Florida State Seminoles Football Spring Preview 2011: Linebacker
This is the seventh in a multi-part series covering Florida State Spring football practice. Previously, we looked at quarterback, receiver, running back, offensive line, defensive end, and defensive tackle. Today I'll review the linebackers.
FSU's linebackers have come a long way since last Spring. In essence, they received their first real coaching of their collegiate careers under new coach Greg Hudson.
The linebacker position is unique and probably the toughest on the field to play because of having both run and pass responsibilities on every play and coverage call. Players have to be smart, disciplined in reading keys, and with enough size to tackle big backs and handle linemen blockers, and still cover smaller RBs and TEs in man/zone coverage. STS.

Weak-Side Linebacker
Senior
6'2" 240 lbs
Bradham lead Florida State in tackles for the second-consecutive season in 2010. He's very strong in the upper and lower body, and good tackler. While perhaps not living up to his five-star billing as a recruit, he's been more than solid and really improved in his first season with actual linebacker coaching.
Specifically, Bradham improved his recognition and technique. The "will" (weak-side) backer in Mark Stoops' scheme is essentially another middle linebacker as he is not aligned on the line of scrimmage like the "Sam" (strong-side) backer is. Having lifted too much in high school, and being naturally bow-legged, Bradham does struggle some with his flexibility. FSU's strength staff has made it a goal over the last year to really improve his flexibility, with some success. If you watch him carefully, he doesn't get the same drive with one of his legs as he does with the other, instead sort of dragging it behind him. This is especially evident on kickoffs, though I don't know if he'll continue to cover them this season.
There seems to be a large contingent of folks that want to see him moved to middle linebacker. This is unlikely to happen because of Bradham's speed on the outside and the fact that his position is essentially a slightly-offset middle linebacker anyway.
This year Bradham needs to continue to improve his pass coverage and his reaction time. He's very fast in a straight line, once he knows where he is going. The key to getting there quicker is to more quickly identify the target. Bradham will play pro football, but continued work on his hip flexibility and intangibles will decide where he is drafted.
Strong-Side Linebacker
Sophomore
6'4" 236 lbs
You can say it. Christian Jones is a freak and the standout of the best linebacker class in the country from 2010. Out of Orlando, Jones is the son of 'Nole great Willie Jones and the brother of 'Nole Willie Jones, jr. He was widely regarded as one of if not the best outside linebacker prospect in the country.
As a true freshman, he played early and often. While tallying only 14 total tackles (9 solo) as a freshman, Jones flashed his supreme athletic ability while learning on the fly. A ridiculous combination of size and athleticism, he was raw entering Florida State and did not get the benefit of early enrolling. Nonetheless, he impressed the coaches and everyone in the program not only with his physical tools, but with his attitude as well.
As expected from a sophomore, Jones' game needs work in many areas. Perhaps the most glaring need is better technique, which should come with increased experience and time in the program under coach Hudson. And he needs better understanding of the scheme, which should also come with more time in the system. As the "Sam" (strong-side) backer, he'll be tasked with stoning the tight end at the line of scrimmage and setting the edge, controlling the C & D gaps. Jones' play will be key to the Florida State defense. Mister Alexander played fairly well last season, but Jones should be expected to provide an upgrade over him this season. Very few college tight ends are able to block Jones, particularly because he continues to add strength and mass in the weight room, going from 228 to 236.
With a frame to hold at least 250 pounds without losing athleticism, the sky is the limit for Jones. He should play this season at a minimum of 240 pounds. Enjoy him while he's here, 'Nole fans, because a guy with this type of talent is typically three-n-NFL.

Vince Williams
Middle Linebacker
Red-Shirt Junior
6'1" 245
Up until this point, Vince Williams is probably best known for two things. First, he is the brother of mega-recruit and 'Nole freshman Karlos Williams. And second, he suffered a serious back injury in his second year in Tallahassee.
Vince Williams is certainly more than just those two things, but his identify as a football player is very much still developing.
Williams is very strong, but not very athletic. He is, a prototypical big middle linebacker. He won't chase down running backs from sideline to sideline, but he will take on a fullback in the hole, causing the runner to bounce outsider where he is swallowed up by someone who is athletic enough to do so.
People expecting Vince to be a superstar (if there are any) will be disappointed. Those thinking he can't play a lick will likely be surprised. Williams flashed some ability as a freshman in 2008, though it was too little from which to make any definitive judgments. Then came the injury. Last year Williams made some tackles but looked awkward and robotic. If he's Florida State's middle linebacker, coach Stoops will be tasked with hiding his flaws and trying to use his strengths. What you see with Williams is what you get: a tough, physical run defender in limited space.
