Florida State dominates Duke 41-16
by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 6:27 PM EDT
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PrintThe much-injured Florida State Seminoles had yet to play a complete game on the season. Things turned around Saturday against Duke, as the 'Noles won 41-16, with a solid effort from both the offense and the defense. The performance could well be described as "clean," as FSU had few penalties or mental errors.
FSU never trailed in the game and starter E.J. Manuel tossed three passes of more than 50 yards in the first half, and the 'Noles took a 24-3 lead into halftime. FSU posted a tremendous 8.2 yards/play and looked like a different offense with its quarterback back in the fold. The 'Noles rushed for 242 yards, including 109 from freshman Devonta Freeman on 19 carries.
The defense was dominant in building the lead, did not allow a drive of more than 50 yards, notched 5 sacks, forced two turnovers, stopped 12 of 17 third downs, and allowed only 3.8 yards/play before garbage time set in.
The third quarter was a frustrating period for the Seminoles, as Duke recovered its first of 3 onside kicks. Florida State held and marched down the field on a 9-play, 52-yard TD drive that featured true freshmen on 8 of 9 plays. After that, however, Duke changed it up and had some answers for FSU's attacking defense and man coverage. After another defensive stop, Greg Dent fumbled after securing a high pass from Manuel. The call was initially ruled an incomplete, but was overturned on replay. Duke would answer with a TD, thanks in large part to the favorable field position.
Duke would again onside kick and recover, taking the ball at Florida States 45 yard line and scoring on a drive which featured two converted fourth downs. FSU then recovered Duke's onside kick (third consecutive) and cruised 39 yards in five plays for the touchdown to go up 41-16 with less than 10 minutes to play in the game.
Due to the onside kicks and the conversions, FSU ran only 24 plays in the second half and threw on only 3 of those.
Florida State lost junior defensive tackle Jacobbi McDaniel for the season with a dislocated ankle. That makes at least five FSU starters lost for the year, and countless others remain injured.
Up next: Maryland
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OL, who played?
Looks like alot of true freshmen won’t redshirt
I didn't see anyone play today that hadn't played before this game
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Tre Jackson and Josue Matias got in late in the 4th.
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thanks
didn’t see them come in (didn’t hear it mentioned)
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So, true freshmen OL that won't redshirt
Hart
Jackson
Matias
Lovelady
Barron? Pettis? Carter?
Seems like a waste of red-shirt to only use them in garbage time
Hart needed to start but the others have only played in garbage time from what I can see. Lovelady in particular could have used the extra year to gain weight.
If the article posted here this week is true then they need reps so we don't get in this sictuation again next year...
I mean with guys going down and nobody set to replace them in case of mass injuries.
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Barron and Lovelady were in on that last series as well
conspicuously, no Foose. any ideas as to why that is? is he just not panning out?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
He did play today didnt he?
I thought he took a 15 yard penalty today
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i didnt notice him on the last series, but you would have to ask the pros
it took freezing the screen to realize that walk-on Johnathan Wallace was in there though, so i didnt get good looks at who was who
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I might actually be thinking of Hicks
that took the penalty. So many different kids playing this is one of the hardest years to keep track of who is getting in the game
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Haven't noticed Foose on offense
Disappointed we are burning shirts with Foose on bench.
Maybe in 2013
We will all be better for it.
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thought Foose was hurt?
not positive though.
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yea thought so after saying it
So many players that were not expected much time this year combined with every Fr and So getting time is confusing. I mean re Fn jackon got in today. Didnt we even have a walk on play a snap lol
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Tre Jackson is our backup for both guard position so he needs snaps
FSU football is the new case study for the outliers phenomon
we did get heavier contribution
from Freeman today though;
equal from Hart, and at RT rather than LT, he looked much more comfortable there IMO
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Question,
when did garbage time “officially start” in today’s game?
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thanks,
was asking because I wanted to know at what point the 3.8 ypp our D was giving up changed to the 4.1 ypp that were the final for the game (according to the broadcast).
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From two trick onside kicks...
I knew once Mark Stoops decided to get aggressive again, our defense would show up again… Good overall game..
Need to cut out some of that blitzing
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Yea we need to find a middle ground...
Thought we got a little bit blitz happy at times… Good to mix it up from just rushing 4 all the time, but don’t know if we need to have Joyner blitzing off the edges, especially against Duke…
For all that my initial reaction to Joyner blitzing is "heck no!", then I imagine the chances that he gets a clean hit on the QB. Not sure I'd rather have anyone on the team w/ a clean shot on the QB over Joyner :)
If I had the clip from Friday where Smokey’s hovering over Deebo saying “You got knocked da…”, I’d add it here.
why?
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Oct 15, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
because it was unnecessary?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I didn't see the game, just logged on with like 5 minutes to go.
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by PalmAireNole on Oct 15, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
it was unnecessary
And it didn’t work very well.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 15, 2011 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
especially when Mike Harris whiffs at the QB
It got more pressure in the 1st half. I think Duke adjusted to it better in the 2nd.
Football is my favorite show.
It's killed us all year on 3rd down. Sigh.
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Defensive line is very good, don’t hang the corners out to dry, etc.
Stoops did give other teams something to think about though.
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to be fair, the big catches against him were pretty good plays.
He wasn’t getting beat badly- at least from what I saw.
Football is my favorite show.
I don't necessarily disagree
But great players defend “pretty good good plays”. And in this instance I didn’t see a significant hight difference (could be wrong).
what I did see was a talented CB going for the knockout hit who missed on many occasions.
I saw a few passes to his underneath when he had deep cover zone
and a few passes thrown to the outside shoulder of a receiver, exactly the place that cannot be defended.
