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Seminole Film Review: Florida State Defense v. Samford

Here is the film analysis of the Florida State Seminole defense against Samford.  No clips today as we'll quickly move to talking about Oklahoma and are working on something for BYU in week three.  Happy Labor Day.

FSU's new defense opened up in a 4-3 alignment to Samford's 3-wide shotgun look, running a cover-3.  From the opening snap, it was evident that Samford was going to run everything quick and not give FSU much time to rush the passer.  This Samford offense consisted almost entirely of quick passes, screens, and draws.  It did not give FSU much of a realistic look of what most other teams will run against Florida State.  

On the opening series Samford ran a quick bubble for 3-4 yards.  Then red-shirt freshman cornerback Xavier Rhodes did a great job to shed his block and tackle the screen play for no gain.  While I was not particularly impressed with the tackling in this game, the block-shedding was better.  The defenders this year are both much stronger and considerably better coached at using their hands to get rid of blockers.  There was much less trying to run around defenders.  On third down, Samford's QB barely scrambled for the first.  The awareness on the defensive line in this game seemed improved.  Samford is far from a formidable opponent, but you did see the defensive linemen playing with a plan on most plays as opposed to simply rushing upfield without purpose.  On Samford's 5th play Brandon Jenkins did a great job keeping his out-side arm free to make the tackle on the sweep while holding the edge.  A Samford drop on its second 3rd down wouldn't have made a difference as both Rhodes and Alexander were ready to make the tackle.  Samford's first drive went for 11 yards on 6 plays.  

On the second drive, FSU's defensive linemen did a great job of staying alert.  This isn't a great group by any means, but if it stays healthy it can be above average, which is a huge upgrade over last year.  Samford ran a bootleg for 3 yards.  Then on 2nd-n-7, they lined up in a 3-wide gun formation.  FSU played 4-3 with what looked to be cover 2.  Brandon Jenkins got a great jump on the play and is able to tip the ball which destroyed the play.  But the more encouraging thing here was Jacobbi McDaniel's hustle to the ball-carrier before the tip even occurred.  If the back catches the ball, there's a good chance McDaniel makes the play or slows the back up enough for FSU's other defenders to clean it up for minimal gain.  Loss of 6.  On 3rd-and-13 Samford runs a standard handoff.  FSU paid good money to beat on Samford.  The least the Bulldogs could do is drop back and throw an actual passing play.   3 plays, -1 yards, punt.  Running total:  9 plays, 10 yards.

On the third series, FSU subbed in Christian Jones at linebacker and Lamarcus Joyner at corner.  Also, Anthony McCloud entered the game.  Everett Dawkins showed impressive burst on the first play which Kendall Smith cleaned up for no gain with ease.  Samford picked up three on a sweep to the short side and Joyner could have been quicker reacting to the play.  On 3rd and 6 FSU got in its "Nickel Speed" package, featuring JaJuan Harley at linebacker.  It blitzed Joyner and Bradham, dropping Markus White into coverage.  Welcome to the zone blitz.  Samford had a very nice slip screen called.  Harley does a poor job fighting off his block (he's a safety by trade) and I'm not sure he saw the play well.  Jenijie stopped them a single yard short of the marker.  3 plays, 9 yards, punt.  Running total:  12 plays, 19 yards.

The fourth series (first of the second quarter) started from Samford's 25.  Enter red-shirt sophomore linebacker Vince Williams (#11) on the play, along with freshman defensive end Bjoern Werner (#95), red-shirt freshman defensive end Dan Hicks (#58), freshman linebacker Jeff Luc (# 48), and red-shirt freshman defensive tackle Demonte McAllister (#97).  Samford opens with a holding penalty on a bubble screen.  On 1st-n-16, Samford ran another screen and caught FSU in a stunt.  Rhodes does an excellent job to take on the blocker and get a piece of the runner while Jeff Luc shows decent range to get over and clean things up for his first career tackle.  On 2nd down, Jenkins looks like a young Everette Brown ducking under the block to get around the corner.  Williams and Luc had good coverage over the middle though Samford's receiver did the quarterback no favors.  On 3rd-8, Jenkins gets a great jump, as does Werner, and McAllister puts Samford's guard on his behind with a great swim move.  All 3 really shared in the sack.  4 plays, minus-9 yards, punt.  Running total:  16 plays, 10 yards.

