Florida State Film Review: N.C. State Wolfpack 0 - Noles 34

by Bud Elliott on Nov 1, 2011 9:26 PM EDT in FSU Football

Here it is, another edition of the Florida State Film Review. Unless you're in Jimbo's office, this is the only place you'll find a complete breakdown of every meaningful play run by the 'Noles. This week, we break down FSU's domination of N.C. State

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D-D	Yard	Play	Formation	Analysis
		HOPKINS,D. kickoff 55 yards to the ST15, Haynes, D. return 19 yards to the ST34 (SMITH,T.).		Not going to give T.J. Graham a shot

1-10	St34	Washington, J. rush over left guard for 4 yards to the ST38 (WILLIAMS,V.), clock 14:46.		Power play, Anthony McCloud and Brandon Jenkins both squeeze well. Vince Williams is aggressive but doesn't play correct shoulder.
2-6	St38	Glennon, M. sideline pass incomplete to Payton, Q. (DAWKINS,E.), clock 14:24.		Everett Dawkins with the great effort to bat the ball down. Fire zone.
3-6	St38	Glennon, M. middle pass incomplete to Washington, J. (BROOKS,T.), clock 14:19.		Great coverage in the secondary, particularly by Greg Reid. Terrence Brooks closes quickly on the checkdown.
		Drive: 3 plays, 4 yards, TOP 00:54		Great team defense and unselfish play.

4-6	St38	Baumann, W. punt 44 yards to the FS18, downed.		Excellent punt, not much to do about it.

1-10	Fs18	FREEMAN,D. rush up middle for 7 yards to the FS25 (Wolff, E.), clock 13:52.	22 I	Inside zone to the field. Devonta Freeman good cut and hard running. Nice blocks by the center and guards.
2-3	Fs25	PRYOR,L. rush left for 5 yards to the FS30, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds (Manning, T.), clock 13:27.	12 gun twins field	Draw to Lonnie Pryor. Excellent double team by Zebrie Sanders and Beau Reliford.
1-10	Fs30	MANUEL,E crossing pass complete to SMITH,R. for 9 yards to the FS39 (Amerson, D.), clock 12:58.	21 gun	EJ works the frontside progression off three-step and hits the curl.
2-1	Fs39	PRYOR,L. rush over right guard for no gain to the FS39 (Cole, A.), clock 12:23.	21 I twins field	Give to Lonnie. He missed the hole. Had it blocked to the boundary in the C gap.
3-1	Fs39	FREEMAN,D. rush over left guard for no gain to the FS39 (Kuhn, M.;Slay, B.), clock 11:55	22 I	Inside zone is stuffed by an excellent play from Markus Kuhn. FSU did not come off the ball well here.
		Drive: 5 plays, 21 yards, TOP 02:43		Pretty poor opening drive.

4-1	Fs39	POWELL,S. punt 42 yards to the ST19, fair cch by Graham, T..		Rather be at the 19 than in the end zone. And no opportunity for return. Well done.

1-10	St19	Washington, J. rush over right tackle for 4 yards to the ST23 (JERNIGAN,T.;CARRADINE,C.), clock 11:05.		Cameron Erving gets blocked and Nigel Bradham is slow to react.
2-6	St23	Glennon, M. sacked for loss of 8 yards to the ST15 (CARRADINE,C.), clock 10:38.		Tremendous play by Cornellius Carradine. Destroys the offensive tackle.
3-14	St15	Glennon, M. sideline pass complete to Smith, J. for 9 yards to the ST24, out-of-bounds (REID,G.), clock 09:51.		Excellent situational football by Greg Reid. Allowing the 9-yard catch is fine on 3rd-14. Greg got him OOB. Pressure by Brandon Jenkins forced him out of the pocket and into the dump off.
		Drive: 3 plays, 5 yards, TOP 01:53		Hard to play much better defense than this.

4-5	St24	Baumann, W. punt 43 yards to the FS33, REID,G. return 28 yards to the ST39, out-of-bounds (Thompson, S.).		Nice return by Greg and poor tackling and coverage by N.C. State. This was more bad NCSU than it was good FSU

1-10	St39	MANUEL,E sideline pass complete to GREEN,C. for 32 yards to the ST7, 1ST DOWN FS (McGill, T.), clock 09:15.	11 gun	Quick out to Christian Green, NCSU defender underestimates his speed, and Green shows off his talent. Ball to playmakers in space.

1-G	St07	FREEMAN,D. rush option left for 7 yards to the ST0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 08:46.	11 pistol	Speed option to the field. Sanders gets just enough of the backer to create the edge, gets away with a hold, EJ holds the ball very well, draws defenders, and pitches to Devonta Freeman who is in perfect position.

		HOPKINS,D. kick tempt good.
		Florida Ste 7, NC Ste 0
		Drive: 2 plays, 39 yards, TOP 00:48		Excellent drive using the players' skills.

		HOPKINS,D. kickoff 70 yards to the ST0, Graham, T. return 22 yards to the ST22 (ABRAM,C.;STEVENS,T.).		Toshmon Stevens and Chad Abram get off blocks quite well.

1-10	St22	Washington, J. rush over left guard for 3 yards to the ST25 (BRADHAM,N.), clock 08:28.		Dawkins loses his footing here and gets driven to the ground. And 3 yards is all NCSU can get.
2-7	St25	Creecy, T. rush over left tackle for 4 yards to the ST29 (JOYNER,L.), clock 07:52.		NCSU catches FSU in a blitz. FSU is misaligned and Vince Williams needs to be a gap closer to the strong side.
3-3	St29	Glennon, M. sideline pass complete to Palmer, T. for 4 yards to the ST33, 1ST DOWN ST (HARRIS,M.), clock 07:19.		Quick out, good throw in rhythm. Pretty tough to stop.
1-10	St33	Creecy, T. rush up middle for 2 yards to the ST35 (WERNER,B.;WILLIAMS,V.), clock 06:38.		Anthony McCloud does an excellent job handling the double v. inside zone. Vince Williams nice cleanup. Bjoern Werner too.
2-8	St35	Glennon, M. deep pass incomplete to Howard, S., clock 06:08.		Very tight coverage by Mike Harris along the sideline v. the back shoulder throw. Not a great throw.
3-8	St35	Glennon, M. crossing pass incomplete to Smith, J., clock 06:04. Injured player for FSU is #31-Brooks.		FSU comes on the blitz w/ Christian Jones. NCSU throw into ok but not great coverage. Dropped. Glennon moves well in the pocket.
		Drive: 6 plays, 13 yards, TOP 02:45		Not as good of a defensive series, but you won't catch me complaining about it.

4-8	St35	Baumann, W. punt 35 yards to the FS30, fair cch by REID,G..		Scared of Greg Reid.

