'Noles News 12/14/2011: Just How Bad Does Auburn Want Mark Stoops?
by Bud Elliott on Dec 14, 2011 12:52 PM EST
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PrintYesterday came and went without any official announcement on Mark Stoops. However, today brings new speculation, as Auburn has offered Stoops over one million dollars. That's all very interesting, because Auburn just lost Gus Malzahn, who left for Arkansas State and took an enormous pay cut. Also, seriously, Auburn? $1M for Mark Stoops? Stoops is a good coach who has produced very good results with elite talent. I do not see him as a program changer as a DC. If Mark Stoops can get $1M a year, he should go. Seriously.
But things at Auburn seem strange to me. Stoops and Jimbo don't have an amazing relationship, but it seems crazy things are going down at Auburn. Why in the world would Malzahn take a 50-percent pay cut to become the head coach at Arkansas State?
Yesterday we covered some of the reasons why Stoops might leave, and some why he might stay. I'm not going to rehash those here. Basically, just take what I wrote yesterday, and make the number north of $1M. Obviously, FSU will not be matching that if it were true. Also, add Stoops questioning whether he should really take a job at Auburn, where people are fleeing like rats off a sinking ship.
Stoops will make money money next year no matter where he lands. I bet FSU is willing to go to ~575-725K (makes ~440K now). The devil you know... . As I believed yesterday, I still think Stoops is staying.
On to other news...
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with Oklahoma and LSU still to go...
"I think I really jumped the gun and didn’t get to see what other schools had to offer." — Mario Edwards Jr.
I get that. They are a joke on the field.
And apparently off it to the players, also.
What are you glorifying with your life?
Friedgen's players
have to be bitter about the way he left after they had a good year and how this season turned out. Can’t imagine they have a lot of respect for Edsall
by MarchantWarchant on Dec 14, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
About the Freshman article
Yes please.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Dec 14, 2011 1:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions 11 recs
speaking of...
is Dabo still trying to Get Tony Steward that red shirt? It’s against the rules of course, but what does Dabo care?
Mos Def
FSU back-2-back state champs!! 52-14
by CashvilleNole on Dec 14, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yessir buddy
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 14, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I 7th that...
"Expectations are high and you can't run from expectations"-Jimbo Fisher
by WinstonSalemNole on Dec 14, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Liked the Article
I liked the STS article on freshmen participation, but wish they had included special teams snaps.
2011 attendance #'s are out
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2011/Internet/attendance/FBS_AVGATTENDANCE.pdf
FSU was 18th, about 400 per game behind Clemson for most in the ACC.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
they also have lower capacity...
though not by much. 81,500 to our 82,300.
adjust by percentage and we are way lower, about no. 42
percentage doesn’t mean anything.
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Dec 14, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Well it speaks to demand and therefore how much you can charge
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Dec 14, 2011 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We were talking straight attendance numbers
and even so, neither one is at capacity. Price only goes up when demand exceeds supply.
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Dec 14, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Win the ACC and we would have an equally good attendance percentage.
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It means per 100 if I’m not mistaken.
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by RollNole5 on Dec 14, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it does because out of the total amount of people in 7 games we could have fit in our stadium, we only filled it to ~95% capacity. 41 other schools had better accumulated attendance. that speaks a lot, but of course is explained by many factors.
I’m not sure what you’re saying there
but 600k people is 600k people regardless if we did it at 92% or at 95 % capacity
70% capacity of a 100k stadium is still better than 100% capacity of a 40k stadium.
I get a little of what you’re trying to say, but 4 or 5 percentage points don’t mean a lot
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by SteadfastNole on Dec 14, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
i understand what you are saying regarding raw totals, but like it was mentioned above, i think it speaks about demand.
back to your example. yeah we could fill the same numbers as another school. but, if they did it at 100% capacity as opposed to say our 95% (yeah 5% isnt much until applied to large numbers), then there are people who just don’t care to go to our games even when room is available. the other school has demand for tickets beyond what they can fill. i want people to demand a seat at our games, but i know other factors make it difficult for our school as opposed to others.
Gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a s*?
We have improved in this regard. Keep winning, Doak will be full and rocking. We’ll always fill up for UM, UF, and a big OOC game. Doak was ROCKING for OU. A couple of 10 win seasons and it’ll remain that good. Death Valley is only loud because the local populace loves to yell every third down for a 6-7 team coached by a clown, who already has a de facto HCIW. Our fans will show up with wins.
Death Valley is loud because the stadium is better designed for noise
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Dec 15, 2011 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
not sure if you seriously believe that.
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Dec 15, 2011 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
i’d like to say you contributed to the analysis… but i’m not sure if your response contained any meaningful points
You say you want demand...
Would you rather be a UCF sized stadium that seats 45k people and then FSU would lead the nation in % in seats, or would you rather have at stadium that holds nearly twice that at 95% full. Seems to me the team would get a better home field advantage from a larger crowd and I personally prefer to not have to drop 100 per game to watch a football game. Ultimately the point is, that 40-50k may be loud…but I’d take 75-80 over that 40-50 every day stadium structure being identical in style.
i do agree. a larger number seems nice on paper. but looking at it on tv can be disappointing when the stadium isnt full.
Thats TV though...
TV could make 80k seem like 90k as in the Swamp… or it can make 40k look like 10k as in Boston College… I’d rather Doak be rocking with as many people as possible then getting worried about whether attendance was 102% or 94% 75+k people is a lot of people and we do make noise…
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by stevegrizzle on Dec 15, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
The demand is fine
As you alluded to, the “other factors” make it difficult for us to fill every seat every time. It’s not the price of the ticket but the price of gas, food, lodging and time that it takes for the vast majority of our fanbase to attend.
And all of these numbers are fudged to varying degrees. UF’s #s are outright lies. There were swaths empty seats for Furman and at least 10k empty for Vandy.
The EDSBS thread about Craig James is comedic gold
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by Curtain Jerker on Dec 14, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
My guess is things are unraveling at the lovely village on the plains and Chizik is simply trying to make a splash and slow things down by hiring a high profile coordinator. Gus is leaving, so try and bring in Stoops to soften the blow.
The Seminoles are still America's team
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Has a HC ever given a portion of his salary to a DC or OC that was being courted by another school to try to convince one or the other to stay?
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by Blood, Sugar, Sex, ORLANDO Magic on Dec 14, 2011 1:35 PM EST reply actions
Care to elaborate as to why I should 'Just stop"?
