Florida State Football News and Practice Report for 8/14/10
The FSU football team practiced in shells only for just under 2 hours on Saturday, to try to correct some of the issues from Friday's scrimmage.
``We had a good day. Corrected the mistakes we had, as far as going over some things,'' Coach Fisher said. ``The attitude was good. Guys came back out here and worked, ran, we didn't do a lot of hitting but worked on seven-on-seven, worked on different situations, special teams.''
``It was good practice defensively, Coach Stoops was happy with it,'' Nigel Bradham said after Friday's scrimmage. ``We feel like we made some plays, we made some mistakes, got in the film room and came out today and did the correction period and went over all that.''
Today, there will be a team meeting in the morning, then chapel, but there will be no practice and the players will have their first day off in 8 days. On Monday, the team will practice twice, with the first practice starting at 9:15 AM.
``They need a day,'' Fisher said. ``And we'll get some good film work and be ready on Monday.''
FSU Special Teams Have Ability To Change Games
It was back to the practice field Saturday afternoon for the Florida State football team, where the focus was on correcting mistakes from Friday's scrimmage and individual improvement.
"We had a good day," FSU coach Jimbo Fisher said, after cutting the workout short by about 15 minutes.
Fisher was not pleased with the performance of the Seminoles' offense during Friday's scrimmage, but did heap praise on the defense.
"Things are never as bad as they seem, and they're never as good as they seem," said Fisher. "It (was) just a matter of taking care of the football. We put the ball on the ground a couple of times yesterday. And it's making plays with it. The defense made some good plays and we did some good things (on offense), too...
"Generally right now, you're defense is usually ahead of your offense, even though people say we have an experienced offense. But I've been telling people we're pretty good on defense. We've got a first group that's pretty daggone good and they're understanding, they're playing hard and we've done a pretty good job coaching them."
The same can be said of FSU's special teams unit, under the direction of coordinator Eddie Gran. Fisher has repeatedly said since spring practice that he expects the Seminoles to be very good on the special teams units and that group did not disappoint during Friday's scrimmage.
Punter Shawn Powell continues to impress with his strong leg and improved hang time. Kicker Dustin Hopkinsconverted a pair of field goal attempts and boomed a pair kickoffs, high and deep. And while the `Noles did not do any live return work, they have a known commodity there in sophomore Greg Reid, who led the nation in punt returns in 2009.
"I like our kickers," said Fisher. "Hopkins has good range on kickoffs and field goals. Shan has a great leg. We've got athletic guys that can cover. At long snapper we've got three guys battling (Chris Revell, Dax Dellenbach and Philip Doumar) who are doing a good job, and we've got great return guys. Greg Reid is one of the best guys in the country. In terms of where you start on offense and defense, the field position can make a huge difference."
Powell is capable of changing the field position game quickly with his powerful right leg and improved hang time. During Friday's scrimmage he routinely booted the ball in the 45-50 yard range with hang times approaching five seconds.
"We had a team meeting earlier," Powell said after Saturday's practice. "(Coach Gran) called out the distances and hang times. All of them were around 4.7 to 4.8, so he was really excited about it."
According to Powell, those averages are about a full second better than a year ago, when he still managed to rank as the ACC's No. 2 punter in league competition.
"My goal is to keep it up there," said Powell. "Every punt, I go out there I want it to be 40-55 yards and over a 4.0"
Gran places a premium on precision execution from his specialty units and isn't skimping when it comes to personnel at his disposal. Veteran starters like Nigel Bradham, Jermaine Thomas and Ochuko Jenije - all of whom are among the team's best athletes - are vying for starting roles on special teams units.
"Special teams have a big impact on games," said Bradham, the team's leading tackler last season, who is working with the starters on the punt and kickoff returns units. "We know we can win at least four games on special teams. When you've got great returners like Greg Reid, Lamarcus (Joyner) and Bert Reed, any chance we get we know they can score a touchdown. ... We've got a great kicker and a great punter."