1-10	Fs30	MANUEL,E screen pass complete to THOMAS,J. for 6 yards to the FS36 (Green, D.), clock 05:36.	11 gun	Swing screen to Jermaine Thomas. Decent block by Jarred Haggins. EJ needs to get this ball out quicker.
2-4	Fs36	MANUEL,E screen pass incomplete to FREEMAN,D., dropped pass, clock 05:12.	20 gun pony	play action screen. Played very well by NCSU and even if Freeman doesn't drop it, it's not going anywhere.
3-4	Fs36	MANUEL,E sideline pass complete to SHAW,K. for 4 yards to the FS40, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds, clock 05:07.	10 gun	Quick out to Kenny Shaw, thrown in rhythm, excellent route by Shaw to the sticks.
1-10	Fs40	THOMAS,J. rush option right for 3 yards to the FS43, out-of-bounds (Cole, A.), clock 04:42.	21 I	Option, FSU doesn't get this blocked well because of the NCSU blitz.
2-7	Fs43	PENALTY FS false start (J,FAHRENKRUG) 5 yards to the FS38, clock 04:12.		Ref says this was on Stork.
2-12	Fs38	MANUEL,E crossing pass complete to THOMAS,J. for 13 yards to the ST49, 1ST DOWN FS (Wolff, E.), clock 04:00.	21 gun	Angle route to Jermaine Thomas. Well blocked, well ran, well thrown. Finding ways to get the ball to the middle of the field.
1-10	St49	MANUEL,E deep in pass complete to O'LEARY,N. for 25 yards to the ST24, 1ST DOWN FS (Wilson, C.), clock 03:30.	21 gun	Play action, E.J. Manuel hits Nick O'Leary on the deep in cut.
1-10	St24	MANUEL,E rush right for loss of 2 yards to the ST26 (Norman, A.), clock 02:44.	10 gun trips field	Called QB draw. Manuel needs to stay outside. FSU blocked it to the outside. Mental error on EJ.
2-12	St26	THOMAS,J. rush right for 1 yard to the ST25 (Norman, A.), clock 02:16.	10 gun	Stretch to the boundary w/ end around motion. Bobby Hart does not seal the linebacker.
3-11	St25	MANUEL,E middle pass incomplete to GREEN,C., clock 01:42.	11 gun	Protection is good, EJ rushes a throw to Christian Green. Nick O'Leary ran the wrong route and Fisher was angry. Would have been open if he ran the correct route.
4-11	St25	HOPKINS,D. field goal tempt from 43 GOOD, clock 01:37.
		Florida Ste 10, NC Ste 0
		Drive: 10 plays, 45 yards, TOP 04:20		Several mental errors on the drive. Not going to get it done.

		HOPKINS,D. kickoff 70 yards to the ST0, touchback.		Crushed this one.

1-10	St20	Glennon, M. rush quarterback scramble for 3 yards to the ST23 (MCALLISTER,D.), clock 01:19.		Guys getting out of their gaps trying for the sack. That's somewhat OK with an immobile QB back there.
2-7	St23	Creecy, T. rush over left guard for 8 yards to the ST31, 1ST DOWN ST (BRADHAM,N.;SMITH,T.), clock 00:52.		FSU is not lined up correctly, IMO. Just doesn't make sense. NG and DT need to be shifted at least a half gap to the strong side. Blocks for NCSU were too easy.
1-10	St31	Glennon, M. middle pass complete to Bryan, G. for 4 yards to the ST35 (JONES,C.;SMITH,T.).		Good throw into tight coverage. Can't cover everything.

		2nd quarter
2-6	St35	Creecy, T. rush left for no gain to the ST35 (MCCLOUD,A.), clock 14:43.		Great job of penetration by Brandon Jenkins and Anthony McCloud.
3-6	St35	Glennon, M. sideline pass complete to Bryan, G. for 7 yards to the ST42, 1ST DOWN ST, out-of-bounds (MOODY,N.), clock 14:11.		FSU brings the blitz, Brandon Jenkins undisciplined and goes for the wrong shoulder. Needs to go for the other shoulder to keep him in the pocket.
1-10	St42	Washington, J. rush over left guard for 2 yards to the ST44 (DAWKINS,E.;WERNER,B.), clock 13:38.		Nice run defense by Werner. Controlling the blocker.
2-8	St44	Glennon, M. wide receiver screen pass complete to Graham, T. for 17 yards to the FS39, 1ST DOWN ST (HARRIS,M.;WERNER,B.), clock 13:02.		Bubble screen, nice block on Mike Harris. Best play of the day for NCSU.
1-10	Fs39	Washington, J. rush right for 7 yards to the FS32 (RHODES,X.), clock 12:19.		I don't think FSU is lined up correctly here. Seems they are out-gapped from the start. Very strange.
2-3	Fs32	Glennon, M. sideline pass complete to Underwood, B. for 3 yards to the FS29, 1ST DOWN ST (REID,G.), clock 11:44.		Good tackle by Greg Reid. Very tough to stop. Sticks moving video!!!! What the heck are they doing? Cheating?

1-10	Fs29	Timeout NC Ste, clock 11:22.
1-10	Fs29	Washington, J. rush left for 1 yard to the FS28 (BRADHAM,N.;HICKS,D.), clock 11:06.		Good leverage on the outside run by Dan Hicks.
2-9	Fs28	Glennon, M. deep pass incomplete. Official Review: Call on field is an interception. Official Review: Call is overturned. Incomplete pass.		Excellent pressure off the backside by Jenkins and Joyner almost has an interception inbounds. Think Glennon tried to throw this away maybe? Weird play by Glennon.
3-9	Fs28	PENALTY ST false start (Mtes, R.) 5 yards to the FS33, clock 10:41.
3-14	Fs33	Glennon, M. crossing pass incomplete to Creecy, T. (BROOKS,T.), clock 10:37.		Tremendous coverage all around on this play. Literally every man was blanketed. Terrence Brooks excellent job to change direction on the angle route.
4-14	Fs33	Sade, N. field goal tempt from 51 MISSED - short, spot FS34, clock 10:32.
		Drive: 13 plays, 47 yards, TOP 06:05		By not allowing the big play, FSU made NCSU try to repeatedly execute. Not many teams can do that against a defense of this quality.

1-10	Fs34	MANUEL,E sideline pass complete to REED,B. for 8 yards to the FS42, out-of-bounds (Wilson, C.), clock 10:23.	00 gun	Don't like EJ's awareness here re: the blitz. Don't like the blitz pickup by the left side (LT needs to fan out and LG needs to take the end). Great job by Bert Reed to make people miss.
2-2	Fs42	MANUEL,E bubble screen pass complete to SMITH,R. for 9 yards to the ST49, 1ST DOWN FS (Amerson, D.), clock 10:00.	21 gun twins	Bubble to the field, well thrown by EJ. Bert Reed decent block. Excellent awareness to pic up an uncontested 9 yards.
1-10	St49	MANUEL,E sacked for loss of 4 yards to the FS47 (Sweezy, J.), clock 09:18.	21 gun twins	1. EJ should have checked to the run here, I think. 2. Poor job by Garrett Faircloth, doesn't handle the twist.

