Wide Receiver Jarmon Fortson Dismissed From Florida State
by Bud Elliott on Aug 8, 2010 12:04 PM EDT
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PrintJarmon Fortson, a starting receiver for the Florida State Seminoles has been dismissed from the program, multiple sources told TomahawkNation this morning. Jimbo Fisher also confirmed the story. Sources indicated that Fortson failed a drug test and that failed test, combined with multiple attitude and behavioral problems throughout his two years in Tallahassee, led to the dismissal. This was not the result of a single failed drug test. Credit to Chuck Oliver for first tweeting this one.
There are some around the program who feel a sense of relief with the move. They think Fortson was a ticking time bomb and that he would have eventually made some bad headlines of a different sort.
Fortson caught 45 balls for 610 yards last season. The talented but troubled receiver sometimes made spectacular catches but also lacked discipline and was not dependable, often dropping balls and running the wrong routes. 6'6" 222 lb Sophomore Rodney Smith, a four-star out of Miami will replace Fortson. Smith had an impressive Spring and the coaches raved about the talented sophomore, but he will have to prove he can replace Fortson's production.
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You don't get booted for one failed drug test.
Rumors abound of domestic violence but there was never a report.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Yeah. Everyone assumes weed but I am not sure they were all weed.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Has to be more than pot.
You could probably dismiss half the student body for pot. I’m think you’re probably right about violence.
Could be a hundred times.
I think ricobert1 makes a good point that a failed drug test could be an ace in the hole if they want to throw a player out who refuses to play ball (no pun intended). But if he was worth keeping around, I’d look the other way on the kid smoking pot, personally.
College kids smoke pot. We all know that. Football players are no different.
Ya know, testing for weed might be the ace in the hole for coaches that want to sack garbage players
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Ouch, baby...very ouch?
Garbage?
Let’s say “Disciplinary Challenged”
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Sorry, wasn't making a direct reference to J-man
But you’re right, garbage is inappropriate regardless
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Oh, well then I retract my statement.
You can say that about guys on other teams. I’ll allow that.
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By the way...
…off-topic: You’re going to the practice at Doak tonight, aren’t you? What do you think the parking situation will be like?
Probably not too bad, would be my guess
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by ricobert1 on Aug 8, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow,
hadn’t heard of those rumors. wow.
I knew it had to be more than one failed drug test. I remember him being on the verge of being booted before. Just didn’t know what for.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
by onebarrelrum on Aug 8, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
What a bad couple of weeks it has been. Thankfully the receiving corps was one of the strengths of the team.
On paper
Got a bunch of talent but it is unproven now outside of Bert and Taiwan…
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 8, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
As I stated in the other thread
Fortson just threw away millions. 2 probable starters dismissed in 2 months hurts bad.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
well, nigel carr hasn't been kicked off yet, has he?
by fsufrenzy911 on Aug 8, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
EVERYONE I know considers him off once the legal process plays out.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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No.
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is the assumption that he will be dismissed after the resolution of his charges?
by paperjames on Aug 8, 2010 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not that I'm aware.
And not that I’m an insider. But it seems we’d keep him around until next spring and then if he’s still a 3rd string type player we may ask him to look to transfer to make room for younger guys. He didn’t do anything near as bad as Carr, imo (and the fact that one was arrested for multiple felonies and Ed I wasn’t seems to bear that out).
Like Bud mentioned earlier, we’ll keep Carr on the team – but suspended indefinitely – until his charges play out. We’ll likely release him regardless, but the sooner you release him the bigger hit to the NCAA APR we take. Same reason we won’t ask Ed I (or any other underperformer to leave) in the fall. You ask them to do that in the spring/summer.
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eds charges are resolved
he is practicing with the team now
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by garnetandgold on Aug 8, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Carr is done
People I know in law enforcement in Tally say Carr is done.From what they say, Fisher is just going through the official process, but he is done.
when you consider the Carr situation
the “other offenses” for Fortson had to be really severe for him to get the boot.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
His loss and Carr's makes me revise my win total for the year
Thinking that 8-4 is much more certain.
Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it!
