FSU Opponent Preview: Virginia Tech Hokies
by norcal_nole on Jan 8, 2011 12:11 AM EST
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PrintFlorida State (11-4, 1-0) wraps up their six game road swing with a trip through Blacksburg to take on the Virginia Tech Hokies (9-4, 0-1). FSU is looking for its 2nd ever 2-0 start in ACC play. The Hokies have been beset with injuries, though their starting 5 is still very talented – basically, they’re a team with no depth. The most serious injury is to senior guard Dorenzo Hudson (foot – out for year) as he averaged 15.2 PPG last season. He attempted to pull an Uche Echefu and play an entire season with an injury that would have been a shoe-in for a medical redshirt, but in the early going he was a liability on the court (offensive rating of 88.6) and is finally sitting for the rest of the year. Hopefully the NCAA will grant him a medical shirt. JT Thompson, Allen Chaney and Cadarian Raines are also out for the season, though none played a role this year, so the Hokies have played their entire season with the current roster (minus Hudson). The wildcard is beastly forward Jeff Allen who has been held out of 70% of this week's practices with a groin sprain, but is expected for the game.
Even without their injuries the Hokies are still the Malcolm Delaney show. The senior guard, who’s played 93% of his team’s minutes, is averaging 19.1 PPG to go along with 4.1 assists (and 4.1 turnovers). For his career he’s been a decent 3-pt shooter, but this year he’s shooting at elite status (43.6%). He’s not a spot up shooter though, as he loves to penetrate and force contact, and with the injury to Kyrie Irving he’s likely the most difficult player in the ACC to guard off the dribble. Leonard Hamilton has been experimenting this season more than usual with zone defenses, so it will be interesting to see how he game-plans for Delaney. The Hokies don’t have any other 3-pt threats, so look for help on drives trying to force the kick-out. Delaney is loose with the ball, and FSU is extremely good at flooding passing lanes. I’d like to see Delaney face guarded when he’s without the ball, but that’s not Hamilton’s style.
Jeff Allen, if he’s healthy, is a better rebounder than anyone on the Seminole roster, and is considered elite nationally in cleaning up defensive rebounds. Sophomore Erick Green is a star in the making, generating tremendous stats in limited minutes, including a 4.2:1 assist/turnover rating, an offensive rating of 117.3, and a steal rate better than Chris Singleton’s. His emergence has allowed Delaney to play off the ball, coming off screens where he's most effective.
The Hokies are coached by Seth Greenberg, in his 8th season at VT (7 in the ACC). He’s taken them to the NCAA Tournament one time.
KenPom has us as a 5 point underdog in this one, while Vegas has it -4. Tipoff is 3 pm on ESPN2.
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Bigger underdog to Va Tech than we were to Baylor?
Wow, how far we have fallen…
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Though I support the Noles
I can’t stand to watch anymore.
by 30yearnole on Jan 8, 2011 8:28 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I'm almost with you. I watched the first half of the Auburn game & could not watch anymore.
First time I turned off a Nole game early. The D is great but the turnovers & O is the same putridness!
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Wasted potential & opportunites
Same players, different staff, different result. I’d gladly give up some D for some offense. People, or fans for that matter, don’t say hey let’s go the watch the noles play cause the D is awesome. It’s clear that Ham doesn’t have a process and due to that the good results will not be forthcoming. When somebody at FSU Central gets a clue I’ll change my tune but until then watching is a totally useless and frustrating endeavor.
by 30yearnole on Jan 8, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How have we looked early?
I’m not watching on ESPN3 so I’m missing the first part of the game.
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elaboration?
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hit a sweet little turn around J
He’s actually played well this afternoon.
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Is Miller still not playing?
Groin right?
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not a true point anyways.
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Thought he was just better than anyone else for the position
maybe Kitchen is better
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt in my mind Kitchen is better.
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I Ian was competent wouldn't Kitchen be even better playing off the ball?
Theoretically speaking
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
If*
gees I am killing it with errors today
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
OMG *geez
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, Kitchen would be better off the ball but I don't think moving him to the 2 to put Miller at point makes us worse.