2-14	Fs47	MANUEL,E deep out pass complete to REED,B. for 18 yards to the ST35, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds (Johnson, D.), clock 08:48.	10 gun tight twins field	Smash combo, good route, excellent throw and anticipation by EJ. Better job handling the twist this time.
1-10	St35	MANUEL,E wide receiver screen pass complete to REED,B. for 14 yards to the ST21, 1ST DOWN FS (Bishop, B.;Slay, B.), clock 08:24.	10 gun	Quick bubble to the boundary. Throw for 4, Bert got the extra 10 with his legs. Easy yards v. favorable alignment. All mental. And good throw.
1-10	St21	MANUEL,E sacked for loss of 2 yards to the ST23 (Manning, T.), clock 07:48.	10 gun	Line protects to the right, so the free rusher is on EJ. He spins out of it, doesn't find anybody, but then doesn't throw it away. Dumb to take a two-yard loss here.

2-12	St23	THOMAS,J. rush option right for 15 yards to the ST8, 1ST DOWN FS (Cole, A.), clock 07:23.	11 pistol	Speed option to the field. Hart and Faircloth control the man, but neither climbs. O'Leary decent job to ride the rusher out. This is all Manuel, as he rides the hole, then sees Thomas is still in position (good job) for the pitch.
1-G	St08	PRYOR,L. rush over left tackle for 8 yards to the ST0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 06:57.	21 gun twins field	Stretch to Lonnie Pryor to the field. Zebrie and Fahrenkrug don't get off the double, but Stork has an excellent block. Rodney Smith high, high effort block to get the backer. Lonnie Pryor with some very tough running and N.C. State with some piss poor tackling. Good effort by Lonnie.

		HOPKINS,D. kick tempt good.
		Florida Ste 17, NC Ste 0
		Drive: 8 plays, 66 yards, TOP 03:40		FSU scored, but this drive was far from perfect.

		HOPKINS,D. kickoff 53 yards to the ST17, Haynes, D. return 12 yards to the ST29 (HARRIS,M.), PENALTY ST illegal block 10 yards to the ST19, 1st and 10, ST ball on ST19.		Just trying to keep it away from Harris?

1-10	St19	Washington, J. rush up middle for 5 yards to the ST24 (STEVENS,T.;BRADHAM,N.), clock 06:38.		Either Nigel Bradham or Tim Jernigan get out of their gap against this inside zone run.
2-5	St24	Washington, J. rush up middle for loss of 2 yards to the ST22 (JERNIGAN,T.), clock 06:01.		The burst Timmy Jernigan gets here off the ball is just insane. Warren Sapp?
3-7	St22	Glennon, M. sacked for loss of 3 yards to the ST19 (HARRIS,M.), clock 05:17.		Zone blitz, rush 5 cover with 6, bringing the nickelback from the field, makes Glennon pump the ball and gives the DB time to make the sack. Excellent play design and unselfish plays by Bjoern Werner and Nigel Bradham to occupy blockers and not try for the sack. They occupied the blocks while Harris came in unblocked.

		Drive: 3 plays, 0 yards, TOP 02:02

4-10	St19	Baumann, W. punt 24 yards to the ST43, downed. Ball was ruled to have hit an NC Ste player the 50, bounced back.		This punt hits FSU, but the refs said it was recovered by FSU. The NCSU player comes out of the pile with the ball. ACC Officiating, everybody! I guess they say it hit an NCSU player or that the FSU player was pushed into the ball?


1-10	St43	FREEMAN,D. rush up middle for loss of 2 yards to the ST45 (Cole, A.), PENALTY FS holding (HART,B.) 11 yards to the FS46, NO PLAY.	10 pistol	I don't see the holding on Hart, but the angle is tough. Play is stretch to the boundary and Hart is cut blocking. He may have grabbed the guy by the ankles.
1-21	Fs46	MANUEL,E pass incomplete (Kuhn, M.).	21 gun	Angle route, same play ran to Jermaine earlier. Manuel tries to hit Freeman and the NCSU dlineman gets his hands up.
2-21	Fs46	MANUEL,E deep in pass incomplete to SHAW,K., clock 04:18.	10 gun tight	Kenny Shaw is wide open on the deep cross and EJ makes a terrible throw. Wind was likely a factor here. Good scramble, poor throw.
3-21	Fs46	MANUEL,E sacked for loss of 1 yard to the FS45 (Kuhn, M.), clock 04:12.	10 gun tight	Faircloth with a total whiff on the blitzing backer from the 3-4 alignment. EJ scrambles to the sideline and takes an unnecessary hit. Dumb.
		Drive: 3 plays, minus 12 yards, TOP 01:06		Not the best of drives. NCSU did play better, however, and it wasn't all FSU mental errors.

4-22	Fs45	POWELL,S. punt 49 yards to the ST6, downed.		Not a great punt. NCSU should have caught the punt and not let it bounce.

1-10	St06	Glennon, M. middle pass complete to Purvis, T. for 3 yards to the ST9 (MOODY,N.), clock 03:24.		Very short crossing route to the backup tight end.
2-7	St09	Glennon, M. middle pass incomplete to Washington, J., QB hurry by WERNER,B., clock 03:02.		Tremendous rush by Jenkins and Werner, Glennon flips it wildly to the back.
3-7	St09	Glennon, M. crossing pass complete to Palmer, T. for 9 yards to the ST18, 1ST DOWN ST (HARRIS,M.), clock 02:55.		FSU in cover-2 and NCSU hits a crosser to the speedy slot guy. Very nice play by Glennon.
1-10	St18	Washington, J. rush up middle for 1 yard to the ST19 (MCCLOUD,A.;JONES,C.), clock 02:41.		Draw, good block shedding by Dawkins.
2-9	St19	Timeout Florida Ste, clock 02:41.		Jimbo being aggressive. Good job, coach.
2-9	St19	Glennon, M. sideline pass incomplete to Smith, J. (HARRIS,M.), clock 02:37.		Glennon rifles the 10-yard out to the boundary and Harris makes a great play to swat it.
3-9	St19	PENALTY ST false start (Washington, J.) 5 yards to the ST14, clock 02:37.		Surprisingly good crowd for FSU with parent's weekend.
3-14	St14	Glennon, M. crossing pass complete to Palmer, T. for 15 yards to the ST29, 1ST DOWN ST (HARRIS,M.), clock 02:30.		Either FSU is in Zone and Nick Moody messes up, or FSU is in man and Christian Jones gets picked. Can't really tell because I can't see the remaining coverage. I lean towards zone because I don’t think FSU would want Christian Jones manned up on a slot.
1-10	St29	Glennon, M. post pass intercepted by RHODES,X. the FS26, RHODES,X. return 0 yards to the FS26.		Really a bad decision by Glennon to throw at Xavier Rhodes and Lamarcus Joyner. Excellent job of those two to bracket the receiver step for step.

