Miami Hurricanes at Florida State Seminoles game preview
by Bud Elliott on Nov 11, 2011 10:34 AM EST
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PrintTomorrow is yet another chapter in the storied rivalry between the Miami Hurricanes and the Florida St. Seminoles. Miami comes to town with a 5-4 record (3-3 in the ACC). The 'Noles sit at 6-3 (4-2 in the ACC).
This year's rivalry has a bit of a different feel to it. Florida State and Miami have not clashed for too many recruits of late, as FSU dominated the trail for the 2010 and 2011 classes.
Yet as always, there will be top kids visiting for this game.
FSU comes into this matchup as a 9.5-point favorite over the Hurricanes. That's the largest line in this series since 2002, when the 'Canes were favored by 13.5 points.
The weather should be in the high 60s at kickoff and in the high 50s by the fourth quarter. Plan accordingly.
Before we dive into this preview, let's make sure to say a big Thank You, veterans!
How did Miami get to 5-4?
These are my thoughts at the time these games were played.
The Miami Hurricanes dropped their season opener to the Maryland Terrapins, 32-24. Miami showed some really good things, but also some bad things. With all their players, Miami can be a dangerous team. But the defense last night was very bad and the loss of the defensive linemen clearly showed. Unfortunately for the U, this is the last year for a long while that Miami has a chance to be very good, as they lose 21 seniors and likely 2-4 more early to the NFL. And the sanctions, etc.
UM VT Plays 60 63 Yards/Play 8.6 7.7 UM outgained VT by 12% per play Field Position UM 24 VT 24 The Miami Hurricanes went to Virginia Tech and played their hearts out. And lost 38-35. Both teams lack defensive depth and as such, a key injury or two helpd the opposing offense run up a ton of yards on each other. It's really hard to say either team outplayed the other. You have to be impressed with Miami's run game, though some of the success undoubtedly came because VT's defensive line depth is nonexistent and VT has a 258 pound true frosh at nose guard who was routinely dominated. Miami did let tight end with an arm Logan Thomas to go 23-25 through the air, which is terrible defense. What can be changed with the defense? The DC says it is already as simple as can be. Golden says a lot of guys believe they are much better than they really are. The 7th floor says get used to Miami losing a lot of games. And some Cane fans are realizing what I put out almost a year ago: they have no depth and the recruiting isn't doing anything to fix it.
UM UNC Plays 56 80 Yards/Play 5.6 5.4 UM outgained UNC by 4% per play Field Position Own 34 Own 33
Miami got the ball first, had a solid gameplan, took what UNC was giving, UNC missed tackles and Miami scored. Jacory Harris made some nice throws. UNC fumbles the next kickoff, Miami scores on the next play. 14-0 Canes. A few scores are exchanged, UNC makes a terrible call to kick on 4th-2 from the Miami 2 (enormous tactical error showing a lack of recognition of point expectancy from resulting field position). 25 minutes into the game, Miami is up 27-3 and then the Canes shut it down. Jacory Harris had been lights out. He started getting more erratic. The playcalling had been great. That stopped. UNC had stopped the run all day and Miami decided to try and run out the second half. In the end, this was a very evenly-played game, but Miami definitely shut it down up 24 points.
Jacory Harris is playing very well now, with no interceptions in 14 quarters. Still, I think FSU matches up quite well against the Canes. It'll be a good game in a month.
GT UM Score 7 24 Plays 60 44 Yards/Play 4.5 3.5 GT outgained UM by 28% per-play Field Position Own 20 Own 42 This was the least-dominant 17-point win I have ever seen. This isn't homerism. I've told you before when a rival is impressive. But this wasn't one of those games.
Miami was outplayed by Georgia Tech, on a down-to-down basis (see chart at left), but special teams and turnovers absolutely killed Georgia Tech.
Miami's touchdown drives were both only 46 yards. That's right, Tech gave the Hurricanes tremendous field position via turnovers and special teams. Miami didn't have a single drive of over 50 yards. Miami had four drives start in Georgia Tech territory! What's more? Miami's other touchdown came when GT muffed a punt and then bumped it into the end zone. Miami's field position was, on average, 22 yards better per drive than Tech's. Over a 13-drive game, that is an enormous difference.
3.5 yards/play for Miami is absolutely horrid. Jacory Harris was 8-23 for 140 yards and an interception. There was a good wind on the field, however, which hurt. The run game was also pretty bad, averaging 3.3 yards/carry by running back.
Credit Miami's defense, however, for playing tough. And Credit Al Golden for an excellent plan. Miami's defense has no quality depth, so Miami's offense took almost the entire play clock on each snap. The Canes' defense stayed fresh.
Miami announced a crowd of 43,716, however that figure was again way, way high based on estimates of those who were there. That program is in serious trouble if this team cannot draw 40,000 for a ranked team, at home, with beautiful weather. Miami hosts Virginia this Thursday. Don't expect more than 35,000 in the stands. DO expect Miami to announce more than 40,000.
UVA UM Score 28 21 Plays 63 60 Yards/Play 7.5 7.2 UVA outgained Miami by 4% per play Field Position Own 18 Own 32
The Miami Hurricanes dropped a game to the Virginia Cavaliers. They really were not outplayed by much, if at all.
The difference in this one was basically Miami's two missed field goals. Miami's offense is very good. That's a good offensive line, they have the best back in the conference and arguably the best receiver in the conference. And Jacory Harris is a different player.
But Miami's defense, well, ...
7.5 yards/play allowed at home to Virginia? Seriously, Canes? Miami has been the second-worst defense in ACC play.
The story with Miami continues to be ignored by the media, but this is the best Miami is going to look for a long time. Miami's best players will be leaving via graduation and early entry to the draft. Miami announced 40,403 fans, and there were no more than 33,000, if that.
This week, the Canes face Duke and are offering a package of 4 tickets, $40 stadium bucks, and parking for $13 dollars. Yes, the school is basically paying you to attend the game.
Virginia's run game looked very good, but this is not the first team to gash Miami, so let's wait and see how they look against one of the best defenses in the country in three weeks. Post-game wrap.
Duke Miami Score 14 42 Plays 47 56 Yards/Play 5.79 7.96 Miami outgained Duke by 38% per play Field Position Own 20 Own 36 Miami plays really, really slowly. Each team had only 8 non-garbage possessions. I think they do this to protect a defense that has very little depth.
Miami basically made Duke look like Duke. Jacory Harris played much better than he did against Georgia Tech or Virginia. Dare I say that he is a good quarterback?! I might say just that. This is a very good offense that scored touchdowns on its first five drives.
The defense, however, is still not much. Duke had drives of 82, 74 and 68 yards before garbage time.