Don't think the drop off will be significant.
I think more then anything, it hurts depth.
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Wow
It sucks to see the team lose an experienced player, but glad to see the team show they will not take this BS.
This and the Carr thing are not great news, but if these are the only bad spots I would not be too worried.
Come on
This team even makes it hard to drink the Kool Aid….
"If we get lost, we'll get pull over somewheres and ask for directions!"
by Unconquered Capital on Aug 8, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
I'm more worried big Moses Mccray.....
We NEED that depth on DL.
......and let the paramedics sort 'em out!
same here
really hoping to see him at the practice today. We’ll see.
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 8, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn this a blow for us.
Hopefully Smith and the rest of our young guys are ready to step it up. I hate to see Jarmon go, but I’m sure whatever he did wasn’t just a one time thing.
Make no mistake, Jimbo wouldn't pull the trigger if he thought he need Fortson...
Yes, he provided a tough, physical T.O. type WR, but with Reed and Easterling coming back (and looking good from reports) and the having Smith, Haulstead, Alexander, Green, and Dent in the rotation this year make this a pill easier to swallow…
Football is played with an oblong ball. Take your roundball and GTFO...
That’s an interesting take. I like it. I’m really hoping the Carr and Fortson situations are just bad timing and this isn’t an indication of how quick Jimbo’s hook will be. Our competition in Gainesville seem to really bend over backwards to avoid cutting loose a talented player, so I want the same from us.
Few people knew about Carr's drug charge just a week before the arrest for theft?
Let’s you know which player was valued more, Only difference is Carr’s last f-up wasn’t the kind you can’t sweep under the rug….
Football is played with an oblong ball. Take your roundball and GTFO...
Exactly, This could have been handled in a different way, but this was Jimbo sending a message..
At a position where he felt like he had enough depth to do so. Carr has had the same track record as Fortson, but he is still on the team…
Football is played with an oblong ball. Take your roundball and GTFO...
He's on the team until his legal process is over so FSU can drain all the APR points out of him it can get.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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I completely agree, but didn't we just lose points with Fortson when this could have been handled differently...
Something drove Jimbo to keep Carr and dismiss Fortson,..
Football is played with an oblong ball. Take your roundball and GTFO...
Two different situations...
As far as we know, Fortson has had multiple team infractions (failed tests, etc). Jimbo has firsthand knowledge of those events. Carr on the other hand has criminal charges that Jimbo doesn’t have firsthand knowledge of. I don’t think Jimbo is protecting Carr anymore than he protected Fortson until he failed his 48th drug test.
Carr is only still on the team because he can't be kicked off until his legal issue is settled.
I would not be surprised if there were other things about Carr that haven’t been made public.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Yes, as we’re hearing now we had a walking crime spree starting at wide receiver. Seemingly few people outside the team knew that though, so there was no external pressure from the media or fans to get rid of Fortson. If the team had handled this a certain way, we could have suspended Fortson for the Samford game (or even done nothing at all) and there is probably no story at all here. So in that sense, it wasn’t his 8th strike.
Now maybe Fisher feels like the internal pressure (the need to look consistent about the rules, etc.) dictated letting him go. If that’s the case I just have to trust his judgment. In general though I want us to do everything we can to avoid actually kicking a guy off.
Carr a quick hook?
He was arrested for multiple felonies. It’s university policy (read: out of Fisher’s control) to suspend any and all players until the legal process has taken its due course.
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I’m really just talking about the consensus on what will happen when his legal issues get resolved, which seems to be getting kicked off the team.
If he goes down for felonies, then it definitely wasn’t a quick hook.
If he pleads to misdemeanors and still gets kicked off the team, I would call it a quick hook. But it’s becoming clear that I’m way out of the mainstream when it comes to player discipline.
Even if it gets pleaded down
some were saying he was the primary suspect in several other car break ins and he had at least one prior arrest even before his car stuff. You’d tend to think there are a lot of other things that may have happened in school/on the team like with Fortson that we don’t know about.
