranking comes out?
by reznik1979 on Aug 19, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Anyone know anything about O'Leary?
I know he is quiet but wow I havent heard anything on his favorite or where he is leaning
by fsu1510 on Aug 19, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nole fan.
I think it comes down to how both teams perform this season with FSU having the tie breaker.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
Thought he was actually a Miami fan but likes our coaches more at the moment and also has us just a tad higher on his list for now.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
Hm, you could be correct, I do know his Uncle Steve Nicklaus played for FSU
maybe I got the two mixed up and assumed one.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
He may have just watched Miami more growing up but isn't a true fan in the sense that you and I are.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
Be sure to tell him
that is old UM, not current UM.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
additional recruits I want
We have 15, 3 RB’s, one is injured, do we still sign, greyshirt?
We 4 DB’s apparently, the CB’s we have already are doing well, so I feel 4 is all we need.
I still want 1 more QB Jacoby Brissett if we could. 1 TE either O’Leary or Fulse.
1 LB Tony Steward. 2 OL Erin Joe, Ruben Carter. 3 DE Ray Drew, Giorgio Newberry, Jermauria Rasco. ! DT Terry Bell. That would be nine more making 24.
Two LB, imo.
Not sure we take 2 QB but Brissett is a good 2nd one to take. Completely agree with everything else.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
You can probably pencil in Ruben Carter
http://www.volnation.com/2010/07/29/fsu-on-top-for-fl-ol-carter-vols-right-behind-them/
"FSU is number one right now. I love coach Trickett. I went to a camp up there and learned more in an hour and a half than I’ve learned my whole high school career. They offered me at the camp. I like the staff, I love Jimbo Fisher he seems really down to earth. I have a good relationship with coach Coley, he played under my high school coach and we talk every day. He said that nobody is going to recruit me harder than he will. I think I’m heading back up there next weekend again. August 5th-6th I might be back in Tallahassee. I’m thinking if I visit I may commit there after my visit. They are my clear leader. I also talk to Bobby Hart at least twice a week."
Bring back Peter Tom Willis
Ann say hello to the grand kids
we have :)
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 19, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
What does he project as?
Interior → OG/C? or Tackle?
I’m guessing OG at 6’4", but haven’t heard a lot either way.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Hmmm I thought Miami would be the team to beat for him..
The Gates might get a WR class like we did last year. Ja’Jaun is up in the air to say the least though. Did they pull his offer for the felony? With our great recruiters, I think we have an outside shot at Kelvin B. Figured with Fortson out we might try to go after him a lot harder since we had another scholly open up. I know he wasn’t on our radar a while back.
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
interesting quote
Miami has once again regained it’s #1 spot in the state
And when I say interesting I mean retarded.
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
by Caveman Mafia on Aug 20, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Why are they always suspect of Hester down there?
There is always some inference that he is overtly steering every kid to FSU at any cost. But they are never suspicious of any other coach…ahem, Dwyer. The irony is that the blatant homerism in reporting news is the very thing they continuously imply Hester is doing…using your influence for selfish reasons.
by TampaLawNole on Aug 20, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions
Right now we have
QB
RB
RB
RB
WR
OL
OL
OL
DL
DL
LB
DB
DB
DB
DB
That’s 15. I think we take 25. So where does 25 come from?
No doubt FSU will take
OL
2 DL
LB
That’s 19. Then I think there are options
QB (if Brissett)
WR
TE
OL
DL (maybe 2 more)
LB (perhaps 2 more if one is a JUCO)
DB
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
Who are the most likely Def. Ends?
I have read that Chickillo will most likely be at UM (family I think), We are behind for Drew, and this is the one position that we have really lacked a playmaker for a couple of years. Who else are we realistically looking at?
Not sure why people say we are behind for Drew
Drew is playing games and not giving anyone straight answers.
Nobody FSU brings in will be playing in 2011, even Ray Drew.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 20, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Drew is playing this out, enjoying his time.
Reminds me of Christian Jones last year. He had me nervous at times though.
So you can run and tell that, homeboy.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Aug 20, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You think he ends up at FSU?
I am just going by what I have been reading. How are we looking for Rasco? I know Newberry is probably going to be a Nole.
I'm saying he hasn't said anything of substance to anybody
Rasco is Texas’ if they want him. If not, FSU has a shot.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 20, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
After missing on 2 DENDS last year. Ferg & Lem, with Cummings moving over to DT...
The Germanator is getting huge (maybe DT by his sophomore year?) We have to hit the mark on DEND this year imo. Yes we will have a great class but missed on our greatest need if we do not get 2 of our 3 targets at DEND.
Drew is a must. With either Newberry or Rasco. Lynch was once an FSU lean, is now a Domer commit. We told FSU lean Ricardo Williams to look elsewhere and he is committed to UCF now. Which leads me to think that Jimbo & Co are confident with Drew & Newberry. Also, I think we are the team to beat for DEND Mario Edwards Jr. in 2012.