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by Blood, Sugar, Sex, ORLANDO Magic on Dec 14, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
As in
No effing way that’s going to happen.
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 14, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
because you were approaching
ludicrous speed
by jasonole59 on Dec 14, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec every time
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 14, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
So it hasn't ever happened?
I am not suggesting it should be done in this case.
Don’t soil your diaper.
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by Blood, Sugar, Sex, ORLANDO Magic on Dec 14, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
But it’s probably never going to happen. Jimbo has been with Stoops for two years, not 10. In no way would this happen, especially since Stoops will get a GIANT raise if he stays.
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 14, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Most HC have a pretty big ego.
no way they are going to admit they can’t do the job by looking deperate and offering up their own money.
In this specific case Fisher would Fisher prefer to pay Stoops out of his pocket, or put that money into the research for his son’s disease? Seems like an easy choice to me.
That's what I figured.
The ‘Space Balls’ reference was appreciated as well.
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by Blood, Sugar, Sex, ORLANDO Magic on Dec 14, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
dabo actually wanted to do this
if I remember right.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Dec 14, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
You remember correctly
He has raises built into his contract, one of which was winning the Atlantic Division. When he did that his first year he took the raise money and allocated it out to his staff (Steele in particular). I don’t believe he took a penny of it.
I believe one of the violations at uf in the 80s
Was that Galen Hall paid some of his assistants out of his own pocket (or something weird like that).
yeah they damn near got the death penalty.
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I can't wait for Feb. 3rd.
Then my nerves can get back to some sense of normalcy. This season has been a little rough.
by just_chiefin' on Dec 14, 2011 1:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Why the 3rd?
Signing day is the 1st.
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by jskipnole on Dec 14, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Recovery time?
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by Jamil Dawson on Dec 14, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
If Stoops were going to Auburn...he'd be gone by now....
On the Mario Edwards Jr. front…I realize he is a kid….but please just shut up from now until you FAX your LOI to whatever school you FAX it to….that is all.
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I disagree....
Whg announce you’re leaving if your salary goes up for every day you sit tight?
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No.
On the Mario Edwards Jr. front…I realize he is a kid….but please just shut up from now until you FAX your LOI to whatever school you FAX it to….that is all.
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by BossNole on Dec 14, 2011 1:52 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Rec’d for Airplane reference
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 14, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Off topic
Just stumbled upon this report, don’t know if this is Winston related but potentially very bad news: http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/12/13/shocker-longtime-alabama-football-recruit-switches-to-georgia-tech/
I believe that this is regarding
an athlete that wants to play QB and thinks GT will give him the best chance to do so…
I don’t think it has anything to do with Winston.
Not so sure about that....
On Wednesday, Florida State recruiting coordinator Demayune Craig showed up at Thomas’ school to try to convince him to consider the Seminoles, which are "strictly" recruiting Thomas at QB
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by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 14, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Malzahn is thinking he will get out of Auburn while he can.
His offense minus Newton sucks. Ark St is a 10-2 team I think with most of the players returning. He can go there for one year, coach them to 11-1 and a bowl win and leave for a big HC job afterwards. I think that is his strategy anyway. His stock is dropping like a rock at Auburn.
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by cerebralfish on Dec 14, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
He's got the hot hand, it shows you how clueless administrations can be
When a guy like Chad Morris, 3 years removed from HS coaching, jumps from 80k to 1.3m in 5 years, it isn’t an indicator of him being a complete genius. It’s an indicator that his predecessor was a talent-ruining machine, and he was able to get young guys to buy in to the scheme and play well. Malzahn and Morris, good coaches? Definitely. Great coaches worth more than 1m/yr? Jury’s still out.
That kid is a great athlete but
I don’t think Winston would have much trouble beating him out at QB
Think you are missing the point…we wouldn’t be recruiting him “strictly as a QB” if we were certain Winston was coming here. Maybe the coaches don’t feel confident on Winston anymore.
Ahhh... I thought you were talking about Winston being mad we were recruiting another QB...
They might just be trying to get as many top tier athletes as possible… I don’t know and most of us won’t until after the signing period is over for the MLB
Winston may play baseball. Always have to have a backup plan.
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by pasadenanole22 on Dec 14, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that was the other QB prospect we have committed? Just seems strange they would risk alienating Winston. We would be fine at QB even if Winston did play baseball.
Depends on how talented the kid is.
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by pasadenanole22 on Dec 14, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
You’re assuming the kid is being truthful.
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According to the kid.
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5'9" correct?
Our staff has some rules with regard to recruits, as I understand it. And 5’9" QBs aren’t being offered by FSU as QBs. There is nothing else they could do to get an offer.
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That's what Rex Ryan said.
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by Jamil Dawson on Dec 14, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A picture is worth a thousand words
And sometimes, it can be worth millions of bucks too!
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Jenn Sterger
She should be obscene and not heard.
Or maybe she should be heard being obscene?
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by Sobering on Dec 14, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I make a motion that henceforth "Elite Ankles"
be discontinued on this site. Need ricobert to approve and ratify.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I thought it was banned.
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by pasadenanole22 on Dec 14, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
try as you might, you can't ban veiled references...
(cue Chinese censors feverishly sifting through printouts of DRusso’s body of work)
Must go back to its origin to properly kill it.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh. Does that mean endless usage of "scoreboard"?
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by pasadenanole22 on Dec 14, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Of course.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
thats like saying you invented the color red for ketchup bottles...
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
For this, I salute you.
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by Jamil Dawson on Dec 14, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
i heard the only way to kill a saying
Is to permanently ban the originator. It’s the stake through the heart vampire method we all learned from the cokehead coreys in the lost boys.
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by JaxNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I plan to eradicate the words "wrong" and "uninformed"
by warning and then banning Bud.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
vaderesque.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." - GEN George S. Patton
Huge difference.
TWSS is funny, if it is set uo well and strategically used.
“Elite Ankles” is just…well….not funny anymore.
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
… you’re becoming Geoff…
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the problem w/ twss is people who use it irresponsibly
its kinda like alcohol – when misused its painful and gives one a headache
but when used properly it gets one laid in a hurry…
by 000111 on Dec 14, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fixed it for you...
its kinda likealcoholrohypnol – when misused its painful and gives one a headache
but when used properly it gets one laid in a hurry…
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by DRusso97 on Dec 14, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
perhaps youre not using alcohol correctly
or perhaps youre actually sea bass and you have a lot of free time…
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by DRusso97 on Dec 14, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i was the first one to get banned
By dot com.
