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Florida State Football Preview: Seminoles at Gators

The rivalry between the Florida State Seminoles and the Florida Gators is renewed this weekend, as FSU travels to Gainesville. The 'Noles come in at 7-4 (5-3 ACC). The Gators sit at 6-5 (3-5 SEC). Both teams entered the season with young(ish) rosters, and both have suffered key injuries at positions of relatively little depth. 

This is senior day for UF, and the Gators should be fired up to score their first decent win of the year (wins over UAB, Tennessee, FAU, Vanderbilt, Furman and Kentucky). And being that it's a night game (7 p.m., ESPN2), it should be a raucous crowd. 

This week’s meeting will mark the 56th meeting all-time in the series between the two schools. UF holds a 33-20-2 edge in the overall series, including a 20-8-1 record in Gainesville. The Gators have not lost to FSU at home since the 2003 season, when the No. 9 Seminoles beat No. 11 Florida, 38-34. UF and FSU have faced each other in the regular season finale each year since 1980. (In 2001, games of Sept. 11 were postponed until the week following the end of the regular season)

The Seminoles are favored by less than a field goal in this matchup, meaning it basically a tossup. Jimbo Fisher is undefeated against his rivals (1-0 v. UF, 2-0 v. Miami), and has won the games by an average of 19 points per contest.

These teams are very similar. Both have very good defenses. Both have struggled on offense, mostly due to injury. And both feature excellent, explosive special teams. 

FSU Defense v. UF's offense

Florida State's defense is rated 10th in the nation. UF's offense is rated 69th. The question is: how much of that was UF missing Brantley for 3 of its losses and having him hobbled in another two? The answer: a lot. But I don't know how to quantify it.

UF runs a pro-style offense. Their backs are not well-suited for this, and they don't have many dependable receivers. Brantley has played pretty well when healthy, given the circumstances. Chris Rainey and Jeff Demps are capable of big plays if they get a crease. Andre Dubose is a freak of an athlete with a good group of long touchdowns.  

FSU will be the 3rd or 4th best defense faced by the Gators this year (Bama, LSU and arguably SoCar). They didn't fare particularly well in any of those contests. FSU needs to avoid giving up the big play. UF does not string together long drives well at all. They are overly dependent on big plays. FSU needs to play conservatively, force Brantley to hold the ball, and when he throws it underneath, big hits need to be delivered. UF will fumble a football if given the chance, and in a game like this, big plays and turnovers will likely be the deciding factor. Want more reason to limit the big plays? UF is an awful team in the red zone. If UF wants TDs, they must be earned in the red zone. Big plays and turnovers. I have no doubt UF will come out with some new stuff, as they worked for this game last week (see also: completely unprepared to play Furman).

But FSU has an excellent defense. If they do their job, UF won't be scoring much. 

Goals

Hold UF to less than 5 yards/play. This is ambitious, but the defense has been good all year and is relatively healthy. 

Force 2 turnovers

No more than 4 big plays (25+ yard pass plays and 15+ yard run plays). 

FSU offense v. UF Defense

Much like the analysis above, UF's defense is much better than FSU's offense. UF is a man-pressure team. That means they will bring pressure on third down and play man coverage behind it, trying to force the quick throw. Look for FSU to use its receivers to attack UF's relatively young secondary. Much like FSU's defensive line, UF's defensive line should give FSU's offensive line all sorts of trouble. If UF's defensive line plays out of control, FSU may be able to gash them with some longer running plays. 

The big question for FSU is just how much EJ Manuel can run. Will they shoot him up with something extra special and run him? It'd make sense for this game. UF's front seven is much better than its secondary, and if FSU can force the Gators to respect the run game, it will have some 1-on-1 opportunities against a suspect secondary. 

And no matter the status of his legs, Manuel must have a much better game mentally than he did against UVA. This goes for the entire offense, but especially Manuel. 

Goals

At least 5.25 yards/play

No more than 1 turnover

No more than 4 operational (pre-snap/alignment/delay) penalties. 

Prediction

Noles 23, Gators 20. Not particularly confident in the prediction, either, because I think the game will be decided by big plays and turnovers. The variance associated when two teams like this get together is enormous. 

