Florida State Seminoles Sign Nation's Top Recruiting Class
by Bud Elliott on Feb 2, 2011 7:41 PM EST
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PrintIt's official. FSU signed the top recruiting class in the country. At the start of the season, nobody saw this coming. But considering how hot Florida State finished the 2010 recruiting season, maybe this 2011 class should have been expected. Jimbo Fisher and his staff of ace recruiters have been the best over the last thirteen months. FSU started strong and FSU never faded. Florida State had most of its excellent class locked up before February and looked to protect that haul and add another piece or two on signing day. The Seminoles did just that, adding Tim Jernigan, the second-rated defensive tackle in the country, along with some more linemen.
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| ESPN | 1 | 17 | 7 |
| 247 | 3 | 13 | 9 |
| Scout | 4 | 9 | 13 |
| Rivals | 2 | 11 | 12 |
| Does not include junior college players as not all services rate JUCOs, of which FSU signed two of the best in the country. | |||
And linemen were the theme of the 29-man class. As Jimbo Fisher said, "There is a reason they have weight classes in boxing. We are not looking for fat guys, we are looking for big players who maintain their athleticism." When Fisher took over Florida State, there were no three-hundred pounders. This year FSU will have 13. Today the 'Noles signed 12 players who are at least 6'4" and 280 pounds.
In all, FSU signed 15 offensive and defensive linemen. Granted, one will certainly end up in junior college due to grades, and another will delay enrollment until January, but 13 is a very large number of linemen. It's a number that signals just how similar Fisher and his mentor, Nick Saban, are in recruiting philosophy.
And the large number of linemen make earning the honor of #1 class all the more impressive, as recruiting ranking services often don't assign high grades to linemen because they are difficult to properly evaluate.
| TEAM | ESPN | 247 | SCOUT | RIVALS | COMPOSITE |
| FSU | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1.50 |
| BAMA | 2 | 1 | 6 | 1 | 2.50 |
| TEXAS | 5 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3.75 |
| AUBURN | 3 | 5 | 2 | 7 | 4.25 |
| USC | 4 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 4.75 |
Florida State isn't the unanimous #1 among the four services, but the 'Noles are #1 by two of the four services, and #2 in the other two. And its composite score is considerably less than that of #2 Alabama. This is far and away the best-rated class in the country.
It isn't just the highly-rated kids that make this class special. FSU jumped on two kids in Josue Matias and Tre Jackson relatively late in the game, but before teams like UF, Alabama, UGA, and Miami offered. Both players check in at 6'4" and 300 pounds and both proved themselves healthy late in the game after missing time with injury. The offers flooded in late, but FSU was at the front of the late crowd, secured visits from both, and landed both. People in the Moore center will tell you that those two guys are just as good as any of the higher-rated kids FSU signed.
This is Florida State's best class in a decade and serves notice to the rest of the college football world that FSU will soon be back and contend at the highest level. And it serves notice to the other 11 other ACC programs, who cannot hope to compete with the Seminoles talent if FSU continues to stockpile in this fashion.
And where did that talent come form? Home, sweet, home. Florida State inked 27 high school prospects. All but one of those high schoolers were from Florida or within a 275mi-radius of Tallahassee. When Fisher arrived here, he declared that FSU would attempt to fill all its needs with players from that base, and not chase national kids unless they filled a specific need.
No, this class won't bring a national title as true freshmen, but national titles are built on recruiting classes like this:
Florida State 2011 Recruiting Class
| Cornellius "Tank" Carradine Defensive End Butler Community College (Butler, KS) Enrolled in January |
Jacob Fahrenkrug Offensive Line North Dakota College Of Science Enrolled in January |
6' 5" / 250 lbs |
6' 3" / 320 lbs |
| Karlos Williams Safety Ridge Community (Orlando Area) |
Josue Matias Offensive Tackle Union City HS (New Jersey) |
6' 2" / 210 lbs |
6'5" / 300 lbs |
| Kelvin Benjamin Wide Receiver Glades Central HS (Belle Glade, FL) |
James Wilder, Jr. Running Back Plant HS (Tampa) |
6'6" / 215 lbs |
6' 2" / 220 lbs |
| Keelin Smith Defensive Back Treasure Coast (Port St. Lucie) |
Lamarcus Brutus Defensive Back Treasure Coast HS (Prt. St. Lucie) |
6'2" / 188 lbs |
6'0" /195 lbs |
| Nick O'Leary Tight End Palm Beach Dwyer HS |
Giorgio Newberry Defensive End Ft. Pierce Central (Ft. Pierce) |
6'3" / 235 lbs |
6'5"/ 250 lbs |
| Rashad Greene Wide Receiver St. Thomas Aquinas (Ft. Lauderdale) |
Bobby Hart Offensive tackle St. Thomas Aquinas (Ft. Lauderdale) |
6'0"/ 170lbs |
6' 5" / 300 lbs |
| Tim Jernigan Defensive Tackle Lake City Columbia (FL) |
Nile Lawrence-Stample Defensive Tackle Nova HS (Ft. Lauderdale) |
6'2" / 280 lbs |
6'1" / 295 lbs |
| Jacob Coker Quarterback St. Paul's (Mobile, AL) |
Ruben Carter Offensive Line Miami Jackson HS |
6'5" / 210 lbs |
6'4" / 280 lbs |
| Derrick Mitchell Defensive Line First Coast HS (Jacksonville) |
Eric Beverly Running/Fullback First Coast HS (Jacksonville) |
6'5" / 290 lbs |
5'9" / 215 lbs |
| Arrington Jenkins Linebacker Coral Park (Miami) |
Tyler Hunter Defensive Back Lowndes Co HS (Valdosta, GA) |
6'2.5" / 220 lbs |
6'0" / 200 lbs |
| Devonta Freeman Running Back Miami Central HS Enrolled in January |
Jordan Prestwood Offensive tackle Plant City HS (Tampa) Enrolled in January |
5' 9" / 200 lbs |
6' 6" / 280 lbs |
| Nick Waisome Cornerback South Lake HS (Groveland, FL) Enrolled in January |
Terrance Smith Linebacker Southwest Dekalb HS (Atlanta) Enrolled in January |
5' 9.5" / 170 lbs |
6' 4" / 220 lbs |
| Trey Pettis Offensive Line Deland HS (Deland, FL) Enrolled in January |
Sterling Lovelady Offensive Line Navarre HS (Navarre, FL) Enrolled in January |
6' 5" / 305 lbs January Enrollee |
6' 2" / 280 lbs |
| Tre Jackson Offensive Line Wayne CO HS (Jesup, GA) |
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6' 4" / 295 lbs |
Players Signed & Placed In JUCO
- Terry Bell, Defensive Tackle, Lakeland Tenoroc HS
Players Who Accepted Deferred Enrollment
- Austin Barron, OL, St. Thomas Aquinas. Barron is 6'3" 280 and will look at add weight and enroll in Spring. He is an interior offensive lineman. Barron will be on scholarship, but there just isn't any reason to start his eligibility clock until January.
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Here's the thing
I liked last year’s class. This one blows my mind.
I love the Offensive line pickups.
i love the Defensive back pickups.
Tightend check!
DE check
LB check
RB’s Athletes, QB – we got it all!
And it doesn’t look like it’s going to stop;
2012 is already looking pretty sweet.
Did anyone else hear Jimbo
say Benjamin was 6’5" 242 lbs? Granted the kid is probably out of shape some from not play but thats a big receiver, Andre Johnson big. Not comparing him just yet but he could possibly play at 225-230.
Doubt out of shape,
tall lanky type. Probably in the 230’s.
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Benjamin is 6'6 240
Benjamin is far from out of shape. He work out everything in the weight room..I don’t know where you guys get your fact from..When everyone was saying he 210 i was like they must have never seen KB before just read what other people write about him. No one won’t to stand in front of him right now
by Seminoles561 on Feb 3, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
wasn't stating fact
just speculation on his part because Kelvin is done with high school football. While Kelvin probably has followed the coaches advice to maintain his workouts, there are plenty of recruits that come in every year to schools having slacked off after their senior season and have to play catch up.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 3, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not. Jimbo just flat out makes these weights up. It’s an inside joke with the media.
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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Seriously?
Is he trying to imitate Caroline Wozniacki?
Yes. His description of Benjamin makes him bigger and faster than Andre Johnson. Same with Jernigan, Jenkins, etc.
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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So that "one voice" thing
With all the information coming from Jimbo. That’s not just rhetoric. It’s all coming from his mind, without interference from the real world. Got it.
Benjamin
No Benjamin is actually that size. You have to see him now 2 years ago he was real lanky skinny kid. But he have grown and still have the same speed. His stride is very long and make up ground quick. Not comparing him to Andre Johnson. He just don’t have that same work ethic as Greg Dent from GC but if he ever go 100% every play, every game he will be unstoppable i promise you that.
If he is 242 he doesn’t run a 4.5. He never ran a 4.5
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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Benjamin
Ok bud I promise you will see when he get up to tally…Just realize i told you this in advance. Kid only problem is he don’t go hard enough all the time..This is one of the most amazing talent we had. He ran the 100 meter before he quit the track team
That would be something to have an Usain Bolt Jr on the team that can catch.
FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
"Winning when playing poorly is the kiss of the death." - Nick Saban
Look, he wasn’t that fast to begin with, and if he has gained 15 lbs he definitely isn’t running a 4.5
I like him a lot and think he will do very well here if he works hard, but you’re saying he’d currently be the most impressive receiver in the world (including the NFL), and he is simply not.
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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Unless that "4.5" is handtimed and he's actually closer to 4.7 or 4.8
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Not quite--Kelvin Benjamin is 3 years older then Calvin Johnson
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by DRusso97 on Feb 4, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Interesting,
considering at the start of the interview, she joked that Jimbo could name all the recruits.
my favorite part was that Jimbo straight-face answered "what's next"
and said “Start on next year!” like he hasn’t been building a 2012 board since 2009.
Nobody's talking about Terrance Smith!!!
Seems like the forgotten recruit of this class. He’s a beast
I'm with you frenzy. I think so too.
I am addicted to Tomahawk Nation
by pasadenanole22 on Feb 2, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
No way.
He was our best DT till Timmah showed up. I think Hunter is the forgotton man in this class.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
what was rivals smoking this year?...i think they were out to lunch
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
they were actually at different websites
from what I understand…
That is to say the guys they had that were good at evaluating Florida talent went else where.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry, Terrance Smith's footage never impressed me
Every highlight I’ve seen of him has been rushing the QB. I want to see him taking the right angles or dropping back into coverage before giving him recognition as top quality.
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Room will come
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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As my last contribution to this evening's shenanigans,
I’m booking you for 3rd degree (involuntary) homonym rape.
That IS what she said...
