2011 Recruiting Discussion Thread #10 [CLOSED]
by DA-2 on Sep 6, 2010 1:17 AM EDT
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Notes:
- James Wilder commits 08.14.10 Removed Nick Waisome 08.14.10
- Arrington Jenkins added. 08.29.10.
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2012 DT Dalvon Stuckey to FSU. 09.11.10.
FAQ:
1. Will FSU take 2 WRs now instead of just Rashad Greene?
This is more likely with the dismissal of Jarmon Fortson. FSU is loaded at wide receiver and doesn't need to take another. FSU could have as many as 13 wide receivers in 2011. That's more than optimal and is not a good use of finite resources (85scholarships). However, this answer likely depends on the future of Taiwan Easterling (baseball, but when?) and Cam Wade (don't see many non-contributing 5th-year seniors on the roster). The coaches will be in the best position to determine this, and we are not going to second guess their move here.
2. What's up w/ Tony Steward?
This is a Clemson-FSU battle. Clemson is in desperate need of linebackers because its current crop lacks both quality and numbers. Plus, Steward's idol is Ernie Sims, who was coached by Clemson LB coach Kevin Steele. Steward named Clemson his leader following the camp. Despite this, we are confident in FSU's position with him. Steward is very respectful and has said good things about every school he visits. Clemson will be an underdog in 4-5 games this season and it would be hard to see them land the top LB prospect in the nation from out of state while finishing with 5 or 6 losses. While we are mindful that Clemson can promise him an immediate starting job playing for Ernie Sims' former coach while FSU cannot (FSU is loaded with linebacker talent), we think FSU is in good position at the present time and that FSU's position will only improve from here. It will really depend on whether the kid prefers immediate playing time or the better program.
3. Are Bell, Drew and Steward silents?
This rumor seems to originate from another board. These rumors stem all the time ever year. Anyone can be an insider on the internet, and can roll the dice for internet credibility. Bell, Steward and Drew all seem to be pretty high on Florida State. There's a great chance they could all be in Tallahassee in Fall 2011, but there's no credible proof at this point that any are silents. Bell is down to FSU and Ole Miss, Steward is down to FSU and Clemson, and Drew is between FSU and UGA.
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Steward, Bell, Drew & Co. seemed to have a great time at the opener
Great sign. I think they loved the team & the coaches.
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Brisset looked very impressive to me today. He has a cannon and is a very impressive runner.
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haha yeah I saw that as he was walking off the field. Coach was holding him back
They did get some terrible calls there at the end…scored 2 times but the refs didn’t call it.
That's the most emotion I've ever seen out of that kid...
his interviews are like watching paint dry…
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Caption says he thinks the refs are #1.
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Greene just made a big time catch going and getting the ball at its peak in the STA vs Skyline game.
brisset
couldn’t throw it in the ocean from the beach watching that game.. he was ok on the short to short mid, anything beyond that not so good.. oleary appears to be a pretty good athlete.. took a couple plays off and jogged around a bit though.. they got screwed big at the end there. national highschool football association will have a good look at that i bet…
O'Leary is amazing
And I’m pretty sure Brissett could throw a football in the ocean if he was standing on a beach.
Oleary was playing like 4-5 positions.
must have been exausted.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
On the other hand, I was very impressed by Brissett. His offensive line could not block Glenville, so Dwyer adjusted by using their sprint out passing game often. It limited his opportunities to pass downfield.
Get the kid a redshirt year, some good coaching, and complete dedication to being a quarterback, and you’ll have a special guy at the position.
you should feel good about O'Leary.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
I hear that we're in good position for O'Leary
but he’s also interest in Miami… did you see what Hankerson did in the FAMU game? The point is not that Miami throttled FAMU, but that the TE was the main receiver in the Miami O.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
I heard there was some news on Tavares Pressley. Did we decide to keep him on the team or will we have an extra scholly for the 2011 class?
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For the sake of the kid I hope we keep him
For the sake of the program I hope he gets his degree and we move on. Hard to say that but college football is a business.
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He's a Senior, and all the reports from his injury said this was his final year of eligibility
so, news is either he got the medical hardship or didn’t, probably gone
Pretty sure they said
on Rivals that Pressley was going to get his degree and move on.
Not 100% sure I’m remembering right though.