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I noticed in the OU game Lamarcus Joyner has that “I will rip your eyes out” Mike Singletary stare

by hisaoawesome on Nov 25, 2011 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

"Shoot him up with something extra special"

I don’t know why I can’t stop laughing at this, yet at the same time I keep picturing the scene from Varsity Blues in my head.

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by ValdostaNole on Nov 25, 2011 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

You figure...Hmm... A couple of weeks off for a bowl game...Ha

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by FSU on Nov 25, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn't the rumor that he's going to have surgery anyway?

What’s to lose? Ensure the pain is tolerable and let him loose. Then repair it after.

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by shonole on Nov 25, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Cortisone shot(s). And more.

Nigel Bradham, helping Laron Byrd forget his problems...along with his name, what day it is, and general location all together.

by Chief03 on Nov 25, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It's just Novocaine & Flax seed oil.

Right, Roger Barry Bonds Clemons??

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by DRusso97 on Nov 25, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Special teams - Huge in this game.

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by FSU on Nov 25, 2011 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

I expect a healthy amount of that. Although usually the Miami-FSU game involves more sloppiness. But we rarely have a FSU-UM or FSU-UF game where both teams play intelligently in the same year.

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by FSU on Nov 25, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. which team will be dumber and sloppier?

FSU has my vote.

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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 25, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont know

The gators have had their fair share of sloppy dumb play. I couldn’t guess which team will be dumber. Really a toss up.

by dominicannole on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ehhhh come on....

UF hasn’t exactly lit the world on fire.

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by Chief03 on Nov 25, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Power rankings put UF well below UVA. UVA would beat them handily.

http://www.dunkelindex.com/NCAA_Football_Div1A_Rankings.asp

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by DocHoliday2 on Nov 26, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think FSU loses by 14 plus.

They will be extremely sloppy. Turnovers and picks set up a bunch of UF points.

Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.

by onebarrelrum on Nov 26, 2011 3:59 AM EST up reply actions  

well with you picking UM over us maybe its good you pick UF lol

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by caine115 on Nov 26, 2011 4:30 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The few UF games I've watched they've had excellent special teams

Their special teams have been about their only offense from what I’ve seen.

by PSLNOLE on Nov 25, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Special teams haven't been bad...

…but we’ve also had a problem knowing how to field punts and where on the field to field punts.

by The Bull Gator on Nov 26, 2011 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Will EJ show up?

That’s my big concern. We lose by 15-20 if the UVA EJ takes the snaps.
And if that EJ shows up then I have some serious questions. And don’t feed me that crap about shoulder injury…might buy into undisclosed concussion though.

by law74 on Nov 25, 2011 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

I thought visiting team always brings the Officiating Crew.

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by Chief03 on Nov 25, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Not in this game. Both teams have agreed

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by FSU on Nov 25, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s been that way since 2003, because, well, you know…

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by FlaGators on Nov 25, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Starting with the 2004 game of course.

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by FlaGators on Nov 25, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

After the 2003 game UF decided "no more ACC refs."

I wish Florida State could make the same decision. More often than not I’d take my chances with an SEC crew.

by Dauntless12 on Nov 25, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we request NEXT year's game to be officiated by an SEC crew??

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by DRusso97 on Nov 25, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I was gonna go with that.......but I thought God would smite me for my selfishness.

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by DRusso97 on Nov 25, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The SEC refs haven’t been all that great this season. But yes, I’m sure they’ve been better than their ACC compatriots.

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by FlaGators on Nov 25, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha.

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by FlaGators on Nov 25, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

And a Rec to you

my good sir

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by xfactor159 on Nov 26, 2011 8:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Woooooo Hoooooo.

Who woulda thought our prayers woulda been answered with an……SEC Crew. Yea. That’s how far the ACC has fallen. I can’t wait to leave these jackwagon nimrods in the dust for the SEC.

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by Chief03 on Nov 25, 2011 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

I say gators by 7

Just don’t have any confidence in this oline and an injured EJ. The defense will keep us in the game though

by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

And I am not being negative

Just realistic. It is afterall a night game in the swamp

by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 25, 2011 7:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This isn't the same Gators that dominated the past few years though.