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
that's the spirit.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
I did the math once.
we took more this class than I expected (26 was my original guestimate). A lot of RS JRs/4th year players you can consider a graduating. We’ll see some transfers. We have too many RBs, too many DEs, and too many TEs
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
Here's a off-the-top-of-my-head list post-2011
We have too many RBs, too many DEs, and too many TEs
RB – JT38, Ty Jones, Smiley
DE – Tosh Stevens
TE – Reiliford, Little
That’s just a start. More will come from OL, DB, WR, DT (I think in that order)
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JT38 and Ty Jones are both seniors so they are gone regardless
Agree on Smiley and Stevens (despite our eventual need for DE help, he’s too old to help in 2013, the year we’ll need help, send him packing). Little I agree on (isn’t he a senior this season? But Reliford is a senior this year, no need to cut him either.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I included the seniors on purpose, because they are gone anyway.
There will be many more from what I listed. I don’t think Cam Erving lasts anymore….
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Jernigan was probably the end of him
I expect our rotation this year to include Cummings and Jernigan… Possibly Niles if someone gets hurt but I’d rather he get a year to learn the position.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I agree, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Jernigan leapfrog Cummings by the end of 2011 to become the 4th DT
NLS might see snaps too, depending on blowouts. The staff will likely wait until December to decide on his RS status—possible he gets in vs scrub teams week 1/2 then shuts it down. Mitchell shirts.
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By managing our team like a top program-and culling people relentlessly.
If we have juniors and seniors who don’t have a shot to see the field, it helps neither the player nor the program to keep them around. Those schollies could be used to fill more pressing needs with freshmen and the occasional JUCO standout.
Likewise, it is far better for a player who just can’t make it here to get a chance to catch an NFL scout’s eye on the field somewhere else.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
I'm under the impression
That the type of player we cut is pretty much just playing for the scholarship, and not an NFL-prospect
More often than not, this is true, yes.
We’re becoming a top program. Top programs cut players who have no shot at playing in order to make room for the top-quality kids who do.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
anyone have video of Timmy's actual announcement?
I’ve found the coaches watching his announcement and his post-hat interview.
Man it feels good to steal a gator.
http://www.seminoles.com/allaccess/?media=225339
one of the videos there
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
F-L-O-R-I-D-A S-T-A-T-E FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA STATE FLORIDA STATE WHOOOOOOOO
FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Thanks for leaving out the "what what"
by Gilchrest on Feb 2, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
What? What?
Speak up, I’m (apparently) getting old.
Awww. Poor baby!
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 3, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Sooooo ummmm
what if all these kids pan out. How do you deal with attrition when there is no dead weight?
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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by Bud Elliott on Feb 2, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
there will be always attrition
If everyone pans out, then there will be some quality players who can’t see the field and they’ll transfer. Like USC at the height of their run under Carroll had a bunch of five stars transfer out.
If they all pan out
Some will jump at the first opportunity to the NFL. Then you get your space back
Amazing class!!
Jimbo along with his staff are going to be a force on the recruiting trail for many years to come!! Great day to be a Nole!!
Yes, in January
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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I don’t understand why he won’t be able to work out with the team. If he’s paying his own way to school, he should be able to right? He could REALLY use some time with Vic
by garnetandgold on Feb 2, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Were you at all surprised at how high Trickett was on
Tre Jackson? He said he thought Jackson had “NFL written all over him”, and he really wasnt that highly rated was he? I mean he was really late on our recruiting radar. I tend to trust Trick when it comes to OL talent evaluation so that would be a real bonus if he was that caliber.
by cerebralfish on Feb 4, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not. Once I watched the film I saw that he could be an elite OG under Trickett....
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after listening to fisher's presser i'm even more excited about o'leary and carradine than i was before
he freaking gushed over these guys. odds that carradine can bring a nick fairley type presence to our dline (i know he plays a different position—i’m talking from a disruption standpoint)?
by nole country for old men on Feb 2, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions
just finished reading the commitment article on terrance smith
are y’all still standing by the statement that he’s the best of the players that were committed at the time? or have things changed after another season of evaluation. there’s some big time players at the bottom of the commitment article.
by nole country for old men on Feb 2, 2011 8:43 PM EST reply actions
Steward and Jernigan
The Steward thing sucks, bottom line. I’ll root for him, but not his team. Hope he is successful.
Then Jernigan comes on and by the way he was talking he was Nole all the way. Then I realized that we got arguably the best DT prospect in the class and how loaded we are at LB. Steward to Clemson doesn’t hurt. Very excited about Jernigan.
I wish Steward
The best of luck but he is a rival now. I want to see JWJ truck on his way to the end zone during a blowout
by nole your enemy on Feb 2, 2011 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm a jerk and don't wish him the best of luck.
for the record though I am NOT wishing an injury or anything shady upon him.
I'm with you, he's the enemy now.
I hope we run him over and crush his dreams of ever sniffing an ACC championship game. I want to see him regret today’s decision.
by seminoleballer on Feb 3, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
LOL
Yes, I’d like him to be envious in a few years: “That coulda been me winning all those championships.”
I totally agree
I hope all that elite talent goes to waste at a floundering CU program that loses its head coach after next year. I honestly think it was a bad decision and it looked as though he regretted it while he was making it. I will have much more fun watching him in coverage vs Nick O’leary than getting blasted by JWJ. LOL!
by cerebralfish on Feb 4, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
TS is not a Nole, so it doesn't matter anymore.
I’m sure he did the right thing for himself. No school is going to get everyone on their wish list. I don’t care who lines up for Clemson. FSU just needs to beat the living hell out of them. And they will, cuz they’re going to be more stacked than Kim Kardashian!
by Dangerous Dave! on Feb 2, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm happy his mom didn't impose her will on him
and let him go where he wanted to go…
by garnetandgold on Feb 2, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
It's time for Jimbo to take one for the team and start Jimboning some mommas into shape.
by lawdy15 on Feb 2, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You mean "Bowdening" some mommas. Jimbo learned it from the best.
Gripper
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Jimbo was under Bowden during some of Bowden's worst years here (recruiting wise)
I think the bright spots in THOSE classes were done more by Jimbo than Bowden.
Not to take anything away from what Bowden accomplished during his career here, though.
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I was just saying that Bowden was known for befriending the mommas...
D Brooks recruiting story is a classic example.
I read a recruiting expert say that Jimbo’s recruiting is a mix of Bowden and Saban styles….that sounds pretty impressive.
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Even more painful for his family.
Think mostly they are worried about how far away he is going to school. Much easier to get to Tally. Seemed like a close knit group and they all, even Tony, looked disappointed in the announcement. His little brother and mom both looked like they were going to cry-not happy tears. Strangest announcement ever.
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Good way to put it
strangest announcement ever. When he stood up and hugged his mom for like 30 seconds it seems clear, in retrospect. As it was happening I was thinking to myself, dammit, Clemson. When he announced, everyone was excited by Tony, his mom, and his brother.
I think he wants to be in Clemson but hates to disappoint his family.
Exactly
That hug reminded me of when my mom wouldn’t let my brother go before he married his now ex-wife because she knew it was a mistake but couldn’t stop him and let him make his own decision. She did the right thing for TS, nothing but respect for that family.
by TampaLawNole on Feb 2, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Harsh,dude.
Very harsh.
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by Scalpemall on Feb 2, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ever since McDaniel...
leveled Ponder I’ve held a grudge against Clemson. Nursed along by many Clemson fans reveling in that moment (I’ve seen it as an avatar image). I paint in broad strokes.
Meh.
See the discussion a few weeks ago about Noles’ reactions to the Lattimore hit (still referenced above, I believe).
yeah clean play though. Mostly Ponder's fault.
I kinda like re-watching Reid’s hit on Lattimore ya know?
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Believe me,I've hated Clemson since i was a small boy,so i hear ya......
But I cant hate TS.
Oh well, different strokes I guess.
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
Ah,i hear ya'.
Adds shock value in a somewhat humorous way.
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
question is
who were the big boys hugging timmy jernigan after announcement?
by garnetandgold on Feb 2, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Here's to hoping he goes 0-4 against us.
With 2 of those loses being humiliating defeats in Doak on national TV.
That's a great trade IMO
Nothing against Steward, but it all starts up front on D and Jernigan is a beast.
Yeah, Steward woulda been very cool
But if I had to choose, I’d take the DT Jernigan this year. We need depth on the DL; LBs are good for now.
The most appropriate sentence for Steward would be to watch Arrington Jenkins win 4 ACC Championships & at least 1 BCS NC........and then get drafted higher then him.
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by DRusso97 on Feb 3, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
All ACC LBs
2012…..CJ7, Luc, T22
2013…..Jenkins, Luc, T22
No room for TS.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
3 and done, IMO.
FSU, the 2010 Florida and South Carolina state champs.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I think hes good enough
But FSU is gonna be PrimeTime. I would stick around, plus with all of this rookie-cap talk, we might see players stick it out.
Well, if the NFL landscape changes significantly....sure.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 2:27 AM EST up reply actions
kid is nearly NFL body now
and won’t have to dick around for a real coach to show up unlike otherfsulbsthatshouldhavegoneprobynow.
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You don't mean
nigelstiffasaboardbutfastasacheetah250lbswillknockthefoutofsomebodyandwhiffthenext5timesbradham, do you?
FSU, the 2010 Florida and South Carolina state champs.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 2:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes I do in fact.
And I blame the previous weight program for that. First thing, Jimbo takes over, brings in Stoops and he loses 10 lbs and looks much better.
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I know, just having a little fun.
Can’t we just get him in a yoga class and out of the weight room?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 2:32 AM EST up reply actions
Funny thing is
I heard he has been taking yoga classes ever since the new staff came in to gain flexibility.
"When in doubt - SPEAR IT"
Coach Coley
I personally think the best solution is move him to the middle where his stiffness is less of a hindrance.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
sure thing.
but its SCAR/CLEM at this point. I think we know which we hope gets him
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I REEEEEAAALLLY
hope he doesn’t go to Clemson. I’d hate to have to deal with him for 4 years…or probably 3.
I would personally
hire a private detective to follow Dabo, every minute of his life.
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If he gets on campus, who knows.
Heck, Clempsun stole Steward from us! Don’t you think us taking a stud from USCe is more realistic?
by arrdub on Feb 2, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Screw it, why not?
Play it again, Dogrel!
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
rec'd
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
Dammit, I thought this would be over come NSD, but it Never. Freakin. Ends!
You did this to me, didn’t you God?
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Feb 2, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Theeere it is.
Rec’d
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
Yes because he is that good, not because of our chances.
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Wasn't going to buy into this thread...
but, since you responded, has there been any other corroboration that he might visit?
There are rumblings. Not going to bug the people who would know on tonight. People over there had a long day
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'11: Conference Champions?
