Top Quotes Following FSU's Pounding Of Irish - How Sweet It Is
by FrankDNole on Mar 21, 2011 11:53 AM EDT
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PrintWhile we should all try to not get too full of and ahead of ourselves, last nights spanking of Notre Dame was perhaps the biggest win for the FSU basketball program in many of our younger readers lifetime. So far.
The Noles not only beat down the Irish with their nasty smothering defense, but also pillaged the Irish's Pot O' Gold and sent the Domers packing and back to the misery of South Bend, humiliated and whimpering with their green tails tucked between their legs.
That said, we feel the time is right to dust off our top quotes series from the archives for your reading amusement and enjoyment.
"I can't say enough about how proud I am of our players and how focused they've been since we lost in the ACC Tournament. Through the ups and downs this team has grown and matured in a lot of different ways. They've been extremely attentive, very focused." -FSU coach Leonard Hamilton
Notre Dame forward Tim Abromaitis is swarmed by Florida State forward/center Jon Kreft (50), forward Terrance Shannon and guard Derwin Kitchen (22). (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)
"Florida State flat-out beat us. Florida State deserved it and really outplayed us, especially the first 20 minutes. I thought if we had to give up something, we'd give up jump shots. But they made them, and then we're digging out of a hole. We're kind of numb because we invested so much. It just comes to a screeching halt. -Notre Dame coach Mike Brey
"A team like that, they're used to scoring. If it gets in their head that it's not going to be easy, they're going to get down on themselves and dig a hole because they're not used to that. They're used to the ball going through the hoop. They're used to getting the easy shot. But we're not giving that up. Every shot is going to be contested.'' -Michael Snaer
"When our guys were getting spot-up 3s, they're pretty good at knocking 'em down. Once they got on a roll, they just kept going." -Bernard James
"I thought our guys were really focused, they stuck with the game plan, they executed, made the extra pass and moved the ball. We stuck to the plan by playing good, solid fundamental defense." -Leonard Hamilton
"The momentum was on their side, it was basically a home game for them. The crowd got so loud when they got it down to 12. I got fouled and made a few free throws and kind of quieted the momentum down and we took care of the rest." -Derwin Kitchen
"He had three IV's today. He was sick, we didn't know he was going to be able to perform at all. But he gave us a tremendous effort." -Hamilton on Bernard James
"I'm still not feeling 100%. I actually felt like I had to vomit the entire game. I just felt like it was right there in my throat. I tried to focus as much as I could and played as hard as I could. I really didn't know how much I'd be able to contribute tonight. I was glad I could give the minutes that I did." -Game MVP Bernard James, who played 21 minutes after being administered 3 IV's on Sunday after being sick all Saturday night and Sunday morning.
"Hopefully, this is just the beginning of something special. The good thing about this team is I still think our best basketball is ahead of us." -Leonard Hamilton
"I am a little surprised how it played out. The lead we got, I thought we were going to win by five, 10. I didn't imagine that we would be up by 20 at one point. That's a great feeling. It shows what our team can do when we're playing together and playing our game.'' -Bernard James
"If we can stay consistent on the offensive end, I like our chances. We've just been so up and down and inconsistent on the offensive end, it allowed us to stumble at times and lose a few games. If we can stay consistent and execute on the offensive end, I like our chances because we play so well on the defensive end." -Derwin Kitchen who finished with 10 points and six rebounds
"You couldn't get stuff around the bucket. You're going to have to make more jump shots over the top and we couldn't. The combination of their defense and seven three-point shots put us on our heels." -ND coach Brey
"You have nights where you can't hit any shots. The first 30 minutes we couldn't hit any. We normally make those shots, but Florida State's defense, their length and athleticism, has something to do with it." -ND's Tim Abromaitis
"It means the progress that we have been making will obviously receive a certain level of recognition and I also feel that our players will feel better about themselves and their hard work is paying off. For me personally as a coach, I felt all along we could get to this point, but I also feel we can be a lot further along than we are." -Coach Leonard Hamilton
"We had enough guys step up on offense, and that was something we have been struggling with. The confidence then just started to spread throughout across the team." -Derwin Kitchen
"We competed and made it interesting there. But that's a big hole to come out of." -ND coach Brey said after the Irish closed it to 12 points with just under 7 minutes to play
"We couldn't get anything going offensively. They took us out of our rhythm." - Irish forward Scott Martin
"We played a lot of inside-out, you know the bigs on our team, we have kind of struggled this year as far as posting up and doing what we need to do on the offense. I think we executed pretty well tonight, catching the ball and kicking it out when they covered down. -Bernard James
"Out of respect for him, we gave him a lot of attention. We made sure our players understood his tendencies and the entire team's tendencies." -Hamilton on Ben Hansbrough
"Only in my wildest dreams. I'm living my dream right now." -Bernard James on going to the Sweet Sixteen
"I still think our best performances are ahead of us. I hope this is the beginning of something special. I think we found ourselves tonight." -Leonard Hamilton
"They're in the same boat as us. They're just riding off the momentum of their wins and hoping to get some more." -Michael Snaer on the upcoming VCU-Florida State semifinal which will mark the first time in tourney history a 10 seed has faced an 11 seed.
