Noles News 10.25.11
by Bud Elliott on Oct 25, 2011 11:54 AM EDT
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PrintJimbo Fisher did not address the media yesterday because he doesn't do that on Mondays. We covered the press conference here (read my comments, as everything important was transcribed).
Week 8 By The Numbers - Backing The Pack
Breaking down NC State's pivotal win over the Virginia Cavaliers.
College Football Coaching Hot Seat: Spaziani Saved By Longevity/Loyalty? - BC Interruption
John Brantley Probable For Florida Vs. Georgia After Ankle Injury - Alligator Army
Will Muschamp is calling John Brantley "probable" for Florida's rivalry game against Georgia. But the Gators' head coach also says that he expects Brantley to play.
Updated depth chart. - Backing The Pack
So N.C. State is getting some players back
ACC's entertainment value best in BCS - ACC Blog - ESPN
It's true, if you measure it by close games.
NCAA College Football BCS Bowl Projections Week 8 - ESPN
Could FSU face Notre Dame in a bowl game in Orlando?
Eagle in Atlanta -- atleagle.com: No ignoring offensive failure
As defenders and critics of Spaz get more entrenched in their respective stances, I suggest we look at the objective issues. The biggest is the failure of the offensive side of the ball under Spaz. In an era of video game scoring, BC remains unable to put points on the board. In 30 games against FBS opponents, Spaz's teams have only scored more than 20 points nine times. They are averaging over that time 18.5 against FBS opponents. BC has failed to exceed 20 points for nine-straight FBS games. We were fortunate that Spaz's first two teams used defense to cover up this glaring issue. That's not the case of late.
ACC power rankings: Week 9 - ACC Blog - ESPN
HD places FSU 6th. Hmm.
Bill Barnwell on the winners and losers in Week 7 in the NFL, plus debunking the Tim Tebow myth - Grantland
If you think the Broncos' new starting quarterback has finally earned the right to be treated like NFL royalty, you probably don't want to read this breakdown.
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Florida State-Notre Dame
The “Ma, I thought we were going to a BCS game this year!” Bowl.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
You mean
The Return to Glory Bowl?
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
I thought they had that bowl last year?
Only it was Miami/Notre Dame. How did the following year turn out for those two?
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
They returned to Glory, then left again.
Apparently, the hotel rates are still doable for a weekend, but housing prices are still way too expensive for either of them to move back.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
The "Preview of a 2012-13 BCS bowl game"
maybe even the one in Miami?
It's about time HD called out Devonta Freeman
I mean, seriously, where has he been up until now? It’s not like he’s a true freshman who had a stable of more experienced running backs ahead of him. I applaud HD for digging deep and providing the nation (nay, the world) with the most hard-hitting, thought provoking content on the interwebs.
by mbar on Oct 25, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
6th in power rankings?
Must be a typo. It’s understandably hard for HD to type with oven mitts on.
by Blazenole on Oct 25, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That, or she was distracted while folding clothes.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
by CornNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
In other news, I hear her sandwich-making skills have improved.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
I don't understand why you guys are getting worked up about being #6
There are four teams with better records and one with the same record. The one with the same record beat a team with a better record and FSU has not done that. It’s really that simple.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
because most are looking at it this way
look at who we lost to…their record..and how we lost….
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
SCOREBOARD.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Scoreboard, my butt
Gimme some sugar, baby.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Oct 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes and the more powerful teams win more games
Haven’t you been paying attention?
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed the rest of your Sarcasm posts before I wrote the message
but you would agree the the Colts are at a different place on the Power rankings with Manning than without him – I think
Shows what you know
Manning actually sucks, he just gets lots of hype from the white announcers
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that you know I haven't made a single serious comment in here (except not caring about Tebow)
why are you still trying to convince me?
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
HD Power Ranking
Means absolutely squat, which is why it’s fun to make fun. Mid-week entertainment. She does it to get a rise out of the TN guys.
I don't think it's funny. She's dead on.
Bravo, HD.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
So, assuming you were a betting man...
…you’d put money on those 5 teams ahead of us in a matchup?
I agree
If you’re truly doing a power poll, you have to rank on who you would favor at a neutral site. I think that we’d be favored in all of them except Clemson, and even then it would be close.
She shouldn’t call it a power ranking if she’s not willing to do that.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
by BenDNole on Oct 25, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Okay, I give up. My sarcasm emitter is clearly broken.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the "scoreboard" comment would clear it up
so I’m a little disappointed in you all, too. SHAME!
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I just thought you were hot for her forehead
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
These two things are not mutually exclusive
And I did think DKN was being serious. Sarcasm fail on my part, I guess.
Maybe your sarcasm emitter isn’t broken, just operator error.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
Wow
I don’t know why I found this so funny. But when I read it and subsequently lol’d, I ended up with half chewed peanut butter sandwich on my keyboard. Gee thanks much.
Did you finish your sandwich?
Formerly known as Florida State Jay.
by Jamil Dawson on Oct 25, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Next time include the winky emoticon ;-)
for the sarcasm impaired
Since this has been declared a no joking zone...
I’d take FSU, on a neutral field, over every ACC team right now. And probably take us on the road over everybody, too.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
This makes me sad.
Wish Clemson was this week instead of after OU, things could be so different.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Considering we gave them 21 points off penalties (IIRC), we played with our backup QB right after an emotional loss, it was on the road and we STILL only lost by 5, I agree. I think we beat them 7-8 times out of 10 if we play them again.
by newdynastynole on Oct 25, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
right now.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
thread palandrome FTW?
Or were you going for a reflecting pool sort of thing to emphasize the gravity of the comment?
Did someone say meow?
"I wish you loved me as much as you love TomahawkNation!"