He is undoubtedly FSU's middle linebacker for the Spring, as sophomore Jeff Luc is out with a torn meniscus. Contrary to popular opinion, Luc is not a lock to beat out Williams for the Spot once he heals up.
The Backups

Weak-Side Linebacker
Sophomore
6'3" 209 lbs
Florida State wants big linebackers. If a backer isn't big and able to take on blocks, he better be both incredibly athletic and instinctive. Telvin Smith is both of those things. There is just a special quality about him. Most guys can't slip blocks like Telvin does, and his understanding of where the ball will go is just incredible for such a young player.
He hasn't played enough to make much of an evaluation of him aside from the one above. But he definitely needs to get bigger and stronger. He can't slip every block. If he were to start in 2011 he'd be in trouble. Teams would run right at him and when he went left to get around a blocker, the runner would go right, using the blocker as a shield. He is a very hard gainer, much like backup QB Clint Trickett. Smith came in at right about 200 pounds, and has managed to put on only nine. The strength staff is certainly doing everything it can to bulk him.
Barring injury, Telvin won't start in 2011. Instead, he'll back up Nigel Bradham on the weak side while continuing to learn the scheme and get bigger. He has a real shot to start in 2012 as a junior, but only if he gets stronger. If he does get that bare minimum size, his instincts will really show through.

Strong-Side Linebacker
Red-Shirt Freshman
6'1" 218 lbs
Terrell took a redshirt his first year. He's athletic and will back up Christian Jones this year on the strong side. Like Smith above, Terrell needs to get a lot bigger and stronger before he has any chance at starting, if he does at all.
Terrance Smith
Outside Linebacker (but playing middle for Spring)
True Freshman
6'3" 212
Terrance Smith was a highly-rated linebacker from the Atlanta area. He committed to FSU early in the process and stuck with the commitment despite heavy overtures from Georgia and Clemson. Smith has excellent speed and good athleticism. The coaches have been impressed with his maturity in the off-season program and are certainly pleased that he enrolled early. He'll be an outside linebacker at FSU, but for now is the backup middle backer because two of FSU's three middle backers are recovering from surgery.
Out For Spring
- Jeff Luc | Middle Linebacker | Sophomore | 6'0" 245 | Torn Meniscus
- Holmes Onwukaife | Middle Linebacker | Red-shirt Freshman | Shoulder
This is a good group of starters, but the backups are unknowns at this point, having not played much.
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Great Article Bud
On typical, how many snaps would you expect a backup linebacker to receive in a given season?
Total probably 2500 between the 3 positions.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
no
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
About 910 per position, give or take 50
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I know on DL you have to limit snaps due to fatigue
What do expect from our starting LBs? 600-700 snaps?
Depends on how much Nickel they play to be honest
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, yet Luc and Holmes back, and Jenkins arrives over summer.
I expect a good bit of Nickel from this defense.
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Slight misspelling of Holmes Onwukaife
I only noticed cause I couldn’t spell it at all the first 50 times i read it. Otherwise great piece. Our LB’s are the one of the two units I’m not worried about at all. Wish Telvin could get bigger. What could his frame actually hold if he were to get much bigger?
I never miss that one. Damn
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure what Telvin could hold
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I would think 235 at least at 6'3"
I know he’s hard gainer. Any chance Viloria and staff have him gaining slowly to maintain flexibility and athleticism?
Probably mid-220's. Derrick Brooks was damn good for a lot of years at that weight, and the defense can be adjusted to make up for those missing 15-20 lbs when it comes with his natural athleticism & freakish instincts.
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Telvin Smith
While your article is about linebackers, I have to say that he amazed me on the kick teams. I think he made every special teams tackle there was against South Carolina, it was unreal.
I hope he can put on the pounds to play but if he can’t, I think he can be a great 3rd down backer. Then, if teams want to run right at him, that’s fine. If it’s 3rd and 7 and our opponents are willing to run off tackle due to the “matchup,” I call that a win.
I’m hopeful that our offense is going to make people play from behind a lot, as well as, hopeful that our defensive line will be able to keep blockers off of him, as I expect better things from that group, as well.
Definitely could be sick in a nickel package
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on Telvin
He was a true headhunter on ST.
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by NoleThruandThru on Mar 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Can Kendall Smith appeal for an additional year of eligibility citing coaching incompetence? #damn!
Telvin can’t be 209 anymore (can he?).. from spring pics he looks like he gained some weight. When are official ht & wt released?
Hearing that Arrington Jenkins is expected to enroll in this summer… ESPNU lists him at 228 lbs, so he should be heavier than that this summer-think any chance he competes w/ Terrell or T Smith for PT as a backup?