Be nice to Muschamp, he might be our next Linebacker Coach.
“…tried to kill it by not using it for several months, and it still lives.”
TWSS
by Nole33 on Dec 14, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
rec’d
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 14, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I could kiss you
One warning, then a banhammer.
While you’re in an authoritative mood, can you move to make the following bannable offenses?
1) Excessive exclamation point usage
2) Irrelevant or unoriginal photoshop material
Just a thought, of course…obviously “Elite Ankles” takes priority (at least IMO it does).
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
IIRC, you were opposed at the beginning.
and we ignored your warning.
#LessonLearned
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Nah...it was funny for like a week, when used cleverly.
But after that first week, I saw a TN pandemic for which there was little hope for a cure…oh well.
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 5:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Speaking of banning....
Did we not ban the use of the antiquated 1,2,3….system of numeration?
Florida IS the state of college football....And Tallahassee is its Capitol!!!!
by Mellocello63 on Dec 14, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
That ban has been banned.
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Jimbo Fisher is now 4-0 against UF and UM.
by pasadenanole22 on Dec 14, 2011 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Is a double ban the same as no ban?
Is there grammar for banning dummies?
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I love this site
but the Elite Ankles bit got old fast
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by SteadfastNole on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Elite Wrists
are more important anyway
by MarchantWarchant on Dec 15, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
I really wish FSU was playing Auburn in the chicken bowl now…they are in total disarray.
by arkansasnole on Dec 14, 2011 1:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ditto
Great point. Was hoping for the ’burn all along
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by The Ryno and I Know on Dec 14, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Plus
Last I heard UVA had not sold out its tickets. We have. NCSt has. But not UVA, unless they’ve accomplished it in the last 24 hours or so.
they're offering a free monocle and top hate with every purchase...
should help.
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by JaxNole on Dec 14, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hate? hat. idiot.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." - GEN George S. Patton
Stoops/Muschamp
Crazy thought. If Stoops leaves for Auburn, maybe Jimbo’s beach buddy Muschamp leaves the gayturds and becomes FSU’s new DC…
Muschamp will at least get 3 years before he gets the ax
I think what is more likely is Florida going after Dan Mullen once Muschamp’s gone.
Not a Florida guy? He brought them 2 national titles
He’s by definition a Florida guy
by CCDFSU07 on Dec 15, 2011 11:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is Urban a Florida guy?
Same thing. He’s not from Florida. Hence, not a Florida guy. I meant state, not university, of Florida. It’s not his “dream job”, he grew up in PA.
Think you're misunderstanding the use of "Florida guy".
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Considering Florida's money, his ties to the program, the league, how does he not qualify as a Florida guy
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Dec 15, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
So is Mark Stoops a Miami guy?
got great ties to the program and help create that 2001 team. I think the point is that Mullen wasn’t born and raised in FL and other then Meyer had no real connection to Florida. Much more pride in PA since thats were he grew up
If miami wasn't a dumpster fire then yes stoops would have ties.
If Mullen is offered the UF job, I’d bet he takes it. That means he is a florida guy in my book.
A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2
by PalmAireNole on Dec 15, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
So then
when Mullen and Meyer had zero connection to UF because they were at Utah they were “Florida Guys”… No maybe I’m with Trick, but to me a Florida guy is a guy who grew up in Florida or has ties to the state and thus the program but not a temporary tie to the program. Mullen has already spent as much time at Miss St as a he did at UF. In my definition he is not a Florida guy, but rather a coach who coached at Florida.
fair enough.
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by PalmAireNole on Dec 16, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
Why would he leave a HC job at UF, one of the most highly sought after jobs, making a crapload of money
to make less money and have to take orders from another HC?
by bphillips11 on Dec 14, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Just
throwing it out there. I know it’s highly unlikely but crossed my mind…
by ColoradoNole on Dec 14, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Randy Shannon
might be a better possibility
by newdynastynole on Dec 14, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
one of the worst posts ever - well done
by 93noleman on Dec 14, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Wait....wait...this just in
Jimbo leaves FSU to be the new UF OC for his beach buddy Muschamp
Did Malzahn jump too soon?
Looks like Pitt opened up.
Is ASU better than Pitt? I wouldn’t think so, at least not by much. Historically I would say NO, but I guess the Pac 12 money and all.
Gus went to Arkansas State.
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by Jamil Dawson on Dec 14, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Nevermind me.
I read your initial post wrong.
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by Jamil Dawson on Dec 14, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
And the ASU I was referring to
is Arizona State, where Todd Graham was just hired.
Clearly, Pitt is better than Arkansas State.
See my post above.
I’m an idiot. Let’s pretend this never happened.
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by Jamil Dawson on Dec 14, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
I don't THINK Pitt is gonna hire a first time HC...
They have run through a buncha guys in the past year or so…
However, given where Stoops is from, & what he’s rumored to want out of an HC job…
I’m not saying I think they’d hire him. I AM saying that the HC position at Pitt has gotta be something that could raise his eyebrow (maybe even both)
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe another exDolphin coach
Sparano could be the second coming of Dave “the Stache” .
by NoleySmokes on Dec 14, 2011 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
sparano,,,that would be amazing
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
All about the money
This will be the plague of the ACC from this point forward…
Yep.
All those off season discussions about SEC $$$, confetence realignment, etc are hitting much closer to home now, methinks.
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 5:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sure, jump to the SEC
We just went 5-3 in the ACC! I’d like to remain bowl eligible and even some extra money to throw at Stoops won’t help us with that in the SEC.
Completely, and totally, false. With SEC money/prestige you retain Stoops, Craig, Gran, etc.
Recruiting stays hot, you have the talent and coaching to succeed in SEC east. We were de facto SEC east champs last year, and barring insane injury luck we’d win it again (and the ACC for that matter). We are 2009 OU, with more injuries.
Better depth in certain positions, not as much top-end talent.
OU had 4 1st-round picks. 2011 might, but they are spread through multiple classes…
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Shortest sighted thinking of all
No proof to back it up. If this was the case, why don’t ACC/Big East schools EVER contend for the National Title since the seismic TV money tilted the playing field. By does the most difficult conference always win the national title?
More to the point, please research the University of South Carolina pre joining the SEC and post joining the SEC.
Who is riding the weak schedule to a national title? How did that work out for Ok St, Stanford, VT, etc.
The money and competition in the SEC would make us better than we’ll ever be in the ACC.
Bravo
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by PalmAireNole on Dec 15, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
We aren't even contending in the ACC!