Miami offense v. Florida State defense
| Miami Offense |
| WR 8 Tommy Streeter (6-5, 217, Jr.) |
| 1 Allen Hurns (6-3, 190, So.) |
| 2 LaRon Byrd (6-4, 222, Sr.) |
| LT 72 BRANDON WASHINGTON (6-4, 320, JR.) |
| 79 Malcolm Bunche (6-7, 325, R-Fr.) |
| LG 66 HARLAND GUNN (6-2, 317, SR.) |
| 61 Joel Figueroa (6-6, 317, Gr.) |
| C 63 TYLER HORN (6-4, 305, SR.) |
| 62 Shane McDermott (6-4, 295, R-Fr.) |
| RG 65 Brandon Linder (6-6, 310, So.) |
| 75 Jared Wheeler (6-5, 315, So.) |
| RT 77 Seantrel Henderson (6-8, 345, So.) |
| or 70 Jon Feliciano (6-5, 320, R-Fr.) |
| TE 49 Dyron Dye (6-5, 275, R-So.) |
| 46 Clive Walford (6-4, 245, R-Fr.) |
| 9 Chase Ford (6-6, 260, Sr.) |
| FB 33 Maurice Hagens (5-11, 240, Sr.) |
| 43 John Calhoun (6-3, 245, Jr.) |
| QB 12 JACORY HARRIS (6-4, 200, SR.) |
| 17 Stephen Morris (6-2, 210, So.) |
| HB 6 Lamar Miller (5-11, 215, So.) |
| 5 Mike James (5-11, 222, Jr.) |
| or 23 Eduardo Clements (5-9, 195, So.) |
| WR 3 TRAVIS BENJAMIN (5-10, 171, SR.) |
| 85 Phillip Dorsett (5-9, 178, Fr.) |
Let's go ahead and get this out of the way: this is a very, very good Miami offense. You might not know it because the 'Canes defense routinely puts the offense in unfavorable field position, and because Miami plays an incredibly slow pace to protect the defense. But on a per-possession basis, you won't find more than a handful better.
So get excited! A tremendous offense v. a tremendous defense!
The popular story in the media is the resurgence of Jacory Harris. But the real story, at least to me, is the running game.
This is a very good offensive line. Randy Shannon didn't do much right, but he did let OL coach Jeff Stoutland recruit (now at Alabama). This group has stayed remarkably healthy, and has really grown together. This is a very mature group. And they are better run blockers than pass protectors. Brandon Jenkins will have quite the task on his hands in trying to stop the run against powerful tackle Brandon Washington.
And it's not just a good offensive line keying this attack. No, Miami also has arguably the best back in the ACC since C.J. Spiller in Lamar Miller. Miller is already at 1,000+ yards on the season. He's always been extremely fast, but has bulked up to a very impressive 215 pounds.
Most of Miami's run game is gap exchange (man blocking, not zone). FSU has seen plenty of this and should be ready.
Miami hits just as many explosive plays from its run game as it does its passing game. False steps by FSU's linebackers or poor angles from a certain maligned safety could be disastrous for FSU. The 'Noles need to make sure to "live another play."
But that's not to say the passing game isn't also good. It is. Very good. In fact, it is even better than the run game. This, however, is probably because teams are keying on the run quite a bit (justifiably so).
Jacory Harris is playing much better, and he has two excellent receivers to which he delivers the ball in Streeter and Benjamin. Streeter has really come on this year. He's a go-get-it deep ball guy without a ton of open field moves. An excellent leaper, Miami will look to get him singled up on Greg Reid. Benjamin is super fast, but small, and is a terror in the open field. Luckily, FSU has Xavier Rhodes, Greg Reid and Mike Harris (uh, three really good corners).
The 'Canes stay in their 2 WR, 2 RB i-formation alignment, for the most part. The tight ends are not a great group, and Miami does not have a scary #3 receiver.
And Miami plays slow. Reallllly, realllly slow. Why? To protect a suspect defense (We'll see next section).
This is not a bad matchup for FSU's defense from a style standpoint, but it is tough. Look for FSU to deny the deep ball while stacking the box and playing a lot of soft cover-3 early. Then mix up the looks later.
Goals
-Hold Miami to less than 5.75 yards/play
-Force two turnovers
-Don't allow more than 5 explosive plays (runs of 15+, passes of 25+)
Miami defense v. Florida State offense
| Miami Defense |
| DE 71 Anthony Chickillo (6-4, 255, Fr.) |
| 48 Andrew Smith (6-3, 248, Sr.) |
| DT 97 Adewale Ojomo (6-4, 265, Jr.) |
| 92 Jalen Grimble (6-2, 280, Fr.) |
| DT 98 Darius Smith (6-2, 335, Jr.) |
| 54 MICANOR REGIS (6-3, 300, SR.) |
| DE 56 Marcus Robinson (6-1, 250, Sr.) |
| 35 Olivier Vernon (6-4, 265, Jr.) |
| 94 Kelvin Cain (6-3, 230, So.) |
| MLB 59 Jimmy Gaines (6-3, 225, So.) |
| 36 Gionni Paul (6-0, 230, Fr.) |
| WLB 31 SEAN SPENCE (6-0, 225, SR.) |
| 52 Denzel Perryman (6-0, 221, Fr.) |
| CB 41 Mike Williams (6-1, 182, Gr.) |
| 32 Lee Chambers (5-10, 185, Sr.) |
| SS 7 VAUGHN TELEMAQUE (6-2, 202, JR.) |
| 29 JOJO NICOLAS (6-1, 195, SR.) |
| 11 A.J. Highsmith (6-0, 195, Jr.) |
| CB 21 Brandon McGee (6-0, 185, Jr.) |
| 20 Thomas Finnie (5-10, 180, So.) |
Florida State's defense and Miami's offense is likely a draw. But the 'Noles offense should have the advantage over Miami's defense.
Miami runs a standard 4-3 defense and will show some 3-4 looks. As we covered yesterday, this has not been a very good defense to this point.
What are the issues?
Miami's defensive line is decent, but not special. They're missing Marcus Forston in the worst way. Now, DT Darius Smith has come on (listed at 335, probably 350). That's a tough matchup for true freshman center Austin Barron, one of the many replacements on FSU's offensive line.
Did you know: FSU has lost 3 offensive line starters since Spring, and 5 of its top 9? It's true.
Anyway, FSU will be paying special attention to Olivier Vernon, as Miami will line him up over 17-year old tackle Bobby Hart. On the plus side, Zebrie Sanders should be able to handle Anthony Chickillo.
The linebacking corps is not without its issues either. Yes, Spence is still there and is still all-world. But Jordan Futch is out for this game, and Miami doesn't have a great replacement for him.
Miami's run fits have not been good this year against teams utilizing the QB run threat. That has to keep defensive coordinator Mike D'Onofrio up at nights, as E.J. Manuel is a tremendous running QB.
Look for FSU to line up in spread sets and test Miami's ability to defend runs involving the quarterback (zone reads, options, maybe a little veer?) This is obviously a big game and Jimbo Fisher will not hesitate to run Manuel a lot.
And don't think Miami's secondary is without its issues. Miami's corners aren't any good, particularly not when Miami just had to move its best corner back to safety because its safety made the bone-headed move to tweet about dinner with an agent-type (even if she is his girlfriend).
I don't see Miami being able to man up with FSU's receivers. That means Manuel will see a lot of zone from Miami.
And with Manuel's running threat, that zone coverage should be pretty predictable. Miami won't be able to to sit in a two-high shell and defend Manuel's legs.
FSU just needs to take what Miami gives. This seems simple, but Miami will definitely be giving things. If the 'Canes give the deep ball, FSU can and should take it. If they want to play two-high and cover the wideouts, the 'Noles should run. They try to take away the deep ball and the run? Flip the ball out to the playmakers and let them do their work.
If the 'Noles can get out to an early lead it would be tremendously helpful as it might make Miami abandon its ultra-slow pace. The 'Canes are not used to playing at a fast pace and abandoning the run. An early lead for FSU might make Miami do so.
