How good are the Miami Hurricanes now?
by Bud Elliott on Nov 10, 2011 8:41 PM EST
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PrintJust how good are these Miami Hurricanes?
To answer that, I turned to the FootballOutsiders' F/+ system -- the only system to adjust for competition level, pace, and garbage time.
| Team | Overall/Rk | Offense/Rk | Defense/Rk | |||
| Oklahoma | +27.4% | 5 | +14.3% | 9 | +13.2% | 6 |
| Florida State | +18.7% | 10 | +7.9% | 29 | +10.8% | 12 |
| Clemson | +14.1% | 19 | +15.9% | 4 | -1.7% | 69 |
| Miami | +10.4% | 31 | +16.4% | 2 | -6.0% | 92 |
| Wake Forest | +1.7% | 53 | +4.7% | 40 | -3.0% | 75 |
| N.C. State | -2.5% | 68 | -0.6% | 61 | -1.9% | 70 |
| Duke | -6.4% | 76 | -1.4% | 68 | -5.0% | 87 |
| Maryland | -7.0% | 77 | -6.1% | 87 | -0.9% | 64 |
| Boston College | -8.3% | 83 | -8.5% | 97 | +0.2% | 60 |
| UL-Monroe | -10.3% | 89 | -7.0% | 89 | -3.3% | 77 |
But remember, these are super accurate ratings of a team's season to date, not necessarily how good a team is right now.
Do I think Miami is a better team than these numbers indicate? Yes, I do. Why?
The main reason is that Miami simply has not had all its players this year due to the suspension. Their absence really hurt Miami in several key losses; most notably against the Maryland Terrapins -- a bad football team. The absence was felt not only because of the lack of production, but also because Miami didn't know which players would be suspended until shortly before the season started! Can you say lack of cohesion? As those players got back, the team started to really, really improve.
And remember, we expected this to be a good Miami team. In fact, we said this would be Miami's last realistic shot to beat the 'Noles for a while, given Miami is one of, if not the oldest team in the ACC (21 seniors, etc) and the fact that Miami is not replacing the talented older players with talented recruits (19 of Miami's 25 commitments are rated as 3-stars or less).
Is Miami's offense really the second best in the country? Perhaps. With an excellent offensive line, the best running back since C.J. Spiller, two NFL wideouts, and Jacory Harris legitimately playing better, this is a very good group. Plus, FSU fans should be familiar with this scenario from 2009: a defense that consistently puts the offense in really bad spots. To date, Miami has faced the third hardest schedule of defenses in the country. Another reason you might not realize this? Pace. Miami plays very, very slow in order to protect the defense. But on a per-possession basis, they are very very good.
So yes, this is a legitimately excellent offense. Now how about that defense? It has been the 92nd worst defense in the country, but is it today the 92nd worst a team could run out on the field? Highly doubtful. I don't honestly believe Miami's defense is worse than Duke's defense, but it has played worse over the course of the entire season.
It's important to remember that almost all of Miami's injuries and suspensions have come on the defensive side of the ball. Miami's defense was terrible at Maryland, v. Kansas state and at Virginia Tech earlier in the season. After getting some of those players back, the defense has improved some.
But that still doesn't make this a good defense. Miami's corners are not very good. They have issues in the linebacking corps (mostly injury related) and some issues on the defensive line. Is this the worst defense FSU will face this year? No, but it's not much better than FSU's non-Oklahoma opponents to date.
That's my take on what FSU is facing. More to come tomorrow in the preview, obviously.
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Great observation again Bud
Miami IS good. This will not be a run away game like many believe (or hope for) They have two efficient WR’s, a great back, and a tremendous (and healthy) O-Line. It’s gonna be a great close game, but defense and special teams favors the Noles. I think they’ll score much higher than what’s been afforded to our last several opponents. I’ll go somewhere around 34-27 FSU
I am seriously left scratching my head at everyone who thinks this is going to be an easy game.
