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FSU Practice Report 08.26.10

Bert Reed warms up before practice.  It's a good sign for the 'Noles that the leading receiver from 2009 isn't even starting.

Fisher led off with some fluff about Samford, which is actually a decent 1-AA team.

Andrew Carter with a nice quote from Fisher about Willie Haulstead who apparently is starting:

-Speaking of Reed, Fisher downplayed the fact that he's not starting. Fisher said, "It ain't nothing Bert's doing wrong, guys. Willie Haulstead is a big, good player. You've got to play ‘em all. I mean, you guys act like a guy gets beat out ... Josh Reed [at LSU] won the Biletnikoff and never started a game as a junior. Never started one game as a junior and won the Biletnikoff Award as a senior. And still caught 80 balls as a sophomore."

With how FSU recruits the position, I am rarely worried about the receivers.  I still think 200 catches and 2600 yards from Bert Reed, Taiwan Easterling, Willie Haulstead and Rodney Smith is well within reach, no matter the order of depth chart.

Here's the quotes from the FSU press release, and my comments:

Fisher confirmed that junior receiver Taiwan Easterling has climbed ahead of sophomore Rodney Smith on the depth chart at the "Z" position. Easterling, who sat out the spring to play for the FSU baseball team, is second on the team with 65 career receptions. "He's playing good ball," said Fisher. "He's a veteran. You can move him around to different spots and different positions. He's doing a solid job."  

I mentioned this might happen in this morning's preview, and have now added the update.  No doubt Easterling will move around in three or four receiver packages.  The top four is still some order of Reed, Easterling, Smith, and Haulstead.   

FSU's defense has been raised for their significant improvement since spring practice, but Fisher said he was a bit concerned about the Seminoles' run defense. "The last two days in a row we ran the ball really good on the inside and knocked them out; had some really big plays coming out of there," he said. "They've got to tighten that up a little bit, but for the most part they've done really well. The secondary has been playing really well."

With only one upperclassman on the defensive line, the run defense is not going to be good this season.  FSU needs it to be average.

G-Reid, Joyner figure in return plan It should come as no surprise that sophomore Greg Reid, who led the nation in punt return average last season, and freshman Lamarcus Joyner will be used extensively in the return game by special teams coach Eddie Gran. "They're both dynamic; probably two of the most explosive players with the ball in their hands that we have on the team," Fisher said. "That's the greatest space you're playing in, so why don't you want to have your best players?" Now imagine how much better the two instinctive return men might be with a healthy dose of front-line players blocking in front of them, which is a significant departure from last season. "You've got to be sound and we've got a lot of good mid-skill level guys that can run with big bodies that can block," Fisher said. "We ought to have a chance to be pretty good on that unit, I would think. Hopefully we don't have to use it a lot." Allowing Gran to choose from nearly the entire roster isn't exactly an upset for Fisher. "All of the good teams I've been on, everybody played," said Fisher. "The best special teams players I was ever around in my life (were LSU's) Michael Clayton and Justin Vincent. The year we won the national championship (Clayton) was a freshman and an1,100-yard rusher and leading tackler on special teams and MVP."

I happen to think Joyner might be a better kick returner than Reid.  Still expect Reid to be the best punt return guy in the country.

Junior right guard starter David Spurlock took some contact work in practice for the first time in two weeks. "He didn't miss anything," Fisher said. "We didn't give him the whole practice but we gave him about three-quarters of it and he looked pretty good." Redshirt freshman Bryan Stork earned most of the repetitions in Spurlock's absence.  

Good to see Spurlock is back as expected.  

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Thank you ricobert

My night will be spent crying….thanks for reminding me of how awful my franchise of choice is

Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.

by Caveman Mafia on Aug 26, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

excellent memory, sir

when he was with the pirates, i believe

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Aug 26, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the same town as Sammy in the DR.

James Wilder, Jr today Kelvin Taylor tomorrow. Sorry UF!!

by Marmaduke1 on Aug 26, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roy Finch

Freshman Oklahoma running back cracked his ankle and will be out half the season. Murray will still be there however.