Samford's fifth series opened with a 5-yard completion on a comeback off play-action.  Greg Reid on the aggressive tackle.  A zone-read got nothing and big credit to Dan Hicks for staying home.  That honest play would not have happened last season.  A draw play gets a first down when Bradham gets juked.  Impressive burst by Dawkins.  First down was a zone-read for 2 and Markus White made the tackle.  Dawkins and McCloud pushed off the ball there.  After a timeout, FSU is in its nickel package with Harley.  He seems a bit awkward.  The attempted 10-yard out throw is poor after Dawkins does a nice job getting his hands up.  Joyner with excellent coverage. 3rd-7 is a swing pass and Bradham sheds the block and quickly gets the tackle.  6 plays, 18 yards.  Running total:  22 plays, 28 yards.

The sixth series came right after the Greg Reid punt return.  Not a great job by Luc and Williams on the 3-yard gainer.  That should be stopped for a loss.  Have to take a better angle and use the correct arm to fight off blocks.  A bad snap derailed the next play.  On the next play JUCO transfer Mike Harris (#1) gets the interception on a ball that ricocheted off the receiver's hands on the tunnel screen.  Kudos to Werner for playing heads-up football and running with the play.  3 plays, 0 yards.  Running total:  25 plays, 28 yards.

The seventh series starts with FSU up 35-0.  A scramble by the QB gets 7or 8 as Telvin Smith (#22) gets rocked on a block.  Promising young linebacker has a bright future.  DT coach Haggins was not happy with one of the DTs.  On the next play Samford has a screen set up, but FSU calls a perfect zone blitz to the opposite side.  Christian Jones (#7) will be a nightmare off the edge and FSU fans have to be incredibly happy they have the young freshman.  He gets in on the sack along with Bjoern Werner.  Werner-Jenkins-McAllister-McCloud combine on a sack on the next play as FSU was again in its nickel look with Smith and Harley at linebacker.  Not sure what the coverage was as ESPN insists on cutting the TV angles unnecessarily close.  3 plays, minus-5 yards.  Running total:  28 plays, 25 yards.

On the final drive of the first half, Samford gets something going.  A 9-yard draw play works as Kendal Smith takes a false step and Bradham doesn't get off his block very well.  Samford throws a 7-yard comeback.  Joyner might have been lined up a bit too far there.  Samford throws another quick pass on the next play.  Greg Reid has the receiver lined up for no gain and a huge hit, but in going for the huge hit he misses and the receiver runs for 19.  Greg needs to understand what coverage he's in and when he can go for the hit.  Poor tackling.  Justin Bright (#3) looks awful out there.  Way too slow and small.  Not somebody who you want to depend on if you are FSU.  Poor job of getting in a football position by Vince Williams on the next play (a draw for 8 yards).  Amp McCloud shows nice hustle on the next play shoe-stringing a wide receiver.  Some sort of miscommunication on the next play leads to an open receiver over the middle, but he drops the ball.  FSU got lucky there.  FSU then comes up with the sack on the zone blitz, but it should have been a loss of 7 not 1 as Telvin Smith misses the opportunity.  Samford then hits a desperation throw to the 35, but Markus White is called for a questionable late hit on the quarterback.  FSU holds Samford for a loss on the next play but Samford hits the field goal.  10 plays, 56 yards.  Running total:  38 plays, 81 yards.

I'm not going to break down the second half today.  I was impressed that Florida State played a ton of players in this game and counted at least 24 seperate scholarship players who got in on defense.

It was quite hard to judge the defensive line in this game with the stuff Samford was running.  I am not at all ready to call them a strength, but the defensive line didn't look like an obvious liability today.  I am extremely excited about the 2011 defensive line.  Get these guys another year under strength coach Vic Viloria and watch out.  As for this year, it is all about health.  If the defensive line stays quite healthy, this team can win 9 games.  If the line suffers losses, FSU might only win 7.  Jenkins is a carbon copy of the 2007 version of Everette Brown (remember his game against Colorado?).  Werner will be a 3-year starter.  We expected him to see many snaps this season and Saturday only helped to solidify that opinion.  White has a great motor and while he'll never be a great player FSU needs his 30-40 snaps per game.  All of the defensive tackles impressed me in different ways.  