Not sure why they think that. The fact that they will suck NEXT year doesn’t mean they aren’t good this year. They have done enough short-handed and otherwise to prove that they are a legit threat.
I still predict a win, but still…
Sounds eerily similar to...
what I’ve been trying to get across to some people…. Miami has a very good offensive line and our D-line is going to face it’s biggest test of the year. It’s ironic that Miami has faced some pretty good defenses leading up to us and FSU has faced some very good offenses leading up to them. This could make for a very competitive game and I do believe that we will definitely be able to tell that this isn’t the same Miami from last year.
But I do think our overall depth and talent will eventually win out and FSU wins by double-digits…
You're absolutely right
I forgot to mention above the importance of depth, They’re almost drowning in the kiddy pool side of that.
But how much depth do you need if nobody gets hurt?
That’s been Miami’s saving grace. They’re had incredible injury luck this year.
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Miami has managed to stay healthy...
on the offensive side of the ball but all of their losses have come from the defense. They lost a lot of depth on the D-line plus they loss a starting linebacker in Buchanon and Futch may not play either due to shoulder injury. Their defense is pretty much shot and playing on fumes at this point…
They are going to need depth on defense because it will be easy to wear-out their D-line and Front-7. They are playing DE’s at DT just to fill the void. They are going to try to keep their defense off the field, for as much of the game as possible by trying to run on us so that will be the key component in this match-up. If we can keep them in quick drives that results in quick three-and-outs, then we will win this game handedly. But it can be a battle if they are able to move the LOS and be productive in the run game…
I think Miami could be productive early on and we may see a close game; but eventually talent and overall depth will be too much for them and FSU ends up with a comfortable margin of victory…
Agree with you, but....
Same culd be said for our season right now. Our #10 F/+ rating includes 8 quarters of no EJ, and several games with the WR and secondary pretty banged up. All of that is not the case for the team FSU will field on Saturday.
Also, we we have a higher momentum than Miami based on Bill C.'s momentum rankings.
Miami is rated 30th in momentum, so its not like they are playing appreciably better now than they were earlier in the season. We are rated 8th so we are definitely playing a lot better now than earlier in the season.
You're Right...
This is also why I feel that we are going to end up winning by doubledigits. We hit our wall pretty early in the season, due to injuries but we have since hit our stride and have been picking up a lot of momentum. We know see what this team is capable of being when we have a healthy EJ and we are playing like a true Top-10 team.
Miami has a top offense but they are not a Championship Caliber team because they don’t have a defense to support them. So our depth and overall talent should be too much and we should see a comfortable win. But still a competitive game…
I agree, all this UM is going to score 4 and 5 TD's on our D is comical to say the least. I can see a 28-13 score or something close.
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Seeing as they've played the third hardest schedule of defenses to date..
And have the number 2 offense in the land, I find it far from comical.
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It's the hard defenses that gives them the 2nd ranked offense in all the land.
Strength of opponents factored in.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
True, but they have performed well against them.
I just think the idea that it’s “comical” that UM could score 4 TDs is insane.
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Miami could score 4 TD's on us...
Clemson’s defense is worst than Miami’s and they score 5 TD’s on us (although we are a completely different team now) I predicted the final score could be 42-28 so it could very well happen if their O-line is as good as advertised.
But if they can score 4 TD’s on us; we can score 7 or 8 TD’s on them. Only FSU’s offense can keep FSU from scoring in this game. That’s why the most important match-up will be between FSU’s defense and Miami’s offense….
Absolutely. I assume people know about FSU though if they follow this site.
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Interesting talking to Cane fans
They seem to think that losing Ray Ray wont be a big deal, but that their corners and LBs have stunk (outside of Spence) for most of the year.
FSU DL vs Miami OL I think is the matchup of the game though.
Look forward to the previews
Add that Futch is now officially out for the game.