Whether you agree with him getting kicked off the team or not is one thing. I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Not after his arrest record. But there’s no way you could call it a “quick hook”. That implies there were very few prior incidents, if any, and that the present incident was a minor one. None of those apply here.
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There is stuff for which he was not charged that those believe he will be booted for
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Eerily repetitive
Tanover, Moss, Coles,(almost Warrick), Parker and now Fortson. I might be missing someone. I guess it’s just in the wr’s makeup. I hope this a wake up call for this young man. He still has time to turn his life around. Two potential starters a couple of weeks before the season hurts. Hopefully, the new guys(Jimbo’s guys) will grab this opportunity and run with it.
by NoleySmokes on Aug 8, 2010 2:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry Mr Perfect
Get off my jock, CorNolio
by NoleySmokes on Aug 8, 2010 4:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All I know is...
Vamerick Tanover(lol) was in my class one semester and showed up twice. Once for mid terms and once for the finals….
by NoleySmokes on Aug 8, 2010 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Along those lines
We shouldn’t be surprised if the Gators trot out Farmon Jortson at WR next year.
His last name alone makes him their greatest legacy recruit.
Bring back Jeff Bowden...as a pińata.
by TheNole9Yards on Aug 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
With a name like that and the track record we didn't know about, it's obvious he was born to be a lizard.
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Athletes aren't the only ones who do that
Other students do that, too.
I had Deion in class one semester freshman year.
Same story. Although I was never perfect attendance as freshman either
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by pasadenanole22 on Aug 8, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Buddy of mine had him in a Coaching Football class
Said he attended but basically slept the entire time after roll was called
by Cigar City Nole on Aug 8, 2010 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Vanover
Saw him get arrested one Saturday morning walkuing through my fraternity parking lot on his way back to the fooball dorm. Apparently he’d gotten in a fight the night before at an on-campus party. I had friends on the team and they said we were lucky that Vanover made it through 2 years at FSU…
Add Fred Rouse
Heard he’s destroying the (lack of) competition at Concordia College in Alabama.
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Are you saying?
Ricky Williams should have been a WR instead of a RB?
Ricky has hands of stoned.
Never woulda worked.
by Drew J Jones on Aug 8, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but he
has the pot smoking and being a character down..though not sure he smack talks
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Fortson was in his final year so I don't see that impacing this.
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It was understood that he had a single year left, I am told
Like “you have one year then GTFO”
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Doesn't provide much incentive for him to improve, then, does it?
“GTFO by fall” even if you’re on your best behavior doesn’t make much sense to me. But hey. Thats why I’m not coaching. Trying to free up a scholly or something? Other than that, I don’t see much reason…
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There's plenty of motivation when you're making the difference between 1st round and 3rd round money.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
You're implying he would have been drafted.
And that whole “can’t really run routes with discipline” thing would have been overlooked.
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A receiver who still needs to learn the route tree just went in Round 1
Pro teams are suckers for potential.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
He would have been drafted if he didn't have legal trouble.
That much is guaranteed. Potential is enough to draft Jarmon Fortson. Now, if he were to slack off and be unmotivated, he’s drafted 6th or 7th round. If he were to dedicate himself, I could see him in the 2nd or 3rd round.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
I think COULD have been drafted is more accurate.
And I could assume you’re (AMFKNole) talking about Dez, right? Or was it Thomas? If it WAS Dez, you could fault the media’s overwhelming hype on the guy from day one. As for Thomas… Hellifikow why a GT wideout got first round money. It does appear like he was the only guy on the team who ever caught the ball, though.
And I didn’t know until just right now that Dez ended the season as OkSt’s 2nd best WR, statistically. Even after only playing three games. Now thats just funny.
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Well then, here is a shocker.
AGAIN, we’re talking about the Denver Broncos.
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Not comparing the two really
simply saying inconsistencies with route running won’t sink you straight away.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
That “can’t really throw a football”didn’t stop the Btoncos
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by RaysnNoles on Aug 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Touché
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He wasn't going in the first EVER
If he had a great year on and off the field he could have gone in the 3rd.
I don’t get where people thought he had a shot at 1st
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Freshman redshirting is usually beneficial to the program.