Bring back Peter Tom Willis
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by DocHoliday2 on Aug 26, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Does that make it

6 freshmen on the 2-deep for OU?
Or was he further down the depth chart?

by BenDNole on Aug 26, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was 3rd team apparently behind Madeu

Hope he heals up

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 26, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is our run D so poor?

DL?

Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....

by TLHWG on Aug 26, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Well we do have one of the best rushing offenses in the country

If they can just be average and get us into good leverage situations I actually think we’re well suited to defend the pass.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Aug 26, 2010 9:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Young also

James Wilder, Jr today Kelvin Taylor tomorrow. Sorry UF!!

by Marmaduke1 on Aug 26, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

But... but... but...

Surely that’s enough time to learn a brand new scheme (LOL – my apologies, A scheme) and dramatically improve our defense (to at least the top 30) and give us an easy path to a 10-2 regular season record!!!!

I stick by my 8-4 prediction/expectation, but will happily accept anything better.

by Invictus13 on Aug 27, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe we should pare down the. playbook

1 play – would be more than double from last year.

by Ponder This on Aug 27, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rs Soph
Rs Soph
Soph
Rs Frosh
true frosh
true frosh

those are our DTs.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 27, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Junior
Junior
Soph
Soph
Frosh
Frosh

Is not too bad.

Ill just blame it on the lack of weight development by previous training staffs.

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by harper.rb on Aug 27, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I admit

I kinda like thinking about it like this…

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Aug 27, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you being serious with those years or what?

Even though I realize what you’re doing, to call those the years of our DL is incredibly misleading. RS sophomores are sophomores because they’ve only had one year of game experience. RS freshmen are freshman because they’ve had as much game experience as true freshmen. And even if you want to call rs sophomores as juniors, they’re still going up against seniors and senior+one years on the OL and other teams have seniors and senior+one years on the DL.

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by tricknole on Aug 27, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Our inexperience on D-line is absolutely frightning

Regardless of how folks try to spin things. D-Mac hasn’t played any more snaps than Cummings or Erving

by westcoastnolefan on Aug 27, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the spin.

The spin makes me feel better.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Aug 27, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't the spin a DE move?

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 27, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is what they say...

haven’t seen these ‘moves’ though you speak of for FSU Dends in quite some time.

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by onebarrelrum on Aug 28, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

And AMP hasn't played in a year

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 27, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mickey Andrews on recruiting:
I don’t give a shit about any of that, just give me intensity and aggression.

We love you Mickey! Sorry you were put in such an awkward situation the past few years.

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by Nattylite on Aug 27, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

They had better toughen up

OU is rated the number seven rushing team going into this year with tailback Murray primed as a Heisman candidate. Don’t like the sound of people running up the middle of the D.

Bring back Peter Tom Willis
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by DocHoliday2 on Aug 26, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

that

plus it appears the run defense was really bad just the last two practices.

by TCHOP561 on Aug 26, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Helps that OU's OL isn't very good...

Football is played with an oblong ball. Take your roundball and GTFO...

by NaGaNole on Aug 27, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not true, they have a lot of talent,

last year they dealt with a lot of injuries. They were also very young, so combine that with the continuity problems and you will have an OL that is craptastic. I believe this year they are mostly healthy and have had a year to progress.

/disregard this is if the ellipses at the end of your statement indicates sarcasm

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by RollNole5 on Aug 27, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

2008 Seminole O line wasn't very good either

Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.

by Caveman Mafia on Aug 27, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not?

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 27, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

And with the amount of Cover-3 we'll be running

You have to assume we’ll have 8 in the box a lot, granted this is no way to live for an entire game (to be dominant you have to be able to stop the run with 7 men) but our run defense has to improve (we had 8 in the box a ton last year but with one of them being Mangum it was more like having 6 in the box).

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Aug 26, 2010 9:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I see the Bert/Willie thing to be that Bert will play more in the slot this season and Willie will do more work outside

Bert did a good job outside last season, but I think putting a guy like Willie out there is better match-up wise.

by Pre on Aug 26, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Could very well be

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 27, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Bert is a good WR, but I don’t think he plays down-field very well and I bet this is where Haulstead is making his mark. A bit small and gets pushed around. A much better Slot guy who can make tough catches.

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by harper.rb on Aug 27, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've always thought Bert is more dynamic in the slot.