"The tournament is used as a measuring stick by everybody. I don't think you can battle against that line of thinking. But clearly, four months of performance should be a better indicator than four days." -Dan Gavitt, Big East associate commissioner for men's basketball
"Very disrespectful." -Snaer on Gavitt's comments considering how the ACC conference has the most teams in the Sweet Sixteen with FSU, Duke, and NC.
"I have something against the Big East. I don't respect any of their teams' defenses. Marquette is the only team I really feel goes after it, because we played them. We felt Virginia Tech and Boston College should have been in. They put Big East teams in instead because they thought it was a better conference. This just shows them." -Chris Singleton on Gavitt's comments and the lack of respect the ACC has received this year.
"Yeah, they didn't respond. Coach told us that before we went out. He said if we get a big enough lead that they're the type of team that they don't play well coming from behind. We could hear them out there - they were arguing with each other and it was like we kept everything going. We kept that momentum going, we kept executing what we [were] doing and they [were] just falling apart. They was just arguing with each other and everything." -Derwin Kitchen
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just to keep the mojo flowing...
I don’t see any way we can beat VCU. They have solid players and a “back against the wall” mentality. Also, they can shoot threes. They are better coached than us. We aren’t very good at all. This team just wants to draw as many people in before they upset us once again. FSU is a football school again, we have no need for basketball. These wins have been nothing more than flukes. I give us a 10% chance to win.
by B-rod24 on Mar 21, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Are you kidding?
We have the best defense in the country and when we’re hitting our shots, we can compete with anybody. We beat Duke didn’t we?
he's using reverse psychology on the force of mojo
shhhhhh
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Mar 21, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
There is also a nice video I saw over at CBSSports.com where that hot courtside
reporter invterview the jubilant Noles right after the game, Dulkys leading a team effort at the end of the clip going over and rubbing the Bald Dome of Coach Ham.
Why ask useless questions? How deep is the ocean? How high is the sky? Who is John Galt?
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was probably hoping for the “& company” to make an appearance…
/sore winner
The Navin R. Johnson of Tomahawk Nation.
I would boo too if the only time I got to see hot girls was when FSU comes into town.
ND girls=woof.
Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole! -FiestaNole
“Yeah, they didn’t respond. Coach told us that before we went out. He said if we get a big enough lead that they’re the type of team that they don’t play well coming from behind. We could hear them out there – they were arguing with each other and it was like we kept everything going. We kept that momentum going, we kept executing what we [were] doing and they [were] just falling apart. They was just arguing with each other and everything.” -Derwin Kitchen
This sounds eerily like the comments made after the UM and UF football games. We went and punched them in the mouth and said its on…and they backed down, got rattled and proceeded to get beat by FSU
you mean like the quote in my sig?
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
What kinda idiot would put that quote in their sig?
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
so nole07 doesn’t steal it?
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
i stole nothing
took that quote from the UF postgame interviews, not from you.
and that was a Spaceballs reference, btw.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I was kidding man didn’t intend to offend. And thanks I didn’t know the reference.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Mar 21, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
From Ben Hansbrough:
It feels like they (the Seminole Defense) ripped my heart out through my butt hole and then shoved it down my throat.
