VCU Roster Breakdown
Yesterday we took a cursory look at the VCU program and its coach Shaka Smart, focusing on what the media is consistently getting wrong. Today’s feature looks at the VCU roster, and how well they match up with FSU. Later in the week I’ll look at some film to add a visual perspective to our other information on the Rams.
VCU is another veteran squad – ranking 49th in experience. For comparison Notre Dame was 15th, while FSU is right in the middle of D1 schools at 188th. If you’re not familiar with how experience is calculated, it’s basically the experience level of your players that are actually generating minutes. For example, it’s Pierre Jordan’s 3rd year in the program, but due to his limited minutes he has very little effect on our experience ranking. These calculations – where metrics are dependent on minutes played – are a key function of advanced statistics, and you should always keep that in mind. Plus, it will come back later in this article.
The VCU Rams have two players who rarely leave the game in Bradford Burgess and Joey Rodriguez. Burgess, a junior, is a 6’6 wing who’s averaged over 30 minutes a game for his career. This year he leads VCU at 34.3. He’s the team’s best 3-pt shooter at 40.3% and its second leading scorer at 14.1 PPG. Six times this season he’s scored over 20. He went to high school with Ed Davis where they won back-to-back Virginia State Titles. Senior Joey Rodriguez should be more familiar to FSU fans as he went to Lake Howell HS where he was 1st team
Another name everyone should be familiar with is senior Jamie Skeen, as he was the cornerstone of
Senior guards Ed Nixon and Brandon Rozzell both average about 25 minutes a game, and have been nicknamed "the Energy Brothers" by Coach Smart. Nixon, another 1st Team All State of Florida player, is 6’4 and might be the best defensive player the team has. The 6’2 Rozell is another huge 3-point threat and shoots them at a 40% clip. He also never turns the ball over, and has a turnover rate lower than any player in the ACC.
VCU also has four players off the bench that average at least 10 minutes.
If you were paying attention to heights you see 6’9, 6’6, 6’4, 6’2 and 5’10 as the players getting the bulk of their minutes. This is about normal for a D1 team (they’re 149th in effective height), though they’re quite a bit smaller than FSU (25th in effective height). In fact, they’ve yet to play a big team in this tournament, having gone through USC (112),
Surprisingly, for a team that thrives on creating turnovers, VCU has played teams that take care of the ball to an 8-4 record, versus 3-6 against teams ranked over 100. There didn’t seem to be much interesting about offensive efficiency, 3-pt % defense, or defensive efficiency, but looking at height they were 2-4 against teams that were significantly bigger than them, and 9-6 against equally sized or smaller teams. I don't think there's enough data here to jump to any conclusions, but it's a nice trend to see that they've performed poorly against big teams, and against teams that turn the ball over.
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Getting me excited.
Now if can get Richmond to take care of that Kansas problem…
There's another one: SMACK!
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by norcal_nole on Mar 22, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
seems like we should also attempt to get skeen in foul trouble to allow us to totally dominate the boards
also – ot, but,
did we recruit any of these all-state guards from fl who wind up at vcu?
I'm fairly certain we never offered anyone on their roster,
but to be fair Ed Nixon and Skeen were really the only ones to attract high major schools. Skeen chose Wake over UF, and I think Nixon was a VCU/VT battle, but not sure on that one.
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by norcal_nole on Mar 22, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
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1-2 vs USF, Richmond and UCLA
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by norcal_nole on Mar 22, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Gameplan
So the way I see it, we continue with the same game plan that we used against Notre Dame (and I think we should use everyone game). Pound the ball down into our athletic big men right from the opening tip. We have a definite height (and likely athletic) advantage that we can and should exploit. This should also put their one big guy in foul trouble. If this happens, we can dominate. Guards should continue to attack the lane and either take it to the basket or kick for wide open threes (see first half on Sunday). With our athleticism, we have the potential to have a really good inside/outside game.