However, it’s not a great sell for recruiting. Fortson, Smith, Haulstead all played their freshman year.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
I didn't suggest it was beneficial.
But if they lose a year, then doesn’t that suggest we need another WR this year?
Not necessarily.
2012 should be a good year for WR, too. It definitely could happen with DJJ not qualifying and Fortson now out.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
We could get on a guy after their senior season like Dent last year.
If they really show out.
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The point was that there are kids every year that don't really show up on the radar until their senior seasons.
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hate to see his tremendous talent wasted, but this BS which was tolerated by the BB leadership team must change. Start Rodney Smith & Co and mvoe on without the clown!
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Totally agree
Sad to see the first comment of this kind coming off to late on this board. I’m not surprised at all… how many times do you hear Jimbo use the word, “character”.
by Nole'in Around on Aug 8, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I expect Kenny Shaw to see fairly substantial playing time now
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I don't.
First off, Kenny Shaw is not close to the same type of player Fortson was. Second off, you have to question Kenny Shaw’s bulk at this point. The only thing Kenny has going for him is his route running ability. Otherwise, the only 2010 WRs that have potential for significant playing time this year are Greg Dent and Christian Green.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Some snaps.
Significant playing time? No. Curious as to your ranking for the four 2010 WR’s playing time at WR.
Mine:
1. Christian Green
2. Greg Dent
3. Kenny Shaw
4. Jarred Haggins.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Of course.
Everything I said basaltrock should be taken as pure speculation. There’s really no answer to the season starts.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Green isn't ready yet
He’s got the highest ceiling though. Shaw’s route running is a major attribute rarely seen in Freshmen, and he’s been singled out in multiple practices for his ability. I could see him splitting time in the slot, especially against zone defense teams.
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That's a great point about Green not being fully ready.
The only thing I’ll argue is that Jarmon Fortson played on pure potential his freshman year. Christian Green did plenty fine in the Army All-American game at WR, as well.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Do you have Haggins 4th because he was a high school QB?
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Shaw wouldn't be replacing Fortson, but you have to assume everyone will be pushed up a spot
which includes Special Teams
Personally, I think Haulstead will fill in nicely.
Even if Willie runs the correct routes and catches the catchable balls, its a wash IMO.
Jarmon caught some big balls, but I think with confidence, WH can offset this loss.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's Smith not Haulstead.
Smith is Rodney’s backup.
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Right
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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thats who I meant...
I get those 2 mixed up. Both big mamma jammaz
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Shaw has as good a shot as any of the freshman receivers to see the field.
He’s no smaller than Bert was in 08 and he has solid hands to go with great route running
I don't see it
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at least we got a wide variety of young recievers
We’ll have enough options out there (and versatile options too). We have a good size matchup guy in smith, a few burners, a few possession guys.
We also have a talented running game.
This hurts because he was our “how the heck did he catch that?” guy. A lot of players are going to salivate at the chance to take his snaps though.
only made those catches after he had his "How the hell did he drop that?"
i will give Fortson credit for some great acrobatic plays, but please do not forget that this is the guy who dropped 2 in the end zone that would have beat miami, and that throughout the season CP7 would plug him in the #’s just to see it hit the ground at LEAST once a game, (every time i can remember he was across a 1st down marker)
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by Rudy Stivers on Aug 10, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Terry Bowden is loving life right now...
Football is played with an oblong ball. Take your roundball and GTFO...
Ive gotten the impression that...
Fortson was on thinner ice than anyone was lead to believe (which is a good thing, credit the sites). Truth be told, I expected this at some point this year. I hate that it happened, but in our situation, the loss of one player does not outweigh the importance of uniformed discipline.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You are so dumb... you are really dumb... for real
by coonhound on Aug 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
Christian Ponder: Your favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback.
by Jamil Dawson on Aug 8, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You can run and tell that
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by Tubby Sweetbundle on Aug 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What's the movie with the guards against the inmates?