Pressley is not applying for a Medical Hardship
he will graduate and move on.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
Best move for all involved
He wouldn’t see the field next year IMO
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by NoleThruandThru on Sep 7, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I took him off the roster when he tore his ACL
No way does that guy get a 6th year. Not with the talent FSU is bringing in.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Why does ESPN not list us as one of the leaders for Kevin Grooms?
They list Tennessee Volunteers, Mississippi Rebels, Rutgers Scarlet Knights, Oregon Ducks, Kansas State Wildcats. I thought the rumor was that if he had made it up to the Jimbo Camp, he would’ve committed. Has anything happened between now and then? For some reason, I never hear anything about this kid.
ESPN > Rivals right now
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by NoleThruandThru on Sep 7, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask and ye shall receive
They probably have those listed as his leaders because that’s what he says himself….
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-kevin-grooms-recruitment-090710,0,1789257.story
For what?
All the info you need is right here. It might not be real time to the second updates but that’s not worth $10 per month to me.
yeah I wasn't gonna join either.
I love this site. Just wondering, cuz everyone’s saying that this is the new and improved rivals.com
its going to take a while for them to pick up steam.
itll be interesting
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Miami Jackson OL Ruben Carter plans to be at #FSU for their game against #BYU Sept 18 for an unofficial visit.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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I couldsee it
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Ray Drew
I spoke with for about 5 minutes at halftime. He was there with his family. He was wuite surprised I recognized him as know one else seemed to. After me, people took notice. But anyways, I told him he was already a household name among FSU faithful and I told hime to get used to it. He actually walked over to me and man is he big! Every bit of 6’5" and 240 to 250. Really nice kid and very respectful. I asked him about his game on Friday and it was a big win for his team and he told me a sack or two, a forced fumble, and several tackles, so in his words, “he had a very good game”. I was with my little brother who is a freshman and I joked to Drew, “make sure my kid brother goes to church”. Drew laughed and I shook his hand wishing him good luck and I told hime I was looking forward to seeing him the Garnet & Gold. He got a big smile on his face after that. I really think FSU is the team to beat for him.
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Sep 7, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Great story, he does seem like a great guy, and would be a great get for us.
Hope you are right.
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If I was nervous about my decision
I’d smile when someone said that too. That’s a good story (my friend’s dad sits right in front of the section where players sat, so my buddy and I before the game were just hanging out there, I think it was pretty clear to him that we knew who he was), I just hope it all pans out.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I am getting really excited about this recruiting class.
I think we are in really good position (chance of commiting very likely) with:
Ray Drew
Giorgio Newberry
Ruben Carter
Tony Steward.
In addition, I think we have a reasonable shot (chance of commiting likely) at:
Jacoby Brisset
Nick O’leary
Assuming we land 4 out of those 6 this class will be ridiculous! Am I missing anybody?
I don't think he's a lock anywhere
But I believe Bama is his leader currently. Or they are right there with the Cocks.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Yep
Read the same thing from a couple of reputable posters on 2 different boards. We, Miami and Bama are all window dressing.
man it would be great to luck into getting him here though.
maybe our staff can pull off the miracle.
Not gonna happen IMO
It’s a waste of time if he doesn’t visit by himself (Except for the positive PR).
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure when his visit is.
But what if he comes when guys like Williams and Wilder are also here?
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from the sound of it, Clowney will nag Williams and Wilder about taking a look at his Cocks.
Seems to be his MO to recruit for them on his visits.
But I don't care what he says to them.
I could understand if we schedule some uncommitted guys at the same time.
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Oh I know, I don't care either. Neither Williams nor Wilder will end up at UCSe.
Odds of him flipping Williams are the same as the odds of Williams flipping him. About 0.
Yes, according to most.
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Couple notes.
Chris Casher is a Mobile area ATH to keep an eye on for 2012. Dad’s apparently a big FSU fan and Craig is on the case.
Brandon Fulse apparently said he’s a few months away from making a decision.
And Dante Fowler, Jr listed FSU and UF as his early leaders. Mentioned he called the FSU staff the other day and talked to Elliot, Dawsey and Fisher.
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I mentioned Casher a few days ago
he was recently on campus. Folks from Auburn think FSU is a legit threat to pull him OOS.
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by NoleThruandThru on Sep 8, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Hm, guess I missed it.
At 6’4 what is his best position?