“But great players defend "pretty good good plays” tells me you know very little about what good corner back play looks like.
And your first paragraph is meaningless
When it’s 3rd and short
When our opponents need a first down through the air
they throw at Reid. He is overmatched out there.
That's just not true.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He played very well
I am really surprised how many people started ripping on him after the amazing catch t the 1 on a lucky throw by the QB to a place that forced the WR to make an amazing play and he did. And then their was multiple people blaming Reid and some even saying bench him. He may be overated with any AA talk. But hes still a very good player. And has been beat bad at times. But has tackled better and I thought this was one of his better games. And all CB will get beat. Even LJ our best safety got beat a couple times. Just maybe the reciever was overthrown so its forgotten. Reid is not an AA but still a very good player. Just maybe not great
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 16, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't help
that people on these boards are of the belief that a cornerback ought never to get beat
by Meehl on Oct 16, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You dont think is was because they KNEW Duke was passing AND couldn't get open consistently in man.
There were a LOT of plays with 11 guys inside the 5-7 yard range of the line of scrimmage.
I think he was just pressing our advantage.
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Off the top of my head..
had to be at least Duke’s last two drives, because they never got within 3 scores.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
GREAT GAME BUT
I love Jacobbi and am hurt that we have lost ANOTHER player. Thank goodness we got Timmy Jernigan last spring and he has been a player.
"There's always opportunity in everything. I saw him, I laid the wood on him and he went to the sidelines looking for his mouthpiece. That's how that goes."
Felt awful for him. He was really coming around this year and playing solid.
1. How did he officially do this…did he just land on it wrong?
2. What are his chances of returning from this injury next year…and does he have a RS, or is it too late for that anyway? Probably too late anyway…
3. After this injury, they showed Jimbo saying something to all the players on the sidelines, and I imagined it was “OK, who wants to volunteer for the next season-ending injury? I need 11 brave guys, form me a line…”
I Predicted 42-17....
would be the final score, during the week… I know I repeated this about 3 times already but I’m just feeling myself right now… :-)
had 45-10 myself
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I’m just feeling myself right now… :-)
I don’t know if I should be creeped out by your choice of words or impressed that you can accurately type with one hand
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by Sir Lawrence J on Oct 15, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Had 42-9.
I’ll take it.
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by Drew J Jones on Oct 16, 2011 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions
At least we get one week
without “fire all the damn coaches posts”
by law74 on Oct 15, 2011 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You’ll here that for special teams I’m sure
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
You're probably right on the coaches
and the weight trainers will probably catch some grief because it was their fault Jacobbi is out for the rest of the season.
don't like Gran at all.
Freeman can make him look better, though.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yes.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Just wondering why?
I thought other than today we’d held it together pretty well. I definitely could be missing something though
Because special teams haven't been good either of his two years and our running backs have regressed since last year.
Powell, Hopkins and Reid were all doing their thing before Gran came along. But I can’t remember the last time we blocked a kick and we almost never have a big return that wasn’t set up by Reid being Reid.
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And I'm serious, not just arguing.
I know I don’t have as much knowledge as the regulars on here
I overrated Gran.
I think we have no idea how much recruiting pull he has, though. Perhaps he’s an average football coach that recruited can’t miss guys like Brown, Williams, and the TN backs.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
From what I understand, he's a good recruiter....
with questionable methods (supposedly). But as a RB and ST’s coach I am not impressed thus far.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I buy the questionable methods talk.
Everything I’ve heard sounds like the same crap the UK basketball fans spew about when Hamilton beats them for a recruit.
"supposedly"
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want good guys.
I want position coaches that can develop players…..so they actually improve.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't arguing coaching, not sure about that.
But recruiting is one of his assets.
I still blame OL a lot more than RBs for the running game problems to date, so on that I think we differ. So, from my reference, if he’s an ace (and clean) recruiter, and a serviceable RB coach… let someone else take over special teams. If he’s only getting guys because he’s dirty and is risking an NCAA hammer with what he’s doing, then “good guy” matters to me.
(All of this said, I seem to be in the minority around here, in that I like to root for quality people. I can stand to watch Hamilton’s bball crew out there even though it is maddening because I like guy and most of the kids he’s bringing in… not sure if I could hold my nose if we got a Calipari in here. But that’s a whole ’nother debate not worth flooding this thread with.)
When did Gran take over at RB
Because we have had a good running game but Oline injuries and RB injuries have forced Freshman in and Devonta has improved a half a season and finally got a bit of help at the line. But not sure when Gran got here. If he has been here last few years he did well with a run game without a star
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It's his rimary position to coach... RB and Special teams
since before last season. If you being serious.
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You'll find plenty plenty to argue
if you’re going to assume he is an average position coach who just “happened” to recruit complete studs that dominated college football “in spite of” his coaching.
That’s a tough argument to make.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 16, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Good RB coach
Hit or miss special teams coach
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by Legal_Seminole on Oct 15, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Need to see progress in our RB's, not regression.
Today was a good day for Freeman, and Gran.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The 2 seniors are done
I don’t think they are even trying to learn or buy-in now the there are 2 freshman better than them here.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 16, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Isn't it odd how the seniors are worse now with Gran than before Gran showed up?
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Would losing Hudson and McMahon factor into the regression. Running game was efficient last year.
"That's all I ask for from a program. If I'm the best let me play, if I'm not the best I'll do whatever I can to make the team better and work harder to be the best." - Freeman
by DS_fear_the_spear on Oct 16, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really.
Both seem to have gotten worse these last 2 years compared to where they were prior to Gran.