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Just because a guy committed to ND early doesn't mean he won't switch
There is a ways to go from now until mid-December and with some of the kids we’re pulling, the positive press coverage, and hopefully a couple of wins guys can change. I don’t expect our coaches to let up on too many kids regardless of whether they’ve committed to FSU or another school. Consistency and performance to the end.
Re Lynch
Didn’t you hear that Lynch’s mom sprinkled the cremated remains of Aaron’s grandfather at various places around campus? Doesn’t sound like he’ll de-commit (although I wish he would). STORY LINK
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
I thought I read on Rivals' message board
that he might not qualify for ND academically.
Anyone heard this?
That's pretty messed up IMO
Pretty dadgum creepy!
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
ItaliaNole A.K.A. SavvysNole
A couple of pretty well-connected recruiting guys think that FSU still has a very good shot at Lynch
Even though he’s committed to ND.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Like that would ever happen
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 22, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
in the same class?
highly doubt that. But I could see 3 of the 4 if FSU does well this year. I wish Newberry would go public already.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 22, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Look how big LSU was at end in 2002
Werner isn’t moving. Drew certainly is not a must.
FSU returns
JR Jenkins
RsJr Stephens
RsSo Hicks
So Werner
and you’l see Cummings or Dawk get some time at flex as well. FSU is going to be quite good on the DL in 2011. The problem isn’t talent it’s time.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 21, 2010 2:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
What JUCO LB's could we go after?
SCALP'EM
2010 New Beginning in Tallahassee
Ponder for Heisman'10
RIP John Wooden
WILDER'S WALL
We have had trouble recruiting highly regarded Offensive lineman, maybe we should come up with some advertising, come join us forming the WILDER WALL.
Bobby Hart disagrees with your statement
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
by Caveman Mafia on Aug 20, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
"Championship"
- Bobby Hart
So you can run and tell that, homeboy.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Aug 20, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Highly regarded is in the eye of the beholder
It is difficult to gauge lineman. Many lineman or 6-5, 6-6. What separates the good from the bad is attitude, dedication and heart. Trickett is good at spotting that among lineman nobody else notices. Sometimes you find it in a four star, Sanders etc. Sometimes with a three star like Datko or Hudson, two guys not everyone was rushing to sign.
If Trickett is going to take a second look at you, being mean is a prerequisite.
Bring back Peter Tom Willis
Ann say hello to the grand kids
FSU trailing UF for Benjamin
"I think he’s leaning toward Florida right now, believe it or not. He’s up there a lot. Miami’s just down the road and I know he hasn’t been there much — if any. The only time he went to Florida State was when we had the 7-on-7 (event). So I think it’s Florida."
If he does go to UF at least we will have some Corners/Safeties that could keep up with his height.
No fat chicks
surprised?
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 20, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilder's Tanks
I think tanks might better describe what we need, we need people to clear the way.
Really hope we land this kid
Can make an immediate impact, I have seen him play he has a mean attitude on the field
He is a JUCO guard, though
there’s a chance he could be in the 2-deep
Florida State Seminoles
by basbalstr101 on Aug 20, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Listed at 6'4, 320
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 20, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He's truly a beast
Reminds me of the Seantrel’s dominance, driving DL downfield. Don’t know about the level of the competition though.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
He physically looks very unimpressive
Most of that 320 is in the belly rather than the upper and lower body. He looks like he desperately needs Viloria. Although I’ve never seen his game film.
Will there be any scouting reports posted on the big board for Ruben Carter and Arrington Jenkins?
Been hearing a lot about these two lately. Seems like there’s mutual interest. Would like to learn more about them.
Carter is close to being a lock
his stock is rising. Could play DL or OL, FSU likes him at OL. This season will be very telling on him, we expect him in this class.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 20, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yes. Probably afte Oklahoma week.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 21, 2010 2:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Carter is one that might make this class.
Jenkins on the other hand is a bit of a gamble. His grades could become an issue and whether or not he can even qualify remains to be seen. Better prospects out there at Jenkins position in my opinion.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
Bah meant as a response to 504Nole
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
Why so high on Carter?
assuming that by “make” you meant “will make this a nice class” and not “sign”.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Carter will improve by leaps and bounds
under Trickett’s direction. I’m not that “high” on him, I just think he lands in this class. Jenkins doesn’t in my opinion.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
DL that can play OL
Defensive Lineman that can play OL, if they are not quick enough to play defense, etc
That way you always have to many DL and you convert them to OL if they can’t make. I like this because it is harder to find DL (usually due to grades, injury etc). OL are usually the smartest group on the team
Steward article on ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=5479238
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Antonio McCloud? Is that Amp's Cuban twin?
by TampaLawNole on Aug 21, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
HEY guys we need somemore people to do the recruiting draft next saturday at 6 Whos in?????
we do the 1st 11 rounds next saturday and then proably the next 11 rounds sunday of next week
SCALP'EM
2010 New Beginning in Tallahassee
Ponder for Heisman'10
RIP John Wooden
ya defientley it is next Sat. at 6 ET the 1st 11 rounds what offense and defense types do u want?