Armstrong and Futch leave big holes in 2 of the 3 levels of there defense. NOLES should have some real success against this Cane D.
by ChiefOceola on Nov 10, 2011 9:58 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
bud youre wrong
You keep saying lamar miller is the best back in the acc since spiller but David Wilson is easily better having watched both extensively
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by camfsu04e on Nov 10, 2011 10:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'd take Miller over Wilson with no hesitation.
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Hahahahahahahahahaaaaa......good one.
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Wilson is no Lamar Miller if you ask me. Lamar Miller is a complete back for sure. Wilson is good but he uses and depends more on his speed and natural athleticism more than being a pure running back.
by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 11, 2011 6:46 AM EST up reply actions
Miller is better and more complete...
Lamar is bigger and faster.. The Rumor Mill has it that he was running a 4.3 in high school and is easily in the 4.2’s now… I don’t know how true that is but he’s very fast to be a big back…
We are not going to stop Miller,
that said, we need to make him strike out a lot in between home runs. This will enable us to get UM’s offense off the field.
by GoNoles2011 on Nov 11, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Until I see the footage...NOBODY runs a 4.2.
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If you take Lamar Miller off of this team, Duke would beat them handily.
This has to be the most OVERrated Miami team we’ve played in years with the temperament regarding this game. They’re missing so many players that matter. Taking EVERY FO ranking into account,
S&P+ – Miami = 42
FEI – Miami = 20
F/+ – Miami = 31
I’m not going to do the math, but that seems to be around 30, so they’re not too shabby, huh?
Defensively:
S&P+ 80
FEI 93
F/+ 92
You don’t beat Jimbo Fisher coached offenses with defenses like that without substantial luck (and yes, Wake DOES have a better defense this year than Miami, but that is NOT why we lost that game). And no, I 100% do not buy the argument that the unit will gain any more cohesion going forward, with all of these players missing.
This should not be a competitive football game and I hate that a rash of wide lefts and rights gives us respect for this awful team in the same way that people think we suck because of the lost decade.
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by Sem1nole on Nov 10, 2011 10:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
F/+ is a combo of FEI and S&P+, so your analysis is unneeded.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 10, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
But nice troll effort
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 10, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Troll?
That’s funny. Honestly, that’s hilarious. I apologize for my lack of information regarding that system of metrics, but I’m not even sure how that changes anything… that rankings take the form of F/+… does that not give them a ranking of 92nd best defensively int he nation?
Serious question, have you watched multiple Miami games this season? Eyeball test this team, please. They’re not a good football team. They play the way they do on offense to protect a defense that, now, missing MULTIPLE major contributors on that side of the ball, will be even worse. Credit to them for protecting their weaknesses. There is no reason we should not be able to consistently move the football. Their offense has yet to face a defensive line that even compares remotely to ours (albeit they have a good line on offense).
I can make you this argument with either logic or perception and either will produce the same result. Your pick.
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by Sem1nole on Nov 10, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't you eyeball test me, son.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 10, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're an ass.
You won’t find any more objective analysis on this team then here. Why are you upset?
I'm an ass because my perception and analysis are different?
And I’m upset because I had a horrible day. Clearly that is coming off in my posts and I’m sorry. But that does not change my analysis. Miami is not good because they have been good before. This is an extremely favorable matchup IMO.
"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher
by Sem1nole on Nov 10, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you for stating that
No worries man, bad days suck, but tact is always important on TN among TN faithful. I think what everyone means is that come Saturday, one way or another, we’ll all be enjoying a W hopefully. By 20 points or 3, doesnt matter.
Hope tomorrow is better. Sorry for calling you a troll. I too think FSU will win, but I don’t think you have a clue in this case.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 10, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think Sem1nole and Bud were getting at the same conclusion...
Yes Miami’s offense is good and yes their defense is horrible… I do agree that we should beat this team because Miami’s defense is horrible. They have DE’s playing DT. They have lost a lot of depth at linebacker and we know the secondary issues. They have done a great job playing keep away allowing their Defense to stay off the field for as much as possible.
