The G5 movement (Greg Reid)
by Kenow92 on Feb 10, 2011 2:45 PM EST
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The G5 Movement:
Every Seminole fan knows who Greg "G5" Reid is, this season (2011-2012) I think it would be great if Seminole Nation did something special for one of the most exciting players in the ACC and maybe even all of College Football. This season anytime Greg is back to back to return a kick or punt all Nole fans should raise one hand in the air showing 5 fingers representing his number, this is a token of appreciation to G5 for his stellar play from his freshman and sophmore season and will also inspire him to take his play up to another level during his junior year. At the same time this will send the opposing teams fans, players, and coaches a message that anytime he touches the Football he could break it for a big play and possibly a Touchdown. Kick it to him at your own risk, just know he's gona make you pay. This will also help to get the fans involved during the game. I know i've been to games last year and saw a few fans throwing up 5's when he's back to return but i want to make it bigger then just a few fans i want this to be a movement all 80,000+ on their feet with they're 5's in the air can you picture that? Let's make this happen 'Noles!! A lot of fans think we should chant while we are doing this i think thats a great idea also if you have any ideas on a chant we could do or noise we could make while doing this please let your opinion be known, Maybe one half of the stadium Yelling out G and the other half yelling 5 like they do with the garnet and gold thing.
2011 recruiting:
With the 2011 recruiting season over and Florida State landing a great class, Who will step up and be an impact freshman? Will we have as many as last year?(17) How much bigger will they get with our Nutrition program? And who do you think is a sleeper in this class?
2012 recruiting:
What positions are needed the most right now?
Wishlist: I know right now 3 players that have really impressed me with the 2012 class are Barry Sanders Jr, Deon Bush, and Mario Edwards Jr. Any chance we get any of them? Maybe all? Who are some other players Seminole Nation should be on the look out for?
NFL Draft:
We all know Christian Ponder, and Rodney Hudson were very impressive in the Senior bowl, Hopefully that will effect there draft stock. Where do you see them going? I'm hearing a lot about CP7 in San Fran, I wouldnt mind that at all. What about Hudson though Seattle? Also Kendall Smith, Mister Alexander, and Markus White any chance of them getting drafted?
Nike Pro Combat Uniform:
Will we get one this year?
OPINIONS PLEASE.
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if perhaps the two most revered recent seminole alumni (buster and ponder) land in the bay
fsu may have to start a west coast campus!
Whenever I think of Seminole greatness, I always come back to Buster Posey laying the smackdown on Percy Harvin. Buster was in one of my sociology classes that semester, and we gave him a standing O that Monday.
by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 11, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
BUSTER DAVIS. Christ. I need caffeine.
by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 11, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
It’s okay Buster Posey is a bad ass too.
by nolefansteve on Feb 20, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Would be pretty sweet to see a chant going.
"You are the hope I have for change, You are the only chance I'll take"
-Switchfoot
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im not about calling out and cheering for one particular player, especially one that hasnt been the star of the team. he is an electrifying returner, and an average corner at this point. good skills, but inconsistent with poor tackling technique. if we were talking about deion, i could maybe see doing it, but greg isnt even the best player on our defense, much less the team.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Feb 10, 2011 3:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't think you can say Greg an average corner by any measure
There is a big difference between being average and not a prototypical NFL corner. If Greg would have played as well all year as he did in the Bowl Game he would have been all-league. Greg isn’t ideal but he certainly isn’t average.
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That's the point. He didn't play like he did in the bowl throughout the season.
I wouldn’t say average, he’s good. He’s just not close to great at this point. But to say he deserves a special chant is, IMO insane.
by FTSNole on Feb 10, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He was a first year starter
He was second on the team in PBU and interceptions. He made Hon. Mention all ACC even though he started the season horrendously. People inside the FSU ring should recognize the progress he made.
Yes, the bowl game was only one game. But it was a BIG game on a big stage and he was the best player on the field, for either team that night.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 10, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think you have confused me for someone who thinks Greg Reid isn't good.
I said he was a good player and I’ve said he’s a great return man and overall athlete. If you wish to cheer for him only when he’s about to return a kick go ahead. But it takes 11 men to score not 1 Greg Reid. No player in the CFB deserves his own chant IMO, if that helps people understand where I’m coming from.
by FTSNole on Feb 10, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe I just get a little more pumped up at the games.....