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Yeah, we were SO going places with Ty and Jermaine before Gran showed up and pissed in the punch.
/end sarcasm
jt looked pretty damn good in ’09.
by nole country for old men on Oct 16, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
jt was good in ‘09. he just was. it’s the OL’s job to open holes for the backs. and you’re right, they did. and your wrong, jt made one cut and hit the hole hard. i don’t know what changed, but he was an excellent runner the second half of that season. future all american? probably not, but i never claimed he was.
by nole country for old men on Oct 17, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
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I think our OL (Gaurd Center) regressed more RB's
Thompson was never 100 percent going into this year
Jermain is still doing what he’s always done bounce… just with a less than stellar line
Same with Ty
Those guys havent changed the blocking has.
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That's fair.
I think the problem has been more on the OL than anyone. But, the upperclassmen backs seem to be missing more reads at the LOS than they used to. And they could occasionally break tackles/make people miss in the open field before. Not this year.
No doubt the OL made them look better than they were last couple, but I’ve seen worse play from them, too.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 17, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
remember before the season the question was all about the WR
And weather a change is something we would need
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Bring back Dexter, eh Kenneth?
I don’t see where you’re coming from on this one. Gran is a hella good recruiter and has the credentials like nobody else on developing stud RBs at the college level. I think we all knew and accepted that he was not an elite ST coach, and somebody has to do it.
And for the record, all the special teams stuff in the 2nd half can’t be laid at his feet. That first onside kick – you just clap and say “yeah, you got us, gutsy call and good execution” on that one.
I was getting a little carried away with the Gran stuff.
I’m not particularly impressed with what he’s done with FSU’s backs to this point. Perhaps they were at their ceilings when he got here and trying to make them better/change their approach had the opposite effect? Maybe I was expecting him to do too much, with too little.
The next crop is all him. The more they continue to develop and improve, the more I’ll believe.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 16, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
That's good to hear you have backed off a little
All this talk about “regression” with the running backs.
but you and a couple of other posters have used the word “regression” of the rbs.
1) How do you determine regression if the offensive line is, without question, worse?
2) Exactly how does a coach make a running back worse? ( Not talking about the rb not improving, or improving quickly enough, but actually getting worse.)
MAYBE
"There's always opportunity in everything. I saw him, I laid the wood on him and he went to the sidelines looking for his mouthpiece. That's how that goes."
Still question some of the personel in certain situations....primarily Vince Williams
and this is still DUKE.
I can certainly see FSU fighting tooth and nail for victories vs. Miami, uf, NCSU and BC
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by Blue Horseshoe on Oct 15, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Informative stat
24 second half plays – only 3 passing plays.
Sometimes wish we’d run the score up, but oh well
Formerly known as 'stilts'
If you look at it, we literally did run up the score
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by Sir Lawrence J on Oct 15, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. For everyone who says where’s our running game, why cant we pound it on opponents.. well there you go
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
For everyone who's been saying that...
this is the first we’ve been able to actually do it.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Off topic,
But is everyone else having a problem of it flagging instead of rec’ing on IPad? Third time it’s happened to me so I know it’s not my fault.
i have that problem on a laptop right now
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
It is rec'ing them.
The rec and flag buttons are just overlapping.
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It was Duke.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat"
by Blue Horseshoe on Oct 15, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And if we didnt vs. Duke then what… Point is we had a lead and stuck with running (which is what people wanted to see).
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I was surprsed to see that stats say 14 first downs rushing
5 passing
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Balanced without the lead?
you do understand that throwing the ball is the best way to come from behind, right?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Always need to be able to run the ball
Ditching the run game just leaves your offense easier to defend.
couldn't do it against ULM or Chuck South or Wake or Clemson or OU.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point, it doesn't matter who we run against.
If we played Lowndes High, I would be happy if we ran well.
Football is my favorite show.
Bud
Comments on the designed running plays for EJ?
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Separate post. Surprised to be honest
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Thoughts after watching that game
do you still stick with the assumption of a surgery for EJ’s shoulder? Also McDaniel…..big loss???
by cerebralfish on Oct 16, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
McDaniel important loss. But FSU has depth.
Yes, I do think we’ll see surgery.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 16, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
My comment is
you got a glimpse of what our offense could’ve been this year.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Sigh
Would have been awesome to see this type of offense for most of the year. Really like seeing EJ run, so long as its not an injury risk
IF Winston chooses FB…He’s gonna be “whew” with this.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
Agree
After seeing his film, I can’t wait to see what he can do here (if he picks football).
whaaaaa whaaaa
I’m so upset everything is awful foreeeevvvvvverrrrrr.
My 4 year old acts overly dramatic like this sometimes, but it still surprises me to see adults do it.
by Dark Stranger on Oct 15, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Really??
I’m not whining or complaining. That was not a post complaining about recruiting or our season.
Winston was in Tuscaloosa last week. Even if FSU was undefeated at this point, these are still 17 year old kids who can change their minds. Add on to that our recent struggles, Bama looking excellent and the fact that Tuscaloosa is 40 minutes from his hometown and I think there is cause for concern.
Step back and analyze the situation before you start calling people out.
add to that that Tuscaloosa is 40 minutes from home it it explains how he might get to take in a game more easily
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He has been negatively recruited against Alabama his entire career
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 16, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
It wasnt just designed running plays
but when you watch the film notice that he uses his left hand/arm for many things he doesnt have to use it for – fixing helmet, mouthpiece, strap, etc. he didnt seem to be favoring that injured shoulder at all.
by New Mexico Nole on Oct 16, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Putting in a mouthpiece shouldn't really be bothering him a month after the injury.