But eventually the more complete team (FSU) should have a comfortable win because everytime our offense takes the field; we should score. Miami may put up a tough fight but I don’t see their offense scoring every time they have the ball on us. We have one of the best defenses in the nation. And a great defense always trumps a great offense…
I would be interested to see
How many of Miami’s TD drives involved plays of 30+ yards this season. When I watch them, they don’t look very good on offense, but then Lamar Miller gets a crease and takes it 40 yards for a TD or Jacory punts it downfield and Streeter goes up and gets it for a 45 yard gain. The rest of their drives look like dog squeeze. They don’t methodically march the ball downfield like the Noles do. They are completely boom or bust on offense and that simply will not work against good teams.
I’m thinking this is what Sem1nole was trying to illustrate above because I’ve seen him post something similar before. And to me, that’s why I agree with him, they simply don’t pass the eye test. They run a Rainbow Offense that looks like Jeff Bowden is calling plays.
by NoleOrNever on Nov 11, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
This is extremely obvious
when watching their games this year. Limit the big play and they’re very easy to beat. Give up big plays and you’ve got a dog fight on your hands.
Thanks for the stats. That’s what my eyes have been telling me all year long! Nice to know it’s actually true.
yea but their big plays have come from...
the fact that they have been so good running the ball, so teams are forced to respect that and that’s what leaves the big plays open. If we can’t stop the running game then we will be giving up a few big plays ourselves… Stopping the run game is going to be essential in determining the amount of big plays we give up or not…
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 10, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
A little disappointing this year, no?
Coples not very explosive at DE and Paige-Moss not playing as well as last year, right?
Eh, they’ve looked good when I watched them. Coples might be a bit down
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 10, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
I think UNC compares but they still aren't in FSU's league....
They have some talent on the d-line and if you look at the depth chart you will see that they have a very big Defensive front but I’d take Werner and Jenkins over Coples and Moss… The UNC defense as a whole has a lot of up and down moments. And their were a few games in which you can visually see Coples taking plays off… Especially against Ga Tech…
Coples doesn’t have the motor that Werner has but he is still a beast and probably a 1st rounder… Like I’ve said however; it’s funny that Miami has played some good defensive fronts and we’ve played some offensive fronts w/ dynamic offenses..
UNC's DL struggles
Becuase their LBs are average at best and their secondary is terrible. If UNC had the FSU’s secondary, their DL would look like FSU’s DL.
by NoleOrNever on Nov 11, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Like how Vernon could easily destroy Bobby Hart? Like how Darius Smith will probably be way too much for Barron? Those matchups?
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 10, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Augh...
That would truly suck if Miami’s line did to us what Bjoern Werner did to Oklahoma’s starting freshman.
I do not enjoy considering that prospect.
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You're right about Darius Smith...
6’2 360 lbs is crazy big… We will definitely need EJ and Freeman to have a great day running the ball so we can get these guys tired. They don’t have depth so that’s the issue I’ll be looking for Jimbo to take advantage of… If we can keep their defense on the field for long drives then those big guys like Darius Smith will be too worn-out to be effective…
Now Vernon on Bobby Hart is going to be an issue… Vernon is a 1st round talent and I hope the coaches keep someone in the back to help protect….
Would be very interested in Jimbo picking up the pace a little.
Not HUNH, but could pay dividends in the second half if we were a little crisper than usual
And please also keep in mind
Miami averages 2 sacks per game AND are 97th nationally in 3rd down conversion defense. I’d say that bodes pretty well for us considering we’re 27th in the nation in 3rd down conversion %.
Miami is 95th in pass efficiency defense, while, now with our full arsenal of receivers, we rank 11th nationally in pass efficiency.
This Miami team does not match up well.