But it's also important not to press. FSU's offense is good enough to beat Miami if it simply 1) recognizes what Miami is doing on defense and 2) takes what Miami is giving. FSU needs to play under control. And while the temptation is there to play very fast and wear out a rather thin defense, the greater need is to correctly get into the right plays and checks pre-snap.
Goals
-At least 6.25 yards/play
-No more than 1 turnover
Other notes
FSU should have the special teams advantage here. Miami obviously has dangerous returners, but FSU has the way better kicker and punter and better returners.
Prediction
I'll go with 'Noles 31, Canes 23.
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Boston has little interest in BC football, and none at all in the rest of the ACC
When we were in Boston last week, we saw virtually no local interest in BC football, except among BC alums. Boston is emphatically a pro sports town, not a college football town.
But, but, but
I thought we were in dire need to pick up the New England “foot print”???
When BC is good, they do pick up a bit of the Northeast viewership.
But BC is horrible this year, and everybody knows it.
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"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Yes, and also the sham that Miami is a "northern team" and should always
be in the “northern” divistion of a proposed division reallignment.
I like them in the North in a North/South split just to make things a bit more even.
We’ll play them regardless and they’re so far from even the Southern ACC schools that none of that really matters where they play. Jmo.
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I think Miami should be in the Northern Division
Because the majority of the school’s students/alums are from the Northeast. Games against Maryland/UVA are ideal for D.C./Baltimore natives to attend and games against BC/Syracuse are ideal for New England and New York natives to attend. We should play BC every year anyway as that is a historic rivalry both fanbases would like to continue. Even Pitt. makes sense considering its relative proximity to Chicago, which has a strong alumni base (part of the reason Miami is playing Notre Dame there next year).
Can you show me some UM data declaring more alumni are in the northeast?
And Pitt’s not really close to Chicago; 8 hour drive. But like I said, I’m not at all against Miami being in the North.
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Hey tricknole
The best I could find was this Princeton Review fact sheet showing that 50% of our student body is from out-of-state. As someone who attends UM (grad school now), I am fairly confident that this percentage should be higher, particularly considering all the international students here. I swear every other person you meet here is from New Jersey or Long Island.
It’s tough to find any solid alumni statistics. However, as an active alumni who attends events, I wouldn’t rely on data submitted by the Alumni Association. This is because the alumni based in FL are much more involved with the Alumni Association and thus much more likely to be accounted for in any data that the alumni association publishes or submits. That said, I should have clarified that a larger ratio of alumni (than students) ultimately settle down somewhere in Florida, as many graduates fall in love with the weather and/or get jobs in the area. Additionally, South Florida is obviously a very popular retirement destination, thus many older alumni return here once they retire. Unfortunately, these older alumni don’t seem too fond of attending games at Sun Life Stadium.
These are really good matchups
Their offense, which seems to be a little better than our defense plays a style that our defense is good against.
Their defense, however should be much worse than our offense. EJ’s ability to check out of plays that he has been improving this year will show itself, and our offense will dominate.
I live in Houston. According to the coverage map, if you look closely, the Houston area has a patch of red. I checked my Comcast listings last night and again this morning. The A&M game is def on ABC, but for ESPN it says “Michigan vs Illinois OR FSU vs Miami”.
Effin ambiguous listing. Does me know justice. Either way, I will probably head to the Seminole bar and get the game. But it sucks not knowing if I can record it.
by thirdcoastnole on Nov 11, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I'm travelling to Colorado
leaving my home in CA where he game is being shown to a blackout zone where the game des not exist. ESPN sucks.
by GoNoles2011 on Nov 11, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like the only major city in CO not getting the game
is Fort Collins. Why go there?
by Wild@Heart Nole on Nov 11, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Thirdcoast -
You may want to check ESPN’s affiliates. Usually when they have it listed as an “OR” game, they will pick up the other game on ESPNa (Alternate) or ESPNPlus (which is usually a local affiliate.) More than likely the game will be on DirecTV’s ESPNa for people who have that channel.
:)
GO NOLES!
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by fsutampaguy on Nov 11, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Where's that bar in Houston?
The coverage map sucks. We’ll end up with Michgan/Illinios. A few weeks back we were even blocked out from the espn3 site…
Lucky’s Pub downtown. Check out http://houstonseminoles.com/ for more details (click Game Watching).
by thirdcoastnole on Nov 11, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
What's your complain?
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tricknole = Peggy?
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
* golf clap *
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Vince, Nigel, CJ and Telvin...
no highlight reel stuff, just DO YOUR JOBS.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions
I agree with that thought
But LJ rarely takes bad angles!
by FSnowUknow on Nov 11, 2011 1:13 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
and if he does hes got the speed to make up for it..
ive yet to see him be outrun in the open field.
Saw Peter Warrick play once. The rest is history...
If he takes a bad angle against Miller.....
he’s toast. I don’t know who can run Miller down without a good angle.
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Bert Reed can
Oh wait a minute….
by CCDFSU07 on Nov 11, 2011 10:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree.
I watched the Canes Spring game at the HS Stadium in FTL. Miller ran for two TDs of over 50 yds right toward me at my end zone seat. Whether the Canes secondary is any good or not, they are never all slow. On both runs, once it was a foot race, he was gone. On the second run, a DB had an angle at the thirty and gave up. The DB did not come up limp. He must have known that he was toast. As Elmer Fudd said, “Be vewy vewy caweful”.
Ha. Was going for Saban speak. Bill works too.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
And DESTROY starvin marvin
If you guys get a chance during the many tip drills tomorrow.
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by numberonenole on Nov 11, 2011 3:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Well, last year we were supposed to lose. I hope we break them fast and unleash Wilder for the second half.
Everybody relax, I'm here.
Thought game would come out in the 7.5-9.5 range and it did in Vegas as well.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 11, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Miami’s injured and depleted defensive unit will be the difference in this game. FSU 30-17. If I had more faith in our LBs and #4 not reverting to bad habits I would put UM’s chances of winning at 10%, as is however it is prob somewhere around 30%. UM will def be swimming upstream regardless if they fail to capitalize on their opportunties early and take control of the pace of the game. This is the type of game that could get away from them very easily early, FSU will have a wider margin of error but hopefully that will not lead to complacency as it has so many times in the past when we have had better teams than UM.
Our chances are even better when Jacory goes out.
Not “if”, but “when.” Not that our defense will be trying to knock him out of the game or injure him. It’s just that a stick man has no chance against the defense known as “Timmy Chaos and the Germinator.”
Different decade, same results.
by PeachTreeNole on Nov 11, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Touchdown Tommy
Is a pretty good nickname and the only guy who scares me. Miller relies on his OLINE, cut back and his speed in the openfield. I don’t see that happening this year. When I think of Meeami-FSU in Tally I only remember the goats. Monroe, Lee, Mangum. Someone in da u secondary will get the crown this year. GO NOLES. MUCK FIAMI.
Seriously Turtle, Smoke More Weed
If you don;t think we have to worry about Miller,
you are insane. He may not get 100 yds rushing, but that’ll because he is the focus of the defense.