I thought the linebackers had an up and down day.  I was impressed by their ability to shed blockers but underwhelmed by their tackling.  In the first year of the new scheme they are still thinking and not reacting.  Bradham is the best player here.  Kendall Smith is the most improved by far.  Alexander brings good energy.  Christian Jones will be a monster off the edge as a 3-year starter, but he is still quite raw.  Telvin Smith showed why the coaches love him so much and Jeff Luc looked quicker than I expected.  Harley looked a bit lost as a nickel backer.  My opinion of the linebackers is relatively unchanged.

I was very impressed with the corners as I thought I would be.  FSU's backups could start for a few top-25 teams right now, and the Reid-Rhodes tandem will allow Mark Stoops to get some R&R this season.  Rhodes looked very good and Reid's play as a corner (special teams aside) was impressive outside the dumb attempt at a highlight-reel tackle.  I can't say enough about Rhodes' tackling on the short side.  He'll help the run defense as much as he does the pass defense.  

The safeties didn't do anything for me.   ESPN cuts the angles so close on games in Doak that it can be tough to see the safeties in coverage.  Nice play was made by Chad Abram.

Samford's offense was a joke and it did not give FSU good looks to practice against.  And Samford was missing its best receiver due to an academic suspension.  This performance is as valuable for what did not happen (Samford didn't have guys running wide open) as what did happen.  This defense can be one of the best 40 in the country (we predicted 37th best), but there is still much work to be done and it will still get lit up a time or two this year.

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Nice analysis

I think you’re absolutely right about the block-shedding, I noticed the same thing — it’s much better than last year. I was worried that the improvement was more because of the opponent’s weakness vs. our improved coaching/technique, though. I can’t evaluate the tackling as well as you did, but I noticed how much Greg Reid has improved that aspect of his game (the complete whiff aside).

I moved from my seats on the 50 about 55 rows up to a friend’s seats on the alumni-side 25 and 20 rows up at the end of the game where Samford was making a push in that end zone and also noticed how awful Justin Bright plays. I hope you’re right in your assessment that he will be moving on next year. However, the play of Telvin Smith also impressed me quite a bit, can’t wait to see him with about 20 more lbs. of muscle.

by phinole on Sep 6, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

great analysis

I am concerned about our tackling as well. We missed quite a bit of opportunities to stop them for little to no gain. We cannot afford to do that this week in Norman

by noledoc1 on Sep 6, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Pray to Rain/Lightning Gods for clear weather in Tally so we can get in a full week.

Good stuff. Well, the new D coaches will surely work to solve what was on film instead of last year’s “Get angrier! More Attack!”

by NOLEmercy3 on Sep 6, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

you must have missed the play where

Nigel ran right by the back and fell down backwards. Every one on that field made mistakes, and that kid also made some stops, unlike he who need not be named.

by Ponder This on Sep 7, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Justin Bright (#3) looks like he is a women's soccer player.

I wanted to say Magum is still on the team but he lost some weight and bleached his skin like Michael Jackson.

But seriously – Bright reminded me of someone almost as bad – Roger Williams – I haven’t seen a player just fall on his face in the open field like that since Roger Williams missed the punt returner for NC State his freshman year – and I believe the punt was returned for a touchdown (certainly a huge return)

by 93noleman on Sep 6, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

At least Williams had a huge hit on the UM quarterback at the goal line (cant remember his name but he looked like eminem). I don’t see Bright blowing anyone up anytime soon.

by F-Dub on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Williams also lost us the UM game in 07

on their final score they ran the same play three times in a row – for 3 straight completions and Roger could cover his man on any of the plays

by 93noleman on Sep 6, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wont argue with you about his coverage abilities, but he could at least lay the wood on occasion. He was also asked to play to his weaknesses.

by F-Dub on Sep 6, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

As was Mangum.

Bring back Korey Mangum — a true Nole!

by SoCalNole on Sep 6, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

that he only had four years of eligibility.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Sep 6, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i think its getting close to enough.

really.