But that doesn’t mean we should be running him 10 times a game, either. Especially against Duke.
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I think we should stop using the phrase "............especially against Duke."
If a team loses to Wake Forest, you dont have a “………..especially against (fill in team name)” team.
Except Duke is nothing like Wake.
And we shouldn’t have run Manuel like we did. Especially against Duke.
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Freeman and Wilder should be our starters exclusively...
The other guys give us nothing imo
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by WinstonSalemNole on Oct 15, 2011 6:36 PM EDT reply actions
Freeman ok, Wilder no
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Probably get stone for saying this
but I hope J Wilder moves to LB and ends up in the NFL and makes millions.
I think everybody agrees with this
He should stop being stubborn and go to the position he is best suited for to be an AA and make millions of dollars in the NFL. JMO
by SarasotaSeminole on Oct 15, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
you replied to the right guy with that comment.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking at our LB depth next year.... and the lack of 2012 recruits,
he’d have a nice shot at PT
Football is my favorite show.
Every carry he's had this year resulted in a successful play.
I’ll wait til he has an unsuccessful one to jump on the popular opinion band wagon.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
J Wilder
Jimbo says he always gets 2 yards after contact.
Sounds like a great FB to me.
I like the kid but he is nothing but north south and a cloud of dust.
FB or LB but he takes a back seat to Freeman and Pender.
When his only carries are inside the ten....
don’t have much more than two extra yards to get.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll see about that
A case of beer says J Wilder never starts at TB at FSU unless the guy in front of him is injured.
Have you not been following Fisher's offense?
There is no starting TB. He rotates 3, regardless of quality or retardation.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What bet? That he never is on the field on the first play?
That’s stupid.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I think he'll be on the field the first play
but it won’t be at TB unless the guy in front of him is injured.
IMHO, he’s a gifted FB or LB that has visions of following in his dad’s footsteps.
Not gonna be a FB
and if they move him to LB, they sure as hell better do it soon…before they totally screw him over. We all know the HS scouting report. Not ground breaking stuff that he’s rated better on defense. This coaching staff royally screwed him if that’s the plan.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Starting with Gran
who sat him down and went over “every running play” in the FSU offense with him.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
we dont get him without that meeting
he picked us because we gave him an honest shot at RB. i, for one, am happy with Gran doing that.
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I think Wilder moves thre his junior year IMO
Freeman and Pender will definitely be getting the carries and the light will come on or he’ll just want pT and move to LB. For the record I wish it would ahppen sooner like no or his sophmore year
by SarasotaSeminole on Oct 15, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He has plenty of time, IMO. Let him move after next year
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he needs to switch this spring or not at all.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. I think he’ll switch spring 2013.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
and only have two years at LB?
I’d like him to have 3, at whatever position he plays.
I thought he was pretty raw on defense, too.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Just the way I think it goes, and it wouldn’t bother me.
Or maybe Gran can pull a miracle and teach him to be a RB
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have a problem
putting him where he’s best suited. But, they have to recognize that as soon as possible and stop bullshitting. Give him maximum time to develop at his ultimate spot.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta make sure the kid wants to. Can’t move him and have him think he didn’t get a fair shot.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that.
At some point (sooner, rather than later) don’t they need to play the parent role and advise him properly?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is a situation in which he must prove it to himself. If it happens, I think it happens if he gets behind Pender and Freeman.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember, us doing this helps us incredibly with all future similar recruits.
We knew this going in, and I knew at the time that I’d STILL happily take him.
do you see wilder as a similar talent to c. jones at lb? better? worse?
by nole country for old men on Oct 15, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably slightly worse
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's a better athlete than Jones.
For whatever that’s worth.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
"teach him to be a running back"
I will assume you were being sarcastic. I can see a coach teaching a rb pass protection pick ups, blocking techniques, pass routes, how to protect the ball and a few other finer points but the runnning skills, speed and vision are gifts from above.
I think it was coach Stockstill that said W Dunn would make any coach look good.
And as far as laying the blame on Gran for this year’s poor running game, it would seem a closer look at Trickett may be more appropriate.
I think in HS he was just that much more bigger and stronger than everyone else
When he’s running the ball against the better D’s we will see, I think he’ll see the light.
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I agree.
At that point you’re just putting an athlete at LB and pulling an Amato by telling him to just make plays. You’re hoping his senior year he puts it all together. Seems like we would’ve not only wasted his offensive years but his defensive as well.
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This is exactly what bothers me.
Maybe it’ll work out.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 16, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yea but he may not be a Nole if we dont offer him a chance at RB
I think that by the end of the season with him getting more carries as CT and JT get less. If Freeman really takes over and Wilder never amounts to more then a 4rd down goalline back, especially with pender coming in then I think he may switch after this season. he is geting his shot. And I think its in his own best interest to realize if he wants to play in the NFL its not going to be at RB. Now if he gos and starts averaging 6 yards a carry with 10 carries a game and whatnot maybe I change my mind. And I still think he only hurts himself
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if we didnt offer him the shot
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and 3rd down back. jeez its late
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Bwahahhaa,
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 15, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to say he can't be a decent RB
Cause I think her can, it is just that he has soooooo much more upside as a LB it’s not even funny
by SarasotaSeminole on Oct 15, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say you're wrong.
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Not me I like him there till he proves otherwise... no real chance yet.
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by SteadfastNole on Oct 15, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to see Wilder run with the first team OLine
Team work make the dream work
by lloydg on Oct 15, 2011 6:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I wanted to see Fisher let Wilder pound it in for a touchdown in the final minutes.
Wtf was that?
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being gracious in victory
its called class, and Wisky’s coach doesnt have an ounce of it.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Don't give me this crap about class.