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by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
It is so ESPN broadcaster of me to say that the keys to an FSU victory are…do not have turnovers in crucial field positions and stop the Miami running game…should I do the worst thing that I hate and predict an FSU victory on a field goal, laugh, chuckle, say the same thing everyone has said for the last 20 years…no really, 31-24 FSU
I'll play co-analyst and add that we have to limit penalties
We can’t extend drives for them or bury ourselves in 1st & 20s and expect to win this game
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 11, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Why must you torture us?!?!
Do not even mention the possibility of it coming down to a late FG.
Here's hoping it happens to Miami with the game on the line.
And we block it.
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"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Areas to watch.
FSU WR vs. Miami Corners.
Miami WR vs. FSU MLB.
These are where the game will be decided.
I like FSU in a rout, but Miami impressive offensively. FSU 41-20.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 11, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
O-line
…may be all new, but they have gotten progressively more impressive in the last 2-3 weeks, barring a couple missed assignments last week that led to unobstructed sacks.
EJ needs to learn to either throw the ball after the 2 count, or he needs to evade pressure. He spends far too much time in the pocket patting the ball eyeing down receivers.
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by fsutampaguy on Nov 11, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
We've also gone against some really bad DLines.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
NC State pitched a shutout vs. UNC
That does not happen if your DL stinks. NC State’s DL is underrated (and they gave us some problems).
by GoNoles2011 on Nov 11, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I've saw Bama do this against LSU with
Barrett Jones and D.J. Fluker. Do you see FSU flipping Bobby Hart and Zebrie a few times in the game so that Zebrie matches up with Vernon?
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by Matt Champion on Nov 11, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Still don't know what to really expect
I could see a close win/loss or an easy win. Cannot, however, see an easy UM win.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions
I'm with you on not knowing what to expect
Part of me just wants a win, the homer part of me wants to see Ibis mutilation.
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by Matt Champion on Nov 11, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
DK, how come no Q & A
with….nevermind.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 11:19 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
It went so well last year with the site
That we just completely trolled after the game.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Nov 11, 2011 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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TN: Miami seems to have trouble finding fans. Your site seems to have trouble finding readers. What’s up?
SFB:
TN: Ok… So anyway, discuss the addition of Al Golden to the program and what it means for the entire team to enjoy his employee discounts at Enterprise Rent-a-car?
SFB:
TN: Right, so you would agree this should help get players to “home” games on time?
SFB:
TN: Excellent insight, as always. Your name-sake Ray Ray Armstrong tweeted a picture of a chicken. Discuss.
SFB:
TN: I bet it delicious. Which, begs the question. Will someone feed your quarterback?
SFB:
TN:
Exactly. Now, let’s wrap this up. Give us a prediction for tomorrow.
SFB:
Football is my favorite show.
by coonhound on Nov 11, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 23 recs
Hahahahaha. This. Is. Awesome.
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Just brilliant.
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Coonhound, so awesome because it's so true. The only thing missing was 5 national championships and recruiting rankings don't matter as proven by _________(insert name here) from that worthless POS blog.
My 22nd REC has to put you up there with most recs ever.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
What are the odds CJF throws some new stuff in this game?
I just remember last year that having such an impact on our win last year.
The I Forms twins set play action HB screen to JT last year was sick
We haven’t ran anything like that since then. I hope we unleash the ultimate formation tomorrow:
Tim Jernigan Wildcat
by CCDFSU07 on Nov 11, 2011 10:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
On defense
When is it NOT a team goal to take away the deep ball?
I see this on a log of team’s previews on various sites… Team A will try to take away the deep ball from Team B.
Serious question… is there ever a time when a defense says, to hell with the deep ball, we aren’t worried about it?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
good points
You and DK both.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
But seriously
nobody is going to ignore it. Just don’t make it a priority against some teams.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
When you play BC.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Against Duke
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 11, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
VT gave us the deep ball back in 08 if I remember correctly
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Nov 11, 2011 1:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Others can correct me,
But it seemed last year when EJ had to fill in for Ponder’s elbow, opposing defenses in the first couple series were always content to play the run and assume EJ did not have the arm/accuracy that CP7 did… at which point EJ promptly tossed up a nice 40 yarder in single coverage.
When the opposing QuarterBack's name is Drew Weatherford.
Serious question… is there ever a time when a defense says, to hell with the deep ball, we aren’t worried about it?
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NOL
The linebacking corps is not without its issues either. Yes, Spence is still there and is still all-world. But Jordan Futch is out for this game, and Miami doesn’t have a great replacement for him.
Any anticipation that NOL could have a breakout game, given he runs the correct routes?
Sure
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 11, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
On running correct routes
Bert Reed certainly hopes so
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lets run the option with NOL
why the hell not
by rythefly on Nov 11, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because he might run into EJ at this point
Great talent, but lost on the field sometimes
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lets run the option with [Jack Niclaus’ grandson]
Fixed that for you.
by TuckNole on Nov 11, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Something tells me this will be a shootout.
Lamar Miller will probly get his no matter how well the defense plays and as much as it pains me to say it, Harris will probably have a good game because of FSU’s focus on the running game.
Hope we win the kick, defer, get an initial 3 and out to start. Would love to see us get the ball after the half in this one.
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Did you know that before Sebastian the Ibis became scUM's mascot they had a boxer who wore a football helmet and a cape as their mascot, and his name was Hurricane I.
He ran away shortly thereafter. True story.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Nov 11, 2011 11:32 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Pictured here with a hooker
courtesy of Nevin Shapiro.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
...that's my grandma. Be nice.
GO NOLES!
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by fsutampaguy on Nov 11, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
why did your grandma run away?
And who is that old lady with her?
Champ here! I'm all about havin' fun. You know, get a couple cocktails in me, start a fire in someone's kitchen. Maybe go to SeaWorld, take my pants off.
by SemiErectNoles on Nov 11, 2011 1:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Your grandma is Nevin Shapiro?
Weird
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Nov 11, 2011 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
A dog?
This is the dumbest mascot for a hurricane…ever.
GO NOLES!
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by fsutampaguy on Nov 11, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Worse than Donald Duck with swag?
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I admit Donald Duck is lame...
…but at least the Ibis actually has some significance in correlation to a Hurricane.
is not as bad as…
GO NOLES!
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by fsutampaguy on Nov 11, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Punp the brakes kid
Puddles is a national treasure.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Nov 11, 2011 1:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Unbelievable biologically inaccurate representation an Ibis beak.
Though not as bad as a snake with arms and legs. (wouldn’t that be a lizard?)
by The K-Man on Nov 11, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Also, note:
The real ibis does not have Grandpa Munster’s eyebrows grafted on.
Seriously, what is that about?
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
No idea, maybe everyone in So FL just has bushy eyebrows?
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Retired yankees?
Swag? Swag.
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The ibis is
gay.
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That article is referring to the white Ibis.
Those have nothing to do the University of Miami football team. The ashy Ibis, that is a whole nother story. They are actually the opposite of gay. They enjoy boats and hoes.
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Not anymore.
But, yeah.
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
What caused the transformation?
The poor play on the field? The fickle fan-base? The scandal? All of the above?
Not hatin’ at all just curious.
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Scandal 1st.
Idiot fan base 2nd. Results on the field had nothing to do with it.
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
oh...dat bird? he aint gay, he jus ashy
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by NorFla_Nole on Nov 12, 2011 2:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can you explain what an Ibis has to do with a hurricane?
