FSU Escapes Miami/ACC Refs
by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:07 PM EST
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The Florida State Seminoles beat the Miami Hurricanes and the ACC officials, 23-19 in Doak Campbell Stadium.
| Team Totals | UM | FS |
| Total offense plays | 70 | 50 |
| Average Gain Per Play | 5.5 | 5.26 |
| Fumbles: Number-Lost | 3-2 | 1-0 |
| INTs Thrown | 1 | 0 |
| PUNTS-YARDS | 5-226 | 5-274 |
| Average Yards Per Punt | 45.2 | 54.8 |
| Net Yards Per Punt | 24.0 | 47.4 |
| Inside 20 | 0 | 2 |
| 50+ Yards | 2 | 4 |
| Touchbacks | 0 | 1 |
| Fair catch | 1 | 0 |
| KICKOFFS-YARDS | 3-197 | 6-410 |
| Average Yards Per Kickoff | 65.7 | 68.3 |
| Net Yards Per Kickoff | 43.7 | 49.2 |
| Touchbacks | 0 | 2 |
| Punt returns: Number-Yards-TD | 2-17-0 | 3-106-1 |
| Average Per Return | 8.5 | 35.3 |
| Kickoff returns: Number-Yds-TD | 4-75-0 | 3-66-0 |
| Average Per Return | 18.8 | 22.0 |
| Avg Field Position | Own 19 | Own 35 |
Miami came play. That has to be said first and foremost. The very good Miami offense had an excellent game plan. Quick throws by Jacory Harris neutralized the FSU defensive front in the first half. Meanwhile, the FSU offense struggled mightily in the first half as E.J. Manuel (who is clearly injured more than FSU let on) seemed to have a serious case of the jitters. The young Florida State offensive line was routinely dominated. Miami's defensive front stifled the Florida State running game as EJ Manuel was clearly off and faced a ton of pressure.
Midway through the second quarter Miami had out gained Florida State 165 yards to 13 before FSU had even managed a first down. However, big plays from the Florida State defense as well as excellent special teams play kept the 'Noles in the game. After a methodical 18 play, 126 yard drive (with penalties), Jacory Harris facing pressure from Bjoren Werner, threw an interception with a great play by Florida State safety Lamarcus Joyner. This was one of three first half turnovers that kept the 'Noles in the game. And there should have been a fourth, as FSU was absolutely robbed of a strip and score by an inexplicable review.
Adding to the ridiculousness of the first half, there were 5 booth play reviews. One of which came on a play that was called an intentional grounding and then a safety in which EJ Maneul was clearly out of the endzone. The sold out crowd, which could clearly see that EJ was out of the endzone, went ballistic. Then, finally, there was a reversal after Jimbo Fisher went nuts. Thank you ACC refs for getting it right....
The Florida State offense struggled outside of a single solid drive resulting in a touchdown catch by Rodney Smith. Then it was time for Greg Ried to put the special in special teams. Florida State, clinging to a 10-7 lead, forced a Miami punt. Greg Reid would take the ensuing punt 83 yards for a TD after a lucky bounce landed right in front of him in full stride. Florida State, despite being outplayed in the first half, would take a 17-7 lead into the locker room.
In the second half, Florida State had to beat not only Miami but also an officiating crew hell bent on taking the game into their own hands. The Florida State offense and defense made adjustments in the second half. Bubble screens, and the running game managed to get the offense clicking, while the 'Nole defense adjusted and started taking away the quick throws.
With a chance to blow the game open on an outstanding kickoff return by Karlos Williams, the refs decided to take it away on what appeared to be a garbage call on James Wilder. Wilder, took his man and drove him into the turf. The ACC officials thought this was obviously not a very nice thing to do and called the TD back on a holding penalty. The FSU offense still managed to drive the field and score a FG.
In the 4th quarter it was more of the same. Florida State could have ended the game but could not convert enough 3rd downs to run out the clock on a Miami team that had burned 2 of 3 timeouts. Instead, by giving the ball back to Miami, it was the ACC refs that gave life to Miami's last gasps of hope. Late in the 4th quarter, down 23-13, Terrance Parks should have ended the game with a pick. That play was called back by a roughing the passer. True freshman Timmy Jernagin was a few steps late in popping Jacory Harris.
What followed, despite some of the worst officating in history, was just the cherry on top of a terd sundae. Nigel Bradham, who had a fantastic game (10 tkls, 1 tfl, one fumble recovery), was ejected for apparently hitting too hard. He crushed the Miami WR in the chest causing an interception by Dawkins. The ACC refs don't like hard hitting and Nigel was ejected. The game announcers on ABC called it a 'horrible call' and the ejection a 'disaster.' 'Nole fans agree.
After the Miami special teams missed the extra point the score was 23-19. Florida State would hold on to the Miami onside kick and run out the clock. It wasn't pretty, and the ACC officials made a game that should not have been in question interesting to say the least. FSU improves to 7-3, 5-2 in the ACC.
It has been 715 days since Florida State lost to an in-state team.
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TN got so many hits from me while I waited for this story
Clean hits, mind you.
Go tell it to Moses.
OK Nigel Bradham
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by NoleThruandThru on Nov 12, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Can't wait to see the film review on this one
Wondering how many plays the LBs were out of o postion in the first half.
What about reviewing the offense?
The entire team was UNPREPARED, UNINSPIRED, and UNDISCIPLINED!
That UM team had no business hanging with this team, even with the refs cheating for them!
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by SoCalNole on Nov 12, 2011 11:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Really? Unprepared?
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
They looked like garbage in the first half.
Not sure that was the game plan.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 12, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
The Oline hurt us the most...
EJ couldn’t get into a rhythm…
Jimbo, "EJ, I need you to be a nervous nelly, please out game plan depends on it."
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think we can chalk up 4 straight 3 and outs
to EJ’s nerves.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Key plays on first 4 drives:
http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=313160052
- DFree stuffed in backfield on 3rd and 1.
- DFree 19 yard loss on 1st down??? I don’t even remember this – did he fumble? Cut back and lose it?
- False start on 3rd and 7.
- EJ sacked on 3rd and 3.
So 2/4 we were in positive position on 3rd down and crapped the bed. We have a very poor short yardage game.
The odd thing is, with a mobile QB, that’s traditionally what I think of as an advantageous position. Why haven’t we seen more waggle/type run-pass option plays for EJ in these situations?
Use this instead http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2011-2012/fs111211.html
Good question on the using more boots/waggles
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
That's an awesome link.
So convenient having everything one on page.
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They were definitely protecting EJ
No designed QB runs, no options, not even a designed roll out in the entire first half. I agree with what OBR said above, that he had to be injured.
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
I'm with Bud on this one, Jesus, we smoked UM tonight
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I won't speak for him.
But I highly doubt he’s saying we smoked them. Not at all.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
disagree.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
Smoked them by 4? Really???
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 9:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think he's saying it should have been more if not for poor officiating
I didn’t think we looked all that great and I imagine Bill C’s stats will show that but we should have won by more.
I get the refs
But if we take advantage of their injuries and come in focused, we win this game by at least 20.
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 10:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah but at the same time
if they don’t commit silly turnovers and penalties we may have been buried by halftime. After that first half performance and the terrible officiating, I’m happy with any win.
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Solely within the context of the rivalry, I might even go so far as to say I’m happier with this kind of win.
Let’s see how the Canes like it when we play like crap for long stretches but hit a few big plays and win with special teams. A taste of their own medicine.
I'm not happier with an ugly win.
But it’s funnier when you realize UM fans think they could’ve/should’ve won it if they just didn’t “beat themselves”.
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I would say just outplayed...
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I do think Miami wanted it more
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well, at least at first
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
did they have swagger on their side? at first...
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swagga*
lets translate for the scUM FANS
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by NorFla_Nole on Nov 12, 2011 11:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
thank you for that assist
it wasn’t very nice of me not to include the bi-lingual information (or da 411)
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Damn straight they did.
FSU was not focused, at all. And really, Miami has not been blown out all year. They have fought hard in all games and did so this game. Not sure if anyone saw the interview with the UM players. One of their guys almost broke down answering questions. They played a hell of a game and never quit. Good for them. Al Golden will now get to level up elsewhere….
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Wanna bet they lose to USF and quit?
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I do not want to bet,
but I agree that they probably put everything into this game. For sure. Just not the same drive against USF. Though them quitting will probably result in a 4 point loss…
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I think they smoke USF.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just don't think USF is that good.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
i wish i had a camera for what the miami fans did on the side of our baseball field.
they put all their trash on the ground for pre-game. we went over there after to ‘encounter’ them and they had dumped all the trash cans in the area over and out over the ground. Miami is the worst. I pray PRAY for NCAA to bury them .
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*class attenders
"Kill a fly with an axe"
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* - online. 1 class. 2 weeks.
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Alumduates.
Wow that is awful. Eff that crap.
Had Miami fans around me for the game and they were (surprisingly) very good people.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
I saw this too
that side of Howser was a complete mess
They are trash (pun intended)
Last year at Joe Robbie/ProPlayer/LandShark/SunLife, all the Canes GED’ers fans left early. The parking lot after honestly looked like a tornado had gone through. Cars were keyed, trash was thrown everywhere, anything with FSU on it was ripped and trashed.
Quite literally, scUM.
Golden Chiefs parkng lots
Lot 4 to teh east of the stadium looked like someone had attempted to break evey bottle in the area after teh game started. My wife went to the car (through the lot) during halftime and said it looked like a war zone over there. Don’t know who did it, but presumably not Golden Chiefs.
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Confused Sports Radio Call In: I'm a Gators fan.
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we should seriously have police patrolling more frequently
every time they come into town. What an embarrassment.
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I think FSU came out overconfident.
Lamarcus spiking the ball. Greg thinking he can field a punt on the 1. Those things to me reek of overconfidence to me. A team that feels superior does those sort of things.
I’m no longer willing to accept “high risk/high reward” as an excuse for Greg Reid’s sometimes boneheaded play. No one should ever field a punt on the one yard line. He should either learn that (basic fundamental) or go play at North Alabama. If we don’t have a coach who can teach him the needed fundamentals (Eddie Gran) then we need to find one who can. Right now the kid has a billion dollars worth of talent and a ten cent brain. A part of closing that delta is coaching.
by Dauntless12 on Nov 13, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
It's not about coaching
He knows not to field punts on the one, he just chose to do it anyway. The bottom line is Greg Reid is a high risk/high reward player by nature. He is simply not a steady Eddie like Mike Harris. Honestly it’s not a bad thing, he just needs to better understand when it’s appropriate to take those risks… For the record, fielding punts on the one yard line is never acceptable…. Just don’t tell Patrick Peterson that.
by GradSchoolNole on Nov 13, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Sadly, I suspect you are correct.
It’s undisciplined and stupid. Fortunately it didn’t cost FSU the game. Since he “knows better and still chose to do something stupid” maybe the answer isn’t more/better coaching. Maybe Mr. Reid needs to meet Mr. Bench this week. (Not talking about Hall of Famer Johnny Bench.) Reid is now nine games in to his JUNIOR season. His stupidity is no longer “cute.” If he won’t take coaching, and if kicking his back side so hard he would have to apply Preparation H with a toothbrush won’t work, then let him sit on the bench until he learns to make better decisions with the football.
by Dauntless12 on Nov 13, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
He is a high risk/reward player.
Was the decision to field it at the one stupid? Yes. However, he did manage to get decent yards out of it before the penalty. Besides, how many times has he “stupidly” fielded a punt and turned it into an enormous gain? Fielding punts off of hoppers when there is a gunner in your face is never smart. And yet, it worked in the Gator Bowl, he saved our bowl streak 2 years ago with the return at Maryland, and he took one to the house last night that most players wouldn’t have even touched. Maybe you just need to lighten up a little?
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that was stupid. there were 4!
4! Miami guys right in front of him with no blocker support.
And you could have stopped posting after your first worthless post.
In case you weren’t aware, we don’t attack players on TN.
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Yet, you attack me as a poster. Interesting strategy.
First, I didn’t know you were the TN hall monitor or I would have paid you proper deference. Second, it’s not an attack on Greg Reid as much as it is the exposure of a disconnect between our mutual expectations. I expect more and think more is, or should be, available from a talented player who is being coached by a staff with excellent credentials. You seem to be happy with the status quo. We disagree, but I’m happy that you are satisfied.
I did not attack you as a poster.