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Do I look like a kittie cat, do I look like I drink milk out of a little saucer?!!!
Come on Meow!
FSU, home of the Bandit! Enough said!
poop
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Doo doo'd
That’s what you did to my comment. Doo doo’d on it.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
by CornNole on Oct 25, 2011 4:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Losing a shutout can be disappointing
but you’re stilling leading that category 12,342 to 1. It’s a safe lead.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Palindromes?
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
by CornNole on Oct 25, 2011 4:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Joking zone reinstated.
Please carry on.
We need it!
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Who says this is a no joking zone???
That’s it. I’m done with TN and its capricious rules.
Wait, were you joking then?
Dr K...hate to agree with you
1. Who cares what she says?
2. Don’t give me “look who we lost to” crap…how about look at who we beat! Nobody
3. By years end we will be respected again but it is going to take a win against UM and UF
POWER POLL not Best record/standings poll
I’d argue we’re right behind Clemson in the Power Poll. We have the power, we’re rolling on all cylinders right now. We’ve got some guys back and we’ve dominated our opponents like we should have all along. I’d even argue we’d beat CU in a rematch. Their defense sucks. How’s that for power?
This is actually getting fun, now.
They scored more points and are therefore….more powerful.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
occasionally...
"I wish you loved me as much as you love TomahawkNation!"
""--;;--ⒻⓁⓄⓇⒾⒹⒶ-ⓈⓉⒶⓉⒺ--;;-->
by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Supposedly...
Formerly known as Florida State Jay.
by Jamil Dawson on Oct 25, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Purportedly...
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Some sources say...
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
I swear you have a different persona under this username than your butterfly one.
I don’t have a problem with FSU 6th. Fourth through sixth is really a toss up at this point.
F the Deacs - Notre Dame, Rutgers and UConn to the ACC
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MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Not as serious, now?
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup and slightly more effeminate.
What was your roommates name? I most likely played with him...
-The one and only DRusso97
That's really not very nice.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Jk brochacho
What was your roommates name? I most likely played with him...
-The one and only DRusso97
Yeah, I was just demonstrating my new found sensitivity.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sort of.
F the Deacs - Notre Dame, Rutgers and UConn to the ACC
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MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
That's no help.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I've actually become a Tebow fan.
Because of all the racially based criticism he gets from the clowns on ESPN.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
He can get f***ed by a biracial d*** for all i care
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I used to feel that way too.
But Jamele Hill and Hugh Douglas (among many other African-American talking heads on ESPN) defend Cam Newton to the death but attack Tebow. I want him to succeed because unlike Cam, he actually is a good person, and so all the people defending Cam and attacking Tebow and eat crow.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
I think he's a self righteous prick
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1
"Awww, come on guys, it's so simple. Maybe you need a refresher course."
by BookemDanole on Oct 25, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Most see him as a good role model, but he makes me sick with the "thank my Lord and Savior" canned speech EVERY DAMN POSTGAME.
I’m a Christian…but it’s just…BLEH.
newton's numbers suggest hes a better nfl qb
no?
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
He leads the league in INT's.
He put up good numbers the first 2 weeks because no one expected him to attempt more than 15 passes. Now there film on him and his inability to read a defense and he leads the league in INT’s.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
A Rookie
starting from game 1 with an abbreviated off season will throw pics. my point was simply u dont throw 2 400 yrd games (one against) the superbowl champs on luck alone. he’s been up and down..but i think its safe to say he has a better skill set than tebow and has, so far produced more with less experience and coaching in the NFL.
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
Those 2 games were the first two.
You don’t think the lack of film had anything to do with it?
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
But he didn't throw an INT Sunday and has shown improvement.
Tebow, against the 31st D in the League (per FO), looked like trash for 55 minutes. He doesn’t seem to be getting better while Cam is.
Formerly known as Florida State Jay.
by Jamil Dawson on Oct 25, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sayihng Tebow is any better than Cam, but
I just don’t think Cam is that good. As far as experience, who has more career starts?
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Cam
Which actually reflects poorly on Tebow IMO. He’s been there two years. He’s had more of everything than Cam except starts.
Cam isn’t good relative to the best in the NFL. We agree there. I just think he’s better than Tebow and has a higher ceiling.
Formerly known as Florida State Jay.
by Jamil Dawson on Oct 25, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying that Tebow is any better, just that I think he can hang around the league as a QB.
Maybe a backup, but he’ll make a roster. Hill and Douglas make him out to be garbage, he’s not. He’ll never lead a team to the Super Bowl, but Kyle Boller is still inthe league for God’s sake.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I must have really meant that tish.
It showed up twice.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No thats a great point
i was trying to imply that by saying he was a rookie. but after re-reading my post i didnt really communicate that. i absolutely thing the film ahd somethign to do with it. but he’s stall had one or two 300 yrd games and in general played ok.
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
horrible spelling smh
think* not thing
had* not had
still* not stall
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
So Clint Trickett is awful right?
Team work make the dream work
by lloydg on Oct 25, 2011 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow, comment got pushed down quite a bit
Reply to nole res
Team work make the dream work
by lloydg on Oct 25, 2011 2:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not Awful, but
not gonna lead his team to any titles either. WHo do think is closer to the real Clint Trickett, the one who played against OU and CU or the one who played against WF?
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
[Please stand-by for test of a former Cane's allegiances....]
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He’s as good as Ken Dorsey ever was.
Dorsey wasn't going to put a team on his shoulders, but he was great at getting the ball to his playmakers and not making mental mistakes.
Dorsey was an extension of the coach. Hell, under Coker, he was the best coach Miami had at the time.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Clint Trickett could very well aspire to that same role.