Bert in the slot changes alignments because you have to respect the WR screen. There aren’t that many safeties that can keep Bert from turning the corner so you have to spread your defense out and move your safety. Plus Bert seems to have better short speed then long speed. He’s as fast as they come at 20 yds but seems to be a just fast at 40 yds. IMHO

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by CJNole on Aug 27, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

With Bret inside

I think we could see more bubbles this year. We didnt see as many last year bur if he moves in then now we have speed. give him some open space and you will get 5+ yards on a bubble. Then what happens teams move up and the outside burns them on the slant. Also I though on the smash route the inside runs a streak/ flag vs the S I would think we would want a burner there. I dont know that much about the WR pos. but that would make since to me.

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by Desman on Aug 27, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jimbo seems fairly pleased with our WR of late

Is this comparable to preseason last year?
I remember hearing he was always on the wr’s last year.

by BenDNole on Aug 26, 2010 10:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Last year he was excited about rod and richard

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 27, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Had to Red this comment...

Hilarious!
We had a gay nudie bar not far from campus at Georgia Tech called “Swingin’ Richards”. I’m not even lying. You can’t make that stuff up. It was across the street from the closest liquor store to campus so spare me the question of “Well, how did you know about it?”.

by Jmac823200 on Aug 27, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha!

OK, funny man. You were probably watching me walk into the liquor store from an “undisclosed” location…

by Jmac823200 on Aug 27, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Aug 27, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that there is anything wrong with that. As a matter of fact, most weekends you can catch me dancing with my shirt off at Ramrods or at the Manhole.

>-----:----:------>Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 27, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the KR/special teams quotes

Still believe we will see Greg Dent returning kicks at some point during his time at FSU.

We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.

by NoleThruandThru on Aug 26, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

If we didn't have Reid and Joyner, I would agree with you.

What about Green on KR team. We are loaded with guys that could put big time return yardage.

FSU football is the new case study for the outliners phenomon

by CJNole on Aug 27, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope dont see it

We have 1 great returner, 1 could be the next big thing returner and a back up no one can complain about because we know he can get it done. Why would we need to put someone else back there when we have great talent already. Unless he can beat out one of the top 2 I dont see them bothering.

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by Desman on Aug 27, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

if they can block well

we could stick them in the middle of the field to recover squib kicks

by B-rod24 on Aug 27, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree NTandT Dent is talented

at returning kicks, but Reid isn’t going anywhere and it seems that Joyner is next in line. Should be interesting though to see if eventually there is a battle between Dent and Joyner for that job.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Aug 27, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah grizz we know there are 2 returners

it just seems Reid has one locked up and Joyner has the other. However sometime throughout this year Dent and Joyner could be battling for that second spot. Sorry if my post wasn’t clear enough or if you were referring to another poster..

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Aug 27, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

this may be wishful thinking...

but does anyone think that the running game has picked up (against the defense) because of Datko, and now Spurlock, returning?

by NolenRyan on Aug 26, 2010 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Could be. But even the backups should be pretty good.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 27, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised we didn't hear more about Orleus

Always thought he had a great frame to be an awesome G. Just massive. I was hoping he’d start rolling over people when he got the chance.

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by harper.rb on Aug 27, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really have a hard time believing that since he's our backup right tackle now

He’s a a guard but I think is athletic enough to play tackle.

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by CJNole on Aug 27, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I made absolutely no comment on his level of talent

And he’s not the backup tackle. He’s behind (an un-injured) Snider and most likely Hudson, who would slide out to tackle so we could hide a backup at a more discrete interior position. Bryan Stork got a lot of reps at tackle while Datko has been out, also.

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Aug 27, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was Sanders backup on the Right Side. Isn't Faircloth starting for Datko on the other side?

I thought Stork has been stuck at Guard throughout camp.

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by CJNole on Aug 27, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they run 2 groups at the same time

If they say the O-line as a whole I think they would be talking about at the groups. not just the starters. Also like said above the o-line is one of the best in the country. I think like said above if they can just be average then I think we win 3 more games that we would have lost last season. Also they are still learning the Def.

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by Desman on Aug 27, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

How many guys will Hudson not be able to handle one on one. McMahon excels at getting to the second level and Spurlock can be mauler. We are talking about a very good middle of the line. How many teams G/C combinations would you trade ours for?