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You're right...
but it depends on what they can do on offense to determine if we can truly take advantage of their defense… We need to understand what type of O-line Miami is going to field. They have monsters in the trenches that are not going to be easily pushed around and bullied like we did other teams. This is another reason why I said if Bjeorn does what he’s been doing against this O-line then he is definitely a Top-5 pick in my book…
But our offense should completely dominate. They are going to fight but we are too dynamic on offense to be shut down. We should go on scoring drives every time our offense touches the ball. But we do know how our offense loves to shut down in the second half so that could be an issue…
I didnt any read your entire post
But hypitheticals are irrelevant. If you take Lamar Miller out………. He’s not taken out, and because of that he needs to be considered.
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why is pace factored?
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by camfsu04e on Nov 10, 2011 10:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Given the instability at LB that Miami is having this week, and the loss of Ray Ray, I have to imagine that Miami’s D will more closely parallel Wake Forest as opposed to a Clemson or better. In other words, if we can play manageable football and avoid gifting the ball away, I think we’ll do well.
If Miami really does plan on slowing the tempo, we might see a low scoring game if Jimbo plays a methodical offense as well. And why not? If Miami’s design is to keep their defense off the field, our goal should be to keep them on for as long as humanly possible.
But we really, really MUST avoid mistakes. If we only get the ball three or four times per half, you gotta make em count. Mind you, our offensive TOP skyrockets as soon as we introduce Miami to an effective Bjorn Werner…
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Bjoern
Will be lined up with Henderson all night. Not saying Werner is going to be ineffective, just dont look to hum to be the shining star.
Seantrel not play all that well
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 10, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Miami fans are excited about Seantrel..
being back in the starting line-up. He has been injured all year due to a back injury that he had surgery on going into the season but the coaches say that he has managed to heal enough to play and be effective… I definitely won’t to see what he will or won’t do going up against Bjeorn Werner; who will be his biggest challenge of the year…
Seantrel
would best avoid being seen riding a scooter around Tally this weekend.
by GoNoles2011 on Nov 11, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
If Henderson doesn't get significant help in Pass Protection,
Werner will end up breaking Jacory in half. Unfortunately I don’t think Golden and crew are dumb enough to do that.
The last time a German faced an immovable object like that was...
the Maginot Line; and we all know how that turned out = Advantage Werner.
by zewhitedevil on Nov 11, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
With a name like zewhitedevil...
referencing historic German accomplishments might not be your best play. :)
I believe Jimbo
is going to call a pretty conservative gameplan, like Fisch will for the Canes. Plus, I believe the Canes are going to score on our D much more than other opponents have. Since they play at such a slow pace, we will be able to sub guys in frequently and hopefully our numbers will eventually wear them down. I think FSU pulls this one out, but it will be close.
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by Matt Champion on Nov 10, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
I just want to see Werner
turn Harris into Bratwurst and cook him on Nigel’s grill.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 10, 2011 10:45 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
gotta rec that one DKN....
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I honestly can't remember which song is playing during the entrance video,
But if it’s the same from the True Seminole video (and is in movie trailers), it’s Methodic Doubt – Lonely Dusk.
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Tried to find it on itunes.
But no dice.
by zewhitedevil on Nov 11, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
Actually thought Sem1nole had some good points
After multiple games in which we missed a game winning or game tying FG against them, after the game in which Fortson dropped the ball in the end zone, and my personal favoriote collapse the “greg jones” game maybe we do give just a bit too much credit to Miami due to brutal loses to them
I will say last year after watching the Noles go up big, I kept pleading for Jimbo not to take his foot off the gas. There was a time in 3rd quarter where miami was down by 2 TD’s and had the ball. Had they scored and cut it to a 7 point game it might have been another epic loss to the Hurricanes
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by Wire2Wire99Grad on Nov 11, 2011 2:25 AM EST reply actions
Jus please let EJ run tha option 2 tha rignt..damn Jimbo, don’t expose his bad limb!! I like tha option wrinkle but no designed runs for our Q.B this game!! Any1 concur?
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Way wrong. It’s a big game, EJ’s strength is as a running QB. He’ll be running a lot.