Stating the obvious but Luc and Homles missing spring is significant given our lack of depth (and size).
Championship!
he was like 200 even last year
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
IMO JWJ is more likely to be this year's Telvin
although I’d like to see Jenkins on ST too.
Championship!
Telvin
Most definitely looked much bigger in the spring pics I’ve seen ….
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Yep, all the way to 209. Some think he was actually like 198 last year
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you expect them to continue cross training the LBs
or was that something Stoops/Hudson did just to figure out what they had last year?
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 23, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions
I would say the LB's will continue to be cross trained.
It can never hurt as far as depth is concerned
I agree with that.
I just haven’t heard anything about it in recent discussions.
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 23, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
2010
I see Bud has C Jones slated to start at the SAM in 2011 and Telvin Smith backing up Nigel B at the WIL for 2011.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t C Jones backup Nigel last year and T Smith backed up Mister.
Pretty sure jones backed up mister
I remember smith, bradham, and jones being on the field together many times.
No, he backed up Mister
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
So on passing downs
Due to the increased mass and depth on the DL I’d except to see less 3-3-5 and more 4-2-5. Who are the two we’d most want? Does CJ’s put his hand on the ground and run a DL of CJ7, Brandon Jenkins, Demonte and Dawkins? Just curious who we think would be the starting dime LB’s.
Jones/Bradham/Telvin. Take your pick from those.
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, didn’t see the CJ question. No, I don’t think he does that much. Tank and BJ are fine for that.
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
We are nicely multiple
Lots of options, if not overly deep at positions.
What are you glorifying with your life?
Agree that Vince might surprise some fans
Remember thinking during last year’s spring game that Vince wasn’t the most athletic guy, but he did seem to diagnose/react quickly.
Ask the Big Ten how you can make a living
out of being unathletic but consistent.
What are you glorifying with your life?
he seems to take a ton of tiny, choppy, indecisive steps that do little to help Vince arrive at his destination.
A variation of “happy feet”.
I remember coaches telling us to always keep our feet moving, but his don’t go anywhere.
Anybody else notice this?
by The K-Man on Mar 24, 2011 1:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I had a horrible nickname for one of our highly touted running backs
I used to call him “treadmill,” his feet would move but he wouldn’t go anywhere.
He drove me insane.
I’m sure anybody here can guess who I’m talking about in a second and a half.
Didn't take long....
I was so mad at him after the Emerald Bowl. Finally, he ran the way he was supposed to. Finally!
and he promptly returned to his old self in Miami
what a waste of talent…
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I'm not convinced
I’m not convinced that he was truly that talented. I remember when he got to FSU, his 40 times was anything but blazing. The nickname “Slowrenzo” came out. Not real fast, not real aggressive and not very physical as a player.
It was against NC State in 03, they got a pick and the defender just pushed him to the ground on the way to the end zone.
I think he passed the eyeball test but after that? And I hate it, because he wanted to be a Nole so bad and by all accounts, was a really fine young man.
But he was not a big, big time running back.
A billion yards and a million TD's in HS.
He had plenty of talent.
Tyranny is tyranny. Let it come from where it may.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Mar 24, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Luc?
How long until Jeff Luc is back at practice? is this a bad injury ? can someone elaborate on his injury for me. This was disappointing for me, as i was exited to hear how much improvment he has made.
Meniscus is very common to injure
The scare was that he had torn a collateral or medial ligament, which tends to happen in tandem with a meniscus tear. He’ll be good to go. Should be a quick turnaround, it’s just that it coincides poorly with the Spring football practice schedule. He’ll be good to go come summer.
What are you glorifying with your life?
Honestly
I don’t think he’s made that much improvement. He was the most hyped recruit with Christian Jones in the background but it appears that CJ is coming into his own.
Any ideas on why this is and what deficiencies he still has to work on?
mental side
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Didn't Luc EE?
If so, I’m wondering what parts of the mental side he’s not grasping?
by FOshizzleFSU on Mar 23, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Zone D is not easy to figure out; it'll take some time, but he's still young.
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Jones was always expected to have a high ceiling, and Luc had the body to play immediately
they both still have to adjust to the mental side and the increase in talent on the other side of the ball. Jones seems to have adjusted better to both at this point, which is a good sign for his progress toward his potential. but give Luc time, he was just a freshman. nobody but Jones, Lamarcus Joyner, and Telvin Smith progressed so well in such a short time, and even those 3 looked like freshmen at times.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
That video of LUC in BEAST mode was sick!
i was hoping to see him bring the business in a few games last year. Guess i will have to wait until this year.