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by Chief03 on Nov 25, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

True

But there isn’t any real reason to have any optimism in this offense or coaching. EJ is hurt and has been awful the past few games, jimbo keeps playing guys lilke Little, Parks, etc. when there are clearly better options (5 wide wr sets, Brooks, etc.) Bobby Hart had 4 false starts…at home!!! How many does the 17 year old have in a hostile environment?! UF has huge questions too, i just believe pur questions are bigger and we have more of them

by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 25, 2011 8:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd be willing to bet that there's more optimism for the opposing team getting the win on both sides of this one.

I just can’t see Florida pulling this one out. I’m pretty sure it will be close, but Florida hasn’t shown the ability to finish anyone. If bad EJ shows up, we have a chance, but even then I see a lot FGs when TDs should happen. FSU has a really good Dline, and we’ve seen plenty of those, and fared terribly against all of them. The running game will be worthless on the edges, but I promise you that Charlie will keep trying it anyway. The only way this one goes in our favor, is if Brantley plays like he did in the first half of the Alabama game. I just don’t see it, but I’ll be rooting loudly anyway.

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by Cardsfan25 on Nov 25, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Aghhh

Maybe not as bad as UVA, but he has made more mistakes than I would expect and add the fact he has ran the option next to nothing the past “few” games it doesn’t leave me with much confidence. And let me say I am a big EJ fan (when fully healthy). I know he is not Ponder and I expect mistakes but I also expect him to make some plays Ponder could not, ala his legs via designed plays.

by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 25, 2011 8:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe if he didn't run 150 times, even with comfortable leads

against Duke, Maryland, NCSt and BC, the option would’ve been a possibility the last “two” games.

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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 25, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s that last one BC that… oh well.. what’s past is past.

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by FSU on Nov 25, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. time to move on and just accept

it’s all EJ’s fault.

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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 25, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I blame him for global warming too

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by FSU on Nov 25, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

killed off the dinosaurs

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by FSU on Nov 25, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

....With a Trident.

1 by 1.

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by DRusso97 on Nov 25, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

all before 9am

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by FSU on Nov 25, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.

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by shonole on Nov 25, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow--that REALLY escalated quickly!!

Bobby B…….you should probably lay low for a while—just until the Heat passes.

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by DRusso97 on Nov 25, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He caused the heat

With the asteroid that killed the dinosurs

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by caine115 on Nov 26, 2011 3:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually agree with you

Again I love what EJ brings skill wise to the offense. No reason to run him as much as they did after the Wake loss. You know Jimbo was overcompensating to make sure. Wake repeat did not occur. I was hoping most of EJ’s leg would be saved for DA U and UF

by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 25, 2011 8:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agreed good Doctor

Don’t agree Jimbo & Co. made a huge blunder by both running EJ as much as they did late in games and also leaving him in late? I remember EJ taking a pounding in the BC game & I sat there asking my self what the hell is Jimbo doing running EJ still with this lead?!?! Especially with the defense playing lights out that night. Guarantte that is where he got re-injured.

by SarasotaSeminole on Nov 25, 2011 8:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ehh, so when EJ isnt healthy your not that big a fan?

I thought Little only played in the UVA game this season. I don’t see the unworthy seniors playing in this game unless we’re up BIG. Jimbo definately played some last game due to it being senior day, and it seemed to bite us on the ass. It appeared Jimbo underestimated Wake and UVA. I highly doubt he does it this game. JMO.

by jenolesone on Nov 26, 2011 1:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Agree

I don’t know where any confidence could come from that we’re going to play smart, disciplined football. I think we win if it happens, but we’ve shown nothing lately to make anyone believe that it’s likely.

Manuel may be injured, which would keep him from doing certain things physically, but that wouldn’t explain missing so many reads. I’m worried that he may be one more of those tremendously gifted kids who panic under pressure.

Our OL has a long way to go before they can be counted on to even hold their own against a good DL…and Florida has a good DL.