That’s something sissies made up to make themselves feel better about being sissies.
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by tricknole on Oct 16, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really
Going by that logic, if you got into a fight and someone kicked your *ss, you would rather be curb stomped than a simple *ss whipping.
'see da broad ta get tha booty yackum, layem down smackum yackum...ho got ta be.... shiiiiiit!' 'early to bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise'
you have to be classy in wins and losses
no reason to be a douche after you already beat the crap out of them. let your play on the field do the talking for you, no need to rub salt in the wound with less than 30 seconds to go. and when bad things happen, dont scream all game and say “no comment” in your interviews like a douche.
just let your play speak for you and accept what happens – running up the score late in a blowout is the coaching equivalent of a big celebration on a TD that puts you up by 40. act like youve been there before, and that you deserve to be there. both sides know who beat who, running up the score is for classless coaches or coaches that arent used to winning very often.
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There is nothing wrong with letting Wilder pound it in for a score late in that game.
Nothing.
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If not for the fumble and onside kicks this game is really ugly...
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by WinstonSalemNole on Oct 15, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
UVa just finshed off GaTech. Thus, if you had Dabo Swinney, you win the ACC
survivor pool
Free Market Anarchists do it voluntarily.
GT and Clemson are in different divisions
Their loss doesn’t affect Clemson.
I meant that Clemson is the last undefeated team in the ACC.
Free Market Anarchists do it voluntarily.
Now UM can have a shot lol
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I'm just glad...
we finally get to get back to having a home game in a long time
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It hurts to see the offense execute like that ...2 games too late.
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Well better late than never I suppose
our o-line finally looks like its coming together as a unit, the starting five today I believe we’ll see for the rest of the year. We ran the ball effectively, hit big plays in the passing game, and the defense played pretty well for the most part. I know its Duke, but this was a solid all-around win that FSU needed badly. Let’s hope the winning continues the rest of the year.
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by Matt Champion on Oct 15, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Overall
Nice to see things go as they should’ve for a week. As others have said, with a less than tough ACC slate ahead of us, I still think the Noles have a good chance of being 8-3 heading into Gainesville.
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Maybe, but let's not get ahead of ourselves
We’ve won one game since week 2, and it was against Duke.
We suffered losses against Maryland and NC State last year, and we could easily lose to at least one of them again this year.
It feels nice right now, but this win’s a start, not a final vindication.
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by Dogrel on Oct 16, 2011 12:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
FSU beat MD last year
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That's right
We lost to UNC And NC State. My bad.
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by Dogrel on Oct 16, 2011 1:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice to see our young receivers continue to make plays for the most part
Just wish poor C. Green could keep his feet and actually make it to the EZ for once. He deserves it.
um, he got tackled on the long play today
grass had nothing to do with it
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Throw was not a good one. Long enough but way right
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Surely, you can't be criticizing his deep throws. Can you?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just glad he got it there.
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Not sure what that means
but deep throws is his one true strength as a passer.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought most of his deep throws were good, but on the throw to Green he got balied out
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was that the one when the pocket all but collapsed on him
I know one he just barely got out
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Not sure I'd characterize it that way.
As long as he’s putting it out there, anywhere, in a place where your receiver can run under it but the DB can’t, then that’s success to me. And Green wouldn’t even have fallen down on his own, so doesn’t suggest horribly off target.
Bingo.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the ball to Shaw wasn't great.
Seemed to hang, Kenny really honed in on it as the defender was closing.
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That's just the nature of a deep ball, to me.
Adjustment by the receiver is essential.
by arrdub on Oct 15, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jimbo...
Duke 6 for 6 on onsides this year.. We had it called
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
6 for 6?
That’s got to be sheer dumb luck on a scale of not losing a fumble for about three years.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
I'd give onsides kicks more credit than fumbles.
You plan to kick it. You teach it, practice it, etc.
You also can practice receiving an onsides kick. Hmmmm
Football is my favorite show.
the second 'successful' onside recovery
that ball went 9.5 yards….should have been a penalty on Duke.
by Tha Realness on Oct 15, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it made it. Guy waited just long enough before he got on it.
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 16, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
It was a call that could've gone either way imo.
Just like the “fumble”.
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It went 10. they played it reallt well
It jumped an FSu player about 9 in and they blocked hi out and touched it as soon as it crossed ten yards
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i disagree with caine and onebarrelrum... touched before 10 dude had the ball already when he crossed
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i think last bounce where the ball suddnely turns 90deg
Was because it hit the kickers leg. The view is blocked on the replays but you can tell it was at minimum really close to his leg.
Not that it matters.
by DixieNole on Oct 16, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that would have been prior to 10
Again, not that it matters.
by DixieNole on Oct 16, 2011 10:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hapy to have a win agianst Duke
But even poorly coached Jeff Bowden teams did well and put up impressive stats against Duke.
I dont know how much we can really take away from this game.
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Yep.
But I likes no false starts, no delay of games, no motion penalties, etc.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is what made me happy
We beat Duke today and insteading of beating FSU
by SarasotaSeminole on Oct 15, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You mean like in 2004 where we hosted Duke for Homecoming or Parent's Weekend?
And we were up 9-7 at the half? Yea, marvelous.
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Jimbo: We just never got ball back in second half.
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Four weeks ago we had the best special teams in the country
Still do, IMHO. Balls take funny bounces and you can go from great to goat in a split second.
And I thought the bitching would be done. I guess we need to win 80-0 from here on out.
No. We had the best kicker and punter. That's it.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
We have had decent kick coverage most of the year even when Hop doesn't boot it.