Yet you did, by insinuating that the rest of my post was useless. When you say that a player should be benched/sent to another school, that sounds an awful lot like a personal attack. I agree that Greg makes boneheaded plays from time to time, but unlike you am willing to accept it. Not because I believe it’s the status quo, but because I believe he is at his peak. He will never be the kind of player who makes very little mistakes (i.e. Harris). You just have to learn to take the good with the bad, and I believe that our coaching staff does the best they can to limit it.
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Also, I apologize if I came off brash.
Your response just rubbed me the wrong way. Call it residual effects from yesterday.
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No harm, no foul.
We can all come off brash at times in this medium.
You were both warned to stop attacking each other. Thanks.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Understood.
My apologies.
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Warned, for that exchange? Really?
OK. Though I do feel a bit like Nigel Bradham right now. ;-)
(Note that we both “kissed and made up” prior to the warning.)
I loved Stanford Samuels' response to the Bradham ejection..
If he gets ejected, then I would have been arrested! Hahaha.
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Is that for real?
Even if he didn’t say that it’s hilarious!
by Dauntless12 on Nov 13, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha. Yeah, he posted it on facebook right after the call.
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Reid is going to take risky decisions,
and I think they pay off more than not, but fielding a punt from the goal line is just something you do not do
And perhaps you have said it better, and with less volatility than me.
Thank you for refocusing the discussion.
Reid is by far our best punt returner because he wisely hustles to catch the ball almost all of the time.
Remember what happened when we put someone else back there this year? They let it bounce and lost extra yards on the punt. Those hidden yards very important. See Alabama-LSU.
It’s been happening all season long, even in recent weeks, that the offense seems to lose focus/intensity at times and they struggle for a couple/few series. Seemed to come out flat today but then improved mightily when they came out for the second half. The defense didn’t have their finest night but against a very good offense five punts, two takeaways (should have been 3), and keeping that rush offense under 4 yards per carry (barely over 4 if count just the RBs) ain’t too bad.
Thankfully, special teams are a part of football.
Give an example of unprepared
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
Run right at their only good DL on 3rd and 1, only to get crushed.
How many times did we go after their Fr DE?
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 8:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No bubble screens till 2nd half.
Those of us that watched UM this year knew that should have been a big part of the game plan.
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 8:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
10 freaking days!
UM had 7 days to prepare and we had 10, yet we looked no different then we did with 4 days to prepare for BC!
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 9:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I should say no better plan and execution.
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 9:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
At no point in the game did I find myself saying "That's what they've been working on for 10 days".
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it troubling that we rarely have new wrinkles to keep defenses off balance?
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 9:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just you. The offense is very diverse. It’s just extremely limited right now because they just don’t have the horses in there.
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Not trying to be a jerk. I just have to believe we could have done a lot more to take advantage of their weaknesses.
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 9:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What would you have done differently?
I would have like to see EJ run more but I suspect he’s a bit nicked up.
Bootleg!
Get him out of the pocket with a run/throw option. That forces the defense to defend 3 options on one play. If you’re not going to run EJ, at least pretend like you will.
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 10:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Worried about blindside hit out of blind boot perhaps? I’ll definitely look for boot opportunities in film review.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure making him a statue in the pocket all game makes it less likely he will get crushed.
You guys tell me. Does it make it any easier on a young/inexperienced O-Line to get the QB out of the pocket 4-5 times?
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think bootlegging would fall under a similar category as running. They did bootleg a few times but a few more would have been nice.
by evenflow58 on Nov 13, 2011 1:14 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
So recruit the horses....
Jimbo signed a HUGE RB and yet never runs him (or Lonnie) on 3rd and short.
That isn’t lack of horses, that is horrible 3rd and short personnel management and play calling.
Yes, he doesn’t have the OL. OK, go recruit them. FSU has 1 committed right now and the board is very small in number.
Jimbo has had 5 years. Lack of horses? Lame excuse for Jimbo. I am waiting for him to impress, but nobody outside of FSU nation thinks Jimbo is special. He is very average.
Wilder runs into the back of his linemen
When you lose 5 of your top 9 linemen it’s hard to say your offense shouldn’t miss a beat, no matter how well you recruit. Back to back top 10 offenses in ’09 and ’10.
>>---l>
Better that than...
running Trickett on a QB sneak against Clemson or running a shotgun snap yesterday.
I think even with the right play and personnel FSU will struggle on 3rd and 1, but just get in the I and run Wilder and/or Pryor together and run straight ahead.
If Jimbo doesn’t have the OL after 5 years as OC…..I question him.
Miami’s nose guard is what, 355? Hard to root him out on 3rd-1 going just straight ahead. I agree third-&-short is an issue, but if Wilder was the answer I can guarantee you he’d be in there.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
If Jimbo doesn’t have the OL after 5 years as OC…..I question him.
Seriously? FSU had very good lines the last two years. Are you still not understanding the whole injuries thing? It’s easy to cherry-pick examples of questionable playcalls as opposed to looking at a body of work.
>>---l>
Very good?...
no. OK? Sure. But an OL to take FSU to the next level? not a chance.
That said, I LOVED Hudson.
They’ve been very good. Not sure what you’re watching.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
I mean the injuries. Injured QB, lost most physical receiver, 5 of top 9 OL (including 3 starters).
The horses are injured in the stable.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
True...
but I am starting to lose faith in Jimbo.
Sounds funny, but it is simply his inability to convert on 3rd in short against even mid level ACC teams.
FSU should have 3 or 4 300 pound OL committed right now.
I HOPE next year Jimbo proves me wrong, but I think we see more of the same honestly.
FSU had really, really good olines the last two years when they didn’t lose everyone to injury. No thoughts on that?
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
OK OLs...
didn’t scare anybody. FSU’s expectations at OL are VERY low IMHO.
And I’m done here. FSU produced tremendous offenses without a single NFL RB or WR. That’s QB, coaching an OL for the last two years getting it done.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Don't agree...
Yes, our offenses in 2009-10 were very good units, top ten. However, we had a NFL 1st round QB, and at least 3-4 guys who will play in the NFL on that offense. We should have a great offense with that sort of talent.
This year, our offense is extremely mediocre. As in barely top 50. Yes, injuries have hit us hard, but we are pretty horrible on offense, even with EJ healthy.
UVA averaged over 7 yards per play on Miami. We barely managed 5.
Ok, fair point, but...
EJ is always banged up. Same thing with Ponder. Why can’t we keep QBs healthy? Is it bad luck? Something else?
If we can’t start keeping our QB healthy, we aren’t going to win this conference and/or go to a BCS bowl anytime soon.
I have been wondering the same thing.
But I really believe it’s just bad luck. CP7s injuries were freak accidents (minus the “tackle” of course), and all of EJs have been following that path as well. Just really, really bad luck.
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Last year we had a great OL class.
Recruiting OL for next year doesn’t necessarily solve our OL problem. Our biggest issue at OL this year is injury, NOT recruiting.
You HAVE to recruit 3-4 OL...
EVERY year. Have to.
And, FSU brought in arguably the top OL class in the country last year.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
True...
but if they follow that up with 1 or 2 average OL. Then we will have the same issue in the future (a year or two staring freshman and not getting any push against mid level ACC teams).
FSU already has Alphonse Taylor (pretty good OL) and is firmly in the mix for Andrus Peat (top OT in the country according to many). Also looking at Goodman from Lakeland and a JUCO.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
IF FSU lands 75% of those...
great day for FSU. Those are tough odds though. 75%.
But if FSU lands Taylor and 2 out of 3 of those you mentioned. VERY nice.
If FSU just lands 2 total or worse just Taylor. FSU has an issue.
Jimbo has had very good offenses here.
Do you think they should be top 10 every year? No one is like that.
I was less than impressed with our offense, to put it kindly.
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Agreed. I like Jimbo, but...
I am really wondering how good of a coach he is. I know he has some stats that improvements over what Jeff Bowden had….but how impressive is that? I rarely feel Jimbo the better coach on the field….even in the horrible ACC. In the SEC, he would get worked.
He’s had back-to-back great offenses the last two years. This year we expected a dropoff, and it’s been even bigger because of all the injuries.
I still don’t know how people fail to appreciate the offenses FSU had in 09/10
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I do appreciate it...
maybe I expect too much.
I am just frustrated about getting stoned what seems like every 3rd and short.
FSU was the best 3rd down offense in the ACC last year
and by far the best on standard 3rd downs (short yardage). You have to at least consider the circumstances surrounding those troubles this year….Not a single OL playing the same position as last year, losing 5 of top 9 to injury, true freshmen, hurt QB, etc.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Ponder...
…was a piece of that puzzle as well. Overall, I like EJ, but he certainly is not as clever as Ponder in these situations. Ponder was (is) great on 3rd downs. Sure, the OL is part of the problem as well, but I also thing a lot of that is EJ not making very good decisions and/or not adapting to defenses on short yardage situations. Ponder was fantastic at that. EJ isn’t.
by EngineerNole on Nov 13, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
5 of top 9?
Injured: Spurlock, Datko, Orelus
Healthy (enough to play): Fahrenkrug, Sanders, Faircloth, Barron, Hart, Stork
Lovelady?
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Blake Snider and Rhonne Sanderson were MDQ in spring if I remember correctly. I assume Snider is one of the 5 to which Bud is referring.
Not sure how either could be considered in the top 9 for this year.
Maybe last year. Everyone knew Sanderson wasn’t going to be on the roster this season for a year now.
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He’s had back-to-back great offenses the last two years. This year we expected a dropoff, and it’s been even bigger because of all the injuries.
I still don’t know how people fail to appreciate the offenses FSU had in 09/10
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Jimbo is lightyears away from Jeff Bowden.
Look, take it from someone who’s been highly critical of Trickett for a few years now: The first quarter was a disaster, but this was not a bad offensive performance on the whole.
What screwed us was the officiating. This was not a four-point game. It should’ve been more like 30-10/30-17. We got jobbed and still walked out with the W.
Let me add: With injuries to OL, WR and — most importantly — EJ, we went in with Trickett and played Clemson and Wake down to the last possession. And we hung in until nearly the end with Trickett against OU. That’s phenomenal offensive play-calling. There are very few coaches who could’ve pulled that off.
I can bitch about Jimbo here and there. But he’s learning on the job, and he’s doing a damned fine job on the whole.
And what Stoops has accomplished in two years is nothing short of amazing. He’s taken us from a Bottom 20 defense to among the best.
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by Drew J Jones on Nov 13, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
How many times do I have to explain to TN that the bubble is not called. It’s a check based on how the defense lines up.
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My bad. Had not seen this before.
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 10:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And, EJ should have checked to it yesterday at least two more times (probably 4/5 more). I’ll note the missed checks when I see them.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Saw C. Green tip it twice yesterday
Took a step back in his slot position before snap and was leaning.
>>---l>
Yep
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Must have been near the goal line.
Sucked him out of his stance I bet.
(On a serious note, anyone else notice that on his big catch – crossing route, maybe – he looked like he fell down at the end, again… hilarious that a phenomenal athlete can’t keep his balance in routine situations.)
Bud. Do you find yesterday's performance acceptable with 10 days to prepare?
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 10:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
With EJ healthy? No
With him being unable to run? Sort of. FSU had no turnovers, but could have easily had two. I think some of the first-time players to the rivalry didn’t quite understand the intensity level needed.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I was at the game and noticed no option
and one boot where he had nothing but green grass in front of him yet hesitated while desperately hoping to see a WR get open. He eventually waited too long and ran for a minimal gain. I agree completely with EJ being injured. It seems like he tweaked that shoulder in the BC game again or something.
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by cerebralfish on Nov 14, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
i liked the 3rd and goal when apparently miami was in the huddle on that option left
and just blew it up in the backfield.. we can’t continue to “save” the option for 4th quarters and “special” circumstances.. everyone knows it.. just run the damn thing and if they adjust do something else..
by palmcitynole on Nov 13, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Worst one for me
3rd and 12, 20-7. UM calls a timeout right as EJ snaps it from the empty double tight set and you could easily tell from the guards that it was the pump-field QB draw to the boundary. Came out after the TO and ran the EXACT same play. You think the UM coaches might’ve said during that time to watch the draw? I understand the call because it was in FG range and Jimbo wanted to make it a 16 point game, but come on.
>>---l>
ACC refereeing is getting close to making watching games intolerable. They took it to a new level… that “misinterpreted” BS reversal on the “safety” call Lol, who are they fooling with that!