"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran

by harper.rb on Sep 6, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

physical build

interesting.. when going over some of the photos from practice, while everyone looks absolutely ripped and huge, bright looks to have not worked out a bit.. seriously, i’m 38 and have better definition just from my work.. he certainly didn’t look like a D-1 football player at a major program competing for a job.. his high school reel shows he has good instincts and ball skills, but if he thinks he can get by with that here, he is mistaken.. he needs real physical development.. i’m pulling for the kid as we’ve seen about 6 years of bad safety play and dropped int’s…

by palmcitynole on Sep 6, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Werner impressive

If there was one guy I’d single out as impressive, it would be Werner. He’s going to be a beast before the season is over.

by JGsped on Sep 6, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

and he’s only been playing football how long? dude is a gonna be a best..

by palmcitynole on Sep 6, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

can't agree with this more

lets hope he can have success against DI OL. big difference

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by harper.rb on Sep 6, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the break down I have been waiting for

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by DocHoliday2 on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Great breakdown of the game.

by atlnolefan on Sep 6, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best Gran play to me

Stoops is coaching up the D during a timeout and Gran comes into the huddle and tells him to get his guys back on the field cause the refs are getting ready to blow the whistle to start the play clock – you could see this on the Sunshine coverage – no way that is his responsiblity – but he clearly had presence of mind (we all remeber the Clemson game and Mickey failing to gets his guys lined up before they snapped the ball.

by 93noleman on Sep 6, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

tough grader

When someone only scores 6 points with all of the substitutions we had. I’m impressed that we played so many on Defense in the 1st half and didn’t self-destruct. Allowing only 3 points in the first half, shows that we have the right coaches. Stoops getting on field addressing the players, shows the kind of passion that it takes to win, he is bound to get a penalty sooner or later, but I like it anyway.

by rspknole1 on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree it is tough to grade

because I remember the two games that started the 2008 season had me hyped. Both were blowouts and I think one was a shutout. Ponder and Richardson looked hot in those games, and the defense looked solid in both, but then came Wake Forrest and reality. So I am not going to expect miracles yet.

That being said, the secondary has to be better this year and the line too, so if they can focus on stopping Demarco Murray from running for big gains and force some 3rd and longs I think things will be okay.

by nolestuff on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but BB was the coach then

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by DocHoliday2 on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a little odd when

Telvin smith was in on the 2nd play for the D. What’s the deal there?

by BenDNole on Sep 6, 2010 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Justin Bright (#3) looks like he is a women's soccer player

Is a dig like that really necessary in analyzing the defense?

by randlieb on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

We've got a very good women's soccer team

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by basaltrock on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

and some hotties on there

note to Bud, Justin Bright does not want you checking out his butt.

And stop facebook stalking him too…

by PBD on Sep 6, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

can any of them

play safety.. looks like we still need the help..

by palmcitynole on Sep 6, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Abrams looked like a stud playing with the 2's

I really like his future. Remember, Nick Saban went after Chad Abram too from Lakeland HS. I really think we have something with a future Chad Abrams-Karlos Williams-Larmarcus Joyner-Greg Reid secondary in the future.

by CCDFSU07 on Sep 6, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Abrams is a huge safety

Love it if he is smart about his coverage reads.

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by harper.rb on Sep 6, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It helps me understand he is below terrible. So yes, sortof.

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by FSUvaFan on Sep 6, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He should not be on scholarship for FSU

Slow and small. I changed it so people wouldn’t get so sensitive, but he is awful.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 6, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's all I'm saying

tell us why you think he’s no good, don’t go the name calling route.

And yes the women’s soccer is killer, so maybe it wasn’t so disparaging after all!

by randlieb on Sep 6, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would the coaches be playing him if he's so bad?

While watching the game, I didn’t notice any major gaffs by Bright. At least he was in camera view unlike some other safeties in the past…

by FSUjab on Sep 7, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The B man doesnt do anything wrong...that's why he's playing. However, he can play perfectly take a great angle and still get blown by on a regular basis.

He’s just not big or fast enough. He got blown by in the Samford game…imagine OU.

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by truecolors on Sep 7, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

He missed several tackles and several completions were in his zone.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 7, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud

Please tell me Bright will be one of the players that is part of the attrition in 2011???

by FEARTHESPEAR! on Sep 7, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ranting against A 3rd team Safety

This is the sort of criticism that makes one wonder, are you being realistic. Maybe it will help him to develope to get the reps and understand what he needs to do. However, when you have to get to the 3rd string for that level of criticism-it has got to be a good sign, we had that on the 1st string at a couple of positions last year.

by rspknole1 on Sep 6, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

well i noticed at least one play

Where OJ missed a tackle because he only runs in straight lines , so I will forgive the third teamer, and note that there are three or four players that resemble fleas in the secondary.

by Ponder This on Sep 6, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really liked the play of our 2nd and 3rd string OL

Every linemen we have is an excellent zone-blocker. Everyone steps in unison – almost orchestral. Trickett has depth and talent now. As long as Tricky’s here, we will have an excellent zone-blocking line.