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LB or DE
its going to be difficult to get him out of Alabama.
"…You can't get enough Lonnie Pryors on your football team." -Eddie Gran
Like with any good player.
But we’ve got a good shot from the get go. Doesn’t appear we’re playing catch up.
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O'Leary suspended?
Caught part of a headline on a crawl that said O’Leary was suspended by the FHSSA for flipping off the ref on Monday. Dwyer coach said they would forfeit the games rather than play without him.
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
by mmmCheese on Sep 9, 2010 12:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
crap...should've checked the fanposts
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by mmmCheese on Sep 9, 2010 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I saw him do it live. And laughed.
The fix was in big time for that game. I mean…wow. First they called back a relatively clear TD reception (the receiver’s knee landed in the end zone well ahead of the rest of his body).
But the worst of it came with the final two plays. Jacoby Brisett tried to dive it in from the 1 and drove the pile, and appeared to break the plane of the goal as the refs blew the whistle. They blew it as the pile was still moving forward, deeper into the endzone. Then spotted it just inside the 1 yard line.
The next, and final, play was the really incredible one. Brisset dove again, and clearly got into the endzone, I mean, by at least 2-3 feet. Then the pile jumped on him. The refs did not stop the clock to spot the ball, and essentially let time expire, then claimed he didn’t get in.
Personally, after all that, I’m surprised O’Leary contained himself as well as he did.
Matt Williams (juco OL) to official for UF game.
His final of 3 currently scheduled officials. Cal and Illinois are his other 2.
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Scout says 290.
I had no idea he was that tall until you just mentioned it though.
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I wouldn't have known if it wasn't mentioned while were discussing Farhenkrug...
He’s a monster. If we got both of them, they’d provide quite the little punch on the OL…
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Is there film of him anywhere?
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Has anybody seen Dalvon Stuckey?
He is class of 2012 and he is getting ready to commit in a couple of weeks, it sounds like. From what I have read he is going to be a Nole, but I have not seen any film on him. Is he any Good? He has great size that is for sure.
And he's only a sophomore in that film?
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WOW!!!
Thanks, Kid looks like a BEAST. 6’3 295??He definately is a BIG BOY.
does anyone know anything about evaluating DT talent?
what do you think of the Stuckey film? I didn’t see anything but raw talent. That said, he’s only a HS So & Jimbo has offered. Thx
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Stuckey would be a great pick up and will probably land on the ESPN 150.
He used to have just offers from some smaller schools, but bigger fish have started swimming around including Bama. Just saw an article about him today where he says FSU is his #1. Probably the same one you saw Jturner, but I will link it for other people.
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=rivals-1124131
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
This kid plays for a very small team in the middle of nowhere.
The fact that he’s accumlated the offers he has is pretty impressive.
I hope this kid ends up in G&G….
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Ya, on size alone I like this kid
We’re going to be stout across the lines for the foreseeable future it seems.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Is there film on here somewhere?
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Oh my bad.
I thought I was replying to the Matt Williams thread.
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Does that happen very often where Yahoo publishes a free recruiting article done by a Rivals guy?
Because I saw that article on WC earlier in the day yesterday and assumed we were Stuckey’s leader, but WC is charging for it, so I didn’t get to read it. I’ve never seen something like that before.
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Yahoo owns Rivals
So Yahoo sports and Rivals will cross publish from time to time
by osceolafan2.0 on Sep 10, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that.
I’d never seen Yahoo publish a recruiting story like that for free. Especially one that their member sites was using to sell subscriptions.
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Stuckey is a Monster.
He’s also leaning Nole. Where did you hear he was committing? Very very good news if true.
NM, I should've clicked the link provided ;-)
Huge get for us when he pulls the trigger. And what a way to get our class rolling for next year with him and Williams aboard.
Mario Edwards Jr., Dante Fowler, Stuckey.
I’m giddy about how our DL class might look next year. Throw in studs like Drew and Bell this year….sheeeesh.
It's hilarious
when I talk w/ outsiders who only pay attention to national media, who are completely oblivious to what is going on in Tallahassee. They don’t realize that we’re on the following track:
- 2010 – top 20 team, play in conference championship (w/ a decent chance to win)
- 2011 – top 10-15 team, win conference championship
- 2012 & thereafter – top 10 team, win conference championship, compete for national championship.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
Much interest in Moore for next year?