I don’t if he actually said that with his mouth, but he said it with his eyes all night long.
by Nolegrad89 on Mar 21, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
YES! I actually LOLd at that last night.
by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Mar 21, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean like this?
http://gif.mocksession.com/2011/03/headfoot/
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Mar 21, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I like how he grabbed his face
When the foot hit his shoulder and not his face. I guess he learned to flop from his brother
I think White swipes his forehead before bringing it back down to get him more flush in the shoulder.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Yeah it was a good one-two combo kick.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
actually - his brother is no flopper
one of the tougher sob’s to come through in a long time –
he likely kicked lil brother’s ass last night for embarrassing the family name w/ his performance..
either that post is dripping with sarcasm, or you never watched him play
just in case its the latter, i present the following for your edification:
exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJx9SRYTuHg
exhibit B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-oAFReylsw
exhibit C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8PYOzzKkTc
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Mar 21, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love it when people back up statements with evidence...
it just makes me so happy to see people showing their work and taking the time to help prove their point.
yeah, three clips, as opposed for four years of starting and earning 1st team all-acc
the guy played a very physical game on both ends of the court and never backed down from bigger players -
including the time he dunked on a 7’8 guy, and another time when a dukey elbowed him w/ a blatant cheap-shot in teh waning seconds of a game that was decided – yet he played w/ a broken nose throughout the tourney
That tall dude was a stiff, though.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
by tricknole on Mar 21, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
he wasnt "soft", per se
he flopped all the time, but it wasnt worse than Duke does on a weekly basis.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
all the time, huh?
and back to the original point:
he played the game very differently from his brother -
thats all im trying to say…
we can agree on that, to an extent
Tyler was tougher out of necessity. you cant play soft under the bucket, especially if you arent 7’, and expect to succeed. Ben gets away with being soft because he doesnt have to fight for position on the blocks or under the basket.
they both flop, but it seems to be a trend in basketball, so i guess you cant exclusively apply it as a pattern to the two of them. that was the part i loved about being a soccer ref: i got to card the pansies for flopping. yes, its rampant in international soccer, but they have gotten good enough that its hard to see sometimes. but i didnt ref pros or the national squad, so i could pick out the flop and pull a card on a guy who thought falling was getting him a free kick.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Kind of with 000111 on this one.
Hansbrough embellished contact and took charges, but he wasn’t one of the McFarland types that would spin around, spaz out and cry when brushed by a pinky. Little bro might be more like McFarland than a Shane Battier type, who is closer to how I’d characterize big bro.
000111, Tyler wasn't a flopper
occassion he may have taken a cheap charging call, but by no means did he earn his keep by diving. His brother is a little bia but he may have developed that mentallity by getting destroyed by older brother ATDT
I really only think the last one is a flop, fwiw.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
so leaning into and jumping off of Paulus was a legit foul?
as was the cheek graze? while there was contact, they were flops.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Cheek graze?
Maybe I missed it but it look like a good shot in the face to me. And I didn’t see any reason to think the Paulus thing was a flop. Jmo.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
you must have missed it
the elbow came down next to his head and grazed his cheek. there was no solid contact, and thats why his head moved after the contact, not because of it.
we can agree to disagree on the flop, there isnt a good enough camera angle to be certain either way.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Or you could use the Magruder film.
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 22, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, he got hit in the face. His head moved with the initial hit. Then he faked it a second later.
Big deal to embellish something that actually happened. I didn’t notice the second movement the first time I watched it.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
heres an easier look at it
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
its a secret
actually, its the same way i taught myself some HTML: copy and paste things you know, insert unknowns, and tinker til you get it right.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Mr. Miyagi would be so proud.
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 21, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nah, nah.
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 21, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That smiley’s girlfriend is very satisfied.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
by RollNole5 on Mar 21, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Hansbrough is such a pussy
Okaro shouldve kicked him harder
by FearTheSpear_1 on Mar 21, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's refreshing to finally see
a team run into a buzzsaw that is FLORIDA STATE. I’m tired of it being the other way around!
welcome to the thread, Gene!
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
"I actually felt like I had to vomit the entire game."
Being touched by a Domer has been known to have that effect.
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- Malcolm Gladwell
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- Jerry West
"...but last nights spanking of Notre Dame was perhaps the biggest win for FSU basketball program in many of our younger readers lifetime."