We would be a middle of the pack SEC team in terms of resources. Bama/Auburn/UGA/LSU/UF and even Arky would all be ahead of us. We would probably be on the SCAR/UT level. How do you expect to compete with these teams?
We are the top dog in resources in the ACC and we can’t even win it!
False.
We aren’t even contending in the ACC!
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I guess winning the conference twice in the last 10 years is contending.
At any rate, we aren’t exactly dominating a much weaker conference.
quote
We aren’t even contending in the ACC!
Last year we played for the Championship..
True or False Playing for a championship is contending.
So we've contended once in the last 5 years?
I guess that is contending. This year we were 3rd in our division, which definitely is not…
Tied for 2nd
but 3rd due to tiebreaker and one game back record wise out of first in the division. I guess Arkansas isn’t a contender for the SEC either ya know? I mean they only went 10-2 but they finished third. They finished 6th in the BCS but since they
were 3rd inclearly they weren’t really contending for anything.ourtheir division, which definitely is not…
See the issue is that to be a contender you’d expect to have a chance. We did. We blew those chances but we had them this year. Contending for a championship means that you’d expect 2-3/5 times you win the division and 1-2/5 you also win the conference. Would you say that UF has been a contender for the SEC East? They had a down year this year but that doesn’t mean they hadn’t been contending..
We're just going to have to agree to disagree here bro...
We haven’t won the ACC in 6 years. We’ve played in the ACCGC once in that same period. Call it what you will.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree
My contention is that contending doesn’t have to mean winning. i.e. Boise St has been a NC contender for the past couple of years but didn’t see a sniff of the BCS CG.
What top football programs does the Big East/ACC have?
Zero. Of course these teams are not competing for titles! The SEC has 4-5 of the most prestigious college football programs of all time. These teams would win titles in any conference.
Do you think Boise State would magically be able to compete for titles if they were in the SEC? Of course not! The would be a mid tier team at best in the SEC, just like us.
I might as well be, that guy
“Did Malzahn jump too soon? Looks like Pitt opened up”
That’s what she dread.
It's what we learn after we know it all that counts. John Wooden
What's Up at Auburn?
After recently winning the National Championship…….Why would their defensive coordinator (Ted Roof) leave for the same position at Central Florida. A definite downgrade.
Why would their offensive coordinator (Gus Malzahn) leave to be the head coach at Arkansas State? A backwater school with very little prestige?
Is the NCAA about to put the hammer down? What is happening in the background at Auburn? Why is everyone jumping ship?
Abiaka was a powerful spiritual leader who used his "medicine" to stir Seminole warriors into a frenzy.
No, not crazy. She’s your typical bored housewife that thinks her life is HI-LARIOUS. I see this iteration every day. But, yeah. Kill it with fire.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Dec 14, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think she thinks she is hilarious, not her life
she keeps saying shut up as her tired as* punch line.
'see da broad ta get tha booty yackum, layem down smackum yackum...ho got ta be.... shiiiiiit!' 'early to bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise'
Didn't you notice it was the same "shut up" clip repeated through the whole bit?
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by PalmAireNole on Dec 14, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah selective editing
is the best. Now we know why Cam Newton went to Auburn. Not for money, you know.
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by Matt Champion on Dec 14, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I've met bored housewives.
Not one was as ditzy as her. Malzahn’s wife clearly never got out of high school.
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by Drew J Jones on Dec 14, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno. We all play dumb when we really want something (women, that is). Malzahn’s wife just strikes me as the type that talks about how she needs “her” time on her bluetooth while getting her nails done during a day at the mall. Their lives are always SO HARD.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Dec 14, 2011 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
She's not faking.....that's really her.
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Michael Dyer is also suspended indefinitely for violation of an “unspecified” team rule. Something is definitely going on there.
by arkansasnole on Dec 14, 2011 2:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not at Auburn
They have such a rep for running a clean program.
/Sarcasm
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by TheJim on Dec 14, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dyer is transferring.
by Widespread Seminole on Dec 14, 2011 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He attended too many classes. Chizik has a strict policy on this.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
nice
i also heard he was attempting to teach a teammate to read…
strike two
Suspended because he gave the money back
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Dec 14, 2011 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he's the new wire man for 60 minutes
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by JaxNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
HAHAHHAHAHAHHA
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
Couple of things...
Auburns defense wasnt great in.2010, IMO, and I was told Roof was encouraged to explore otger options.
Aa far as Malzahn goes, & admittedly this is not an original thought, ASU is a good sun belt program that is close to his hometown. Also, it appears that the hiring of Coordinators for first time HC’s could be trending downward. By going to Arky State, alot of the shortcomings he’ll most certainly have won’t be magnified a la Muschamp, Fisher. It seems that he can “figure it out” close to home, then come back for the right job at the right time.
IMO it’s a pretty prudent move, definitely focuses on.QOL and long term goals.
Auburn sold their soul, & it paid off. It won’t be rocky for long, IMO. Too many good things around them to stay down.
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
QOL? You cant survive in arkansas on a measily $600k!
He can barely afford to buy the necessary 4 burned out cars on blocks that must adorn your front yard..its state law.
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by JaxNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
i thought the cars were like defense attornies:
‘if you cannot afford numerous burned out cars on blocks, a few junkers will be provided for your trailer…’
ah my mistake, they're all about social justice in the ARK.
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by JaxNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HD article
Thats cool, I didn’t know we played 3 DE’s this year.
Not sure if serious
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by AMFKNole on Dec 14, 2011 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
She listed him as a DE
He does play DT for us right?
i cant decide if she's hot or not
as in, i can’t decide that if she was at ken’s at 1:59am alone naked i’d talk to her.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." - GEN George S. Patton
Unless she is under a heat lamp, no
See what I did there…
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Nothing at Ken's at 1:59 AM has been worthwhile inn 3-4 years
Really went downhill
they added liquor recently
talent INSTANTLY upgraded.
#after5shots
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Tony Sparano for offensive coordinator at Florida!!
#jumpingonthetrainearly
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 14, 2011 2:00 PM EST reply actions
I personally think Jeff Bowden would be an excellent fit as the OC at Florida. It would also guarantee the Saturday after Thanksgiving would be glorious in Tallahassee for years to come.
by arkansasnole on Dec 14, 2011 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Tony Saprano
is currently looking at the recruiting co-ordinator postition at UM. He’s told Shalala that he can make every prospective recruit a deal they can’t refuse and he likes the idea of tapping into the millions of dollars that Shapiro has to offer.He was spotted riding in his car on South Beach with a “SCUM” license plate.
Supposed to be announced later today.
Say whaa?
If we can't laugh at ourselves, Packer fans will call us crybabies and we will be forced to kick their tooth in. I really don't want to go to jail (again).
by Alittlemore_cowbell on Dec 14, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Look everybody!
A young Yoda!
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by Jamil Dawson on Dec 14, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
use the swartz
Be nice to Muschamp, he might be our next Linebacker Coach.
uber rec
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
by stevegrizzle on Dec 14, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Why do people type “rec” but not click the recommend button?
by CrimiNole Defense on Dec 14, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Wait a minute, you mean just because someone types it doesn't make it happen/mean it's true?
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it says uber rec
so a regular rec you be inapropriate.
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
by stevegrizzle on Dec 14, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Assholes! I am surrounded by assholes!
RWHUGHESJR
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Confused Sports Radio Call In: I'm a Gators fan.
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She looks like a half-shaved Ewok
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by BossNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This would be a great caption contest photo.
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 5:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the low cut shirt does wonders for her turkey neck
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by JaxNole on Dec 14, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
She looks constipated.
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She looks like she just farted.
And can’t tell if what she’s smelling is her lunch or dinner.
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my caption
Come at me bro
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by stevegrizzle on Dec 14, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
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by DRusso97 on Dec 14, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Are we certain she's not the love child of
Billie Jean King and Frank Beamer? There’s a lot of both…if you look close enough.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't be mean
No one should look that close
by MarchantWarchant on Dec 15, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
C'mon, Tony doesn't deserve that.
He may have been a failure, but Tony’s good people, k? And he doesn’t need to be coaching under that sorry Al Golden lookalike, k?
/k?
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by Drew J Jones on Dec 14, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
In order to be considered "elite" size
a defensive lineman must be a minimum of 6" 9" tall and weigh at least 375 lbs.
If you fall short then you are just considered “big”.
Bill Brasky was the model for an "elite" size DE
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by NorFla_Nole on Dec 14, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
elite size:
you have to be a 10 foot tall beast man who showers in vodka and feeds his babies shrimp scampi…obviously.
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William wallace is 7 feet tall
Yes, i’ve heard and if he were here he would shoot fire from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse.
I am william wallace
Idiotic
How can a guy lack elite size and strength when he is 300 lbs plus and moving guards around liek they are a dessert cart?
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Jimbo and Stoops
So why don’t they have a good relationship ? ?
Inquiring minds want to know.........Cheap HMO marriage counselor
according to the latest article I saw in the National Inquirer. Here’s the link….national.inquirer@knowsnothing.com
Jimbo's a Belieber. Mark ain't.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess my major problem with the whole Stoops thing is that he hasn’t said a word either way. If you’re entertaining it, great. If not, please say so. If FSU hasn’t offered him a raise, someone needs to start making phone calls. But all of this rumor and conjecture can’t be good for recruiting. Stoops has to know this at the bare minimum, and I am just confused as to why he’d let it continue if there’s no truth to it.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Dec 14, 2011 2:49 PM EST reply actions
If Jimbo doesn't let his coaches talk to the media
how can Stoops say anything?
'see da broad ta get tha booty yackum, layem down smackum yackum...ho got ta be.... shiiiiiit!' 'early to bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise'
That gets a rec.
'see da broad ta get tha booty yackum, layem down smackum yackum...ho got ta be.... shiiiiiit!' 'early to bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise'
I was wondering if that had anything to do with it.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Dec 14, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
This seems like a good time
to start the “FSU is better off without Stoops” discussion.
Go.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Mark Stoops has earned the right to leave on his own terms
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by AMFKNole on Dec 14, 2011 3:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's just #OnePlayerAway
And that 1 player……is an All American Guard
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by DRusso97 on Dec 14, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For a cool mil?
Hell yes. We can buy 5 Cam Newtons for that.
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Might overstretch the laptop replacement budget.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
And that's a rec.
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by Drew J Jones on Dec 14, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
He put too much strain on our offense by creating three and out situations for the opposing offense
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by BossNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Assume FSU is working with boosters to see if there's a way we can keep him
Otherwise he’d be gone by now…
by LouC on Dec 14, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Good point
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Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do & die, Into the valley of Death Rode the 85.
by Shooter McFrattin on Dec 14, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think its played much better silently
wait for everthing to sort out before you go to the press……..the only down side i can think of is us junkies not knowing
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
by stevegrizzle on Dec 14, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Haha. The racist Jody Allen
Let’s bring him back. Guarantee we’ll have more transfers than Maryland.
by CCDFSU07 on Dec 15, 2011 11:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Auburn and FSU can work out a deal here
Auburn gets Mark Stoops as DC at a discount, say $700k, but they have to put the extra cash towards hiring Clemson’s Chad Morris to replace Malzahn.
Considering we’ve got Greg Hudson to replace Stoops, and Clemson has to rely on whoever Dabo can find, I think we’ll come out ahead on that deal easily. No way Dabo makes all star hires in consecutive seasons.
That plan...
is JUST CRAZY ENOUGH to work!
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
Can't we involve Les Miles, somehow?
Voodoo might help this plan.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
i do think we are entitled
To some buyout money. Or at least some tallboys.
Be nice to Muschamp, he might be our next Linebacker Coach.
Dabo
For all the continued condemnation many have for Dabo, the boy keeps winning. He is a lot like Les Miles. I bet he laughs all the way to the trophy cabinet every day.
RWHUGHESJR
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: I'm looking for one brave Gators fan to call, just one. Oh so Gators fans talk trash all the time but when they play a game and lose nobody has the guts to call in?
Leonard: What are Gators?
Henry Desalvo: Football. College.
Confused Sports Radio Call In: I'm a Gators fan.
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: And what do you have to say?
Confused Sports Radio Call In: You said that Gators fans don't have the guts to call in.
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: Your point?
Confused Sports Radio Call In: My point is that I'm calling you now.
Leonard: [notices Snake and Eddie escorting Arthur wearing dark-colored pantyhose on their head] Is that him?
Henry Desalvo: I think we got Gator fans.
but he also answers the toaster every day too
and likely laughs about that as well
More important questions:
If Mark leaves, are we really ready for Fat Trent Dilfer to be our DC?
Can we make Hudson 3:16 shirts?
How will James Coley feel about losing the Tubbs to his Crockett? (Tubbs was the black guy right?)
by MattDNole on Dec 14, 2011 3:01 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Would we not put on a search for an elite DC?
I know Hudson did good work at East Carolina, but I don’t know, I’m really not a fan of having unproven, inexperienced coaches as both OC and DC.
Well, neither the OC or DC would be unproven because they’ve both been very successful as coordinators.
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by Bud Elliott on Dec 14, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You think James Coley is a proven OC? I thought Fisher was basically calling the shots still.
And I just mean Hudson isn’t proven at this level…though I’m not sure what level the ACC is on anymore.
Hudson used to stuff VT with ECU athletes
But agree on Coley.
by FredGarvin...NoleProstitute on Dec 14, 2011 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I consider Fisher the OC
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Why? Because he calls the plays?
LOL.
No doubt in my mind. Not sure why Coley has the title really. Maybe to get our minds off of the play of the veteran tight ends?
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I went to the Liberty Bowl after the 09 season in which Arkansas and East Carolina played. ECU was physical and disciplined and punched Arkansas in the mouth and if not for like 5 missed FGs would have beaten Arkansas. So there’s an example of a Hudson coached defense with way less talented players against an SEC offense. I have confidence in Hudson if he becomes DC at any point.
by arkansasnole on Dec 14, 2011 3:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
^ - This. I have no worries about Hudson as DC....and I actually have slightly higher expectations due to past performance.
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by DRusso97 on Dec 14, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you.
Greg Hudson can run a defense. Thats for sure…
I do believe he has a thing or two to learn about big boy recruiting, but I think he could easily learn.
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly
Which is why the plan all along was for Mark to resurrect the D while showing Dilfer Hudson the ropes, then bolt for a big-time job to be replaced by Dilfer Hudson. Everyone wins.
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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 14, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mark Stoops was exactly what FSU needed, when it needed it.
Turned around the defense & made it elite. Hudson’s defenses were known to force a ridiculous amount of turnovers, and to play about their talent on a consistent basis. The turnover margin is something FSU can improve upon to take the step from “elite” to “out of this world”.
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as long as he keeps FSU in the top 5 nationally, that's a win
id take this defense right now consistently.
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Being in the top 5 consistently is a little far IMO
Top 15-20 is a little more realistic
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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 14, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
true.
just saying that id take this defense without any “upgrades” or the like.
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Oh
absolutely
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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 14, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
itd be nice to get more turnovers, etc, but screw it.
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Me too, and I'm saying he will consistently field top-10 defenses.
More turnovers = better offense.
(cough Wake Forest coughcough)
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totally agree..we may not be top 10 every year
but turnovers will make us dominate. VT’s defense last year was living on that.
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With FSU's talent, a lot of guys could run a defense.
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by cerebralfish on Dec 14, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't go THAT far. Stoops is a VERY good DC.
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He is very good, but a lot of guys could be good with our talent.
Its not like there is a shortage of DC’s that can perform at a high level at FSU with our talent. I much more worried about Gran possibly leaving.
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by cerebralfish on Dec 15, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed!
I think that there are a ton of them out there, most of whom I don’t know the name of.
If Coach Fisher is the great coach for our program that we think/hope he is though, he’ll find a replacement that’s more than capable. If he doesn’t find one, then, by definition, he’s not the coach that we think/hope he is, seems to me.
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"Good", yes. Elite......no--not very many.
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In 2 years from mid 90's to top 10
how do you define elite?
not saying he is either way but definitely not saying hes not in yr 2 with how far weave come
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by stevegrizzle on Dec 15, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
That was in reply to Cerebral implying that lots of DC'scould do what Stoops has done with the available talent.
A lot of DC’s could field a “good” defense…..not many could field an “elite” one.
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i said weave
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by stevegrizzle on Dec 16, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
If we could afford an elite DC
than we wouldn’t need to be hiring a DC in the first place…
Huh?
Even if FSU can pay him $1M/year, they shouldnt do it. If AU wants to pay him only so that he leaves them in a year, then let him.
I really like Stoops and I hope he stay and even if FSU ups his salary by 200K I’d be fine with it. But I’m not paying a DC $1M/year.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
No Shawn,
That was George Michaels
Be nice to Muschamp, he might be our next Linebacker Coach.
I've counted ME Jr as a lost weeks ago
If I’m wrong? great, I’m shielding myself from disappointment early. I personally like Casher and Fowler just as much as ME Jr, but I want them all lol
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Welcome to pessimism, friend:
Constantly proven right, and if not you’re pleasantly surprised with the result.
What are you glorifying with your life?
by ricobert1 on Dec 14, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It's really the most logical way to live life.
Either things work out as expected, or you’re pleasntly surprised.
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
expect shitstorm, hope for sunshine.
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Pascal's Wager
Kind of a Pascal’s Wager way to live.
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So why did Bellamy get suspended?
And whats the news with Mike Davis from Clemson? I heard he added to the suspicions that Clemson pays players.
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I was told Bellamy was caught smoking in the team hotel
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VT's defense.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
I do believe I rec'd that as soon as it appeared on my screen.
What are you glorifying with your life?
You my friend, are a complete idiot.
I mean that as a compliment.
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by Jamil Dawson on Dec 14, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
-2 for
implying facts matter and being a stick in the mud.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 14, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
That stupid, and still on the team? wow...
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by WinstonSalemNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody dismisses a player for getting caught smoking weed once unless they’re just looking for a reason to. Nobody who wants to win, that is.
>>---l>
True.
But doesn’t he have a history?…With that said if it was one of our star players I wouldn’t want him off the team either lol
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by WinstonSalemNole on Dec 14, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, he has a history
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Plus it was a non-smoking room
by FredGarvin...NoleProstitute on Dec 14, 2011 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Mike Davis Tweet
Mike Davis tweeted this FWIW
@Mike28davis
Home visit with Clemson
Then after they got there he tweeted this…
5 hours ago
@Mike28davis
100 thousand dollar in a rubber band
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by Old Buc on Dec 14, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well THAT wasn't very smart.....
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100 thousand of anything is clearly plural.
by SolidNole on Dec 14, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Excellent.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Dec 15, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Wait
WHAAAAT…
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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 14, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
...Or the lungs that inhaled the weed
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by WinstonSalemNole on Dec 14, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
"i just thought it was a great day to be chris rainey!"
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nope...but he did say that when asked about accepting cash.
#gotocomment
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Is that like saying
But he did stay at a Holiday Inn express last night?
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I wouldn't dismiss anybody for it.
But I’m shamelessly in favor of winning and couldn’t care less about college kids smoking pot in a hotel.
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by Drew J Jones on Dec 14, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
You would if it was your pot.
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by pasadenanole22 on Dec 14, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Im sure Clemson is not
the only team doing it, but they are doing it at alarming rates.
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Ya I heard the "Explainations" too
“A Clemson official told The Post and Courier that the photos were meant to be a joke.
Of course no one knows whether the money was real or whether Bellamy’s photos were computer enhanced, but the overriding opinion is that it was a harmless prank by an 18-year-old kid — a prank that will probably have him running stadium steps until he vomits."
I fail to see the humor too. Mostly because it was not a joke. The computer enhancement thing is more funny to me.
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No, I harbor no illusions that it was a joke. I won’t argue that they provide financial incentives to their recruits and players. I will argue that the belief that they do so to a greater extent than other major programs is unfounded.
>>---l>
by DKfromVA on Dec 14, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think they do
because of the emense talent they got after a 6-7 season. I get that good teams can do that like Florida, but not Clemson. And they get them out of Florida? 1….maybe 2…..eehhhh 3 or more? no. 3 or more = cheat
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incense
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Merry Christmas everyone
by CCDFSU07 on Dec 15, 2011 12:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2 bits!!!!
FSU back-2-back state champs!! 52-14
by CashvilleNole on Dec 15, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Not hear buddy
I let FlaGators escort you to the door
by CCDFSU07 on Dec 15, 2011 4:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll follow you out too as I grab a spelling book on the way out
Lulz
by CCDFSU07 on Dec 15, 2011 4:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Such arbitrary numeric standards. Failing to see the attractiveness of a staff of talented recruiters, a program with good resources and facilities, and then claiming that they’re dirtier than the rest of their competitors smacks of naivete.
>>---l>
well, since they already got busted in the early 90's for it
and kept the same staff and leadership (pat dye took a job in the athletic dept after the scandal) its safe to say they didn’t give an F about their punishment. and continued post haste.
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I'm halfway between the viewpoints, really.
I think their staff is very aggressive to get their product in front of recruits (mostly because they haven’t done anything as of late).
Secondly, I think Clemson would be a desirable place to play, honestly. Which is why I think financial incetives to bigtime recruits is smart on.their part. Everything to gain, not much to lose.
But their recruits do some duuuumb stuff.
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by CornNole on Dec 14, 2011 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Unfounded for now. Did you see how quickly Clowney tuned in to Clemson late in the game last year?
They’ve seen a ridiculous amount of elite recruits coming through the past few years. A lot of them from Florida, no less.
And you don’t think South Carolina was providing major incentives as well? Recruiting is a dirty game, guys. Relations with players while they’re on campus is dirty too.
>>---l>
If you’re not reading the implications of what I’m saying then I can’t really help you any further. I don’t want to get into a full-on discussion of this stuff. it doesn’t help anyone.
>>---l>
i think i agreed with you
Im just sayin Clemson is doing it so I care more about it.
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hey do you think DABO SWINNEY PAYS RECRUITS?
just wondering.
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I'm sure Dabo can swing you one way or another..
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I’m sure Dabo can swing you one way or another..
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Just a pet peeve of mine
I think it makes people look extremely naive when they talk about one school being so much dirtier than others in this regard.
>>---l>
by DKfromVA on Dec 14, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
there's definitely positives for playing at every school
but it just makes you wonder about places like auburn and clemson…especially after dismal seasons
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Clemson has been relatively comparable to FSU the past ~ 5-6 years
and I don’t hear anybody questioning how FSU is able to pull in 3 straight top 10 classes. I agree with everything DK has said.
But what does that matter?
If Clemson and others are paying and FSU is not, why would the kids decide to pass up the money and go to FSU? Because FSU is in their home state? That doesn’t make sense at all.
A lot of these kids grow up without money. If money were offered by one school and not the other, the kid is gonna follow the money. Where the talent is located would be a moot point.
I think you misunderstood
If both are paying I would assume the kid would stay closer to home. If both are not paying I would still assume the majority would stay closer to home.
So basically the reason people don’t question why FSU is able to pull in 3 straight top ten classes vs Clemson’s classes is because all things being equal FSU should pull in better classes. Because of the talent in FL compared to the talent in SC.
Not to say Clemson doesn’t have a lot to offer a recruit, just that most recruits will stay close to home. I wouldn’t expect FSU to be able to consistently pull top SC kids from Clemson either.
Others in this thread have implied that others cheat, but FSU doesn't
If all things are equal, yes FSU should have better classes. But if Clemson is cheating and FSU is not, it doesn’t make sense that FSU would be able to outrecruit Clemson.
Do you agree that if Clemson were paying and FSU was not that Clemson would get the recruits?
Yeah of course.
Just like if FSU were paying and USCe and Clemson weren’t FSU fans would be talking about the amazing job Clowney did at FSU this year.
But since none of this can be proven anyways…
i'd like to think none of us are that much of a homer
everyone cheats. Our recruits just don’t provide pictures of themselves holding wads of cash.
That is a good point.
I don’t think that is proof one team is not doing it. But it raises the question why other teams recruits can take picture with huge sums of cash or ridding in their brand new corvette.
Yea but
Clemson can’t pay every top recruit in Florida and that explains why they can only get certain recruits from Florida and not all
by TheRenegade29 on Dec 15, 2011 6:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For the record
I also agree with DK, just that some schools can hide it better. When New Mexico State starts pulling elite recruits out of Fl people are gonna ask questions.
didn’t they do that with calvin smith?
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by SteadfastNole on Dec 14, 2011 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
You mean the fact that Clemson has been horse crap for 2 decades while FSU has not?
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We also had a major coaching change
That is was sparked higher level recruiting classes as of late.
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Yep.
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by Drew J Jones on Dec 14, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
CLEMSON IS ONE OF OUR RIVALS!!!1
A rival school has had several pics of new players with a lot of cash. Yes other schools cheat but A) They are one of our rivals 2) Pics have surfaced like crazy D) Dabo 9) In our division 226) Dabo
Listen to my response and try to understand I am agreeing with you. OTHER SCHOOLS CHEAT. ok?
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Baseball player was trying to explain what his roommate’s date looked like, and just wasn’t able to accurately portrey her.
Finally he just said it, “she looked like Joe Torre with tits.”
I don’t think he ever made it to the ankles.