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Can we send some coeds with signs
“Clowney: Come visit Tallahassee!”
We're down on our knees!
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Feb 2, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hah! nice!
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
Only if you suffer with it in silence
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Actually that might be the ideal woman.
proud graduate of the Uncle Rico Quarterback Camp
by PeachTreeNole on Feb 3, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
More cursing cruel Fate at this point
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Feb 2, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Don't know who it is, but it's got a little similarity.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
You see, Dogrel,
Clowney is on to you…. he’s trying to see how many pics you got. You keep bringin’ ‘em ’til Feb 14, and he’ll stretch it out until August. I think he goes by the name “awkwardvibration” around here.
I see where you're going. Since there was 0% chance before and a 1% chance now...
If he delays further, it must be because he likes the clowns and it’s convincing him to come here. Thus, the more clowns, the more chance for Clowney.
In that case…
Let the good work go on!
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Crud, I just realized I botched that joke.
No offense intended towards Mr. Vibration. I was talking about that other, overly optimistic guy that caught so much crap from the mods…. Oh well.
link?
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Jimbo quoted
saying Tank runs a 4.5 at 270 pounds. This true?
no way
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Florida State also signed a few junior college players who, because of their heightened maturity, could also see playing time early. Defensive end Cornellius Carradine “has a chance to be really special,” Fisher said.
“I think he can change the game, I really do,” Fisher said. “He’s got some unbelievable athletic ability and size. He’s got a 7-foot wing span and runs 4.5 at 270 pounds. He’s special.”
yeah.
he says nice things about his players. Likes to add weight too…
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Maybe.
He probably runs a 4.6-4.7 at like 250-260
Weight is more
believable. Could be close to 270.
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Why's it so hard to nail down accurate weight in college ball?
Significant growth period, or what?
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
cleats/spike size when
weighing in. ha, I have no idea.
Have to know, when these big guys practice they can literally lose 10 lbs or even more by the time practice is over. Big fluctuations.
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I forgot about that.
I remember hearing something awhile back regarding Jajuan Harley drinking an obscene amount of Powerade or something.
Good point.
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
Usually the player just lists or tells someone his weight
Of course they wanna add some weight and make them seem bigger.
But it's amusing when it gets really specific like two hundred forty TWO lbs on Benjamin.
MIght as well tell us if that’s before or after his morning visit to the throne.
That's incredibly annoying that they don't actually weigh them.Should establish a pre-workout base weight once a month for OCD fans like me.;)
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
I'm sure the strenght and conditioning
coaches know exactly how much their players weigh. Pre and post throne.
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Well i want those weights! ;)
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
Yeah,can't forget those pads.
"Whenever someone smiles, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life"---- Dwight K. Schrute III
A nice "surprise"
I remember lurking through this site last year and feeling remarkably good about the 2010 class FSU landed. I think it might have been Bud who cautioned us that due to the needs of the 2011 class (the big uglies), we should brace ourselves for a good, but not likely highly rated class because linemen traditionally don’t get the 5 and 4 stars like the so-called skilled positions. Wow, we got them on both sides of the line along with other needs and landed one hell of a class. CJF sure is making up for the lost decade in one hell of a hurry.
by NorthPortNole on Feb 2, 2011 9:13 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
"CJF sure is making up for the lost decade in one hell of a hurry."
Best line of the day! (Should be green soon) Used to be that we would land these recruits and let them run free on the field. Now, we know the process and program will enhance and improve upon what God gave them and then God help whomever lines up against them. Come on September, get here soon!
Go Noles!
Scalp'em
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by CSI Nole on Feb 2, 2011 9:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions 9 recs
tosh.o
Totally off subject, but I can’t shake the funny image last night of Daniel Tosh chucking the sword (or was it a spear?) at Nick Saban’s dart board photo. Yeah, he scored a head shot!
by NorthPortNole on Feb 2, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have a clip of it?
And I see he makes fun of Saban/Alabama quite a bit. What’s the reasoning?
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http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2011/02/nick-saban-takes-sword-to-the-face-on-tosh-0/
he is a huge dolphins fan.
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I see.
I did a Wikipedia search and saw he went to UCF. Figured maybe he was an Auburn grad prior to reading that. If it mentioned his beef against Saban I skipped over it.
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He went to Astronaught High in Titusville
Same school as Darious Cummings.
he's pissed at Saban b/c of the way he left the fish
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"We'll win games with talent, we'll win championships with character." Jimbo Fisher
28 player signing limit?
Article says that is an NCAA limit – isn’t that merely an SEC limit?
they dont care
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I actually like him
He always says whats on his mind, no sugar coating involved. Although I hate when he pulls players for fumbling and such
my god I hope you are kidding.
Lane kiffen may be the worst person ever associated with NCAA football.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nope, I actually like him.
I watched them all year(My father is a huge SC fan). I think he’s what they needed, the complete opposite if Pete. He may rub people the wrong way but he will take the blame for his mistakes. I watched him say that at the end of the year that he made a huge mistake for not playing Bradford more this year and he thinks they could have won more games. He’s really not that bad
i dont mind swagger, but i just think he is dirty..
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
that's the mistakes he admitted to?
bwahahahahhaa. Ok…
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I don't trust him.
I will be at USC this month and will take a shower after I visit due to the rotten vibe I get from being anywhere near Lane Kiffen.
I am addicted to Tomahawk Nation
by pasadenanole22 on Feb 3, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
should be called the
Ol Miss recruiting cap rule.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
You have that backwards.
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correct, it was Ol Miss that got the NCAA involved.
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Hasn't the NCAA restricted it to 25 for quite some time?
Nutt signed like 39 players a few years ago and that’s when the SEC made it 28. But they only did that for “show.” There are tons of loopholes to get 30+ still at times.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
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I thought the older ncaa rule was no more than 25 new schollies by august or so
and the sec has had a rule that says no more than 28 NLI’s, more or less, ie, cut down on oversigning freshmen that won’t qualify.
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My Noles are #1 right now. Good enough excuse for me to go shopping for new shoes and dresses. Made myself an amazing dinner. Blared some Duffy. Now, I’m relaxing with some wine and basking in the glow of kicking the crap out of the Gators and Canes. It’s a great day to be a Seminole!
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 2, 2011 9:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Who Ok'd
Drusso’s screen name change?
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
No one....D.Russo does as he pleases around here.
At some point in the near future, this will cease to be “TN”, and will instead become:
“Italians are awesome. Oh, and FSU rocks too”
Bow down…..
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be easy with all his shopping for shoes and dresses, listening to duffy, and sipping on wine stuff.
This is a place for man talk
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this*
"We have to start over. We have to develop our own identity, our own chemistry, our own unity, our own vision of where we want to go...This is just the beginning. Because remember one thing – I tell you all the time: Boys do what they want to do. Champions do what they’ve got to do. " CJF
Agreed.
To get offers from FSU, Miami, UF, and Bama late are huge. Even though this class is #1 it’s still under-rated.
Rivals certainly screwed up.
Been said before but can’t be said enough.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ive always wondered how the number process works
Who gets first pick on single digits? Coaches ever make promises on certain #s? Great work today guys..couldn’t be happier FSU and Bammer 1 AND 2.
What?
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
I think
he means how do they decide which recruit gets which jersey #
Ya
Coaches choose or recruits. Dent and Haggins ended up with #35 36 outta necessity. Do they get to change first? Price is the only guy in the 30s playin WR I can remember.
by Mannieblunts on Feb 2, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure coaches try to
accommodate players wishes. Positions for the most part have number ranges like they are in the NFL.
1-9 Quarterbacks and Kickers
10-19 Quarterbacks, Receivers, Tight Ends, and Kickers
20-49 Running Backs and Defensive Backs
50-59 Centers and Linebackers
60-79 Defensive Linemen and Offensive Linemen
80-89 Receivers and Tight Ends (or 40-49 if those ranges are taken)
90-99 Defensive Linemen and Linebackers
But NCAA rules do not restrict numbers to positions, more of a guideline. Players can have the same number on an NCAA team as long as they aren’t on the field at the same time. FSU had that this past year. UF had a defensive tackle wearing number 3.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
UF *ALSO* had a RB wear an imprint of Moody's cleat on his chest....
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by DRusso97 on Feb 3, 2011 3:52 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
College doesn't really stick to this at all
Other than for linemen.
LBs DBs RBs QBs WRs all look to wear the 0-20 #s a lot.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I was kind of surprised that Jimbo didn't try to get Steward #34
He may not have gone all in, or he may not want to make deals like the Ernie Sims one.
Jimbo's War Party
I didn’t make it home in time to sign up and watch it, but 2 questions for anyone who did. A) was the $5 worth it? and B) Is it going to be available on replay? Asking because I don’t want to put down the money and then find out it’s not available.
thanks.
it is not available in archive yet
i thought it was worth the five bucks
by garnetandgold on Feb 2, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure
if it’ll be on replay, I don’t see anything on there about it. Just says “Premium.” I think it was worth it from my perspective – got to hear the position coaches’ thoughts on their recruits, and some of them were pretty funny guys. Trickett’s hilarious, as is Greg Hudson. Coach Coley only had 1 guy to talk about (O’Leary) but he was definitely turned up to 11… but then, when is he not. Guy has coffee in his veins.
Deckerhoff was annoying as hell, as usual. Talks (shouts) too loud and looks like he’s always on the verge of having a stroke. Wouldn’t mind seeing him retired soon.
"Yes, we won a national championship." — Fisher on if he had ever had a top ranked class before.
yeah
massive amounts of booze have can have that effect on a guy…
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
seriously I think he was really drunk
he couldn’t stop talking about how hot the coaches wives are…
Trickett’s stand-up is worth the five bucks
by garnetandgold on Feb 2, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, really miss Trickett
interviews. His are always worth the price.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Deckerhoff was tanked
Any moment I was expecting him to take it too far with the comments about the wives and end up getting himself fired. That wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world IMO, is it too much to ask that you stay sober when doing your job?
what, The Deckmeister is awesome forever.
FSU fans are spoiled to have him call the games.
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
I have never understood the Deckerhoff hate.
I grew up with him it’ll be a sad day when he’s not calling our games.
The Funk Phenomenon.
Ab. So. Lute. Lee.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
Me, too
Though I haven’t heard him call games for a while now. Maybe he’s slipping? Or, maybe I was too young to notice any problems?
Deckerhoff is the greatest "Hoff" going.
The dude is FSU’s version of Bob Ucker (sp). His alcohol laced play by play is music to my ears.
by Blue Horseshoe on Feb 3, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions
Basically sums it up.
He gets a LOT of stuff wrong these days. And the quick play by play have mostly just turned into a bunch of mumbling….
No hate from me. It will be a sad day when he is gone, but can’t deny, he likey the booze.