But it still always feels good to beat the canes.
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by FSUvaFan on Nov 12, 2011 10:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe they are this bad...
I just don’t know what else to believe. Maybe they are betting on games or the ACC just hates football so much they are doing what they can to screw the sport up. God only knows.
I do know this. The conference clearly doesn’t give a #$#. They don’t.
What puzzles me the most is the huge number of ACC fans who WANT to stay in this conference. Wait until FSU finally gets good enough for a national championship season and the ACC refs steal it from us. Me? I am over this crap conference.
Its really bad enough to start making changes. Ejecting players for legitimate hits?
The sinful side of me was happy to see the ref get leg-swiped early in the game. They’re just so bad I’m open to the though of it being intentional.
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SEC would be nice for FSU. Bad for my ability to consistently watch them.
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Yeah
But fans in that conference (of dominant teams like UA and LSU) bitch about their officials on a level equivalent to this. Granted, they take everything over the top, but even the seemingly intelligent ones bitch about refs.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Referee Fail
Complaining about officiating is rampant, every official makes mistakes, and every conference has their “worst crews.”
What you can’t have are three things: (1) the replay booth stepping in and overturning plays without indisputable evidence; (2) referees not knowing the rules; and (3) referees not calling evenly. The first two were obviously present tonight, which were compounded by some seriously botched calls.
My own theory is most botched calls result from an official going with his instinct rather than his eyes. I.e., he calls what he thinks he saw rather than what he actually saw. Off the top of my head that happened with the Bradham hit/ejection, the roughing the kicker (at best “running into” and perhaps even offsetting penalties due to the flop), and the Wilder holding on the kickoff return were almost certainly “think I saw” penalties, and egregious botches. Never mind letting FSU DE’s getting held.
When you have three brutally botched calls (and maybe more), plus referees nearly awarding two points because they don’t know the rules, and overturning a replay call without indisputable evidence, and they all go against the same team, then you create the perception that the calls aren’t calling the game evenly, which completes the referee failure trifecta.
The ACC needs to fix these egregious errors. Human fallibility is one thing, but tonight went too far.
by whodoes on Nov 12, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
Irony
Yet the major points are unaffected. But I’m confused about how the lack of holds on our DEs falls into the “think I saw” category.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Moving the football in the wake game
falls into which category? :-) Great read btw.
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I saw two obvious holding calls
on Jenkins in the first quarter alone that were not called. And that roughing the passer was total BS. the ONLY contact made was the kicker’s clean brushing the top of our players helmet as he was coming down. I’ve been in bed for over two hours and cant go to sleep I’m so upset about the officiating in this game. We beat Miami and I’m more upset than when we gave Clemson the game by undisciplined play on 3rd downs. Debatable undisciplined 3rd down play of course.
and the GERMAN too
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leave the ACC
If this is how the refs treat the standard bearer of the football league, LEAVE!!!! sec looks better and better
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by lawj on Nov 13, 2011 10:19 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I believe the officials or close friends of the officials had money on the game.
They wanted to keep it close so Miami would cover the spread.
Seems to be the only logical conclusion
I can’t think of any other believable explanation for overturning the pick-6 on the first play from scrimmage. Couldn’t let the game get out of hand right away. And then they seemed to everything they could to make it possible for UM to score at the end to keep FSU from covering the spread.
Maybe not enough grammar fails on TN lately
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by Dogrel on Nov 13, 2011 1:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Unless I missed it
you forgot about the horrible reversal on the first play of the game where Harris stripped the ball and Joyner returned it for a TD. I HATE the ACC refs!
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by ItaliaNole on Nov 12, 2011 10:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Any one know where I can see this game onlin
ESPN3 doesn’t have it. My mid-atlantic Verizon feed had me watching the end of WV-Cincinnati – a game no one here cares about (admittedly, it was close) instead of the start of FSU-Miami. I got to watch 6-0 FSU go up on the feed and then cut to a scoreless game Miami ball at the 1 and never see what happened.
And of course, there’s 20 minutes of child-rapist-U highlights and nothing about us in most of the highlight feeds.
by CelticPride on Nov 12, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
If it was planned to be on your ABC, it'll be on ESPN3 in a day or two.
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i dont even feel like we won
The refs took away anything good about this game
by rythefly on Nov 12, 2011 10:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Miami is losing a bunch of key players. They have been getting their rears handed to them in recruiting by FSU and UF and do not have the talent to replace the departed.
And this is before any sanctions hit
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the refs arent graduating are they?
by rythefly on Nov 12, 2011 10:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You mean flunking out?
Or transferring to North Alabama?
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
The refs will make every game that FSU plays next year in the ACC competitive.
MARK MY WORDS.
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by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No. But he’s wrong. 21 seniors on roster
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
He said it at least twice during the course of the game.
I hate the announcers we had but at least they pointed out the horrible officiating.
Hate? That's harsh especially when you compliment them.
Which announcer team would you prefer?
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I heard him at least twice.
I think they pulled a list up of how many FR, SO, JR, and SR there were and showed only like 13 for UM. My guess is that was just the impact players or starters.
Yeah, I heard it twice as well, "This Miami team is really young and can only get better"
They also said a bunch of other really stupid things but it wasn’t the worst I’ve heard.
by Nole Patrol on Nov 13, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
That's true
Most ESPN announcers are horrible because they dont do their homework. But Any faithful fan of any team would say that.
by jonesy1728 on Nov 13, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I still remember...
Craig James last year for praising FSU for developing Ponder into a quarterback because apparently we picked him up as a fullback.
It's unfortunate that our best announcer is a UF grad...........uggggg
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I don't think Palmer's as good as he once was.
I like that Kanell is getting much more pub.
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I like Kanell
He also replies to my questions on twitter. Seems like a good guy who knows his stuff; a fantastic combo.
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by Curtain Jerker on Nov 13, 2011 4:09 AM EST up reply actions
Most of the info they get is from the coaching staff
Golden and the staff probably told him they suck because they’re youg and that everybody should watch out next year.
by mcgrawfsu on Nov 13, 2011 6:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
along with
Fsu you needs to get bigger up front, need some 300 pounders, something to work on in the off season…..
Seriously F the ACC and it's Refs
Yeah, they said our DTs and LBs are to small?!?!
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 8:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Our DT's aren't massive and Telvin is small.
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I don't think he actually thinks this. He's just filling in time.
They showed the graphic of how many players each team had in each class. What’s he supposed to say, “This Miami team needs to win with 21 seniors, because they’re about to become a young team. And young and untalented is no way to get to bowl games.”
A hatch opened up and the aliens said, "We're sorry to learn that you soon will be dead, but though you may find this slightly macabre, we prefer your extinction to the loss of our job."
Surreal scene after the game involving the officials
The head of ACC football officials is Paul Rhoades. Call the conference headquarters tomorrow at 336 854 8787 and voice your disapproval. It won’t do any REAL good, but at some level they’d know the officiating is not meeting expectations. The on-field performance was abysmal.
After the game there was a near ugly scene as the officials were ushered to vans for the ride to the airport. One of the crew, not a striped-shirt but possibly one of the ones who oversees the chains, actually taunted the jeering fans from the safety of the van. Here this imbecile was pointing, laughing, rubbing his eyes as if to say “crybabies,” and worst of all, FLIPPING THE BIRD. Al this while wearing a hat and shirt that proudly displayed the logo of the Atlantic Coast Conference. Security did a nice job of whisking the officials away to safety and keeping an already ugly scene from turning tragic. That said, I’m so done with this bush league conference.
by Dauntless12 on Nov 13, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Horrible calls made throughout the game
But that call on Bradham was the worst call I have seen all year
by SanDiegoSeminole on Nov 12, 2011 10:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I am drunk, there have been many fixes and I think Bud will add some stuff.
REFRESH!
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GREAT
I was going to point out the obvious, but figures you’d come around. Appreciate the swiftness, understand the omissions.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
*figured
See there! I’m awesome!
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Don’t know what you took, but I don’t think anything will get past you now.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Reading Roids,
courtesy the Reading Rainbow. That guy was reading roided out.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Still enjoyable and true
Would change “sunday” to “sundae”
Also, the intentional grounding play was called a safety on the field, so it was only a reversal, not a reversal of a reversal
I guess it would be a reversal of a confirmation.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
I got it fixed. It's all good, was fixed, got mixed up in the Bud enhancement and my own
realization that I am too plastered to type.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
incorrect.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
grammar brother,grammar....brrrrrrrrrrrrrrpppp
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celebrating before writing is not recommended.
Moved onto rum…
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
i luv you too......parlay?
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PIRAAAAAATS, yes, parlay.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
well rum it is then.arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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best line of that garbage movie,
“WHY DID YOU BURN THE RUM!”
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
omg,for sure! I am a POTC Freak...will NEVER get sick of watching them
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haha, awesomeness.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
Never watched a single one. Depp freaks me out
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Luv luv luv Depp, not in a gay way either. Not that there is anything wrong with being gay,just luv the Deppster
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I will say this for the OL: Bobby Hart is improving
He still looks like a 17 year old more often than not (to be expected) but he is getting better. He made a few fantastic plays that caught my eye. I think he could turn out to be a great OT here.
LOVE Devonte Freeman. The Freeman/Pender/Wilder combination will be a lot of fun to watch.
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Mobile Rec'd
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by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 8:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Very frustrating officiating
In the stadium, we couldn’t see any reason, in real time or on the limited replay on stadium video, for reversing the initial Joyner fumble run touchdown. Did any angle of replay show any reason to overturn?
Terrible, terrible call against Bradham.
it was a catch tuck and turn
Bad call by refs
by rythefly on Nov 12, 2011 10:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It was he completed 2 football moves.
1. tucked the ball
2. turned upfield
then the ball was stripped it was clearly a fumble.
class of 99
ESPN3 has not posted this game
What did Nessler and company say about this? I actually have the highest regard for Brad.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Dont remember I was yelling to loud I seem to remember the booth thinking it was a bad call
class of 99
After that one, they analyzed other booth reviews, giving their own opinions, but there were subtle jibes at the booth review after that first call.
Millen even went over the whole “4 points”:
1)catch with your hands
2)pull to your chest
3)drop to your side
4)tuck into your elbow.
He said Harris made the receiver skip the third step, which is why the ball came out.
They thought it was a catch for sure.
The curious part is how in the hell the replay booth officials found indisputable evidence to overturn. The good call was on the field and the bad one from the booth, watching in slow motion from different angles.
Millen (total moron in my book)
was even saying fumble. Millen and that idiot of a sideline reporter were horrible all game.
XR27 is injured and he’s been the one covering Streeter. Let’s see if Miami takes advantage and passes more to Streeter.
Really now? The same Streeter you said was injured 10 minutes ago? Pay attention woman!
by geoffissiffoeg on Nov 12, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
+1
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-CoachColey
"FSU can't beat Oklahoma,Clemson and the refs. I rarely harp this much on officiating, but they were truly brutal. Protectionism at its finest." BUD-ice
I know it feels like a lifetime/lot of bad calls ago, but can we revisit the touchdown on the first play from scrimmage that was stolen by the refs?
The Miami WR caught it, made a “football move” and was stripped. Touchdown FSU.
The football move was having the ball stripped away
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Worst part
was they OVER TURNED the call on the field. Had it been called incomplete on the field, I might not be as upset about it.
by najabaas on Nov 12, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Agreed
And another upsetting issue. IT TOOK THEM OVER FOUR MINUTES in “official review” to screw it up! How can so many dummies be dummies for so long?
"Technical difficulties" meaning a call from ACC HQ
“Reverse the call, even Matt Millen’s calling you guys stupid!”
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
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"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Nov 13, 2011 2:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
"Technical Difficulties"
= not knowing the rules. Its pretty clear they don’t, with the whole “safety” fiasco.
>>---,,->
Scalp 'em Seminoles!
The refs were abysmal...that was ridiculous
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I've never been so pissed about a win
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by David Rohe on Nov 12, 2011 10:28 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Thousands of FSU
fans at the Doak echo you and David’s sentiments. This was the last home game I was attending so I wanted a win. I’d be a lot madder if we lost.
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by Matt Champion on Nov 13, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
That’s exactly how I feel too. I still can’t get over it.
Stay Handsome.
by andyprocombat on Nov 13, 2011 12:02 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yep I actually felt better after the OK loss than I do after this game.