		Drive: 7 plays, 23 yards, TOP 01:28		Really not bad defense here, NCSU just hit some stuff.

1-10	Fs26	MANUEL,E screen pass complete to THOMAS,J. for 6 yards to the FS32, out-of-bounds (Cole, A.), clock 02:05.	10 gun	Swing screen to the field. Excellent block by Green
2-4	Fs32	MANUEL,E slant pass complete to SHAW,K. for 7 yards to the FS39, 1ST DOWN FS (Wolff, E.), clock 01:46.	10 gun	Double slants, good job by the offensive line to cut, Manuel double clutches but puts it on Shaw.
1-10	Fs39	MANUEL,E sideline pass complete to SHAW,K. for 6 yards to the FS45, out-of-bounds, clock 01:39.	10 gun	NCSU has 13 players on the field, not called. But EJ hits Shaw on the easy hitch.
2-4	Fs45	MANUEL,E sideline pass complete to SHAW,K. for 5 yards to the 50 yardline, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds, clock 01:35.	10 gun	Same play, good job on blitz pickup. Accurate ball by EJ. Very nice.
1-10	Fs50	MANUEL,E flag pass incomplete to REED,B., clock 01:31.	10 gun	EJ was late on the smash combo, think he realized he missed the window and threw it away.
2-10	Fs50	MANUEL,E screen pass complete to THOMAS,J. for 32 yards to the ST18, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds, clock 01:20.	10 gun	Beautiful screen, well times, Thomas with the decent fake block, Zebrie Sanders excellent block, accurate ball, Thomas good vision, Rodney Smith huge block.

1-10	St18	MANUEL,E wide receiver screen pass complete to REED,B. for loss of 2 yards to the ST20 (Smith, R.), clock 01:09. Injured player for FSU is #83-Reed.	10 gun	Bubble to the wrong side! Bert Reed gets crushed and gave EJ a piece of his mind for throwing it to the wrong side. No idea what EJ saw here.
2-12	St20	MANUEL,E post pass complete to SHAW,K. for 20 yards to the ST0, 1ST DOWN FS, TOUCHDOWN, clock 00:54.	10 gun	Good protection, EJ excellent throw, Shaw tremendous route to drive the safety, and it would have been wide, wide open if Christian Green doesn't run the incorrect route to unnecessarily draw the defender close to Shaw.

		HOPKINS,D. kick tempt good.
		Florida Ste 24, NC Ste 0
		Drive: 8 plays, 74 yards, TOP 01:28		Excellent drive. Sharp mentally and took care of business.

		HOPKINS,D. kickoff 60 yards to the ST10, Graham, T. return 13 yards to the ST23 (ABRAM,C.).		High kick, well done.

1-10	St23	Creecy, T. rush left for 2 yards to the ST25 (WILLIAMS,V.;HARRIS,M.), clock 00:32.		The entire defensive line is stout and Williams quickly fills.
2-8	St25	Washington, J. rush for 2 yards to the ST27 (HARRIS,M.).		Mike Harris reads this well.
3-6	St27	End of half, clock 00:00.
		Drive: 2 plays, 4 yards, TOP 00:48
		Florida Ste 24, NC Ste 0

Second Half

D-D	Yard	Play	Formation	Analysis
		Sade, N. kickoff 30 yards to the FS40, out-of-bounds, FS ball on FS40.		out of bounds? FSU will take it.

1-10	Fs40	MANUEL,E rush quarterback scramble for 5 yards to the FS45, out-of-bounds (Cole, A.), clock 14:51.	21 i twins field	Play action, EJ has someone deep but doesn't pull the trigger, Stork doesn't hold his block, EJ scrambles out of it. -1 to both Stork and EJ (for not throwing it)
2-5	Fs45	PRYOR,L. rush left for 10 yards to the ST45, 1ST DOWN FS (Wolff, E.), clock 14:24.	21 gun twins field	Very interesting misdirection read look that is simply a give to Lonnie Pryor. Excellent block by Fahrenkrug.
1-10	St45	MANUEL,E rush for loss of 8 yards to the FS47, fumble by MANUEL,E recovered by FS TEAM FS47, out-of-bounds.	21 i twins field	Swing screen to Freeman, has a huge run if thrown accurately, but throw is horrible. Footwork poor, way over his head
2-18	Fs47	MANUEL,E screen pass complete to FREEMAN,D. for 17 yards to the ST36 (Bishop, B.;Sweezy, J.), clock 13:32.	10 gun tight	RB screen, well executed. Nice blocks by Hart and Fahrenkrug. Good vision by Freeman
3-1	St36	MANUEL,E rush quarterback sneak for 2 yards to the ST34, 1ST DOWN FS (Kuhn, M.), clock 13:26.	21 i	QB sneak
1-10	St34	MANUEL,E throw away pass incomplete, QB hurry by Sweezy, J..	21 gun	Stork/Fahrenkrug do not handle a slant here well at all and turn a DT loose. Unacceptable. EJ throws it away.
2-10	St34	MANUEL,E slant pass incomplete to SMITH,R., clock 12:53.	10 gun trips field	Middle screen, beautifully drawn up and blocked. EJ Manuel poor throw. Needs to be thrown in stride. Still, Rodney must catch this
3-10	St34	MANUEL,E sideline pass complete to REED,B. for 11 yards to the ST23, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds (Smith, R.), clock 12:47.	11 gun	Excellent blitz pickup and EJ hits Bert Reed on the deep comeback. Nice blocking by the offensive line.
1-10	St23	PENALTY FS false start (HART,B.) 5 yards to the ST28, clock 12:27.	11 pistol trups field	two freshman false start.
1-15	St28	FREEMAN,D. rush left for loss of 1 yard to the ST29 (Manning, T.), clock 11:51.	11 pistol trups field	Stretch to the field. Stork gets held by the nose guard and cannot get to the backer who makes the tackle. Freeman should make him miss. Otherwise, well blocked.
2-16	St29	MANUEL,E crossing pass intercepted by Manning, T. the ST20, Manning, T. return 3 yards to the ST23 (REED,B.) (Wolff, E.).	11 gun	Manuel throws the in cut to Smith. Rodney needs to catch the football. Poor concentration on his part. Decent protection.

		Drive: 10 plays, 31 yards, TOP 03:37		Obviously, not a great drive. But some nice plays.