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Not at all.
I think he’s fairly horrible at calling games. Seemingly a good personality and obviously a good “voice”. Drunkerhoff
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all the way to 7 on rivals.
Can’t believe one 5 star caused that big of drop.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Did Cyrus Kouandjio de-commit?
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 2, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
He is in limbo and never sent Auburn his LOI. He is still trying to choose AU/Bama/New Mexico. Who knows where he ends up
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Here is article
Cyrus Kouandjio sat in front of a microphone Wednesday morning and told a national television audience he was going to play football at Auburn.
Shortly after, however, he couldn’t put pen to paper to finalize his national letter of intent. So while the No. 3 player in the ESPNU 150 from Hyattsville (Md.) DeMatha Catholic announced he was going to sign with Auburn live on ESPNU’’s Signing Day special, the fax machine at Auburn never got a confirmation.
His coach said later Wednesday afternoon that he had left school to “figure things out.”
“Cyrus told me after the press conference that he was not 100 percent sure of his decision to sign with Auburn,” DeMatha coach Bill McGregor said.
“I told him he doesn’t have to please anyone with his decision, not his family, not his friends, not me. This decision is his and his only. I told him what makes him happy, makes me happy,” McGregor said.
McGregor also said he told Kouandjio he needed to take his time to make sure he makes the decision he is happy with. Alabama, Auburn and New Mexico are still under consideration, the coach said.
On Wednesday evening, Kouandjio posted on his Facebook page that he needs space to come up with a final decision.
“Not completely sure,” he wrote. “I just wanna be around the family for a while and just wait.”
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
I'm sorry, but something tell$ me he is going to be at New Mexico.
Gotta be one hell of a bidding war going on between them and Auburn
by fsucj2431 on Feb 2, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i read a while ago
a former coach (i believe) works there…
by newdynastynole on Feb 3, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
i think this is the article i was referring..
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=5915704
its not his former coach, but someone from the same area (dc)
by newdynastynole on Feb 3, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
If a transcendent QB costs $200,000 for *1* season, how much does the #1 OL recruit cost for 3-4 years??
#Allegedly
In related news…..what is the GDP of New Mexico?
(the state, not the university)
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I can totally understand that you might have a hard time choosing between Bama and Auburn, but NEW MEXICO? They haven’t been good in like, ever. Something fishy is going on there.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 2, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
They got a recruit from FSU last year with some really strange business gonig on.
Ridiculousness. Calvin Smith ref above.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
I do remember that, and then rumors of his dad getting a job. I’m no expert on NCAA rules (I don’t think anyone is, because some of them don’t exist yet), but how is that not a violation? And how is it not a violation for a university to have a licensing deal with someone’s dad, a la Taylor Martinez and Nebraska?
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 2, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Proof?
Just like how I have to dance around Clemson purchasing Steward in tomorrow’s practice.
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
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all i can say that no one looked happy when he announced Clemson...hope he does well...because he won't be getting any rings...
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
ding
ding
ding
(ominous bell ringing, movie style)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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but hey on a brighter note...T Jernigan seems to be a pretty stand up guy, really impressed with him.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely.
Such a stark contrast between his rationale for choosing FSU – staying close to family, community, being a role model – and TS’s. And then we see these insane quotes from TS saying how FSU will always be his favorite team???
Sometimes kids are put in some tough spots...
Situations as much we’d like to see it aren’t always “their choice” in the kids minds
Once the check clears not much you can do
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Yeah, I follow.
It’s just the way things are.
I blame the NCAA for making all of this go under the table, instead of compensating these kids for what they’re worth – all in the name of “fairness.”
You don't follow me.
I’m a free market kind of guy. Let whoever wants to pay them whatever they want to pay them.
If I’m a really talented artist, and FSU is recruiting me to the fine arts dept., and a local patron wants to commission me for $1M to paint a rendition of the Sistine Chapel in his back porch, there would be no problem. Why is it different for athletics?
Because...
the NCAA is hypocritical.
Actually the NCAA is going to make itself irrelevant soon if its not very careful.
Now we're synching.
Kill it. The big boys peal off and make something that’s worth a darn.
by arrdub on Feb 2, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't tell you how many times
as a music student I made very good money playing for University-sponsored events. Paid to play in the pit orchestra in musicals, paid to play for faculty Christmas parties, paid to play in pep bands, paid to play in concerts with guest artists, on and on. Thank God there’s no NCAA equivalent for music. It does seem like a massive double-standard.
Big Monkeywrench: Music doesn't have an Olympics that requires amateur competitors.
If sports didn’t have that, I don’t know if anyone would really care.
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Musical composition was an Olympic event
until halfway through the 20th century. The gold medal composition was used as the theme for that Olympics. Just a nugget of knowledge :)
need a
with those
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but the olympics don't even require amateurs
see: nba stars bringing home the gold every time.
But the NCAA hasn't changed their rules to reflect that.
Besides, people being paid for some sports and not others could run afoul of Title IX. Much less hassle to say nobody gets paid in college sports.
…and (ahem) EVERY time?
The Allan Iverson-led 2004 squad hangs their head in shame.
(Speaking of which, how many NBA and Olympic titles does Iverson have? Hmm…must be something to that “practice” thing after all.)
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Don't get me started on Title IX.
We’re talking about dumping the NCAA,? Title IX needs to go 5x faster than the NCAA, anyway.
Listen, this is better for FSU as currently constructed
So I’m fine with it.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Agree here.
FSU doesn’t have the $$$ to compete if teams can openly pay whatever they want for talent.
Can I be on Team Gold??
And that's precisely the reason this whack-job monopoly system continues to exist.
The little guys in a tizzy because they can’t compete, considerations for athletes and quality of play be damned.
That would be bad for FSU
We don’t have the money to pay these kids their market value.
What keeps FSU in the top tier of programs is that there is a salary cap on players, and a numbers cap on both coaches and players. After that, its all about where you are located in regards to recruiting.
yeah since TJ was soo quiet i wasn't quite sure but hearing him today, i was really impressed
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Tell TS to show us that love
And become a booster.
whoa...
where did Steward say FSU would stay his favorite team?
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
One of these facial expressions is not like the other...
I pointed it out in case people have problem deciding. You got Tony’s whole family looking like they just swallowed a cache of hand grenades and then this turd muffin. And yes, he just got done winking at someone in the crowd with a #$Y# eatin grin. STRANGEST RECRUIT SIGNING EVER. 
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
not to mention how clemson conveniently announced coaching changes tonight...
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but they replaced their
oline coach, which is a definite upgrade. Anyone they got over their last coach is an upgrade. Got the former Vandy head coach I think.
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by onebarrelrum on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
but from what i read, coach scott was pivotal in recruiting and was attributed for landing most of their big recruits
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ho-ly crap!
I think we got Capitol effed!
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I am convinced of it and I usually don’t say that.
Lemonier
Calvin Smith
Steward
all similar to me
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i agree, there are times when you know you just got out recruited...there are others that everything screams BS...and this is one of those times...
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Don't think so in Steward's case.
I’m more inclined to believe the “bad host” story.
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
why would you think that..how many times has steward visited? and we didn't hear a peep other than his momma loves us, he loves us, and it will be great to be a nole...
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
specifically
someone knowledgeable of the situation believes that the reason the he chose Clemson was because on his OV to FSU, Steward’s host took him ‘partying’ and Steward being the conservative, family guy, wasn’t in to it. In the end, he felt more comfortable with the Clemson players.
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
my point. I doubt the whole family has super frown face if they are all getting paid off.
that makes less sense to me.
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
Makes sense if tony & mom not getting greased
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I don't know the kid personally.
Doesn’t seem like the kind to take money.
He’s quiet, not out going, wants to be around family. And the least believable thing was that he didn’t like his host’s ‘liberal’ partying?
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
i'm not saying it is impossible, but if it was that bad of a visit, i'm sure we would have gotten wind of it..it was one of the weirdest announcements i have seen though,
the fact that everyone, and i mean everyone was predicting him as an FSU commit, is even more evidence that it wasn’t something as obvious as not having a good time with his host.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
it wasn't
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
dang it, try again: it wasnt "that bad of a visit"
but the kid was torn.
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
I have reason to believe that person was told that and it is disingenuous on TS’ part.
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Disingenuous in that it covers up TS taking money?
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
covers up true motivation
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can't say it didn't happen.
Guess I just don’t see it coming from him. That’s all.
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
I don’t think Tony or his mom took money. And I don’t believe the decision was his choice entirely. Believe he was already bound after a certain point, looked for a way to get out of it (wavering, this AM), and then resigned to his fate, announced.
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That's probably pretty accurate way to put it
Sometimes its not the kids choice….or at least they dont perceive it is … Thats the best way of putting it
yeah, i wouldn't say i would see it coming, but i definitely didn't expect that, and the way it went down was what really set me on edge...
FSU isn’t above not landing a recruit but man that is was weird…that’s all i’m saying.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not gonna lie
I had to google disingenuous. Just to make sure I knew what you were talking about.
so your telling me that a host ruined that? i dont buy it...if that were the case...that would have come out before now.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
G5
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I suddenly feel sick.
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I don’t think LSU bought Rasco. I can’t say that for Clemson and Tony.
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case in point...great example bud. we got out recruited for rasco...but steward...something's not adding up.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
i'm sure coach got something but i don't think coach had that much pull.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
What could his coach possibly say that would sway him?
Just keep harping on playing time? Would that really be enough?
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 2, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, other than being in the kid's ear, I don't see how paying a coach is THAT helpful.
Especially when the family is so FSU-centric.
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You're not buying this, are you?
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
No?
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No? Does that mean not sure?
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
It means no I'm not buying it,
and I’m wondering why you asked.
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Doesn't make much sense to me.
But everyone else seems to believe it. You didn’t come right out and say “that’s stupid”, in typical trick fashion…so, wasn’t sure.
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
When do I do that?
Do I think Clemson paid his coach? Maybe. I don’t know. I don’t care, either. I realize a coach has influence on a player, but I just wonder how they can force a kid to go somewhere they may not want to go. Everyone seems to see the “proof” of it by the expressions in the announcement video, but I don’t see anything.
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Rasco was fair & square...
Though he did start recruiting for them. TS is well (“whistling by the graveyard”) … Good ol’ fashion lets make a deal
Wow, been following TN for a while and can honestly say that you(Bud) don't throw out accusations like this.
In fact, Bud usually talks people down from these kind of claims pointing out the other side’s position. I honestly feel sick about this Shi. And I thought I was crazy for getting the weirdest vibe from the announcement this morn.
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I second it
I’ll joke around about $EC and stuff (because you know, it’s true) but Bud never goes that route.
The more I think about this Steward situation the more pissed I get.
We will be fine without him, but he is a hell of a player. Something definitely seems fishy.