Would just need an offensive line that kept him off the turf for about 2.5 straight seasons.
He very well could be.
Trickett hasn’t had a chance to develop yet, though. Trickett in 2 years should look alot different than Trickett today. I’m talking about Trickett right now.
If Trickett starts after E.J. is gone, it’s because Winston is swinging a bat or is a complete bust.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Coker suffers a career ending eye injury because his hair got wrapped around his eyeball...
…or he tripped over his birkenstocks
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
by CornNole on Oct 25, 2011 4:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Trickett is good to patch things up for a short peiod of time, but I hope we don't have to rely on him long term.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think will...
Not with Coker/Maguire/Winston on deck.
I am very interested in how Tricketts presence influences Jimbo when the time comes. Things we know
-He will know the playbook better than any other QB
-He will probably give us that “coach on the field” presence that CP7 gave us, which means getting the offense into the right play
-He can throw it around a ton…
I could easily see a platoon, depending on the hot hand/situation
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
by CornNole on Oct 25, 2011 4:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No run threat
makes our O one-dimensional and all to easy to stop… see Wake Forest ’11.
Championship!
Not if we can run with our running backs.
What was your roommates name? I most likely played with him...
-The one and only DRusso97
on designed runs, the O
has a 1-man advantage that doesn’t exist when a RB runs.
Also, I want my QB to be able to do the following (which Trickett can’t):
1. avoid sacks & scramble while planting a stiff-arm, throwing off a defender off, etc.
2. take/deliver a hit
p.s. Coker has a stronger arm than Trick
Championship!
I understand how designed QB runs work. Everyone wants a QB that can do those things you listed. A mobile QB gives you advantages a guy like Trickett doesn’t, but we weren’t not running the ball against Wake because EJ wasn’t back there. Our Oline was garbage in that game.
p.s. And I think Coker will be our starting QB in 2013.
What was your roommates name? I most likely played with him...
-The one and only DRusso97
I'd bet money Coker beats Trickett out in Spring, 2013.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Thing is
Candi is good. Tebow is not.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Oct 25, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cam
Damn autocorrect
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I woulda just stuck with the candi
i thought you did it on purpose
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Autocorrected Cam to Candi?
Gotta love how it automatically assumed you were trying to spell a stripper’s name! AMFK must be spending a lot of time texting the girls from his local boobie bar :-)
by teter10 on Oct 25, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey now, watch it … Jimbo’s wife’s name is…
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
Ma'am.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
He is?
I think he’s inaccurate and makes a lot of dumb decisions. I’m not saying Tebow’s good, but Cam isn’t good either, which is the point of my post.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Cam Newton is a rookie and he could make the pro bowl this year. You must not seen some of the passes he made this year. Cam Newton is far better than any rookie QB this year. Carolina is just Carolina. Newton is a stud.
Team work make the dream work
by lloydg on Oct 25, 2011 12:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I saw the Jacksonville game
where he couldn’t throw an accurate pass to save his life. Cam Newton is throwing to Steve Smith, Greg Olsen, and Jeremy Shockey. Plus, he has Deangelo Williams and J. Stewart. Cam has way more weapons then Tebow.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
yea
you saw in that game that the first half was played in a monsoon as well…Cam is far superior than Tebow…not even close…
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Even when it wasn't raining
he was way off target. He’s better based on what? #‘s? He’s on a much better team and he’s throwing bombs to Steve Smith who’s playing out of his mind. I’d say Cam’s better then Tebow too, but that doesn’t make him good.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Cam Newton is a rookie starter, Tebow is in his second year.
As we like to say around here; “Not sure if serious”. Because your point about Hugh Douglas and Jemele Hill is kinda ridiculous.
by WPNoleJ on Oct 25, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How is it rediculous?
Those two also attacked Jay Cutler for basically saying the same thing Vick said a week before.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Jay Cutler will always be considered soft...
After last years playoff game, in which he was injured, and never returned. He will have trouble living down that perception.
Tebow throws an awful pass. His skill set is his size and ability to run.
"You can’t live a perfect day until you do something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
— John Wooden
by pasadenanole22 on Oct 25, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree.
Cutler played 4 years at Vandy with a horrible line and ran for his life recently on Monday Night Football and is still considered soft. I personally don’t like the smug look on his face. His body language is atrocious and I find it difficult to fathom how he can be considered a leader. Having said that, he does have a laser rocket arm.
by CashvilleNole on Oct 25, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Those who consider that kid soft are idiots.
He’s tough as nails, and would do anything to play football.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Didn't he take pain killers or something to try and get back into the NFCCG?
It’s pretty hard to look tough when your offensive line doesn’t protect you at all. GETTING SACKED MAKES YOU SOFT!!!!! is what people seem to think
Still pissed that the SEC refs hosed him out of a victory against UF.
Believe that was their 2006 championship year?
Andy Dalton disagrees.
Formerly known as Florida State Jay.
by Jamil Dawson on Oct 25, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I want Tebow to start
Against a slate of teams. I like that Ponder got his start on the same day, but hate that ol teblow gets to go against a bottom-3 team and Ponder faces the best in the league.
I’ve wanted the Denver fans to get what they want so he can finally show what a crap release, inability to read a defense, and happy feet actually look like
by Nolesos Locos on Oct 25, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Besides
why not just cheer for Ponder
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I do not understand, could you be more specific?
There are several Caucasian analysts who also critique Tebow and do not think he can make in the NFL as a QB. These same analysts also break down film of Cam and feel his skill set will lead him to be successful in the league.
Hodge disagrees.
I already gave you two examples, just watch First Take, every black person on that show defends Cam and Vick but attacks Tebow, yet when they describe Tebow, the description could fit for any of the 3.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Maybe theyre just tired of hearing Skip Bayliss cream over Teblow every morning.
