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The Conversation: Talking Wake Forest With BloggerSoDear

This week we are joined by Martin Rickman of BloggerSoDear.com to discuss the Wake Forest Demon Deacons.  I recommended the the guys at BloggerSoDear for their current spot and couldn't be more pleased.  They do an excellent job.  My answers to their questions are here.  Let's get to it:

1. Where is this Wake team mentally after the 68-24 drubbing at the hands of Stanford? Any feel for the likelihood of a hangover effect?

Well I wouldn't put them in the "confident" camp. Looking at the quotes from after Stanford, this is a team that got whipped and knows it. The biggest question is, how do they respond? I said early on in the preseason that if they get down on themselves this could get ugly fast, but if they are able to learn something every game, at least there's that. We all knew Stanford was an auto-loss. There was no chance of a win there. Hangover effect? Possibly. But I'm expecting a loss, by at least two scores, and I'm not chalking that up to a hangover--FSU is just a better team.

2. Who are Wake's 5 best players so far this season?

Tanner Price, Josh Harris, Chris Givens, Devon Brown and Alex Frye. Frye is probably the best player on this defense (which I realize doesn't seem like it's saying much, but he is the best playmaker we've got). Price has shown the most upside potential and he'll take his licks, but this kid has a bright future. Harris needs the ball more and has shown great burst from the RB position. And as to Givens and Brown, they are part of our very talented receiving corps. They catch everything and show a lot when they get into the perimeter on handoffs.

3. If you could magically fix one element of Wake's team (run offense, pass offense, run defense, pass defense), which one do you fix and why?

I'm not going "run defense" or "pass defense" in general because it's not that simple. The DBs give too much of a cushion, but part of the reason they give that cushion is because of the DL. So I'm going DL in general. They are undersized, they get no pressure and they don't scare anyone. I don't think Luck was knocked down more than once or twice last game, and it's extremely difficult for your DBs to play bump and run or stay on their man if they know that the QB is going to have all day to throw the ball. Something needs to be done on the line or this problem is only going to get worse.

4. Do you put most of the blame on the new quarterbacks for the offense's lack of progress?

No. The offense has scored. That's not our problem. There are growing pains, but I'm actually pleasantly surprised with our ability to score. If you had told me we'd have 133 points through three weeks I would have actually laughed in your face.

5. What would you consider an acceptable game in Tally? What result would be unacceptable?

Keeping it close. Showing some heart. Actually knocking down Ponder once or twice. Seeing the team get hyped up after making a big play on defense. Not giving FSU the ball at the 35 or better on average field position. Losing by less than 17.    Unacceptable? What happened in Palo Alto.

As always, thanks to TomahawkNation. I have nothing but good things to say about your site, and I'm proud to be part of a network of ACC blogs as good as yours.

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Responses sound extremely well thought out

With a notable lack of homerism. Very nice job by the interview-ee!

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Sep 23, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

You did good too Bud.

:)

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Sep 23, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Good interview

He indicated the defensive line is a sore point. It probably won’t do well against Trickett’s offensive line either as that is probably one of FSU’s strongest points.

We are "process oriented" as opposed to "results oriented." says Fisher.
The process is real, make no mistake, it gets stronger and stronger day by day, it is unstoppable!

by DocHoliday2 on Sep 23, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven't seen Wake this year

I’m surprised he didn’t mention Marshall Williams as one of the best 5 players. Is he injured or just not producing?

by 504Nole on Sep 23, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

He's definitely producing....

It seems that Martin was speaking of those who have been explosive out there this year and Williams has just been consistent as always. We haven’t thrown the ball too much either through the first three games.

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by BJohnston on Sep 23, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like your "Numbers" piece

But I believe Troy is in Alabama

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that." - Bill Shankly

by SeminoleMike on Sep 24, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true...the point remains just need to remove Troy from that

I didn’t have them at first and then looked it up…that’s embarrassing I guess I just got the A’s confused.

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by BJohnston on Sep 24, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something tells me not to be too confident.....