I think the coaching staffs are both struggling…so that’s a push.

by movinonup on Nov 25, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

We've seen way too many 3 and outs ourselves lately, cards.

Both defenses have played pretty well at times, and both offenses are struggling. It will probably come down to who protects the football best.

by movinonup on Nov 25, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

UF students didnt collect all their tickets

Score early and take the crowd out. Gator fans are ready for the year to be over. Hopefully the team is as well (less likely).

by DixieNole on Nov 25, 2011 8:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

that’s interesting

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by FSU on Nov 25, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was able to scoop one/impersonating a gata fan

Seriously Turtle, Smoke More Weed

by Mannieblunts on Nov 25, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I got one as well.

Along with about 5 other of my fsu student friends.

by Blake Davis on Nov 25, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Its what they tried v Bama and Debose got the big play.

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by Mannieblunts on Nov 25, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just saying cuz

we’re not the 2nd half team of yester-year

by rythefly on Nov 26, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I also think Jimbo will come out with some "new stuff"

He lives for these games. Sweep the leg.

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by Mannieblunts on Nov 25, 2011 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

I assume this is a joke

If Jimbo has shown anything, it’s a decided lack of creativity when it comes to game planning. We’ve been waiting all year for him to roll out the “real” offense, but we haven’t seen it yet.

by movinonup on Nov 25, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

no

perhaps a screen or hb draw

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by Mannieblunts on Nov 25, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ve been waiting all year for him to roll out the "real" offense, but we haven’t seen it yet.

We as Gator fans, know that feeling this year … very well.

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by FlaGators on Nov 25, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the same about the OU game. Didn’t seem like we played that game much different than prior games.

by TampaTwo on Nov 25, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

We did come out with a new formation in that game.

Empty set, with 2 TE’s. Seriously, that was worth saving.

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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Nov 25, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

in all fairness

I remember the tn game preview saying we would use that formation to try and exploit the sooners, so if bud was calling for it pregame it probably wasnt to bad an idea.

by cbs_24 on Nov 25, 2011 11:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Jimbo prolly knows that beating UF is the only thing fans care about

so as long as he wins that one, he’s ok………….and by fans I mean all those who aren’t on this site.

by rythefly on Nov 26, 2011 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

UF does not string together long drives well at all. They are overly dependent on big plays.

Depending of course … on the opponent.

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by FlaGators on Nov 25, 2011 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

You’re right. It’s not like we are a powerhouse like furman

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by SteadfastNole on Nov 25, 2011 8:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Does a 30-yarder count as a big play to y’all?

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by FlaGators on Nov 25, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

YEAH BROLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by ValdostaNole on Nov 25, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, alrigthy then.

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by FlaGators on Nov 25, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Either we blow them out (37-13) or we lose 23-16

The offensive line (especially Krug) are about to get worked over by Florida’s defensive line. If Florida can get pressure with four linemen, we’ll lose cause I don’t trust EJ to read a defense.

My prediction for 2011 is 12-2 (6-2)
I expect to be in contention for the National Title but a late loss will bounce us out of it. We should finish in the Top 5 and win the whole thing EJ's senior year. Legal_Seminole 01/09/2011

by Legal_Seminole on Nov 25, 2011 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

Krug could surprise us. Up until the UVA game he had been showing improvement.

To be honest, I’m more worried about Bobby. It’s going to be a rough atmosphere, and we can’t afford to have another game with multiple operational penalties.

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by shonole on Nov 25, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree. But still hoping he surprises us.

Stranger things have happened. I think..

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by shonole on Nov 25, 2011 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully will just settle him at one position and can stick with it all year

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by FSU on Nov 26, 2011 4:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta hand it to you Legal

Still showing your preseason prediction.
Please tell me you’re predicting a UF victory.

by law74 on Nov 26, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Blow them out?

Wow. Down there? We blew them out down there in 77, 37-9.

After that? We’ve won 27-16. 28-14. 24-17. 33-21. 30-23. 38-34.

First win down there, we won 21-16.

I think we have a tough time blowing them out. IF we sneak out of there with a win, I will skyward, say “thank you” and come home. And celebrate on the way back home! I’m NOT driving!