I have to believe the coaches are focusing on press offense this week in practice. If we effectively break the press, we should NOT settle to just get the ball across half court and get in our “offense.”. Attack the basket. We have better athletes and more quality depth than these guys, take advantage of it.
Inside-out game
is definetely where we should focus. James and Kreft need the ball more, but I am skeptical that we can replicate Sundays 3-pt shooting performance. It felt like we shot way over our aveage.
by DeaconO on Mar 22, 2011 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Having 4 days to focus on the press I think is key.
Also, any word on how Singleton’s foot felt after the weekend? Is he practicing full contact this week?
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Looked fine on the court ro me. He was making good cuts on both ends of the court.
Is it football season yet?
by NOLEcasterWX on Mar 23, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Skeen a big fan of The Lion King?
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Did Mufasa actually wear a crown?
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 22, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
VCU gets 11.2% of their shots blocked, 298th in basketball
I think they’ve got to huck 3s and hope they catch fire.
What are you glorifying with your life?
We get to play man-to-man in 1/2 court
They’ve simply got to press and hope it produces more points than it gives up.
What are you glorifying with your life?
We know they're plenty capable of heating up.
It is we who must SPIT HOT FIRE
by Nolesos Locos on Mar 22, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
As opposed to cold fire?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 22, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It is a Chapelle reference. Not redundancy.
Who are the five greatest rappers of all-time?
Dylon, Dylon, Dylon, Dylon, and Dylon.
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by FLpanhandler on Mar 23, 2011 6:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Doh! Inexcusable oversight. Self-imposed timeout.
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 23, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
you missed one? dylan cant believe it
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Get Skeen
in foul trouble and we should win
by DeanerNoleProphet on Mar 22, 2011 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
True, but to be fair
Almost any team is going to beat you if they hit threes all night long. You can’t much plan for that.
For what it’s worth, below is the “pro-potential” analysis of Skeen’s backup, Juvonte Reddic, from the site tjarks referenced for Chris Singleton analysis. Jajuan Johnson went for 25 in that game on 11-20 shooting. One presumes most of the damage was done against Skeen from this analysis. Reddic had 12 in 10 mins on 6-8 shooting with 2 boards and 2 assists. Judging by his stats on Pomeroy, it had to be his best game of the year.
“VCU: While Jamie Skeen is the Rams’ unquestioned go-to guy in the middle, I was more impressed with his freshman back-up in VCU’s twenty-two point pounding of Purdue. A reasonably skilled 6’9 225 forward, Reddic showed nice form in stepping out and hitting some 15-20 foot jumpers, while displaying a good combination of strength and athleticism when he defended JaJuan Johnson. Only a freshman, he has a bright future ahead of him at VCU, one of the premier mid-major programs in the country.”
Skeen had 3 fouls in that game, Reddic 1
they also played a 7’0" frosh 9 productive mins (6 pts, 3 Rebs). Johnson had 5 off boards, E Moore also had 5 off boards (although he had a terrible shooting game), so the putbacks should be there for us. From the boxscore Purdue didn’t play terrible in that game. VCU just shot out of there minds and played better. Purdue had 7 TOs for the game, VCU 4
JaJuan Johnson
He got at least 6 of his points in the last 2 minutes when VCU had a huge lead and decided to give up points while not wanting to foul. JaJuan Johnson had a decent game, but he definitely didn’t dominate them like the stats make it seem.
Yes, it was his 2nd double digit scoring game of the year.
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I don't think Skeen will be a matchup issue.
We play help D well enough that our bigs can step out to guard him. My biggest concern is their smaller guys hitting difficult 3’s off screens.
Process > Results
Good write-up Norcal.
Get ready for 1800+ posts in the thread Friday. The all-time record for a hoops thread around here. My predicition.
Why ask useless questions? How deep is the ocean? How high is the sky? Who is John Galt?
i see your 1800 and raise you 75 -
i think that the late start will increase the number of hammered posters who will flood us w/ semi-coherent posts
plus who wants to miss the chance to watch/post a sweet 16 game? may not happen again for some time…
i like the over…
you make a strong argument, I think you are right on going over the 1800.
there were over 1600 for the last game. If we do end up beating VCU, this site will have to access a defensive department mainframe to handle the volume for the regional final.