If a coach gets paid, and a player isn't happy with the decision
and the family isn’t happy with the decision, how does it pay (so to speak) the player to commit to the school of his coach’s choosing?
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Maybe something like
Hey man you cant make me give this back now, not after all I’ve done for you. I got bills to pay man.
Disclamier: That’s a complete guess.
I'm with AMFK on this.
No way (a) the coach would tell the kid that coach got paid and then rely on the kid not to leak such craeer-destroying information and (b) no way a HS coach has enough leverage to make a kid go against his and his family’s heartfelt desire. The kid may just have been convinced by that coach that he had to make a grown-up business decision, and there was no way to get around the playing time issue, was best in the long run financially for his hard-working momma if the kid got drafted highly due to more and earlier exposure at Clemson, etc. Kid looked like he was making an “adult” decision he didn’t want to make.
(Sorta’ like when I had to decide I could not continue a relationship with a certain hot young thing who wanted to marry me….)
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by PeachTreeNole on Feb 3, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Good points
I was just throwing out a way the coach could have pressured him. I like your reasoning better though.
Been busy today...
but I’ll make one comment … One of the worse announcements ever – People will reap what they sow on that one.
I'll play devil's advocate
You couldn’t help but notice how the family was upset and Tony was clearly uncomfortable. However, it could be as simple as Tony felt uncomfortable about disappointing his family with his decision. Some kids want to get away and maybe playing time truly was the bigger factor. He may have felt more comfortable at Clemson, but he knew his decision was going to disappoint a lot of people close to him.
I don’t blame anyone for wondering about the possible bribe issue. We all live in the real world and I’m pretty sure it’s in the back of most everyone’s mind from time to time.
by PSLNOLE on Feb 3, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not to mention that the whole audience was doing the tomahawk/warchant or something
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
My foul play instinct w/ that situation
wasn’t a bribe, but rather having some kind of dirt on the kid. Paranoid instinct, but that was nonetheless my instinct as well.
He could have just been faced with a difficult situation.
It was tough for me to decide between my final two schools when I applied for both my MA and PHD programs.
I felt bad informing the other school that I was accepting another offer.
But, I’ll third the comment elsewhere that says Bud usually doesn’t suggest such things.
Ooo. Takes me back to an awkward orientation moment.
A guy made a comment about only getting in at one place, and I said, “Really?” I tried to cover (he was in a competitive field), but I don’t think the guy ever liked me after that…
The trick is, apply to 8-10 places. 1-2 dream places, 1-2 slight reaches (very good programs), 3-4 solid programs, and 2-3 emergency back-ups. It’s expensive, but it worked for me.
Ah. Emergency back-up failure. I see.
Even uf declined on your offer to attend, huh? That’s a new low… ;-)
Haha nope
I’m from Ohio. But i did get rejected by a college in West Virginia, and if you know any people from West Virginia you’d know why that’s such a failure.
I don't know anyone personally
But I dare you to watch this video (I think you can find the whole thing in parts, on youtube).
PSLNOLE, your explanation is plausible
the awkward mood was a result of the disagreement between Tony and his mom. But the behavior of Tony’s coach needs explaining, e.g., coach had an incentive ($, etc.) for Tony signing with Clemson… even if this was unknown (sound familiar?) to Tony.
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supossedly he went to bed thinking FSU and woke up thinking Clemson
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm talking about the tran$action.
The winds changed like a light switch between yesterday and today.
Does anyone have a link to a video of Tony's announcement?
I was at work so I missed it.
Directorial (or at least video-editing) proposition:
Someone with the technical wherewithal needs to take that clip, and at the point where Coach gets “the Grin,” digitally pan/zoom in on his face and drop the Inception music.
It gets really awkward after the ESPN dude asks him about leaving the state of florida
He starts fiddling with the mic and his coach is like ‘crap crap say something.’ dude gets really antsy in his chair. And before that he was saying something about the distance from home he’d be able to come home whenever…….and then he kinda trails off. Whole thing was awkward and I couldn’t watch the whole thing
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by SteadfastNole on Feb 3, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
I dont think anyone above me watched the link
totally stole that line from someone else from a few weeks ago, but its true.
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6082548
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 3, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
i know right...not like you just got a full scholarship to your dream school to play football and lead the team.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 3, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
It was actually a lot like this: "So what made Clemson more attractive to you..." ---> "(no answer/pause) Hell if I know..."
It was almost like the kid wanted to say I didn’t pick them, but I have to go there.
Odd. Not sour grapes…wish he was here, but not the end of the world that he’s not…but still weird.
It was almost like Clemson found out some dirt and threatened to open it up if he didn't sign.
Didn’t get the “they gave me a million bucks” vibe…it was more of a “dude has a loaded gun to my head and telling me to get in” feel.
I Have a hard time believing this theory
Why would a team want to have a kid playing for them that doesn’t even want to be there and isn’t going to dedicate himself or give his whole heart to the program. Not to mention theres always the risk the kid simply outs them for blackmailing him. Then the entire program is shi* canned. I dunno just doesn’t seem like a likely scenario to me.
"We have to start over. We have to develop our own identity, our own chemistry, our own unity, our own vision of where we want to go...This is just the beginning. Because remember one thing – I tell you all the time: Boys do what they want to do. Champions do what they’ve got to do. " CJF
He'll dedicate himself and give himself fully to the team because he wants to go to the NFL, screw the program.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I just watched it
I started to feel depressed, then I looked at his coach and I felt better. His S*** eating grin really lit up the room and highlighted the whole families misery.
2 players yesterday looked depressed announcing their decision TS and Cyrus K. Loved Crowells announcement though holding up a baby bulldog
by nole your enemy on Feb 3, 2011 5:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Reminds me of
Ricky Bobby’s first interview. Then it ends up with “I got you a present at Walmart it’s real nice.”
Reminds me of the Cyrus announcement
and we know how that has turned out
by TampaLawNole on Feb 3, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
Meh, didn't thought it looked like his mom supported him.
Not excited but supportive. And just looked like Steward’s not a big fan of public speaking.
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Went to bed FSU and woke up Clemson?
Where’s that “Inception” music when you need it? I think Dabo and Steele invaded his dreams.
You can't just go around accusing Steele and company of buying receivers and elite defensive prospects.
I mean, who are you, Vic Koenning? It must be hard for Clemson fans. How do they defend the fact that their last Defensive Coordinator basically accused their current Defensive Coordinator (along with Lance Thompson) of buying players at Alabama?
Karlos Williams
Anyone like him even more now after hearing he turned down a MTV reality show and decided to recruit for FSU instead?
How many of us would have done this at 17-18? Not many would be my guess.
A poster had said this a while back, when discussing that even though he was a "talker" there was no character issues and that he will be one of the most dedicated guys on the team once he enrolls
"FEAR is just the Opening ACT!!!" Coach Coley
Sounds a lot like Deion.
Apparently the most dedicated player at practice. Has never touched alcohol or tobacco. Not saying those things are bad, just illustrating that the guy may talk a lot of crap, but he means business on the field.
On interceptions or special teams?
I know that process is the focus, but I would really LOVE to see some results against UM and UF.
That was incredible! Love that story.
How many times are we going to hear that over the next three to four years.
He couldn't do both?
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Front page of ESPN
SECond To FSU
The SEC shined on signing day. Alabama and Auburn led nine recruiting classes among the top 25. But Florida State is No. 1
awesome picture with it!!!
with the news of coach Scott leaving clemson, don't you think there are some ethics issues, given the fact he was the one recruiting 2 of the three 5*..including steward?
Tennessee did some shady stuff too with them waiting to announce their NCAA issues
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 2, 2011 10:48 PM EST reply actions
Enjoy
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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by Bud Elliott on Feb 2, 2011 10:51 PM EST reply actions 12 recs
Nice, I was scrolling down to the bottom to ask someone to copy and paste this.
Think this cap needs to sit at the top of the front page for a long, long time.
Ha, same here. Bud, maybe you should add the #1 class of 2011 to your list of accomplishments in your signature
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This is better
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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by Bud Elliott on Feb 2, 2011 11:02 PM EST reply actions 19 recs
Now it says SECond to One
which is still pretty badass
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Feb 3, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
yes
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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So, does this mean you now like Los at safety?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 2, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
More yes
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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Somebody que the Burns picture and....excellennnnt
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
?
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
No! Simpsons Mr. Burns.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Eeeeexxxxxxcellllllllleeeeeeennnnnnnttttt......
There's another one: SMACK!
by Gator Slapper on Feb 3, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
"Have the Rolling Stones killed"
“But sir, those aren’t-”
“Do as I say!!!”
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
I know he is a special player, but a true freshman in the secondary would scare me.
Especially early in the season. He would definitely be an upgrade as far as talent goes imo.
Karlos was interviewed yesterday on TallyESPN radio.
We were very impressed and instantly realized why Jimbo let him go on the radio. Very smart kid and a better speaker than many coaches. He has a head on his shoulders to pick up whatever Stoops throws at him.
Maybe someone can post that around here.
Best part about today
UF fans going nuts and doing their best to rationalize everything. Suddenly guys like Wilder and Waisome were never being considered by UF.
Best comment concerned Jernigan “How can a true Gator fan go to FSU? He’s dead to me.” Sigh, some people need to prioritize their life.
by Jonathan Loesche on Feb 2, 2011 11:45 PM EST reply actions
Sort of like FSU fans saying:
“How can Steward, a lifelong FSU fan go to clemson…He is the enemy now.” Dont think there is anything wrong with that.
by Blue Horseshoe on Feb 3, 2011 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’s the same thing. 18 year old kids charged with making a huge decision, I don’t hold anything against them and wish them all the best 364 days out of the year.
by Jonathan Loesche on Feb 3, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
A freind of mine who is a UF fan
Told me today that the only thing we did that was special last year was beat USC. I pointed at him and laughed without making a comment. Gator fans are funny like that.
Wow, there's an alumni internet orgy goin on up in here.
Something big happen today?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 2, 2011 11:48 PM EST reply actions
which is odd because ive been to clemson...really...it's a descent place but columbia is really nothing special...
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 3, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
They have signed very good classes before.
FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.
by onebarrelrum on Feb 3, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, there coaching staff is like a virgin on prom night...got the date...can't get the dress off and even if they could they wouldn't know what to do.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 3, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
I Remember Bud
saying something along the lines of Clemson preparing for this class 2-3 years ago…looks like they prevailed on what they were trying to accomplish
but to say you love your visit...definitely not because of the surroundings..columbia is like florida, but not near water, not a descent woman in sight and hot as hell
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 3, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Dabo is a hell of a recruiter, plain and simple.
by Jonathan Loesche on Feb 3, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
True...Steele is a devout Christian
and really knows how to connect with kids that are “kindred spirits” in that regard. His influence was key but still not enough in and of itself to make TS switch.
by Blue Horseshoe on Feb 3, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
I think its a great chance unfortunately.