But there have plenty of players of the years who have gone above and beyond their fellow teammates. I really am not trying to use his biggest game of the year for this example but 11 players didnt hit Lattimore, Greg did.
It takes 11 players giving it their all to score consistantly. It definately doesnt take 11 players giving their all, to score though.
I do understand you wanting to respect the team as a whole. Thats fine with me.
Im gonna hold up my five fingers though.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
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"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
So this is all because the Bowl game performance?
Well just FYI FSU played 14 games and he was impressive in 2. Samford and the bowl game. Did we ever make a special chant for any other player? EVER? Has any player ever had their own chant in college football?
Why didn’t we make a chant for Hudson who was penalized twice in 4 years as a starting right gaurd. Hudson got named All-ACC FOUR times. Yea in his FIRST, second, third and fourth year starting. Where’s his chant? Where’s Ponders chant? Jenkins? Bradham? Rhodes? They’ve all made just as much if not more plays then Reid but now Reid gets his own chant? Insane.
by FTSNole on Feb 10, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So, you don't see the merit on PUNTS ONLY?
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
many times he doesn't get a shot.
he had to fair catch a lot of punts during the season
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"Literature was not born the day when a boy crying "wolf, wolf" came running out of the Neanderthal valley with a big gray wolf at his heels; literature was born on the day when a boy came crying "wolf, wolf" and there was no wolf behind him." - Vladimir Nabokov
Oh well, different strokes i suppose.
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
I was going to apologize for assuming incorrectly
but it looks like I didn’t have you confused. If you think he was only impressive in 2 games you’ve been reading too much TN. Try to recognize progress players make even if they’re not on the “like list”. He was terrible in his FIRST EVER start (no, I don’t count Samford) at CB and bad against UNC. Between those he was inconsistent. From the UNC game on he was quite good and fantastic against UF and USCe. You don’t make ANY all conference list if you were only good in two games.
I don’t give a damn about making some chant just for him, but punt returns is sort of a traditional get the F’ out your seat time at FSU…it used to be…he’s exciting and damn good at PR, so why not stand up and recognize him for that.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 10, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'll get up and cheer for him when he makes a play.
But I seemed to be shaking my head and/or yelling at him for making bonehead plays way more often then great ones. I never said he never made progress and I still haven’t said he’s a bad player. I’ve even said he’s a great PR so we agree. You just think he’s worty of his own chant and I don’t.
I guess you didnt read my post
“I really am not trying to use his biggest game of the year for this example”
If people asked for a Ponder chant I would do it. If people asked for a Hudson chant I would do it. I would do a chant for any one of our starters.
Youre comparison is down right ignorant though. Were talking about a play in the game where one man is the center of attention, that man whether you like it or not is Greg Reid. If me putting my hand in the universal symbol for the number five will help his moral in the slightest way possible. Im going to do it. When should i chant for Hudson?
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by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, you have a man crush on Greg Reid
It’s okay. Toss up any sign you want and chant until your heart’s content. Others may even join you. Set the trend and see if anyone follows.
by Dauntless12 on Feb 11, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
I have a man crush on every seminole bro.
I clearly stated I would do the same for any one of them.
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by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
I should have read further down.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 11, 2011 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
"Did we ever make a special chant for any other player? EVER? Has any player ever had their own chant in college football?"
I remember everyone going “POOOOOOOOOH” for Pooh Bear Williams. Don’t know if that will make you chant for G5, but that is at least 1 FSU player with his own chant.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 11, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
we had a special chant
For Gino Torretta. I was at the game, but was told it was so loud you could hear it over the announcers.
by skifsu on Feb 11, 2011 5:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don’t know if it counts, but I remember a lot of people in the stands making an X out of their arms when they wanted Xavier Lee to play or when he did something well.
by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 11, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
so basically, they did it when they wanted him to play
he really did a whole lot of nothin at doak
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
He was no worse than Weatherford. Maybe not in pure stats, but at least in my memory.
by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 11, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
trust me, he was worse (and yes, that is possible)
he had a good game vs. bama, and thats about it. a few highlight reel throws coupled with underwhelming production only highlighted his wasted potential.
one particular throw still haunts me: he had a wide open fred rouse on a post, and he threw the ball 20 yds downfield to the spot rouse was at the time he threw it, not where he was going to be. rouse nearly slowed to a stop to come back for it and still couldnt get to it. and i was in the endzone, so the throw came straight at me, and i saw it happening as soon as he released it. fortunately, he was so open nobody picked it off.
he got his shot when weatherford got hurt and played poorly, and he played his way right back to the bench. started hot, and got worse so fast i dont think he lasted more than 3 games. athleticism and potential dont win games, but he sure seemed to think so.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Whoa,"in the endzone"?