Every. Single. Morning.
Bayliss would fight John Gruden over who got to smell Tebows sh!t first
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by NorFla_Nole on Oct 25, 2011 1:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
lol
Well, I disagree with Skip because he thinks Tebow’s good. I don’t, but it makes me mad to see people who make the same mistakes that Tebow does, and don’t win football games get hyped up while Tebow gets crtitiqued to death. Gruden never has anything bad to say anyway, which gets annoying.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Even though I disagree with Skip Bayless pretty much everything not Vick related,
and I don’t think Tebow is a good NFL QB, until Tebow quits winning it’s hard to put up much of an argument.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
he'll most likely quit winning
when he plays better teams…Miami is god awful
by rythefly on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not true
thats like saying until Ponder quits losing its hard to say he’s any good
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
I think Tebow is the next Vince Young.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinjda off topic, but I remember hearing Colin Cowherd say Young's throwing motion looks like
he’s trying to sling dog poo off his hand.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You should read that Barnwell article....
Tebow did help in the win but in terms of increasing their chance of winning the Strip-sack-fumble by DJ Williams changed that game.
Not to mention Tebow had little to do with recovering an onside kick.
But the real credit goes to Jesus Christ who produced the miracle.
by FSUjab on Oct 25, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Quits winning"?!??
until Tebow quits winning it’s hard to put up much of an argument.
The Broncos are 2-0 vs the 2 worst teams of the last 2 years (2010 Texans/2011 Dolphins, and the ONLY game where Tebow has put up impressive numbers came vs the worst NFL defense of the last decade-plus….2010 Texans.
BTW – recover a goddamn onside kick, Dolphins, and this never happens.
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Then, so far, he's doing what he's suppose to then.
Right?
Look, I don’t think Tebow will ever make a Pro Bowl. I just think alot of people are writing him off too early.
I never heard people saying Vince Young was awful (which he clearly was) when the Titans were winning in spite of him. Everyone just said, “All he does is win games.” What’s the difference?
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by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You have a pretty LOW barometer for "doing what he's supposed to"...
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Don't lose to worse teams.
That’s how you keep a job. Eventually, he’ll have to play equal or better teams. That’s when he’ll be exposed.
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by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He already has.......and he already has.
“Beat the worst team in football” isn’t exactly an NFL job description.
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When did they play the Colts?
All I’m saying is, you spent first round money on him and your team is going nowhere. Throw him out there and let him sink or swim.
I put the "FUNK" in Functional Alcoholic.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 27, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the Dolphins would find a way to lose to the Colts.....
#WhereTheresAWillTheresAWay
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The Colts are a snake with the head cut off.
Completely helpless. Having Luck sitting behind Manning for a couple seasons will be a nice consilation prize, though.
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by Nole Resurrected on Oct 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
"All he does is win games." What’s the difference?
Not against St. Augustine High! Woohoo!
Trust me, I do this all the time.
They're going to have to fight Brennamen and Lundqvist then.
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You have no idea what kinda of person Cam is...and I willing to bet nobody else here does
I don’t either but all you know is how he is portrayed on tv…
Excellent point....
None of us know Tebow or Newton personally, yet feel like we can make personality assessments based off of what ESPN feeds us…..
I dont care at all.
My favorite team is the Pittsburgh Steelers and my QB might be a sleezeball. But Im hiring a babysitter where character matters, I want a QB who can play the position at a high level.
by WPNoleJ on Oct 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Cam’s a lot better QB than Tebow.
What was your roommates name? I most likely played with him...
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by RollNole5 on Oct 25, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It depends on what they're defending Cam and attacking Tebow for.
I’m talking about Joe Fan not Hill and Hugh. I will defend Cam and criticize Tebow because Cam looks competent under center and Tebow looks lost. Cam is showing improvement and Tebow is not.
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by Jamil Dawson on Oct 25, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Ponder an option?
If so, give me CP7.
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by Jamil Dawson on Oct 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Give me Cam out of the rookies.
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by lloydg on Oct 25, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tebow sucks
Cam doesn’t. How is that racially motivated?
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by CornNole on Oct 25, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Easily
You’re clearly a racist or you would see the correlation.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I will
because his name is Tolerance.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Because white people aren't smart enough to play quarterback.
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I honestly haven't watched much ESPN lately regarding Tebow... I usually change the channel
But, what exactly is this “racially based criticism”?
Is it really just criticism from analysts of another race?
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ESPN been in the background all day...
And you’d think he won the superbowl…it’s ridiculous.
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I don’t think race has anything to do with it. His biggest “hater” is Merrill Hodge. People just don’t think he’s a good QB.
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by lloydg on Oct 25, 2011 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kanell is way too obsessed with Tebow.
by PullingGuardGator on Oct 25, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
haha..worked for me.
I’m not even in the “Tebow is God” camp, but I even bit on some of his tweets.
by PullingGuardGator on Oct 25, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I replied to one of his tweets
Told him he needs to do a Ponder/Tebow highlight/lowlight comparison during the FSU game this Saturday, which he’ll be calling
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Holy chit!
Tebow took over this thread and I didnt know he had the power to do that! Creepy!
Trust me, I do this all the time.
KanellEverybody is way too obsessed with Tebow.
I just don’t care.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I actively don't care
I don’t click on links with his name. No reason to give him the good kind of “hits.”
Tim Tebow = Mike Bianchi
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I don't either.
My point is that you can’t say someone sucks, and then give reasons why he sucks, but then defend another QB who does the exact same thing. Merrill Hodge has also criticised Cam Newton, which is why I don’t have a problem.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
i dont hear
those analysts defend tavares (sp) jackson. and he has the same issues….mobile but inaccurate and poor decision making. EVERYONE agrees he sucks. and he had plenty of weapons in Minny b4 farve got there.