1. Wake Burned the Sofa
2. Clemson Drowned in JD
3. Miami .Just frustrated and angry
4. OK optimistic
class of 99
the student section got oklahoma loud near the end
but I have never been so mad during a (flag) football game I wasn’t playing in. My girlfriend gave me the cold shoulder after the obscenities that I shouted during those last few minutes.
Stay Handsome.
by andyprocombat on Nov 13, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Get a new girlfriend. I'm sure there were several suitable candidates in the aforementioned Student Section.
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Disgusted
Is an understatement with my attitude towards ACC officiating. It’s getting to be absolutely horrendous.
by FSU5410 on Nov 12, 2011 10:28 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
Lifes a SPEAR then U TRIBE!!!!!
"We Are FLORIDA STATE!!!!"
"I know what you're scared of.... Its comin' BANK ON IT!"
-CoachColey
"FSU can't beat Oklahoma,Clemson and the refs. I rarely harp this much on officiating, but they were truly brutal. Protectionism at its finest." BUD-ice
I'll back you up.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
love it! rum all around then!!!!!!!
Lifes a SPEAR then U TRIBE!!!!!
"We Are FLORIDA STATE!!!!"
"I know what you're scared of.... Its comin' BANK ON IT!"
-CoachColey
"FSU can't beat Oklahoma,Clemson and the refs. I rarely harp this much on officiating, but they were truly brutal. Protectionism at its finest." BUD-ice
I'm way past rum. LOL
YES! WIN!
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
Damn it man! pace yourself!
Lifes a SPEAR then U TRIBE!!!!!
"We Are FLORIDA STATE!!!!"
"I know what you're scared of.... Its comin' BANK ON IT!"
-CoachColey
"FSU can't beat Oklahoma,Clemson and the refs. I rarely harp this much on officiating, but they were truly brutal. Protectionism at its finest." BUD-ice
ha ha awesomeness as OBR would say!
Lifes a SPEAR then U TRIBE!!!!!
"We Are FLORIDA STATE!!!!"
"I know what you're scared of.... Its comin' BANK ON IT!"
-CoachColey
"FSU can't beat Oklahoma,Clemson and the refs. I rarely harp this much on officiating, but they were truly brutal. Protectionism at its finest." BUD-ice
Blue label is the only way to go
There's another one: SMACK!
by Gator Slapper on Nov 13, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Had better
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think three or four teams are going to drop
Auburn is now 4 losses
Georgia Tech lost at 21 so they should be out
Cinncinatti lost to WVU so they will drop
and 5-3, 25th ranked baylor went into overtime to beat a 2 win kansas
That should leave room for both us and ND to get in
by Nole Patrol on Nov 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Good call. Give FSU/ND a ranked bowl game.
You know as long as FSU wins out…
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Texas sucked with their 5 points scored....they're dropping out
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
We shoud
but dont hold your breath. Apparently this game didnt happen, not a single sentence was uttered on ESPN/ABC about this game beforehand, and I’ve been watching Sportscenter for two hours now and not a single word has been uttered. Seems Miami and Florida State didnt play today. And as much as we deserved to win by double digits with our second half peformance. 23-19 doesnt look great over a 5-5 team.
Yea, I haven't seen our highlights yet.
It’s FSU/Miami. Where are the highlights?
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Hurts when neither team is in top 25
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
But I haven't see ANY highlights at all.
Not sure I even saw the box score without accompanying highlights.
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Have you seen any other highlights involving two unranked teams yet?
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
It's Miami/FSU
should at least get a mention.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
FLORIDA STATE/MIAMI
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You can just go read the AP story instead.
About how Miami gave the game away with turnovers. No mention of the 18 points we got screwed out of.. Not that I expected any.
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I think...
that the ACC refs have been reading TN and knew this was Miami’s last chance, so they decided for ratings, and maybe money to make it close. the only other explanation is that they are incompetent. But that can’t be, right. Hahahahahaha. Couldn’t even finish typing before laughing at that one.
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
Keep in mind...
5 weeks ago, we were 2 and 3 and calling for JBF’s head. Now, we just beat a rival in an ugly game with horrible refs, won over some more recruits, and legitimately have a chance to be 9 and 3. Enjoy the win and look forward to pounding Virginia next week.
"He doesn't know the meaning of the word fear, but then again he doesn't know the meaning of most words" - Bobby Bowden
by SeminoleD on Nov 12, 2011 10:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Granted...
but the refs should have at least bought us dinner first.
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
Or given us a kiss...
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
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"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Nov 13, 2011 2:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't say WE
The overwhelming majority of level headed, intelligent fans on TN and otherwise were not “calling for JBF’s head.”
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I didn't nor...
did some others, but if you go back to the posts after Wake Forest, it was atrocious and came from many.
"He doesn't know the meaning of the word fear, but then again he doesn't know the meaning of most words" - Bobby Bowden
Rec'd
Calling for firing CJF was absurd, and not nearly everyone was on board with that!!!
by EngineerNole on Nov 12, 2011 11:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Eh
Still not thrilled with Field Goal Fishers ability to prep a team. Great halftime adjustments though
by Nolesos Locos on Nov 12, 2011 10:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
only idiots were calling for Jimbo's head...
What is the definition of safe sex down in Gainesville?
Placing signs on the animals that kick.
by ValdostaNole on Nov 12, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like about half of TN posters were whining about EJ, Jimbo, and even Dhop
The gametime threads for the last few weeks have been obnoxious. Too many drunk fans whining about our own players.
by Nole Patrol on Nov 13, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
welcome to college football.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
People complaining about Hopkins are joking.
Except for some of his kickoffs. He seems to have streaks where his kicks aren’t that good. But other than that.
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Hopkins sucks.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
and Gran and a lot of others.
Some fans don’t seem to understand that we don’t have Andrew Luck play faking to Lattimore and throwing to Watkins every play. It’s EJ still has room to grow. EJ has natural abilities CP7 doesn’t. CP7’s natural ability was more in his vision and quick decision making. Some of that is instinct. Fisher has taken average QBs and made them great. With both the run and the pass, the O-line has been a major hurdle.
As far as the performance against UM goes, it’s a rivalry game. If some of the early calls went our way, there could have been some big momentum shifts early and the thing could have snowballed. Harris has much better stats this year than last year and I credit Golden>>Shannon for getting his team up to play. Still, the margin could have been significantly higher if not for the crap officiating.
by NoleLaw on Nov 13, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't get ahead of yourself
Go read the first and second quarter threads for the game.
People were still calling for JBF and Trickett’s heads.
>>---,,->
Scalp 'em Seminoles!
What happened to Jermaine Thomas
I was under the impression that he came around when they started running the pony set. Is anyone aware of what happened?
Go tell it to Moses.
He got EJ killed against BC, per Jimbo. And Freeman is better now
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
Yeah, I remember that, but I didn’t realize how one play gets you completely off the field. I’d say Devonta’s blocking and pickups have steadily improved. Running the ball, he’s on a level above all our options. Glad to see Jimbo give one back a majority of carries.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
DFree is definitely picking it up well
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
tons of potential
Heisman worthy his Jr year I predict
by rythefly on Nov 12, 2011 10:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Because that talent pool is going to get deeper each year.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
But who will our QB be his Jr year?
We will probably need to rely on run more.
My money is on Coker
Trickett isn’t mobile enough
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
We also have no guarantee he'll get above a buck sixty lol.
2011 BCS Bowl
2012 MNC
Eeeeeeexcellent
by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I talked to Devonta's uncle before the game
He said he’s going for heisman next year, but I don’t see Jimbo giving him that many touches with our depth in RB.
Stay Handsome.
by andyprocombat on Nov 13, 2011 12:04 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hell yes. I support this campaign.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
yep
that’s what I told em.
Stay Handsome.
by andyprocombat on Nov 13, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Good man. Devonta had some excellent runs this game.
I think FSU oline will be so much improved next year. GO #8!
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
loving me some DFree...
not to mention the best shortened names recently start with D. DHop anyone?
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
can't remember
how many times i said out loud “great blitz pickup” by dfree; definite improvement there
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
It's not just one play
Evertime he’s on the field for a pass play he misses his blocking assignment
by mcgrawfsu on Nov 13, 2011 6:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
that was more the straw that broke the camels back
Also, the talent level on this team is getting so high that there isn’t much that separates a starter from a back up. Barron was benched after two incorrect snaps on the day also.
by evenflow58 on Nov 13, 2011 9:08 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I wouldnt care if we ever saw him again.
I still havent forgiven him for that safety. You’re a senior dude! Dont do that!
Whats the most number of reviews in 1 game?
We had 7?
by BucsNolesRays on Nov 12, 2011 10:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't know but them saying that the review equipment
wasn’t working at the game was pretty effing fitting.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
It was the beginning of the 2nd half when they announced that the equipment wasn't working.
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They mentioned technical difficulties during the first review too IIRC
They definitely mentioned it twice. Once during a review in the first half and again during the beginning of the second half (to which you are referring)
Must have missed that one. The crowd was so amped up it was hard to hear anything.
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They mentioned it after the first review (don't remember if it was immediately afterwards or a few commercial breaks later).
But it definitely wasn’t “during” the first review. Not from what I remember at least.
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well right. they clarified that the review took so long because of malfunctions
of course, since the request to review came from the review official, how would he have known to request the review except that the review mechanisms were working at that point (at least to some degree)?
Ah, gotcha now, y'all are talking about on TV?
Because they actually made an announcement at Doak as well. The crowds reaction was hilarious.
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Finally saw a little freshman play from Jernigan w/ respect to personal fouls. Both were legit against him.
>>---l>
did you see Odell getting in his face for one of them? Thought he did it tactfully just holding onto his face-mask to get him at eye level, whereas a lot of coaches look out of control getting their players attention.
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You mean the roughing the passer calls? Man, come on.
He had momentum, he practically had made contact a half second after Harris had let go of the ball.
Pretty sure it wasn’t him both times…wasn’t the second “roughing the passer” against someone else?
He had 2 PF's
Believe the first was on a punt, and like FSUvaFan was saying, Odell was all over him. The second one is getting called for roughing the passer every time. Ball was out of his hand and then he put his head down and hit him. No doubt.
>>---l>
Probably right.
Just felt like the refs finally started focusing on that last UM possession, calling everything, real and imagined.
All things considered, I think plenty of guys have gotten away with far worse than what they called Timmy for.
You're notorious for bitching about officials
And damn, I’m not saying most of us don’t agree with you, but you come off as such a homer when discussing these legitimate travesties.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't mind the first one that O'Dell was in his face for.
Big UM dude was running as if he was going to jump on a pile on top of G5. Jernigan just stood there, gave a shoulder block and the Um guy flopped on the seat of his pants. I don’t mind Timmy protecting G5. The UM guy was the one who was running. I thought it should have been a no call.
by NoleLaw on Nov 13, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Roughing Was Easy Call
That was a pretty easy call to call roughing the passer against Jernigan on that final UM drive. Gets called every time, and really wasn’t close. Egregiously bad from Jernigan there. The hit on the guy earlier in the game near the pile was probably closer, although still a legit call (the key is whether the refs call those hits evenly, and I don’t think they did).
Carradine had one I thought.
All of them were legit.
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The Carradine one was 50/50.
Wouldn’t always get called. Thought it was pretty bad that they called that AFTER the bogus Bradham call. Should have been looking for excuses to make things right.
Give an ACC ref the slightest excuse throw a flag
and they will do exactly that. Very undisciplined plays on our part. Legit calls in my book as well. Must play smarter
by westcoastnolefan on Nov 12, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
As a Seminole Fan,
I sometimes have to step back and ask myself, “Did the refs really have a direct impact on the outcome of the game?” Most games I say no, that my one sided views are just emotionally elevated because I favor one team so greatly. Today I was wrong. Absolutely pathetic officiating for the players, teams and fans. The ACC should be ashamed.
Hit refresh!
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I also had to go back and fix 1000+ grammatical errors.
Good times.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
I was chalking it up to being pissed off at the refs...
righteous anger posting so to speak?
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
I actually had a meltdown, fast forwarded to the Nigel hit and had
a full on meltdown flip out.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
giving you the mental benefit of the doubt, but yeah, if I hadn't been at work....
I’d have been jumping up and down and wouldn’t be able to type what I was thinking
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
Anyone have a quick thought as to why we are struggling with -and-1 runs?
this is getting out of hand. FB dive is not hard. QB sneak is not hard.