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by ricobert1 on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone else see Hudson

just get bowled over on the first series…the play that Ponder had to scramble for a 1sr down. I know that was a rarity, but Hudson just got embarrassed on that play.

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by Gripper on Sep 6, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I didn’t think he played very well

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 6, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was shocked on that one

It’s fair to say that Trickett will “remind” him about that repeatedly.

by PSLNOLE on Sep 6, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He didn't necessarily get bowled over

He stepped on a fellow OL’s foot, thus negating his balance. That’s what caused him to get bowled over. Wasn’t like he got rag-dolled.

by Dre Clark on Sep 6, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson ended up on his back at Ponder's feet...whatever you want to call it...it wasn't pretty

But I’d be willing to bet it probably won’t happen again this season.

The reason I brought it up was my wife had just asked who the best players were beside CP. I told #62 just in time to for that very play. I’m sure Ponder was just as surprised…he got out there pretty quickly.

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by Gripper on Sep 7, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody care to suggest what the score of this game had been had BB not stepped down?

It is nightmarish to consider this season with the old regime and what its changes would look like.

by Blue Horseshoe on Sep 6, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

FSU wins 59-58 cliffhanger shootout

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by DocHoliday2 on Sep 6, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to disagree with the assesment of how bad samfords offense was.

They looked on both sides like a very disciplined team with well executed(as much as was possible) game plan. They were simply out manned.

They did exactly what they needed to do. they mis-directed and the QB did a fairly good job of getting rid of the ball.

Also number one out or not they had some big recievers that played a quality game.

I agree its hard to eval the d-line given all the misdirection, however that is WHY I was impressed they stayed at home for the most part and looked physically impresseve (given the competition)

Tackling is certainly the weak spot now.

FS looked good…SS did not(although it was better than last year) I was there, so I watched quite a bit.
 Bad angles from Jenijie and Bright …
i think abrahms is a beast and needs to get worked in as soon as he’s mentally ready. Looked good the entire drive.

Corner is a mixed bag..Joyner/Harris look better in coverage and Rhodes looks better against the run…albiet not much(Joyner is a little killer) Reid looks good, but is not by any means a lock-down corner.

Our )-line did well but was pushed some…Hudson got straight bull rushed once…on his Butt!

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by truecolors on Sep 6, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Samford looked bigger team than some realize...they were just not very fast.

Also…Telvin and Luc overpersue the backside really bad right now!

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by truecolors on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent analysis, Adam

Thought their playcalling was impressive – everything underneath, take what the D gives you. In a sense, Jimbo and Co. take the same approach, except we’re not limited to comebacks and screens — we can mix in corner routes and playaction more believably.

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by ricobert1 on Sep 6, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pat Sullivan said playing FSU was like running into a buzz saw

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by DocHoliday2 on Sep 6, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Werner looks like he really wants that ball in the picture.

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by FSUvaFan on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

How much better does Werner project than Hicks

Hicks seems very impressive too. How sure are we that Werner stars for 3 years, while he’s got some very good competition at the end spot as well?

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by basaltrock on Sep 6, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Woerner will play on Sundays...

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by truecolors on Sep 6, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

funny, i'm by no means an expert..

when watching the game all i wanted to see are the basics.. with the DE’s all i cared about yesterday was their first step.. was it in the right direction, was it quick, did they lose leverage.. and werner has a great natural first step.. he’s explosive in his bull rush. quick in pursuit, and has already developed some nice moves.. and he’s only been playing football like 2 years or something..

by palmcitynole on Sep 6, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

What does the DL project to look like 5 or so games into the season?

Any one think it will change? How about next weeks overall defensive starters, did anyone show enough this week to move up?

by RunninNole5 on Sep 6, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Was there any

tight end plays? Maybe we’re saving them for OU.

by MRMAGOO on Sep 6, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

This was an analysis of the defense.