And Jacobs could be in the 2012 class also.
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Bobby Hart will take an official to UF
for the LSU game, per ThaRinger
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
tell him to talk Jernigan into coming to Tally
won’t happen, I know. But wouldn’t you just love to see a gators’ faces if we pulled Wilder and Jernigan from them?
im never really worried about our O-line recruits
I feel like there’s not a huge demand for the type of guys we go after. I think if we get guys with a specific body type and a great work ethic we’ll be fine for the duration of Trickett’s coaching career at FSU.
With the other positions in football i think “god-given” talent plays a huge role in the success of players. With OL i feel like we can “build players from nothing”. We get guys we like. Shape them the way we want. Teach them the techniques. Watch them grow into stud players.
As long as we have guys who want to put in the time and enough depth to have a mostly Junior-Senior starting line we’ll be successful there
There are interesting cultural (& possibly regional) differences re officials from verbal commitments
Michigan, for example, doesn’t allow players who have verbally committed to take officials elsewhere; UF really frowns on it—it could get you banished by UM. We do. This is interesting b/c when I talk with friends who are die-hard Michigan fans, for example, they learn that someone like Karlos Williams is taking officials and they infer that these other programs have a legit chance at getting him to de-commit from FSU. When I tell them that Karlos is only visiting to have a back-up plan in case of a football apocolypse (e.g., Jimbo leaves, etc.), they don’t believe me… they still consider Karlos a soft verbal.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
just tell them, these are 17 and 18 year old kids, getting to go places they never though possible
for FREE, shoot, I’d be going to USC, Michigan, Texas, Alabama, and Hawaii if they offered me official visits (although I think Hawaii really limits their’s to only those they think will commit because of cost) because they are either meccas of college football (Bama and UM) or awesome places. (before anyone says why not FSU, I’m originally from Pensacola and could go on my own dime).
I’ve always thought that because kids take visits after committing makes them a soft verbal is one of the dumbest recruiting thoughts out there. These are kids, they want to go to these places for free, and sometimes want to recruit for their school. And some do have legitimate interest.
Karlos is the recruit I am least worried about in this class.
feel pretty confident on all the guys we have committed.
Karlos is definitely at the top though in terms of confidence. Put Stample on there, Mitchell (who I always seem to forget about…in part because he is so solid)
I think some people are just idiots.
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by tricknole on Sep 10, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
From my understanding, ESPN lists offers in no particular order.
Are you basing this on an article that expressly says we lead, or just the recruit profile page?
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
by Caveman Mafia on Sep 13, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Profile Page
With the way they place the teams, I believe they have it in order who is the favorite first.
No they don't
ESPN will have a team that a kid has dropped or that isn’t even recruiting the kid anymore at the top of the list
by osceolafan2.0 on Sep 13, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
does anyone know his size,
I know he is real young and still growing. ESPN has him as 6’5 298 but who knows when that was taken.
6'4" 283 in January according to verified camp numbers on Rivals.
Don’t think ESPN’s are verified but it’s possible those are relatively accurate numbers if he’s grown.
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We would take him of course but
who doesnt get in then….Beverly/freeman? No way do we take 4 RB’s.
Would he ever consider being a slot reciever?
I know he likes FSU and Eliot a lot I hope we can get him some how
Not just a WR but a RB who would split out time to time
plus I thought Beverly was going to be our FB after Pryor but maybe I am wrong
Beverly would be an excellent "fullback" in the mold of Pryor.
EXCELLENT.
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agree
Beverly is very similar to Pryor, now that I think of it
by fsufrenzy911 on Sep 10, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Skillset. Style.
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I'm here every day. I just don't always post.
Financial Accounting and Reporting 2 is kicking my butt.
2 days till Samford. 09.04.10.
Alright...thought you'd gone AWOL.
If it makes you feel any better, I didn’t even remember the distinction between debits and credits when I started my accounting job. I sure as heck don’t remember that calculator-based present value stuff.
You have no idea how helpful this little sentiment was.
As most content from Acct 1 and 2 have pretty much been wiped from my mind.
Bring back Jeff Bowden...as a pińata.
by TheNole9Yards on Sep 11, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
You are not the first to get kicked
Accounting is a profession that just keeps on kicking, you don’t have to be glutton for punishment to succeed, but it sure helps
We need to get Coley and the staff.to expand their recruiting to Brisbane, Australia. Maybe a gold mine down there.