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by CJNole on Aug 27, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

So if the offense has some off days like how they stated BC game last year or J State

Does that mean other teams not being far behind will try to pound the ball on the defense? Could this year’s linebackers be good enough to make up for the lack of Dline and sneak up and snuff out runs?

by nolestuff on Aug 27, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Individual battles v. fits

Last year the defense didn’t even have fits

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 27, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dont look into this so much.

The D-line is not going to be last years line. The Def seems to be working as a unit more this year than last where we had 4 people on Def and the rest were just there. Again This Def is running agesnt one of the best offensive minds in JF, the have to learn a total dif scheme and one of the best overall offences in the country. They are not getting destroyed out there so that means to me they are a lot better than last year and are going to be good this year. (I HOPE) And the best thing is Cuck the Clown and the x-DE coach (never learned his name) are not there so I think that raises the Def at least 20% from alst year.

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by Desman on Aug 27, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fisher talks fast

""All of the good teams I’ve been on, everybody played," said Fisher. “The best special teams players I was ever around in my life (were LSU’s) Michael Clayton and Justin Vincent. The year we won the national championship (Clayton) was a freshman and an1,100-yard rusher and leading tackler on special teams and MVP.”

In this quote, I believe his is talking about 2 players in the last sentence. One being MC, and " an1,100-yard rusher and leading tackler on special teams and MVP," which would be Vincent.

Also, Just a comment : Willie must be a better blocker for this move too. We are going to run the ball this year. Pound the rock.

by LincolnHighNole on Aug 27, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

you are right. he is great for soundbites.

We need to get him to say “when it absolutely positively has to get there overnight”
In my opinion …

by Ponder This on Aug 27, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I need a TN fix

I’ve seen some stupid Bowdenite postings on another site.

by Invictus13 on Aug 27, 2010 2:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Does Reed have a knee injury?

Bring back Peter Tom Willis
Ann say hello to the grand kids

by DocHoliday2 on Aug 27, 2010 2:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Where'd you hear that

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 27, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

noooooooo

I can’t hear you!!!!

by StM on Aug 27, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shhhhhhh

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by 1newplayer on Aug 27, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that first pic Bert or Tupac?

I knew that guy faked his own death! He was just waiting for the right time and place to resurface.

by HROB3 on Aug 27, 2010 5:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I know Bert Reed played some QB in high school

and Ive seen him warm up with the QBs on gameday, is it crazy to think we could use him in a wildcat? Ive heard rumors that Jimbo was toying with the idea. G5 is the other obvious choice

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 27, 2010 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

He threw

the two-point conversion against BC to tie it up.

by NolenRyan on Aug 27, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

good point, i forgot about that

But I’m talking about a “normal” situation, instead of a 2pt conversion

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 27, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

its probably hidden back in the playbook

I wouldn’t be surprised if we have a bunch of these plays that we’ll probably never use or only use once.

by B-rod24 on Aug 27, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think he has been sitting on some

Trick plays until BB was gone. There are lots of reasons for wanting an indoor practice.

by Ponder This on Aug 27, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking the same thing in regards to Bobby

Actually, I remember a few people here at TN saying that the former coaching staff was agaisnt some of the “new fangled wildcat trickery”

"Don't flinch, let's kill a fly with an Axe."
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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 27, 2010 11:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We ran the wildcat with Peter Warrick 10 years ago.

Don’t know why the old guard would have a problem with it now… and the offensive staff were entirely Fisher guys aside from D. Carter. So I don’t think this seems likely.

by arrdub on Aug 27, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if it's likely or not, but I'm sure if some coaches had concerns with a more predominant wildcat set and Bobby agreed, it wouldn't have been run much, if at all, the past few seasons.

Remember, there was no clear 2-4 on staff and by all accounts Fisher stuck to his role and didn’t try to incite some sort of mutiny.

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by tricknole on Aug 27, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why talk about run defense?