In short, Fisher and Gran have the Seminoles buying into the idea to the team concept.
"Sometimes it's not a matter of how far you kick it but how far you have to go to make a tackle down there," Fisher said. "That's a team concept. That's not a selfish thing and Shan's buying into that. His leg is strong and he can be a weapon for us."
Hopkins, whose 24 touchbacks ranked fourth nationally last season as freshman, is also focusing on improved hang time with his kickoffs. Likewise, he feels as if he has improved his leg strength for longer field goal attempts, after going 8 of 14 from beyond 40 yards.
Like Powell, Hopkins has high praise for Gran.
"He's a perfectionist on everything," Hopkins said. "He takes things to a new level. He doesn't want to be good. He wants to be great."
With teammates like Powell and Reid setting the bar with their special teams excellence, Hopkins has plenty motivation.
"If I can keep up with those two guys I think we're going to be in really good shape," he said.
Noteworthy:
The Seminoles will get their first practice day off since camp began Sunday, which is a welcome relief for the players. "They're banged and bruised, but their attitude is good," said Fisher. "They come out with smiles on their faces. If we told them they have to practice tomorrow they'd do it. They need to get some film work in."...Starting offensive linemenAndrew Datko, David Spurlock and Ryan McMahon did not practice, but worked on conditioning during Saturday's practice. They are expected back on the field as early as Monday...Fisher said having a few linemen banged up has helped assess the progress of the reserves like Garrett Faircloth, Blake Snider, Bryan Stork, Rhonne Sanderson and Henry Orelus. "Those guys are stronger, bigger and they understand what they're doing more. It's a blessing, even though it's frustrating when some of your guys are banged up."...The Seminoles are scheduled for a two-a-day session Monday with the first practice walk-through beginning at 9:15 a.m.
Courtesy of FSU SID
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Meh.
I’m mostly excited to hear what players have to say, particularly on putting weight on and all that. Jimbo’s commentary can be fun, but I can’t believe anything the coaches say at this stage, good or bad.
F'shizzle.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
I think Jimbo is more straightforward than most.
And I really like his comments about the defense.
Go back to last year. I don’t recall a single positive scrimmage report for the defense.
Last year's reports don't mean this year's are 100% accurate.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
It's not an issue of being straightforward.
Jimbo doesn’t have much incentive to tell the truth.
by Drew J Jones on Aug 16, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
No argument, but at the same time, it's not in his best interest to raise expectations by exaggerating or painting a rosier picture than reality.
IMAO, I think he is pretty much telling it like it is, but I could be wrong and it would not be the first or last time.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Aug 16, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for common sense.
No faster train out of T-town right now than promising world-beaters and delivering ’09 Defense v. 2.0.
I think if he thought our defense was going to be awful again he would emphasize the room for growth to external audiences (to paint the deficiencies nicely). Internally, he might be build players’ confidence by blowing smoke, but it makes ZERO PR sense to fuel unrealistic expectations.
Could be.
But that’s basically what I mean: He wants to keep expectations reasonable, and presumably he’d like the chance for teams to underestimate us. I think the incentive is more there for him to say we look bad. Motivation enters into it, too.
But I could be wrong.
by Drew J Jones on Aug 16, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
WOULD THE SEASON KICK OFF ALREADY!!!!`
These next 3 weeks are not gonna go by fast enough!!!!
He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!
by gonolesrolltide on Aug 15, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
After reading about the sloppiness at the scrimmage
I am in no hurry for the season to kick off.
How sloppy was it?
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
"But I've been telling people we're pretty good on defense."
believe it baby!!!
Bert Reed's Interview is Great
They probably kept him too long, but he handled that well too. He comes across as a thoughtful, maturing young man, but one who is still full of youthful enthusiasm and excited about the new direction of the program.
He did outstanding in my opinion
I agree it was a little long, but he seems like a great, passionate Seminole. I’m proud of you Bert!
Bert's interview...
what a great young man. Definitely worth the watch. Thanks for sharing it. I loved the part where he asked the reporters what satisfaction they get from their jobs.