Yes.
1. EJ is hurt. FSU hid it well in its official remarks.
2. Lost 5 of 9 top OL since spring, including 3 starters
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Understand if that's the case on 1 (which explains lack of option in this game) But explain no 2 to me.
I know the OL is beat, but isn’t -and-1 nothing more than “man-up and push the guy in front of you backwards”? Does it really get complicated to the point that experience matters?
Depends on the play call, but one of your really important push guys is true frosh center
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I believe Barron
was replaced after E.J. got the intentional grounding call.
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by Matt Champion on Nov 13, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
*after he snapped the ball before anybody knew what was happening
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Did you see the replay of that?
EJ didn’t have his mouth piece in (he was making calls or whatever) then Barron hiked it to him..while EJ was fumbling around with the ball he put his mouth piece in. Then proceeded to get tackled by 3 unblocked defenders.
Now that the game's over and we won
It was actually kind of funny watching him calmly put his mouthpiece in as if he knew he was going to need it because the oline didn’t touch ANYBODY. He didn’t even see the ball, it just landed in his arm. That EASILY could’ve been a miami touchdown if he doesn’t miraculously catch that thing…. which isn’t so funny.
by GradSchoolNole on Nov 13, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Believe you are correct
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Stork took over
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Nov 13, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Wow did not notice.
Thanks.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yep.
He snapped one too late and one too early
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
Ban our coaches from STA practice.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
lord knows its not for “making too many field goals”
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
AHAHAHAHAHA
painful.. but funny
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
Yea its nice to be on the home side
I saw E.J. warming up with Stork. Our offense seemed to do much better when he was in the game.
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by Matt Champion on Nov 13, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
I think
first home game vs. Miami, in the rivalry game, for a South Florida kid was a little bit overwhelming
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
ummm, yeah, totally agree.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
That's an excellent point
For some reason I hadn’t thought about the South Florida aspect.
by GradSchoolNole on Nov 13, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
You're right
I’m sure Barron will be a fine center down the road for FSU, we just needed to go with the more experienced guy in Stork.
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by Matt Champion on Nov 13, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
The fan commentary in the video is absolutely priceless
It’s a strange feeling, laughing so hard at a fan’s comments while simultaneously being so pissed off.
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by NoleThruandThru on Nov 12, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions
My Take on the Refs
I think Nevin Shapiro is still at work.
I was sitting in the South endzone
with Miami fans around me. EVEN they were saying the refs were blowing the calls… and I don’t mean against them.
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Added video. Hit refresh
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The ejection was the icing on the cake for my level of p'offedness
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
Was the ejection for the HIT
Or did Bradham (legitimately) complain a little “too much”?
Hit
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by NoleThruandThru on Nov 12, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Jedd Fisch seems to know what he’s doing. Wonder if he jumps ship at the end of the year to avoid the drop of the hammer.
>>---l>
Yeah, he did a nice job. Anyone still doubting Miami’s offense?
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I was surprised at how well they were able to sustain drives
Was the first time FSU had been up double digits at half time and thinking we got our butts kicked
by CelticPride on Nov 12, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Their oline played very well.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
The refs? They helped them enough.
by rythefly on Nov 12, 2011 10:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, FSU was lucky to get this win.
Why they decided to put Morris in for number of plays is beyond me. Very strange.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, with two TDs taken off the board, not sure lucky is the word I would use
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
True, but that was all special teams.
Offense was useless.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Basically no Greg Reid TD and
no Pick in the endzone by Joyner and FSU has an L.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
The BS bradham hit gave UM 6 pts tho
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Nov 12, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
oh I agree,
but the whole first half, to be dominated like that…
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, my feed cut out some time in the second qtr and got it back at half time, thoroughly shocked to see us up by 10 at the half. First half we got owned.
Would wonder though if staccato nature of the game with the reviews hampered our offense, UMs too even.
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by PalmAireNole on Nov 12, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Correct. The ball was intercepted by Jenkins on the Bradham KO. So we coulda run out the clock at that point since UM was out of time outs.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Dawkins I think
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Yep Dawkins.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
You can say that about any game though.
If x didn’t happen then we would’ve won/lost. The offense definitely wasn’t up to par, don’t get me wrong, I agree with you. But the beautiful part about football is that there are three segments to the game. 2 of them were very good to excellent and the third, while struggling, didn’t do anything to ruin the efforts of the other two segments.
by GradSchoolNole on Nov 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
But special teams usually what? 15 percent, less?
Even with that punting and that offensive output, teams are most likely to lose. Turnovers by Miami and the fact that FSU held onto the ball/special teams were really the difference.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
One was defense
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
True.
Didn’t watch that play before writing, but from what I have read, that should have been an FSU TD.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
My point is this. The offense is actually doing better than I would have expected if you had told me all the ridiculous injury luck it has experienced.
Team game, and FSU’s defense is healthy and talented and should dominate. I was elated with the defensive effort.
Special teams too.
When one element of the team goes down, the other two better not. And they didn’t.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. But Virginia 7 plus yards a play against Miami...
This was still disappointing. Especially 3rd and short….still.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Miami v. Va. not a rivalry...just saying
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
Don't care.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
not disagreeing, jus saying is all...lol
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
haha, no worries.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
In TOTAL agreement OBR!
I don’t think it’s unrealistic to think we should have been better O then that, especially in the first half.
2011 BCS Bowl
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Eeeeeeexcellent
by SoCalNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Virginia game was Not Miami's season game/superbowl
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by Seminole4Ever on Nov 13, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
stripped 2 td's from us, added one to them with the Bradham hit.
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by PalmAireNole on Nov 12, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
And what came of that BS "roughing the kicker" call that sustained a drive?
I honestly can’t remember.
He hit him, should have been a 5 yard penalty. He did barely nick him.
FSU was still able to get a 3 and out. 2 three and outs in a row…
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I thought incidental was removed from the college game
either 15 yards or nothing
Doesn't matter, if you hit a punter in the leg,
incidental or not, they will call it. And he hit it, barely but he hit him.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody posted something from the NCAA rule book in my "worst officiating ever" thread that said incidental contact is no penalty.
Of course I’ve never, ever…ever, ever, ever seen this called.
But it’s something I’m not 100% sure about.
Didn’t they call a personal foul here, though?
There is not allowed to be any contact.
You can’t get in the kicker’s way where his kicking motion hits you unless you block the punt.
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why did they not call it when Powell was hit in the endzone punt?
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by Seminole4Ever on Nov 13, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
This happened right in front of my seats, and even the Miami fans in the section begrudgingly admitted that the non-call on the Powell hit was identical to the one called on us.
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't notice that one. Hmm...
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Lucky? Come on, son.
The refs stripped us of two TDs, at least. And kept more than one UM drive alive.
Our offense definitely didn’t look that great, but…lucky is not the word that comes to mind to describe this win.
Yep
Lucky is a word reserved for games where you don’t get screwed.
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by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Not to me, FSU was dominated outside of special teams.
200 or so yards to 80 in the first half….
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Keep in mind that they got 60%+ of that one one drive due to penalties.
Context matters.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
The last drive right?
Yes, it was garbage.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I bet
If you ask many fans who watched this game, they would not acknowledge nor notice how well they played today against our stellar defense. I would have thought F/+ pretty much established their ability before this game.
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by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Still doubting Jacory Harris
He’s gotten better but still makes horrible decisions under pressure
by Todd F Packer on Nov 13, 2011 12:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
His receivers flat out dropped like 4 or 5 balls, too.
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Most of our receivers' balls have yet to drop.
#kids
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yea but they sure have been dropping deuces on opposing defenses
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Do you mean they're still kids?
Or do you mean you’re still kidding?
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Both.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
They were wide open most the time.
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(Throws a flag) There
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by FSU on Nov 13, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'll give him that he's improved
However, 2 would be INTs on their final drive negated by penalty looked a lot like the Jacory of old.
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
don't doubt them,
But our D handled them quite nicely!
by ChiefOceola on Nov 13, 2011 12:53 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Something needs to be done about these ACC officials...
…But nothing will be done.
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by WinstonSalemNole on Nov 12, 2011 10:48 PM EST reply actions
ot
Going to bucs game tomorrow. First NFL game.
by rythefly on Nov 12, 2011 10:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Bradham hit
Lost in all the uproar of nigel’s hit was the incredible play by Dawkins!!! So freaking athletic to be able to turn, spot the ball, and pluck it out of the air before it hit the ground.
by gabejones on Nov 12, 2011 10:51 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Film review mental note
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Some luck there. Right spot right time.
by rythefly on Nov 12, 2011 10:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely, he had a freakin PICK!
Two friggan picks in a row that should have ended that game negated by penalties.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
No, the one on Jernagin was totally legit.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Or not. I've seen plenty of hits come later that aren't called.
It probably was a legit call, but given the sample of the officiating in this particular game, it felt pretty convenient.
He took 2 plus steps before blasting him.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Shades of Corey Simon.
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Al Golden has to be sweating harder than Charlie Weis on a treadmill when he thinks about the years to come at Miami....
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by NoleThruandThru on Nov 12, 2011 10:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Or he could got to Penn State
Which somehow has become a worst job than da U.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Fixed that for ya
Al Golden has to be sweating harder than Charlie Weison a treadmillwalking when he thinks about the years to come at Miami….
He used a cane today
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
wait for real?
Bwhahahaa.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I saw Weis using a cane today also.
All joking aside I don’t see the man living another 5 years without some changes being made.
by fsunole23 on Nov 12, 2011 11:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gastric bypass?
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Nooo?
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All joking aside
When people use the phrase “800 pound gorilla in the room” they’re talking about Jobba the Coach, I mean Charlie Weis.
by Todd F Packer on Nov 13, 2011 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He used a cane?
Good for him. When he was on Star Wars Jabba the Coach couldn’t even walk
by Todd F Packer on Nov 12, 2011 11:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
But his little slave princess was tasty.
Rec, btw.
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How the Hell did he find a cane that could support that much weight?
That cane must be made out of same material that the black box on a jet is made from
by Todd F Packer on Nov 12, 2011 11:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
LOL, effing REC
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
A sugar cane.
He used a cane today
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by NoleThruandThru on Nov 12, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, REC.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
What’s up with dhop missing the fg before the half? That was easy.
by rythefly on Nov 12, 2011 10:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That....
pissed me off. FSU offense was gifted minimum 3 points. BLEW IT.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
According to the AP recap of this game
In Wide Right I, “The game was played four days shy of the 20th anniversary of Miami’s 17-16 win over the Seminoles in a 1991 matchup of unbeaten teams ranked No. 1 and No. 2. Florida State’s Gerry Thomas missed a 34-yard field goal in the final seconds after hitting his first three that day.”
Today, Hopkins missed his first, and then hit his final three. A nice little reversal, and we won this time.
by Invictus13 on Nov 13, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the worst that happened kinda turned into the best thing.
Felt like the crowd and team were pretty flat. The refs didn’t help but when they ejected Nigel for one of the best and cleanest hits I have ever seen. Doak came alive! It was us against all of them. It was like the juice got turned on…loved it!
The Acc better overturn that ejection. Next week is homecoming and senior night. Nigel play!
by pb4957 on Nov 12, 2011 10:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I thought
that a suspension after an ejection was the coach’s or conferences decision. Is that an actual rule?
Not sure, but heard on the radio that he will not be suspended for the Virginia game.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like
even if it was a rule, Jimbo would fight to let Nigel play. He hates how those aren’t reviewable, and I saw him pointing at the jumbo tron (might now refer to as Jimbo tron) while screaming at the refs.
IT WAS BULLCRAPPY
he better play.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
If that's Jimbo irate, can you imagine what Muschamp would have done?
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Muschamp would have gouged an officials eyes out and held them in his hands facing the Jumbotron until the call was changed.
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by CornNole on Nov 12, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
suspensions are for fighting
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by Blue Horseshoe on Nov 12, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
The Bradham hit
Reminded me of Greg Reid’s hit against that guy from Maryland last year. Greg wasn’t ejected for that hit, which makes me wonder about the ACC officiating even more. The refs are so inconsistent.
by maxdeezal on Nov 12, 2011 11:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
only it was even more clearly not illegal....
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Has any other player in the ACC been ejected for a hit..... ever?
Honest question. That was the most shocking element of it.