Maybe im slow….. did you play ball at FSU?
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
endzone meaning endzone seating
i was front row next to the tunnel, so i may as well have been on the field.
god no, i wish i had been good enough to play. shoot, as a former soccer player, the only thing i may have had a shot at is kicking/punting. i know where my limits are, and those guys are more talented and athletic than i am. no shame in admitting that.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I hear ya.
No shame, i’d have no business on the field w/ them either.
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
he was a first year starter
and this year’s first year CB starter did make all-acc (2nd team). your argument’s a little conflated.
I don’t disagree with helping our team keep the momentum going after a defensive stop with some stadium electricity on punts. Is holding 5 fingers a good way to do that? Maybe.
WTF are you talking about?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 10, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
sorry for being too concise, let me restate my comment
(line 1) G5 was a sophomore, which means he still has time to progress and impress us at fsu. But it also means he has less time than a freshman. Our freshman starter this past year, Xavier, was better than him. You mentioned G5 was honorary all-acc, but Xavier was actual all-acc. So, defensively, it makes little on-paper sense to single out G5 for hype.
(line 2-3) The original post said we should do something like show 5 fingers or do a chant before kicks as a way to make the stadium more exciting/loud and to pump up our special teams unit on the field, especially Greg. I don’t disagree about doing this, as it helps keep the momentum going for punts – presumably if they’re punting to us then we just had a defensive stand and are now looking to transition to an offensive score. If they are kicking, well we need some momentum anyway after just getting scored on (though there’s been speculation in the past that Joyner or someone else will take over as kick returner this year, see conversation below). I don’t know if singling out the kid who is the cockiest one on the field is the best way to do this, but I could be wrong.
by stevib on Feb 10, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn't singling him out for hype
I was refuting the nonsense that he’s an “average” player. And no, he’s not better than a sure fire 1st round NFL CB, but guess what…neither are 99.9% of the rest of CFB CBs. He does NOT have less time to develop than XR and might even have more. XR will be here two more years, tops, and maybe only one, whereas Greg definitely has two more.
And the point of this post isn’t to give him some chant while he’s dropping back in coverage, which would make the XR is better argument relevant, it’s to do something different when he’s back to return punts. He is one of the most dynamic PR’s in CFB, so that’s not a ridiculous idea.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 10, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, I understand all of that, no worries.
I was just aiming to keep the comments in perspective.
Far be it from me to try to try to make the games less enjoyable or exciting, for those in the stands or on the field. And anything that prevents the wave, I’m down for that.
He mixes excellent with awful, which makes him average overall.
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by Bud Elliott on Feb 10, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You don't understand football, I'm afraid.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 11, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
cold burn rec
playing well in the last game and poorly in the first real game (OU) does not mean he showed a lot of improvement through the year. even if this is meant to be sarcastic, its still funny.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
That would be good analysis from Brent Musberger
not from someone who watches every game.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 11, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
or herbie
who jumped from miami’s bandwagon to ours mid-game. nice journalistic integrity there, herbie. sounds like you actually knew what you were talking about the whole time, didnt you?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Yeah, him too.
Musberger was the first name that popped in my head.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 11, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
What a thorough analysis... c'mon man
The fact is Greg Reid brings something to this team that no one else does. What’s so wrong with pumping him up by chanting his name when he has the opportunity to make a play? I don’t see a scenario where this backfires.
Preach it brother
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by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
On the fire of VICTORY: Gasoline or Water??
Instead of raising HELL and cheering our guys, let’s instead, raise questions and debate the meaning of “good”.
What is going on here?
We have here a proposal to advance our enthusiasm, lift our spirits and be part of something special and some anal retentive poops all over the idea. Damn people!!