What are the size differences of Joyner and Reid?
Joyner looks tiny in pads, Reid never looked so small and I thought they were similar heights.
side note
congrats on the shout out by the nytimes you folks deserve it here is the quote
Where do Florida State fans congregate? Warchant.com and Nole Digest house the two largest and most dedicated message boards for F.S.U. chatter, but the best football coverage is found at Tomahawk Nation.
any way back to football
by Mr.Wolf on Aug 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Got a link to that?
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
Think someone posted that on here awhile back.
Surprising they knew that.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
I agree that TN is good
For a free site…I’m not ready to anoint them over the pay sites juuuuuust yet.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
I'm not going to try to defend TN over the pay sites, because I have never paid for a subscription, not that I can't afford it because that's far from the truth, although I do check out their site occasionally to see what they are writing about. However,
if you are like me and not into recruiting, I see no use for the pay sites. While they do have credentials and access, there is absolutely nothing I have ever seen on their front page that has ever made me even want to soak them for a free trail. Again, I don’t know about the recruiting part because that does nothing for me, but from what I am told, our recruiting guys here do an excellent job and are as knowledgeable about the prospects as anyone out there.
From what I can tell, the pay sites offer little analysis, and they don’t have any inside track on anything that can’t be found elsewhere. If I am wrong, someone please set me straight and maybe I will try it, but I am already always being lectured that I spend too much time on the Noles and Phins.
>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
I paid for Warchant for one FB season...
It didn’t really blow me away all that much and frankly not worth the money at all, I don’t really follow recruiting which is a big part of the site, and now a days most of the pay info can be found from the seminoles.com site for practice reports and videos, and game analysis can be found numerous places, with other free resources like AC’s chopping block and TN, i don’t really see how they stay in business.
Only resource I was disappointed losing was The Democrat’s and Ira’s articles, but as much as I like his stuff, no way in hell I pay to read TDO online, I don’t even stop there anymore period since everything is pay. They’ll regret that before long.
I agree that losing the Democrat hurt some. Ira and Corey were decent, but there was too much time between post.
Speaking of the NoleSports, I clicked on the other day and noticed they now have 2 more blog writers on the site besides Ira and Corey. They added Forrest Conoly who played Tackle (92-95) and was on the 93 NC team. They also added George Henshaw, who came with Bobby in 1976 and coached the DL for 3 years, then became the Offensive Coordinator until he left after the 82 season. He has also coached in the pro’s for many teams. His son Matt played TE for FSU from 2002-2005.
The TD is pulling out all stops to try to make this subscription thing work, but like you, they won’t get my money.
You can read George Henshaw’s first blog post from NoleSports for free here.
http://www.floridatoday.com/article/CD/20100804/FSU03/100804018/George-Henshaw-blog-Preseason-chance-to-see-what-new-players-can-do
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Wasn't he a candidate for the OC spot when we got Jimbo???
Coaching the Titans OL or something like that? What happened?
It's possible, I don't remember/know, but I would not be surprised since he is a friend of Bobby's.
I do know he was with the Titans and then with the Saints, and I’m pretty sure he finished his career with NO in 2008.
>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Sounds like Powell continues to improve...
I was impressed with his punts at the Spring Game. It’s hard to fill Graham Gano’s shoes, but it sounds like Powell/Hopkins will be reliable weapons this season.
Very nice screen name.
Agreed. The combo could be better than Graham.
And I’m a huge Graham fan…Pensacola’s finest.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
I wish
the FSU SID could do a little better job at names and grammar. I hate to look second rate at this stuff.
I noticed this, too. Seems like this was a problem last year...
“Generally right now, you’re defense is usually ahead of your offense,
Honestly, if you are going to be the sole source of news from FSU practice, please try to at least proofread your stuff. No one will beat you to the story, because no one else saw it. This should have been written Friday, proofed by 5 staffers, and approved by Jimbo.
Shan Powell says what?
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."

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