Wow. I realize two things now:
A) I’m old.
2) This win means even more to the FSU faithful than I realized. It’s certainly a big deal to me, but I guess I somehow forgot how long 18 years is. Perhaps I simply never thought we’d get here again, and I learned to be content with my memories. We’ll never be a basketball school after all.
I was a high school senior when Charlie Ward & co. made it to the Elite Eight, but even that finish was viewed by some as a disappointment. Nothing but good vibes now, and indeed it was a very long time coming. Go Noles!
And as always, kudos to Frank for his family-friendly, umm, often wholesome, good-natured, well-intentioned smack talk. (VCU’s mascot is not a turtle.)
We had four NBA players on that team IRC
Edwards (first round), Cassell (first round), Ward (not sure), Sura (first round). I think Dobards, who still holds the record for blocks, was the fifth guy.
Kennedy was the Mike Martin of basketball coaching. Year before the Elite Eight, he blew a 3 versus 14 first round game with his junk zones and a with-possession technical in the worst loss ever in history.
If I remember correctly, in the Elite Eight year we almost lost in the first round to Western Kentucky, but got really lucky to win by 1.
we might have two on our team right now
Singleton definitely, Snaer, if he meets growth expectations the next two years, is probably a second rounder.
James is probably a second round pick already but would have to fight to get a roster spot (teams like hustle guys like that and will give him a chance), I can see Kitchen getting an invite to Portsmouth but I don’t see him being on an NBA team’s radar.
james will be a 28 yr old college sr
not likely he gets much attention on teh next level
i think o whilte, however has the build and athleticism to be a tremendous prospect..
ah, i forgot he was 28
oversight on my part.
we could not disagree more
think White is right up there in terms of potential right now with Miller. i assume you meant Chris Singleton and not Shannon, but White’s game is more well rounded than Singleton and he was a much better first step. he progresses this way, he can be an early 1st rounder.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Definitely excited to see what White develops in to.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
He'll be 26 for most of his senior season.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
despite being 27/28 if he keeps progressing, I’m sure he will garner attention.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Oops
Should have checked, 92 team got beat at the Sweet 16 level. 93 team beat Western Kentucky in a very close game in the round of 16, not first round. Our “worst loss ever” occurred way back in 1989, our fourth (not third) seeded team was cruising along with 16 point lead with 10 minutes or so to go in a game where it was clear every player on our team was better than every player on the other team. Kennedy decided to try some Jimmy V junk zone variants, got a T with possession and fell apart on the sidelines as Middle Tennessee State rallied for 14 straight and eventually beat us by 14 (a thirty point swing).
I was on spring break watching that game in Marathon, FL
I believe I drank my sorrows away with a sweet, lobster red ISU girl also on spring break.
Gripper
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by Gripper on Mar 21, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Recently I reflected on the Kennedy era and decided we were too hard on the guy.
FSU was a football school with only so many resources to go around. What did we ever want / reasonably expect from our basketball program?
Now you’ve reminded me why we all hated the guy.
Eh. That would probably be overstating. But yes, there was a build-up to the end, and certainly Kennedy rubbed some people the wrong way.
LouC has a good take on the whole thing, and it’s a very fair analysis. I supported the team when I was there, and we were lousy. Losing seasons with McDonald’s All-Americans on the roster. There’s no doubt Kennedy could have used some more support in the early ’90’s. FSU basketball still needs support, but that’s a topic for another day.
also, that team had zero depth..
kennedy basically ran a nd 6 or 7 man rotation
and people forget that sura and cassel never really got along…
Yep, four first rounders on that team.
Plus Dobard. And Rodney Dobard was a very good player. As in I think he would be one of the best couple players on this team if you put him on today’s team.
That said, they were beat by a very, very good Kentucky team. Sure, that team had final four/championship talent, but it’s not like they underacheived when they lost to an even better Kentucky team.
If you want to hammer that era for only coming up with one half-way decent tourney run in that whole stretch, that’s fine, but I don’t think you can call that Elite 8 team underacheivers.
And the 92 team lost to a good Calbert Cheaney led Indiana team.
I don’t know what the atmosphere is like there anymore, but it used to drive me a little crazy when nobody was there against anyone not named Duke or UNC back then. Say what you want, when people don’t support this team in the last few years, you are talking about a top-35-40 caliber team, mostly playing unranked ACC foes.