Not this year, not that I'm aware of.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Mathias Kiwanuka comes to mind for some reason but I'm not sure why
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by NoleThruandThru on Nov 12, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Just realized.. this is just like the Alexander Johnson ejection @Duke in bball.
Completely out of nowhere, unwarranted, WTF moment.
Only time an ACC crew has actually been suspended, that I recall.
Thornton destroyed them for like 30/15. But they robbed us of the game.
Think that dolphin-looking monster Sheldon Williams was on their squad, at the time.
Sheldon Williams shoved Johnson.
Both got technicals or something. It happened to be Johnson’s 5th and he was gone from the game in the final minute or two. We were up a few points but he was arguably our best player and it was pancakes and grapes after that.
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Johnson actually just threw his hands back, like "whoah,"
but they T’d him up. Genuinely, directly, cost us a trip to the tournament that year.
Here’s the recap.
Darnell Docket was ejected from the 2003 loss at Clemson
IIRC, He was just standing around the pile, a Clemson guy flew in and hit him in the back, Dockett fell onto the pile late, and was tossed.
This ACC officials thing goes back a long, long way.
An ugly win is always
prettier than a valiant loss. I’ve seen way too many FSU losses that looked like a great game. Give me a stinking, ACC refs foul up, offensive offense, ejected for no good reason win against a hated rival anytime, anywhere.
by Panhandle Nole on Nov 12, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
SCOREBOARD BABY!
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
And an ugly win against Miami feels kinda nice.
Think about it… they built their damn program by playing like crap against FSU for 3 quarters and then putting together a magical 4th to snatch the win away from us. We know exactly how much it hurts to look at game stats and see our team get the better of a rival, only to be denied by special teams gaffes. So enjoy it Canes, couldn’t happen to a better bunch.
by 38Noles on Nov 13, 2011 4:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That was the first time I got to see Karlos Williams in action
He looked a foot taller, 20 lbs stronger, and a full second faster than anyone else on the field during that run back.
I’m extremely excited about seeing him on defense next season.
Rhodes (boundary), Los Williams ("free"-strong), Joyner ("strong"-free), Reid (field)
sounds like a sick shell.
Especially when the front line is Jenkins/Hicks, Amp/Jernigan/Dawkins/McDaniel/Erving, Werner/Carradine.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
They’d better work with him on NOT getting an excessive celebration call (or whatever it is) before crossing the goal line. The kids is going to return more kicks and INTs for scores. Yesterday he went into his goose-stepping celebration a step or so PAST the goal line. That was fine, but any earlier and these flag-happy ACC refs will ring him up and cost the team 6.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 12, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions
Done.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 12, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Bad call on EJ
The article says that the refs got the call on EJ right. Wrong. It should have been ha distance to the goal from the original line of scrimmage, not on the one yard line.
by Doug Dandridge on Nov 12, 2011 11:18 PM EST reply actions
Thought IG is always scored as spot foul
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 12, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. It's a spot foul/loss of down because it "should" be a sack.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
Yeah
It would become something of an advantage to intentional ground otherwise.
Go tell it to Moses.
by FLpanhandler on Nov 12, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I’m still confused about that….
by EngineerNole on Nov 12, 2011 11:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Was it really IG?
I saw one angle from the endzone I guess, where there was a WR/TE in the direction of the throw, but since EJ was getting tackled it came up way short.
Most angles just show one WR in the picture and the ball wasn’t really going to him, but there was another over near sidelines that looked like where EJ was trying to go with it.
I don't think the ball reached the line of scrimmage. Did it?
by GradSchoolNole on Nov 13, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Doesn't matter if there's a receiver in the area.
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I thought 35 was close and that the hit effected the throw....
I could have certainly seen it not being called.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I was hoping that receiver was close enough.
But I didn’t see him until after the pass fell incomplete so I’m not sure how far/close he really was.
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Any official word
On how bad Rhodes is hurt? Contusions can be a long term injury, especially given that they are easy to re-injure.
Roses are red, Violets are blue, If it wears orange, Kill it.
It's on a weight bearing limb, so it'll be hard to work it out, I imagine.
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Rest him for UVA and suck it up against UF.
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and then sit him against the bowl team in prep for next year.
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He will have a month to rest it between UF and the bowl game. I want to win the bowl regardless of who we play so we can hopefully get to 10 wins again, provided we don't crap out a turd against the Turds.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
A thigh bruise should be perfectly fine by any bowl game.
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Not sure what you're talking about.
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Achilles though?
I’m not familiar with the details of his injury.
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I agree that EJ must be more hurt than CJF let on.
I kept waiting for the option. When I didn’t see it (OK, maybe once) I knew something was wrong. That and EJ seemed to be moving slower than usual when he took off.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
But this has to be something new, right? We ran him more against the previous opponents, and even ran him a bit on short rest against BC.
If anything, you’d think Miami is the game where we take the risk and use his legs to get the rivalry win.
I was pissed at how much we ran him in pretty much EVERY game after he returned from injury.
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so...
#’s 20, 21, 23, and 24 go down today…where do we end up?
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
I mean... we were already behind Auburn.
Can the voters be any more skeptical about us?
by arrdub on Nov 12, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ok, but Texas lost too...and they were 21 losing to unranked Mizzou
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
Near the top of the unranked I would guess
Many of the voters are only going to see that we beat an unranked, .500 team by 4.
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
We were like 27th and 29th last week.
A 7-3 FSU will be ranked I think.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
I agree that we should be
Just a lot of cynicism out there against us due to being overrated at the beginning of the year.
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not seeing much from the national media.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Anyone know where I can watch a replay of the game?
It’s not on ESPN3 for some reason.
Hey guys
look on the bright side, FSU finally came out of halftime and had a pretty decent/kinda good opening drive that led to points!! Although it kinda sputtered towards the end of the drive.
The thing i’ve noticed is that FSU seems to run the exact same play on the short yardage plays that got them to that postion in the first place. Would that be a play call from the coaches or is that on EJ making a decision/check at the line of scrimmage thinking the play will work again? It never does and I would bet FSU has lost yardage on 85% of these short yardage plays
agree, that was prob the best opening 3rd quarter drive of the year.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
i havnt read any other comments
with that said.
we all know the ACC refs are bad. “given him da bizness” , inching the ball forward, hell, even the “swindle in the swamp” we all know ACC refs are a joke, but this game took it to a whole new level. The officials robbed both teams of TDs and reviewed (and double reviwed) way to many plays. everyone knows these refs are crap and this game further proved the point. this win was, dare i say, bitter sweet thanks to the hijacking of the ACC refs
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by NorFla_Nole on Nov 12, 2011 11:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
A.C.C. = Atrocious Call Conference
Thanks for taking a dump on one of my favorite games of the year. What next ACC?! Would you like to kick my dog and sodomize my girlfriend?! Or vice versa?
by mountain renegade on Nov 12, 2011 11:35 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
given that they are ACC refs...
they’ll probably sodomize the dog, and kick your girlfriend…but then again, you never know.
blah blah blah...something witty and apropo...blah blah blah
by David Rohe on Nov 12, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Bwahahaha,
REC
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Two things that I think I haven't seen said yet
1. What a job by NOL grabbing the onside kick and holding onto it. The kick was perfect.
2. The roughing the passer call on Tank looked bogus on the replay. Led with his head but went right over the top of the ducking QB.
by TimScribble on Nov 12, 2011 11:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Almost forgot about NOL on that.
Props to Baby Gold. Was really skying up there to grab that, and unbelievable hand-strength to hold onto it coming down, and then in the pile.
Maybe volstud will tell us some stories about what atrocities were committed at the bottom of the pile… I imagine it was brutal.
The kick was perfect except the kicker was offsides when he kicked the ball. His plant foot was on the wrong side of the line before he kicked it.
Bud, please check it out during your review.
Another blown call by the ACC line judge who is supposed to watch for this.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Offsides by a yard
Not only was he off sides, he actually ran across the line and came back a little bit to get a better angle on the kick. I cannot figure out how the linesman missed that except that he missed lots of calls all day long.
RWHUGHESJR
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Leonard: What are Gators?
Henry Desalvo: Football. College.
Confused Sports Radio Call In: I'm a Gators fan.
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: And what do you have to say?
Confused Sports Radio Call In: You said that Gators fans don't have the guts to call in.
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: Your point?
Confused Sports Radio Call In: My point is that I'm calling you now.
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by NorFla_Nole on Nov 12, 2011 11:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
There were only 3 horrendous calls.
The Joyner TD. The Williams TD. The Bradham hit.
There were some holds missed in the 1st quarter but I quit paying attention to them after that point. Guess because I’m used to it.
The roughing the passers/late hits were legit. The roughing the kicker should’ve been running into the kicker. That would’ve left it 4th and 1. But they eventually punted on that drive anyways.
Our offense was as bad as the officiating, sadly.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
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Those 3 calls were worth 21 points.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 12, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Well, 18, right?
We still got 3 on the one? There were definitely some awful calls that could’ve absolutely lost us the game. But I feel like some people think 20 blatant calls went against us when that just wasn’t the case. ACC officials still blow.
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
I don't care about missed holding calls (unless it's really, really blatant)
it’s the ones that take points off the board or extend drives….especially late in the game with a somewhat close score.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
I care about them, but I'm conditioned to dismiss my concerns as a reality of our existence.
In this forsaken conference.
In all honesty, I think people in the GDT whine about holding a little too much...
There are some though, when Werner/Jenkins are getting mugged within 2 steps of the QB…those are the onest that make me go WTF
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
When a DE beats a lineman
And all you can see is the lineman’s hand grabbing whatever he can to slow him down from behind or wrapping his hand around the DE’s neck, I get irate. In a game of seconds, slowing down a DE who blew past you even the slightest can affect the outcome of a play.
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Scalp 'em Seminoles!
I was disappointed
in the offense today. We got stuck in bad field position for most of the first half, and I just believe some of the plays Jimbo called just weren’t executed well. Still, its nice to have elite special teams. They made all the difference in this game, and when the D adjusted to what UM’s O was throwing at us, they played well.
"The helmet doesn't make you, you make the helmet"- Jimbo Fisher
Formerly known as MattChampNole12
by Matt Champion on Nov 12, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
surprised that someone else saw this
i don’t hate clemson like most, but i felt that they were trying to put our “marquee” program in a position to win all day
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
Kind of sad that it comes to this though
How many other teams can legitimately say that they were “only” robbed out of 3TDs
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
if there's a silver lining...
it’s that this game is such a perfect piece of evidence that this ACC crew is completely inept. A giant smoking turd pile of a game for all to witness. Swofford has some explaining to do. FSU leadership had better throw down the guantlet.
Sadly, nothing will happen.
Under the present situation the officials are practically inviolate. Oh sure, the league can “apologize” after the fact, but that is so meaningless it is almost insulting. It would be like Jerry
Sandusky saying, “well, I told the kid in the shower I was sorry,” and expecting everyone to forget about what happened.
Here are my prescriptive measures for improving things (no one asked, I know): (1) Remove even the possibility of fining a coach for remarking on the performance of officials. Let the coaches speak their minds using any language they deem appropriate; (2) If the league isn’t ready to let the coaches speak freely, then the referee of the officiating crew should have to hold a post-game media conference, just like the coaches. That would at least make the head official accountable to the media for defending the calls made by him and his team. I bet such a post-game media conference would have been well attended last night!
by Dauntless12 on Nov 13, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
It would be like Jerry
Sandusky saying, "well, I told the kid in the shower I was sorry," and expecting everyone to forget about what happened.
No, it wouldn’t really be like that. Not the best comparison of events.
>>---l>
The simile is intended to imply that “I’m sorry” doesn’t work as a legitimate excuse in either scenario. It is not intended to marginalize the pain and suffering of the victims of a child molester. Then, again, I hope you knew that. If that isn’t the case I hope you will forgive my insensitivity. It was unintentional.
by Dauntless12 on Nov 13, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
It will count
It is UF’s only FCS game.
"The helmet doesn't make you, you make the helmet"- Jimbo Fisher
Formerly known as MattChampNole12
by Matt Champion on Nov 12, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Ejected.
Its like they don’t even know the rulebook. They just sorta wing it. They throw “penalties” out there and see what sticks
"Kill a fly with an axe"
What kills me is how delyed some of the flags are. the Safety was upon request of chickillo basically.
Then the return called back was only thrown after he had broke free.
class of 99
They're clueless. Might as well let UF fans out there to call the game
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Also important....