When we err, let’s do so on the side of Nole excitement instead of Nole criticism.
There is plenty of room here-abouts and need for critical analysis.
GAS I say, GAS!! Drink your own water but get more damn $4.00 gas on these flames!!
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See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Interesting Questions
1.a. I think it’s between O’leary and Williams. O’leary could have a shot at being the opening day starter if Beau doesn’t get his stuff together academically and he beats Tye out.
b. No. We are much deeper team now then we were in 2010. It’s going to tougher to make the two-deep special teams roster and even tougher to make the Offensive or Defensive Two-Deep. Jimbo first true class was 2008 those guys are headed for the fourth year on campus.
c. There won’t be as noticable a change this year as last. I still expect the gainers to put on a good 10-15 while the Freshmen may gain in the 20s.
d. Keelin Smith or Hunter. If Hunter didn’t have the bad back where would he been rated last year.
2. a. DE
b. We get Bush and Edwards IMO.
3. a. Ponder 2nd round on a reach and Hudson Mid-Second to 4th. Hudson size will keep off some boards so fewer teams will reach for him.
b. Kendall Smith – Free Agent – Speed and Size
c. Mister Alexander – 5th Round Pick lack of Tape offset by great Speed and Size
d. Markus White – 5th-7th based sack numbers offset by lack of ideal size and speed.
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Opinions:
G5 Movement: No, he’s not even our best corner and while he’s a tremendous return man and a great athlete he doesn’t deserve his own chant and hand gesture.
2011 Class: JUCO guys start from Day 1 and Los, O’Leary, and Freeman I would guess might get good PT.
2012 Class: Still need some linemen on both sides, especially DE’s. And a stud QB.
2011 Draft: Ponder in SanFran sounds good. He’ll have some good targets and a great running back. Hudson will be sick wherever he goes. I think Markus White gets drafted and one of K Smith and M Alexander.
Nike Pro Combat: No thanks. Here’s what I think we should do uni wise.
Home: Gold Helmets, Garnet Jerseys, Gold pants.
Away: Gold-White-Gold
vs. UF or Bowl: Gold-Garnet-Garnet or Gold-White-Garnet
Maybe for an away game every 1-2 years-Gold-White-White.
by FTSNole on Feb 10, 2011 3:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
A little more traditional this one is.
No pro combat and no chants for anyone.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Make a pro combat traditional uniform and I'm in...
If it’s not garnet and gold, or all white (except for helmets) I’m out.
The black helmets with the clear coat looked amazing.
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by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of unis
If two teams agree to it, can both wear their home jerseys?
by vickers8 on Feb 10, 2011 3:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
WVU's home uni's are Blue
The Yellow’s are an alternate. Its against against the rules and UCLA USC proved it. The away team (I wanna say USC) showed up in cardinal uni’s and lost a time out as a result and then Rick Nehiesal (can’t spell his name) took one to make things “even”. USC blew out UCLA in the game IIRC.
Towards the end of the first paragraph
Was the longest run-on sentence I have ever read.
But, back to the post, I did love me those Pro-Combat Uni’s against Maryland in ’09. I would love to see them again
Agreed but dont throw stones....
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The 09 Maryland Pro Combat was nasty. Loved it!
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by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I personally think the G.........5............ chant is a very cool idea.
It could also get into the head of the opposing punter(if anyone punts to him)
Furthermore, i think it would be a great way to keep Doak rockin’ when it wouldn’t normally be.
Last but not least, G5 strikes me as the type of kid who feeds off of the crowd, hearing the G5 chant might put him in a different zone completely…… especially if his dad’s there.
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
Exactly why I want to do it. I think he might feed off of it.
You can see him back there everytime trying to get the crowd pumped, doing his patented “arm shuffle?” (his father did it as well when I met him at the Peach bowl, LOL)
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by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Dude's a Gladiator. Simple & plain......
He feeds off of cheers/support /adoration.
And he strikes me as fearless, considering his stature.
Okay, I really wanna do the G5 chant. I’ll only be able to go to the NCSU game most likely, but this chant would be sooooo cool. Let’s make it happen cap’n.