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
So then why defend Vick and Cam?
Vick is on one of the most talented teams in the league and can’t even get to .500. I think he threw 3 INT’s against the freakin Bills. He’s never got to a Super Bowl, isn’t accurate at all and he’s considered by many to be one of the top 10 QB’s in the league??
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Vick
had an incredible seaons last yr. he deserves the top 10 ranking. THIS year his line is GARBAGE and he has been rushed and beat up. but he has been crticized for his pics this year?? and honestly…the answer to your question why? because they are both BETTER than t.jackson. the panthers added 2 tight ends ( who have been good but havent set the world on fire in NC) in the offseason, other wise the team was exactly the same as the one jimmy clausen led…that sucked last year. Cam has put up good numbers and played well with essentially the same team. compare completion percentage and yrds to tebow’s?? there’s no comparison. tebow, is a bad nfl qb. it just is what it is.
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
Btw Tom Brady threw 4 INTs vs those same Bills....
Using one game to make your point isn’t a good idea.
Ok
Brady and Vick each have 8 INT’s but Brady has 7 more TD’s, has a higher completion %, almost 600 more yards. And Vick has better weapons.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
no way
am i saying mike vick is better than tom brady. not even close. brady is tops in the league…maybe aaron rodgers is better. but thats about it.
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
Not sure what your trying to argue here.
Im not saying Vick is better than Brady, I was objecting to your use of one game to talk about a players overall performance.
And by every measurement (statistically and mechanically) Cam Newton is a better QB than Tebow and projects as a better QB in the future. Its not a race based opinion. You’ll find MANY MANY NFL writers and analysts who do not think Tebow will be a good NFL QB. I disagree wholeheartedly that ESPNs black analysts are against Tebow because hes white. However I myself have noticed that many Tebow defenders are asking teams and analysts to do things for him that were never done for many QB with his same…..ummm “skillset”. “Change the entire offense for Tebow”, “run the option”, hell Skip Bayless thinks the Broncos should run a “spread no-huddle” (which is laughable for a QB with a 40% completion percentage).
I do not hate Tebow, I think hes a great person. But I dont think Cam Newton is a bad person either, but in the NFL its not about who the better person, its about who is a better player. Ben Rothlisberger is sleezy, but Tim Tebow will never be as good a player as him.
I never said Tebow was good.
Maybe they defend Cam and Vick because they are black? My original point is that you can’t say Tebow sucks because he does this that and the other, but then defend other QB’s who do the exact same thing.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Its a relative thing
Tebow sucks all the time
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by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thats not fair.
if the citicisms of tebow were un-true or inaccurate than you could pull the race card and i would have no problem but just because a white player plays poorly and gets crticized for it by black analysts doesnt make it racism.
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
Who does the exact same thing in the NFL?
Name me ONE QB with numbers in there career as bad as Tebows are that starts? You wont find one Black or White NFL starter that does.
So no there are no QBs who do the exact same thing
Wow
I don’t get what’s so hard to understand. I have already said Cam is better then Tebow. I have said Tebow is NOT a good QB. BUT, my problem is that Tebow gets bashed, and probably deserves to, but they defend other people who do the same things. Just because Cam is more accurate then Tebow doesn’t make him accurate.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
I get your angle.
This isn’t about Cam v. Tebow at all. It’s the talking heads that talk out of both sides of their necks. I feel your frustration. It’s why I hated the hard on they had for Favre. He was called a gunslinger for doing things other QBs were trashed for.
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by Jamil Dawson on Oct 25, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally
and I always thought Favre was over rated. He’s like Tony Romo Sr. but he’s a first ballod HoFer? Maybe, just maybe, all those records came from him being a starting QB for longer then I’ve been alive, not excellent QB play.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Couldn't agree more. Favre = Compiler.
When he was on, he was great but too many times he made the dumb decision.
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by Jamil Dawson on Oct 25, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Biggest difference between Favre and Romo.....
Favre just got away with alot of his bad throws. Romo doesn’t get away with any.
1 Corinthians 13:11
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by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Favre had a rocket arm. Thus, the difference.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
Biggest difference between Favre & Romo
was Favre had Holmgren in his life for a period of time who when he was with him stopped all the tom-foolery and wasn’t afraid to chew him out.
In Atlanta, Farve had the side-show of Jerry Glanville & the smith family and post-Holmgren, no one was brave enough to call him out on "gunslinger’ stuff and poor footwork.
Holmgren was a offensive minded task master who was GREAT for his career and cleaned up a lot of his bad habits.
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It wasn't just longevity.
If we want to talk about magic for one game, just go back to college when Favre beat the Noles like a red headed step child when our team should have crushed Southern Misissippi. That was not the only time when he made the difference, but it should bear more weight on this site. I still hate that game. When he was on, he was special. IMO it was not just that he was gratuitously offered enough chances to play so that he eventually put up great numbers over time.
I didnt mention Cam at all in my last post.....
I was just asking you to name these QBs “who do the same things”. Because you wont find any.
And in terms of accuracy (only since you brought it up). Newton has attempted 252 passes and completed 60.3% of his passes as a rookie. Tebow in 2 years has 117 attempts and completed 48.7% of his passes (45% completion pct this year).
Cam is accurate, Tebow is not.
Again.
My problem is Tim Tebow for WHATEVER reasons gets afforded opportunities that others do not. I dont even think its race based I just dont know what it is.
But at this point Tebow is what he his; an inaccurate scrambling QB who has shown no ability to consistently read defense, make good decisions, step into throws under pressure or make the correct checks at the line. QBs that have been drafted that have done all of these things have NEVER been given the leeway that Tebow seems to have.
