If Boise State played an ACC Schedule...
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 2, 2010 1:12 PM EDT
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All the talk of Boise State "crashing" the BCS is getting really old. Actually, it was old three years ago. The only way Boise State could get to the BCS is to crash it. There is a reason they don't get an automatic bid, their conference schedule sucks. Let's give them our two favorite ACC schedules and see what they would do.....
I saw a post like this giving them UGA's schedule. They would be 7-5. SEC my ass. Figure in our OOC shedules and we still have the tougher schedules.
FSU's Schedule Miami's Schedule
Samford (Boise wins easily) 1-0 (0-0) FAMU (Boise in a blowout) 1-0 (0-0)
@ Oklahoma (Oklahoma wins) 1-1 (0-0) @Ohio State (OSU wins easily) 1-1 (0-0)
BYU (Boise wins a shootout) 2-1 (0-0) @ Pitt (Pitt grinds them out on the ground) 1-2 (0-0)
Wake Forest (Boise wins) 3-1 (1-0) @ Clemson (Clemson wins a close one) 1-3 (0-1)
@ Virginia (Boise wins easily) 4-1(2-0) FSU (BSU in a route, jk /FSU in a shootout) 1-4 (0-2)
@ Miami (HA!!!!!!!) 4-2 (2-1) @ Duke (Boise gets a breather) 2-4 (1-2)
Boston College (BC bores them to death) 4-3 (2-2) UNC (UNC smashes BSU in the mouth) 2-5 (1-3) *
@ NC State (Boise wins) 5-3 (3-2) @Virginia (Boise with the win) 3-5 (2-3)
UNC (UNC smahes BSU in the mouth) 5-4 (3-3) * Maryland (Boise wins easily) 4-5 (3-3)
Clemson (Clemson wins a close one) 5-5 (3-4) @GaTech (GaTech much like FSU 2009) 4-6 (3-4)
@ Maryland (Boise wins easily) 6-5 (4-4) VaTech (we'll see this weekend) 4-7 (3-5)
Florida (Not even close) 6-6 (4-4) USF (Boise finishes with a win) 5-7 (3-5)
final record final record
6-6 (4-4) 5-7 (3-5)
Boise gets to play their bowl at home No Bowl for you
* If UNC has their players on the field
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I'll take NCST over BSU.
I don’t think Maryland is a gimme either, keeping in mind the grind of an actual schedule and possible letdowns (looking ahead to UF/GT).
Virginia, Duke and Wake are Boise's only sure fire ACC wins.
And even those schools are better than Boise’s WAC counterparts.
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Haven't you been around long enough
to know this isn’t how we do things.
Gotta use percentages… not absolutes.
Let’s say Boise plays FSU’s schedule…
Btw, I think in a neutral site game Boise would be favored against FSU, so I have to honestly reflect that in my percentages by giving Boise a slight bump for some games.
Samford – 95%
OU – 35%
BYU – 75%
WF – 90%
Va – 90%
Miami – 40%
BC – 65%
NCSt – 70%
UNC – 65%
Clemson – 65%
Maryland – 80%
UF – 35%
Projected wins = 8.05
Projected conference wins
would be 5.65, rounding to 6-2 and likely a chance at VaTech in the conf championship game, since we all know VT will win their side of the conference ; )
Cane I do want to see a percentage breakdown from you
for the U this year. It would be much appreciated.
Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.
Those are some generous numbers you're giving Boise...
I’d say it’s more like 99% for Samford
OU – 30%
BYU – 75%
WF – 85%
UVA – 90%
Miami – 35%
BC – 55%
NC State – 70%
UNC – 55%
Clemson – 50%
Maryland – 75%
UF – 25%
Projected wins = 7.44 wins = 7-5 season
Projected conference wins = 5.15 = 5-3 conference and no ACC Championship game
I'd love to see your percentages for FSU
Or at least who you would favor in a single-game neutral field match between FSU and Boise.
Right now, vegas has Boise to beat VT 55% of the time in what is basically an away game.
Not sure how that translates into 50% for clemson or 55% for BC and UNC.
BSU probably goes 8-9 wins.
But Vegas only tries to get even money on the game. They’ll have BSU at 90% if that evens the money. The fact that they are usually close just shows that the betting public is not as out of touch on sporting events as it is typically perceived.
What are the odds that Boise beats Ole Miss 1st game of year 2011..????
And what will the heat index be on the field???
2011
9-3 @ Mississippi
9-10 Wyoming
9-17 @ Toledo
9-24 Tulsa
10-1 Utah
Considering
that Ole Miss lost to Jacksonville State, I wouldn’t even look much into that game. BSU has another cake schedule for 2011. I am willing to say the Utah game will be tougher for BSU than the Ole Miss game.
Let's see how they do against VTech.
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assault of thought on the unthinking."
- John Maynard Keynes
"We'll be here 'til midnight. We ain't not gonna practice."
- Jimbo Fisher
I see history repeating itself
Well folks, that is what happens when teams with smaller, slower, and generally well coached players run into faster, bigger, and much better coached teams. Georgia completely dismantled Boise State 48-13 in Athens.
Most of the offseason, many in the media and blog community labeled Boise’s offense as “too high powered” for UGA. How would the Bulldogs manage to hang with the 45+ points per game high flying attack of the Mustangs?