With as tight-lipped about some things has Jimbo has been, what’s the rationale with talking about how the defense has been weak against the run? Is this a motivational tool? A ’don’t throw me in the briar patch" deal? Maybe Bud or someone has a theory…

by The Highway's Free on Aug 27, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I kind of thought the same thing

seems weird that he’s basically telling other teams “Hey, run it up the middle, we struggle there”.

by NolenRyan on Aug 27, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or

he’s misfeeding the media and other teams intentionally…

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by ricobert1 on Aug 27, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ha!

I hope that’s the case.

Admiral Ackbar knows his stuff, though.

by NolenRyan on Aug 27, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

G5 on kickoff returns

35th in the country in kickoff return average last season, 7th best freshman average.

26 attempts/25.54 ypa.

My gut reaction was to think that G5’s style isn’t really the sort of straightline, single cut style you need in the return game, but he was pretty darn good last year. If Joyner puts up similar numbers as G5’s freshman season, lookout.

by fsu44 on Aug 27, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Reid + space = TD threat.

I agree he’s BETTER at punts, but I don’t think any environment with the ball in G5’s hands is something opposing teams should be comfortable with. (The idea of other teams kicking off to G5’s side to avoid the alternative sounds fairly ludicrous.)

by arrdub on Aug 27, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

teams are going to have to kick it short

Once Joyner is next to G5 on returns

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 27, 2010 11:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah I remember the return

that set us up for the game winning drive against Maryland – think their punter screwed up and kept it in bounds.

I told my brother in law during the WVU game that “they’re going to puck up just once and Reid’s gonna burn them big time on the return”. Right after the half he owed me a beer!

by StM on Aug 27, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at devin hester

He accelerates quickly, but also has incredible agility, while not being the fastest guy on the team. I think gr is similar.

by Ponder This on Aug 27, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Idk

I agree that hester accelerated quickly and had agility but if he wasnt the fastest on those Miami teams he had to be top two, just because on the field he was faster than anyone that was next to him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4AIF1dDiJY

by az5950 on Aug 27, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

hester has way more outright speed than greg

greg is wiggle wiggle wiggle, while hester is burst, cut, speed

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by SteadfastNole on Aug 27, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Reid doesn't have much burst iyo?

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by tricknole on Aug 27, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

G5 is like both of our Warricks rolled into one player.

Insane cutting, acceleration, and balance…. and simply unrivaled vision.

by arrdub on Aug 27, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of P-Dub

Relive in awe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjErO91Dtc

I don’t think G5 or anyone else past, present or future will be able to duplicate what P. Warrick did on the college football field. Some are faster, but when it comes to making 80,000+ hold and being a serious home run threat on EVERY play…there ya go.

I caught a glimpse of what he did to a couple opposing DBs and been a FSU fan (and now alum) ever since.

by polknole on Aug 27, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harvin and Bush were on that level IMO

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 27, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were beasts no doubt

But of the three Warrick still stands out to me. Bush and Harvin would beat you with speed first and they were their most dynamic in the open field. It seem’d like Warrick could shake you out of your jersey standing still. And it didn’t matter if he was on the sideline, LOS, endzone, playing tailback, WR, KR, PR, or even QB.

Of those three, which would you want on your dream team, all things equal, of course (i.e. Harvin w/o migranes)?

by polknole on Aug 27, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man!!!!

Peter Warrick was soooo sick back in the day. I don’t know who’s highlight is better, Warrick’s or Dunn’s. If you go back and look at Dunn’s you’ll freak at what he was capable of doing. I definitely think that had he not been in trouble he would have won the Heisman. He was a VERY dynamic player. Super-elusive! I gotta see if they have one for Charlie Ward.

by Jmac823200 on Aug 27, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Greg has better top end speed then we think

Have you ever seen him caught from behind in stride? Either GA or at FSU. The guy played in a fast league in HS and seem to put it in another gear once he was in the open field. Just like Jerry Rice and Emmitt (Beginning of his career) some guys don’t run fast 40s but play like they run 4.2.

FSU football is the new case study for the outliners phenomon

by CJNole on Aug 27, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think anyone is saying that he's not very fast

he’s just not outrun angles fast

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by SteadfastNole on Aug 27, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i entirely expect to see both joiner and reed back on punts this year as teams will do everything in their power to punt away from him.. on kickoffs i’d like to see joiner and the converted db now WR whose name eludes me right now..

by palmcitynole on Aug 27, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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