Check this guy out. I may be very late with this.
He is all Bama, but there may be more from the Down Under.
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2010/9/9/1671971/more-on-jesse-williams
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Yea, way late.
People were talking about that guy a few months ago but we weren’t recruiting him out of juco in AZ(?) and it just slid on by. There’s no reason to recruit outside the southeast really, aside from a few guys here and there. No need for internationals. Too much time/expense to recruit them.
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Bjoern says hi
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
by Caveman Mafia on Sep 10, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We flew to Germany?
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I wasn't serious about going international. Even though we already have some German Flavor on the DL.
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Much like that DT Alabama has, he was recruited in the US.
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Yeah, like Bjoern(Connecticut).
Hopefully it will be more hidden talent that will pursue football like a Bjoern and a Jesse Williams. I should’ve elaborated a bit more in my original post about our staff recruiting international kids. Only in cases like Bjoern and Jesse would be the exception. I agree with your post to my original comment too.
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I'm not so sure how much of a hidden talent Williams is according the the Bama article
he held offers from alsmost everyone and was the top JUCO prospect in the nation
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Agreed....he is scary
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
by Caveman Mafia on Sep 10, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Any news on Javorius Allen
He is from Lincoln. I don’t think you can let a kid in your back yard leave…
He's Bama's if they want him
Don’t think he and FSU are even on each other’s radar ATM
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 11, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
That pipeline is gone
And frankly we don’t need to get screwed by that school again. Having Lowndes and First Coast is fine by me.
Totally agree
Wish he was a nole too….maybe he can be our 2nd wr.
Buck is going to be a very good player, just not on our team.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
Where was the breakdown?
And how did we get screwed? I have no idea and just would like to know. And ESPN has us as his second behind Alabama. Are the bridges burned? Who talked about who’s mama? JK.
Bridges burned (as I understand it)
b/c we won’t take just “any” Lincoln player in order to get the top talent anymore. Short version.
If someone can explain in it more detail I’ll leave it to them, as anything more I can provide would be a broken telephone version.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
wow. that's a shock after his consecutive sub-90 performances.
Although it’s been pointed out that he averaged over 5 ypc in the Manatee game.
What’s your take on him at RB, SWFL? Will he bust like a lot of Noles are saying?
even more impressive, Ely (the Plant QB didn't play)
the defense could key on him and he still performed well
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Stuckey!!!!!
I know he’s for next year, but I hope everyone realizes Stuckey is a stud. Big time get.
I'm not panicked.
But I think the game in general swallowed it. He announced well before the game started I thought.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
"Correct, Sir Trick."
yeah, he did, but I was hoping after the game we'd have something
as things stand though, I guess the thread won’t happen. Ah well, welcome about Dalvon!
Is this going to be a big deal to players like
Ray Drew and Nick O’Leary, who it seems are playing a wait-see game?
Georgia lost. Miami lost.
Shouldn’t matter a bit. That is, unless we do something similar against BYU….which we won’t.
These kids aren’t dumb. They know OU is a top ten team.
Im pretty sure most people thought we were going to lose this game
We lost a game we were expected to lose….move on and beat BYU.
We come out and play well against BYU at home
and show we have pride after a loss that will help in my opinion.
Plus have some of those recruits at the game with a lard crowd
Yeah, people are getting fatter all the time ;-)
Is the game sold out? I’ll be embarassed if it isn’t. Had kind of an excuse against lowly samford, but BYU had better be packed. It’s Jimbo’s first home game against a competent opponent.
BYU lost 14-35 to Air Force. They're about to become 1-2 after we play em.
And I hope our recruits are watching when we take our anger out from last week on some Cougars.
We need this kid.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/floridastate/football/recruiting/player-Dorial-Green-98834
SCALP'EM
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wish we did though
SCALP'EM
2010 New Beginning in Tallahassee
Ponder for Heisman'10
Beat Oklahoma
Jesus is Lord!
we need playmakers
i think this offensive performance did show a need to upgrade skill talent on offense , guys like aaron green, nick oleary, kelvin benjamin become much more of a necessity than a luxury. Would we give kevin grooms a look on offense?