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
After the two LBs they landed today?
Entirely po$$ible.
Not sure...
Don’t know if they can pull that in-state without getting nipped
by FSU on Feb 3, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
I for one hope they try
because if there’s anyone you don’t cheat and get away with it, it’s Spurrier. He’ll raise a stink so bad it’ll out-nasty the corporate hog farms in South Carolina.
Now that NSD is over, what are the chances that a certain TN member fesses up to being O'Leary.
"FEAR is just the Opening ACT!!!" Coach Coley
by NOLE09JON on Feb 3, 2011 12:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
lol...i don't think that is oleary....may be someone close to him but it's not him.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 3, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Ha, I know. Just my way of saying thanks for the updates for the last year
"FEAR is just the Opening ACT!!!" Coach Coley
Can't we party like it's 2011...for just a little longer?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Love it.
Don’t you already have 7 commits for 2012, Jimbo? Not exactly a beginning, but I get what you mean. Is Edwards Jr. the biggest target out there?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
Now I can't tell if you're being serious.
I think he is. Especially since we came up short one DE this year. Who else you got?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
No I really do think he is our biggest target esp with next year being our "DE" year
As of right now I’d like to see a Stud WR and a QB(not that I don’t love Coker)
I think what cant be stressed enough the value
of having EEs on campus to evaluate
by FSU on Feb 3, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions
I hope we have 5-10 ee's every year.
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should we be looking for a "stud QB" every year?
Or, every other year. With a serviceable QB or two mixed in?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
If you can get, sure. But, should we be looking?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Do you look for studs at every other position (aside from kicker/punter) every year?
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Sure.
Fisher didn’t go after a stud QB last year, did he? Not that I remember anyway. It was an honest question. I really don’t know if “stud” QB every year is a priority.
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think you should go after the best possible every year.
Heaps at BYU and Sims at Alabama are two quick ones that come to mind from last year.
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Ya and neither are "studs" in the conventional sense of the term
And I like Trick, but dude needs to add some weight.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
At least 30 pounds. At least.
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We should always be looking to land as many studs as we can
Especially at QB. And as good a player as you can land if you can’t land a stud.
This may not always be feasible, however. Very few stud QBs want to be behind another true stud QB for 3 years. Usually the most successful programs average a stud QB once every 2-3 years at most.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
that was kinda my point. If you know that, do you put the time and effort into going after it?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
I would, because that decision should be up to the players themselves to make.
If they know that we’re full of talent at QB and still want to come here and compete anyway, more power to ‘em. Some people’s dream is to merely play on a college team, while others dream of playing for their favorite college team.
As a coach, I’m not going to turn down a talented kid who wants to chase his dream if it can make my team better
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Yea, you HAVE to recruit elite talents every year.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Btw, not that it matters to us.
but Brionte Dunn is an absolute stud RB for next year, check out his film its unreal. He’s verbal to OSU though
composite scores updated
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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likelihood of staying consensus #1 when Kouandjio finally mails it in? (assuming he ends up at AU or Bama)
also, safe to assume if Bama gets Clowney they would grab the top?
High
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
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So I sorta get it, but still its annoying.
First, in the ESPN “SECond to FSU” taped segment, they only mention FSU to bring up the Steward thing and talking about him going to Clemson.
Second, on the ESPN front page, the poll question is, “Who would you rather sign with? Brown, Chizik, Saban, Kiffin, Tressel” I mean, I might get that were they all coaches who finished top 5 in the AP or something. And I sorta get it, because they might be the best recruiters? But then, why isn’t Jimbo in there? head explodes
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
Jimbo will start getting his due
He’s already getting some, but I think he’ll get more recognition over the next 18-24 months.
Agreed. 2-3 years of success=track record.
Then the props will start to flow his way.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
right, don't disagree.
I’d just hope to start seeing something about especially this class haul. But it seems to me, since Fisher pulled in the majority of it pre-ESPN-recruiting/advertising-bonanza, that ESPN was less enthusiastic about the finish. (as opposed to Clemson/Auburn)
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
Bama's class came in early and uneventfully, too. Mostly done by noon.
About the most exciting thing was the girl tending their fax machine as the LOIs came in.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Roll Ti-
Whoa. That was close. Sheesh.
Go Noles!
Looks like someone got their panties in a wad over this.
Figuratively speaking, of course.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-alabamaswebcam
by Paul M. Parks on Feb 3, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
So, which SEC school full of ugly girls complained?
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
LOL!
It’s a school-sanctioned uniform, how is it inappropriate?
This also made me laugh:
The Web cam was run by Crimson Tide Productions, which has received attention for a couple of miscues in the past year. First, "Mississippi" was spelled with only one ‘p’ on tickets for a home football game against Mississippi State.
Then, songs targeting Auburn quarterback Cam Newton were blared at the stadium before the Iron Bowl. "Take the Money and Run" and "Son of a Preacher Man" played over the loudspeakers.
but FSU got the best players.
Poll questions win very few games
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no doubt. at some time though I would like to see ESPN's advertising campaign work *for* FSU
"Then the X-Files being,/Looking like some kind of blue-green Jackie Chan/With Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of/Vanilla Chig Champa/Did a slow-mo Matrix descent/Outta the butt end of the banana vessel/And hovered above my bug-eyes, my gaping jaw,/And my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip,/And all I could think was:/"I hope Uncle Martin here doesn't notice/That I pissed my ****in' pants.""
Great Reference!
Love me some West wing.
by stop drop & nole on Feb 3, 2011 3:50 AM EST up reply actions
Dude, you just z'd nobody, followed by yourself.
Long day?
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no kidding.
first ‘z’ was unintentional. the second was a description (lacking all confidence) of the first.
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refresh it. I added more
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Wow
I love the part about the Florida/275 mile radius guys.
Going to delete most of the off-topic stuff in the AM. This thread will be unreadable for mobile users by then.
Not offended by it, just thread management.
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'11: Conference Champions?
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last week in feb.
Thinking we will list minimums
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With a redo of depth chart, etc. to overview?
or will you do just prospects on the board
by FSU on Feb 3, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure, what do you suggest
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QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
OL
OL
TE
DL
DL
DL
DL
LB
LB
DB
DB
DB
that’s 18, but I expect like 22-24
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Im going to ballpark 24 right now
Lets see where we are post-spring game
by FSU on Feb 3, 2011 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I want 2 TEs
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Not that I think we're thin at LB
but I’d like 3 Next year. With Bradham graduating and Luc/Jones/T.Smith becoming juniors by the time next class is enrolled, I think it will be time to groom another crop of young backers
I expect 3 WR
Black, Bracy, 1 more
Florida State Seminoles
by basbalstr101 on Feb 3, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
A bigger one, hopefully
Black and Bracy are tiny speedsters.
Interesting to look at the depth chart for WRs from this perspective.
i.e., what do you want that receiver to do. The “big” guys we’re talking about excel in blocking and winning one-on-one matchups coming down with the ball – especially in the red zone. So you don’t necessarily need to be 6’6 to fill this need, as long as you are big enough + strong and athletic.
Going by my own guesses about realistic size, with what I deem to be “big” guys noted in bold:
2011
6’6 225 R. Smith (Jr)
6’2 225 W. Haulstead (Jr)
6’6 230 K. Benjamin (Fr)
6’1 205 C. Green (R-Fr)
6’0 195 G. Dent (So)
5’11 195 T. Easterling (Sr)
6’2 195 J. Gehres (R-So)
6’0 190 J. Haggins (So)
5’10 170 B. Reed (Sr)
5’11 170 K. Shaw (So)
5’11 170 R. Greene (Fr)
2012
6’6 225 R. Smith (Sr)
6’2 225 W. Haulstead (Sr)
6’6 230 K. Benjamin (So)
6’1 205 C. Green (R-So)
6’0 195 G. Dent (Jr)
6’2 195 J. Gehres (R-Jr)
6’0 190 J. Haggins (Jr)
5’11 170 K. Shaw (Jr)
5’11 170 R. Greene (So)
[any 2012 recruits]
2013
6’6 230 K. Benjamin (Jr)
6’1 205 C. Green (R-Jr)
6’0 195 G. Dent (Sr)
6’2 195 J. Gehres (R-Sr)
6’0 190 J. Haggins (Sr)
5’11 170 K. Shaw (Sr)
5’11 170 R. Greene (Jr)
[any 2012 recruits]
[any 2013 recruits]
While we do appear to have an excess of under-6 foot, under-200 lb guys, we’ll be OK through 2013 since we’ll still have 2 guys in Benjamin and Green that fill this need. Additionally there’s the chance that one of the other guys “blows up” under Vic’s instruction. Someone like Dent or Haggins might have the frame to do it.
So, I think we can get by until 2013 NSD for a new crop of big WRs if necessary, especially considering the versatile bunch of TE/H-Back types of guys like O’Leary and Tye that we can throw into the mix if we want to out-physical our opponents while still spreading them out.
not 100%, but Haggins looks to be playing slightly heavier than 190.
I think he’ll play around 200 as a JR
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Suspected that, that's why I threw him in as a candidate to "blow up" under Vic.
Maybe he’s got some of his unk’s genetics.
right, missed that the first read-through. got it the second.
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but overall looks fine.
2012 WR will be sick.
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2012 everything looks sick
5 Senior DL, Upperclassmen all over the secondary, 4 and 5 stars occupying the LB spots, EJ as a RS Sr., CT23 and Lonnie as Seniors.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
UF at home for SENIOR DAY....
Exxxxxcellent.
by arrdub on Feb 3, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nevermind
I thought you meant we would crush them on their Senior Day in 2012…
The best is yet to come. Go Noles!
I don't think we need another 6'5/6'6 body
but wouldn’t mind getting someone 6’1-6’2 (i.e. Haulstead/Green). Take the 6’1/6’2 guy with the same skill set as the 5’10/5’11 guy any day.
If we only got Bracy and Black for 2012, I’d still be tickled.
Florida State Seminoles
And Carradine is 270 and runs a 4.5-4.6...
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He didn't get to Jacobi Mc.
He is 320 sub 4.4 now.
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Actually this seems pretty par for us.
Our 1 am dicking-around-after-NSD thread is still more active than most sbnation gamethreads,
Out of curiosity
Was the “Firewater Saloon” too far beyond the pale? Not really FanPost material, probably… but perhaps not too unlike the off-topic threads.
Missed it
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Heh. It came out of all the off-topic stuff above
I posted it earlier:
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2011/2/3/1972078/the-firewater-saloon
Fine by me. Well done
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Cool
Thanks. And thanks for all the coverage today/yesterday.