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Loucks with his 3rd turnover of the game...
He’s so awful. I’m sick of looking at him touch the basketball.
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9 turnovers. 8 field goals.
I don’t like Loucks either, Corn.
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We have to have more than 9...
They showed a graphic that said we had 8, and I’ve counted 4 since then….
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It's 13 now.
Perhaps ESPN’s gamecast was a little slow.
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ESPN says 11 TO's and 10 FG's
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Where do you get the FTA*.4?
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Dean Oliver uses .4, Pomeroy uses .45,
but basically, 40-45% of free thow attempts end possessions. It’s the wildcard, but the formula works.
Makes sense. I'd just never thought of adding that in.
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I swear to GOD IF DERWIN KITCHEN DOESN'T QUIT PICKING UP HIS GODDAMN DRIBBLE AT HALFCOURT EVERY DAMN POSSESSION
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That was Kitchen, not Jordan?
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Jordan turned it over ultimately
But Derwin has done that one 3 different posessions before he gets to the damn midline.
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I mean, it's one thing if you're being pressed, but the defender is not pressing him...he's giving him a 10ft cushion.
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Ah, I'm trying to read some stuff and "watch" the game.
Kitchen would be damn good if he were just more aggressive. Way too passive.
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Derwin doesn't like defenders in his space...he's not a competitor
If he’s challenged, he’s GOING to give up his dribble
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Seems to be a team problem though.
Which leads me to believe it’s a coaching problem.
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Yes, cuz Jordan does it too.
Luke doesn’t pick up his dribble, but most of the times I wish he would because he will ultimately turn it over.
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Why is Peewee Jordan playing?
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I came here to post that
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Can't be worse than Loucks, I guess.
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True.
Every team should press us and play a zone. We would lose every game.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
I said this in another GDT
If I am a coach, and I play FSU, I don’t care WHAT defensive scheme I usually run, I’m running zone against FSU. I don’t care if I have NO idea how to coach a zone D, I buy a freaking “Zone defense for dummies” book and install it in 2 days.
What a worthless team this is.
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Yup
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Why is Pierre In????!!??
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Because Hamilton is playing musical roster.
Hoping that “something” will work. It’s what he always does.
Another turnover.
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Another Dulkys miss.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Hamilton deserves to be embarassed.
What’s the damn point buying nice cars if you don’t know how to drive.
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Fify.
What’s the damn point buying nice cars if you’re a woman.
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Dude, our offense is so good.
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I'm just glad we got a good shot before half.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
At least we got a shot off instead of turning it over.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Yeah this is standard FSU offense.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
What's that guy's name, Hubert?
He laughed at our offense. That’s what, ESPN announcer/analyst #9 on the year?
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Soooooo terrible
Thank you, coach Hamilton. For getting us “relevant”, so now that when we shit the bed, ESPN calls us out instead of Raycom.
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We are do mind-numbingly bad at fundamentals
When I watch FSU games with some of my friends who play H.S. basketball, they are able to pick out everything we do wrong and are shocked at some of the little things-basic basketball 101 things-we are unable to do. Its sad that me and other HS juniors can see what we’re doing wrong. hopefully we’ll pull it together and make a run down the stretch…
by Noles n' Yankees on Jan 8, 2011 3:57 PM EST reply actions
Not gonna happen
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Dude, I didn't play basketball past 8th grade
Community/Rec league, basically….and I see stuff that I knew not to do back then. It’s almost like I’m watching a Harlem Globetrotters game and I’m rooting for the Washington Generals (or whatever they are)
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this offense SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!
singleton started 5/5, missed one, and NOBODY GIVES HIM THE DAMN BALL? is our staff not coaching how to beat the 2-3 zone or what? i see lots of passes on the perimeter, but any time theres an entry pass or drive its a turnover. WHAT DO WE DO IN PRACTICE???? I HAVE SEEN AVERAGE HIGH SCHOOL OFFENSES THAT WORK BETTER THAN THIS!!!!