Why ask useless questions? How deep is the ocean? How high is the sky? Who is John Galt?
thats "Defense Department" mainframe.
Why ask useless questions? How deep is the ocean? How high is the sky? Who is John Galt?
hack the DoD servers for the sole purpose of basketball commentary?
sounds like the best time you will ever have…because you will “disappear” shortly thereafter
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Our defense has a way of cooling down hot offenses
Lets see if our 3s drop like they did against ND
by vickers8 on Mar 23, 2011 9:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe we play a zone so James doesn't have to guard Skeen's 3's.
Assuming Skeen is the only big on the court.
Don’t much care who guards James, I have to think we will get him every opportunity possible to get his.
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With how active we are as a zone, I wouldn’t say that we invite them to shoot 3s by playing it.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Why not play with a hand in everyone's face?
We can faceguard these guys. And there is bigs help for the short fast dude if he gets through the perimeter even against man.
What are you glorifying with your life?
I would much rather play man, but if CS can’t go and James or another big has to guard Skeen all the way out to the 3, I think the zone may be a better way to go.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
What if we went box and 1 with Singleton on Skeen?
I can’t imagine us doing this, because it would leave us open to 3s from the corner. But it would be an interesting approach.
by nolesblogger on Mar 23, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that would be an overreaction relative to Skeen’s abilities, and like you said would leave us more vulnerable to 3s.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Teams have lit us up in the past from deep in man to man.
I don’t see what the issue is.
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I agree
i say play zone. Our zone is different in that our players are essentially in man coverage covering a certain area on the court. We arent sitting back inside the three point line allowing the other team to light it up from outside. I’m concerned if we get into man against these guys we can get sucked into their kind of game which is more up tempo frenetic type of play where we can get lured out of position and sucked into bad matchups. Go with the zone we played against TAMU and prevent the dribble penetration by Rodriguez.
If we do that and avoid excesive turnovers, we have a real shot at winning. If the shooting game is on, we win big.
thats called a matchup zone
and it depends on if you play 2-3 or 3-2. the 3-2 will leave the elbows open, and the 2-3 will get you beat either at the baseline for 3 or driving to the lane. then again, man can get you beat in a bad 1-1 matchup with a good pick and roll. its all about playing to your advantages in the matchup.
i, for one, think a matchup 3-2 would work well in a 3 guard lineup, but if you substitute a guard for White, a 2-3 matchup would be better (leave James under the basket). the only problem with man is who to put on Skeen when Singleton or Snaer isnt on the floor, or if he is the only big on the floor at the time, but i dont see that happening.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Have to draw fouls, play inside the paint.
My worst nightmare would be a turnover prone FSU engaging in a 3pt contest.,…..
Play slow, play to the advantage in height and physicality. Hope VCU is out of gas after 3 hectic tourney games.
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by BigSpearDiplomacy on Mar 23, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions
Don't forget what they did against Purdue in the last game
Purdue focused on defending the three and VCU drove on them all night. Got a feeling Ham will adjust on D properly though. It’s the adjusting on offense that always worries me.
by Anolenamedslickback on Mar 23, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions
let the underdog party begin: espn pundit puts VCU at #2 (or 3? he can't keep his story straight) and FSU at #16, with completely contradictory analysis
“The thing that concerns me about ranking VCU so high is that clearly this team is very hot. That sounds counterintuitive, but it makes sense: The Rams don’t remotely resemble the team they were in the regular season, and they scored at a nigh-historical rate against Purdue (1.48 points per possession). They almost have to come back to Earth at some point, right? That said, I’m not sure you could look at the first weekend of the tournament and not totally fear this VCU team”
“I also think Florida State is a bit too high [in the other guy’s placing them 10]. If the Seminoles are making shots, they deserve that distinction, but if they revert to what they’ve been all season — a great defensive team with no scoring to speak of — they’ll be right back to square one.”