1-10	St23	Glennon, M. bubble screen pass complete to Graham, T. for 1 yard to the ST24 (JOYNER,L.), clock 10:58.		Tremendous play on the bubble by Lamarcus.
2-9	St24	Glennon, M. bubble screen pass complete to Graham, T. for 5 yards to the ST29 (JONES,C.), clock 10:26.		Great tight coverage by Christian Jones. He's quite quick.
3-4	St29	Glennon, M. crossing pass incomplete to Bryan, G., clock 10:08.		Tight man blitz, picked up well by NCSU, Glennon off target.
		Drive: 3 plays, 6 yards, TOP 01:27		Two good defensive plays and one NCSU error.

4-4	St29	Baumann, W. punt 62 yards to the FS9, REID,G. return 0 yards to the FS9.		Reid was just a cluster here. Didn't judge the wind. Be smarter.

1-10	Fs09	MANUEL,E sideline pass complete to DENT,G. for 7 yards to the FS16, out-of-bounds (Maddox, D.), clock 09:49.	11 gun	Sprint out, good ball to Dent.
2-3	Fs16	THOMAS,J. rush over left guard for 4 yards to the FS20, 1ST DOWN FS (Wolff, E.;Crawford, W.), clock 09:13.	11 ace	Inside zone, Thomas running hard. Excellent blocks by Stork, Sanders and Fahrenkrug.
1-10	Fs20	THOMAS,J. rush left for 4 yards to the FS24 (Wolff, E.), clock 08:42.	11 pistol	Inside zone, Thomas cuts it backside, good blocks Fahrenkrug and Sanders.
2-6	Fs24	MANUEL,E slant pass complete to SHAW,K. for 9 yards to the FS33, 1ST DOWN FS (Smith, R.), clock 08:15.	11 gun	Excellent protection, this is the Indianapolis colts play, good route and good throw on the quick in cut.
1-10	Fs33	THOMAS,J. rush over left guard for 4 yards to the FS37 (Crawford, W.), clock 07:36.	11 gun	tackle wrap, not well blocked, good move by Jermaine to get out of trouble.
2-6	Fs37	MANUEL,E sideline pass complete to SHAW,K. for 6 yards to the FS43, 1ST DOWN FS (Smith, R.), clock 07:08.	10 gun	Quick hitch to Shaw. He is running great routes.
1-10	Fs43	MANUEL,E screen pass complete to THOMAS,J. for loss of 4 yards to the FS39 (Maddox, D.), clock 06:42.	10 gun	Swing screen to Thomas. Horrible attempt by Jarred Haggins.
2-14	Fs39	MANUEL,E rush quarterback scramble for 21 yards to the ST40, 1ST DOWN FS, out-of-bounds (Cole, A.), clock 06:02.	10 gun	Motion to trips, fake the bubble screen, man is open deep on the backside, pressure breaks down, not handling the blitz well. Credit Manuel for getting out of it and scrambling, and Stork/Fahrenkrug for hustling downfield.

1-10	St40	THOMAS,J. rush over right end for 5 yards to the ST35 (Kuhn, M.), clock 05:20.	20 gun pony	Same zone blocked stretch with a fake to the other back. Nice block by Faircloth.
2-5	St35	THOMAS,J. rush right for 4 yards to the ST31 (Manning, T.), clock 04:53.	20 gun pony	Stretch, nice lead block
3-1	St31	FREEMAN,D. rush left for loss of 3 yards to the ST34 (Kuhn, M.), clock 04:15.	22 i	Terrible, awful, ridiculous effort by Jabaris Little. He is such a poor player. Why have him in there? Challenging the toughness? Awful block.
4-4	St34	HOPKINS,D. field goal tempt from 52 MISSED - short, spot ST34, clock 03:44.		Terrible decision by Jimbo. 52 yards into the wind? Kicking WITH the wind here would be tough, Kicking into it? Just dumb. Go for it. It's 4th-4 from the 39. This most cost FSU points.
		Drive: 12 plays, 57 yards, TOP 06:12		Not a bad drive at all, but the 4th down call irks me.

1-10	St34	Glennon, M. screen pass complete to Washington, J. for 9 yards to the ST43 (JONES,C.;SMITH,T.).		Nice screen pass on first down. FSU off the ball so quickly they don’t see the screen.
2-1	St43	Washington, J. rush over left tackle for 4 yards to the ST47, 1ST DOWN ST (JENKINS,B.), clock 03:18.		Jernigan guessed instead of reading the defender and created the gap.
1-10	St47	Glennon, M. wide receiver screen pass incomplete to Underwood, B., dropped pass, clock 02:52.		Bubble, NCSU had something here, dropped pass. Uncontested. Probably would have got 5.
2-10	St47	Glennon, M. crossing pass complete to Washington, J. for 6 yards to the FS47 (JONES,C.), clock 02:37.		RB option route, singled up on Nigel Bradham, easy for the back. Excellent close on the ball by Christian Jones.
3-4	Fs47	Glennon, M. middle pass complete to Graham, T. for 10 yards to the FS37, 1ST DOWN ST (BROOKS,T.), clock 01:57.		Total amazing for NCSU. Great rush by Jenkins and Jernigan. Jernigan hanging on him, throws wildly but lands right in the receiver's hands.
1-10	Fs37	Creecy, T. rush up middle for 3 yards to the FS34 (SMITH,T.), clock 01:29.		missed play from recording
2-7	Fs34	Glennon, M. sideline pass incomplete to Palmer, T., PENALTY FS pass interference (BRADHAM,N.) 11 yards to the FS23, 1ST DOWN ST, NO PLAY, clock 01:14.		FSU makes Glennon double pump, Glennon throws it away, somehow Bradham called for interference on a throwaway! Really a poor call. Nigel didn't do anything.
1-10	Fs23	Creecy, T. rush over left guard for 2 yards to the FS21 (JONES,C.;JERNIGAN,T.), clock 00:46.		Nice block shedding by Jones and Jernigan.
2-8	Fs21	TEAM sacked for loss of 9 yards to the FS30 (JONES,C.), fumble by TEAM recovered by FS JERNIGAN,T. FS30, JERNIGAN,T. for 12 yards to the FS42 (Graham, T.).		Bad snap is fumbled. Only right after the BS luck NCSU had on this drive.

		Drive: 8 plays, 36 yards, TOP 03:22		Really not a good defensive drive, but not bad either.

1-10	Fs42	THOMAS,J. rush over right guard for 5 yards to the FS47 (Sweezy, J.), clock 00:12.	21 gun	Stretch to the field, nice block by Fahrenkrug.
		Start of 4th quarter, clock 15:00.
2-5	Fs47	PRYOR,L. rush over left end for 3 yards to the 50 yardline (Cole, A.;Sweezy, J.), clock 14:41.	21 gun twins field	inside zone, Lonnie misreads this. Not poorly blocked.
3-2	Fs50	THOMAS,J. rush option right for 1 yard to the ST49 (Manning, T.), clock 14:11.	22 i	Speed option to the field, Jermaine Thomas makes the wrong cut. Had it inside.
		Drive: 3 plays, 9 yards, TOP 01:49		Cannot believe Fisher punter again here. Ridiculous to quit on a drive on 4th-1 at midfield. STOP GIVING UP THE FOOTBALL. DO NOT SURRENDER THE F'ING FOOTBALL.