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
2012 recruits
I hope we really get after Josh Clemons, Lowndes – Valdosta, GA. Beast of an athlete w/ awesome ball skills.
If I made it to games I would throw the hand up in a flash.
G5 Is a very good CB. Is he great well I think so for a So. I think he will be even better next year. If by the end of the season hes not elite then by his Sr. year he will be.
But back to the Kickoff and punts This is a small thing that go have large effects. We all want to bring back the fear of playing at home. Small things like this can help that. Thing of the student section going nuts on a 3 and out and G5 going back for the punt. Now the students are fired up the band gets involved. Is it about G5 and showing him the respect for being a great PR guy ya but I think its more about getting the rest of the team fired up.
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Greg is definitely a really good corner
I don’t know if he has shown to be good enough to get his own chants and hand signals.
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And he’s not a great kick returner IMO
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I think so
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Why is that?
The coverages are different of course but is it the lanes? assignments? time? greg? why?
He was never a great kick returner I agree.
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by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Think pure speed
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2 different philosophies.
Kicker returners need more speed – greg isn’t straight-line fast. And/or strength. I don’t think greg has the ability to break arm tackles. Its hard to get him, but he doesn’t have the mass to pull out of a tackle, like L. Washington.
Punt returners need more cahones and lateral quickness. Which I think we can all agree Greg has plenty of.
Also, I’ve seen where people were critical of Gran’s kick return units at tennessee. I wonder how much of that is accurate.
"Each of us possesses a tangible living soul. The system has no such thing. We must not allow the system to exploit us." - Haruki Murakami
"bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!." - James Joyce
"I know more than I can express in words, and the little I can express would not have been expressed, had I not known more." - Vladimir Nabokov
This is what I was hoping somebody with a little more information would touch on
I have also heard Grans kick units werent the best.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
He scares me some too
I wish he took care of the ball better on punt and kick returns.
by Dauntless12 on Feb 11, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
part of the high risk/high reward
if he makes some big runs, he will also have a couple that lose yardage or lose a fumble fighting for extra yards. that paradigm retains its usefulness if he has more positive than negative plays. his first year was better than last year, but he is still above breaking even on reward/cost.
good punt returner, can be great at times. at corner, as bud said, he is either excellent or awful, leaving him as average at the moment.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I agree w/ Scalpemall,
the point is, I believe, is that G-5 is one of the most exciting punt returners in the country and can electrify the home-folks. It doesn’t matter how good a corner he is, or even if he is a starter at any positon other than PR. The G-5 chant is suggested for punt returns only, although I could see it occurring spontaneously as well were he to pull a pick-6!
Biggest 2011 sleeper recruit...
Jacob Coker.
CP-7 to 49ers would be very cool. As I live in NW Washington it would give me a convenient excuse to do a long weekend in SF.
No combat uniforms…Please!
I really really like Coker.
That 7 on 7 camp promo video was nasty. Those 60+ yarders were pretty. I know its a hype video for the guy but he looked good.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
Like you both
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
My opinion
Like the five finger idea. It isn’t a gesture to Greg so much as it is a gesture to a good player wearing the number five. If we had someone as electrifying as Greg returning punts wearing the number four I’d hold four up for him.
That being said, the chant? NO. No chant. No player is deserving of their own chant unless they’re a once in a generation player. Greg is an okay corner and not a very good kickoff guy.
I like the idea of the five finger thing because I want to get the crowd involved. I’ve been to many FSU games, but of the ones I’ve been too, I can only really remember the ones from about 2003 on (I’m 17). We’ve had lackluster fan support unless its at big rivals. The crowd needs to be pumped up when we play the UNCs, the Marylands, the NC States, and the Virginias. We have nice showing against UF and Miami, but that is a given. The crowd needs to have a resurgence and TAKE DOAK BACK. If we get loud at home maybe we squeak by those marginal teams in games we would have lost in recent years. Next year I’ll be attending FSU as a freshman, and I want to see a big crowd at every game.
I’m saying O’Leary as the impact guy. I’ve said it for a long time. Nick O’Leary will have a huge freshman season. My sleeper guys are Tyler Hunter, Terrance Smith, and Devonta Freeman (can’t pick one).
I'm confused....
You like the visual support.(which is useless at times because during the game players are LOOKING at the play moreso than the stands) And you want Doak to rock during home games…… but you don’t like the idea of people getting out of their seat and making noise?(Which players HEAR and therefore can feel the impact of while LOOKING at/participating in the play)
Not trying to be a jerk, just very confused…….
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
G5 Chant would be ROCKING!!!!
Isn’t Jimbo calling for more support?? Don’t we all always complain about the Doak not rocking enough?? So whats the problem FSU nation??? A G5 chant would be insane on punt returns! Punters don’t want to kick to him anyways, and football is what 80 percent mental!? Cmon Debbie Downers and people that don’t know how to get things POPPIN, G5 is a good corner, straight kick return man, but an awesome punt returner! I mean can we get up for punts, can the fans put some fear into the opponents, can we stop being so damn sadity and put 5 fingers up and scream G…….5………G………5! Or what?? A player has to be a two time All-American to get a chant?? Its a chant to get everyone fans and players hype! Its not the same as retiring someone’s jersey. Its Florida State football dammit get excited!!!
by Kevin Lee on Feb 10, 2011 8:31 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
A bit messy, but i like your style Mr. Lee. Rec'd
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
You sold me. KEVIN........LEE.......KEVIN.........LEE!
Rec’d. Well made point.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 11, 2011 2:46 AM EST up reply actions
The comment above should have been a reply to you Kevin Lee.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
by Chief Pit Bull on Feb 11, 2011 2:49 AM EST up reply actions
recd
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 5:15 AM EST up reply actions
I like the G.....5, G......5
If the band was in it we could chant like it was a sacrifice to the gods.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 5:19 AM EST up reply actions
What if you had one side of the stadium shouting -G!
Followed by the other side shouting – Five!
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
gatornation - ungracious in victory, arrogant in defeat
by HaveNoleOption on Feb 11, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
That's what i was thinking......
Anyone who thinks we shoudn’t do this, I’ll have to agree to disagree with.
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
Los takes the starting job from Terrance Parks by week 3
The JUCOS of course but I really think Tank explodes with all the double teaming that Jenkins or Jaccobi may face. Nick expands our offense even more, Terrance Smith kills on special teams. And I think Devonta Freeman is going to be special(background story, sheer determination to be great, and early enrolle). He may only see 40 carries the whole year, but I know he will average at least 6 yards a pop, thats good for second and short.
I am really on the Freeman train.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 10, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
2 things:
I agree with any idea that gets the fans and players fired up. Football players feed off emotion, each other, their coaches, and the crowd! We (the fans) can only control the latter. Rock that stadium every chance you get, by some getting loud, other fans jump in and soon you have something….the 12th man!
Secondly, Not to be a downer but a lot of FSU players and potential recruits read these comments, everyone should consider that when posting anything. Think how it may be perceived and impact the team we all love. I hate to see anyone disparaging any of our players.
Seminole football is not a passion it is an obsession for the die-hards!
by LaxNole on Feb 10, 2011 10:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe its because of the amount of users
But this site is the first I have ever read soooooo many negative comments. Almost seems like a gator at the keyboard sometimes.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Never apart of warchant so you could very well be right.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
its not negativity
its the opposite of homerism: honest evaluation. your team isnt perfect, and sometimes you have to criticize your own if you want to be honest with yourself. i dont see any negative comments about anybody in this thread. maybe you are confusing “greg isnt at a high enough level to deserve his own chant” with “greg sucks, why would i cheer for him”. the two are very different.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
If you call the negatives honestly, it makes the positives THAT much sweeter.
Just my two pennies.
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
I never said anything about the negativity in this thread. I mean over the past two years I have been apart of this site.
I am all for honest evaluation. I am also for relaying that evaluation in a well mannered form. Not flaming any particular coach or player.
Like someone said, its not just alumni and fans that frequent this site. There are potential recruits that visit these boards. Just like me doing anything to help Greg or any one of them out during a play. I wouldnt want to do anything that might give the football team (or school for that matter) a bad name.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Just an "honest evaluation"
Not saying anything bad about the site. I dont share the same views as the owner of this site but I have never in my life found more information about the Seminole football team. Hence why its been my start page since I found it. (didnt want to come off as not appreciative)
p.s. anyone know how to change the picture of the shortcut on the iphone screen? comes up as a garnet star with white background when i make a shortcut.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
I think the more important thing about any fan forum like TN
is less, the prevailing rhetoric, whether its overly optimistic (most of them), overly pessimistic , or rational (TN); but the most important aspect is the ability to communicate. And I think TN is perhaps the best. Which is almost weird because its free – you’d figure you might get a bunch of flamers who have nothing to lose – but rather, it is one of the most informed and conversation oriented boards I’ve been on (not that I’ve been on all) which to me is the most important aspect.
There is plenty of rational dissension, as long as there is a reasonable thought process behind it.
"bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!." - James Joyce
"Literature was not born the day when a boy crying "wolf, wolf" came running out of the Neanderthal valley with a big gray wolf at his heels; literature was born on the day when a boy came crying "wolf, wolf" and there was no wolf behind him." - Vladimir Nabokov
This is more of
a information board about FSU. Number crunching, recruiting and such. Sure everyones a fan, but this isnt the paint yourself in garnet and gold and run up and down the stadium steps with your hair on fire fansite.
Yes!!
LaxNole, Thanks for pointing this out.
Off hand I can’t think of a single time when LESS cheering and support rather than MORE is helpful to the team we love.
This is NOT rocket science guys.
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
I like the 5 in the air but not a chant to go with it.
Impact guys will be Carradine, Wilder, O’Leary, and Karlos.
Sleeper is Derrick Mitchell.
DE is the position of need in 2012.
No on Barry Sanders, Jr. Yes on Mario Edwards, Jr.
yea i think spirit fingers are more intimidating than decibels too
by Bravo! on Feb 11, 2011 12:54 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Ha! rec'd.
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
2011 Recruiting:
Impact freshmen: First, both JUCOs easy, after that: one of Lovelady/Pettis. Both will be given a shot at starting C position. It will be a really big dela if one can step up and take over. Others: O’Leary will have the best shot outside the OL on O. On D, Williams could definitely get some reps and impress, but I don’t see him making a huge impact.
2012 Recruiting
DE, DE, DE, then WR
No Pro Combat, not since Jimbo = HC
"bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!." - James Joyce
"Literature was not born the day when a boy crying "wolf, wolf" came running out of the Neanderthal valley with a big gray wolf at his heels; literature was born on the day when a boy came crying "wolf, wolf" and there was no wolf behind him." - Vladimir Nabokov
1-Question. 3- Answers.
(?)Back in 2009 I think, we wore all black with black helmets. Maybe it was just black helmets. Anyway, didn’t see them this year. Thought they were petty cool.(A} 2012 Wish list Deon Bush, Mario Edwards Jr, James Winston, Marvin Bracy, and keeping the guys that are already committed.(2) What FR make an impact? Carradine, Fahrenkrug, Jernigan, Benjamin, Freeman, Wilder, O’Leary, Lovelady, Jenkins, and last but not least Los Williams (The Sand Man will be putting people to bed fosho). I think could all make an impact, in varying degrees. All get significant playing time (D) Kevin Lee sold me on the 5 fingers And G……5……chant.
When ahead never let up.When behind never give up.
there were some mock up black helmets but they were never worn in the game, it was black uni's with our traditional gold helmet, there was also a white mock uni with white helmet that was never worn
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 11, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
you're right i was thinking black on black, it was garnet uni with black helmet, and black uni with traditional helmet.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 11, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Right, Black-out vs Duke and BC, and maybe one other
but each had traditional gold helmets
"bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!." - James Joyce
"Literature was not born the day when a boy crying "wolf, wolf" came running out of the Neanderthal valley with a big gray wolf at his heels; literature was born on the day when a boy came crying "wolf, wolf" and there was no wolf behind him." - Vladimir Nabokov
Pro Combat
We wore these against Maryland in 09 when we were 5-5 and CP7 was hurt. At least that’s my recollection.
thats a lot of nole disappointments in one picture
weatherford, parker got himself kicked out when he had the chance to be the best receiver on the team, fagg was average, and rose was just a waste of talent. oh the lost years…
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
didn't say it was a good picture. lol
And that was a close game vs a really crappy Duke team.
تهنئة للشعب المصري الشجاع
<3 Black and gold helmets from the Pro Combat UNI
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Keys anyone?
I don’t know about calling out a players number or name, but in the stadium of old (orange monster) we used to pull out and rattle our keys for….. Larry Key. Don’t know if it helped but her could run.
THE LOUDEST QUIET CHAT
that i have ever been around came from playing golf. I dont know if yall are familiar with it but when we would play in a select a shot scramble format and we made a great shot or a big putt the team would always give the ssshhh noise as we were telling everyone to be quiet but watch what was coming.
I'm convinced - let's do the chant
When I first read the post, I thought it was a dumb idea because I don’t think a player who has accomplished as little as Reid should have his own chant. HOWEVAH…it’s not about reid. It’s about getting Doak rockin for a freakin punt return. It’s about keeping the fans engaged when they would normally sit back down and check their phones.
I can probably only make it to one or two games, but I’ll be chanting G…..5…..!
I think the chant is really dumb. Maybe the hand thing.
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how about "5-4-6"
if the “G5” chant doesn’t get you going…how about 5-4-6.
For those of you doubting, he was the #1 return man in the country as a freshman and the #2 return man as a soph (and nobody wanted to kick to him this year). In the kicking game there is a huge mental factor for the kicker. If you get the kicker to really think about not kicking to G5 he’s either going to kick it right to him or shank it for a net 10 yards…..I think it would be a huge bonus to our special teams. Let’s get into their kickers’ heads!
by beermongr on Feb 11, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is totally unreasonable.
For those of you doubting, he was the #1 return man in the country as a freshman and the #2 return man as a soph
It’s already been determined he is merely average. It will always be this way. Give it up.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 11, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Yep,kid's almost turrible.
"I got one too. I just got a little more brown sugar on mine."--- Big Earl
Hutch: Yeah, well, uh sure. We could... What's your sign?
Heather: Gemini.
Starsky: What uh... What do you weigh?
Heather: What does that have to do with anything?
Starsky: It has everything to do with anything and just answer the question please, ma'am.
Whatever it is. Someone needs to get a facebook page started.
Lets get on this boys and girls.
"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith
by numberonenole on Feb 11, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Good idea
However the downside is it may encourage showboating thereby fumbles by trying to do to much to appease the crowd.
We all used to stand up for Deion and the more love we showed the more he responded, which was great.
Any votes on which apposing team "Stars" will make G5's highlight real next season?
Alshon and Marcus vote for Jeff Demps and who/whatever emerges at qb for the gata.
class of 99
Hopefully someone wearing Crimson & Cream.
Don’t forget ‘Los will be patrolling the secondary sooner or later. I have a feeling he’ll be preying on skills as well.
"1,2,3,fo,5 deez heyah gatas don't take no jive"-Corrine Brown(Representative of the 3rd district of Florida, proud Gator)
I think everyone should hold up 5 fingers high, but if G5 fumbles or has negative yards then everyone should lower both sets of their two outside fingers.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
I vote no for combat and sign!
Why do we need ugly pro combat uni’s when we have the classiest and best looking uni’s in all of the land? Please no black uni’s, no pro combats, no nike purchasing tricks. Also I don’t think we need to encourage teams to not kick to G5 by throwing up gang signs. JMO!
FSU, home of the Bandit! Enough said!
if sticking a hand in the air is a gang sign
i need to stop waving to people, it might get me shivved in the mcribs
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Well...
One thing about Reid… he seems to perform better, the more pressure is on him… sort of like the Incredible Hulk, he gets stronger and more focused when under the gun. His best returns seem to be when we need them the most. He’s one of those players that seem to thrive on attention…
So…. I think doing a G5 Hand gesture would ELEVATE his return ability, and therefore I’d be for it. Not as a “reward”….but as a “Stoke”…
He’s a player that plays better when he’s “stoked”.
That’s my take at least.
I've always thought a cry of REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEID
…when they announce his name as he’s going back to return a punt would be neat. A la Todd Heap (HEEEEEEEEEAP) and Chris Cooley (COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL)
…you get the idea.
"Florida State, we're about business...Miami had that party swagger, we've got that business swagger, and Gainesville...they're left out." - Karlos Williams
or john kuhn
really funny when you hear a crowd full of people sound like they are all booing their own guy, only to realize they are saying his name. good times
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
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