Its odd, I dont get it and it frankly annoys me, that his character is brought up time and time again rather than his in game performance.
Deep down, you know what it is.......
My problem is Tim Tebow for WHATEVER reasons gets afforded opportunities that others do not. I dont even think its race based I just dont know what it is.
Tebow sells jerseys and tickets for a horrible team who invested too much money into him as a first round pick. They’re trying to get some of their money back.
1 Corinthians 13:11
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by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd get a chance to start too if the choice were between you and Kyle Orton
I wouldn’t worry. The NFL’s favorite game with new QBs is “He’s not a bust, but…” and Tebow’s career is going right according to script.
Look at it:
The year to “learn the system while working on his mechanics”,
the pressure-free mop up duty,
the early struggles,
the encouraging win against the league’s worst team.
Now here’s the next step, the promising first bit of ESPN coverage.
Next will come a couple of starts against better teams where he will struggle and Orton will have to come to the rescue. The verdict will be “he’s still got some things to work on”, and back to the bench he’ll go.
Pretty soon, the Broncos will pick up another veteran QB in a trade and, ala Matt Leinart, start him over Tebow. That’s when you’ll know that his career is officially over.
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Kyle Boller started last Sunday.
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by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
and another thing
he went to Florida?!?! why are you so focused on supporting a UF qb??
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
I have noticed the other thing you mentioned : the black analysts will never give real criticism of Vick or Newton. It pained Antonio pierce to say anything bad about McNabb yesterday.
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i remember
feeling the same way about tebow. lots of talk of him being high character and a “hard worker” and “good team mate” until he stunk it up on the field and everyone had to let go of defending him
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
I dont see the same thing you guys see.....
Maybe its because Im black, but I dont think it is.
I just get annoyed that on a football show, or when discussing Tim Tebow the FIRST thing mentioned is “Ya know, hes such a great guy…..”. That maybe true but thats not what were talking about.
Lets talk about him missing wide open guys, not stepping into throws, having AWFUL mechanics, not be able to read defenses, etc. Maybe Cam Newton isnt a good person (he very will could be since NONE of us actually know him) but he has shown the ability to do all of those things I just mentioned in the NFL. Tebow has not.
oh sure
the black guy comes to the defense of Newton
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Watch Jamele Hill. She NEVER criticizes a black player.
Hell, she defende Vick’s dogfighting hobby. “It’s not a big deal in the hood” argument. He was unfairly punished because he’s black. I LOATHE Jamele Hill.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
not true
i remember specifically not being a fan of jemelle hill after she berated allen iverson a while back on a lot of thing that had NOTHING to do with basketball. and this was when she FIRST started showing up on first and 10. i personally am not a fan of jemelle, being im from orlando and she used to do work in Fl. i felt like she gave fl a bad name…but she def does criticize black players. maybe not at the pace you would like. but she does.
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
The pace I'd like is.......
the same pace she criticizes black players. That’s all.
1 Corinthians 13:11
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by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You said "NEVER"
i just wanted to point out that i know that not to be true
"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher
How many opportunities to criticize white players does she have though?
Im sure your “pace” is impossible to reach, since there not as many white players in the NFL as black players. Especially at the skill positions which get most of the highlights and pub.
Im sure your "pace" is impossible to reach,
Trust me dude, trying to imply I’m racist won’t make me back down.
there not as many white players in the NFL as black players.
Then she’s had alot of chances to bash black players, yet I hear more of her bashing the few white players there are that the multitudes of black players.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
why do you keep track of the 'pace' in the 1st place?
if this was true – why would it bother you so much?
what’s really at stake here?
When you're not killing dogs or taking bribes
People are going to be inclined to cut you more slack.
There are similar instances every day at work. If you’re a jerk and screw up, you’re toast. If you’re a nice guy people are willing to give you a pass.
ot but...
extremely ot, but is wp standing for winter park? Just curious since I was class of ’03 outta there.
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by metalheadnole on Oct 25, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
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arghz, was meant to reply to WPNoleJ
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by metalheadnole on Oct 25, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That's who you replied to.
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I don't get how Tebow blew up into whatever it is he's become.
Will always be a mystery.
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Right place, right time.
Although its humorous that people have totally thrown away Chris Leak as though he had nothing to do with Uf winning the national championship and it was all Tebow.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
Yeah, defense was stellar but its as though Leak gets tossed aside. People remember Weurfel and then Tebow… but act as though Leak wasn’t there.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
The one thing I remember about Leak was
he threw the prettiest, tightest, sweetest looking
spiral ever!!!!!!!
I don't remember that.
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I do, I played against him twice in the NS State Championship in HS...
Passing like that was unheard of in NC around that time. They’d throw it around 50+ times a game and he had a beautiful ball.
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Yes he did
I was so jealous of UF when they got him.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 26, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
fwiw
s a smith just completely annihilated jamarcus russell on 1st take
called him a thief, jabba the hut, that he should be arrested for robbing from teh raiders, that he was the epitome of a disgrace, never gave one ounce of effort, that he was a fat slovenly bum, he didnt care and his teammates were ashamed to be on the same team as him -
just absolutely crushed him for a solid 2 minutes
Good story on JR in Sports Illustrated. Seems he suffers from sleep apnea and this caused most of his problems.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
yeah -seems the apnea drove him to the clubs till 4 am -
causing him to fall asleep in the film room
and also causing him to report to camp at 293 lb
poor guy…
they are even worse when it comes to critzing a black coach
we are getting closer to a color blind society but we aint there yet
.....and God forbid they debate anything to do with
Serena Williams.
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by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Criticism?