I really think D Free is gonna be a monster at RB
by FSuni on Sep 12, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
REC'D
Kid is a beast. Underrrated for sure but is starting to garner attention.
by FEARTHESPEAR! on Sep 12, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I couldn’t agree more. He seems more polished than Wilder and it may seem crazy but I’m more excited about Freeman than Wilder.
The biggest reason we needed Wilder is the publicity of stealing the most recognizable recruit from UF.
His contributions on the field will be the icing on the cake.
Bring back Korey Mangum — a true Nole!
How is that? I didn't say he was just like him, that would be an exaggeration.
They’re both the same size, with similar running styles. How is that an exaggeration?
FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
alright, you covered your bases with the kinda and lil bit.
I’m coming round to the idea that he’s better than Ingram.
I think so too. Definitly think he is stronger than Ingram and may have better vision too.
FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
Disagree completely
Size: I’m 5’10, and Trent is definitely shorter than me.
Strength: Richardson is a sophomore freak of nature. Wilder has a strong lower body, but I don’t expect him to be as strong as Trent is at this point in his career.
Running Style: Trent can pound or finesse. His vision is simply incredible. There’s a reason he was the best back in the nation coming out of HS.
Wilder is great, and I’m not one of those “ahh he sucks at RB blah blah blah” types, but I don’t think he’s anything close to Trent.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Whoops...Sorry...thought you were comparing WILDER
My bad!!!!
Still…Don’t think he’ll be Trent. There can be only one…
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
Come on Randy.....I wasn't saying he was going to be like Mr.407....LOL
Just that he reminds me of T Rich a lil bit. Size and running style.
FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
I hope you're right.
Trent was a stud in HS. watched a ton of his games. Man amongst boys.
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yea
i like his potential, i think wilder is gonna be a stud to but i still thin we should go hard after green were lacking that home run threat
Any ideas of
what a loss like that to OU will do to the perception in the recruiting world around our program??
small to none.
Even most Kool-aid chugging Noles knew we’d get whooped. It was uglier than we thought, but just wait till we beat on a couple teams.
Keep in mind that last year we lost six games and pulled in a top 10 class.
High Schools
Which ones do we have pipelines at? Where do have to repair feelings? Where can we basically not go to?
Everette Dawkins also
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Yes it's a joke.
The whole reason we took Bright was to try and start a pipeline there with there 2010 kids.
by nolesblogger on Sep 14, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree not a pipeline
was just pointing out a previous player from the school (2008 class for Dawkins, 2009 for Bright and unfortunately loss of Corey Miller for 2010)
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Brandon Willis was supposed to be even more Nole than Miller
never got him either. And it all started with those damn hostesses.
we were close to getting Lattimore, too
by fsufrenzy911 on Sep 15, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Never were close to getting Lattimore
TN broke down his sham of a recruitment like no other
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 15, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Jimbo wanted him bad.
But from the sounds of it he was never anything other than a cock? Kinda like Clowney this year.
I was going to include him also
but didn’t and only mentioned Miller since he actually committed.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi
"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
Who owns the
Glades Central pipeline? Would love to form a connection with them. They always have top notch players
by fsufrenzy911 on Sep 13, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That will never happen
Too many Gators in Belle Glade
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 14, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone have any input or thought about Shaq Beverly?
First Coast is our pipe line right? What are the chances that we get Eric’s little brother? My parents live in Jax, do I need to make a road trip and talk to this kid or is he following big bro…..
FSU et. al. turning up the heat on Ha'Sean
This kid would probably play FS (IMO he might be a good fit at CB), and would be #2 on the depth chart next year. KLOS would be #2 SS. Would provide much needed depth.
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
This shows what a good recruiting staff can do in the face of common perceptions
Not our staff, USC’s. The fact that a Fla kid would have have the briefest thought about going out there with the way they looked the first two weeks and the sanctions is crazy. And people were worried about how the OU game would affect recruiting.
by osceolafan2.0 on Sep 14, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
It's USC...
I think they’ll find a way to get HCD out to visit if he really wants to come.
Yaknowwhatahmeen?
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Lets get a DP pipeline going
I know there is no place for D. Hart in this class and I like our RB recruits better anyway, but as a DP alum I love watching Hart play. HaHa and K. Williams would make our 2012 secondary look so scary that Mark Stoops would be having flashbacks to his 2001 secondary at Miami. I hope Williams and Shaw can get HaHa to switch to the Noles, if he committed to Bama because of the depth chart than he should take a quick look at our lack of safeties and realize he can be in the 2 deep as a true froshman with a chance to battle for the starting job right away.