Huntville Po Po against Bowden’s boys. What a sequel!!!
by NoleySmokes on Aug 8, 2010 3:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe he only saw the Sandler ver
and that is easily forgettable.
by osceolafan2.0 on Aug 8, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
North Dallas Forty
Sorry, I had partaken in my Sunday herbal medication. The Sandler version actually caused me to forget the title of the classic, sorry.
by NoleySmokes on Aug 8, 2010 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
North Dallas Forty was the movie about pro football
with Nick Nolte. The Longest Yard was the one with Burt Reynolds, about the prison, the one that got remade with Adam Sandler.
Thank God for my meds.
oh yeah! Lol! The Longest Yard , North Dallas Forty, pretty close! Ha! You got me. Suprised I could still navigate the site! Damn Afghan Kush!!
by NoleySmokes on Aug 8, 2010 5:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Burt set it up so that the World Premiere was in Tallahassee.
I wonder, how many major movie premieres does Tally have under its belt?
The original or the remake?
I call Burt the Super Nole.
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The original.
Burt did what he could to promote the Noles way before the Noles were cool.
This sucks.
If Jarmon could have put it all together this year he could have been a real playmaker. I was expecting him to be our difference maker at WR.
It’s tough enough to make it to the season without losing players to injury, but losing them to stuff like this REALLY hurts. Now we can afford those injuries-yet-to-happen even less.
IF Jarmon could have put it all together this year he could have been a real playmaker. I was expecting him to be our difference maker at WR.
One huge “if”. He made a clear decision.
by truenole87 on Aug 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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I blame this on Miami. That dropped pass is what lead him down the wrong path.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Fortson
Shouldn’t all of the psychological counciling brought all the reasons for his self destructive behavior to the surface?
Psychological counseling < Cross Joint
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was Fortson going to be a distraction?
I thought it was interesting a while back when Ponder praised the receiving corps, most by name, but didn’t mention Fortson…
by The Highway's Free on Aug 8, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
6'6" 222 lb Sophomore Rodney Smith, a four-star out of Miami will replace Fortson.
Time to focus on Rodney. I recall he had nice spring. Seems like a close physical replacement for Fortson. I get the impression that we will not miss Fortson for long.
For some reason, I'm not at all broken up over this. Not sure if its because:
A) I expected it at some point
2) Reciving depth (Haulstead/Smith)
D) Past inconsistency / no indication of progression (not recalling any stories about JMan progress)
Panties) One big distraction gone. Questons answered, team has better understanding of CJF discipline.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 12:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I know some around the program who are like "phew! glad he didn't do something like put his GF in the hospital during his time here"
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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wow.
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Werd
If there were reports not only from Jimbo, but from his teammates, that he was a ticking time bomb waiting to explode I would rather him not be on the team. His behavior and attitude would be detrimental to the team. What has Fortson done to make him feel he has this sense of entitlement? Last time I checked, FSU was bigger than one person. His track record of five failed drug tests compounds the issue and makes it a no brainier. Sionara Fortson.
"Fsu was bigger than one person..."
Aubrey Phillips disagrees literally while Ann Bowden disagrees figureatively.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
*That might not get nominated for "Post Of The Year", but it should at least get honorable mention :D
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need to grab a beer with you in Tally Samford weekend. Someone has to listen to me vent! lol Plus your articles kick ace!
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Aug 8, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. I came across someone discussing how volatile the situation really was. Couple that with the inability/unwillful desire to curb the substance abuse, and it could have developed into a dangerous situation for not only those involved, but FSU as well.
It was all specullation, but it came from someone who was close to the situation. Im hoping he turns it around,man. Thats potentially a bad path.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Greg Reid's twitter
Everybody pray for my boy he was a leader n always will be it’s hard to break old habits in people couldn’t understand that. #teammate
about 1 hour ago via Echofon
Very nice tweet.
Guess Greg said it best – “its hard to break old habits in people”
Greg said alot of things via twitter lately...
Many are quite hilarious but probably not appropriate for a quality, family friendly forum like TN.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 1:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can you provide a link to G5's twitter account?
Thanks.
by FtLauderdaleNole on Aug 8, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Does this scare anyone else?