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
so i repeat
WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO IN PRACTICE?? IF YOU WANT TO COACH DEFENSE, SOMEBODY HAS TO PLAY OFFENSE, SO HOW CAN YOU NOT HAVE A SEMBLANCE OF OFFENSE??
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I wonder if Spetman has really looked into hiring an offensive minded (assistant?) coach.
by Gulfport Nole on Jan 8, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
The real question is does Spetman know how horrible our offense is?
I guarantee you he can quote Ham’s graduation rate.
I’m willing to sacrifice graduation rate for offensive competency.
by Gulfport Nole on Jan 8, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
It’s funny watching all these updates from the georgetown games etc…I say “whoa…wait…when they shoot the ball it goes IN the basket?? there must be something wrong with these people…”
by Noles n' Yankees on Jan 8, 2011 4:05 PM EST reply actions
Oh I can't watch Big East/Big 12 basketball.
it just looks so much different than FSU basketball. The point guards can dribble, the big men are coordinated, the 3 point shooters make baskets, and the coaches COACH.
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Yeah I know its weird right? watching people score and stuff…
by Noles n' Yankees on Jan 8, 2011 4:09 PM EST reply actions
oh, and another thing
can we just cut dulkys and get it over with? the slumps he has are unacceptable at the high school level. you cant have 20 shot droughts and start on a high school team, so why is he still on our ACC major college team? loucks is embarrassingly nonathletic, and he turns the ball over more often than i blink, so it pains me to see him on the floor. snaer looks more lost than he did as a true freshman in the ACC, and that speaks to coaching, not work ethic. it saddens me to think what bernard james will become next year, since he only rolls over his right shoulder to shoot inside, and everyone else gets worse as they go on this team. if kreft would stop playing hack-a-player he would be a great player, but thats not gonna happen either. overall, embarrassing to see this team wearing the garnet and gold.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I'm ok with Dulkys simply because he's a great defender, and in the even that he gets on, he's our ONLY viable offensive weapon
not named Chris Singleton.
As we speak, he’s 0-6.
And I cringe when I see Luke Loucks on the floor. He’s an abomination.
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So in the event he breaks his 1.5 season drought?
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
I’ve thought about this, but I mean…who is a better option?
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nobody that would ever play for leonard hamilton
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Singleton on an off-day is a better option.
Single sick with the flu is a better option.
Singleton with a torn ACL is a better option.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
WE HAD AN ENTRY PASS FOR A SCORE!!!!!!!
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Nvm
3 straight bricks from the three
SOMEBODY DRIVE TO THE BASKET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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followed by Pink Floyd’s “another brick in the wall”
by Gulfport Nole on Jan 8, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
and shannon comes back in to miss a few shots and turn it over
yay
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
And Dulkys takes a free 3 after the whistle and STILL misses it
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Are we gonna suck next year when Singleton's gone?
Who’s going to replace him? Hell, who will replace Kitchen?
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Ham may get fired?
silver lining :)
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
I've got a thing for BYU's coach.
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I'm all for getting a mid-major's coach in.
I understand that he may not bring in the amount of talent we have now, but I honestly do not see us winning 10 games in the ACC with this team.
And the ACC SUUUUUUCKS this year.
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If the guy can win more than Hamilton I think the talent would return.
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I'm not so sure I disagree, man.
I mean, he has elevated our stock.
We ARE in the ACC.
We have produced some big time players (Thornton, Douglas, Singleton)
Teams can up their dollaz. I’m not so sure we couldn’t get the talent too, trick.
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Winning breeds more winning if you've got the right "staff" in place.
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Is he retiring soon? He's pretty young.
Is his cancer killing him?
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Should be fired after today if we can’t put up atleast 35…
by Gulfport Nole on Jan 8, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
We'll put up 35, but maybe not 50
FSU has scored less than 22 point in the first half in nearly 40% of it’s games
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
that floor is too low
if we dont put up 35 he shouldnt be allowed to even go home with the team. if we score less than 45 he should be fired today.
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Good God give the ball to Singleton and everyone just get the heck OUTTA THE WAY
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and dulkys misses an uncontested 3 after the whistle
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
SEROUSLY
Guy just said
FSU should make a new rule. If you shoot before Singleton touches the ball you should be taken out of the game
Preach Preacha!