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by Sobering on Nov 25, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope this game does not have a "sobering" effect on us all.

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by shonole on Nov 25, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It is highly possible because of the way our team is

If by some miracle EJ shows up and let’s it all hang out I like our chances.

My prediction for 2011 is 12-2 (6-2)
I expect to be in contention for the National Title but a late loss will bounce us out of it. We should finish in the Top 5 and win the whole thing EJ's senior year. Legal_Seminole 01/09/2011

by Legal_Seminole on Nov 25, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

ok ill do it

I will be the fan that predicts a win in a blow out. We win 40-13 I predict that ej runs and passes well our defense puts on the performance of the year with 6 sacks and 3 picks.

by dominicannole on Nov 25, 2011 9:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

....With no pants on.

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by DRusso97 on Nov 25, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

No pants Party?

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by ValdostaNole on Nov 25, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like to extend you an invitation to the Pants Party...

… the party, the pants, with pants, party with pants …

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by shonole on Nov 25, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I was. All-USMC 2nd Row.

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by DRusso97 on Nov 26, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

FRANK THE TANK!!!

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by xfactor159 on Nov 26, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

And a rec

for TWSS

"When you go out there and put numbers on the scoreboard, everything changes. We went out there and executed." -- FSU coach Jimbo Fisher

by xfactor159 on Nov 26, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, I wish I still had that kind of confidence in our team.

I’ve already decided that I’m going to need a good off-season of hype before I start really believing that we have a shot at a national championship anytime soon.

by seminoleballer on Nov 26, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Noles 29-16

It’s not that I think our offense is going to be all that great. I just think we’ll get more opportunities for cheap points than they will and possibly a special teams score. Other than that, FGs galore for both teams.

by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 25, 2011 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

62-10 Noles

yeah right…….. Can we just ignore the score and crown the winner of this game the Gold Medal winner for Special Olympics Football?

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by ValdostaNole on Nov 25, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Bet you right now before the game its 0-0

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by caine115 on Nov 26, 2011 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Not if we need it to win.....

too soon?

What is the definition of safe sex down in Gainesville?

Placing signs on the animals that kick.

by ValdostaNole on Nov 25, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, not at all.

What do ya think is gonna happen? You shake his confidence and he misses game clinching kicks? Too Late, not too soon.

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by Chief03 on Nov 25, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I have reliable world that this is true......and has been true for a significant portion of the season.

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by DRusso97 on Nov 25, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

would explain a lot of his kicks the latter part of this season.

What is the definition of safe sex down in Gainesville?

Placing signs on the animals that kick.

by ValdostaNole on Nov 25, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems like all our problems are the result of injuries or refs.

Couldn’t it just be that we have some players that we thought/hoped were better than they are?

Our place kicker missed a critical field goal last year against UNC. Was he hurt then?

Our QB threw more interceptions than TDs last year, and followed that up with an atrocious spring game. Was he hurt then?

by movinonup on Nov 25, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The difference is, Dustin IS that good.

He barely missed the UNC kick last year, and he has been injured this year, yet has performed well enough to be one of the 3 finalists for the Groza.

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by shonole on Nov 25, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

have you watched our games?

Yes many of our games have been changed due to injuries and officiating. I see only one game that we lose without bad injury luck or poor officiating.

by dominicannole on Nov 25, 2011 11:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If it helps you sleep at night

Some choose to focus on injuries and refs and turn a blind eye to all the other reasons this has been such a disappointing season. We need to fix the things we can do something about and quit wasting our energy on things we can’t control.

by movinonup on Nov 26, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

no energy wasted

Just stating the facts. Is there games we shld have won even with those handicaps sure I can think of 2. But to say that it doesn’t matter or change things is wrong.

by dominicannole on Nov 26, 2011 12:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

When you turn a blind eye to cheating, you invite more. If somebody robs a minute market, you don’t just shrug it off to something you can’t control.

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by DocHoliday2 on Nov 26, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

And your attitude

being the prvalent one in today’s society, is precisely why this sort of thing continues.

by realnole1128 on Nov 26, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

f/+ has UF's D as 27th

I think you are giving them a tad too much vredit overall.