Other than both come to Florida? If thats the only correlation then their mascot could have just as easily been a senior citizen or a foreign tourist.
I didnt get a harrumph out of that guy!
the ibis is the last bird to leave when a hurricane is about to hit
IIRC
by ArsonistSavior on Nov 11, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Is that science or just some crap a scUM fan made up?
You know so their mascot would look tougher. I mean if that were at all possible.
I didnt get a harrumph out of that guy!
I've heard it also.
They say it’s the first to return or something, too. But how is being the LAST one to leave before a potentially fatal natural disaster strikes a good thing?
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by tricknole on Nov 11, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ask the good people of New Orleans.
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Ibis got wings and can fly.
The citizens of new orleans did not. Nor did many of them have the means to get out.
Funny jokes though.
I didnt get a harrumph out of that guy!
They're not to blame..
it’s the smart folks that decided to drain a lake and build a city in the void.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What's that say about the idiots who decided to build it back?
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They have stupid people insuring them.
Either that, or there are stupid government regulations that REQUIRE the insurers to cover them, even though they’re in a stupid location and guaranteed to lose money in such a disaster.
There’s also the ever-popular “Both of the above”.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
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"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Not to get too deep into this discussion, but
I can walk a loong way with a 3 day head start.
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Ibis got wings and can fly.
The citizens of new orleans did not.
They had chicken wings, but flight was not available.
Come on, man. You're in the medical field, right?
You’ve taken organic chemistry.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Doc
I thought Corn would know some of this basic stuff. Corn, you should be embarrassed.
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Alright:
Why is everyone so damn funny today? Because it’s starting to feel like the ‘88 Seminole Rap. We’re excited, damn near giddy. We’re losing 31-0 tomorrow, aren’t we?
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Hey, just preparing.
What are we on, Wide Right 5?
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I think the correct name for this game ought to be:
Miami’s Turn to Pay.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
from Wikipedia
“Native American and university [of miami] folklore held that the bird was the last to seek shelter before a hurricane, and the first to emerge afterwards, and hence it was a symbol for danger and optimism.”
so yeah, it very well could be BS
by ArsonistSavior on Nov 11, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I checked wikipedia too...
the referemce is attirbuted to “Hurricane Sports”
So in that case: Florida Seminoles are the most badassiest culture in human history because FSU said so.
I didnt get a harrumph out of that guy!
The only Natives not to sign some sort of "peace" treaty, right?
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That is truth.
The ibis being the last to leave before a hurricane, to me, seems like BS.
For some reason the Ibis pisses me off more than any other single thing about UM, aside from their fans and colors and everything else.
I didnt get a harrumph out of that guy!
I ALWAYS loathed the frickin mascot.
Especially when he pulls his stoopid little beak around his ugly face.
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 11, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It looks like some BADLY diseased labia when he does that....
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I always liked it when he assumed this position:
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
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"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Nov 11, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thats where he belongs!
What is the definition of safe sex down in Gainesville?
Placing signs on the animals that kick.
by ValdostaNole on Nov 11, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
John Routh shown wearing the UM’s Sebastian the Ibis costume, carries a fire extinguisher onto the field while wearing a Coral Gables Fire Dept coat, hoping to spray the flaming spear of Florida State’s Chief Osceola while he was riding Renegade. After being ordered to put down the fire extinguisher by a Leon County deputy, Routh squirts the deputy with the fire extinguisher. Four deputies then surround Sebastian, throw him against a wall, empty his fire extinguisher, and threaten to arrest him for disorderly conduct. Routh was not arrested but was detained until after the traditional planting of the spear at midfield.
After the game, then FSU president Bernard Sliger wrote a letter to Routh that said his actions could have spooked Renegade and impacted public safety and that the Ibis is not allowed on the field in the future during the FSU pre-game festivities and once the game begins.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
That was your team!
how could you hate the mascot and root for the team! haha
What is the definition of safe sex down in Gainesville?
Placing signs on the animals that kick.
by ValdostaNole on Nov 11, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Again,
you have SEEN the mascot, right? As a general rule, I hate cartoon character mascots.
I know we call older women that pursue younger males cougars. Should we could older men that pursue younger males Nittany Lions?
by Nole Resurrected on Nov 14, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
In the words of Groucho,
“Why a duck? Why not a chicken?”
Dumber then a BIRD???
2011 BCS Bowl
2012 MNC
Eeeeeeexcellent
by SoCalNole on Nov 11, 2011 1:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's sad that the dog ran away
but at the same time it’s kinda hilarious
by CornDogScandal on Nov 11, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
The Dog was just a Miami Fan ahead of his time.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Nov 11, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
She offered her honor
and I honored her offer.
Then I was honer and offer your honor.
And then she ran away.
I typically don’t include that. No connection between penalties and success, historically
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 11, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I agree. OU, CU and Wake have been erased from history.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I get it.
Games from 1947 have more bearing than those from a month ago? Makes sense. haha.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
There was a bad hurricane in 1947
that hit South Florida. Perhaps that is the correlation.
Memory at least
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Maybe there's no measureable relationship
But it is hard to watch a game like the GT-VT game last night and not conclude that one penalty had a major impact on the game. Obviously a lot of other things happened that led to GT’s loss, but that personal foul changed the complexion: it amounted to a turnover, changed field position, and gave VT a much-needed shot in the arm.
So I’d add the goal of no “giving people the business” penalties.
Problem with that is that there’s no way to show the effects of all of the actions that could have been called as penalties and weren’t. Do the plays that could have been penalties but weren’t called yield an advantage greater than those penalties that are called? It’s a frequency/effect thing. If you’re trying to cut down on penalties you’re thereby cutting down on any advantage you might receive from actions that could’ve been called penalties. Obviously this thought needs some fleshing out, but it’s an interesting one IMO.
>>---l>
Great point
I’m guess I’m thinking not so much about cutting down “football-related” penalties, but rather the bone-headed, non-football-related penalties that don’t yield any advantage and only have the potential to hurt the team: i.e., a forearm-shiver to the opposing QB’s head after the whistle because, apparently, you were frustrated because you couldn’t tackle said QB.
Although the stats tell much of the story for each game, there is much more to each game than those stats. There will always be variables we can’t measure. The non-football-related penalties seem to be one of things that is difficult to measure, but can greatly affect a game.
The advantage gained from reading the comments before posting one of my own.
I was going to make the same point that you did. I am happy I read your comment 1st.
If you can get away with holding 90% of the time, there is an advantage to holding on 90% of the plays. But there is no advantage to a “forearm-shiver” to the opposing team’s QB, even if you get away with it.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Nov 11, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
No non-physical PFs
The hit on the Maryland QB gets a pass in my book (and I’d slip him an extra tomahawk sticker when nobody else was looking).
by GoNoles2011 on Nov 11, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Nevermind. You said goals. Yes, the non -operating penalties should be in there
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 11, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
How much would it cost us to rent those UF/Vandy Refs
Might help Parks’ confidence going into this one
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I think we cover the spread 35-17 FSU
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Anxious to see that match up between Werner and Henderson
That could be an epic battle between those two guys.
I also think we start with some speed option and quick passes to backs and NOL. That shoudl free up the WRs to get down field.
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I think people are overrating Washington at LT
He is very good guard and great at running blocking even at LT but he would be much better inside and will be inside in the NFL. Here is some analysis from walterfootball, a mock draft site I like.