Haha. Nattylite already deleted your saloon.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 3, 2011 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
Guess you'll have to wait for that virtual drink...
But The Firewater Saloon rocked. Well, it woulda-coulda-shoulda.
MAKE ME ANOTHER. Please.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 3, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I need some sweet, sweet college football distraction today. I’ve been reading the NYS budget for an hour, my head hurts, and the roads have too much snow on them to make my weekly pilgrimage to Panera.
DO IT.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 3, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
You want another saloon?
Say the word, and construction will start!
Yes, please.
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 3, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Y'all showed up in force. 50,000 visits today
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by Bud Elliott on Feb 3, 2011 2:03 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
That's impressive...
Especially with some people not having power all day because of weather
by FSU on Feb 3, 2011 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
I lost two hours due to power outage
Right after we found out about TS. So of course, I shifted to my blackberry SMSed Tomahawk to the appropriate number and found out via text about TJ.
Did I mention how awesome Tomahawk Nation is yet today?
and already 1300 in just the last two hours.
a 31000 pace for Feb. 3. NSD + 1.
FSU, the 2010 Florida and South Carolina state champs.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
oops, 15000.
FSU, the 2010 Florida and South Carolina state champs.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
I know its been said a million times
But this is truly thee Best sight for FSU info. I love it. I’m actually proud to be part of the stuff that goes on here.
Big thanks to Bud, DA, and everyone else around here that provides meaningful content and conversation.
Wait
Does that “3” mean that there have been over 1200 visits since midnight?
yes
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I'm convinced. You don't like me.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
What's an average day
as far as visits. Would be interested to see some data on that, if you could.
Looks to be about 22-26k right now.
Technically it’s not football season anymore, so the fall numbers could be a bit higher. Also, TN might still be slowly trending up as more people find the site.
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Brisset to Miami and Clowney to Clemson puts me in a bad mood
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by BigSpearDiplomacy on Feb 3, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
I thought FSU wasn’t that concerned about where Brissett would go? The rational part of me doesn’t believe Clowney would go to Clempson. They haven’t really won anything, and I don’t see Swinney hanging out for more than another year or two. Am I just really naive?
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by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Feb 3, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
i don't think it matters if they have won anything, they have proven to be a very good recruiting school...
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by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 3, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
This 2012 class is unlike anything they've put together in maybe decades and perhaps ever.
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Two questions:
Did you mean 2011 or 2012?
And are you talking about Clemson?
If you’re talking about Clemson’s 2011 class, ESPN had a class of theirs a couple years ago rated top 3 or so, I think.
2011 and yes.
I was going off of Rivals’ rankings.
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I honestly don't know which services to trust.
Each of them has thrown out a stinker here and there… well, maybe not 247, but they will soon enough, I’d have to guess… actually, it somewhat seems like 247 massively over-compensated for Rival’s massive-discount of FL talent this year.
Anyway,if one of the “major” services has given Clemson a top 5, you can’t make your assertion, I don’t think.
An RSCI for football would be best when "ranking" players or classes.
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We need Bud to commission us to put a website together,
and agree to share half of the Google ads revenue with him. We could get into some mad coin.. like $10/month I bet.
What mystery recruit was Coach Gran talking about that we might get in the next few days? Brissett, Clowney, Cyrus? Who else is out there?
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source? i hadn't heard this.
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by SmoothCrimiNole on Feb 3, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Some friends of mine were at the War Party and spoke to Gran
He mentioned that there MAY be one or two more to come. No idea who or when and Gran wouldn’t say.
by TampaLawNole on Feb 3, 2011 10:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He can't say. NCAA violation.
Interesting, even if we don’t sign anyone else.
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its crazy to see guys this size going to FSU.
I could see this from a big 10 team but it has always been about speed. I dont think this is a one and done for the staff to get a group like this. This looks like the start of something great.
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Question about Jernigan's size
I love this kid’s film. He looks like a monster. Also, I grew up in High Springs and I’m a homer for Northcentral Florida players. But, I’ve been reading for over a year on this sight and hearing from CJF about “size matters” and getting big kids. So, for a DT, 6’2" 275 doesn’t seem that huge. Is like of size a concern for Jernigan? Or is it assumed he’ll bulk up to 290-300? And if so, how will that effect his speed? Or is he just that special that it won’t matter?
He’ll get to 290-300. He’s not there now IMO. But he’s a 3-tech not a nose and so he doesn’t need to be quiet as big.
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That raises a good question I was thinking about last night
We don’t seem to have any real 1-techs besides McCloud. Who else can/will play it next year? McDaniel? NLS seems to have the size for it.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Wanna see how people look in Spring
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maybe an inch or so taller
~12 lbs heavier. my guess
And for further comparison sake:
McDaniel was position rank, no 1, no 1, no 2 (ESPN, Scout, Rivals, respectively) and 5 star player at all three.
Jernigan is position rank no 1, no 2, no 2, no 4 (247, Rivals, ESPN, Scout, respectively) with two 5 star ratings (Scout, 247) and two 4 star ratings (ESPN, Rivals). Note: 247 did not grade players when McDaniel was a recruit.
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I'm really hoping McCloud can take over NT and McDaniel can slide over
I know DRusso doesn’t care for this. But I really don’t think McDaniel is that screwed.
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Jaccobi doesn't have the length or explosion to consistently threaten the outside shoulder of the OG
Threatening the outside shoulder of the OG is how you disrupt the offense…..it’s what makes the 3-tech DT the most important player in a base 4-3 defense.
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Jernigan isn't just an inch+ taller then Jaccobi, he's also longer and *significantly* more explosive.
The kind of upfield explosion he has, you don’t need to be 6’5" to reach the OG’s outside shoulder.
He’s not a “finesse” guy, he’s a powerful, explosive interior lineman….he will be the best DT at FSU in a decade by the time he’s done.
(and I am very high on Dawkins)
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Best in a decade is a BIG measuring stick.
You’re basically saying Corey Simon >= TimmyMagic > the group of D. Dockett, T. Johnson, and B. Bunkley. Hope your prognostication is right on.
Jernigan will leave in 2014 or 2015, so adjust your names accordingly.
I absolutely think he will be better then the “other” TJ, and Dockett was more then a decade before him, leaving him matched up vs Bunkley. I think that, given 3+ years with state of the art support, S&C, and individual/team coaching better then what Bunk had……yes.
Tim Jernigan >/= Broderick Bunkley….that is my prediction.
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NLS is under 6'2", but 300lbs with long arms & AMAZING athleticism
If he he the power to hold up at the POA, he could bring a new era to the 1-tech position. a 4-3 defense rarely has a playmaker at the Nose….
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Totally forgot about Lawrence-Stample or Mitchell in my comment below.
Some other big bodies.
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2009
Jenkins 235
McDaniel 270 / Thacker 270
Dawkins 265 / Mincy 265
McNeil 250
2011
Jenkins 250 / Hicks 265
McDaniel 295 / McCloud 305 / Erving 305 / NLS 305
Dawkins 290 / McAllister 290 / Cummings 305 / Jernigan 290 / Mitchell 295
Carradine 260 / Werner 285 / Newberry 265
just since you brought it up.
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by harper.rb on Feb 3, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Cummings and Erving.
Still think Jackson could play DT. Maybe a 1 if he gets big enough.
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"Could", yes.....but I still say his future is at interior OL where I think he will surprise a *LOT* of people.
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I think he's a good looking recruit. I think taking 8 OL kind of opens things up for him to switch if need be.
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Justtin Hopkins told me on twitter that Jernigan is up to 290, per his coach.
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not to be trusted, Jimbo said 297 in an interview
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That's what made me ask him. Just repeating what JHop told me.....it's possible, even if not likely.
He’ll probably show up at a lean 280/285ish
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ah, good call then
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"We go for speed" is an excuse used when you can't get quality size. We can get size now.
Say what you want about speed (and don’t be mistaken, these guys are all plenty fast), dynasties are built upon dominant lines full of superior athletes. Always have been, always will be.
And yes, I think this one will be great, too. This OL class is more impressive on paper than any of our dynasty-era classes of linemen. In fact, it’s better than any two consecutive OL classes of the 87-2000 era. That’s how awesome this class was.
We pulled a ton of kids and they’re all huge and incredibly athletic. This is truly the start of a next-level OL.
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Pretty sure Sugar Ray Leonard threw faster combinations than Muhammed Ali.
But I doubt he’d have wanted to get into the ring with him.
Fast size wins.
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by PeachTreeNole on Feb 3, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Force.
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
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Science geeks help me out & differentiate between power and force….as it pertains to impact sports.
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They are related. Power = F X V
Or work/time. Basically power is how far you move something over a finite period of time. Naturally, force is required to do the moving. From a semantics stand point…on the field, nobody gives a Shiite Muslim.
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
What's the net force of a person walking up a staircase and then back down?
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net power*
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I'm sure you're thinking it'd be zero, right?
Work is Force x displacement, not distance moved. Potential energy might be what you’re thinking.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Trick did not specify
Whether or not the spaceship on which the staircase is located could have its gravitational field disabled in between the trip up and trip down.
Any good engineer knows he can’t answer that question without more info.
Not thinking potential energy.
Would it be 0?
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Would work be 0?*
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No, it's displacement (total distance traveled, and direction) not net distance traveled.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Work is F x D
Work would be (Fup x Dstair) + (Fdown x Dstair), or “2Dstair(Fup + Fdown)”
but i’m in architecture not engineering, so I’d have to get my engineer to stamp that before i would.
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your right. I did that second half completely wrong.
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Close enough for this forum. We should end this forum now.
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, that was the lightbulb moment for me.
Wasn’t understanding DKN’s wording. Tiresome week…
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Failed teaching moment. Serious blow to self esteem.
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm, I got the equation close enough, but I'm not sure on the final result
originally I was thinking that Work was always a positive force, therefore it always accumulates. But work can be negative with gravity. And going down the stairs would be a lot of negative gravitational force. Work only occurs where there is displacement, D. So the fact that you went up and down determines there must have been work done.
Got it. So, first, to go up the stairs you have to accelerate faster than gravity to change D the distance of the length and height of the stair (AKA in two directions. X, (horizontal distance) Y, vertical distance.
Once you start back down, you gain negative work for the effect of gravity on the Y axis, but you must still expend Force on the X axis to travel the required horizontal distance. (You also use force to maintain the opposite acceleration of gravity, but only to prevent yourself from falling, not intently to change D – but that does happen as a person tends to ‘bob’ as they walk).
W = F x D; F = M x A;
W = (M x A)D
Wyup + Wxright + (Wydown) + Wxleft
where Wydown will be negative because of gravity. Overall a positive value of work.
I know there is a more efficient way of doing this and once again. need my engineer to stamp that.
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Gravity helps on the way down, but you're still fighting it.