Back in the early 90s you were talking about a top 10 caliber team, playing legit ranked ACC teams, and the support wasn’t great.
I remember a pre-conference game when Iowa State came in, if I’m not mistaken we were both ranked in the top 10. I think there were about 4000 people there. It was pretty disappointing.
I don’t think poorly of Kennedy’s on the court performance, I think they were generally better than what we can rightfully expect from FSU basketball.
But a guy with a different personality could have conceivably capitalized on the greatness of those teams and those players and really sold the program to another level. To take an extreme example, look at the crazyness of Bruce Perle at Tennesse. I’m not saying Kennedy should have done that, but had he been a little more of a salesman and media hog we might have been able to build something a little more lasting in terms of basketball enthusiasm.
Or maybe not. Nothing probably would have survived the Robinson years.
by LouC on Mar 21, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was there 87-91
I remember being at some sold out games against Louisville and Memphis when we were all ranked. It was big time to be on tv then (ESPN)
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
Come to think of it, that was the spring semester of my HS junior year.
Of course I’m still old, but the point is, I always forget Ward was a junior on that team, and he and Sura went on to lead the insanely young 13-14 ‘94 squad that foreshadowed the end of the Kennedy era. That was James Collins’ freshman year – he and I guess Corey Louis (along with Sura his senior year) were the “stars” of my time at FSU. We never so much as sniffed the dance my first few years there, and Kennedy was history by the time I graduated.
Objective and unbiased I think are the words you are looking for to describe me.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
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These are all great, Frank.
But, I have to say tricknole had by far the best quote of all…in the game thread.
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 21, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
What exactly was it?
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Explicit.
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 21, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah just looked it up. I was saying that a lot last night to my ND fan roommate. Best night ever.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Do you remember the Two Live Crew song in response to the governor of Florida (Martinez)?
The song had exactly one word and one proper name in it – repeated…
Celebration!?
I have to admit, when I saw the post-game interview with Ham and the boys, I was a little unnerved. We have a big-time game coming up, just came off of an impressive performance that looked like we meant “to do that,” and we’re out there dancing. It made me nervous, and tempered any emotion that I had left.
And then I watched the replay of White’s judo kick on Little Ben. I tell you what, I’m all smiles today.
I was pretty disappointed that most fans here were content yesterday with just having made it past the first round. Now, I must say, I’m feeling pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good no matter what happens. Most college ball players don’t get a chance to compete in the Dance at all, let alone win any game. Even fewer members of 10 have much of a positive experience in the tourney. We’ve now done more than just about anybody (including me) expected, and it should be fun from here on out.
Go ahead fellas! Laugh it up, dance that dance, get rowdy! We’re behind you all the way. Let’s go get some mutton!!!!
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
I don't know
We will actually be favored to make the Elite Eight. I know VCU is playing well right now but this is a rare chance and it would be a shame not to take advantage. We may be the only 10 seed in history favored to make the Elite Eight.
by ACC_Apologist on Mar 21, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
First time a 10 has faced an 11
And I remember the last year we won a tournament game, we were favored in the 2nd round game b/c or the typical 12/13 matchup (4 and 5 get upset) – but it wasn’t to be then.
Still – gotta be happy with what we’ve done so far.
But I understand being hungry for more.
All I’m asking is to extend our winning streak to six. It’s not too much to ask.
by CelticPride on Mar 21, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
so unless a 10 seed ever played a 14 seed
we are the only 10 seed to ever have a higher seed in the sweet sixteen. I’m happy we’ve gotten this far, but it would be a shame to beat A&M and ND just to lose to VCU. An elite eight loss to Kansas looks much much better than a sweet sixteen loss to VCU. It certainly is nice to be able to think of march madness as a tournament again and not more of a basketball bowl game
by ACC_Apologist on Mar 22, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
no doubt
I hate that we lose some of the underdog motivation, and on paper, particularly when you look at their opponents, we should win. I do agree that losing to them in the regular season would probably be a WTF? moment, but Friday will be different. Any respectable game we put up will be nice, even in a loss. Though yes, any loss to a Colonial team would be devastating, particularly after beating arguably the best team in what was considered the best conference in the land.