And no I didn’t see Beau getting open much. He’s just not much of a player.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 6, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although Oklahoma struggled with Utah St.

That game has me worried. I saw a fair amount of times where players looked like they didn’t know/were unsure of where to line up. Need to get that fixed quickly. Oklahoma runs a fast paced offense, last I checked. Seemed to be a couple communication breakdowns. The open field tackling left something to be desired. There was one quick pass play where Jenijie came down and was one on one with the WR. He never broke down, completely missed the tackle. I cringed at the play because it looked very ’09ish. Murray and Broyles are very explosive for Oklahoma. If we make similar mistakes against Oklahoma, they will make us pay.

Overall, I was impressed with the defense for many of the reasons that are stated in the article. I’m glad a lot of guys got some live game reps. I was losing my mind watching the pride the 3rd team defense displayed on that goal line stand at the end. Proud moment.

One more thing: Where in the world was Gerald Demps? I saw him on kickoff team, so I know he was healthy enough to play. Can’t believe he didn’t get in at saftey. Especially looking at the questionable play of Bright and Harley. I would have liked to see Demps play the Harley Nickel LB spot a little.

by 504Nole on Sep 6, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I have similar worries

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 7, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmmmm...

You had me doubting myself. Had to go back and look. It wasn’t the last play. Sorry. It was one of the last plays on the goal line stand. He came around the line and stopped the running backs momentum cold. Was a great shot.

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by onebarrelrum on Sep 6, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

good stuff.

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by truecolors on Sep 6, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

any way that i could find a replay of the game online?

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by RollNole5 on Sep 6, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry man, not sure.

Might be able to find good stuff on Youtube eventually.

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by onebarrelrum on Sep 7, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

for the torrent:

http://tenyardtracker.com/

search FSU

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by harper.rb on Sep 7, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Harper

Im in China and did not know this site existed. Appreciate it. I found the replay under the search : Florida State

by LincolnHighNole on Sep 7, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for that I saw this on another thread, its great!

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by RollNole5 on Sep 8, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

LAMO
Hopefully he can keep the energy up and not let it over flow into the parking lot, you know, where the cars are

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by ricobert1 on Sep 6, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

LAMO? That's not nice

Rec for OBR as I love the same line.

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by DKfromVA on Sep 6, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO*

FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.

by ricobert1 on Sep 6, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Telvin will be a much better player than people think

Jimbo stated at his NSD presser that Telvin might be the best player in the entire class. Hyperbole? Yes. Just hope he can put on a few more pounds

by westcoastnolefan on Sep 6, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Landry Jones

I hear people on here, not respecting Landry Jones, he passed for 3,198 yards last year and he is a jr. this year. You should always respect your opponent.

by rspknole1 on Sep 6, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Ponder overthrow?

The ball ponder threw to willie was it a overthrow or did he just miss catching the td pass?

by seminole4 on Sep 6, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

tall pass to avoid the coverage

not exactly a high percentage throw, would have loved to see 82 make the catch, but it was a tough one.

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by harper.rb on Sep 6, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The defensive line like Bud said will be downright beastly next season.

I just hope they are down right beastly by Miami and beyond because we can lose to OU and still have a great season.

by Legal_Seminole on Sep 7, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Dent played some in the 4th qtr.

They threw Dent a 9 route, but it wasn’t really catchable, and it was defended pretty well. Demps only played ST. I didn’t see him on defense at all, and I really want to know why considering the play of other guys.

by 504Nole on Sep 7, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since it hasn't been mentioned, as far as I've seen...

- or maybe I’m forgetting having seen it -

I would like to express some appreciation for the fact that, even after a couple “big plays” by the Samford receivers, a safety made it over to the sideline to knock them out of bounds before they got to the endzone.

by arrdub on Sep 7, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Just watched the game again on DVR

I noticed on Harris’s Interception a interesting play by Werner. Instead of going straight after the QB at the snap, he took one step and saw the RB begin to flare out to the flats, recognizing the play he stayed with the RB instead of going after the QB and took away the underneath route. This probably didn’t cause the INT since they were running a screen and the QB looked at the receiver the whole play, but it’s refreshing to know that our DEs are being coached to be aware of what’s going on in the play and to take away options for the opposing team. Very disciplined play by ze German.

by FLAK8 on Sep 8, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Showed that great awareness

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Sep 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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