Think of each step as a controlled fall. You supply the force to cancel gravity, or you’d continue to fall. “Force”, in those equations, is actually the vector sum of several forces. Gravity is one of them.
Said another way, if you’re moving at a constant rate (magnitude of acceleration = 0), the vertical force you’re supplying is equal to that of gravity, but in the opposite direction. So on the decent the y component is about zero and you’re left with the x component.
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Reading again, I probably just confused you more.
I’ll end my involvement here, since I suck at internet teaching, by saying you’ve got the right idea.
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 3, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
My f*ckin head hurts and all I did was skim that sh!t....
Still didn’t address power on the field…..but that’s OK.
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Just think speed multiplied by force.
don’t worry about the actual definitions of the terms. Your intuition is satisfactory.
Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 4, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
You could have told me that & saved the whole thread....
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Yeah, I know. Hindsight and all.
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Some players move chains and some change numbers on the score board.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Feb 4, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
It is official FSU is the #1 class per 247, #1 ESPN, #1 Scout (once they put Auburn back to 24 recruits) #2 Rivals and #2 Max Preps.
Our combined average is sick!
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Does MP still have ND #1
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Don't put much faith in MaxPreps
IMO MaxPreps allows certain biases to distort its ratings, particularly unrealistic overrating of ND.
That's why nobody uses their numbers for anything here on TN.
Same reason Bleacher Report analyses get deleted here, too. Both sources are inherently unreliable.
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I'll keep saying it just because, Max Preps rankings are pretty solid overall.
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Your standards are low.
Any “ranking” that places a non-candidate at the top of its list deserves any scrutiny it gets. Would the AP poll have been “pretty solid overall” if they had crowned, say, #8 at #1?
Overall, as in "for the most part", yes.
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Nah, if you screw-job #1, you're done.
If it was a computer poll you can understand an outlier just happening to top the rankings due to some random input, but these are people’s opinions, and they saw how high they had ND ranked for a long time and failed to correct it.
Agree to disagree on it then.
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You can't do that yet, we haven't even hit the right margin.
I’ve never seen you fail to hit the right margin.
Sapplike?
Warren Sapp was 6’2" 290-295 at Miami and we all know how he turned out. Jernigan may end up like Sapp, and being a Tampa Bay Buccaneer fan THAT AINT BAD!!
Sapp was a fatty.
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I don't think Sapp was ever playing at lower than 300...
His buttocks probably weighed in at 175 in isolation.
by arrdub on Feb 3, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
football or not
checking out another man’s buttocks, especially to that detail = nono!
Scouts do it. Gluteal development matters in a lineman, offensive or defensive....it's an indication of what muscles they use most.
It matter A LOT.
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Can’t do that.
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'11: Conference Champions?
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Why? Socut and 247 are the same excpet O'Leary has 5*'s on 247 so that makes six 5*'s all together
Hart/O’Leary/Carradine/Williams/Wilder/Jernigan
5 per Scout and just added O’Leary from 247 to make it 6 :)
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Because it’s inflation
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'11: Conference Champions?
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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by Bud Elliott on Feb 3, 2011 11:58 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
nice chart.
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Oh snap. What a difference a decade can make....
2001 UM: “Our backups are better than our starters.”
2011 UM: “FSU’s backups are better than our starters.”
by arrdub on Feb 3, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's visually impressive
My question is, how much difference does 7 points actually make? Our block starts with Williams at 86, their block starts with Dorsett at 79. Plus, for a lot of the positions, the difference is less at the top (our top WR is 80, theirs is 79; both top CBs are 81; etc.).
The big difference, of course, is the DEPTH. Most of our guys are above most of their guys. And, most of our lower-rated guys on the big hogs on the lines (and you guys have covered how difficult those positions can be to evaluate accurately; with Jimbo and Trickett okaying our linemen, they’re probably better than other people have scored them).
Btw, I can’t wait for next season.
I think there’s only ONE player Miami signed who FSU would take. I bet Miami would take like 15 of FSU’s guys.
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I had the same thought.
Grooms their 2nd highest rated was passed on by FSU – along with several other down the list, williams, perryman.
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Wow
That makes me think that evaluators are too generous. It’s like they don’t want to hurt a kid’s feelings by rating him a 55 or something… it’s grade inflation, I tell you!
At least 15.
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And yet there are Cane fans saying they would trade their class with anybody's
by Blue Horseshoe on Feb 3, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
That chart is staggering.
Any chance of seeing a similar one with UF’s class. Obviously UF’s is better.
Interesting that Jimbo thinks next year’s class will really show the impact of the coaching changes. If that’s true and we throw another top class out there we could really put a significant distance between us and Miami, and all but close the talent gap with UF I would think.
I’m wondering if having 20-22 spots next year will lead to a bit of a buyers market, with top guys jumping in early to avoid being left out.
Sure
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I think the talent gap with UF will be closed by the time the game rolls around do to greater development of the young guys by FSU.
I don’t see a 31-7 beatdown in the Swamp….but I can see a comfortable 10-14 point victory.
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feels like college football season is officially over now.
oh well.
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I know what you mean
Kind of a bummer, CFB is about the only sport I watch. On a bright note though, I get to meet coach Craig tomorrow.
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Read somewhere that Trickett said Prestwood has trained at Center
and he’s never had a 6’6 Center, but they are going to start him off there. Interesting.
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He was referring to Pettis
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your absolutely right. He was.
your list reminded me of that topic, but I skipped over Pettis. Either way, interesting player for that position.
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Will we be seeing
a roster analysis/numbers crunch article soon?
I am guessing...33. And a 1/3. Repeating of course
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by ricobert1 on Feb 3, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
There are really only two guys who should be leaving. We’re at 87
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With
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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Clowney????
Charlotte Observer is reporting that Clowney might visit FSU this weekend? Anyone else hear anything on this?
He better
I sent some coeds with some signs. They cost some big bucks, too.
supposedly.
doubt he leaves the area though. Wants to be near family and the family wants to go to all his home games. Clemson/SCAR
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Thanks for the texts!
I just want to say thanks for the text messages. Yesterday happened to be a day that I wasn’t at my desk much, so it was perfect for me (not yet a smart phone person)
The future looks very bright in Tallahassee!
Florida State 45 Miami 17
Florida State 31 Florida 7
State Champions
ACC Atlantic Division Champions
Does anyone know of a NT that we are recruiting heavily for '12
Not sure what Stuckey will play but does anyone know of an uncommitted guy that the staff is high on ?
Stuckey can probably play nose
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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FSU just Jimboned the rest of the country away from Florida.
And where did that talent come form? Home, sweet, home. Florida State inked 27 high school prospects. All but one of those high schoolers were from Florida or within a 275mi-radius of Tallahassee. When Fisher arrived here, he declared that FSU would attempt to fill all its needs with players from that base, and not chase national kids unless they filled a specific need.
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>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Feb 3, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Rec
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'11: Conference Champions?
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id like to see this photoshopped with Jimbos head on Bugs' body and maybe a Seminole Nation written on the state
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Actually, just write STATE on Florida, like on our old helmets.
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Clowney to visit FSU
http://scottfowlerobs.blogspot.com/2011/02/no1-clowney-down-to-usc-clemson-alabama.html
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Looks like someone might wanna pay that phone bill for him
Will Clem$on step up? It’s chump change compared to what Newton’s dad was looking for – surely CU is that far behind AU.
500 is a lot now, however
Within 5 years, he will be able to repay that by a lot. It sounds like a controversy about where he is going. He is waiting until he’s 18, if he signs before 18, one of his parents would have to sign also, I think. Something is going on, I hope it all works out for him, sounds like a great kid.
My personal ranking of the class
Williams, Jernigan, Freeman, O’Leary, Hart, Wilder, Mitchell, Matias, Jackson, Waisome, Hunter, Coker, Jenkins, Benjamin, Prestwood,K. Smith, Newberry, Lawrence-Stample, Greene, Lovelady, Brutus, T. Smith, Beverly, Carter,Pettis
Only included guys coming in as freshman
Great Coaches
Great Recruiters
Great Classes
National Championships
Auburn is Kiffin shady...
http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/reality-star-cast-for-aus-last-recruiting-gasp-29450
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Interesting to think about what constitutes a violation, and then how could it be proven or enforced.
So… this would only become a violation if somehow the AU staff was in contact with the night club about bringing this nice young lady into town to coincide with the meeting, right? It’s pretty well untraceable. Maybe they can get phone records between AU or coach’s cell phones and the night club, but even then it wouldn’t prove that they discussed this little event.
not too bright either.
why bring in a celeb who has already been implemented in two other significant sporting violations? – whether or not you you think you can cover it up. Asking for an investigation.
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implicated
Also, prove it up by getting her testimony- she’d likely do it for the free publicity.
Implemented – carry out, accomplish; especially : to give practical effect to and ensure of actual fulfillment by concrete measure
If that doesn’t makes sense, then I don’t want to.
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why bring in a celeb who has already been ...
[carried out][accomplished][given practical effect to and ensured actual fulfillment] in two other sporting violations?
If she were implemented,
it would imply deliberate intent on behalf of someone trying to implicate the players.
I was hoping "If that doesn’t makes sense, then I don’t want to."
would allow possible inference that I was just playin’
I accept that “implicate” was the desired word choice.
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I would like to stress
that I don’t consider myself grammar police (no deputizing, arrdub!) but simply enjoy teachable moments, so no snideness or anything intended :)
lol, no problem.
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I'll go ahead and tag a badge on the back of your shirt when you're not looking.
And the spirit you’ve expressed is precisely the character of enforcement that I want to see among my officers.
Let's make them count!
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drama free zone
From the days of stress hoping for another bowden strong NSD close, to the off the field distractions (uhhmm…cough…free shoes university), how sweet is it to finish with a respectable record, start recruiting early, lock up one of the best signing classes in the nation, and be reduced to giddy clown jokes. A real testament to the character of CJF team’s coaches and players making headlines for all the right reasons that all ‘noles can be proud of.
Another SWFL fan or North Port, AL?
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'11: Conference Champions?
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My Dad lives there.
It’s reeeaaalllyyyy hard to not feel genetically superior when I go visit….
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People are saying Brissett to the turds
Maybe they can run the Driskelberry offense (Brissett at QB, Driskel at FB, Burton at RB and Reed at TE)
if true UM is really F in the A b/c they didn't sign a QB yesterday
Maybe they get a Savage or Tate Forcie transfer
Tate Forcier would really fit what UM looks for in a QB lately...
And overhyped turnover machine with poor decision-making skills under pressure.
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The "Driskelberry offense"....whereby you pick sh!tballs out of your undies & throw them at your opposition because you don't know any audibles.
…Not as effective in Title IX sports.
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by DRusso97 on Feb 4, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
good
That was something which reminds me an old story.
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