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My Take on JWJ

First of all, I'd like to say that I would rather have James Wilder Jr. committed to play for the 'Noles than ANY player in this class. Call me dumb and say Jadaveon Clowney is better or that Steward is more important, or whatever you want to say, but when I saw the Friday Night Football magazine came out, I threw up at the thought that we could strike out on the cover. Then it happened, we came out of nowhere (literally) and STOLE a recruit from UF; a feat of such magnitude that the story made the front page of YAHOO.COM. I'm not talking about Yahoo Sports, I'm talking about the main website. It also graced the front page of most, if not all recruiting and sport media outlets.

If you didn't catch the game on ESPN yesterday, Wilder's Tampa Plant high school got wamboozled and shellacked by the Hurricanes of Manatee. I mean this was not even a good football game... it looked like a JV team against a top varsity football program. The final score was 48-10 and I, without the slightest of hesitations, will tell you that if you watched the game, it seemed worse than that somehow. And then there was Wilder...

Star-divide

I might actually be the first person to tell you that I was IMPRESSED with him after watching this game. Let me explain to you why in a list format with clever starting letters/numbers/symbols:

A: He was injured. If you watched the game and didn't notice that... well I just don't understand how. He went down on a play in the second quarter and after taking a while to get up, was limping around for the rest of the game for the most part. But he is a man, in both a literal and body composition sense, and he sucked it up and played. I'm not making excuses for the kid, but when you're in on 80+% of snaps, you're bound to tweak things here or there. It's probability.

2: He's not a running back... yet. He runs upright. We get it. He's also in high school, he hasn't been 100% dedicated to running back yet, and once he puts his focus full time on training for and most importantly LEARNING the running back position from one of, if not THE best coaches for that position in the country (Eddie Gran), then he will start playing more like the wild (pun intended) expectations that everyone has for him. If you really think that Gran won't teach him 100 things that he doesn't already know now, then you're nuts.

D: I don't know if anyone else noticed, but he looked like a monster on the field, from a physically imposing standpoint. He's got the body to play right away in college, and he clearly has a football work ethic, or he wouldn't look like Adrian Peterson as a freakin 17 year old kid. He may not be the fastest player ever right now, but believe you me, once he starts training for speed in college that will change, and in large part because...

Æ: He's wasting his time right now. If he is really so dedicated to playing running back and NOT linebacker - at ALL - so as to commit to Florida State instead of his long time favorite in order to do so full-time, then we are not going to get to see the full future James Wilder Jr. yet. When I say he is wasting his time, I mean by splitting time between running back and linebacker. It takes extra energy, extra attention/focus and extra preparation to be able to play another position (on the opposite side of the ball especially), let alone well enough to get you ranked as the #3 overall player in the COUNTRY. I mean, he is and has spent at least equal, if not more time on his linebacking skills up until this point, and in order to fully harness the physical possibility that he holds, he needs to devote himself full time to the position. But the kid is such a player and so dedicated to his team, that he is doing everything he can to help them win at the cost of him not being as maximally prepared for college as possible - and let's face it, the kid is so physically dominant at 17 that he can probably afford to.

Lastly: He had 87 yards on 15 carries for an average of 5.8 yards per carry. You might say that you would expect more out of such a highly touted recruit, but let me make it clear how bad Plant was in this game. Their offensive line was about as pathetic as any line I've seen... on any level. I would venture to guess that you could take Rodney Smith, Willie Haulstead, Lonnie Pryor, Debrale Smiley and Jermaine Thomas, line them up as Plant's offensive line, and they would've done a better job - hell they couldn't have done worse. And their QB was downright miserable. I honestly felt bad for the kid, because with a line like that, he was getting POUNDED all night. He finished the night 6-21 for 153 yards and a touchdown, and if you take out the TD play in their first series, you're looking at 5-20 for 73 yards. Without a passing game to help set up the run, or at least give the defense some question as to what Plant was going to do, the run game was bound to be held in check. I mean, Manatee's players were in the backfield on every play. Having said that, Wilder still averaged nearly six a carry, and showed some flashes, converting a fourth and inches with a determined eight yard run, and making a good block to set up the screen play score in the first quarter.

For those of you that like math, here's a formula you should take into account when thinking about Wilder:

JWJ + Eddie Gran + Committed to playing RB full-time + Offensive Line + Passing Game = Special

Don't kid yourself from this one game, which really wasn't that bad. He didn't put the ball on the floor, he didn't miss blocking assignments as far as I can tell, and he didn't try to bounce everything outside and try things that weren't there. Yes, he ran upright, but he didn't hesitate and he hit the hole. It just so happened that Manatee knew this was going to happen, because Plant had nothing else going for them. Oh and if a Gator friend of yours tries to tell you about how Wilder didn't bring Blakely (likely Gator from what I've read) to the ground on that one play, en route to a long score, just feel free to remind them that they'll be having the same problem when JWJ is running over their linebackers in a year... because at that point Wilder will be a full-time RB. Get excited.