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
John Swofford
I like the way a 20-something year-old kid (Singleton) has to do John Swofford’s job for him. He should be out there talking about how the ACC gets shit on just about every year by the selection committee, but he’s MIA. Unless its Duke and UNC, he doesn’t care. He didn’t go to bat for VT or BC this year, just like he never went to bat for us when we got hosed. Don’t get me wrong, I’m no fan of VT, but they deserved to be in the tournament. And, as the post last week showed, that cost all of the schools $$. It wouldn’t be so bad if the committee didn’t do this to the league every year.
ehhh
VT bit the dust early in the NIT; BC was out first round; in light of what the Big Least, teams like Tennessee and Vanderbilt and USC have done thus far, I might agree with you if not for the early exits of our conference compadres;
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
How can you compare the NIT to the NCAAT?
Sometimes the best teams lose early because of letdowns they have from not making the NCAAT. We did it multiple times.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
How is Colorado doing?
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
Addition by Subtraction?
I’m pleasantly surprised with how the team played these past two games. I’ve been unable to see many of the games this year (5-6 or so not including both Tourney games) but to my eyes we have looked much better on offense since the Singleton injury. The team seems to be moving much better without the ball.
Do you guys think that chemistry has anything to do with Hamilton easing Singleton back into the game so cautiously or is it really all about keeping Singleton healthy?
PS-I just got my tickets for Friday’s game! It is a rare day that living in San Antonio comes in handy. Go Noles!!!
I don't think the problem was Singleton
But it meant the rest of the team had to run the offense by themselves and couldn’t lean on him.
And running an offense, is usually better than relying on a star who can’t create his own shot
by CelticPride on Mar 21, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
theres your answer
Singleton is a valued asset…to the team, not as the team. Snaer, White, and Miller all show the potential to be a guy that can create his own shot, but Singleton will never be that guy. mind you, none of them can carry a team now, but those 3 have the potential to be able to do it.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I love the idea
of waiting until we need to cool the opponent to put CS in; his D ain’t just hype, its the real deal; if he’s as quick after the surgery as he was before, he gives us a monster ace in the hole to stop a run;
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
I like Singleton as a "6th man" type.
Kind of weird considering so many regard him as a 1st rounder.
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
like a Bruce Bowen type of player
bring him in for stifling defense, and let him take the occasional shot. i can definitely see that. personally, i would draft that guy in the 1st if i already have a great 3 and 4, so he can be a backup to either (depending on the scheme).
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
lots, if not most, of mid-late 1st rounders aren't starters
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by norcal_nole on Mar 23, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont understand how the ACC gets shit on
Not that it happens, but rather why. We have some stellar basketball programs, and arguably 2 of the 5 most important as far as tradition goes. I just dont get it.
Bring back Peter Tom Willis— a true Nole! -FiestaNole
Goes back to TV viewership and size of markets
In a down economic year, you want to make sure that you get as much viewership as you can get. Ratings equals not only viewership but also higher ad revenue. Sustained succeess also increases the chance of obtaining a stronger bargaining position come TV contract renewal time, which also equals more money..
ND draws well in Chicagoland, St John’s, and UConn are good draws in NYC, Georgetown has DC, Marquette’s got Milwaukee, and Villanova’s got Philadelphia. Then there’s Pitt, Cinci, Louisville, and Syracuse, who are also good draws in major markets. WV is the other school BE that was in the tourney, and even they can draw ok in Pittsburgh.
Now compare that with the ACC. Duke and UNC have national followings, but after that? Clemson does ok in Charlotte, and we’re in the boonies.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
I'd imagine the ACC does quite well from D.C. on south.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
We do. But the markets are still generally a bit smaller down south.
DC, Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham and northern SoCar are all big TV markets to be sure. But Chicago, NYC and Philly are bigger still, and the Big East owns them. They’re all top-5 markets, absolute must-haves for maximum viewership.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
This tournament tells me that the Big Least is crap
The Big Least is crap, they have been over rated for years, and they have like 1000 teams in there conference, of course they should be able to get more teams in the Tourny. 1000 is obviously exaggeration, but the number is in the hundreds lol.
by TampaDivorceAttorney on Mar 22, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
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