4-1	St49	POWELL,S. punt 33 yards to the ST16, Graham, T. return 1 yards to the ST17 (STEVENS,T.).		Nice punt, better coverage.

1-10	St17	Creecy, T. rush over left end for 1 yard to the ST18 (RHODES,X.), clock 13:19.		Excellent play by Rhodes! FSU had a twist here and almost got caught tin a poor spot.
2-9	St18	Glennon, M. slant pass complete to Graham, T. for 6 yards to the ST24 (REID,G.;WILLIAMS,V.), clock 12:42.		Not sure what happened here. Don't want to say something bad about a player when I don't know the coverage.
3-3	St24	Glennon, M. sideline pass complete to Bryan, G. for 6 yards to the ST30, 1ST DOWN ST (MOODY,N.), clock 12:23.		Excellent throw, better catch. Moody had tight coverage.
1-10	St30	Glennon, M. middle pass complete to Underwood, B. for 3 yards to the ST33 (REID,G.), clock 11:59.		Nice tackle and close by Greg Reid.
2-7	St33	Glennon, M. slant pass complete to Howard, S. for 6 yards to the ST39 (MOODY,N.), clock 11:30.		FSU playing soft coverage here, nice tackle by Moody
3-1	St39	Creecy, T. rush over right end for 2 yards to the ST41, 1ST DOWN ST (JONES,C.), clock 11:14.		Dawkins is badly held.
1-10	St41	Glennon, M. deep pass incomplete to Palmer, T. (JOYNER,L.), QB hurry by MOODY,N., clock 10:46.		Werner held, Glennon scrambles, Joyner in position for an easy pick, badly interfered with, not called.
2-10	St41	Glennon, M. throw away pass incomplete, QB hurry by JONES,C..		Werner badly held again, great defensive line pressure, Glennon intentionally grounds the ball, not called.
3-10	St41	Timeout NC Ste, clock 10:38.
3-10	St41	Glennon, M. middle pass intercepted by WILLIAMS,V. the ST35, WILLIAMS,V. return 7 yards to the ST28 (Glennon, M.) (DAWKINS,E.).		FSU brings the zone blitz, Dawkins gets turned loose, tips the throw, Vince Williams intercepts. Thank you much.

		Drive: 9 plays, 24 yards, TOP 03:02

1-10	St28	FREEMAN,D. rush left for 5 yards to the ST23 (Norman, A.), clock 10:09.	21 gun twins field	Stretch, nice block Reliford.
2-5	St23	THOMAS,J. rush over right guard for 2 yards to the ST21 (Manning, T.;Maddox, D.), clock 09:35.	21 gun twins field	Thomas is impatient here on this lead draw
3-3	St21	MANUEL,E middle pass incomplete to O'LEARY,N. (Cole, A.), clock 09:00.	11 gun	Forces the ball to O'Leary. Bad read, Rodney Smith was open on the in cut.
4-3	St21	HOPKINS,D. field goal tempt from 39 GOOD, clock 08:56.		No need to kick a field goal here. GO FOR IT. 4th-3 from the 21 should be an easy go call.
		Florida Ste 27, NC Ste 0
		Drive: 4 plays, 7 yards, TOP 01:42		Poor drive.

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mmmm

Delicious knowledge. Appreciate the time and effort y’all put into this.

by paperjames on Nov 1, 2011 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs

Damn

So much for calling it a night early…

by TriNole83 on Nov 1, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions

So how did they compress the chains now?

by ttubasketball on Nov 1, 2011 9:39 PM EDT reply actions

IMO, it should have been the 1st down. The spot was a yard behind where the WR had two hands on the ball. Some ref went rogue and fixed it.

by Meehl on Nov 1, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions

maybe true but the receiver was walking backwards on his own before the defender got to him. judgment call either way, but the sticks moving is unacceptable

by stevib on Nov 1, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions

No, rewatch the replay...

The receiver doesn’t catch it clean and bobbles it. When he’s tackled with possession he’s short of the marker. Terrible ACC officiating, how are these guys employed?

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by Moojenowski on Nov 2, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions

Its for people like you that I typed out "where the WR had two hands on the ball" but I failed to have any effect

by Meehl on Nov 2, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions

You also said "In my opinion" so that had an effect that yours varies from mine.

In my opinion, I feel that he was short of the marker when he finally had possession; after he bobbled it, hit his helmet and then brought it in with two hands as he was corralled by the DB.

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by Moojenowski on Nov 2, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions

I believe he had possession of the catch at around 19 seconds based on video evidence.

by Meehl on Nov 2, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions

It was probably being held wrong at the yard line and they adjusted. The tight camera angle does not tell the whole story.

Football is my favorite show.

by coonhound on Nov 1, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions

This

by jimmygnole on Nov 1, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions

You are probably right

but my tinfoil hat clan disagrees

by SanDiegoSeminole on Nov 1, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions

They still didn't measure from the right place on the stick

They used the piece of paper from the corner of that flag like thing on the stick, they didn’t use the ACTUAL FREAKING STICK

"Kill a fly with an axe"

by SteadfastNole on Nov 2, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions

Having worked the chains (and cheated for the home team)before....I'm not buying that explanation.

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by DRusso97 on Nov 2, 2011 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions

Lonnie Pryor

that is all.

Stay Handsome.

by andyprocombat on Nov 1, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions

also

the videos are super effective.

Stay Handsome.

by andyprocombat on Nov 1, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

I'm glad to see Terrence Brooks playing more and playing well.

He could be very important in the secondary next season. He could be the be the best athlete on the team.

by Nole300 on Nov 1, 2011 9:59 PM EDT reply actions

He had one of the top 10 hits of the week on ESPN today.

by pb4957 on Nov 1, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Hopefully T Brooks fills in nicely once M Harris is done.

Regarding all seniors, I believe we will miss M Harris the most.

by fsu2wall on Nov 2, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Couldn't agree more.

I think Harris is our best all around corner, but, Brooks’ play lately has made me more comfortable with Harris leaving

by Nole300 on Nov 2, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions

My favorite part, the NC St drive close to the end of the half when Glennon got picked by XR

Drive: 7 plays, 23 yards, TOP 01:28 Really not bad defense here, NCSU just hit some stuff.

You know it’s a bad day when 3 YPP is characterized by “just hit some stuff.”

by stevib on Nov 1, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions

Lonnie's TD is one of the best highlights of the year.