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Great Post

Agree that it is easy to pass that game off as a RB vs. RB game. It was a freakin exhibitionn game where one guy (Blakley) had everything to prove, and the other guy had to play both ways, and had nothing to prove (again, in an exhibition game).

by FSUSkot on Aug 29, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Good read

I do believe that he did have 1 fumble, but thats a moot point. Bad game for plant against a nationally ranked manatee team that showed up to play. Plant’s QB was hurt also, so that was a large factor.

Thank God for the men and women who stand tall in the night to protect this great country we love so much

by NOLEcasterWX on Aug 29, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh my bad

I did not see that fumble and I didn’t read about it afterward, good call. But indeed the point is moot, and I do believe that under the circumstances, he had a good game.

by Sem1nole on Aug 29, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

rec'd

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by Thunder64 on Aug 29, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

you jst got urself a green thumbs up

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by Thunder64 on Aug 29, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice take

The score looked bad to those of us who didn’t see the game, but your analysis of JWJ should comfort anyone who got worried.

By the way, great use of the ash (Æ) in the A2D system!

by Invictus13 on Aug 29, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

How is the score indicative of any one player's success in that game?

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by tricknole on Aug 29, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a thought...

When you’ve got a guy so highly ranked, you hear all the talk about how he dominates his competition, and he plays on both sides of the ball, I can see people who didn’t watch the game being worried that Plant got absolutely blown out of the water.

by seminoleballer on Aug 29, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it would seem like he didn't run all over them.

As Baller said above, you don’t expect a dominating player’s team to get dominated on both sides of the ball – like 48-10. A difference-maker should, well, make a difference on the HS level. It’s no big deal – I mostly just wanted to compliment Sem1nole on using the ash.

by Invictus13 on Aug 29, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know how to use the ash and I had no idea that's what it was called.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."

by tricknole on Aug 30, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Æ or æ - yeah, it's an old letter, used in Old English and the like

It actually sounds like the “a” in the word “ash,” too. So, the first syllable in the name Cædmon would sort of rhyme with “bad.” (Or the modern word “cad,” I suppose, LOL; I didn’t think of that at first). Anyway, I think it’s a cool letter.

As far as how to type it, it depends on your system (PC, Mac). You could try looking at the “insert symbols” or whatnot.

by Invictus13 on Aug 30, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

What "insert symbols"?

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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."

by tricknole on Aug 30, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, sorry. That's actually usually in Word (and not in a browser).

On a PC, try holding SHIFT + CTRL and then typing the 7(&) key followed by the A key.

On a Mac, try holding SHIFT + OPTION while hitting the APOSTROPHE (’) key.

Those should give you the Æ symbol. Since we use abbreviations like CP7 and GR5, maybe next time we have a guy whose initials are A.E. we can adopt the Ash+# abbreviation for him (e.g., Æ3).

by Invictus13 on Aug 31, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see how someone that is ranked 19th

will be our most important recruit… He hasn’t even signed his LOI and also who else has committed to FSU because he did?

No fat chicks

by Volstud on Aug 29, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

You're only giving it like 2-3 weeks before saying his commitment will have no impact on our recruiting?

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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."

by tricknole on Aug 29, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying for someone else to say he has the biggest impact

What exactly has he done for us? Filled everyone’s kool aid glasses to they overflowing??

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by Volstud on Aug 29, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree we aren't seeing the impact yet, but I will give it 5 months before making a final decision.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."

by tricknole on Aug 30, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

By "we aren't seeing" I mean the fans like you and I.

Only coaches, insiders, recruits, etc. really know what impact it’s had or hasn’t had.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."

by tricknole on Aug 30, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

Didn’t Jimbo say his phone rang off the hook after the announcement? That’s exciting.

by Invictus13 on Aug 30, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but I do believe the excitement will rub off

if we don’t look impressive against Samford (something like 52-17 or 38-7…a large spread). And we need to get someone else to pull the trigger soon (like Newberry after a big upset at OU…or after a heartbreaking loss at OU) to keep momentum high or even increase it.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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"Trick is right."
"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."

by tricknole on Aug 30, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't consider 52-17 or 38-7 impressive?

Holding ANY team to 7 points after last years debacle is impressive to me.

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman

by CornNole on Sep 1, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

how would JWJ compare

to a kid like maurice clarett? not in running style, but in terms of the impact he can have early on – or was MC just a freak situation?

by DownByTheRiverWalkinOnWater on Aug 29, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Clarett was the only decent back on OSU

FSU will already have a very good running game when JWJ comes.

Selgy

by mittens on Aug 29, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not worried about that game

A. If there was ANY tendency in him to slack off this year and rest on his laurels now that he’s out of the recruiting game (supposedly), being thrashed on national TV should take care of that. If he’s the kid we think he is, he’s going to be super-focused the rest of the year

2. This might slightly reduce the pressure we all fear that other teams will continue to put on him between now and signing day.

D. The kind of support he gets from FSU coaches and fans after this game, in contrast with the crap heaped on him from by fans of other programs, should solidify his connection with us.

by LouC on Aug 30, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Wilder

Is great, but if we Clowney were to show even more than just marginal interest then I feel that would be the steal of the year…he looks like a mix between Julus Pepper and a youg Jevon Kearse, and runs like a deer….but on anuva note Wilder did impress from the game, but I am a little concerned with his upright running style

by az5950 on Aug 30, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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