Plus commentors saying not sure who has been more inconsistent have clearly not watched UF closley. They win and its not even close.

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by truecolors on Nov 25, 2011 11:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Without an OL that can pick up short yardage, we lose.

We’re too 1-dimensional.

Different decade, same results.

by PeachTreeNole on Nov 25, 2011 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

I agree that our OL has been a downer this year, but...

…there are other reasons to worry about tomorrow’s game. For starters, our QB who seems to make poor decisions under pressure and our offensive coaches who can’t seem to find ways to exploit our opponents’ weaknesses.

by movinonup on Nov 26, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

EJ's hard drive is crawling and freezing up now.

His cache is full and he’s not processing. And yet Jimbo plans to spend the offseason focusing on more details.

This seems like just another game we shouldn’t lose, but will.

And then the sunshiners who think recruiting rankings fix everything because the youngsters will just morph into superstars, and the oldtimers who sat through 0-11 almost 40 years ago and are content to be above .500, will yell “wait till next year!” And start the hype machine will start all over again.

See sig line.

Different decade, same results.

by PeachTreeNole on Nov 26, 2011 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Umm, we have had several wide open men in each game

Our coaches do an EXCELLENT job of putting us in position to exploit weaknesses. When EJ just completely whiffs on open men downfield, overthrows, etc. it’s not on anyone but him.

by jmnpb996 on Nov 26, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Final will be 13-10, someone.

Both coaches will try the ultra-conservative wait for the defense to score or set me up all game long. It will be unwatchable for anyone not a fan of either team.

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by Kazoonole on Nov 26, 2011 12:53 AM EST reply actions  

1st team to 10 points wins??

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by DRusso97 on Nov 26, 2011 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

I just hope Jimbo’s not distracted with the other family issues that have come up.

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by FSU on Nov 26, 2011 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Ethan?

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by caine115 on Nov 26, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions  

No

Candi’s family. Her brother died. When it rains it pours

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by FSU on Nov 26, 2011 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

jesus. I feel so bad for the family

I only hope, as bad as it sounds, that maybe he was sick and at peace and not something out of nowhere. My prayers again to the family

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by caine115 on Nov 26, 2011 3:32 AM EST up reply actions  

accident

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by FSU on Nov 26, 2011 3:41 AM EST up reply actions  

jesus

My sympathies again to the family, I am sure from the whole nation

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by caine115 on Nov 26, 2011 3:54 AM EST up reply actions  

The final score will be 2-0 FSU

FSU causes a safety early in the 1st and both teams make us watch horrible football the entire game. And we will because at a score like that you can’t just not watch.

What is the definition of safe sex down in Gainesville?

Placing signs on the animals that kick.

by ValdostaNole on Nov 26, 2011 3:55 AM EST reply actions  

Gotta say, I've got this creeping fear that we get blasted.

Our team has one glaring and fatal flaw-our OL. We get no push up front and haven’t been picking up blitzers well for the last couple games.
It was clear that UVA saw that weakness in film study, because they exploited it all last week. It is foolish to think tat Muschamp won’t watch the same game film and come to the same conclusions. If anything, it should be even easier for him to gameplan because it worked so well last week. The game plan to beat us is already out there and has been shown to work.
I expect UF to blitz us early and often, playing havoc in our backfield all game and not only dropping people for losses but also causing fumbles that lead to short-field Gator scores and ultimately the difference in this game. UF has their own flaws, too, but we’ve got to be able to execute to exploit them, and I don’t know that we will have the time to.
I call UF 30-13.

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by Dogrel on Nov 26, 2011 4:21 AM EST reply actions  

Unreal

You are saying this as if a-our defense isn’t good and 2-as if uf is a good team-they aren’t, people need to start realizing that

by LetsGoNoles on Nov 26, 2011 9:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I've had that feeling as well, but I just keep coming back to the fact that their offense is putrid

I’m not sure how much they can capitalize even if we give them a short field. They can undoubtedly say the same about us. We’re similar teams, but I just think that we’re slightly better in all three phases of the game.

by BobLoblaw113 on Nov 26, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Dog, uf is terrible this year, have you not watched them???? I know we're bad, but they're worse man

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by mobaynole on Nov 26, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we pay field position

Try to run the ball, punt, and put our defense in scoring position.