"Sometimes, the most unfair thing you do to a person is to allow him to continue his employment after the situation has become untenable." - Bobby Bowden
Irony?
I saw that movie, recently....
“Let’s Start a DP Pipeline”
by Dark Stranger on Sep 16, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone have any video on Carter?
I hear his name alot but haven’t seen him in action. Also, he’s listed at 285 right now—how big do you think Trickett/Jimbo want this kid to play at?
Accountabilty is back in Tallahassee....
"Jacob Coker has come on and really become a force at 6'5", 225 pounds. We've gone to more of a pro-style offense and distribute the ball around a little bit more," added Coach Perry.
I’m glad to read that he is getting some more experience tossing the ball. Also, @ 6’5/225 as a senior he is on pace to be a big guy once Vic Villoria gets a hold of him.
I linked the wrong article there.
Here is the correct one.
by Gulfport Nole on Sep 16, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Justin Hopkins reporting 2012 Alabama QB Jameis Winston will be in town this weekend
recruited by Coach Craig.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ohiostate/football/recruiting/player-Jameis-Winston-102384
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
That's quite a day, what do we know about the kid?
Maybe the next big name for FSU could be Mario (Edwards and Pender) much like we have the Christian’s, Nigel’s
We could have the Mario Brother’s, one that dominates in the running game and another in knocking out QB’s
Well, I found this
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=rivals-1122495
"I’ve been hearing from Florida State and Tennessee," Pender said. "I’m keeping in contact with them right now. Actually, I haven’t talked to Tennessee yet. I call the Florida State coaches, though."
"I went up there for a camp," he said of Florida State. "It went well. I got to talk to the coaches afterward. They liked me a lot and an offer could come this season if I do well. They want to see a little bit of game film and see what they see from that."
"They want to see me on film and want me to send it off to them after a few games. They seem to like me a lot."
"Florida State, they stand out to me right now," Pender said. "They’ve always been my school. I’ve always wanted to go there."
Please offer this kid and get him committed. FINALLY WE CAN HAVE OUR OWN DAMN PERCY HARVIN TYPE GUY, instead of always having to listen to how _ at Florida is the next Percy Harvin type-player. This kid seems REAL good. I don’t care if you’re playing against the worst school in Florida, these are 17-18 year olds he’s playing against and to run for 344 yards against peers is ridiculous.
Pender and his teammate Dumas are both said to have interest in FSU
But as far as Pender goes……………Damn this kid is about to blow up!
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 18, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
Also
I think it is absolutely imperative that we re-establish a presence in SWFLA. Pender and Mike Dumas are examples of talent that actually have an interest in FSU. I’m irritated at the fact 2011 talents like Blakely, Sammy Watkins, and Bellamy had no real interest in FSU ( Though we may have screwed ourselves outta Bellamy.I’m no insider so I’ll leave it at that. No use pissing people off). Maybe the Wilder commitment can assist us in our effort to maintain a foot in that area.
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 18, 2010 1:04 AM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't include Tampa in SW FL.
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"Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed."
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I watched his game yesterday. He is a PLAYMAKER
We will have to fight for this kid. He’ll be very heavily reruited
by fsufrenzy911 on Sep 18, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
there's probably some who didn't show up, but
Green
Therezie
Carter
Blanks
by fsufrenzy911 on Sep 18, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think that the relationship that some of the coaches have with other teams
JF with Bama, Stoops with OU and AZ has any to help with recuiting for us and these schools. Lets say we have a guy instate that we dont need or would fit that the other school do you think the coaches would help out these teams or they help us out. Sounds crazy but seen that we are all in Def conf. and most have mutal threats like UF. I know it sounds crazzy but If I know UF was after a kid we didnt have a chance or didnt need as much as Bama or if we saw someone off the radar that Bama could use and get them to him before UF found out wouldnt that make since.
Also sorry for the spelling I know there is spell check but Im about to head to work and
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Jernigan also admits that the recent bad publicity at Florida has had a small effect on him. The Gator football program has had 30 players arrested since Urban Meyer took over in 2004.
“It definitely makes you wonder [what’s going on there],” Jernigan said.
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