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by PalmAireNole on Oct 15, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
because he kicks it really high?
not too difficult to cover those.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree strongly Doc
Something is not quite right with J. Hopkins but he’s still very good. Just not himself. When he did kick short, our special teams knocked the crap out of them inside the 20.
On the onsides kicks, Scooter can’t come down with it and, on the other kick, the ball takes a funny bounce and it goes 10 yards and 4 inches.
S..t happens and that doesn’t make the rest of the special teams suck.
D. Hicks is the goat as far as I’m concerned and he’s not on special teams.
Blast him…not special teams.
Hopkins is awesome. So is Powell. So is Reid (returning punts).
Not a lot Gran had to do with that.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup.
Have we blocked a kick with Gran as special teams coach?
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How many?
Serious questions.
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FSU rarely plays to block
In 5 of our 6 games this year we set up the return for G Reid.
Just not a fair question.
I've been very critical of our field goal blocking strategy. see: non-existent
Greg is also having issues trying to handle punts deep inside the 10, and failing to come up and fair catch some punts that end up bouncing too far.
The latter might be a G5 issue, but the FG blocking has been costly twice.
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Great point KMan
Greg needs to stop gambling or it WILL cost us big. Soon.
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Huh?
You don’t like G5 as a PR and Joyner and Los as KOR?
by SarasotaSeminole on Oct 15, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
No wan in hell do we have the best special teams in the country.
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Jimbo: Wanted to get wilder in there more but Devonta was just had hot hand
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I like coach Fisher
But he say this every week. “Wanted to get Wilder more touches but”….. Freeman was hot though
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by lloydg on Oct 15, 2011 6:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
When did he say that before
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nevermind
read that wrong
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JImbo: People dont understand & no disrespect… But EJ changes this team. His size, his ability to run and do somethings
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I can hear ZZ Top right now
“he’s got legs, he knows how to use them”
Which makes his decision to not start him vs Wake
Even more inexcusable.
by Fsued on Oct 15, 2011 8:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
totally disagree, this is 20/20 analysis
if EJ got hurt and was out for the season, you would have called it a bad idea.
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I have no problem with starting Clint or bringing in EJ
but if he’s going to put EJ in, he better let him play. Or, not play him at all.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree completely.
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Jimbo: Had to flip line. Stork and Fairnkrug did good job inside today
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I went all game without noticing Krug, which means he has progressed incredibly in the last 3 or 4 games.
And from what I saw from Faircloth, he looked better than Spurlock anyway.
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They will be fine if they can stay healthy...we will get better.
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Jimbo: TEs blocked well over all today. Freeman ran well. Ej got on the perimeter well. JT averaged 7 yards a pop
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JImbo: Wouldnt trade punter & kicker for anyone in the country
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I might trade Powell for Trent Richardson.
Jus sayin….
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 16, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry typing fast as I can…
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thanks for that.
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"If Alabama is the number 2 defense, FSU is 2A".
Who'd have ever thunk it...
Ron Cherry’s crew gave us our most well officiated game of our season
This blows my mind!
Still missed a lot of holds.
- of Duke Offensive Plays – Holding calls on Duke = # of Missed Holding Calls
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Haha this isn’t a hold, is it?
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by ttubasketball on Oct 15, 2011 7:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good solid game.
I know it was Duke, but we needed a game like this. I thought Devonta looked good along with the rest of the run game. I didn’t really understand all of the EJ runs though. Is his shoulder completely healed?
by fsunole23 on Oct 15, 2011 7:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I didn't think EJ....
was going to be showing run as much. I know it’s Duke, but it just shows what this offense is when EJ ACTUALLY has the threat of a run. Freeman looked real good also. Thank you Jimbo for having the boys ready to play.
especially on the road..
If WF beats VT… our losses would be 3 ranked teams (WF would be ranked next week) with one loss between them (and arguably WF got hosed at Syracuse on the road) by a total of 20pts. Absolutely Maddening.
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*cough cough*
Duke is gonna get curb-stomped this weekend. they have the misfortune of meeting a pissed off, more talented FSU team that rationalized their issues away and got embarrassed by Wake. Duke is not as talented as Wake (not to say that Wake is any good), and this is a team full of pissed grown men with a renewed focus and an easy target.
fellas, the 16 year old is about to get socked in the face by the angry adult who got cocky and just got hustled. you can only rag on your buddy for so long before somebody loses a tooth.
by nole07 on Oct 13, 2011 11:25 PM EDT
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
that was me calling it
we won with big plays, a good number of sacks and big hits, and some smash mouth running up the middle that we have been lacking. we didn’t just win, we did it with a vengeance. 45 runs and 17 ypa in the passing game is how you beat a team when you come out pissed off and more focused.
and no, i didnt hurt my arm trying to pat myself on the back
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
07
Great call.
Go back and give us your quote on the Wake game.
dunno if i had one
but if i did, it was probably that we would win, just like everyone else said. already ate that crow.
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You're a good man
and an honest one….maybe more important.
You got my respect.
i try
besides, the internet is a permanent public forum. if i lie about anything nowadays, even online, there is accountability. accountability tends to make for more honest people. works with politicians and companies, works with individuals.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Freeman is nice....
dont know why they waited five games into the season to feed him the ball….hes been the best running back all year…
poor blocking, mostly
especially with the OL looking bad, you have to play the guy that will protect the QB
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CT broke his back?
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"If Alabama is the number 2 defense, FSU is 2A".
"Freeman could be special"
I just hope J Wilder is starting to notice that.
Memo to Wilder….M. Pender is about to hit campus and you need to reconsider the position you should be playing.