Great work, guys.

Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 1, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs

I just wish Rodney Smith would concentrate more.

He had a hold of that pass for a whole .05 seconds and couldn’t survive a helmet shot to the ball. Inexcusable.

Football is my favorite show.

by coonhound on Nov 1, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions

Meh. I thought it was a really good hit by the NCSU player.

Probably retribution for that crack-back block Rodney smoked somebody with.

by FSUjab on Nov 1, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions

No, that was on Rodney, it barely even knocked him down.

Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.

by onebarrelrum on Nov 1, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Agreed, EJ's block against Maryland was better

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions

I was talking about Rodney not catching the ball.

Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.

by onebarrelrum on Nov 2, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions

the best part of this block

is number 25 for nc state. funny to ponder what is going through his mind when he sees his buddy get crushed. You can see he gets temporarily distracted (watches) when rodney crushes the backer.

by origiNOLEone on Nov 2, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions

I didn't notice that before

Good catch

by NationWideNole on Nov 2, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions

Number 25 is thinking

Formerly known as Florida State Jay.

by Jamil Dawson on Nov 2, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Good catch. You can see his head turn.

by FSUjab on Nov 2, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Not a crushing blow, but well-timed.

by FSUjab on Nov 2, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions

Helmet to the ball?

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions

Sounds like a spinal injury

waiting to happen…..at least if we’re talking the crown.

by law74 on Nov 2, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions

Moody looked better than Parks on most plays.

I see him and Brooks splitting more time. Williams looked better and the defense as a whole is improving, which is scarry good for the Noles.

EJ’s throws to the rb and bubbles are weak!!!!! He did it several times this game and it cost huge chunks of yardage. He also double clutches a bit too much still. He is looking better , don’t get me wrong but the throws were glaring problems and a big part of our O.

by pb4957 on Nov 1, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions

Thought bubbles and dump offs to RBs were fine, don't want

to throw bullets to RBs, in fact 8 dropped one because EJ threw a rocket to him 8 yards away. There were a couple glaring throws that were just bad. The backwards pass where it either got away from him or the wind caught it, and there was another….I think behind JT and he got blown up in the backfield. Neither of those plays (bad, bad plays) were because he lacked arm strength. The bubble that did work so well were because he got them out quickly and in front of the WRs.

Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.

by onebarrelrum on Nov 1, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Working on the NC State Data,

FSU ran some absolutely crazy stuff. FSU has realized the value of the secondary players. FSU through the 3rd quarter has ran 3-2, 3-3, 4-3, 3-4, 4-2, 4-1. Crazy though that Bradham is on the field for every single down. Just to give a look in one of those formations, the 4-1 comprised of Werner, TJ, Erving, Jenkins, Bradham, Terrance Brooks, Rhodes, Harris, Reid, Parks, and Joyner. Crazy. Brooks was on the field in a lot of passing downs. He’s the real deal.

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by onebarrelrum on Nov 1, 2011 11:05 PM EDT reply actions

Only explanation I can come up with (besides simple seniority) is that he knows the defense/calls better than the rest or the coaches consider him their best tackler.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Nov 2, 2011 8:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

he is the teams leading tackler this season and the last two seasons as well.

by TriNole83 on Nov 2, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Nigel's played pretty well the last few weeks

Not sure what it is about him, but he seems to start every year slowly and gets better toward the end.

Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 2, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions

Absolute;y

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree, when I say it is crazy, I mean would think they would opt to have Telvin or Jones

in for the passing downs instead of Bradham.

Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.

by onebarrelrum on Nov 2, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions

Wakulla county boys

are just that way. You only need ask my wife.

by law74 on Nov 2, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Here's a question I've had for a while

Lets see if I can articulate it well.

A couple plays after the “chain gang fiasco”, Bud writes in reference to our D,

By not allowing the big play, FSU made NCSU try to repeatedly execute. Not many teams can do that against a defense of this quality.

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Stoops tends to use a bunch of zone, tries to keep everything in front of his D and relies on stopping the big play. You know, bend but don’t break and tighten up in the red zone. In other words, Stoop’s defense wants to force an offense to have to methodically march down the field through a level of execution and a high level of consistency. This is very hard, especially at the college level.

My question is, doesn’t Jimbo expect this from his own offense? Many categorize Jimbo’s offense as "dink and dunk". I agree. I see a lot of screens, underneath routes, throws to the backs, etc.. You know, control the clock and methodically march down the field taking what the defense gives you. This philosophy behind Fisher’s offensive system can be extremely effective. It can totally control a game. And when paired with a dominate defense, is devastating (see Jimbo’s LSU years). But it also requires, not only a level of execution, but also a high level of consistency. Sound familiar? Maybe this is why Jimbo’s offense sometimes bogs down (or at least appears to bog down)? Is Jimbo asking his own offense to do exactly what he knows is very difficult to expect? Is he asking too much from 18 to 22 year olds?

Curious what you guys think?

by jimmygnole on Nov 1, 2011 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

*Is Jimbo asking his own offense to do exactly what he knows is very difficult to accomplish?

by jimmygnole on Nov 1, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe the theory is, if you're used to doing what you have to do against an elite defense, every game...

you’ll perform better on the big stage?

by arrdub on Nov 1, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions

I worry about this too. In defense of Jimbo, we do seem to be a bit more explosive this season than in prior years and I am happy with the offense. Still, I see a lot of supposedly simple spread offenses putting up insane numbers and wonder if we are being unnecessarily complex.

Will our pro style attack reap benefits with recruits who want to build a resume for the NFL? One would hope, but the spread doesn’t seem to have scared Sammy Watkins.

by 38Noles on Nov 2, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions

That's not really what I'm talking about

I see some of you on TN write that his system might be too difficult, others say it is too simple (thanks Tom Wort). It’s not about complexity to me. It’s the “dink and dunk” of his offense that I’m questioning. The always “taking what they give you” mentality. I think opposing defenses approach Jimbo by giving up the short stuff and he takes it. Which is great in theory but sometimes plays right into the hands of the defense, especially really good ones.

I’m just curious if this is why so many question Jimbo’s offense and why it gives the impression of being erratic or inconsistent, even though the numbers tell us differently? Is it a “bend you but don’t break you” offense?

by jimmygnole on Nov 2, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions

dink and dunk?

Take what the opponent gives you? Seems like the opponents are giving us some long plays then. On plays of 20+ yards, FSU is #21 against FSB competition with 39. Clemson is tops in the conference with 46. G Tech has 45, N Car has 43 and then FSU.
If Clemson is considered a “high flying” circus act and we only have 7 less “20+ yard plays” through 8 games does that make us “dink and dunk”?

by law74 on Nov 2, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions

Bunch of Techs came against crappy teams too.

Had a bunch against Kansas.

Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.

by onebarrelrum on Nov 2, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm looking at Jimbo's entire resume

I agree that we’ve made some big plays this year, but overall, yes my untrained eye looks at Jimbo’s offense this way. I even saw some LSU fans say he was too conservative.

Again, I could be wrong, that’s why I brought it up. I want to know what everyone thinks.

by jimmygnole on Nov 2, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

Replying to mark this for reply later

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions

Great

I’d like to hear your thoughts.

by jimmygnole on Nov 2, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions

I think "dink and dunk" is a mischaracterization of Jimbo's offense.

A better label is “take what the defense gives you” type of offense.

by FSUjab on Nov 2, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think he asks that. I think with Ponder, he had a really special player who could do that. And it was super effective, producing two of the best in the country in back-to-back years.

With EJ, we’ve seen FSU be very, very explosive and not at all methodical.

I’ve seen some of the install tapes they use to put in their offense. I do not think it is too much.

I also think Clemson’s offense is overrated

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 3, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions

Agree about FSU.

As for Clemson, I’d say their offense is quite good, but really only because of a couple players. Not necessarily because of scheme or “team”…if that makes any sense.

Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 3, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Watkins is the obvious one,

but without Allen chewing up 3rd downs our game would have looked more than a bit different. Will be glad to see him out of the picture next year.

by arrdub on Nov 3, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions

Serious questions about their run game next year

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 3, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions

Is Ellington back?

Or just because of the OL? They haven’t really blown people off the ball THIS year.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Nov 3, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions

OL and Allen

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 3, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions

Just pisses me off even more that,

if we had been healthy and able to humble them early in the season, they might have had a much tougher road recruiting talent to build back up. Had a chance to send them to 2nd or 3rd tier for a long while.

by arrdub on Nov 3, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions

I guess

Instead of seeing EJ (and the explosive plays) as an outlier of his system, I should look at it as more of an adjustment from Ponder.

by jimmygnole on Nov 3, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions

The prospect of adding Casher, Fowler, Shanks, Goldman AND MEJ to this line really gets me jazzed.

That rotation has the potential to ruin some people’s lives.

Get on board Goldman.

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by Moojenowski on Nov 2, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions

very near future

your so right ski , if you want to be with a winner hop aboard, this team is on its way.

by jazzpoppy on Nov 2, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions

I doubt

MEJ will stay committed.

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by Matt Champion on Nov 2, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions

Seems that a lot of people are much more confident that he's feeling better about his status as a Nole after his recent visit.

I hope they’re right, he’s a game changer.

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by Moojenowski on Nov 2, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions

I hope you are right

I want MEJ to come here, he is that special defensive end that can top out at 280 lbs. without losing speed or quickness.Fowler looks like he could decommit, but the team that is chasing him(UF) isn’t doing too well right now. We take care of business in the Swamp, there’s a very low chance Fowler could decommit.

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by Matt Champion on Nov 2, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions

mej

if he thinks he can make a difference, he will be here. with him or without him ej goes to nc next year

by jazzpoppy on Nov 2, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions

Fowler is far more likely to decommit than MEJ

by najabaas on Nov 2, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions

far more might be a bit of an exaggeration

by najabaas on Nov 2, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions

Well MEj, Casher and Fowler are all playing in the UA All American game together. Hope they BRO UP.

Gimme some sugar, baby.

by Tubby Sweetbundle on Nov 2, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Exactly

and hopefully 0-ctober shows that the gators are not better. They don’t even look like they work on fundamentals.

by najabaas on Nov 2, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Is there any point

in sending video to the ACC? I would like to think that eventually all the holding that happens to our DLine would be called, but Im getting jaded about the whole thing. Its not even mild holding, some of these missed calls are egregious. The worst part is, I think it creates a valid platform for people who always like to blame the officiating. Some of this nonsense is maddening.

"However, I say, let UM burn." -onebarrelrum

by Miaminole on Nov 2, 2011 1:36 AM EDT reply actions

On the Xavier Rhodes INT clip above

Pay attention to Joyner during the Kanell telestrator replay. He accelerates to catch up with receiver from a seemingly impossible disadvantage. Wow.

by The K-Man on Nov 2, 2011 2:52 AM EDT reply actions

Saw the same thing

can’t teach speed and his speed and athleticism make up for any mistakes he may make

by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 2, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions

I do wish we could

edit down the clip with Jack Nicklaus so I wouldn’t have to hear his ignorance spewed again. I realize you’re a legend my man, but you’re not a FOOTBALL legend. Let the coaches do their job and stop bad mouthing them on national TV. I get it, you love your grandson, but seriously. . . Oh, and by the way, these recaps are fantastic and i know they take hours and hours of work. It’s appreciated.

by ncarolinanole on Nov 2, 2011 8:03 AM EDT reply actions

Someone needs to tell him

you son ran the wrong routes and missed some blocks. If our Seniors weren’t so atrocious he wouldn;t see the field until Sophmore year! Hard offense to learn Jack. Your grandson will be just fine. He’s a freshman for God’s sake

by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 2, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions

On the Shaw TD video

Who the heck is Milton Hall? Way to go worldwide leader.

by TriNole83 on Nov 2, 2011 8:52 AM EDT reply actions

Walk on

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions

well he got credited with the td and 20yd reception according to the game caption

by TriNole83 on Nov 2, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions

Noticed that too.

Said he had 5 receptions for 42 yards and a TD, haha.

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by FTSNole on Nov 2, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks for all the work you put into this.

It’s articles like these that really make this site unique. Without a doubt the best FSU site on the web. Your work is appreciated!

by Lpfsu511 on Nov 2, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions

Rodney gets my game ball for some of the blocks

and not just the decleater on the Thomas screen pass. At the goal line and down field. Unselfish play.

by NicktheNole on Nov 2, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions

Is Moody Playing well?

So glad I dont have to get angry at Parks every week now with Moody and Brooks playing more……………

And when I rewatched the game gotta give Brooks, Dawkins, and Jones credit they did alot out there….wanna see Vince do some more from the Mike position but still great defensive effort.

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by phi*tau-nole on Nov 2, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions

I have to disagree with the critisim on punting up 24 points on 4-1 at mid field

the game is in hand – why take a risk and create momentum for the other team – punting the ball is an acceptable call

Mr. Elliot: I believe you are familiar with the business judgmemt rule.

by 93noleman on Nov 2, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions

Covered this earlier in the week

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by Bud Elliott on Nov 2, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Swing Screens

EJ needs to take a little touch off these balls. The ball needs to lead the screener up field – in stride. Bud pointed out one in this film review that had too much loft on it and I noticed it too during live action. Its happened a handful of other times in the last handful of games. If he doesnt get those out faster, a fast OLB is going to yoink one of those and return it for 6.

by BostonNole on Nov 2, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions