2012 Recruiting Discussion Thread #34 [CLOSED]
by DA-2 on Dec 30, 2011 2:13 PM EST
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Specific Player Questions (Check here before asking)
- Mario Edwards Jr.- His recruitment has been heating up ever since Texas had him official visit for the Red River Rivalry (Texas-Oklahoma). Since the RRR, an ESPN article had reported that he's decommitted. Since then, Mario has denied those rumors of decommitment. However, he has said that Oklahoma is in fact in first place despite his verbal commitment to Florida State. Florida State needs to get back on track to uphold his commitment. A National Championship contender (Oklahoma) will be a hard fought battle for someone like Mario. 11/07/11 update: Michael@TN reported that Edwards commitment to Florida State is again solid after the Unofficial Visit during the NC State 34-0 blowout. Edwards Jr will Official Visit Florida State some time in January(no date has been set at the moment).
- Dante Fowler- His recruitment has been very interesting. He's grown up a Florida State fan, but still has ties to Florida. He's taken multiple visit to Florida, including this summer when he was rumored to be leaning toward Florida. He also took in the beating Florida received from Alabama in early October. He's remained a Florida State commitment, but is scheduled to take official visits to University of Southern California, as well as Louisiana State. He has been quoted as being concerned about Florida State's recent skid. His recruitment should be something interesting to watch.
- Dorial Green-Beckham- FSU is not in the race for this receiver from Missouri. His brother is very sick and he wants to stay closer to Arkansas. That means Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, etc. Not FSU.
- Andrus Peat- One of the more intriguing players in this class. Although at first glance you question why a kid from Arizona with a brother at Nebraska would go to FSU, there is some interest here. Peat's grandparents surprisingly live in Tallahassee. FSU still isn't the favorite to get Peat, that's probably Nebraska, but it's not impossible for Peat to be a Nole come signing day. And there is no question that FSU would take him if he wants in.
Official Visits
1/13/2011
WR Courtney Gardner- As we first reported back in early December here
LB Josh Harvey Clemons
OT Menelik Watson- Juco OT who has been playing football for only a year. One of the best athletes you will find on the offensive line, but is just learning the game.
DE Mario Edwards
QB Sean Maguire
TE Christo Kourtzidis
Note: Dr Krop Athlete Johnnie Durante and CB Colin Blake are working on setting up official visits. More info on Blake here
Update 12/22
- Announcement Dates:
Notes
- Added the 2012 recruiting board.
- Florida State's minimum needs
Please keep in mind that it is unlikely all of these players will qualify. FSU is unlikely to enroll 25 players or anything like that.
QB Sean Maguire
QB Jameis Winston
RB Delmarick "Mario" Pender
WR Marvin Bracy
WR
TE Christo Kourtzidis
1 RB/WR/TE
OL Daniel Glauser
OL
OL
DE Dante Fowler, Jr.
DE Chris Casher
DE Mario Edwards, Jr.
DT Dalvon Stuckey
DT Justin Shanks
DT
LB Markuss Eligwe
LB
DB P. J. Williams
DB
1-2 DB/LB/DL
K Roberto Aguayo
P Cason Beatty
credit: TimScribble, caine115, fsugrizz.
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Which recruits are thought to be at risk to qualify academically?
by CrimiNole Defense on Dec 30, 2011 2:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Any word on Pender?
There is a lot of talk down here in SWFL that the Noles are taking their offer off the board. I have heard this from parents of some Island Coast players as well as a few area HS coaches I am friends with.
The Spear has been planted! FEAR IT!!
Character issues....
is what is being said. Same reason he got dropped from the U.S. Army game. I don’t know for sure, that’s why I was asking. I told people that I haven’t heard anything and wanted to know if anybody else has. He is supposed to be enrolled next month so I guess we will find out soon enough.
The Spear has been planted! FEAR IT!!
Ive heard the charges against Pender are going to be or already dropped.
I HIGHLY doubt we pull his offer. Don’t see it happening.
by jenolesone on Dec 30, 2011 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pender has been as solid as any Nole he is a top 3 Rb recruit
I highly doubt his offer gets pulled unless he does something again. I have never heard any danger of him flipping, and as long as he doesn’t get in trouble he will be a Nole. Maybe in the game of phone from one person to another it has been said he could lose it if he gets in trouble. If they were going to over current issues they would do it already and be looking elsewhere
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
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I agree
I have to think that CJF knows the situation better than anyone. I also believe that if CJF thought that Pender would be a risk then we would have cut ties and moved on long ago. Delmarco will be fine and Jimbo is very good at communicating what is and isn’t acceptable. That’s not to say that payers won’t get into trouble but there is no misunderstanding Jimbo when it comes to behavior.
I hope you are wrong
I could care less about his run in with the cops for slapping gf. His personal life is his personal life as long as it doesn’t bother his play or the play of his team.
Can you tell I am desperate for a NC!?
Yeah, that's a little messed up.
I’d petition the mods to remove this comment if I were you, unless you want to get reamed for this.
by arrdub on Dec 30, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If you're that desperate
Put a dress on and we will send over to your house when he gets angry. That way he gets to smack arround someone who sounds like he needs it…
I personally hope it was a one time event and the coaches tell him he is on a zero tolerance scholarship. This is the second chance.
by MeBeFirst on Dec 31, 2011 10:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm sure its been made CRYSTAL clear that behavior wont be tolerated while on scholly at FSU.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
You don't even know what happened
Only the two in the car do. If the charges get dropped he comes to FSU with a clean slate same as anyone else.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Dec 31, 2011 11:24 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Doesn't Matter
I’m not judging him. If a kid got arrested becuase they found drugs in a car he was riding in and he didn’t know they were there. You would still tell him the exact same thing as if they were his. He can’t put himself in those situations.
by MeBeFirst on Dec 31, 2011 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I find that hard to believe
It wouldn’t really make any sense at all
by TheRenegade29 on Dec 30, 2011 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely unfounded rumors.
The Noles are in no way backing off Pender.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
who do you guys think
are the most important players left on the board? goodman and peat? any others?
Don't know about Howard anymore..
He had an Interview online today where he spoke about his top schools UF & LSU are his top two FSU is third he seems to have a very good relationship with Coach Robinson of Florida & said he liked the Town as well. He said he’s not so sure about Tallahassee because the environment is similar to Miami and thats what he’s trying to get away from… Any chance with him?
Peat for sure. Definately need another Tackle in this class.
I would agree Howard is a big need as well. I think Goldman is a need as well simply due to the fact our DL is playing so well they’ll get a lot of looks from NFL scouts meaning we could have quite a few 3 and dones.
by jenolesone on Dec 30, 2011 3:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Does anyone have updates from the under armour combine(junior prospects)
or how PJ and Dalvon did at the offense defense game
UA Combine starts tomorrow for Junior Athletes. It should be one of the best Combines to date, with over 20 States represented.
I texted with Dalvon before he left for Dallas and should have a write up on him when he gets back in Florida on how the O-D game went.
BTW for those that didn’t see my post in the last thread the O-D game will be replayed on Comcast Sports, Jan 4th
by Michael@TN on Dec 30, 2011 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Do u know anything about Mario pender losing his scholarship
by TheRenegade29 on Dec 30, 2011 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't see that happening
Sounds like a made up rumor.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Dec 30, 2011 4:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I highly doubt Pender lost his scholarship
If he did you would have seen FSU offer multiple running backs and try to get them on campus for January visits, which hasn’t happened.
Mike Davis
I actually am starting to think we can get him. He and Markuss Eligwe seem close and talk a lot on twitter. He and Pender would be great together, I am starting to make myself realize we were never going to get Barry Sanders Jr.
ive said this a few times but we really need another RB
Basically its like last night plus Pender. All in all great potential but no depth.
If Sanders Jr. didnt have his name, nobody would care
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Dec 30, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
He’s a good back, but really really good is a bit of a stretch.
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Dec 30, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
He is better than real good. Have you not seen his film and his running style looks just like the ole man
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
You're disgracing his father when you say that
he doesn’t have near the shakes. Not even close.
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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 31, 2011 2:28 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Arrington Jenkins has pretty good escapability while riding someone else's moped....
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by DRusso97 on Jan 1, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Davis to USCe
I am hearing that Mike Davis will sign with USCe, probably due to the Lattimore injury. My source is close to Scout and ESPN recruiting analysts. I am not a journalist so please understand that I do not spend alot of time vetting my sources. I spent a good amount of time talking with this source during the Champs Bowl, he had a ton of info that I will try to fit into the appropriate discussions.
I heard USCe too
Mike Davis has already made up his mind for those that don’t know. Surprising since he hasn’t taken his offiicial visit to USCe and I don’t think he visited there during the year.
Question about Howard / Stoops
I heard a disturbing rumor that despite the pay raise Stoops received from FSU that the saga with Auburn is not over and that Stoops will be taking the Auburn job soon. Is this affecting the recruitment of Howard?? Or, more to the point, is there any legitimacy to this rumor??
Pretty sure Stoops knows he has a HC job somewhere after next season
he has an amazing class coming in and a ton of returning talent from a top 5 defense. A shot at a title and really big things. If he was going I see it setting him back long term. After next season hes set no matter what.
As far as how people are comitting to USCe and they are suddenly getting some amazing talent, #1 kid for a couple seson, lattimore, Clowney, ect. We know the answer
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
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I agree with you on Stoops
Like I said, it was just something I overheard and I am definitely not laying any $$ on it. I agree that Stoops will get a very good job after next year (probably Tennessee) and will demand a high price tag after he has completed the transformation of the FSU defense.
Not sure I totally agree with your assessment of U$Ce. I do not think that Davis is the elite player that ML or JC are. I think it’s more of an opportunity for him to come in and compete right away because of the unknowns associated with ML’s injury. Not that the "bag man" is out of the realm of possibilities, I just don’t see SOS doing business that way. The guy has remained pretty clean over the course of his career.
I know hes not the same level. But of all the SEC teams they are landing #1
or top 3 in the nation recruits a couple years going now. Against tough competition that we know also used those briefcases
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
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Real clean
Like the University of Florida going on probation due to cash from Tank Black and driving mercedes around campus.
The Seminoles are still America's team
Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear
Never said "real clean" Doc
My point was that SOS is “pretty” clean as in “fairly” clean,re-read. thanks for being the semantics police though. Good job Doc
by Noleviedo on Jan 1, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Consider yourself lucky you avoided a confusing, half-assed photoshop
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
by CornNole on Jan 1, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm a Garnet bleeding
Gold p*ss*ng Seminole but I went to med school at USCe. If this is true it needs to be aggressively pursued. If you have evidence let’s hear it.
If not . . . (It is just my opinion but) I believe we do harm to college football
and the reputations of eventually all of us – due to pay back etc -
by making unsubstantiated accusations/innuendos of serious wrong doing.
I can’t tell you how many times I wanted to b*tch slap some gator
for “criminole” or other such BS.
I think this stuff is usually written and read with a wink and all in fun BUT
It does serve to perpetuate a milieu that diffuses concern about actual wrong doing while gradually lowering everyones opinion of this sport we love. Why? What goes around . . .
My perspective is old fashioned and maybe (some could argue) too up tight but i offer these thoughts seriously and in good faith without malice. Go Noles !
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
An SEC school. #1 kids in the country.
And not for 1 year but a couple strait. And they pick USCe over an LSU, an Alabama, UF, even an Ark or Georgia. Thats pretty impressive for maybe the #5 ish general football program in the SEC alone.
of course i say it with a half joke. But its gotta be one of the most impresive things I have seen in a long time to get them to choose that school over the others if they just want SEC ball.
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
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Your right. It is hard to
wrap your mind around.
And (I say this without sarcasm). . Who in their right mind would want to play for Steve Superior?
It’s a worthy consideration you have no doubt and I do appreciate your humor!
Thanks also for your reasoned response.
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Howard is going to UF, and Poole will flip to FSU..
My guess based on what I have heard in talking with college recruiters (as of thursday at the bowl game)
Also they mentioned, Diggs and Bush to Auburn. Nelson to UF, Goldman was a 50/50 battle between FSU/BAMA (highest bidder).
Is this hearsay?
Or common knowledge? Between people in the “know”
Legacy starts now!
by Nole954 on Jan 1, 2012 12:30 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I was told to still watch for UT for Davis
This same person was highly skeptical of Davis ever signing with the UF at the time he committed to them and said to watch for UT and CU in the end. FWIW the same source told me the saturday night before last year’s NSD that CU people were “very confident” in landing Steward.
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 31, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Haven't heard UT
From what I’m hearing Mike Davis is a heavy lean to USCe at this point in time and neither Clemson nor FSU are interested in him. I do not understand the lack of interest from Clemson but FSU is growing more confident everyday that they can land BSjr. I know people feel strongly about BSjr for one reason or another but it may be a factor in regards to our interest in Mike Davis.
I would say that UGA is a distant 2nd place in the Mike Davis sweepstakes at this moment
Yeah
most people are in the USCe camp as far as identifying a leader for Davis. CU not being interested is alarming due to the situation playing out with Mike Bellamy that may not be resolved as of yet
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 31, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Jameis Winston to the NOLENATION
UnleashthaBeast Jameis Winston
#Fsunation y’all ready I’m ready too be sure to take this experience in cause this will be our last non #BCS bowl game in the next 4 years
29 Dec
by Criminole11 on Dec 30, 2011 6:19 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Reading quotes from Jameis and his father he seems dead set on playing both sports.
With that said, I don’t see how he would wanna go to Bama and play baseball. People continue to look at his recruitment like any other QB and from just the football aspect and really don’t take into consideration his love for baseball. He’s not the average recruit fellas…
by jenolesone on Dec 30, 2011 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What position does Jameis play in baseball??
IIRC Jameis is a pitcher with good heat and a breaking ball. I also understand that he projects as an outfielder in the MLB draft due to his athleticsm and his bat. The addition of Mike Bell to the FSU staff is HUGE in the recruitment of JW. Bell is a beast when it comes to developing talent. I believe he produced 4 first round draft picks in his time at OU (all pitchers)
agreed
but when I said good heat, I did not mean good highschool heat. I should have been more clear. JW’s fastball I’m told is in the 90’s. I’m also under the understanding that JW wants to pitch (post HS). I have seen that he projects as a centerfielder if drafted but I cant help but think that if JW has any aspirations as a pitcher then MIke Bell can definitely help with that.
I coached hs baseball for a couple of years when I was in college and I agree that if a guy can throw over 80, he’d probably see some time on the mound but for the purpose of this thread (since we are talking about soon to be college athletes) good heat would mean >89.
Thanks for the clarification though
Yeah JW throws like low-mid 90's
was not intending to argue, just tried to answer the question about his next level position. He will be drafted as an outfielder, but will be given a chance to pitch in college.
Cool
I gotta believe that Mike Bell is the “x-factor” in the recruitment of JW.
I would also appreciate it if Michael or Bud could possibly weigh in on this topic. I think we may be onto something here FSuni!!!
MMJr has been our ace in the hole the whole time.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 1, 2012 8:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ive heard Jameis is in the 92-93 range
good life on the fastball, good curveball, but more raw than anything else. Outfield should be his position but it would not surprise me to see him play both ways here. Kid has the arm to play right, the wheels to play center so he’s a great fit at either spot really. Good swing, needs work though. Lotta lift from the left side, should hit a ton of doubles and bombs at the Dick with the wall in right. Very excited to see him play both sports
everyone with any arm at all...
gets to pitch in highschool
by palmcitynole on Dec 31, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Not on my teams
There is a big difference between a pitcher and a thrower. JW is not a thrower, the dude can pitch!!
Not enough PAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWL
in this statement.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
Kinda OT but I was going through my tweets on twitter for the 2011 year and some of this stuff is pretty crazy.
Since this is a rambling post by me, I will give you a prediction of who I think FSU will sign/pursue on the Offensive Line to finish the class at the end of this post.(Player is not on most peoples radar)
1) This tweet about 2013 CB Artie Burns was made back in June when Burns had no offers. 5 months later he is commited to one of the best DB talent evaluators in Nick Saban/Alabama
@MichaelatTN
Miami Northwestern HS Artie Burns (6’1 175) is going to be one of the top CB in the nation for 2013.
27 Jun via web
https://twitter.com//MichaelatTN/status/85410848440451072
2)This tweet was made back in May when Miami Commit Ereck Flowers was rated two stars by some services. Now he is considered a top 15 prospect in Florida by some.
Michael Mignone
I dont see how OT Ereck Flowers who FSU recently offered can be a two star player. This is why I don’t trust some early rankings #justsaying
24 May via web Favorite Reply Delete
3) This is from back in May when I hinted that ATH Traveon Henry could get an offer from FSU. His only offer at the time was from Northwestern. Two months later Henry received that FSU offer
Michael Mignone
Pine Crest RB Traveon “Tray” Henry was named Miami Heralds Male Athlete of the Year. Could a #FSU offer be next after Jimbo Fisher Camp…..
28 May via web Favorite Reply Delete @MichaelatTN
4). President of the Rashad Greene Fan Club, I called him the best WR in Florida back in March
Michael Mignone
Best WR in Florida RT@IGotHART Follow Rashad Greene @shadnook ! Especially if you a TRUE #FSU FAN #Seminolenation
4 Mar via web
https://twitter.com/MichaelatTN/status/43830338056757248
5) I predicted that Baylor commit Corey Coleman would run the fastest 40 combine at UA combine back in Feb. While I missed this a little bit because Coleman didn’t attend, but he later ended up running a 4.35 and was the fastest player at the biggest combine event of the year at The Opening(which was about 5 months later)
@MichaelatTN
Michael Mignone Early prediction for the fastest 40 time at the #UnderArmour combine this weekend is Corey Coleman out of Richardson Pierce HS.
24 Feb via web Favorite Reply Delete
6)Back in April I said that Athlete James Brooks was going to blow up when talking to Josh Newberg about his ESS Combine. Josh later named Brooks the MVP a couple hours later in a event that had over a 100 prospects show up.
Michael Mignone
@ Brooks is about to blow up RT @joshnewberg Just got word that Southlake HS ATH James Brooks will be at the ESS combine in Tampa this weekend
10 Apr
in reply to @MichaelatTN ↑
@joshnewberg247
Josh Newberg @ @MichaelatTN You called it! he won offensive MVP. more importantly, went hard EVERY play.
10 Apr via web
7) I’ve never seen any other Florida State recruiting analyst mention this yet, but I said back in June that FSU would hit New Jersey hard and it looks like they are by already offering 5 prospects in the state of New Jersey for the 2013 class.
@MichaelatTN
Michael Mignone #FSU has offered more players in New Jersey then in Texas and California combined for 2012. I see FSU recruiting this state hard beyond 2012
22 Jun via web
https://twitter.com/MichaelatTN/status/83588255605473281
8) I predicted the Southwest Squad would win the Gridirion Kings which they won this summer. The Southeast Squad has won it the past 3 years and were favorites to win it this year.
I think the Southwest squad of @That_DavisGuy and @Bralon_Addison2 win the ESPN Rise Champion Gridiron Kings.
23 Jun via web https://twitter.com/MichaelatTN/status/83939656277831680
9) This is when i first received film of CB Travell Dixon and a week later FSU offers him. Very strange
Michael Mignone
Received new Juco film of two CB’s that I need to send to #FSU Recruiting Coordinator Dameyune Craig.
28 Apr via web
https://twitter.com/MichaelatTN/status/63628340921249793
10) This is back in June when I called 2013 RB Greg Bryant a top 15 player in Florida, despite other recruiting analyst not rating him high. Most consider Bryant to be a top 5 to 10 player in Florida for 2013 now.
@LukeStampini No Greg Bryant love? I think he can be a top 15 prospect in Fl. Like the spot of Woodley @ #8 part of the best backfield in FL
24 Jun via web Favorite Reply Delete
https://twitter.com/MichaelatTN/status/85410848440451072
As promised who do I think FSU signs at OL to finish out the class? ? As I have said Andrus Peat shouldn’t be considered a option. I think the sleeper who might get a offer late is Georgia OG/C Joseph Scelfo. Well why do you think that? I base most of my predictions of recruits actions. Scelfo has visited FSU twice in the past 6-7 months.There was talk of greyshirt offer earlier, but I thnk if the FSU staff doesn’t end up with Peat and a couple of other targets then they will offer Scelfo. Scelfo is a son of a NFL head coach so he knows the game very well.
by Michael@TN on Dec 31, 2011 2:18 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I'll add a prediction for tomorrow UA Combine since I blabbed on for so long
Top 40 times. Last time I heard Lincoln WR Reggie Davis and Miami commit WR Kermit Whitfield were both going to participate. If true, I have these two as my picks for the top 40 times. I’ll post results tomorrow
I’ll add that I think Texas prospect WR Quan Jones who I have worked out with before will time in around 4.55-4.65 electronic 40 at 6’4. He will have a all around great combine imo.
Isn't Marvin Bracy at the UA Combine?
If so, do they have a faster 40 time than him?
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by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 2, 2012 6:07 AM EST up reply actions
Good question
Wasn’t Lovelady listed at Tackle on one of the Depth Charts though?(I view him as a guard/C). Maybe there not sold on Lovelady or depth.
Depth
I would say its a smart move if they think this guy can be better than lovelady and Barron and they lose out on some of the big names we are chasing at guard and tackle. Injuries aren’t fair and even if we only have 2 ol injuries all of next year it can be to the same position. Let’s stop moving guards to the center position when that happens. The kid would be able to redshirt and learn the position slowly.
by MeBeFirst on Jan 1, 2012 9:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Depth
I would say its a smart move if they think this guy can be better than lovelady and Barron and they lose out on some of the big names we are chasing at guard and tackle. Injuries aren’t fair and even if we only have 2 ol injuries all of next year it can be to the same position. Let’s stop moving guards to the center position when that happens. The kid would be able to redshirt and learn the position slowly.
by MeBeFirst on Jan 1, 2012 11:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Michael, awesome job on your predictions last year...
I was wondering what you thought was your worse prediction was for 2011?
Gripper
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Recruits-
I thought Virginia WR/TE Romond Deloatch was going to have a big year. While he attended FSU Junior Day nothing ever came of it. Some say he has grade issues. Same goes for WR Cameron Broadnax(Jameis Winston teammate).. While Broadnax had a great year on the field he hasn’t turned it into offers. Last time I talked to him he said his grades were fine but why does a guy who is a legit 6’3 200lbs 4.5 40 ish WR have barely any offers?
FSU player prediction- I thougtht DT Demonte McAlister would have a breakout year. Kid is just extremely talented.
Recruit Prediction- I thought Chad Kelly was going to be a Nole when we were recruiting him early when I talked to him. I’m happy he is not(Winston)
Some of the ones of the top of my head.
Added Juco OT Menelik Watson to the OV list at the top of the page
He will be coming on 1/13. I expect one or two more guys to come official visit on that date.
This is because we are missing out on a number of top OL prospects. We are now reverting to JUCO. JUCO is a way of filling a gap, but not solving the problem.
Not just any JUCO....a guy a who's been playing football for just a couple of years.
FSU’s OL recruiting is f’ed up this year.
A couple of years? Ive read that Watson has only played organized football for 4 months.
by jenolesone on Dec 31, 2011 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thought I read on here it was a couple of years.
Regardless, he should not even be an option for FSU. I would prefer taking the hit this year and spending the scholly on someone next year.
Just not a lot of options at this point
We do need to take at least three offensive linemen for depth purposes. Would be nice to land some highly regarded prospects of course. But FSU just doesn’t have sufficent depth at this point
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 31, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure if this is the right place, but
Since y’all are on the OL topic. Can anyone sum up the non-freshman oline that did not play in the bowl game and if we shld expect any contribution next year? (key reserve, backup,
etc.)
Datko – cant stay healthy,severe shoulder issues. He’s done.
Snider?
Oreleus?
Stork?
Krug – servicable backup?
Others that i missed?
Reason i ask bc what i saw later in the bowl game from the frosh shows alot of promise and if what we currently have in house can come in as backups i dont see our ol recruiting being so dire. I see we need a few more prospects but dont we have projected starters and backups already in house (minus one KEY left tackle)?
Faircloth, Stork, Krug, Foose, Orleus should all play some next year either as starters or backups if healthy
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Snider's Gone
Med DQ: For Yao Ming ankles. I believe that’s the official medical term
by MeBeFirst on Jan 2, 2012 3:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What happened to
Orelus this season?
Legacy starts now!
by Nole954 on Jan 2, 2012 10:43 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Concussion symptons, IIRC
Joyner hit Haulstead so hard that it injured Orelus too.
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by CornNole on Jan 2, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What a bust Foose has been so far
I know he still has a couple of years but it’s like he barely even exists! He must be really really bad
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 2, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Orelus & Datko were in street clothes....Stork & Krug were fully dressed out & not playing. Not sure about Snider.
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So I guess I need to catch up with recruiting now that the season is over
Anyone want to sum up what I’ve missed in the last four months in 5 words or less?
Yes
But the last several months have been CRAP.
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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 31, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm referring to
the last four months
Most of the success came before the season.Recently it’s just been bad rumors and a couple de-commits.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
all recruiting rankings are driven by quantity
FSU is taking a small class this cycle. Check out avg player ranking (and keep in mind that FSU has a 2* punter and 3* kicker)
Championship!
Per Josh Newberg, FSU 2013 CB commit Sojourn Shelton jumped 29 inches
Iittle disappointing. Most players are running 40’s now.
RB Ryan Green ran a laster timed 4.4 40
#TeamRyanGreen. If you missed it read what I had to say about Ryan Green earlier this year http://www.tomahawknation.com/2011/11/25/2587006/a-look-into-the-future-2013-saint-petersburg-catholic-hs-running-back
Discuss the combine is this link
Scout has a free live link to the combine here http://www.tomahawknation.com/2011/12/31/2672600/live-blog-from-the-under-armour-combine#comments
OL Recruiting Question
Michael@TN, do you think it is both wise and smart to take “filler” commits on OL this year or load up again next year? This seems to be a double edged sword. We need the depth but that hurts us for future elite OL talent plus even if they provide depth what good is that if they can’t perform at a FSU type level. This OL recruiting dilemma has me beside myself?!? I just can’t understand how this staf got into this position. I’m wll aware of the bad luck and attrition we have had, but that doesn’t excuse not going out and getting 2 or 3 elite talents (non-Juco) for the OL this cycle. If Jimbo wants to build an elite program and not just a good team, he needs to put the same emphasis on recruiting elite talent and numbers on the OL the way he has on the DL. Just very confusing and disheartnening.
by SarasotaSeminole on Dec 31, 2011 12:15 PM EST reply actions
Not Michael
“filler” is ambiguous but definitely has a negative sense associated with it. I will say, however, IMO OL is the one position where in general (of course there are exceptions) development matters a lot. So, if you start with someone with the right measurables w/o much OL skill, you can produce a good OL given enough time/development.
Championship!
Totally agree
I would even say that the O-line is the hardest position for a freshman to play, even harder than QB. There is so much to learn in terms of assignments that freshmen typically are unprepared. Add in the "physical" aspects of the trenches and you have one real tall order for a freshman lineman.
..OL will continue to be FSU's downfall....
…FSU will NEVER and I mean NEVER be elite team again…till he recruits elite OLine…..simple as pie..!!
by George Youngs Jr on Dec 31, 2011 12:35 PM EST reply actions
Disagree
some of the best OLs in the country (e.g., Wisconsin) are composed of 3*s with one or two 4* or 5* players.
Championship!
Against ND..
Zebrie (4*)
Matias (4*)
Barron (2*)
Jackson (3*)
Hart (4*)
And it’s safe to say Jackson and Barron were under-rated coming out of high school. Jackson’s already a monster in stature and Barron is starting, automatically better than a 2* IMO.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Think Trick bought himself some time
with how these guys played in the second half. I think it’s basically the same lineup next year. Glauser fills in for Zebrie and maybe Stork gets back in the starting lineup. Was he out for injury or sucktitude?
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Injury
IIRC Stork suffered an injury to his hand that ended up getting infected and was very close to an amputation. Can anyone confirm this???
Holy crap.
Well, if that’s true and if he heals up I think he’ll start at C over Barron. I’m just happy that something good happened with the OL for a change.
And for anyone who knows, what’s with Avery Young (4* OT from Fla). Are we going after him?
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Regarding Avery Young,
last I heard he’s been a pretty strong FU lean for awhile now. Hopefully something’s changed, but I wouldn’t keep my hopes up on him.
...FSU's OLine will continue to be FSU's downfall...
…FSU will NEVER and I mean NEVER be an elite team again…till FSU gets elite OLine recruits…..simple as pie..!!
Why/how can the trainwreck UF program get the best OLine recruit/player in the Country along with the best Oline recruit in the State of Florida and FSU can ONLY get one(1) 3-star not rated/project/JUCO Oline recruit ??? Something is really wrong with this…!! JImbo needs to show the recruiter of the Oline players….THE DOOR IMMEDIATELY..!!
by George Youngs Jr on Dec 31, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions
since i believe recruiting is done by area and not position
jimbo would have to fire his whole staff
by chan011 on Dec 31, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
good point
I also think that RT’s "appetite" for athletic linemen hand-cuff some of our staff’s recruiting efforts
I think the "smaller but meaner"
thing was just because smaller is all we could get. Now I think it’s just, as long as you’re not a fat slob, you’re good.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
I like your enthusiasm
I have been told that RT is recruiting like a man trying to save his job.
On the other hand, I think RT did a good job preparing our line for the Champs Bowl. We weren’t spectacular, but I think we did "enough" on the line to get the job done. I have been very critical of RT, you can read some of my past comments, and I was "blasted" for my stance.
To his credit, we did have a good class last year plus RT is a guy that CJF loves and trusts. There is a lot of loyalty between those 2 so I think RT’s job is safe. I am not a fan of how we have recruited the O-line prior to 2011 and I don’t think the staff is happy with it either but I don’t think it will cost RT his job.
As a side note, I would look for a little turnover in the roster as I am hearing that Foose will not be back either.
"Foose will not be back either."
So the dumpster fire that has become FSU OL recruiting gets a little worse.
Could be
Smack Dancer or onebignofan?
The Seminoles are still America's team
Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear
I recognize your style from the Rivals main board :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Dec 31, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Probably the person he's replying to
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by freshcollegeboy on Dec 31, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
the benift of living in orlando i will be at the UA practice for the next two days with alll FSU gear as i did last year doing some recruting of my own..>EDDIE GOLDMAN i'm coming for u...
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Dec 31, 2011 1:54 PM EST reply actions
I'll be there in spirit!
Don’t come back without a solid unreliable first hand account of a close quarters confirmation the two of you that he’ll be a Nole. We’ll even take the age old “anonymous source” who has unmeasurable confidence he’s coming to Tally. Lol
Legacy starts now!
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Hang out at gas stations near the practice fields. Try not to look creepy...
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by DRusso97 on Jan 1, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
When do the practices start
by TheRenegade29 on Dec 31, 2011 3:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rumor
Yeah, it’s kind of a double-edged-sword. On the one hand roster turnover opens up a spot. On the other it reeks of a poor evaluation
Josh Harvey-Clemons
I understand that JHC is still, very much, "in-play" for FSU right now. Anybody hearing the same???
He will at FSU for OV on 1/13
While that is encouraging, he lives in a household who are not big FSU fans, he never camped at FSU and has never named FSU his top team(Has named Georgia previously).
thanks Michael
Unfortunately, I think his Georgia roots will keep him in the peach state. I sure do love that guy’s versatility though.
My "source"
said JHC isn’t coming to FSu mainly because he has issues with reid and Telvin. I guess he is a really quiet kid and doesn’t like the showboats. TIFWIW
by SarasotaSeminole on Dec 31, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Don't shoot the messenger
My source is very credible. He could be wrong just like anybody else but usually what he says comes to fruition. He says most likely UGA for JHC
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 1, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
And Remember
Spiller basically didn’t come to FSU because he had issues with Antone Smith
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 1, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Fixed it for you...
Spiller basically didn’t come to FSU because he had issues withAntone SmithJeff Bowden’s retarded offense
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by DRusso97 on Jan 1, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
HAHA
Now how can I argue with that DRusso!?!?
P.S. Sarasota Show…Do it….c’mon…do it….doooo it
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 1, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
No offense, but that's asinine.
He’s just not interested. End of story. Hell, Reid may not even BE here when he gets here, and he’d only have 2 years w/ Telvin.
Kids don’t make decisions based on crap like that. Some people feel the need to make excuses for every single kid that isn’t interested in Florida State, and that’s simply ignorant.
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I wasn't saying your stupid And it was a lie
I was saying it is stupid not to go somewhere because two players on the team showboat
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 1, 2012 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Which is why...
I was and am still disappointed at how our coaches handled the linebacker recruiting this year. Eligwe is a great pickup but we could’ve easily had Northrup w/ him if we had offered him the scholarship when he came to camp. He was an FSU lock and is a run stuffing beast.
Seems like our LB recruiting will be good next year
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Good luck finding a team without showboats
Where is going to play? Air Force? BYU?
The one that just transferred to KU to be with Cholly?
Before that move, I though he was for sure joining Mike Leach out in the sticks in WA.
by STAquinasNole on Jan 4, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Don't see that one happening.
I think UGA for him.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Mario Edwards & OU
In a recent interview through ESPN he pretty much ruled out OU. Said he will announce on signing day. Look out for LSU and Texas but I think he signs with FSU.
I'm running off at the keyboard here but..
In the event we lose Stoops after the 2012 season, we will be looking for a DB coach. I think Hudson takes over the defense and continues the outstanding work he’s done with LBs. I’m anxious to see if we bring Mario Sr. in as an assistant (package deal). It’s not out of the realm of possibilities. Thoughts???
ME Sr wants to coach his other son whos still in HS
at least i believe that was discussed in a previous recruiting thread
Didn't he already announce?
These kids….
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Mike28davis Mike Davis The top are TN SC UGA FSU CLEM
this is from mike davis’s twitter
by reid-the-manuel on Dec 31, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions
Mike28davis Mike Davis I already have my mind up on what college I'm goin to
this is during our bowl game
by reid-the-manuel on Dec 31, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
An example of why i detest recruiting...
If you have your mind made up, then you don’t have a list of 5 top schools.
Can't really blame the kids.
Decisions come with doubt, some more than others. Some recruits are in it for the game and not the right reasons. The media coverage has made recruiting much worse than it was when I graduated. And that was 04’
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Hey.....female fans of the other 4 schools give dome too.
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by DRusso97 on Jan 1, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just got off the phone with Bud, who was at the UA combine and another prospect to watch for 2013
West Orange CB Roman Tatum doesn’t have a recruiting profile on any websites, but that will change in a heartbeat.
Junior Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDXQnoQa0n0
I worked the chains for the game against east river
kid is an animal locked down east rivers best WR also seemed to be a good leader
by reid-the-manuel on Dec 31, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Scout explained last year about "soft commitments"
They basically put that status on a recruit if he visits other schools after committing publicly. It’s doesn’t mean they will de-commit. The same thing happened, for instance, with Rashad Greene last year. He visited Miami in January, and his status was listed as “soft commit” even though he was quite solid. Same with Karlos Williams when he visited USC. JW just visited ’bama I think, so he is listed as a soft commit.
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Since were talking about combine times I want this running back who ran a 4.31 40 at 218lbs
Derrick Green
He isn't as fast as timed though
Got chased down from behind a few times this year when it looked like he was taking it to the house
You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
If True
then no way is that 4.31 time accurate. You don;t get chased sown with that kind of speed….you run away from people each time, every time.
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 2, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
He is just a freak
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/133948/derrick-green
Top underclassman
Derrick Green, RB (Richmond, Va./Hermitage)
Green wasn’t just the top underclassman at the combine but the top overall player, regardless of class. He finished with the top SPARQ Rating in the event at 111.54 and is already being mentioned as one of the top running backs in the 2013 national class. Green rushed for over 700 yards and 10 touchdowns last season and should double those numbers as a junior.
He is a freak athletically
But i can still tell you I have never seen him run where it looked like he was 4.3 fast. He is a really good back still but I would be surprised if he doubled those numbers because he is as big as the linemen blocking for him which doesn’t help him
You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
I watched his highlight video, and he didn't seem anywhere near as fast as D.Pender.
If Green runs a 4.31, then DP must run something like a 4.15; but if Green looks like that, it might not matter how fast he can run, because people my just run away from him. That is one mean looking dude.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
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by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 2, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
im no expert by any means
but from watching his highlights I felt like there was a major discrepancy in his quicks on some plays versus the majority. I wonder if he
A).lost some bad weight partly through the year
2).had some minor injuries
D). just developed significantly as the year went on leading to better times than his film mostly shows
It’s all just a thought, was curious if anyone would know more about that. (for example he seemed slow and lumbering at 1:10 (and most of the film for a 4.3 guy), but at 2:08-2:40 and 4:04 seemed to be much much quicker).
\m/(-_-)\m/
by metalheadnole on Jan 3, 2012 6:25 AM EST up reply actions
Your Assessments Are Always Spot On
If you say he is that good then count me as a believer
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 2, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Certainly
doesn’t play nearly as fast as he times. And not alot of truly explosive runs on his tape
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 2, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
He goes to my school
Just like Curtis Grant last year. He is a great athelete but is best suited for a pro style offense. And we run a spread so his numbers don’t show how good he can be.
You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
We as in Hermitage
You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
And with all that said
I wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up at Ohio State like Grant
You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
And we run a spread so his numbers don’t show how good he can be.
Wo is “we”? FSU?
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
He was referring to we as his highschool
Saying his highschool ran a spread and green would have better numbers if they had a pro style offense
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 1, 2012 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's what confused me.
I should’ve said nevermind after I read the comment under it, as he clarified immediately.
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That is just ridiculous!!!
4.31 40 at 218 pounds?!?!?!?! That’s the stuff of legend….Herschel Walker?
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 1, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
I'll take "recruits who will move JWJ to LB" for $400 please Alex....
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Looks like he has a little Trent Richardson in him
What was your roommates name? I most likely played with him...
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Build? Yes
Ability? No
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TSG
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Here's Jr highlights of Mackensie Alexander
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/315896/mackensie-alexander
Must say this kid is pretty complete corner. Great agility, good speed, can find the ball in the air very good and is physical. He doesn’t really know how to properly backpedal yet but thats a common flaw with HS corners.
by westcoastnolefan on Dec 31, 2011 7:18 PM EST reply actions
2nd or 3rd CB in FL imo
Has legit speed as a track standout in the 100 meters also his brother is a legit D-1 player for 2013. Immokalee HS might have 5 top 50 players in Florida for 2013 which is crazy. Big fan of his DT teammate Deadrin Senat.
Yes
Nobody reads my articles lol ……. http://www.tomahawknation.com/2011/11/25/2587006/a-look-into-the-future-2013-saint-petersburg-catholic-hs-running-back
For those that care
You can go through my blog on TN for articles like this Ryan Green one and many more in case you missed it.
why no pender senior highlights?
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by cerebralfish on Jan 1, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Some teams don't do senior highlights of player who are already committed
Most coaches publish these videos for there prospects to get offered, which Pender doesn’t need. So it’s probably up to a outside sourse like Elite Scouting Service to publish his highlights. Just like how FSU DT Derrick Mitchell Senior Highlights were never made for the public same case might go for Pender. I have a couple runs(maybe :30 seconds) from Pender’s Senior year that I posted awhile back.
I'm surprised he hasn't commuted yet the. I was watching some video where he said he would like to go to fsu
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 1, 2012 1:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And we'd all like him to come to FSU
It’s a win-win
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He likes FSU a lot
It’s basically a two team race right now with Notre Dame and FSU. I think he is a guy who will take his time before deciding. FSU will be in it though till the end imo.
Michael, great job!
Thanks so much for what you do. And with a lot of class as well!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
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This is good, though I wish we were his last OV
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Juco WR Courtney Gardner deleted his twitter
Courtney had over a 1,000 Arkansas fans(I’m so glad our fan base is not like them on twitter with athletes) following him and woud talk to most of them. They would probably threaten and talk crap about Courtney if he decommitted. I’ll have a update on Courtney coming up before his FSU visit on 1/13. I also updated the official visitor list at the top of the board with 3 more names for that HUGE OV date. Hopefully FSU TE Christo Kourtzidious who has been known to recruit players for FSU will try to work some magic that weekend.
by Michael@TN on Jan 1, 2012 12:19 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
harvey-clemons
said he was down to UGA and UF even though he will still take a handful of visits. We should take 3 or 4 LBs from the class of 2013. Maybe we can move Moody to LB for next season if Vince can become a contributor at safety. Or just move Telvin outside.
Is Holmes Onuwaifke definitely medical dismissed?
Multiple shoulder injuries.
Also rumored to have some personal things factoring in that could potentially facilitate a transfer.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
If it something could happen, how is that a done deal?
First of all, I don’t understand your phrasing (what you’re trying to say)
Secondly, Corey and Newberg have been pretty straightforward about Holmes. You spend time over there fairly often, so I’m not sure why you’re acting like you don’t know whats going on
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
He is medically DQ'd without a doubt.
Will not play another down of football at FSU. He could possibly transfer schools. There is no question he won’t play again, there is some question as to whether or not he’ll remain at FSU
LB depth ?
Anyone think Fowler or Casher take over the Sam LB spot after C Jones leaves? Or are both of them destined to put their hands on the ground?
maybe not them
but los, brutus, eligwe, telvin smith, could
by reid-the-manuel on Jan 1, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Is Brutus really big enough to play LB?
by seminoleballer on Jan 2, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Brutus was up to 230 with a lot weight in his hips.
FSU football is the new case study for the outliers phenomon
Really?
I thought he was like 5’11 180 or so coming in?
Maybe I’m thinking of someone else.
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Brutus "the barber" Beefcake is big enough to play LB. FSU's Brutus........not so much.
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Wow what a day at the UA combine....got too see all our future noles up close and personal after speaking to WInston he sounds pretty FIRM to FSU if you ask me...
Also speaking of Bracy man what a STUD….and talk about speed boy was all over the place, also spoke with Marcus Maye whos brother just so happen to go to high school with me. He seems pretty solid to UF and pretty much are going to start him from day one. Although he likes FSU he is all UF. Also i would like to upload some of my pictures as long as i don’t get in trouble for it… Also speaking to Andrus Peat TALK ABOUT A BIG boy he seems very interested in FSu in all interviews he mentioned FSU to all reporters saying over and over again i plan on taking a visit very soon…
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions
I don't think you should capitalize the word firm on this forum. It's not safe.
At least not while DRusso is at large.
by Nole2005 on Jan 1, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I met Peat at the spring game
Stood right by him and Alphonse Taylor. It’s just ridiculous how large these kids are. It’s insane.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Please do a fanpost and include all the pictures you want, as long as they are yours.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Never mind, I see them down below.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
He has already denied it and said hat his phone was stolen.
What was your roommates name? I most likely played with him...
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Markus Solid as an F'in Rock Eligwe?
I sure hope you’re right.
And anyway, who the heck says “I will be decommitting”??? Wording seems off, doesn’t it? Don’t you generally use the past tense when talking about something like that?
yeah i spoke too soon.. lol
pretty eff’d up imo
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 2, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
-Markuss Eliqwe on twitter
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 2, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, dam Cane people already trying mess with FSU fans.
Hes one of our so solid hes recruiting kids
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#FSU LB commit Markuss Eligwe did not decommit. One of the players from the Army Game had his phone from what I heard. #Noles
I thought it was Davis who did it but turns out it was Kirby
Sorry to Stir you guys up Kirb hacked into my phone while I was away. I’m Florida State All the way. #NoleNation
UM commit Raphael Kirby
Kirb, better enjoy that little joke.
Because he is going to the u, right? That will be the last time he makes a joke at our expense. From now on the team he is on will be the joke, and that is too bad, because I would have loved for him to be a Nole.
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by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 2, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
Guys c'mon
We’ve all done worse things than that if a buddy or your brother leave their FB page up. I find it hilarious, and Kirby was pretty tame in what he could of said. I would have been much dirtier.
I don't have a problem with what he did, except for the near heart attack he gave me.
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It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 2, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
they are friends, Its funny cause they are kids having fun
Its us the die hard fans that freak lol
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twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
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It was semen-resistant.
Ever close your roommate’s door then put a (possibly new/probably used) condom over the doorknob to see just how bad he REALLY wants to get into his room??
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You have obviously never perused some of those personals.
Pics are usually included and you pick the worst……which is saying something.
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I'm betting Tom Lemming had something to do with this*
by SeminoleDynastyMP on Jan 1, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions
Stole it and gave it to Aaron Lynch, who then had it stolen by DJJ.
by Nole2005 on Jan 1, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Who then tried to make his escape via moped...
Alas, Arrington Jenkins was in town visiting family that day.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
AJ jokes are getting old. Let’s wait until he is actually convicted of anything, regardless of any supposed statement he made which may or may not have been taken out of context.
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 2, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You know what else is getting old?
Hypersensitive cheerleaders. It was a joke..
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
Seriously trying to come up with a mock class and I'm just not confident on who we sign
I know you don’t want to hear this, but I don’t see FSU closing as strong as some people are expecting. If you ask any FSU recruting analyst to give you a mock of the last 4-5 guys FSU signs i think you would be hard pressed to find anyone that is really confident of who finishes out this class.
Note: I’m not real confident in these predictions, but what the hell.
DT Eddie Goldman 55% and trending down. While most analyst think Alabama is the top competition, I’m worried about Auburn
CB Tracy Howard 25% Interview today with Mike Ferrell sounded like Howard is favoring LSU and Florida. Plus his mom unfollowed me which is the ultimate sign lol. Good chance he commits to Florida on his last visit.
LB Josh Harvey Clemons 15% I never had him in this class. FSU does get the last visit though.
WR Courtney Gardner 40% and trending upwards- As I said Courtney deleted his twitter just recenlty(has over a 1,000 Arkansas fans following him). If Courtney were to decommit he would be hounded by Arkansas fans, as they are some of the worst I have seen on twitter. I will catch up with Gardner later. Visits FSU 1/13
DE Leonard Williams 70% if Mario Edwards decommits which I don’t see happening. Williams will visit FSU coming up.
WR Nelson Agholor 5%
OT Andrus Peat 5% until he actually visits FSU. If he does visit I will go up to 30%.
CB A.J. Leggett. 55% most likely a sign and place unless he chooses Marshall
CB Colin Blake- 35-40% If he makes it to campus in Jan.(working on OV)
OG Joseph Scelfo 70% if he makes it on campus otherwise 10%
OT Menelik Watson- 60% Auburn is the main competition here.
I expect two OL to pop up and I’m not sure at this time who.
If we don't land Garnder
Do you think there is a chance we offer Lavatiae Kelly?
I'm a HUGE Lavatiae Kelly fan
WR Lavatiae Kelly was actually claiming a FSU offer at the Miami Dade All Star game.While the offer might not be commitable the coaching staff is on him. Question is does FSU need another WR? I would offer him if it was up to me. Are grades a issue here? I’m hearing that they might be.
Background: Kelly led all of Florida in wide receiving yardage. He stands 6’1 170ish lbs. This is his first year playing football, so that’s why most don’t know about him. Legit 4.4 kid. Dominated this spring. Legit BCS kid. I like him better then LSU WR commit Avery Johnson(remember this is Kelly 1st year playing football which is insane)
Senior film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4YcPGaZZoY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Spring game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIgOMZVGEzk
Dominated in 7on7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHvdrrmS-DE&feature=related
That's McArthur in Broward?
Was he running track before he played football?
by STAquinasNole on Jan 1, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yep in Broward
He didn’t run track
He tore up some of the best teams in Florida HS
Saint Thomas Aquinas REC 8 Yards 120 Long 36 1 TD
Plantation HS with FSU CB commit Sojourn Shelton REC 9 Yards 152 Long 82 2 TD
Flanagan who has a good DB REC 13 Yards 149 Long 24 1 TD
He dominated against everybody he faced for the most part.
Kid better hit the books.
He looks legit.
by STAquinasNole on Jan 2, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
Sign me up for Kelly now
Best WR I’ve seen in Fla except for C. Black. I like him better than Cooper and Johnson
As I said earlier I thought Kelly had grade issues
McArthur (Hollywood, Fla.) WR Levitae Kelly enjoyed a great senior season, posting 60 grabs for 1,318 yards and 15 touchdowns. Kelly didn’t play organized high school ball until spring practice his junior year after sitting out due to grades. He has a lot of ability and raw talent. If he gets in the right program he could blossom into a solid contributor at the next level. The All-Broward first-teamer is starting to hear from FAU and FIU. He has interest in Florida State and Miami.
If his grades are in order he is FSU caliber all the way imo
Any word on Ricardo Louis?
I heard something about us going after him pretty hard, but I don’t remember where I heard it. Any chance he jumps from Auburn?
Also, would we be looking at him at WR? It seemed like he was playing mostly RB in the highlight video I saw of him. He reminded me physically of Anquan Boldin.
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It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 2, 2012 7:59 AM EST up reply actions
I hear he might be going to Ole Miss due to his relationship OL Coach Matt Luke
I know some sites have mentioned Conyers as a possible late add, but I don’t see it. I believe he has used all of his OV and Ole Miss is his last one on 1/27. I like him at RT, but I feel there are better options that are not committed in the state of Florida.
I’ll come up with a OL list tomorrow. Again it’s very hard to project which one of these guys FSU will target since they haven’t shown a lot of attention besides top prospects like Peat etc.
smh
I’m gonne be pretty mad if we miss out on Howard AND Goldman.
Hopefully Arky fans pissed off Gardner enough to come here.
I think we don’t sign and place AJ (if we get him), doesn’t he actually have good enough grades?
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Personallly I like Justin Shanks better then Goldman
Timmy Jernigan was physcially ready to come in because he was in great shape(power lifting champion). Shanks is the same way he is in great shape at 295-300lbs and lives in the weight room. Physically Shanks is like a taller NLS who plays against better high school competition then NLS which will get him ready to maybe play his freshman year.
interesting
I thought goldman and shanks wouldn’t even be close
by Cee on Jan 2, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Michael...
I like that thought process. I think there is a lot of validity there
by FSU on Jan 2, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Shanks put on a lot of weight before this past season
and I think it compromised his lateral movement based on his senior film.Doesn’t have either the length or the burst of Goldman therefore not the same caliber pass rusher. Not as good an athlete as NLS either. Goldman is big and strong enough to play Nose guard and has the length and quickness to play the 3 tech under tackle position while Shanks would probably be limited to playing the nose unless it’s a short yardage situation. Goldman is just a much better more versatile prospect
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 2, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with Shanks = 1Tech/Goldman = 1 *or* 3Tech
Need to watch more film though.
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Physically Shanks is like a taller NLS
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Pardon my ignorance
What’s sign & place? If* Leggett gets in, he’ll be quite the catch. But why would Leggett sign & place with us if it’s a mirror image of the scUm situation? Assuming that sign & place is what I read it to be.
Legacy starts now!
by Nole954 on Jan 2, 2012 10:37 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Did we part ways with Terry Bell? I know he signed and placed in Juco but no chance he makes it back?
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
I can't find him on any Juco roster in Mississippi
I’m not even sure he is playing football this year, if true I don’t see how he makes it back
Sign and place definition:
A coach will sign players he knows have no chance of qualifying academically and then place those players in junior colleges. In return, the junior college coaches will feed the best of their players back to the FBS programs when those players are ready to transfer.
From: Oversigning offenders won’t be curbed by NCAA’s toothless rule
It’s a win/win for both the Junior College and the FBS team. The junior college will be funneled a good player and the JUCO coach will generally appreciate it and do his best to make sure the player keeps his commitment once the player gets his grades together or graduates. If multiple players don’t keep their commitment and sign elsewhere, the FBS program will think the JUCO coach isn’t doing all he can to keep the players committed to their original school and find another JUCO to funnel players to.
The sign and placed player does not count towards the FBS schools 85 limit until he actually enrolls one or two years later.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
THese are all taken from my phone today....will have more 2morrow after the practice...
Edwards and Cashier having a few words…
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions
hopefully this works Casher and Mario having a few words...
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions
how do i uploads pics on here...i can't seem to figure it out?
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
click the body
then click the picture and insert the url. Can’t upload from a drive, so most post on facebook or photobucket then post that url.
Then go read the Welcome Guide.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 1, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
yeah along with the url and stuff
but it’s no big deal.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 1, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
ok got it...
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Mario E.....
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:12 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
my goodness do we need him...."PEAT"
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
"BRACY"....and was he burnin people out there....YES!!
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:18 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Nelson......
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:24 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Gonna laugh hard if Texas takes MEJr then turns him into a DT
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 1, 2012 11:26 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I'm not gonna laugh at all
in fact I may cry.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 1, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Thanx @Michael weren't you out there today?
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:29 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Spoke to WINSTON 3times today and all 3times he walked by me he was sure to remind me and say quote each time 'GO NOLES"
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:35 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
@Michael if you could private message i would like to ask you something...thanx
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:38 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
yes Fowler def loves attention....lol.
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
will have pic of E.Goldman 2morrow....had a small talk with him myself and he seems pretty found of FSu and had all smiles when i asked him about playing next to Mario,Chris, and Dante...
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 1, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions
I like the way he plays.
I think someone posted some highlights of him (and one of his teammates that also played LB) last year, but it wasn’t as impressive as these are.
Also had a nice chat with Ken Griffey Jr......i can't lie his son is pretty good he burned B.Poole (GATOR COMMIT) a couple of times today...
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 12:18 AM EST reply actions
He also did very well against top 2013 CB Vernon Hargreaves during the season
Griffey Jr really improved this year.
Speaking of Poole
My source from the littel team down the road says if Hopward commits to UF (which is what he is likely to do) that Pooled will flip to FSU. I’d be fine with that. Howard and Poole very close in talent and ability.
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 2, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Seems to change daily
Video from yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wecA9esJRDI
Not saying your source is wrong.
Pretty Legit Source
We’ll see what happens. Personally as long as we get one of the two I’ll be happy.
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 2, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Poole
Is he an NSD or EE? Would we play him at CB or S? I ask because I’ve read on several occasions that he looks more like a Safety…
Legacy starts now!
by Nole954 on Jan 2, 2012 10:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I've always been of the opinion that
Poole would end up at safety
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 2, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Reminds me of Texas true freshman CB Quandre Diggs
Both have same type of build being around 5’10 200 lbs. Both 4.4 guys with great hips.
Diggs had one of the best true freshman seasons in Longhorn history.15 pass breakups with 4 ints. He will just be another 1st round CB that the Longhorns produce when the time comes.
Poole will end up being
much bigger than 200 pounds by the time he gets to a college level strength program. Looks to be 200 pounds now in fact
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 2, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously doubt
that he’s totally maxed out at 18, but whatever
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 3, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
He isn't maxed out but he is far advanced for his age
Take a look at his shoulders… dude works out!
The key is the legs though and I haven’t seen his. Most weight will be gained in the legs for most people. He can hit 200 anyone can but will he be as productive at 200… thats the question.
a quote he said to me was..
unlike most fathers he said its totally up to my son on where he wants to commit to when i asked him what if he wanted to go to FSU he replied its up to my son not me….quote “i would rather have him come back to me and say it didn’t work out then say i only went there because of you”
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 12:50 AM EST reply actions
Who is this quote from?
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 2, 2012 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 2, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
Good Counsel will be well represented at the Army Combine this friday
FSU has already offered 2(5 star CB Kendall Fuller/CB/S Kirk Garner) of their 2013 players with a 3rd offer going to LB/RB Dorian O’ Daniel.
Michael Mignon
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I will be covering the Army Combine/Game this week for SBNation. I will give you guys updates on FSU commits Ukeme Eligwe/Justin Shanks along with the 2013 targets for FSU.
Texas and Mario Edwards
I’m pretty sure the person who said Mario Edwards was 80% to Texas are the same guys who predicted he would originally commit to UT back in the spring. They also believed UT had a over 50% chance of landing Nelson Agholor and Andrus Peat, and how did that turn out(Nelson will commit to USC if he leaves the state of Florida and Peat will probably be at Neb) ? Gerry Hamilton is the best Texas Recruiting Analyst in the buisness. If he said it was 80% I would be scared, but he didnt’t
I was a little concerned with OU a month or two ago
now thats not the case….Im pretty comfortable with his commitment to FSU despite the recruiting circus that surrounds him(or any 5 star).
The visit to FSU will make his commit solid imo
He just got done visiting Texas and had a great time, so this FSU OV is crucial.
Right. Texas visit just gives him an additional option to think about. They do an extremely good job of hosting there (especially for instate kids who are high profile) and 6th St, etc… Is fun for teenagers.
Ultimately its up to FSU to reassure is decision is the correct one, that there are no odd reservations.
by FSU on Jan 2, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
OT Looks like Tennessee is losing some players, with 2 decommits I think in the past two days
Watch out for my favorite “Big” WR Jason Croom (6-5 223 electronic 4.53 40)to give Oklahoma State a look. Great kid off the field.
Has some of the best senior film imo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiI_0I2r7Bw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
they lost their DC to washington and another assistant
that Rocky Top Nation said was one of their best recruiters. I don’t know how well their class is gonna turn out but if some do decommit I hope they choose FSU
by bphillips11 on Jan 2, 2012 7:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
We need to get after Croom ASAP
after watching his film before i was really impressed. He looks like Smith right now
Proof that college coaches care about combine #'s
Less then 24 hours after the UA combine RB Ryan Green received a offer from USF, Green ran a 4.47 electronic 40.
Safety Marcell Harris received a offer from Notre Dame 5 hours after his performance.
All colleges pay attention to combine #‘s. Now it’s not the only tool they use to evaluate a player,but it is a very important part.
Completely agree. Helps set a baseline when competing against varying competition and when initially unfamiliar with a prospect not having him in camp.
by FSU on Jan 2, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
ok Day 2 of ESPN U.A.....sooo much to report bumbed into BUD out there as well.....soon as i get the chance i wlll update everything i can...as well as day 2 of pictures coming as well...
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 4:11 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
There sub sites are really going overtime in scare tactics lol
If you read some of the headlines you would think the sky is falling
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Cruised a few of the sister SB nation sites
A few of them are speaking openly about MEJ transitioning to DT secondary to his weight. Im curious about his since we’ve talked about him over here for ~10 months and this really hasnt come up to my knowledge.
I feel confident that we would keep him at DE and I would think an 18 year old would want that as well since it’s a stats position with lots of potential star power.
Once Coach Vic gets his claws in him he will stay at the 275-280 range and be a beast DE for us
Our S&C program is top notch and can help him become the best he can be at whichever position he wants to play. I think it is DE
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
If he's quick enough @290
he’ll stay in that range.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
by BenDNole on Jan 2, 2012 6:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The defenses at LSU when Jimbo was there had 290+ DEs I believe.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
The ESPNU reporters - McShay, Luginbill, etc - just said he was two biscuits shy of 300...297lbs.
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
gatornation - ungracious in victory, arrogant in defeat
by HaveNoleOption on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
MEJ gave a GREAT interview on ESPNU during the UA practices
by FSU on Jan 2, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Recruiting process, what he liked about it, what he didn’t… And why he liked FSU (coaches, more specifically players and how it felt like a family, etc).
by FSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
MEJ can play whatever position he wants to once he faxes his LOI--including, but not limited to, SDE, DT, TE, K, cheerleader, and/or moped security.
He’s a specimen like Kevin Carter was, better athleticism at 18 though.
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ok Day 2 photos and info alll reguarding FSU..
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Mario, Dante and Chris all get set for drills!! GO NOLES….
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:08 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Awesome
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 2, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
photos that you can't MISS COMING SOON..........."HINT" lets just say REAL NOLES STICK TOGETHER SCREW THE RUMORS!!!
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:19 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
The next set of pictures i'm going to put up your going to luv....
NOLES always stick together……can you imagination the amount of pain we are going to give teams with just these 3 alone for the next 4 to 5 years!!! Dante was sure to tell me he is working on Eddie coming to FSU…….
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:28 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
i tell you what though....
Leonard Williams is a TRU TRU stud he was alll over the place kinda wish we go after him he completely killed “PEAT” on ONE on one drills one of which i have a picture of anyone he was asked to line up against he pretty much showed out..
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:47 PM EST reply actions
No doubt. FSU fans should root for LW to Auburn if not FSU. Kid can play.
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do you still think we go after him in case we don't get Eddie?? or is it to late for that?
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I think he might
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I really haven't heard ANYONE say anything negative about that kid
Getting rave reviews all the way around
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Think i did last night.
“I really haven’t heard ANYONE say anything negative about that kid”
Thought he was lazy and took plays off. Glad to see he has his head on straight.
I liked his film that was posted on here a while ago.
I hoped we stayed in contact with him just in case Fowler (at the time) or Edwards flipped.
Turned on the UA practice for a few minutes in between commercials
and saw PJ Williams throwing the chop multiple times.
by seminolecpa on Jan 2, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i was just about to comment on P.J another stud he had 2 INT today by him self....
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:54 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
another stud i'm trying to turn on my own...
but may be hard is Marcus maye he was asked to play linebacker but is a tru safety/cb at the next level seeing that he is from my city i was in his ear the entire past two days and he made it clear to me he loves FSU and would listen if the coaches came calling although his relationship with his D.B coach at UF is pretty strong give me one week with him i know i can bring him to FSU that is if we even have room….
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions
take it from me....
don’t talk to him at a gas station or else…
Or else you will never hear the end of it. Amiright?
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Nonstaff should NEVER suggest thy they are recruiting anyone…even in jest
by FSU on Jan 3, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
as long as hes not a booster and doesn't offer any kind of gifts IMO there is nothing to worry about
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
but youre right, better not so post about it.
at least in such clear lang, you can get the same message across more vaguely
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
better not to post about it
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
Maye, Chris and Mario have some words........
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
"COME ON MAN" ....Edwards getting his way with the kids....
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 7:59 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
here is that pic with L.Williams beating out PEAT...
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:01 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
trust me when i say Marcus def has interest when it comes to FSu....
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:04 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Couple questions
Are you this guy standing next to Maye?
Whats your relationship with Marcus?
How was Winston’s day? I heard not the greatest, but def an improvement from the first day…?
Are all these questions u are asking all these guys getting on their nerves? if not keep it up
to answer your questions..
no that isn’t me that was just some guy in the way….
2. Marcus brother and i grew up together playing AAU b-ball so Marcus was always around so i’ve known Marcus since he was 9yrs old. As well as alot of south Fl and central Fl high school coaches
3. Winston has struggled but watching him today on the ESPNU he has done pretty well im sure he will show out on thursday if he can.
4. hahaha What i look like some stalker? i’m not getting paid for any of this, I’m just reporting some stuff i figured you would like to hear as noles fans if u like in the future i won’t post any pictures or say anything at all if it makes you feel better…..
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 3, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
Man, you are doing a great job.
Keep it up, we all appreciate the hell out of it.
One thing though, we need to come up with an abbreviation, or an acronym of some sort for your TN name. It is just ToooOooOooooOoOooOOO long.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 3, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hearing that Muschamp is promising him immediate PT
or earlier than FSU can offer, which is why he’s a Gator.
Championship!
P.J studying the offense......before he made his first INT for the day!!!
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This next one says it alll.....Kill the RUMORS this man is alll F.S.U!!!!! this one is DEF WORTH KEEPING!!!!
ALLLLLLLLL …………….N…….O……L…….E………………
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
UA game
You have to think with the three DE’s we have committed practicing and having fun together is nothing but a positive for us. If these guy are having this much fun here i think they would want to stay together next year at FSU same with winstin and bracy.
black mamba
I know we probably had no chance with this guy, but does anyone know if we offered this talented back from Oregon. If Bracy is faster than this dude, look out!
I tell you what man this kid is complete STUD there is no stopping him on the field!!!
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:19 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Bracy? He looks like he's put on some good weight.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 2, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
he's rite that is not BRACY that is L.Collins!! most likely headed to LSU...
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
was wondering how he added weight so fast lol. The #2 jersey threw me off.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 2, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I know his brother.
His brother played on the same team as my little brother. Back to back 4A (out of 5A) state championship runner ups (smh). His name is Gerald Willis, and he’s a beast. Will be one of the top 2014 DEs in the country.
Don't worry guys i had a long talk with Dante and his parents today.....as i said before kill the rumors the man is all FSU!!
i will go into detail what all we talked about after signing day…….trust me when i say it worth reading…………
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
The Question I have about Dante
is not about his loyalty to FSU, but I heard rumors around St. Pete that he might not have the grades. Any truth to this?
As Promised yesterday....i made sure i made some time to speak with E.Goldman and his parents...
he def likes the idea of playing with Chris, Mario, and Dante…..once we got done speaking his mother walked up to me and said Nice Hoodie which was of course was FSU, so i looked to her and said thank you but my question is," would it look better on your Son??" after she laughed, she look to me and said “It just mite” and i said im going to hold you to that Miss Goldman…
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:31 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
also spoke to his brother on the side line who is only in the 10th grade told me he is going to LSU to but his top teams are LSU and FSU at the moment and would listen if FSu came calling, still a long road ahead but why not start now
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Mario once again.....i agree with "BUD"...i think he ends up at FSU.. even though he is announcing here that my top teams are Tx after his visit and lsu then FSU...
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
hearing that Mario is getting reps at DT
and, well, he’s good. I wonder if he wants to play DT and if Texas is offering him as a DT. Anyone?
Championship!
Faster impact at DT because of his quickness and size
I think as a DE that he needs to trim some baby fat and get quicker to play DE. Player his caliber does what he wants though.
How do you figure??
Faster impact at DT because of his quickness and size
SDE – He walks into the 2nd-team spot immediately.
DT – 3 deep in front of him.
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Very True DRusso
I meant that more from a talent perspective, not FSU’s depth chart. I agree with you 100% that he would be a bigger asset to FSU as a DE but that wasn’t what I was trying to say.
I think the skill set right now though would create matchup nightmares for guards because of his size and quickness. I think he is will make an impact as a DE as well don’t get me wrong. I just think that as a freshmen he could make a splash as a DT on passing situations.
He "could" play DT, and perhaps be very good at it (in time), but he can & will make an IMMEDIATE impact at SDE.
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He is masterful at stopping the run because of his physical style and natue. I paid special attention to him in last night’s game and he did go up against Peat who was probably the best offensive linemen in that game. Mario didn’t show me enough to warrant that he will be a great pass rusher in his early years at DE. His bull rush is his main move accompanied with his ability to see where the play is going and take amazing angles. And this could all be due to Peat’s play but Mario struggled at times, he took plays off and didn’t even attempt to crash the pocket on the plays he took off.
I would say he is probably as good as a run stopper as Werner right now but I don’t think his pass rushing skills are. I just think he is a little too heavy right now to be maximizing his pass rushing skills. With Elliot’s help and our S&C program he should sharpen up his pass rushing skills and also get his quickness back. One thing I really like about Edwards is that he really enjoys punishing the ball carrier. He definitely has that mean streak in him.
Edwards ran a 4.75 40 at a TCU camp I was at at the end of the summer of his Junior year.
Granted he weighed 268lbs(now around 290) if I recall correctly, but he is also training with his former NFL CB dad in Mario Edwards Sr every day so I doubt he runs slower then a 4.8 ish 40. Vic will improve on this imo. If former Clemson DE Daquan Bowers can play DE so can Edwards imo.
he is a perfect DE for a 3-4 scheme
But like you said if Bowers can do it so can Edwards. I like how nobody has thrown the Reggie White comparison yet.
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
ok welll thats more then enough i'm tired......... i did my part....GO NOLES>>>>!!!!
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions
Thanks a ton!
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 2, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you guys think he ends up at FSU even though they are 3rd on his list?
Seems kind of odd. And how did LSU jump ahead of us? Has he even visited them? I hope we are going hard after Williams.
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That top 3 is bs imo. He is just playing it up for ESPN.
All Nole unless something drastic happens on his OV to us
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
nah i just think he is playing with the media.....he seemed to be having to much fun with Dante and chris today i don't think he will end anywhere but FSU....
he is like Dante part 2…..where is always talking about other schools but in the end of the day he is all Fsu if you ask me, alot of players spoke “The REAL STORY” to me for the past two day because of my relationship with Marcus Maye, which are all on the black team as well as the fact i wasn’t presenting myself as some one working for some site or recruiting service….cough cough haha…
by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Just be sure
and let them know you post. I don’t like misleading people to have them speak freely and then posting about it without their knowledge.
Think of it like the leader in the clubhouse.
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MEJ
I have a hard time believing he is “playing with the media” he is the #1 recruit in the nation, he already has all the publicity he can handle. But i hope y’all are right!!!! I am tired of keeping up with all the guys changing there minds every week, I am just going to trust Jimbo and co. to lock them up. Bud would you call Jimbo a good recruiter or a great recruiter?
When dealing with this many elite kids, perspective is needed. FSU won’t keep them all. But the y still have a great class.
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Remember when he was flirting with Oklahoma, what happened after that?
He visited FSU and reaffirmed his commitment. I think that will happen again when he visits FSU the 1/13.
oh one more for ha ha sake!! Like i said all day at the game last thurs.
WE DONE WENT JASON ON THEM on DEFENSE!!!!! “BOOTS TO AZZES”…
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by FearThaSpearWeAreFSU on Jan 2, 2012 8:59 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Ron Simmon's new wrestling gimmick?
Damn…
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That's awesome
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 2, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Only way that outfit could be any rapey-er......is if it was a Gators hockey mask.
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by DRusso97 on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And he pulled up in this
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I wonder how many times that guy has been pulled over and searched just on principle
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HA
the paint job alone is enough for “reasonable suspicion”
Ya, but what he is tripping on is the hardest to find, and the easiest to hide.
That is assuming it is on paper. Chances are, that dude has a multiplicity of illegal substances in that ride.
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by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 3, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
RapeY
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it was def OT, but I never turn down an opportunity to post on said topic
More to the point, what was the point of your post, other than to be a killjoy?
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Are any of our targets announcing at the UA game this week?
Pardon my ignorance if this is common knowledge among the recruitniks.
I'm startin to think MEJ isn't gonna end up here
I don’t understand how he is still committed if we are his 3rd school
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 2, 2012 10:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think if he was gonna flip to UT he would have done it right after his OV to Texas. Not sure why he’d wait if he knew he liked UT that much over FSU. I think FSU is in good shape if he’s been committed this long and hasn’t decommitted.
Unless he feels obligated to OV because of his father, and doesn't want to face the coaches as a decommit.
There’s a bunch of angles to this thing.
1.) Legacy
2.) One of the best players in the country
3.) Distance
4.) Local college is recruiting powerhouse
Pretty complicated recruiting situation, really
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Just throwing out a crazy scenario.
I certainly wouldn’t believe it or anything but i’m gonna throw this out there and see if any of it sticks. Is there any possibility of Jimbo and company sitting down with Senior and Junior, asks if he wants to come to FSU and Junior says “no, i want to go to OU or UT.” Then senior and jimbo asks if he wants to commit early to FSU to help them so they can continue with the momentum built from the class of 2011 and get other recruits to hop on board…only to not sign with FSU on NSD…
Completely agree
That IS crazy.
I look at it this way. If the recruit doesn’t know for sure, then nobody does.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Think it would hurt with the good recruits that are not as good as him
Knowing your a DE and going against a class of DE thats as good as any seen. He may scare a decent one away. Not to mention for this long I am sure that other people in the know would know where he was going.
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I'm really not worried about DL recruits.
Were already stacked and we will land at least 2 between Goldman, Casher, MEJ, and Fowler. I’m much more worried about landing Pender who isnt talked about as much but is much more important to our future success as we are thin at RB. I mean we have Freeman as our only natural runner with vision at the HB position and I sure as hell wouldnt bet on him staying healthy for every game next year. We NEED Pender or a Freeman injury would give us Pryor/JWJ backfield which isnt ideal.
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I'd like to see JWJ get a real shot to improve. I have confidence in Pryor too
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I believe Pender is starting classes tomorrow
by nolesblogger on Jan 3, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Really? Surely that would make huge news here at TN
as this would make Pender officially a nole.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 3, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
He is (or at least was) an EE
Classes start tomorrow and he dropped out of his All American game.
I don’t know for sure, but I haven’t heard otherwise.
Time at the UA combine & game
with Fowler, Casher, PJ Williams (maybe even Goldman) have to help FSU’s cause.
Championship!
yeah, fowler is his roommate
only negative is that TU has 10 players on the roster too. I am REALLY encouraged about Fowler lately. He seems to have put all those rumors of him flipping to bed lately
by newdynastynole on Jan 3, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
he finished watching UFs season
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Howard
Starting to think the ship has sailed for Tracey Howard. He was on a live chat really talking up LSU and Florida and how he can’t chose between the 2
howard was talking about the uniforms
" better uniforms lsu,florida or fsu"
" I would have to go with Florida and LSU… I can’t pick between the two"
by reid-the-manuel on Jan 2, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't know about Howard anymore..
He had an Interview online today where he spoke about his top schools UF & LSU are his top two FSU is third he seems to have a very good relationship with Coach Robinson of Florida & said he liked the Town as well. He said he’s not so sure about Tallahassee because the environment is similar to Miami and thats what he’s trying to get away from… Any chance with him?
lol at Howard thinking Tally is anything like Miami
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by NOLEFAN1 on Jan 3, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And most arrest last 4 years UF?
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by caine115 on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he said he doesn't know about tally
saying fsu isnt out of it but I just don’t know about Tallahassee
by reid-the-manuel on Jan 3, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you CornNole.......you make me feel better while I sit in front of my computer at 1:30 in the morning.
You’re like internet porn.
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by FSU on Jan 3, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
especially the recruiting thread
where we talk about 18 year old…Drusso or should I say sandusky?
by reid-the-manuel on Jan 3, 2012 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
Yes.
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by JaviLouis on Jan 3, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He’d be better out starting out with googling his own name.
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 3, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
TN is my homepage.....gotta pass here on the way to porn.
You guys are missing the point—MaizeNole is pretty well informed on recruiting & he’s telling us Howard isn’t gone yet.
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from ESPN.com Day 2 at the UA practice
Back in action
After sitting out most of Sunday’s practice, Eddie Goldman was back for the entire session on Monday.
Goldman, a five-star defensive tackle from Washington (D.C.) Friendship, said he competed well and had two sacks, a couple of tackles and a pass break-up on a screen pass.
He also has many players recruiting him.
Fowler Jr., who is committed to Florida State, said Goldman is priority No. 1.
“He likes to keep everything on the low,” Fowler Jr. said. “He seems pretty responsive. Me and Mario [Edwards], we were with him in the summer and we talked to him. We’re just trying to take it step by step.”
by chan011 on Jan 3, 2012 4:40 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Rec, for sure.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 3, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Seminole bookends
Fowler and Edwards were two of the most impressive defensive linemen on Monday. The competition between the two helps motivate.
“Oh yeah,” Fowler Jr. said with a smile. “On top of that, both of us are committed [to Florida State]. We’re committed to the same team and we know each other. Of course that’s going to be competition. And we’re roommates so that’s all we talk about is ‘I can do this better. I can do that.’ It’s fun, just competition.”
by chan011 on Jan 3, 2012 4:40 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
If this doesn't go green on a recruiting thread, I don't know what will.
Rec from me, I did my part.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 3, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
Tracy Howard
Has he had in OV yet? It sounds like he is not feeling tally at all. Hopefully he comes one more time and the staff shows him a great time. I think he is also really soaking up the attention now too.
Also, I think we need to really push for Colin Blake – hope he makes it for the visit. Landing one of the two is important with Reid, Avis and Xavier probably leaving next year.
I wonder about his OV too
Especially seeing as Reid will be a senior, XR will be hot on draft boards and Avis may not be on the team next year.
Beaty the punter might be along with Pender and Glauser.
Marvin Bracy is not EE despite some reports.
Did Pender already sign and LOI?
Haven’t heard about it yet…
EE don't sign a LOI early
they simply enroll in the spring and then sign on signing day
So does that mean Pender starts classes tomorrow and if so does that lock him in as a "for sure" to come to FSU?
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Prestwood was an EE last year and left after a few weeks (I think that is the right time frame)
if he were to leave, he’d be treated as a normal transfer and sit out a year
Anyone have season statistics on the kickers?
Curious on Aguayo and Beatty’s season statistics. Likely one of them takes over punting duties next season (Beatty long term, though maybe Aguayo for a season while Hopkins continues kicking dominance).
Powell will be missed, just trying to project a dropoff. Another aspect of Powell is he was the holder the last four years, though only film can evaluate that – hard to see the quality of a holder from statistics, as bad numbers could also be the kicker or snapper.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jan 3, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions
From what I remember about Beatty
Hes got the leg to be pretty good at bombing distance punts, but not many will replicate inside 20 any time soon. Wonder how much Gran can do for his technique/control, seeing that Shawn was a beast
yea, remember that as well from video
just wondering what the 2011 stats were. Found Beatty’s hometown paper but they had no stats of use on anything related to special teams.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jan 3, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Shawn's first full year was averaging 41.6 YPP w/ long of 64, 44.3 as a junior with long of 66, 47.6 as a senior with long of 69
It’s safe to say player development with punters has been good since Gran has been here.
I don’t doubt that Beatty will be good for us, but nobody expects him to be Brad Wing his freshman season.
He could be Brad wing. What I DONT think we expect is him to be Powell anytime soon.
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 3, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Man, we are going to miss Powell.
And not just for his kicking. You bring up a great point about the holding, Powell has been D.Hop’s holder since he got here. How easy, or should I say hard, will it be to replace that holder? What kind of effect will that have on D.Hop?
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 3, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Make Coker the holder.....and add an extra element to the XP/FG team.
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Takes him away from practice time at QB, no?
I thought that was the whole reason that the holder is always the punter who is generally seperately bored/twiddling thumbs at practice.
Any questions for FSU commits LB Markuss Eligwe and DT Justin Shanks as I will be heading to San Antonio tomorrow?
I’ll be covering the Army All American game for all SB Nation sites not just FSU, but I just wanted to see if there is a certain question you guys wanted to know on these two.
I just want to know if they are ready to win NC's for FSU and look good doing it
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
I saw u had Shanks rated over goldman
I’d be interested to see his reaction on you having him as the best dt in the nation or close to it…
by Cee on Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
How tight (or not) this group of recruits are
Do they talk regularly, are they all working together on other recruits.
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Ask why they chose the Army AA game over the Under Armour game.
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 3, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Do they have a relationship with various FSU coaches and how would they describe it? For example: Hudson, Craig, Coley,Gran,etc…
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 3, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
How much do you hate the number they gave you?
it made the front page of yahoo….
T.G. WR UA AA Tampa....thoughts on him?
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
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Yes. He is gifted.
Speed is a great asset; but it's greater when it's combined with quickness - and there's a big difference.
- Ty Cobb
I'm looking forward to seeing him enrolled next week
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 3, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine....
Howard, Poole, and then Vernon Hargraves for UF at CB…. yikes!!!
Jameis Winston Interview
Talks the game and, of course, Noles….Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but its better than nothing…Really looking forward to his next visit Now
They basically tell hymn to tell the viewers to reaffirm is commitment....
They say “your commitment to FSU is …..” And he says “…strong” , but I would have liked a ‘solid’ or ‘100%’. He said it with slight hesitation. In addition, he straight up says something along the lines of “When I first went, I was very high on the Noles, and then that feeling died out…thats why Im looking forward to my next visit, to see if I can get that same feeling” Not verbatim, but something like that…
Hence why I say his next visit is crucial. But I have no doubt Jimbo will have everything ready …
They sounds like your typical teenager.
Should be expected with his age.
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 3, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
"This"
"You can’t live a perfect day until you do something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
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"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 3, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Man
you make that seem bad the way he said that and it was nothing of the sort, there was no hesitation, he never said the feeling died, it was “since i havent been back in awile, the feeling may have wavered”BUT…….“I truly believe when I go back in January I will get that same feeling again”…man you work for ESPN or something..
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Exactly...
I was more worried about what he said about baseball than what he had to say about FSU. He never said the feeling died about FSU, just that it waivered and he has no doubt the “this is it” feeling will be back during/after his OV.
Also, when they were showing that guy with the gator before his interview…anyone catch his comment about “Chop those gators up” with the little smirk on his face? To me, it’s FSU or MLB for him.
by Noles Fan in ND on Jan 3, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Thought the big visit date was 1/13
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wow, watching the UA practice on ESPNU right now...
and i feel like its the same thing over and over…. “OK you are watching the OLine vs DLine drills. Wow, look at that burst from Dante Fowler Jr. He is so explosive and is a commit to FSU. Wow, look at that spin move from Chris Casher. A great D-end who is committed to FSU. Wow, look at that grown man, manhandle that OLine. That is Mario Edwards the #1 recruit in the country and he is also a D-end committed to FSU.” (Tom Luginbill). He also doesn’t stop talking about Eddie Goldman. (crossing my fingers!) This could be a sicker D-Line in 3 years than the D-Line next year. These guys are ridiculous. Also, Michael what are the chances that DFjr moves to LB since the D-Line talent is overflowing and the LB depth is a little slim?
well isn't fowler like 235 and casher like 260-270?
fowler, IMHO, has the better tools to be an OLB than Casher. But isn’t Casher to big?
Fowler will play the Brandon Jenkins role...
as a DE/LB pass rusher. He said he wants to be used in multiple ways kind of like how Florida uses Powell or we use Brandon. Casher is only being recruited as a DE but he does have the physical tools to play linebacker also and would be interesting to see if we see him in multiple situations as well…
Seems to me it pains them to talk good about FSU and they stress that every commit we have is verbal and could be looking elsewhere.
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 3, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Fowler ran a electronic 4.65 40 which is faster then Telvin Smith and James Wilder.
So straight line speed he could play the position., I just think in space he would have some trouble. He doesn’t have the hips for coverage in the zone scheme imo. Same goes for Casher who ran a freakish 4.59 electronic 40. While they could play LB, it would be limiting their potentitial imo. Both freaks regardless of positions. NFL type combine #’s
He is right
What happens when Fowler gets stuck on a RB who runs a wheel route and Fowler can’t flip his hips fast enough and trips on his feet. If routes were straight lines Fowler could cover but that ins’t the case.
When it becomes about competition the "Neo" switch gets flipped on
by FSU on Jan 3, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fowler and Casher
They will stay at DE because you can never have enough great pass rushers.
Fear we have a great community at Tomahawknation and what you are posting is just making it better
Guys he is doing this for free. SBNation.com is growing by the day and the same goes for Tomahawknation.com. If it keeps up soon we will be needing more analyst/mod’s for this site along with the rest of the network in the future. Pay sites are already taking notice of SBNation.com as we have live coverage of the Under Armour practices/Game and I(heading there tomorrow) along with another SBNation team site editor will be covering the Army All American game live. Big things are coming. The more you put into this site the more traffic we get the more we can offer you guys free info/videos/interviews etc.
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by Michael@TN on Jan 3, 2012 11:18 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
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by seminoleballer on Jan 4, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Top Performers at UA Practices for Team Blur
Plenty of Noles mentioned
http://247sports.com/Article/Under-Armour-Blur-Top-Performers-55540
They forgot to mention how Winston won the QB contest
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 4, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
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