Should these guys really have twitter accounts? What good can come out of this?
by Nole'in Around on Aug 8, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Already had this discussion today
I will address this in a fanpost, me thinks.
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Not me. Why not? As long as they aren't tweeting like Marvin Austin, who cares?
Jmo.
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And on a more serious note, thats a very mature statement from gr5. Still a “teammate” in life, hopefully.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Twas very tweet...
Is Twitter on the Ebays?
by NoleySmokes on Aug 8, 2010 9:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gehres Time!
Wants to live in a world where Batting Average goes the way of the Dodo!
by RaysnNoles on Aug 8, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That must have been Nigel Carr's battlecry
just before he went on the Hayden Road Rampage.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
heh... I really wish him the best. He was a decent HS WR, and has given a ton to this program.
30 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Seriously, what's up with this guy?
Can Gehres play, or waste of scholly?
Guy had stickem hands in high school.
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I think Gehres can and will play
he was thin coming out of highschool, but the kid looks ripped now.
I thought he would play some last year
It seemed like every practice report during two a days had a mention of him making some ridiculous circus catch. He also had like 900 yards on 29 catches in high school or something absurd like that. I don’t care if he’s not as athletic as, say, Jarmon Fortson, but I’m more interested in having guys who are going to catch the ball when it’s thrown to them and Gehres seems like one of those guys.
Best of luck Jarmon, hope you can turn it around
Get ready, Rodney and Willie!!
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by NoleThruandThru on Aug 8, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions
Not that I think it will, but I hope this doesn't affect Fan Day at all today.
Kind of sucky how this happens right before Fan Day and Carr’s situation came to light right before the coach’s day at Media Days/
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
I honestly dont know if it was meant to come out today.
It was originally tweeted by a non FSU source (i.e. no penchant for protecting sensitive info in the interest of breaking news), then retweeted by the UF rivals site.
WC sources were reporting a knee injury minutes prior, so who knows?
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We were also told of the knee but that it happened 10 days ago
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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You were told recently? or told 10 days ago? Any chance it was a diatraction while disciplinary actions were being decided on?
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes I think it could have been.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Thats what I figured
I was miffed at the original tweets. No sources, no nothing.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 1:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Most cornnoles are not pretty.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 1:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
More news like this and I'll be failing a drug test
by norcal_nole on Aug 8, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Nah man. This one has a silver lining, me thinks.
The true tragedy is the potential path of an incredibly gifted young man.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
This negatively impacts Fortson more than it does FSU.
Christian Ponder: Your favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback.
by Jamil Dawson on Aug 8, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Recievers reponsible for
1273 yards coming back this year and lose 1954 from players not returning. This is just from the WR corps not including RB’s. Going to have to have some young guys step up. Players coming back responsible for only 39.4 percent of production.
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Definitely not..
Sky is definitely not falling…. We’re built for depth .. No longer the “we’re just one playmaker away” strategy. It’s about depth and not having “the man” at any position, but having “men” all over. We’re recruiting that way and we’re putting a plan in place that’s about having a program rather than a team. Teams rely on one or two star players, programs have depth and consistency.
Its unfortunate, but the program is going to be beyond fine.
I agree but that isn't the point
The point is, the ‘depth’ hasn’t done anything in a real game yet. They need to.
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by onebarrelrum on Aug 8, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Having a Heisman type QB, a great stable at RB, and maybe the best OL in the nation should ease the transition at WR.
Reed and Easterling are some pretty experienced players.
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Oh I certainly agree
But they are unproven. But I think the two sophomores, now more than ever, have a chance to be on the receiving end (pun totally intended) of the good things on the FSU offense.
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Dont forget to add..
the running backs, H-backs & TEs catching passes as well … This offense will be much more diversified than we’ve seen in years – Probably back since the Ward days
by FSU on Aug 8, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Reed was one of the most dependable receivers last year.
The man caught everything that came his way. I would say he is proven.
I'm aware
I said the sophomores. Reid is part of the 40 percent production coming back…
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
With our luck, the young receiver who steps up will also have a drug problem/get in fights/get his gf pregnant/fail out of school.