Third string running back or all ACC linebacker.
by law74 on Oct 15, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so that means
You’re ok with having Freeman and Pender at rb next year and that’s it?
by gasou_nole on Oct 15, 2011 7:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good question
I’m hoping C Thompson can make it back. Maybe a little optimistic but to quote people relying on medical sources….“You can bet Thompson will be doing his fair share of rehab in the coming weeks. That means he really does have a shot to come back better than ever. Whether that shot will be this year or next remains to be seen …”
Keeping fingers crossed, but Wilder will never be our main man at rb regardless.
i would rather he never tried to come back
great kid, dont want to see him permanently disabled because we really wanted him to run the football.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I don't want CT back at all this year.
If he wants to make a go in 2012, more power, but too much in one season. I’ve never heard anyone say anything negative about that kid, so you just want him to be OK above anything else.
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Not to worry
CT sits out the this year.
He may come back next year…who knows.
But J Wilder will never be, barring injury, more than 2nd string and most likely 3rd.
In a perfect world I’d like to see him step in and take L Pryor’s spot but TB’s don’t like the idea of playing FB.
That is where I really think he should play.
you realize wilder has done nothing but run well in the compressed red zone area, right? and how valuable it is to be able to run in the red zone? i’m surprised with how certain you sound that he has no future at the position.
by nole country for old men on Oct 15, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Has shown no vision so far and hasn’t run against even a decent run D
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He shredded that vaunted 3-3-5
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by CornNole on Oct 15, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
until freeman got going today it seemed wilder was the only back that could run against even suspect competition. not to mention our other backs uncanny ability to go down on first contact. there’s something to be said for hard running, imo
by nole country for old men on Oct 15, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Wilder does have an uncanny ability to makes yard after first contact.
Unfortunately, that first contact is usually the offensive guard’s lower lumbar area.
Bud always hops right on it before anybody has a chance
But Wilder doesn’t lack anywhere except for the most important attribute a RB needs to have and possess: VISION
by SarasotaSeminole on Oct 15, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If that is truly the case
I hate Gran even more. He was a 5* player with NFL talent written all over him. If they screw him by dicking around with the RB thing, that’s all on Jimbo and Gran.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, they got him with the runningback promise. They’ll give him his two year chance at least then he’ll be fine at backer.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll see.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
plus he didn't go play LB for UF...
this is big boy football. and the kid had help making his choice, so it absolutely is not on Fisher and Gran… they have kept their promise.
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Yep. Have to appear honest
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is almost as good as actually being honest :)
And I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again – this helps us with every kid in a similar situation in the future. Some coaches won’t tolerate this, but I have no problem with it as long as they’re a good kid with their head on straight like Wilder appears to be.
Up til now they have.
I really feel like the clock is ticking, though….if he ends up switching sides.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 16, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sold he moves yet... want to see more, but others may know more from practice than I do.
I hear ya tho.
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I'm still willing to give him time and I hope he does work out.
I want him to be a powerful running back. He is so strong, if he figures it out, look out.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 16, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Cool, thanks.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 16, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i’ll take ball security first, personally. you do realize that pretty much every running play wilder has had this year has been successful?
by nole country for old men on Oct 15, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
btw, i love how freeman ran today. i just think wilder’s hard running style has value. and he’s a freshman. i think it’s a little early to assume he’s hit his ceiling.
by nole country for old men on Oct 15, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
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Pryor never touches the ball and is a probably 5-10 pounds too heavy this year.
Everybody expects Beverly to be a Pryor-like FB.
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agree w/you about pryor’s weight. in the second half it was painful to watch him motion out of the backfield. he looks slow an unathletic. sucks, man, love that guy.
by nole country for old men on Oct 16, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, encourage the dumbassery that convinced him to come to FSU.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
can i use “dumbassery” if i cite you as a source?
by nole country for old men on Oct 15, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not quite sure I understand your angle.
Think he should have gone elsewhere and played LB?
Think we misled him?
I think they need to quit dicking around
If they think he has true NFL talent at RB, great. It not, move him now and give him maximum opportunity to develop at the position that best helps FSU and him.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Just the LB talk getting me fired up again.
When Bud says it, makes it sound real official.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW, Ima' need you to give me a break down on how successful this 3-man front has been on #-and-long situations.
Vs. a standard 4-3 and a 4-2-5 (nickel).
That is, if you’re desperate to write something but can’t think of a particular stat to focus on this week…. :)
Before this game
4-3: 4.87 ypp, 36.52% SR, 5.06% exp rate, 14.1% neg. rate
4-2: 3.62 ypp, 24.44% SR, 2.22% exp rate, 17.8% neg. rate
3-4: 5.48 ypp, 39.29% SR, 3.57 % exp rate, 12.5% neg. rate
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
From this, you can see why I've been screaming for more nickel.
CB injuries have probably hampered that, though.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think that’s true all 3 major minute corners have been really dinged
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That, to me, has been the biggest reason our defense
hasn’t shined in every game.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Feel like it cost us Clemson
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Not a feeling. Reality.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Difference is big enough I'm not sure we couldn't stick a green corner in there and do better.
Think coaches might be too conservative on personnel on this one.
or brooks.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 16, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
What happened @Clem?
I think I remember you saying we went a lot of 4-3 instead of nickel, but I do remember Brooks coming in, as well…
remember reid was out
So people moved up
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Is that just 3rd downs?
More than half a yard short of its comparators doesn’t look good, regardless, but the SR is on par with 4-3.
all downs.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you throw 3rds at me?
(Or otherwise disabuse me of the notion that we’re giving up too many 3rd and longs…)
don't have it broken down that way.
I’ll get it soon.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that success rate allowed?