He gets just as much, if not more, hype than he does criticism.
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I've honestly stopped reading ESPN's ACC blog.
And I hate myself much much less than I use to since I stopped reading it. It provides no analysis or interesting/unique takes on anything of substance. To add injury to insult, I use to even post and interact with mouth breathers in the comment section. It just isn’t worth it. I’ll take a peek if something is linked on this site (like today), but even then the chances of me clicking the link is 50/50.
WOOOOOW HD is just turrrrrrble
by NOLEisticscience on Oct 25, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't EVER post there!
It’s just a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob.
2011 BCS Bowl
2012 MNC
Eeeeeeexcellent
by SoCalNole on Oct 25, 2011 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, and DODGE!
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
You mean the ACC Asylem or whatever they call it?
Yeah, it’s a waste of time. It’s like a bad comedy routine.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
players we won't be facing Saturday
Nate Irving, Mustafa Greene, Russell Wilson.
Glennon seems to be warming up, and they get some injured players back, but this is the most confident I’ve been about a win since Charleston Southern.
by FredGarvin...NoleProstitute on Oct 25, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
at that point I was worried we might implode
maybe I worry too much
by FredGarvin...NoleProstitute on Oct 25, 2011 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is that why
your friends call you whiskers?
by amandell3000 on Oct 25, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Cause he's curious like a cat.
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- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
im still kinda worried
NC State has been that recent thorn in our side. But our chances are better that Irving Greene,and Wilson are not there. I think we are inproving but I guess better late than never huh.
by NOLEisticscience on Oct 25, 2011 12:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope we put up another 40 this week.
Well that’s as long as we don’t give up over 40……I had to catch myself on that one, wish for something and you might just get it. Always be specific.
by NOLEisticscience on Oct 25, 2011 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
trust me
FSU is going to smoke NC State…stop living in the past.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Oct 25, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
the past being like 3 weeks ago?
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Oct 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Yes. Sorry, but Steve Jobs isn't coming back.
Buy a Zune and move on, bro.
by The K-Man on Oct 25, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no
past as in the past few years when NCSU had a mobile QB who could throw it….and we had a defense that couldn’t stop my 81 year old grandma from crossing the sidewalk if she wanted too….
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It sucks
to have a front-loaded schedule. NC State will only give us trouble if we play stupid football. If I remember correctly, this a team that has been forced to play walk-ons on the defensive line. We should be 6-3 heading into the Miami game and 8-3 heading into the UF game. I think we have a solid chance of winning out the rest of the way.
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by Matt Champion on Oct 25, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Another team that schemes all year to beat us to get their marquee win. I was fine with losing to OU and Clemson considering the circumstances, but the Wake loss still makes me sick to my stomach. I hate the stupid effing look on Tom OBrien’s face every year when we lose. If I have to look at it again, I’m going to break my tv and just listen to radio broadcasts from now on.
One of my favorite SNL characters
“Let me just remove my truss and we can get started”.
I think HD is rating FSU low because...
She want run the risk of overrating us and getting burned In case of an upset. I would do the same honestly
"Expectations are high and you can't run from expectations"-Jimbo Fisher
by WinstonSalemNole on Oct 25, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
I think she's clearly ranking us low
Because we have no shot at winning our division. Every team above us can still win its division, but we have two losses and I believe Clemson only has two more ACC games including Wake Forest. This precludes us correct?
Three games left for Clemson, but essentially yes.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
Is there any real chance we end up in the Chick-Fil-A bowl?
The other division is a mess right now. So much so they could send a 2 loss team to the title game. Assuming Clemson wins out and Wake loses a couple more, we could be the second best (at least by looks/record) team in the ACC if we win out.
hmmmm interesting question.
FSU would travel well there…….but I’m not sure they would take a 3 loss team, but I think if we win the rest of our games by a larger margin I could see it happening.
by NOLEisticscience on Oct 25, 2011 1:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's true.
If we win out (I know that is far from a given) I think we would be a pretty attractive selection. And since it is verse an SEC team our fans would be pretty excited. I know I would travel to see us play any SEC team.
My thoughts exactly
Saw the projection of VT vs. Auburn and got excited thinking about a matchup with them.
by SteelerNole21 on Oct 25, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Ditto, would love to play Auburn.
If their QB situation remains the same, our defense would eat their lunch. UF’s D is clearly a level down from ours thus far and they even had Auburn stymied on their home field for the majority of the game, and if it weren’t for horrific special teams, they might have fought to the death to a zero-zero tie.
Whether Wake actually finishes ahead of us is mostly irrelevant
As long as FSU finishes strong (9-3, maybe even 8-4), they should be on the table for the CFA bowl. The only real competition for that bowl will be Clem and VT. Best case scenario for making this bowl is Clem winning out and losing ACCCG to VT. That would theoretically give ACC 2 BCS teams and almost assure an 8-4+ FSU of the CFA Bowl.
The other best hope for that bowl is FSU winning out and not making the ACCCG with a record of 8-4 or worse.
by Mr. Tito Carlos on Oct 25, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Clemson will be in the Chick Fil A Bowl.
Guarantee.
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by pasadenanole22 on Oct 25, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting. Who's going to win the ACC?
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody
It’s that bad.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice. Serioulsy, though.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps his brain has yet to adjust to an undefeated Clemson and awful Coastal division
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Whover beats Clemson in the ACC Championship Game.
I think Clemson loses the week after they clinch the division.
Beat USCe then lose focus and blow the ACC Championship game.
Probably lose their bowl game.
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by pasadenanole22 on Oct 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what game would suck for the ACC?
