I found this week's ACC chat with Heather Dinich to be especially interesting.  Winning in football requires talent, coaching, and development.  But some fans just don't seem to get it.

In 2007 and 2008, BC was at the top of the ACC. When do you think BC will be back in contention for the ACC championship? You think Edsell is going to be able to take the Terps to a level the Fridge could not? Can Georgia Tech ever win the NC with the offense installed there? I.E. what is their ceiling?

The answer to questions like these is "when these teams start recruiting like elite teams" or "when the teams who do recruit well are cursed with awful coaching, like FSU had for the last decade."  If FSU and Clemson continue to recruit at an elite level, and don't have poor coaching, it's just not going to consistently happen for the other teams in division.  There is no reason to expect lesser teams to win division or conference championships absent a major talent increase.

The same goes for this answer:

Think it's time Duke fans expect a bowl game, though.

Really?  Based on what?  Duke is by far the worst program in the conference and the talent level is not substantially increasing.  

I apologize if this seems like common sense.  I thought it should be, but apparently for ACC chatters, it is not.  In some ways, however, this is FSU's fault.  FSU's lack of commitment to winning during the lost decade allowed lesser programs to win, and they believe they can do it again even without FSU falling.