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by SeminoleMike on Nov 26, 2011 8:35 AM EST reply actions  

Doesn't Muschamp own Jimbo?

If that is the case this can be a pretty frustrating day.

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by Legal_Seminole on Nov 26, 2011 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

I can't find a situation where they faced each other.

They were both on LSU in 2003 when Texas beat LSU 35-20 in the Cotton Bowl. Muschamp went to the NFL in 2005, JImbo went to FSU before Muschamp spent two years at Auburn and then 3 at Texas.

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by Kazoonole on Nov 26, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Great Preview....

UF’s offense has been affected by Brantley’s absence but they still would be pretty bad with him or not. He is their best QB but he hasn’t played an overly impressive game yet. A lot of that has to do w/ his receivers or a lack their of. They just can’t catch and are poor route runners (Can we say Aubrey Hill). They rely too much on the performances of Demps and Rainey to move the ball and be effective. Just like in last years game; that will not work against us. Both of them are fumble machines, so if we are able to get hats on the ball or big hits on them, expect a few loose balls. I really don’t see how their offense is going to move the ball against us. They don’t have the O-line that can challenge our defense at all like Miami did or Virginia so I’m not worried too much on that end.

Their defense is pretty good, especially in the front-4 but they don’t have the corners in the secondary to cover our receivers, so I would expect some big plays given up if our line can by some time at certain points in the game. I think the only way this game can be close depends on how effective their defense can keep our offense out of the endzone. Special Teams will be important and Dustin Hopkins is going to have to step up to the plate.

by zone3nole on Nov 26, 2011 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

RETAIN OUR STATE TITLE

Must be the rallying cry today! This has been a very disappointing year thanks to injuries, losses, and more injuries. A victory in the cesspool will help to soothe the pain. GO NOLES!

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by Kellumbear on Nov 26, 2011 11:41 AM EST reply actions  

I really hope we watch Debose on the fly route today it seems that’s the only way he makes a play besides special teams

SPEAR or get SPEARED!!

by centralflnole on Nov 26, 2011 12:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

lots of pessimistic Noles posting this week!

Come on tribe! Noles D plays huge. Offense is pissed about last week. Noles scalp the lizards, win by 10.

by ChiefOceola on Nov 26, 2011 1:47 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

i'm not one

FSU 31-17 due to refn that just makes you pissed instead of inspiring technicolor yawns

by realnole1128 on Nov 26, 2011 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

Very sad...pray for the Fisher Family

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 Piedmont – Mr. Franklin “Craig” Coogler, 37, passed away on November 23, 2011. He was born on December 27, 1973, the son of Gus and Suzanne Alexander Coogler. He was of the Baptist faith and was currently employed with Weaver & Sons, Inc. He was preceded in death by a grandfather, Odus Coogler; two grandmothers, Gladys Coogler and Jean Alexander; great-grandmother, Nettie Coogler. Survivors include his wife, Amanda Coogler; his mother and stepfather Suzanne and Monty Ballard; his father and stepmother, Guss and Pam Coogler; sister, Candi Fisher; brother, Cale Coogler; two step-sons, Logan Austin and Dylan McMurray; grandfather, Henry “Hank” Alexander; three nieces, Katlyn, Chole and Cade Coogler; two nephews, Trey and Ethan Fisher. Funeral services will be held today, November 26, 2011, at 11 a.m. at Folsom’s Funeral Home’s Heritage Chapel with the Rev. Jerry Pike officiating. Burial will follow at Piedmont Memory Gardens. Pallbearers will include Colby Acker, John Brewster, Michael Goss, Mike Ford, Jimmy Goss, Dennis Acker, Shane “Chigger” Floyd, and Jake Baggett. Folsom Funeral Home’s Heritage Chapel had charge of arrangements. Online condolences can be made to the family at folsomfhandcemetery.com.
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