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I think so to
We haven’t seen an option play action yet this year have we? Thought I remember us using that successfully in the past.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
We haven't run any of that crazy stuff we ran in 2009. I loved that play book.
Option play action, reverses off of the option, etc.
This is kind of like having a great car but never driving it for fear of crashing
I don’t think we win this game if EJ has to play it from the pocket.
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 11, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
3rd and Long
That’s what I feel this defense needs to do to control this game the way they want to. If I had a gamplan these would be my primary goals against this Miami team:
1. Keep Lamar Miller under 85 yards rushing
2. Keeps rushes less than 3.0 ypc
3. Try to set up 3rd and 5+ cononsistentally each series to make Jacory beat you
4. Forget about sacks and just collapse the pocket with our front 4
5. Make sure safety help is available over the top as I’m sure they will take shots deep with two deep ball threats in Jenjamin and Streeter
I’m not worried about offensive production all that much. I really think this game is one or lost with our defense. Basically get Miami into a lot of 3rd and 5+ downs and I think we can “control” them the way we would like.
by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 11, 2011 6:56 AM EST reply actions
I have a bold prediction:
Lamarcus blasts Streeter early like he did Kenny Stills, and it sets the tone.
Gimme some sugar, baby.
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Nov 11, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Jacory Harris
Is Starvin Marvin
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If we could score early and get a 10-14 point lead we would force there offence to hurry and with skinny at qb that could lead to turn overs! !!! Also everyone thank a veteran today for everything they have done for our great country
by Noles3 on Nov 11, 2011 7:52 AM EST via mobile reply actions
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I know it is off topic, but the AP is stating that VT has the all-time ACC record for consecutive road victories at 12. How many did FSU have between ‘92 and ’95 before losing to Virginia? Is there a website that has scores from all of FSU’s past games?
tie for 12
92: Clemson, NC St, GT, Uva; 93: Duke, UNC, UMD; 94: UMD, WF, GT, NC St; 95: Clemson. While we weren’t in the conference yet, going backwards we did beat the Cocks on the road in 91 right before they left for SEC, Clemson in 88, USC in 86, UNC in 85, after we lost at USC in 84. The only other losses we had in that 12 year span not to the Gates or Canes were a couple to Auburn, and one each to Notre Dame, Nebraska, Michigan, Clemson (at home), and the inexplicable opening day loss to Southern Miss in Jax in 1989.
I expect to be saying something similar in 12 years, mentioning an inexplicable loss at WF but not having to talk about losing to UF or UM.
Bud that was a good article. Honestly, I feel a little better about my team after reading it. Our corners “are not very good” is an understatement. They are “turble” (Barclay style). This game though for some reason can usually go either way which is what makes it fun. LOL can’t wish you guys luck this week though. I may game blog over here a bit if that’s ok since 7th Floor has been so dead.
dead?...like your home games?
Just kiddin’. You can surely game blog with us. We have gates game blog with us all the time.
Only thing got me worried
Is Ej on his option pitchs to his right. If i am the miami coaching staff i tell my players to knock the hell out of EJ’s left injured arm. It seemed to affect EJ last game when he got blasted and it looks like one or two more hits and he could really be hurting. Not saying he wouldnt finish the game but could have an affect.
Other than that I am really looking forward to see how our DLine matches up against a large Miami o line. It will be imperative that our linebackers play well and dont get swallowed up by blockers. If we can do that, I think we win by 10-14 points
Gotta take that risk.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 11, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Reason for hope: Nobody's paying Canes bonuses for injuring opposing players anymore.*
*That we know of.
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One thing I've noticed about FSU & UM fans.....
No matter how good either team is. The closer we get to kickoff, Miami fans expect a bigger margin of victory and FSU fans expect to find a way to lose.
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by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 10:20 AM EST reply actions
New coach
New mindset for players and fans. Should start changing as FSU starts putting up consistent victories against Miami.
by zewhitedevil on Nov 11, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
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