SCALP'EM
2010 New Beginning in Tallahassee
Ponder for Heisman'10
RIP John Wooden
Post Wilder
I’ve heard it said that Coach Fisher’s phone was blowing up with calls from recruits, Do we know who?
by rspknole1 on Aug 22, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
there were a few names but 2 I remember are
Fulse and Jernigan
by tdchrisdavis on Aug 23, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
THIS
I want to know who as well?! Bud??? Nolethur&thru? Anybody know?
I am not sure who has recently called Fisher
but I can pretty much guarantee you that any kid remotely interested in FSU for the next 3 years took notice when JWJ chose FSU.
That said, JWJ’s commitment does not mean that every remaining kid we get will be a 5/4 star or that all of the top prospects are now seriously considering FSU. It does help to get that kind of publicity and it very well may be a tipping point for some of the guys on the fence, but it doesn’t mean FSU now leads for each of our targets (like some Noles would lead you to believe right now). Tempered optimism folks.
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Aug 22, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait a minute...
You mean that JWJ’s commitment doesn’t automatically mean that we’re going to land every other elite target with ease?
That’s NOT how they told me it works.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Come on guys who want to draft?
SCALP'EM
2010 New Beginning in Tallahassee
Ponder for Heisman'10
RIP John Wooden
Jadeveon Clowney
He would make my day, of course, I have don’t have a clue of how to pronounce his name, but there are worse things learn. His stats are unbelievable.
Best recruit in forever
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
Per TheRinger
Texas has offered Rasco which makes them (Not LSU) the probable favorite
by westcoastnolefan on Aug 22, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions
noooo!
I was hoping that they wouldn’t offer
by fsufrenzy911 on Aug 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Per Tharinger (twitter)
Hearing #Florida State has pulled into very good position with Evangel (La.) DE Jermauria Rasco. #LSU #Texas #Bama #Auburn
On Rasco, from a great Texas connect
For a long time, I thought that Texas was finished with Rasco because of the overall depth at the position in the program and because the class is almost full now. Missing out on AS-J after it looked for months like he was coming keeps another spot open, increasing the odds that there will be room for Rasco, who could end up being the last commitment in the class. The other players vying for that spot include Aaron Green, the San Antonio running back who has talked about playing with Malcolm Brown in college and possibly a defensive back like Charles Jackson if the coaches decide that they need another DB in the group, which seems unlikely right now.
Everything has sounded positive on Rasco recently, and, as mentioned above, there are some connections — Evangel has sent some players to Texas in the past, including Will Russ last season and it helps to have a former Horn on the coaching staff, though Geiggar is not the head coach. Then there is the possibility of his mom moving to Houston, where he has relatives already. It sounds like LSU is kind of fading for whatever reason and that Florida State is in good shape, but hard to say about any leaders because Rasco refuses to name any, which I think is probably a good decision on his part, particularly if he really isn’t sure right now.
I think Texas does want him at end, though he would probably see some time at the stand-up Buck position. Either that doesn’t bother him or the coaches haven’t spoken with him much about it because Alabama wanting him for a similar position in their 3-4 scheme didn’t sit well with him and he had a terrible experience playing linebacker in a 7-on-7 event that probably permanently soured him on the position.
Horncasting sums up the defensive end position in 2011 pretty well and I would only add that Reed is a guy who could probably play some three tech or 3-4 defensive end when he gets done growing into his body, so he may well not ever be a guy in the Texas program who comes off the edge. There is also a linebacker commit, Kendall Thompson, who could end up being big enough to play in the Buck position as an edge rusher and Steve Edmond could as well, though I personally think that is less likely. Basically, Texas is stacked at the position even though it’s technically just Reed at DE in 2011 and though it hasn’t scared Rasco off yet, it’s probably occurred to him that there is going to be serious competition there if he decides to come to Texas.
Rasco would be the only true DE in Texas’ class
With Reed being a DE/DT hybrid and Thompson LB/DE hybrid.
His main competition would likely come from Alex Okafor (true soph), Jackson Jeffcoat (true fr) and Reggie Wilson (true fr). The other DE’s from the previous 2 classes have already been moved to either DT (Mims/Daniels) or TE (Jones). There are three super-elite guys there.
http://www.burntorangenation.com/2010/8/19/1632848/jermauria-rasco-will-texas-have?login=1282503734
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
Tomahawk Nation: Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!
Follow Tomahawk Nation's Twitter feed!
by Bud Elliott on Aug 22, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Bud
Just don;t understand with the leite underclassmen in front of him why FSU wouldn’t be his favorite. He can come in here right away and be in the rotation
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 22, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
New thread. Please rec.
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2010/8/23/1637413/2011-recruiting-discussion-thread-9
17 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
SHOP THE TOMAHAWK NATION STORE