Clemson v. Boise
I could see Boise taking that defense to the woodshed and Boise’s D is pretty darn good with a few weeks to prepare.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
In contrast
I think FSU would match up very well against Boise St. and I would put money on FSU.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont want that game at all though
If we lose we look like crap and if we win its just oh they were overrated.
I would love it.
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Boise beating a one/two loss ACC champ would be worse than Clemson winning a national title, IMO. I hate Boise.
>>---l>
Agree.
If Clemson wins a NC, Morris is gone for sure (and he may be anyways…)
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by CornNole on Oct 25, 2011 3:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No they are not...
I was shocked when Malzahn stayed at Auburn…
…then I saw his contract.
I wonder if Clemson could afford to spend over a mil on an OC?
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by CornNole on Oct 25, 2011 3:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They would be stupid not to...
but my hope is that the arms race of coaching salaries is going to put the incentives close to Dabo’s contract… and then Clemson gets itself in a hairy situation.
Hairy?
Dumb your worthless HC to keep your OC who turned your offense around in less than a year?
Seems pretty cut and dry to me!
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Since the Orange Bowl has last choice, I could see this, sadly.
Otherwise, Clemson will curbstomp the Big East champ.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
That's what would happen, too.
Since beating OU, Boise has gotten some pretty favorable matchups in bowls.
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by Nole Resurrected on Oct 25, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
IDK. Nobody in the coastal looks any good.
I think we may have to root for SCAR or whoever CU plays in the bowl to keep Dabo from being annointed King of the Idiots.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Clemson gets killed in any BCS game (except playing the Big East)
but they would probably win any other bowl game IMO.
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by freshcollegeboy on Oct 25, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I may be rooting for Clemson to win out and then lose the ACC CG to whomever.
Maybe the odds wouldn’t be in my favor. Then the ACC would get two BCS bowls, right? Most likely. At that point I hope Clemson loses again. And if it’s to Boise State or someone like Rutgers (whoever is the Big East Champ) then GREAT.
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Yes.
If we finish within one win/loss of Wake and the Coastal Champ, the Peach has the option to take us over teams that finished higher than us. Finish more than one game out and I don’t believe they can take us.
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Random question
Does anyone have a YouTube or GIF of the vicious KO block that Jermaine Thomas put on the Defensive End of Maryland?
That was one of the best blocks I’ve ever seen.
WAR PAINT OF TN
Is it from this year?
If it is I probably could.
by NationWideNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
lol that was just on Saturday
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't see that one when I rewatched the game
I should be able to make a HD gif of that
by NationWideNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you could get Bud to put that on the front page when he does the film break down
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been in communication with him about that.
I sent me EJ’s block on Freeman’s run in the fourth. I love it when your QB will lay someone out!
by NationWideNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Nole on Nole help, gotta love it
let’s just hope it doesn’t lead to anole sex. that just gets weird
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can anything get inside of Heather Dinich?
Better yet, would anything want to?
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I fail to see the problem here.....
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I dont even think it was supposed to be a block
I think he was just chipping
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he was just chipping
But I’ve never seen a Running Back take out a DE on a chip like that
WAR PAINT OF TN
thats what I'm saying
its like he threw the whole bag at him
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Looked like less a chip
And more a crackback
What makes that so great
Is Sanders is dropping back to pass block and Jermaine is like “I got him” That is how you should chip
by NationWideNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's Hart
which is why its so great because he’s really helping the youngin out there
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone, say it with me:
“I will not post about Tebow anymore on TN.”
Do you see the volume of posts in this thread? It doesn’t matter if it’s good or bad, whatever… I just think there are sufficient outlets, elsewhere, to read about and/or discuss him ad nauseum. (And if PullingGuard or one of the other “friendly” reptiles brings his name up or even references him in the slightest, I recommend a 1 week autoban!)
My two cents. i am abiding by this voluntary program effective… now.
by arrdub on Oct 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
HERE HERE!
We can all agree Tebow is overrated, let’s move on.
Sorry, didn't mean to start all that.
I’m done now that someone finally saw where I was coming from.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
You need to first convince the Bud
to stop linking articles about him. And while you’re at it…tell him to cut out the HD links, as well.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Oct 25, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
lets not cut off the nose to spite the face
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Oct 25, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
DO throw out the baby with the bath water.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Sounds good to me.
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upset alert!
To top it all off HD has put us on upset alert again. Jimbo must have crossed her during the off season!
by ChiefOceola on Oct 25, 2011 5:11 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
What is Coker's mobility like?
by ChiefOceola on Oct 25, 2011 9:35 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Very good.
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 25, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
like EJ good or Ponder good?
by ChiefOceola on Oct 25, 2011 9:47 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Are you crapping me?
I will admit I never saw a lot of film on the guy, but I remembered him being like a 4.8 guy or so on most of the scouting stuff I saw in h.s. on Coker and he’s a big guy, like 6-5, 225 or so if I recall.
So are you being sarcastic, or is he really a mobile guy? I assumed he was a prototypical pocket passer, i.e. Trickett with NFL size.
They ran an option system.
That’s why he was under the radar. He ran more than he threw. I may recall that they shifted towards a pass-oriented offense last year, though.
Also think he was a fairly high-level basketball player. Good athlete.
He is capable of being much more than a pocket passer.
FSU will not be scared to run option and zone reads with him. He’s not fast, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t mobile…
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by onebarrelrum on Oct 26, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s mobile like Culpepper not Vick
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Wow, awesome news about Coker. Can see why the "under the radar" but really high upside talk.
BTW, anyone have any info on where Gerald Christian ends up? Transferring from FU along with Robert “special teams maestro” Clark. Christian is a Lowndes County boy, I believe…
Christian is a Dwyer kid from Palm Beach
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Isn't Clark from Dwyer, too?
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