Ya, only in HS football is this a problem I feel.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
closing strikethrough
should work
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And then....
He’ll be replaced … We have so much depth at receiver position .. It now comes down to who does their job and who does get in trouble
Sucks
I had high hopes for Jarmon but it sounds like he had no interest in changing his ways.
by Legal_Seminole on Aug 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Noticed that as well thought it was my phone.
by Legal_Seminole on Aug 8, 2010 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a bummer but ...
getting Jarmon off the team now may have saved the team untold embarrassment in the future. I am sure he was given reasonable opportunities to change and that this is something that he eventually brought upon himself. Jimbo sending a message? Sure, but in a very calculated manner.
by MumbaiNole on Aug 8, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well stated.
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by CornNole on Aug 8, 2010 1:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sux but...
One door closes while another door opens for someone else to step up and take his place. I trust that JF has a back up plan…
Some people never learn
It’s a shame that some of these people get so many chances and still piss it away. Way to let your team down Jarmon!
Non Mollare, non mai mollare!
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I vote for banning FSUSOM.
He’s infected this site with a virus. :)
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Can Strikethroughs...
be now known as Fortson’s revenge? — Mutilple strikes!
by FSU on Aug 8, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
One small step for a man...
But one giant leap for the FSU program. No one on this message board deserves to employ the double standard that the UF fans seem to use. We cannot be on the message boards telling Fisher to “set the example and set it strongly from the start” when talking about Carr and then come out and whine about Fortson being kicked off. Both people are cancers to the team that needed to be cut out. There is enough talent to catch the ball and Ponder has already said he loves the WR as a whole so I fear not for a slip in production.
by GermDaveNole on Aug 8, 2010 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Haulstead listed about the same size as Forston, 6'3" 220.
With the current weight gains, are these guys about the same size?
Damn! This sux! Glad WR is one position we have a lot of talent and are pretty deep at.
Dent, Haggins, Green, Reed, Easterling, Shaw, Wade, Smith, Haulstead = time to step up!
I expected Fortson to have a great year too. :( He had NFL talent & just blew it.
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Is it just my browser, all the sudden about 1/4 of the post toward the end of thread have lines through them?
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Must be your computer.
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It's not your computer.
something’s wrong.
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by willdabeast on Aug 8, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
check out the right side of the site
and the bottom, even the site writers and names crossed through…everything is…strange
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
Everything's fine on my end...
You should probably call microsoft…I hear they’re very helpful and easy to work with.
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Are you just throwing out browser names or does your Chrome actually not show the strikethroughs?
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Yea, I'm using Chrome, too.
So I was wondering if SWFL just has some super duper version of Chrome that’s resistent to FSUSOM TN viruses.
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So far everything south of this thread is strike through with me
even the “POST A REPLY” titlebar and the little pop window that says someone just posted. weird
I will Rec this since you weren't the source of this pestilence
Bring back Korey Mangum — a true Nole!
I think so
I would think so… You still have Reid & Joyner you can throw in there some. Besides dependability is just as important if not more than ability. I’m not sure they felt he was a dependable … both off and on the field.
by FSU on Aug 8, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Needs more strikethrough
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
by ricobert1 on Aug 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I got a fever! And the only prescription.. is more strikethrough!
by sealclubber on Aug 8, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice
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by pasadenanole22 on Aug 8, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Does NoVaNoles post on here?
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No.
I’ve already alerted the Virginia State Police, and he’s on suicide watch.
Gotta stick up for my boy Nova. He may say the wrong thing 99 out of 100 times, but he does it with relentless passion.
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Heart and Passion are Key.
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I hope you aren't being sarcastic.
99% of people see NoVa as a loudmouth idiot. I will not contend that he is not, but the 1% that isn’t loves FSU and would run through a brick wall with his head lowered for them.
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I guess you weren't around for the heart/desire/passion/grit "wars" of yesterweek.
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No.
Had a life threatening URI last week. Haven’t been on much.
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Well it was in one of the last Ongoing Discussion Threads.
Some people really got into it. You’ll probably see people make seemingly random mentions of “heart” or the like if you haven’t already.
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