10/29/11: After being an All-ACC pick last year at guard, Miami moved Washington to left tackle after Seantrel Henderson was injured. Washington has had a mixed outing at left tackle. He has done a decent job of run blocking for Miami running back Lamar Miller. Washington has a nice combination of power and mobility, but belongs on the inside. Head coach Al Golden was openly critical of Washington after he struggled against North Carolina and defensive end Quinton Coples. Washington took offense at the possibility that he could be benched and not get a starting spot at guard if Henderson replaced him at left tackle. Washington has some talent, and his situation at Miami looks murky. He may enter the draft just to escape the problems.
Jenkins has really turned it on of late with his play. I hope he exposes him in pass protect but I gotta see Washington is a good looking prospect from the times I’ve seen him. The UNC/Coples matchup may be a bit unfair as UM went into shutdown mode offenseivley in that game early after they got a lead and became very predictable, not to mention Coples is a top 5 rated player overall.
Overall FSU, but UNC is very very good on the dline. Think FSU’s interior depth puts them over the top but UNC may have an edge just going off the starters.
I am not sure I agree with this.
And when you factor in our depth up front its not really even close.
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 6:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How good could UNC have been this year, and last; if they didn't have all the players suspended, and or kicked off the team?
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Nov 11, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Coples is not a top 5 player after this year.
He was definitely pre-season, but not a good year for him.
Attendance prediction anyone?
OU was 84,392
NCST was 80,849
for reference
Re: Canes Fans
Ironically, I may know the only Miami fan who lives in Tallahassee, works in Tallahassee, and went to FSU. He tailgates at every FSU game, and he always wears his orange and puke colors.
So there will be at least one present. lol.
GO NOLES!
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by fsutampaguy on Nov 11, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
This guy. They are usually cutting me off with no blinker in some super tinted out can with some vanity plate I don't understand.
I see the U sticker and say ‘of course’ There is one I always see on Old Bainbridge with flags and Da U written all over the windows. He’s had it on there for months. Index finger ring? Check. Big ole classy chain? Check. Awesome Bandana? Check. I guarantee his favorite director is Michael Bay.
I would rather pre-game in a herd of gators than 1 Miami fan.
Everybody relax, I'm here.
by NOLEmercy3 on Nov 11, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
quality hate rec.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
This guy is a Nevin Shapiro wannabe
Lord have mercy
A nice allusion
to Sandusky’s finest hour
check out the shades being displayed on the bandanna upside down
This character put some thought into his ensemble.
and the single eye-black U sticker
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by NorFla_Nole on Nov 11, 2011 2:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
also, note the orange U braclet on one arm balacnced out by the white and orange sweatbands on his right
so very stylish
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by NorFla_Nole on Nov 11, 2011 2:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I personally enjoy the ring on the index finger,
and of course the aforementioned 1985 Fiesta Bowl throwback uni.
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This is like that game where you find all the things that are wrong with the picture
And there are soooo many things wrong with this picture
by SanDiegoSeminole on Nov 11, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Surely the henna has rubbed off by now.
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"I guarantee his favorite director is Michael Bay"
That was great.
by BeNole on Nov 11, 2011 1:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Nothing, but he would argue Transformers 2 for Best Picture...
and be serious.
Odds? – He wears Body Glitter in the club when he’s ‘taking it to the next level’ on the strip.
Everybody relax, I'm here.
By far the worst of the trilogy.
At least 1&3 made some sort of sense.
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Yes. Awesome.
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
True, but all 4 of those are great things.
At least 2 of them are national treasures.
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
Without a doubt!
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
There were two chicks in the Transformers series I found more attractive.
That’s all.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
I can agree with this.
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
Maybe 3.
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
That was awesome.
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I have a feeling this guy really hates that Marky Mark is you know, no longer Marky Mark.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
What's interesting is that the look on the MD fan's face is so exactly right...
…that you forget it’s the design of the mask.
Seriously folks, if you’ve never met one, there are two kinds of Miami fans. The one kind is the stand-up guy who wears the nice golf shirt with the U logo, attended the university, bets lunch with you on the big game, and humbly reminisces with you on the good ol’ days of the rivalry, earnestly wishing both teams could dominate the national scene again and says things like, “Hey, I’d rather it be you guys than Florida”, “Both teams made that rivalry great,” and “You know what, we’re just lucky we had a kicker.” He orders water with the lunch and buys the first round of beers. He introduced you to your wife and got your kid in the best private school. He truly is a gentleman and a scholar, and there isn’t a better football fan in the world, win or lose, when it comes to class, grace, and dignity.
The other kind is this guy. Unfortunately, there is strength in numbers.
"It's one thing to grab an extra shampoo bottle off her cart, but I draw the line at actually raping hotel maids." - Norm MacDonald
by TRMNole on Nov 11, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
this
Exactly this. This guy is EVERYWHERE. Shame because there is a small core of decent cane fans.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 2:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He is the 99%...of Cane Fans.
Everybody relax, I'm here.
by NOLEmercy3 on Nov 11, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ya..um...that fan doesnt exist, hes the 1% of UM "fans"
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by NorFla_Nole on Nov 12, 2011 2:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is truth.
That describes my Canes buddies. They are my friends and they actually went to UM. Most of the rest, those benighted bandwagon riding losers who infested South Florida when UM was doing well, did not ever go to UM and probably could not even spell UM if called upon to do so. They were everywhere, but now the spraying and other eradication measures appear to be thinning out their numbers.
Too bad you couldn't get his British Knights in the photo.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
gonna say no
only because it’s almost guaranteed he rides a crotchrocket
by ArsonistSavior on Nov 11, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Or the wifebeater
That you just know is lurking under his Bernie Kosar throwback.
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
82,000-83,000
F the Deacs - Notre Dame, Rutgers and UConn to the ACC
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MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Miami is sold out, so...
I imagine it’ll be 82,300+ Let’s go with 82,740.
GO NOLES!
FEAR THE SPEAR!
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with a solid 374 people wearing UM stuff.
hopefully that doesnt take away from home field advantage
"However, I say, let UM burn." -onebarrelrum
When you say "UM stuff"
Do we include inside out Dolphins jerseys?
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Miami-Dade Dept of Corrections jumpsuit is more like it
Miami fan: “Check it out… it’s orange! Awesome!”
I am what time, circumstance, history, have made of me, certainly, but I am also, much more than that.- James Baldwin
Miami will be a few thousand, but I'm thinking they will be spread out all over the place.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
New day, better mood
But I still don’t see this being an all too competitive football game. 21-10 at halftime, backups in late 4th Q, and 41-23 final. This Miami defense could not have asked for a worse matchup for their linebackers and secondary (yay Rashad Greene), and unless they can step up their mediocre sack numbers BIG TIME, we shouldn’t be punting more than a few times.
"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher
I'm picking Miami. FSU sloppy. Reid fumbles a punt.
EJ throws a costly pick. FSU has another awesome 3rd quarter and it has FSU trying to play catch up in the 4th. Fisher decides to kick a field goal or two instead of going for it. This is easily the best (read most talented) team FSU has faced since Clemson. FSU has beat up on some really bad teams after the Wake debacle. Hope I’m wrong but heart breaker,
Miami 31
FSU 27
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
I haven't been this nervous since before the Wake game.