The answer? By playing conservative on defense, stopping the run and not falling for the play action. All the while, exposing the complete lunacy of the Bronco defense to the world.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 2, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorta like when the high flying hawaii team played UGA as well
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Sep 2, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing with Boise Stae is
that they only have to really prepare and get up for a couple of games a year. They have all off season to prepare for VaTech, then they just cruise until Oregon State. They don’t have to go through the grind of an actual schedule. Then they get to point at the two legit teams they play every year and say, “But look how we played them.” It’s alot easier to play up to the big games when your starters are resting midway through the third quarter nearly every game. No players come in nicked up or tired. They get to stay fresh all year.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 2, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
UGA destroyed Hawaii in the bowl game. Bodies literally were dropping for hawaii
I was agreeing with you
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Sep 2, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I know.
I wasn’t arguing, just elaborating.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 2, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
They do have 21(?) of 22 starters returning on what WAS/IS a good team.
Not saying they’re NC caliber, but definitely good.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
I'm inclined to think that's true.
But, like I said, we’ll see how they do against the Hokies. Personally, I hope VT blows them out, so that everybody in the press will stop giving them airtime.
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assault of thought on the unthinking."
- John Maynard Keynes
"We'll be here 'til midnight. We ain't not gonna practice."
- Jimbo Fisher
Living out west
All I can say is I’m glad BYU/Boise/Utah are all changing conferences. Living in Utah ALL I hear about are these teams and how they are under appreciated on a national level. Utah is gonna be playing with the big boys (PAC10+2), Boise joined a conference that just had 2 of its 3 “stars” leave, and BYU is…well, they will continue to be irrelevant on a national level…but really who watches their games other than opponents FANS on gameday and BYU graduates??
To me, Utah has put itself in a position to BECOME better, and the other two have done (at best) lateral moves….
Boise has not made a lateral move
The Mountain West is significantly better than the WAC. TCU, Boise State, Fresno State are legit teams. You wished Utah and BYU would have stayed. Make the league better. But Boise State will be in a much better conference. Now if the Mountain West can find a way to get a deal with ESPN than they will be in much better shape.
Definite improvement.
Bringing along two solid WAC programs in Fresno State and Nevada and joining up with TCU definitely is an improvement for Boise State. I believe that puts the MWC at 10 with Utah and BYU’s departures. I wonder if they look at SMU, Houston or Tulsa to get to 12.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
They have not made the same transition that Utah is poised for~
I feel Boise is a strong team, but overrated, and will underperform on the national level. TCU is also a strong team, gotta love them Horned-Frogs (minus the baseball team, too soon, too soon). In the Grand-Scheme, in a SEC/Big-12/ACC conference they would be mid-conference teams, scrappers capable of an upset but the “dark-horses” of a conference champ, let alone Title contenders.
Lets see how Cincy/VT/OregonSt. shake things out this weekend.
Possibly
If they were in the Pac-10 I think they would win the conference once every couple of years. They have proven they can beat Oregon and Oregon State. Pac-10 teams are not as big as the boys inthe South, but that doesn’t mean they are not players. I actually think they would also do well in the Big 12. Probably lose to Oklahoma and Texas a lot, but I think they could beat the rest of the Big12(now ten). They are really well coached and if you give them the chance to recruit Texas(most of their players come from California) You could get a nice blend of talent in there. I don’t understand the hate for Boise. Yes they probably cant win the SEC. But in a one game scenario, they can beat anyone. They play sound defense and are pretty explosive on offense. They know they are limited, but still play to their strengths.
In a one game scenario,
Miami could beat anybody. In a one game scenario, FSU could beat anybody. That doesn’t make us National Champion material. Boise State and TCU got off lucky last year playing each other in a BCS bowl. Best case scenario, to me, would have been put them in separate BSC bowls and let them both get hammered. That would end all of this cinderella crap.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 3, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree
Boise has great coach’s so they are able to come up with two great schemes a year. One they plan all summer for and the other they have the equivalent of a spring camp to prepare for. Anyone with an average team and good coaches could pull that off. Like has been said a thousand times they couldn’t “scheme” their way through a normal conference schedule nor do they have the depth to do make it happen.
class of 99
Tru
But if they were in a “normal” conference they also would have access to the recruiting and money that is shared in conference. Nobody ever takes that into consideration. Look at VT. By being in the ACC they have improved a lot more. Same with BC.
Everything you said is true.
But they’re NOT in a normal conference, si they don’t have access to all of that.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 7, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Points
They do a good job matching their people up, and with the exposure and the new conference they ARE increasing their recruiting power, national exposure and name recognition. The cream will rise to the top, and they have that opportunity next year in the MWC, but right now, they are the highschool phenom that thinks he is the cats pajamas…and I think they will be given a shot of reality as they expose themselves to stronger competition in their conference and OOC schedules.
wow I like this
Its funny to see what people think sometimes. Do they need to be ranked 3rd no we all know that and should UF still be ranked 4th again nope. But does that matter not really. I think TCU and Bois St are better teams that people give them credit for the ting that hurts them is there SoS. They need to get out and into a auto bid conf. I though Bois St was going to the Pac 10.
As for what they would do in the ACC, I think they would be a mid tear team. thats it. They would fight with Maryland year in and out to see whos better. 1 – 10 years they might make a ACCCG appearance and 1-20 years make a OB or higher as of right now. However I dont think the rest of the ACC sees FSU and Miami getting back on there feet and taking what is theres again. But thats just me.
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