So are we looking at last weekend, where VCU did outplay FSU but not terribly so, or are we looking at the whole body of work, where clearly we are a step ahead?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/tournament/2011/news/story?id=6247585
thats absurd
we played a much tougher opponent – purdue was missing its best perimeter defender, they likely lacked team unity and basically backed into the ncaa, they essentially gave up abt 1/2 way through the 1st half –
vcu played very well, but their margin of victory and ppp were skewed by purdues effort and energy
nd was a better team coming in, and they certainly didn’t give up (until bh started crying on teh bench..)
“Florida State was impressive in dismantling Notre Dame, but it was more about how poor the Irish were in that game.”
blah. We continue to get no credit. Even better when we win Friday.
by thirdcoastnole on Mar 23, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Nearly every team we play has one of their worst offensive games of the season against us.
We’re just lucky I guess.
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by norcal_nole on Mar 23, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Sometimes its better to be lucky than good.
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Well put. Barkley-esque
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by BigSpearDiplomacy on Mar 24, 2011 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't really think you can say either team outplayed the other.
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Why am I wrong about this?
I find myself hoping that Singleton doesn’t get a lot of minutes in this game. I’ve got no analysis to back it up, but my feeling is that we’re way too stagnant on offense when he’s in the game. There seems to be less motion when he’s in (he seems to mostly linger around the 3-point line), he holds the ball too long when he gets it, and to no end except to occasionally chuck up a 3-pointer.
As I’ve said before, I haven’t been able to watch the team much this year (the poor offense and especially the turnovers just make me too crazy), but I did watch the last two games and was amazed at how “not so bad” we were on offense with Singleton (and Gibson) out of the game.
Ok, so why am I wrong?
I think that when he has played in the tourney we have still been fine on offense. All tourney we have been better about getting the ball inside to bigs, especially on time and from good entry pass angles and I don’t think that Singleton has negatively affected that. Getting the ball inside in this manner helps cut down on TOs and gives the bigs an easier time making a decision with the ball. I could do without Gibson because he always seems to be uninterested, especially since he got hurt and lost his spot in the rotation. Overall, I think that CS brings more to the table than he takes away, especially in this game having to guard a stretch big like Skeen, and I don’t think that CS was the cause of the offense’s problems in the past.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Singleton doesn't post up well
And Okaro White does. I think that’s the biggest difference. Singleton can shoot and pass, but he doesn’t do well creating inside, or even finishing. He’s inefficient as the recipient of a called play.
As for Gibson, he has moves to burn, but he lacks the strength to be more than a changeup at the five spot. I like him coming off the bench just fine, and I think with some time to get back in sync he’ll look a lot better next year.
Question: For those of you who want Singleton on Skeen, what do you propose to do with James or Kreft? Put them on someone shorter (and more perimeter oriented)? They showed against Notre Dame that they have the footspeed and savy to survive on the outside (I knew James did, didn’t know about Kreft). Ham will let them handle Skeen.
by Whelk on Mar 23, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with Okaro’s post skills, but that alone hasn’t been the savior to our offense. To me Gibson is superfluous with James and Kreft giving us better minutes. And as far as James and Kreft, we could keep them on Skeen or Ham wants them in and doesn’t think they can guard him, go to a zone D so we can maintain our size advantage on O.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
They can guard him.
This won’t be an Alabi vs. Wisconsin (I think it was Leur who shot him off the floor) situation.
Also, I’m skeptical about our ability to play that awesome zone we’ve shown. Not that it didn’t look great, but we don’t use it that much, so I have trouble believing we’re as good at it as we seem. Small sample size, regression to the mean, limited time in college practice, etc.
by Whelk on Mar 24, 2011 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
While watching "Around the Horn"
I was laughing at Woody Paiges constant pauses inbetween words, much like Christopher Walken, and i heard an amazing stat: The teams that take busses to the game have a higher winning percentage than those that fly. Somone should look into whether we took a bus or not. :]
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