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not get outta hand.
I mean, my dog made a similar comment earlier, and he’s 11 years old, blind, deaf, and only has 5 teeth.
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eh, that makes it easier to guard us
double singleton all night and leave dulkys wide open outside has been working pretty well as it is, so i would just add a third to singleton and leave loucks open too if FSU did that
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
dulkys MADE ONE!
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
now THATS how you go strong to the bucket
FOUL ME OR GET OUT OF THE WAY AS I SCORE!
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
hard to defend that
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
kreft back to hack-a-guy
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
tough play to make even with a 7ft wingspan
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
so you let him score, dont swat at arms
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
like what just happened?
I’d rather foul the sh* out of him
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone ever try to chug a gallon of milk in an hour?
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paid a guy to do it once
It was awesome
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
unbelievably
It stank soooo much
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Stomach cant expand that fast
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I think the fat in the milk also plays into it.
I did it once in high school. Got close to finishing, too.
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excellent job protecting the paint
asshats
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
i know i would be tempted to do it
i never have before, and i played a lot of sports for a long time, but this might be enough to push me over the edge. especially if you are either a bench guy or chris singleton if he werent playing for money this year. if this were last year, i could see singleton playing his butt off to leave early, but he has no choice this year but to leave
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
on the bright side, that was our first TO in 4 minutes this half
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
If you'd have told me Delaney would have 4 points halfway 3/4 of the way through the game
I would’ve said we’d be winning easy.
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unfortunately
we might not get to 45. Even if Tech doesn’t score the rest of the game it might go to OT
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
im sorry, no offense
but who were all these teams heavily recruiting shannon?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Had a lot of offers and a lot of interest but his ACL probably scared a lot of them away.
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thats what the guy on TV said, but i dont recall that at all
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Cal, UGA, GT, LSU, UMD, Memphis, Sota, Xavier, FSU, Auburn, Nebraska apparently all offered him.
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cuz he's a JC guy for us
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Que?
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didn't he come from junior college
Am I off my rocker?
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
No. Yes.
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lol
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm dumbfounded at how the 3 guys away from the ball just stand around....
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9 minutes left, 9 points down. I'm smelling an insurmountable lead. We lose.
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Stupid Dulkys making me look like an idiot.
Stupid foreigners.
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But 6 points in 9 minutes isn't insurmountable.
That’s all I mean.
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ouch
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Still more turnovers than field goals.
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dulkys may be back
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
2-8?
nah
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
2/2 now?
yeah
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
no
he missed 2 in between
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
no he didnt
but he did miss one ugly one, so 2/3. still much better.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
oops your right
the one after a whistle didn’t technically count, but he still missed it
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
fundamental basketball lost these days huh?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Hey, I've got an idea.
Lets foul the best offensive player in the ACC as he goes up for 3
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We do it every other game, at least.
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THATS what we recruited loucks to do
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Poor Leon Washington.
He looks like he’s freezing his balls off in Seattle
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hes getting paid enough to keep those nuts warm, i assure you
you could pay me to do my desk job outside (no movement, freeze faster) and i would bundle up and do it for that price
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
what do you mean?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
yarp
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
sux they don't feed him when he gets good position
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
16 turnovers?
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more
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
we have a super-sweet attack of the press
its like we never see the corner trap coming and cant imagine where that extra defender came from…
That is the best description I've ever heard
Well freaking done, sir.
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Surprise!!!
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
just make sure we pick up our dribble
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Glad to see that frustrates the shit out of someone else besides me...
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the thing is, there is so much blame to go around
usually the dribbler over-dribbles and gets stuck
or
the dribbler doesnt make the double commit, and has no passing lane
but more times than not, there is no one to pass to, either the guy in the middle of the court is late, or the wing players are standing at the ft line checking out the cheerleaders..
its a team-wide effort…
It all lies at Hamilton's feet. It's his mess.
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by tricknole on Jan 8, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I literally have not seen a team that is worse at breaking the press than we are.
And VT does NOT miss free throws, man.