I’ll just repeat myself and say I can’t even make a prediction in this one.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
yeah this is a tough game to predict
I think if FSU can play their style of football in all phases then we should win this game.
Defense: Force UM to 3rd and long and passing downs. UM doesn’t do well in 3rd and long
ST: Pin UM back and force them to drive the length of the field.
Offense: Doesn’t do too much takes advantage of good field position from ST and defense. Although with UM not having a good defense if might be a good idea to try and jump on them early.
fsu has beat up
On some really bad teams. As they should, but not convinced they will look that good against Miami’s size. Defense will be good but not top 10 performance or close to it. Think it might be a pretty heavy dose of reality this weekend.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 1:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
man i hope you're wrong
but i’m feeling the same way..
by ArsonistSavior on Nov 11, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure of the exact number
But the team that scores first has won something like 15 of the last 17 or 18…
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 6:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ooh, stats! I got one: team that travels farthest has won the last 5
(I couldn’t say “team that wasn’t home” because, well, you know…)
It's scary how samilar this year is to last year.
Last year we lost to OU so bad we fell way out of the top 25 (equal to this years 3 game losing streak). Then we turned around and man-handled some scrub teams (Wake, BYU, and UVA last year, Duke, UMd, NCSU, and BC this year). Everyone saying before Miami we haven’t beat anyone, Miami’s big up front, etc. Then we blow them out.
Not saying I expect a blowout, but it’s eerily similar.
For other scary similarities between a 2010 and 2011 team see: Florida
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
by FTSNole on Nov 11, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've got a similar feeling...
Hope I’m wrong but heart breaker, Miami 31
FSU 27
FSU hasn’t beaten any good teams and that OL has me worried. I’m thinking extreme low scoring with Hopkins getting bit by the curse…16-14 the EWE.
Gripper
Tommyhawk Nation: Bobby Bowden is the all-time ACC leader in conference titles, conference wins, total wins, winning percentage, bowl appearances & wins and owns the longest conference winning streak.
No clue what statistical evidence
You’re basing that on. No way Miami is the defense that shuts down this offense. And Reid? Have you watched him the past two years against the Canes?
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 7:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’m right there with you on the Reid muff. Same goes for EJ’s wild option pitches. If there is a week that will go wrong, it’s this one. No real explaining it but breaks in this series seem to go 75% for Miami.
Reid will ball out tomorrow.
Mark it down. Also calling a TD pass by Christian Greene. We’ll trade blows early, but we’ll steal the momentum and never look back. 37-20 Noles.
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm are you going with the reverse
psychology OBR? Jimbo has said the team has had a great week of practice let’s just hope it translates to the field.
"The helmet doesn't make you, you make the helmet"- Jimbo Fisher
Formerly known as MattChampNole12
by Matt Champion on Nov 11, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Beating Up Really Bad Teams Badley...
is exactly what GOOD teams do. I think the past four games are just what the doctor ordered. Teams that allowed us to find a rhythm and cut our teeth for this year. FSU-Miami talent level is the same. FSU-Miami size is the same. FSU-Miami consistency…different. We have found much more consistency overall than they have as of late. That will be the difference. I think we will all be pleasantly surprised with our defense and get about what we have figured with our offense. I like our chances. >>>=GO NOLES=>>
Never scare a magician, he might poop your pants.
But good teams also beat good teams at least some of the time
And we’re 0-3 against above average teams
2 of them are in the very good category
or is this sarcasm again?
by stevegrizzle on Nov 11, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
no sarcasm.
Injuries may have cost us the game, but we definitely have yet to beat a team as good as Miami this season.
True but...
We were missing our team’s leader. EJ is not just the leader of the offense. Plus our makeshift o-line has a lot more cohesion and we’re getting our main deep threat back in Green. We just needed time to find our mold…and we have.
Never scare a magician, he might poop your pants.
by NoleFear on Nov 11, 2011 2:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
see above
I think it does matter that have not yet beaten a team as good as miami, regardless of the reasons why
The reasons why don't matter?
F the Deacs - Notre Dame, Rutgers and UConn to the ACC
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Nope.
Scoreboard, record, blouses.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Pancakes.
F the Deacs - Notre Dame, Rutgers and UConn to the ACC
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MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Swizzle sticks
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
reasons? They are plausible excuses for why we lost (that I also happen to believe in)
but its not a trivial statement to say that we haven’t beaten a team as good as Miami yet this season, and that other good teams have beaten us in close games.
EJ is our bell weather.
Noles 31-24 if Manuel stays healthy.
If EJ gets hurt the Canes 31-24 and Al Golden uses the extra win on his resume to get the Penn State job. FSU dominates the series for the next four years because of the resulting uncertainty in the UM head coaching position that negatively impacts on the 2012 recruiting class.
I'll be at the game this time. so...less destruction.
REC
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Really hope this is how the game goes...
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
lol
Thanks. Some of my better work. And with a names like yours, you are almost required to like it. Haha.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 2:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'm going to steal it to post on facebook
and troll some of my cane-supporting friends.
by ArsonistSavior on Nov 11, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
by all means, steal away.
You are using it for the right reasons and that’s all that matters.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nice! I'm trying to make a animated .gif of Jernigan
but we don’t have a good angle of him yet doing his signature celebration yet.
Everybody relax, I'm here.
HA
he does have some funny celebration. The twirling of fingers around the temple in the, “you kidding me? you gonna run right at me brah?” He also from time to time does a funny hop/skip thing.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
The 'spoon' move 'eating it up' is pretty good.
but yah, his ‘knocking em out’ is great. I’m a big LSUFreek fan and want to start making some in my spare time. Put a little NOLEmercy in the corner. I have a good one for our D-Line in my head right now.
Everybody relax, I'm here.
I think TN needs to send a couple people over to Nole Resurrected's place.
Just to be sure he doesn’t relapse.
by Nole2005 on Nov 11, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Agree, support group time.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 11, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I concur
What is the definition of safe sex down in Gainesville?
Placing signs on the animals that kick.
by ValdostaNole on Nov 11, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'm seriously worried
But I’m always worried about Miami and probably always will be.
Last season Jimbo had something extra in the rivalry games. We showed up ready to play a Miami/FSU game, and the Canes did not. Then we showed up with intensity in the UF game for the first time in forever. If we can bring that same focus this year I think we’ll be ok, but who knows if we can with all the new faces?
Miami will always scare me, I agree
But was last years result against UF and UM really as much about intensity or being better at alost every position? Because we were, and still are this year. I will concede that Miller and the OLine are good, but the rest of the team simply isn’t that good. Home field advantage and a focused team on a hot streak sound like a good recipe for victory to me.
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 7:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
in the 1st one he just goes into the past
ref fail
by stevegrizzle on Nov 11, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
depends on your frame of reference.
he did travel to the future from the perspective of 1955.
Free Market Anarchists do it voluntarily.
He traveled back to the future
So it would only be relevant if he had somehow traveled back to our time and need to get back to his time in the future, in which case he would not need to know the outcome.
Unless of course he changed something that could have unimaginable consequesces, but if he did that would he already know about the changes he made in the future since it already happened?
Hmmm, need to think about this some more.
by stevegrizzle on Nov 11, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
haha
that reminds me, yesterday I saw a DeLorean in a parking lot. I was thinking “oh, cool, you dont see those everyday”
then I realized the owner standing next to it had a mullet, aviators, half buttoned up shirt and gold chains.