…to note that that flag was not only late, but thrown by the ref furthest from the alleged infraction, from out in front of Los. As if the moment he saw Los get free he threw it.
by EngineerNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
#UVA at #Noles 7:30 ESPN2 #FSU Senior day and homecoming as a night game. Yep.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 12:04 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Yea until our first TD pass is taken away because of “intentional catching”
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
LOL. cute.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
by FSU on Nov 13, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can you advance the ball on a pass if you point at EJ while he's throwing?
A Pessimist Complains About The Weather
An Optimist Waits For It To Change
A Realist Adjusts The Sails
by NavyNole on Nov 13, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Still worried.
Coming off emotional and physical game.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
I just think they're too one-dimensional.
Miami was a threat because they could run and pass… the widely reported #1 offense in the nation…. I don’t think Virginia is going to out-physical our D-line to get the run game going.
So unless EJ is really, in fact, banged up more badly than I am aware, then I think we’ll eventually roll them.
Blinks at your last sentence.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
i twitched at ‘more badly’
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
grammar wasn’t why I blinked
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
With an English Degree from FSU. I can’t help it
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
more badly = worse
if u want to keep it simple =)
lol thats what i was thinking
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
most worsterous
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 14, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Bud
Is this official? thanks. would be awesome!
by NolesHeatBraves on Nov 13, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
zYes
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome...
No way to end a home season than with a night game. Doak will be rocking
by NolesHeatBraves on Nov 13, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
AWESOME! REC!
TRAP GAME. FOCUS!
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Night game removes some of the trap element. sellout I bet
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Largest concern that
we’re emotionally ready for it. With night & homecoming — You may be right there, Bud.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
Way back in the days when I was still vetting TomahawkNation, and most articles were being written by some guy called FSUncensored, I found myself intrigued by a piece on Bowl-Game gifts. Specifically, the article focused on the gifts, or lack thereof, being provided to FSU football players by the Gator Bowl. I found the piece to be well written and informative with a curious note made by the author: “This article has been forwarded to the Gator Bowl Committee as we seek answers to the aforementioned discrepancies” or something to that effect. What a surprise it was to find the response by the bowl committee addressing the issues noted by the author!
I feel that it is time for Mr. Uncensored to once again seek answers from those in power and direct his attentions towards ACC officiating. We always say “The ACC won’t listen” but has anyone tried composing a concise indictment against this governing body? At the very least, it will prove therapeutic for those like me who have yet to don their tin-foil hats and still believe in the value of fair play.
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
Did you ever play the game, or we’re you a soccer mom’s dream!
by Caveman Mafia on Nov 13, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
lol I remember that article
I wonder what happened to that poster anyway ;) Now we’re just stuck with this Bud character
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Frank did the article
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
My most sincere apologies to Mr. D,
I believe a similar article/campaign is in order.
Did you ever even play the game? I guarantee I can coach my Little League team to beat yours 10 times out of 10.
Did you ever play the game, or we’re you a soccer mom’s dream!
by Caveman Mafia on Nov 13, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks, that was the story where I learned they were throwing in luggage trunks for the players at Craig James request.
For the dead hookers.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Just watched the fumble for a TD
that Joyner took back on UM first drive. HOW THE FUDGE did they reverse this!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!??! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDge.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
Announcers, "not sure there is anything to reverse this call"
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
You're just going to torture yourself aren't you
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
“disaster” Let the set in. The announcers on air called Nigel’s ejection a “disaster”
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
LOL, well aware of that,
included that in the post game.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Yea I saw. Its just…almost incomprehensible the level of ineptitude.
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
@ACCrefsSuck is growing. Sign up and sing along.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
It might just be something like that that gets me to sign up for that thing
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
65 followers in the first hour.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
alright. signed up.
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Just do it.
Even if you don’t plan on ever using it, the more followers it has, the more publicity it can get. It’s a snowball effect.
twitter is confusing at first
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
I've been a twitter monster now for a
few weeks now, still don’t have it figured out…
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
i just twitted (twatted?) my first tweet….to accrefssuck. no clue if i did it right
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
ah that sounds the least offensive
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
This exchange has so much win.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
he means “this crown has so much win”
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
Understand even less now, LOL
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
WIN!
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
It's a fun medium once you get the hang of it...
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
It feels like a fantasy land. I can just chat it up in single sentences with anyone in the world
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
And they can answer you back.
Although think before tweet and don’t drunk tweet.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
Ok i’m hooked already.
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Occasionally celebs will tweet you or answer you back or “Re-tweet” you
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
twitter, the great social equalizer
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
The Internet – Top 10 invention of all time.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
It's the printing press of the New Millenium
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Nov 13, 2011 2:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Al Gore is a freaking genius.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
I just "followed" you.
Exciting times.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
I’m famous!
FSUswaggerous
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
(Facepalm) You're going to be an addict now aren't you, LOL
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
never leaving
anyone know if that grocery delivery service has a twitter ?
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
Ok.. step away from the keyboard.
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
I'm lost now...
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
He’s about to get sucked into twitter world…Never to interact in person with real people ever again
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
People that use twitter are? twits?
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
correct statement.
#totallyworthit
HAHHAHAHA
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
i fouuuuuuuuuuund you
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
I see this ending up
with a lot of unproductive work hours, LOL
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
I’m giving up my day job and becoming a professional twit
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
FOLLOW!
I’m a twitter whore….
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
hello new twitter friend #twitterisreallife
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
That doesn’t sound hip enough. Could you jazz that up a little?
iEOs?
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
Does not comprehend. Please reformat into twitter commands and resubmit #duh
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
man, you should hear me on twitter
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
I want to learn. What buttons do I have to mash to twiter
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Nov 13, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Are you related to Jim Boeheim?
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
I CONCUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
that's far too many u's in one post
7th floor material…bush league, audrey.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Ron Burgundy.
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Sounded like Chevy Chase for a sec
Seminole Game Day -- "All the trash talkin' stops, when the spear drops."
LOL, finshed 750 of crown. It's on...
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
5.47 ypp for Miami for the game (not sure on this garbage time nonsense).
That would appear to be 2nd worst ypp on the year for Miami. Bud only listed the ypp for the games below but I did a quick ESPN search and they were all higher than ours.
VT – 8.6
Duke 7.96
UVA – 7.2
UNC – 5.6
FSU – 5.47
GT – 3.5
F the Deacs - Notre Dame, Rutgers and UConn to the ACC
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Luckily, their last drive was "garbage time".
Give me a Wild and Free World, by committee.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 13, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
HAHA, FSU was up 23-7 and I kept saying garbage time....
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
wait, now I'm kinda crying....
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
OT - has dane cook ever told a funny joke?
even by accident?
Not that I'm aware of.
And if he did, it was probably stolen.
Mike Martin should go coach Hawaii. Then he could have all the poi's he ever wanted - MattDNole
TRUTH!
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
His first Comedy Central Special
Before he was famous was good. I remember a funny joke about Aliens, but that special made him famous and everything since then has been garbage.
by MarchantWarchant on Nov 13, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting to note...
EJ is basically having a better statistical year than Jacory….. and yet Jacory is having a “great” year, while everyone’s on EJ’s case.
Just goes to show how low the bar is set for Jacory's play and how much we expect from EJ.
Two programs headed in two different directions. Two fan bases expect wildly differing results.
I am flying into the states tomorrow to find the refs who laid the smelly egg tonight. I have HAD enough!
Lifes a SPEAR then U TRIBE!!!!!
"We Are FLORIDA STATE!!!!"
"I know what you're scared of.... Its comin' BANK ON IT!"
-CoachColey
"FSU can't beat Oklahoma,Clemson and the refs. I rarely harp this much on officiating, but they were truly brutal. Protectionism at its finest." BUD-ice
Kenya?
Is he the guy that had my relative’s inheritance? Or the one that needed to route money through my account? I am still waiting to hear back from both of those guys. Really need the money for the down payment on the beach house I bought with the proceeds, too.
My vision is getting affected.
I thought that said Sarah Mclachan in there somewhere upon first read.
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I love Sarah McLachlan. And puppies. And kitties.
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"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Nov 13, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
I did comment on the ACC site twice tonight
Told them they were criminals
The Seminoles are still America's team
Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear
Just Want to say
Byrd, over the last 2 seasons, has absolutely gotten CRUSHED by FSU. Like 3 of the top 15 hits of last year came on Byrd, and this will more than likely be the #1 hit this year, and it’s on Byrd. The dude just gets battered when he plays the noles.
No better than #2.
Bradham crushed that Maryland QB.
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On BC's QB on the sideline?
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One was a better football hit (Miami).
The other was a better knockout blow (Maryland).
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From a Clemson fan on ACC refs.
“The second and third most joyful moments for me at the Clemson game was when the Umpire came over to the Clemson bench to get bandaged up (cut on the arm bleeding) someone yelled "LET HIM BLEEEEEEED!!!!!" And when the head Ref tripped over his own feet before a play and went down in the 4th Qtr, there was quite a large cheer.”
The Seminoles are still America's team
Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear
clemson got some nice calls
and no calls in that game in the 4th qtr, don’t know what happened before
There were some really bad calls in that game too
There was a play where Clemson’s LB didn’t let go of a WR once as he ran his entire route (cross), then jumped over his back as the ball was coming in and there wasn’t anything called on it, despite it happening right in front of a ref. There were also some questionable spots for Clemson on critical 3rds.
>>---,,->
Scalp 'em Seminoles!
Have to post this. Keep it Classy Miami Chick, keep it classy.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
lol
And the chicks are wearing the ties to honor the coach who honors the coach who honors serial pedophiles
by CornDogScandal on Nov 13, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I would agree with you
But we in the student section flipped the bird quite a few times. lol
And we had fun throwing crap at the Miami fans and tripping them as they walked out of the STUDENT SECTION.
Classless? Maybe.
Hilarious to watch? Absolutely.
by FloridaState on Nov 13, 2011 3:06 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if I had ever seen so many middle fingers as i did from the students last night, but it’s hard to blame us with that kind of officiating. And the halftime show with the gator fan, priceless
We saw it from the Alumni side, but didn't know what was going on.
Details?
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There was a UF fan decked out in orange and blue, students just heckling/booing him. It wasn’t anything violent, but a few times he and some UM fans were trying to rile up the students, which they did lol
Nice. All we could see was people pointing and yelling.
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why is anyone other than karlos williams returning kicks?
he’s like tamaric vanover on steroids when he gets a full head of steam. why did they put joyner in after he had already been out after getting hurt? why the hell didn’t we run the option AT ALL!!?? i know ej got smacked a couple times last week but at least throw it in a couple times. the refs should all be lined up and ej should be allowed to bean footballs at their balls and faces.
because you have to have 2 returners.
After he earned the KO return job, it’s been his.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 2:49 AM EST up reply actions
My only question is, why are G5 and Los returning kicks?
I understand G5 as a returner (even if he is a much better PR than KR), but if Los is going to return it, wouldn’t we rather have someone who can block a little better than G5?
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Together I mean. I see that wasn't clear.
I definitely endorse Los as a KR. Disappointed for him that his first return for a TD got called back on a BS call.
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I am trying to figure out why Joyner was still returning kickoffs late in the gate.
Seems to me that it’s a little risky using LJ in the return game, when you have Reid and Los who are better than LJ at returns. Joyner has been a key for the defense; it just seems like an unnecessary risk using him on special teams.
by Colorado_Nole on Nov 13, 2011 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
Joyner was the lone return man
when FSU thought it was going to be an onside kick.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 3:39 AM EST up reply actions
MUST be a recruiting promise. Only thing that makes sense IMO.
by ttubasketball on Nov 13, 2011 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You don't keep recruiting promises in year 2.
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Did anyone notice uncalled False Starts on the Miami Left Tackle
He would do some random crap before the play…like furiously rub his leg right before the ball snapped.
It happened 3-4 times and was called 1 time.
Honest Question
What do you think spread will be for FSU-UF? Feel like my Gators may have some trouble stopping that Dag’um QB ya’ll got.
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Coming around I see
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by AMFKNole on Nov 13, 2011 2:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm at about even right now
The offense’s jitters against UM scared me. It will only be magnified playing in the Swamp at night. Plus I’m still very concerned about our offensive line.
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on the UVA game.