Is it football season yet?
by NOLEcasterWX on Mar 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean this one
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
That's another food one but
I meant the one of the team last year in 2-a-days.
Is it football season yet?
by NOLEcasterWX on Mar 23, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Food?
WTF I hate auto correct! I meant good.
Is it football season yet?
by NOLEcasterWX on Mar 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You made me crack up with that
Thanks man (even if it was unintended).
How was it that Holmes injured his shoulder?
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In our 4-2-5 (nickel) package, which LB gets squeezed?
Williams, leaving Bradham and Jones on the field?
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I would say
Jones. I think since you already have 5 DBs you would want better run support from your front 6
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Telvin Smith
If he finds it hard to gain weight, do you think we consider him moving to safety?
No
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for these reviews Bud. They are very informative.
Too bad about Holmes, I’ve been looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table.
Any thoughts on moving Moody from safety to LB?
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
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by HaveNoleOption on Mar 23, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would he beat out?
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Not start, but I'd like him as Jones' backup
Based on the way you describe the SLB needing to set the edge vs. the run and matching up against TEs.
What are you glorifying with your life?
If he’s not starting next year I don’t see him in Tally.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Would he really Breeze out of Tally?
:-)
"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"
by BigSpearDiplomacy on Mar 23, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
agreed, nicely done
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
google "breezy hupp"
but NOT AT WORK
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Thanks for the good review!
I feel good about the outside linebackers but nervous about the middle backer position. As you said hopefully we can disguise our weakness there with different packages suiting the personnel on the field at that time.
FSU may be better in the Nickle over all.
Just have to see if the MLB can stay healthy and keep learning
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Who are the early LB recruiting prospects in 2012?
Bud? Anybody?
"He who hesitates, meditates in the horizontal position" Ed Parker
Ukeme Eligwe 6’3 210
Chris Casher 6’4-225 (committed) (DE 1st/ LB 2nd)
Eric Kinsey 6’3 215 (DE/LB)
Kwon Alexander 6’2 210
Josh Clemons 6’5-200 (ATH/LB/DE)
Dillon Lee 6’4 220
Joseph Jackson 6’1 210 (committed to UWV)
Solider: "Why is this godforsaken hellhole worth dying for?"
Captain Zapp Brannigan: "Don't ask me. You're the ones who are going to be dying."
Casher is not a backer. He will be 250 freshman year. Fowler could be.
I never considered Jackson.
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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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yeah, don't disagree in principle
just throwing out names really. I like Fowler as a dynamic DE, but agree size-skill-wise he fits better than Casher at LB.
Solider: "Why is this godforsaken hellhole worth dying for?"
Captain Zapp Brannigan: "Don't ask me. You're the ones who are going to be dying."
Would love Casher at 250 frosh. then no chance at LB obviously.
Solider: "Why is this godforsaken hellhole worth dying for?"
Captain Zapp Brannigan: "Don't ask me. You're the ones who are going to be dying."
I have a very difficult time believing that
Obviously, he’s a hell of an athlete but even if he gains very little weight from now until his arrival he would be about 6’4 240. I think there is no way he doesn’t outgrow the position
disagree with them
He is already 240
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Bud, what are the expectations for Holmes?
I know he is a very smart kid, but does he have a chance to make an impact for us? I really liked what I saw of him on film.
by fsunole23 on Mar 23, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yes
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Didn't Vince weigh ~250 at one point last year?
Maybe they’ve gotten him down to where he’s more flexible.
Yes
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Mar 23, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
big problem with a lot of our LBs before our strength and conditioning staff could get to them
Solider: "Why is this godforsaken hellhole worth dying for?"
Captain Zapp Brannigan: "Don't ask me. You're the ones who are going to be dying."
Jone, Bradham and Williams are going to be a nightmare
Plus a DL of Jenkins, McDaniel, Dawkins, and Carradine and a DB set of Reid, Rhodes, Harris and Joyner is going to be nasty.
Any chance we run a 4-2-5 as our base?
Or at least run it more often than anything else? I just want to Rhodes, Harris, and Joyner get as much playing time as possible. And I think Bradham and Jones are rangy and dynamic enough to handle the responsibilities of playing as “the 2” in the 4-2-5
by BJ the Bossman on Mar 24, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
4-3 is the heart and soul of our D
I’d rather have Jenkins, McDaniel, Dawkins, and Carradine stopping the run and sacking the QB than Joyner, Rhodes and Harris dropping back in coverage. We still have some good backs to deal with this year like Jeff Demps (UF), Mustafa Green (NC State), and Roy Finch (Oklahoma).
We’ll see it a lot because of how good the three corners are.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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