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
yes.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting that YPP is .6 more in 3-4, but explosive rate is less (than 3-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Indicative of the massive holes between our 'backers and safeties..
where anyone with a pulse can seemingly sit down and earn a 3rd and forever conversion… no YAC necessary.
(Joking, but it seems like it happens too often.)
yep
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're a fan of effectively lying to a kid, on record, and giving opponents great ammo to use against us with similar future players?
This was part of the deal, Kenneth, and I was fine with it.
I had no problem with that deal.
but if we continue to rotate terrible seniors regularly, while JWJ gets a carry or two here and there, mostly in garbage time….only to switch him…I’d say that’s not much of a deal.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 16, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mobile rec
Team work make the dream work
by lloydg on Oct 16, 2011 5:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Perspective I think could see it another way for now...
Nobody was getting enough carries before today.
The OL wasn’t getting anything done in inside zone blocking.
Once Freeman finally got going I think they had to let him get off the launch pad for once, so we have at least one solid back moving forward.
Wilder is still, I admit, a project. So They will work him in garbage and move him up earlier in games IMO.
Thats how I see it.
"Don't bite your friends" - DJ Lancerock
Like I said, I'll back off for a while
but if 33 and 38 continue to rotate regularly AND look terrible, I don’t think Gran/Fisher are really giving JWJ a fair chance. And more importantly, they’re not doing what’s best for the offense. JMO and I’m done for now.
Bring back Kendall Smith....a true linebacker.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 17, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Still not getting calls
The refs still missed alot of holds committed by Duke, A whole bunch which were blatantly ovious and right in front of the play and one which resulted in Duke knocking off a big run on their last scoring drive. Ironically the score ended up to be exact over/under set by Vegas.
The thing that’s odd is that the holding isn’t of the sneaky variety. Its literally right around the QB or ball carrier in a officials sight line.
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Block in the back
On the sweep by the running back, right in front of the play/referee
by NoleySmokes on Oct 15, 2011 9:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and it happened because Watkins dropped a PR inside the 10 and MD picked it up
also, Boyd is actively trying to turn it over but MD doesnt seem to want it very much
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and theres the pick 6
told you he was trying to turn it over. that one was right at the guy.
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the team currently trying out a more mobile QB in an attempt to make Crowton look good
bad news for Danny O’Brien, who is actually a really good QB
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
still is
not his fault the new OC is a joke and the scheme is hurting him. hell, look at the night and day difference at LSU now that he is gone.
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Anybody worried about Maryland at this point?
by Tallinasty_Nole on Oct 15, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
losable.
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 16, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
The Seminole site of SBnation has enough readers
Compares to about every other college page on here that all games get broken down. And talked about. Well beyond the score
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use the night game thread. This is for commenting on the duke game
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Can we comment on the UF game in the context of the Duke game?
For example, “UF blows even worse than Duke in ever facet of the game”?
by GoNoles2011 on Oct 15, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would have thought..
A big win in football could come against Duke. Although they don’t have near the talent that we have, We finally showed discipline and got the ground game going. Hopefully this will continue.
Big win against Duke
Equals a gold in the special olympics….even if you win, you’re still retarded.
And for all the PC people out there…I’m so sorry and would never mean to make a joke at the expense of others.
I got the feeling that the refs backed off of us this week
The ACC head office must have pointed out that we’ve been consistently getting screwed so they just let us play and even forgave a few situations that could have easily been penalties (such as a facemask at one point).
Too bad we got the prefewrential treatment versus Duke- we could probably use a little leniency against Maryland next week.
Fewest yards/play by Duke this season? FSU (4.1) (Stanford 2nd with 4.7)
Most yards/play allowed by Duke this year? (Stanford 8.4) (FSU 2nd with 8.2)
Making bad teams look bad.
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So I think I saw some advance F/O stats that had Duke ranked higher than Wake this week.
Do we take anything out of that? Maybe with EJ running FSU is alot closer to the FSU we thought they were? Or is it still just beating Duke and we can’t really take that much out of this game?
Both can be plausible. EJ running makes FSU significantly better (because you have to account for it) and Duke defensively is still Duke.
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How has the offense looked in the other games without EJ running?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 15, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Somewhere in the middle
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KU linemen
hurt really really bad
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After a 15 min injury delay, Kansas goes on it on a 4th and 1 – 50+ yard TD vs. OU
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Worst defense in the country
holding the best offense to a 3pt gap…
college football.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
UF just gave the game away.
UF’s special teams coach is doneski
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Have you said exactly what it is Gran has done since he's been here that makes you a slurper?
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Recruited well?
The kickoff and punt coverage is pretty good, too, no?
He was coaching the backs last year, too, and the whole platoon seemed to have a pretty good season.
WTF three down defensive linemen
I took notice on when we ran three down defensive linemen. The result was horrible for us and we kept doing it. We ran a nickel package with Brandon Jinkens lining up like an outside linebacker, all that accomplished was NO pressure on the QB and them conversion on 3 of the 4 third downs against out "so called 3-4 defense". We would line up in our normal 4 do linemen and dominate. My question is why the hell should Mark keep running this shit if it keeps getting picked apart. Other than that we had a great game " against duke woohoo" and we need to carry this solid play over to a sneaky good Maryland team.
by Noles3 on Oct 15, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Actually, it’s been very successful this season.
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by Bud Elliott on Oct 15, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it...
It may give up a few yards here and there (still a new system) but it causes the quarterback a lot of problems…
Corn
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I mean, he's no TrickNole or anything
But I generally like his posts.
by FSUKook on Oct 16, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Corn looks up to me.
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Fixed it for you...
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