I think he actually traveled time
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by NorFla_Nole on Nov 11, 2011 2:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hellz yeah!
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
Probably pretty good, as are the odds that Jimbo tries some dumb trick play when we don’t need to run one and it crashes and burns.
I think Shannon and Co. spent their entire game planning
worrying about the one or two tricks Jimbo would use….which might help explain why the other ~60 plays caught them by complete surprise.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think we have a trick play
Drawn up with Christian Greene that we’ll break out and score on tomorrow. That’s my off the wall call anyway.
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 7:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That works for me.
NOL’s responsibility on the trick play will be to replace in the phantom divot at the two yard line that has prevented Christian from scoring. NOL caddied for his Grandad and has the experience to do that, but he has never been given that responsibility in a game situation.
throw at Reid all game
no matter who he’s covering
that would be smart and cute
"Baby Ducks, on 2--ready.......break!!"
something cute
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Good Luck Noles
I, like most, am very leery about our D and their ability to stop anyone with a pulse. I think this is a huge hill to climb and the game will be close. I can see us possibly winning but not likely winning if that makes sense. I think I am much more confident in at least covering though.
Bjoern being interviewed on Cameron right now
So glad we got this guy. He sounds like an NFL vet when it comes to preparation and focus.
So glad we still have him for another year.
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
its amazing how many SEC friends of mine
Ask about Werner. They all wanna know where we found that stormtrooper of a DE and what his story is. I just tell them he’s the kind of talent that elite programs identify and target before everyone else, thus never missing an opportunity to rep the Noles to the Trolls.
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 7:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rep the Noles to the Trolls...
stealing this and using ad nauseum on all social media.
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
You're welcome.
Before we dive into this preview, let’s make sure to say a big Thank You, veterans!
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Great, accurate preview Bud
You nailed it by explaining that FSU would be well-served to get a big lead early, forcing Miami to abandon the run game. This will put the U into 3rd and long situations which could not only force J12 to return to his old turnover-prone self but will also inevitably lead to the Canes’ defense being on the field more — a win/win for FSU. This is why I was so adamant about Miami needing to score a lot early in this game in the “J12 Says FSU Talks Too Much” thread the other day.
I expect a fun, high-scoring game. However, Miami’s porous defense will be its downfall. Sean Spence — whom I fully expect to have a big game and get some hits on EJ — simply can’t do it alone. 41-34 Noles.
Gotta be honest here.
Not really feeling like this is anything other than just another game. I mean, almost feels like the rivalry thing is dying.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 11, 2011 6:55 PM EST reply actions
Rivalry alive!
Go noles! Scalp tha canes!
Never scare a magician, he might poop your pants.
by NoleFear on Nov 11, 2011 7:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My older bro is a cane fan…seeings how we are from SoFl. I love him 364 days a year. Tomorrow is not one of those days.
Never scare a magician, he might poop your pants.
by NoleFear on Nov 11, 2011 7:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This may be the last year
But I have always referred to this rivalry as “The Bloodsport” for a reason.
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 7:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree.
I’d rather it be this though than the first game (or 3rd) of the season.
You are more than the choices that you've made, You are more than the sum of your past mistakes, you are more than the problems you create, you are more, You've been remade - Tenth Avenue North
Orange is the most hideous of colors.
I hate everything that is orange, with the exception of oranges.
Really, can anyone give me an example of anything that they like that is orange?
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
No but I can add to the "dont like" list
The cast of Jersey Shore
by Widespread Seminole on Nov 11, 2011 8:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That was hysterical. I almost spit my Ice Tea all over my computer screen.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Nov 12, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Construction cones that warn you of the hole ur about to drive in. SUCKS when the orange cone isnt there.
Never scare a magician, he might poop your pants.
by NoleFear on Nov 11, 2011 8:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, that is very true.
But they are there to warn you of something that sucks, so I can’t say I am happy when I see them. I am, at best, happy I didn’t miss seeing them.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Nov 12, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
cream pops.
You are more than the choices that you've made, You are more than the sum of your past mistakes, you are more than the problems you create, you are more, You've been remade - Tenth Avenue North
Well you have blown a whole in my theory that (ALL THINGS ORANGE SUCK), but that is still a pretty thin list
And when weighed against all the things that are orange, and do suck (far too many to list), it is clear that orange is the suckiest of colors.
I am considering pushing for outlawing the color orange all together. Anything orange would then have to go before a tribunal of some kind to get an exemption to exists. For instance, Pumpkin Pie would, I am sure get a waiver with no problem. I also think we might be able to get it categorized as a different color than just “orange”. It is definitely not the same color as the orange that is in um, uf, or cu. I admit, outlawing the color might be a bit much, if we Crush da u to day, I will give the color a pass for a couple of weeks, but it will come up again rather soon.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Nov 12, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
The NCAA should enact a rule that provides that only schools with
names that rhyme with orange are allowed to use orange as a school color.
A #97 FAMU jersey with "Russo" on the back.
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I am sure we could get a waiver for all things FAMU, and the "Russo" would help too.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Nov 12, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
Further my thought above, and upon further consideration,
I can see the NCAA ruling that FAMU and Russo rhyme with orange. That would make as much sense as some of the other things that they have done.
I don't know how the hell you pronounce my name.....but it does NOT rhyme with "orange", lol.
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by coonhound on Nov 12, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
miami is not focused on FSU
While they will be pumped and come out hyped the Noles only have to weather the storm and not self implode. Miami really needs to beat next weeks opponent USF. Two losses in a row to the bulls will firmly plant um as the third or fourth best team in Florida.
by pb4957 on Nov 11, 2011 11:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Have to disagree
Quotes coming off the practice field are this is our super bowl, this is our bowl game. Have to think they are super focused for this game.
"third OR fourth"?
F the Deacs - Notre Dame, Rutgers and UConn to the ACC
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MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
How would Miami's Lamar Miller compare with Virginia Tech's David Wilson?
I watched the VT-vs-GT game Thursday night, and was very impressed with D.Wilson. If L.Miller is his equal, but with a better OL, then we should be very concerned.
Who would you give the edge to in: speed, quickness, power, and ball skills?
From what I have seen, they seem quite similar in those areas. What I have no way to evaluate, is the other aspects of their game.
How do they compare when the ball is not in their hands, or on the other 15-25 touches they get, that don’t make it to the highlights on Sports Center, or College Football Final?
Since most of what I have seen of the two of them has been highlights on ESPN, and not a whole game. It’s hard imposable to be able to make an accurate evaluation of either of them from the few plays a week I have seen. I know we are only playing Miami, and not VaTech. So to some, the questions about D.Wilson might seem pointless. The reason I ask is: I have heard it said many times that L.Miller is the best RB in the ACC. After seeing D.Wilson the other night, I got to thinking, if L.Miller is hands down better than this guy, we might have a problem.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
Miller is better, though it's fairly close imo
We need to bottle him up and make sure that the first guy at least gets enough of him to slow him down. If he gets into space with an sort of regularity, we’re in BIG trouble. I disagree with the notion that if we get a decent lead early that it will neutralize him. IIRC, VaTech jumped out to an early lead, and Miami went almost exclusively to the running game to get back it in. Golden knows who his best weapon is, even if the rest of South Florida is convinced that Jacory has become a great QB.
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