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Remember when we were good at FTs?
At least we used to score when we got to the line.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Pretty sure Singleton double dribbled twice on that possession.
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Haha yeah shuffled them all over
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
thats our best offense
throw the ball near the rim and send 3 guys to the offensive glass…
night season coach
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
despite our offensive outburst in the 2nd
i believe this game is over…
WHERE THE HELL DID ALLEN COME FROM???
dude cant miss today
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Attention
Basketball season has been canceled due to a lack of offense.
FSU Defense 2010: Taking back 1st down.
hey now
Rix was much better than this team!
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
At least Rix showed fire and intensity.
This team just looks BEAT
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agreed, thats an insult to rix
its an insult to compare this offense to pickory harris
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
God I can't wait to read WC and see what the few remaining Hamilton nut huggers have to say.
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He can teach them how to beat a zone offense though.
And there is NO evidence to support that they do. Even if they do get shots.
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Nah, that's the "defense" of Hamilton from those few idiots on that board.
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I like how they were saying "we can still beat VT and Duke and erase the Auburn loss".
Dopes.
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Likely 30-35%
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that wasnt a foul, it should have been a jump ball
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
why isnt dulkys touching the ball on every possession?
if we want to score enough to stay in it, we have to have 3’s. he at least has a shot at it.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
i guess they dont teach FT shooting in the AF leagues
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I guess the success will start AFTER Duke beats us by 35.
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We'll probably hold Duke to 65ish points, too.
I bet we score at least 50 against Duke, and only lose by 15
Not sure if serious...
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wow, at the FT discrepancy
we make stupid fouls
Hahahaha
Anyone notice how effortlessly VT handled our press? Motion, passing lanes…amazing.
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Hamilton's overrated.
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only if you think hes an average coach
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Hey Hamilton
You are fired
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really/?
could it really happen?
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
I know man.
I mean, how much worse could we really be? I know the defense is incredible. I get that. But I’d sacrifice some of that for a team that looks adept at least on occassions.
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If this was done to his face. It would be awesome.
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FYI
I appreciate you linking that to open up in a new window.
I cant’ STAND when people link stuff and it replaces the TN thread. It makes me madder than FSU’s basketball offense.
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seriously
all my Z power is gone immediately.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
You can't just click back with all the new comments still highlighted?
And I always right click+open in new tab because I don’t trust people.
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Same, but I think I will try to link to new window myself in the future.
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lol yes I do do that
but I’m always afraid one time it won’t so I still get scared.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
snaer w/ another to
sort of an encore for us faithful…
FSU beat VT in all of the following categories
FGM, FGA, 3PM, 3PA, OREB, DREB, AST, and BLK
Unfortunately, VT made 26 MORE FREE THROWS.
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what was the TOs?
Think FSU had 13 in the first half.
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we only had 6 more TO's
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but we took 32 MORE SHOTS than VT
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
FSU
FG 22-62 3PT 7-24
Va Tech
FG18-45 3PT 1-9
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I was kidding.
Sloppiest team in the country without a doubt. Other teams look bade because they are smaller, weaker, not as athletic. But not FSU. FSU is just flat out sloppy. That, is coaching.
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oh yes
I guess my comprehension skillz are really going down from watching FSU play
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 8, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
SO G.D. POORLY COACHED!!!
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Just need more duct tape.
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at this point...
id give Loucks and Kitchen 30+
id give CS the game more or less
and all the other spots would be wide open.
No welding, just throw it all back in the crucible and reform it.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
That was my initial thought.
How’s a bra going to help this shithole coaching staff?
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In reality.....It is past that point......
short of a 11-3 run here on out. Didn’t watch the game but I could have told you what the general tone of the comments would be. Same as always. Went to dinner with the wife and didn’t miss a single frustrating, yell at the TV moment. Ham has to go……Not to tiptoe around it anymore.
Snaer
Snaer is shooting under .350 from the field. That’s lower than his 3 point percentage. Incredible.
hate to say it but
I hope the nole bb team loses the rest of their games so our freaking lame ass excuse of an ad will finally have to make a freaking decision to do something …anything…
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