If we come out and win by 20 or so, everyone will look at UM as an aberration and I could see UF opening at -7 or greater. If we struggle against UVA, then could be in the -3 range.
What was the deal with the punt td?
I didn’t catch why the punt was called back. Was it more screwed up officiating or was there an actual rule on that? From what I understood, after he touched it but couldn’t grab it we could pick it up and score as we did.
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by NoleFear on Nov 13, 2011 7:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Can't advanced a muffed punt. It's the rule.
Dumb rule, but it’s a rule.
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by onebarrelrum on Nov 13, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
I just don’t understand the rationale for the rule. Most rules have a good justification for being there – player safety or unfair advantage. But what’s the rationale for this rule?
by ttubasketball on Nov 13, 2011 11:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
They don't want to be too like the NFL.
It’s why basketball didn’t add the semi-circle in the paint under the basket until this year.
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Bud or anyone else
Did ya’ll get a chance to see the table during the game showing the breakdown on the 2deep roster by year (sr, jr, etc) for each team? I have been buying into the fact that Um is much older than FsU but that graphic showed that we only had like 4 less Sr starters than Um and the rest of the breakdowns per year were pretty even. Any comments on that?
by Nole'D on Nov 13, 2011 7:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions
My data shows different.
Did the Data also show that Miami’s young players, for the most part, are not very good and would not be on scholarship for FSU?
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No data on quality
Which i fully believe FSU has killed Um on, i was just having a hard time getting to the 22 # ive seen on here.
Second part: What did you think of Um switching qbs? Effective or gimmick? For some reason ive always thought morris wld be a better qb than harris but do not have any stats to back that up.
by Nole'D on Nov 13, 2011 10:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
They managed to pull some medical redshirts (or likely will). Those numbers may be reflected in what Miami sports info provided to ESPN
Harris played ok. I’d stick with him.
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by Bud Elliott on Nov 13, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
I would like to see this graphic.
I must’ve missed it.
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Gathering my thoughts....
1. Why did Barron start? This reminds me of the WF game with EJ. If the better player is available, START THEM.
2. Powell is awesome. When he leaves, will we just go for it on 4th?
3. EJ’s TD pass should have easily been picked off by Miami safety. The safety literally just watched him catch it while standing next to him.
4. If our OL is so terrible/banged up/inexperienced, why do we run it between the tackles so much? (ie on short yardage plays to pick up a 1st, etc).
5. I wish more of our players played with the cockiness that Greg Reid plays with. Just cuz.
A) Barron must’ve had the best practice is all I can think. He did well until he started, uh, not to do well. So there’s that.
2) We have Aguayo (sp?) coming in, best kicker in the country. Not sure if he’s going to do punts, though. Vaguely remember talk about some other guy maybe. Fingers too cold to look it up.
D) The whole game was a hot mess, the only thing I’m going to take away from it, besides the officiating, is that our special teams straight trucked theirs and made them our bitch.
iii) Keeping them honest on the pass, I guess… and running the clock down at times. Oh on short yardage. Pffft, no clue, it sure as hell isn’t working is it? How many 3rd and shorts have we blown this season?
漢) Kiiinda agree. I was telling my wife last night that Greg and Nick Moody have that attitude in common, but Greg backs it up with a crazy play more often (Moody will bulldoze people, but he also blows coverage like a cheap hooker all the time). So cockiness is great, but back it up.
Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."
Cason Beatty
is the punter coming in – rated #1 in the country by an expert (i.e., not random guys who don’t really know punting but have a vote on ESPN or wherever)
Ah, right
Knew I remembered another guy and now that I see his name it’s coming back to me. Anyway, we’re looking pretty good down the line in the kicking department.
Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."
I love this site but
get a little sick and tired of all the crying about Greg Reid. The guy comes and plays in big games. Sorry but we don’t win that game yesterday without that punt return. He makes mistakes like any other kid but he has been a freaking monster against Miami.
In all three games against Miami he has had huge returns. I will take “that guy” rather than the guy that only shows up agasint the Dukes and Maryland’s of the world
#58 should be retired in honor of the most destructive force to ever wear garnet and gold
by Wire2Wire99Grad on Nov 13, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
He makes great plays.
He’s also an idiot sometimes. Shirley you can see that.
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I'm sure he can
…and stop calling him Shirley.
It's not Shirley
It’s Montrel. Or Rontrel. Or TFraz. Nevermind, just call him Shirley.
by NolesStat! on Nov 13, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It wasn’t pretty but it was a W, Ry I agree with you that our first half TD was really just a result of poor safety play, but it is what it is. I’ve grown numb to the ACC refs and the only penalty that I thought was out of line was the Nigel call, but they are even calling it in the NFL now. You just can’t hit someone that hard anymore.
Officiating was total BS
but Special teams was good. Except for the very bad mistake by Greg Reid catching a punt on the 1 Yard Line!!! Dhop also missed a pretty easy one at the end of the half. Shawn Powell was great, placing a punt on the 1 yard line and booming 50 yard punts from out of the end zone. Greg Reid made up for it on the PR TD. I was amazed watching Karlos Williams run. He has bulked up and his strides are like a horse’s .He can FLY.
Bud
If can and have the time In your film review will you please include video of the 2 overturned td calls and the numerous ints that were negated by bogus calls.
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wanted it more?
I disagree with some previous posts that Miami “wanted it more”. I love the passion and intensity our guys play with. Maybe they failed to execute for portions of the game but our guys want it.
Not saying FSU lacked effort in any way. Am saying that this probably meant more to Miami.
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Completely agree with this.
Players even stated this game was their season. After what happened to Miami last year, and all that has over past year they came out swinging for the fence.
1 - 2 Jimbo's coming for you, 3 - 4 Gator’s better lock their door, 5 - 6 grap your crucifix, 7 – 8 Muschamp better stay up late, 9 - 10 never sleep again!!!
by Seminole4Ever on Nov 13, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Jacory’s first comment in the press conference said it all: “I’m never going to get another chance to play FSU.”
You would have thought this was the last game of the season.
It really was
At least the last one that means anything.
by evenflow58 on Nov 13, 2011 9:49 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Pointing at the Ball
I noticed Greg pointed at the ball during his return for a TD. I’m thinking that the ACC would be upset with the inconsistency of calling it in the other game and not calling it in this game or they would be upset that they missed the call in one of the instances. No matter what, something was called improperly.
Saw that, but he did point with his whole hand, maybe that makes a difference?
by Happypedro25 on Nov 13, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Try and keep your cool
by Ocalanole on Nov 13, 2011 10:12 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
First of all thank you for that
As said above, I couldn’t see it b/c my POS station stayed with WVA-Cincy
That being said, GD&(&)( &(^)^* &*^%^%$#$#
We got totally hosed on that.
Screwed with a rusty lugnut wrench.
by CelticPride on Nov 13, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
"Horrible Call"
The reversal on the opening play fumble was just ridiculous, outrageous, unfathomable, …
The call against Bradham was indeed a “horrible call”. They might as well just switch over to flag football if they’re going to call it that way. The only positive thing I can find to say is that at least it wasn’t reviewable - if it had been upheld under review I might be buying a new HDTV today.
Felt like Jimbo was very Sabanesque yesterday
Playing percentages on offense late so as to maximize chances to win as opposed to being aggressive and trying to put the game away.
>>---l>
on a more positive note
Apparently bunch of Rays players came to the game, courtesy of Mrs Fisher
would love to have recruits meet Price and Upton, followed by Ernie Sims and Primetime…
A hatch opened up and the aliens said, "We're sorry to learn that you soon will be dead, but though you may find this slightly macabre, we prefer your extinction to the loss of our job."
I can't help but feel that Jimbo realized we were winning the game with defense and special teams
And didn’t want to risk messing it up on offense. If you think about it, we almost had TWO turnovers on our own goal line (the sack fumble and the intentional grounding. EJ did a great job just to catch that thing, easily could’ve been recovered in the end zone for a touchdown if he didn’t). I think Jimbo basically said “screw this” and deliberately became very conservative with his play calling to minimize the chances his freshman offensive lineman or his injured quarterback screwed the pooch. Definitely wasn’t glamourous, but it was smart. In the words of the late Al Davis “Just win baby!”
by GradSchoolNole on Nov 13, 2011 11:15 AM EST reply actions
Honestly
I was really impressed by how our TEAM played last night. The situations were nightmarish at times and yet they still found a way to make critical plays when needed. Offense included (and no turnovers!). As CJF said in his press conference, the team did well in situational football, and THAT is refreshing. Remember a couple years ago when we just found ways to lose? We would out gain our opponent in a number of ways, seemingly dominating at times, and yet still lose because of poor decisions and executions at critical points in the game. I love the way we won this game in that it was something we haven’t seen here in a long time.
by EngineerNole on Nov 13, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Along the lines of the IG call,
I know everyone was, and still is, up in arms about the double-reversal, but none of that would’ve happened if Trickett didn’t teach the o-line to stand like statues. I know he does it to show that we didn’t false start, but when no flags are thrown on either team, is it really worth it to let 4+ guys come after EJ untouched?
While you're technically right that it wouldn't have happened that way without the freeze
If Barron doesn’t mess up the snap count then it’s what it always is – offsides and free play.
>>---l>
Why did Barron just lay on his face?
It didn’t even look like a cut block. Just laid on his belly like he was dead. I thought he was dead for a second. Perhaps some weird muscle twitch as he was dying was the reason he snapped the ball early.
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I think he whiffed
It looked like he was trying to cut the DT at the legs, but he was avoided.
Well the DT just stood there I thought.
That play was whack. The game was whack. I’m just glad we won. And I’m glad this it was a whack game that wound up in our favor.
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I thought the DT kind of hopped back a tad, but I only watched it once in live action
So I could be dead wrong. Regardless, I agree with you; totally whack-@ss play.
you're right
I didn’t notice that Barron just messed up the snap count at first
First time I remember seeing it.
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I was agreeing with you. That's the first time all year I've seen our OL stay in their stance.
I think it was just confusion.
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Jimbo's response?
“He got a little nervous in there and snapped one before we were ready,” Fisher said. “That’s a big rivalry game for a true freshman.” -Fisher on freshman center Austin Barron
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I just want to say....
….I think the officiating last night was more than fair. We only had 1 more penalty than UM! I’m just really thankful they got that first call of the game correct. Take as long as you need as long as you get it correct, and they did! I mean, he didn’t take 3 steps with the ball! Also, the hit on Byrd by Bradham was downright uncivilized, he knocked him down realllly hard! There’s no place for that in America! Go back to medieval Germany, Nigel!
Anyway, I know most of you won’t like this, but I’m just really thankful we’re in a conference that cares so much about getting the calls correct, no matter the situation or teams involved! They should have ejected Jernigan too, BTW. We got lucky with that one!
by EngineerNole on Nov 13, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
LOL
No need for the ACC to address the officiating in this game now. You already said more or less what they would have said.
by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 13, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Three steps
I mean, he didn’t take 3 steps with the ball!
Absolutely. And he didn’t lift his pivot foot, so there could be no travelling call either.
Without elite ankles, what did you expect?
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Wait
We’re talking football? Why would we care about football? We must have confused this game with the basketball game we’re officiating next week! The memos must have been switched! “Sorry! Sorry everyone! I just get carried away…”
by EngineerNole on Nov 13, 2011 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was at the game
and although it was a messy game the atmosphere was electric. My ankle and throat are currently killing me today because I yelled every play and thanks to people not sitting in their correct seats we didn’t sit down the entire game lol.
And of course
let me not forget to mention that the refs were HORRIBLE!!!!! There were a handful of UM fans sitting right beside me and even they complained about the calls the refs made.
What sucks about a game like this, I don't know you can properly gauge the performance of our team.
The refs just completely took away a lot of the competitiveness, really sad.
My continual complaint against Jimbo is that he still plays Jarbaris Little
When we got stuffed at the goal line on the option play, it would have been a TD if Little had just touched the LB he was supposed to block. Easy block, and he completely whiffs. EJ makes the right read, turns to cut it up and gets hammered by the LB who ran unimpeded to the gap.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
Seriously
can O’Leary or Tye be any worse?
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by Matt Champion on Nov 13, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Actually meant to say
surely O’Leary or Tye can’t be worse?
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by Matt Champion on Nov 13, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I was out of pocket all weekend, so no TN
I fully expected to see a headline like, ‘FSU defeats ACC refs, Miami Hurricanes also in attendance’. Was not disappointed.
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