Given our recent history w/ wake, i’m not too confident. I realize they just got blown out by Stanford, but i remain skeptical as to us dominating this game. Maybe i have grown cynical over the last 10 yrs of disappointment and mediocrity, but i’m never confident going into any game, especially one against wake forest. anyone else feel this way?

by 81FSUnole on Sep 23, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

Granted, this is not the Wake Forest team we’ve seen in the past few years, but they know they’ve owned us in Doak in the past. At the same time, I have a lot of faith in our coaching now and hopefully we’re well past that rollercoaster we’ve ridden in past years, where a letdown was almost expected in one of these games.

Still, I’m not gonna feel right until this game is very well in hand…

by Rob_E on Sep 23, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the worst D1 team FSU has played in its last 30 games.

2007 against Duke was worse.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 23, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think last year's Maryland team was worse

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by BJohnston on Sep 24, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they should have been a 5 win team that got really unlucky

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 24, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their secondary was the worst I have ever seen. That statement stands after watching ours for 2 games this year against FBS opponents.

Wake Forest '12

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by RAJohnston on Sep 25, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thought their Dl & LBs were good

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 25, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't mess with the line although I'm confident you all will cover

I did play the over/under very confidently though (over 62)

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by BJohnston on Sep 24, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is a nice website

I like bloggersodear. I had previously never visited their site and I enjoyed what I saw and I’m glad I could give them the traffic boost and hell I might go peak around every now and then. I suggest everyone take a look over.

by Sem1nole on Sep 24, 2010 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

An important caviot: the Stanford vs. Wake Game started @ 11:35Pm EST

While wake may have been destined to lose that game,, all of their weaknesses had to have been magnified by their travel west. If our team can’t look past this fact Wake may be able to stary in the game.

(my sources for this idea came from an article a member posted about ACC over scheduling)

by Trus1te on Sep 24, 2010 3:19 AM EDT reply actions  

And the excuse

for giving up 48 to Duke?

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Sep 24, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

There isn't one.

They have a decent offense but their D is terrible. Our D line isn’t elite but very well could look elite against Wake(The diff. in athleticism is to much). The Germinator and Jacobi should maul their O line.I don’t know if White will stand out as he never seems to be able to leverage himself properly.

class of 99

by xWd40x on Sep 24, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

They will probably score some points.

But we should have an over/under on sacks. I think Stanford recorded 4. FSU has a chance to keep up their ranking in sacks, for the time being anyway.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Sep 24, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah they'll score but they can't stop anybody

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 24, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

Going to do a thorough review? Or more like Samford? Somewhere in between? Maybe just put up their average Dline weight followed by THE END.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Sep 24, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

caveat

An important caveat…..

Along the lines of your CAVEAT: Wake got home late, had a short week, comes off a royal azz whippin’, and has to go on the road. That combination, plus a lack of experience AND talent equals Noles’ romp.

BTW just messin’ w/ u about the spelling. :)

Ameica, Land of the free and home to the entitled.

by levynole on Sep 24, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just sayin...

That this is another gut check: can we come out 2 weeks and a row and dominate a team that we have the capacity to dominate?

by Trus1te on Sep 24, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that it isn't deserved....

but y’all are absolutely ripping Wake apart.

A bit of hyperbole by Bud in terms of us being the worst team since Duke in ‘07 (excluding AA’s)

Wake Forest '12

Mother So Dear

by RAJohnston on Sep 24, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

No No

The worst Team FSU has faced since Duke of ‘07. I honestly can’t think of a REALLY bad team FSU has had on their schedule the last 2 years. You have to remember the competition FSU has had even in OOC barring the AA teams for the last two years. And that includes much better Wake Forest teams.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Sep 24, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's who we have played since then

BC
VT
MD
UF
Kentucky

all bowl teams.

2008
Wake
Colorado
Miami
NCST
VT
GT
Clemson
BC
Maryland
UF
Wisconsin

All bowl teams except 5-7 Colorado

2009
Miami
BYU
USF
BC
GT
UNC
NCST
MD
UF
WVU

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 24, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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