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At the risk of attracting more smarmy remarks,
I’ll suggest once again this does not necessarily make good financial sense if Stoops thinks he’s going to be a HC after after next year at FSU. (And many of us were speculating when he was hired that he’d be gone in 2-3 years).
Say we counteroffer $750K, but Auburn is offering $500K more than that. (He would make roughly $10K more each week, for the folks sniggering yesterday that he would jump at $8K more per week) .
But by jumping to Auburn, he pushes his HC plans back by at least a year (it will take at least 2 years to change things at AU, assuming he does that in a tougher league). The salary he could have had as a head coach for that 1 addtional year would very well have been $1Million more than he is making at AU.
So he ends up losing about $20k per week for that year (and that may be for more than 1 year) that he could havemade as an HC. Why take that financial risk, especially when he has to start over in a tougher league?
Again, if the tipping point is his relationship with Jimbo, then that may be another symptom of a bigger management problem at FSU.
So far, the last 2 years we're 6-8 vs. teams with winning records. And we play in the ACC. Process is no substitute for Progress.
by PeachTreeNole on Dec 14, 2011 6:32 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
(i.e., he nets a loss of $10K per week more than had he stayed at FSU and on the path to be a HC after next year.)
So far, the last 2 years we're 6-8 vs. teams with winning records. And we play in the ACC. Process is no substitute for Progress.
by PeachTreeNole on Dec 14, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
great thought, but if he was going to jump at auburn...I think we would have heard it by now...
now Pitt on the other hand is a whole different story, one that is the realm of becoming reality.
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It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Dec 14, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention if he didnt enjoy carrying our offense, he will have a blast with Auburn's..
Somewhere in the 100-110 ranked offense nationally. They absolutely suck which is exactly why the quickest way for their OC to become a HC is to get the hell out of there before his stock drops and he gets booted by rabid Auburn fans who realize Newton carried him.
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by cerebralfish on Dec 14, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
And don’t forget Alabama state income tax being a small factor.
by ttubasketball on Dec 14, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
The salary he could have had as a head coach for that 1 addtional year would very well have been $1Million more than he is making at AU.
You are saying his first year head coaching would bring in over 2 million? I don’t agree
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by PalmAireNole on Dec 15, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
Feels as though the "wheels on the bus are falling off" after the last few days
This pathetic season might have cost Jimbo a heck of alot more than a 10 win season… maybe on track for his job…
1. Coaches gone
2. Mass extrodus of top recruits.
Team shaken by #1 loses it bowl making number #2 even worse…
Does not feel good be a nole at all right now.
1 - 2 Jimbo's coming for you, 3 - 4 Gator’s better lock their door, 5 - 6 grap your crucifix, 7 – 8 Muschamp better stay up late, 9 - 10 never sleep again!!!
none of those things have happened
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by SteadfastNole on Dec 14, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
We like to sh!t with the door open. We talk about pu$$y. We go on riverboat gambling trips. We make our own beef jerky. That’s what we do! And now that is ALL wrecked!!
by The K-Man on Dec 14, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
POW!
Why is it every time I get 3 stars of police notoriety on GTA IV, Al Golden calls me asking for my commitment?
by Sir Lawrence J on Dec 14, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
You and I,
have literally never done any of those things
Semi4ever
Wow. Step away from the edge. If you had been a Nole for awhile you would understand that the bad comes with the good. Find a new team to be BFF with, us Noles don’t need your kind.
I'd be mad too if i had a semi4ever.
just enough to be annoying, but not enough to do anything about it. the horror
by duvalnole on Dec 14, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The Seminoles are still America's team
Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear
by DocHoliday2 on Dec 15, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Too much copper doc
i kid. ?
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
by stevegrizzle on Dec 15, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Doc's words carry so much weight
that they would break the jaw of a lesser man.
There's something fishy
I don’t know what’s going on but first Auburn’s Defensive Coordinator Ted Roof leaves to be a defensive coordinator at Central Florida then a week later their offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn leaves taking a 40% pay cut to be the head coaching job at Arkansas State. I wonder how likable Gene Chizik is cause there has to be a reason these guys are booking it out of there. I think that there is a good chance Stoops in just flirting with Auburn so FSU steps up and gives him a pay increase.
I don’t think there is any doubt that Roof was effectively fired, is there?
As for Malzahn, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he was unhappy at Auburn, but let’s not discount the allure of being a head coach. If he was unhappy at Auburn, however, it almost certainly was because he was being limited in what he was allowed to do. Auburn was 110th in the country in total plays run in 2011. That’s not what Malzahn wants. Plus it seems obvious that Malzahn was getting bypassed for bigger HC jobs (maybe because of his wife, who knows) – look at how many good jobs were open this year and he was bypassed. There are plenty of people in the world that give up higher paying jobs in exchange for more control over their own destiny or to run their own business/company. I guess it just seems unusual in college coaching these days since it seems like coaches are just going wherever they can find the biggest pile of cash.
That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Stoops is trying to leverage Auburn to get more money from FSU. I doubt it would be taking this long to play out if it was all a slam dunk.
Simply brainstorming here...
Do we know if the entire Cam Newton Was Paid Lots of Dough Scandal’s fallout has fallen? This, the clearest pay for play scenario I recall ever taking place since SMU paved the way went largely untouched – certainly by the NCAA. Thinking about it, it took forever for the fine folks in Indianapolis to climb down from their ivory tower and give us a verdict in our academic waywardness situation. Seems like the timing would be about right for rats to jump from the Auburn bandwagon now if they thought there was going to be post-full-investigation backlash for paying for winning with that particular national title team.
The NCAA closed the Auburn/Newton investigation and said it found no violations in October.
Thanks. This is good to know.
And, of course, it makes total sense. Shoot, it wasn’t that big a deal in the first place. Good work, everybody.
You are correct
They also said they could reopen it at any time.
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She's not that big
And she actually pretty hot
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by zewhitedevil on Dec 16, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
Well, looks like Stoops isn't going anywhere, and he's headed to Auburn!
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Dec 15, 2011 7:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dang it. This is what it says:
“Mark Stoops (born July 9, 1967) is an American football head coach who is the defensive coordinator at Florida State University, Auburn University, and head coach at the University of Pittsburgh. He accepted all of these after turning down an offer to own the Jacksonville Jaguars.”
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Dec 15, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
FSU after a new 4 star lineman in Nevada who is coming to visit. There is only 2 of them out there Poutasi and Stanley and Stanley just gave the oral to Notre Dame.
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Where are you seeing FSU and Poutasi?
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