Florida State Recruiting Board 2012
by Michael@TN on Apr 25, 2011 9:04 AM EDT
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PrintLet's talk Florida State recruiting! We know that Seminoles recruiting is a big topic with our readers. And it's only getting bigger now that FSU signed the #1 recruiting class in the country. We hope this Florida State Recruiting Board will assist you in familiarizing yourself with these recruits. We've linked free film on 99% of the players listed on the board. Watching the film is very important. If you want to talk recruiting with your fellow 'Noles you should know have some basis for your opinion. Don't just take the word of someone on another message board. Click it:
Florida State Recruiting Board 2012
On the Florida State Recruiting Board you will find big names including quarterbacks Jameis Winston, Zeke Pike, Sean Maguire, Chad Kelly, Bennie Coney, Patton Robinette and Greyson Lambert. Florida State will definitely try to land running backs like Barry Sanders, Jr., Jovon Robinson and others. Those are just a few of the notable names on the list.
But this is an unofficial board of recruits who are either receiving interest from FSU, have expressed interest in FSU, or are likely to do so in the future. It is our contention that it is too early to do a ranked board, and thus we are going with the watch list format until later in the summer. The players will not be ranked in any specific order until later in the year.
There are several reasons for this. First, we feel that the recruiting process is too sped up at this point. Written offers are not even being passed out yet, per NCAA rule. Plus, many kids are still being discovered, and more importantly, are still developing physically. At this time last year few knew about Devonta Freeman, who would turn out to be one of the best running back prospects in the country. Few knew about or thought Arrington Jenkins, Ruben Carter, Josue Matias, Tre Jackson or Sterling Lovelady would end up in Tallahassee. A lot of kids emerge in Spring and Summer. For those reasons, we do not want to put out a ranked board. Look for that later in the year, when we have more information with which to put it together. The board currently sits at about 150 players. We expect it to swell to over 200 after Spring football, and will then whittle it down as we receive more information on the players.
How many prospects will Florida State take at each position? We do not know. The coaches do not even know at this point. We do know, however, the bare minimum FSU will look to sign at each position. It's any excess that is up in the air.
We encourage you to watch the film and talk about the prospects in one of the Recruiting Discussion Threads (right sidebar). Follow me on twitter for up to the minute FSU recruiting info: http://twitter.com/MichaelatTN
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Work blocked it....*sigh*
I can’t wait to take a took at it once I get home though. A BIG thank you to the entire TN staff and recruiting team for all of the hardwork!!
Damn Net Control : )
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Michael
Looks great! Thanks for the info… one edit though… Eddie Williams is committed to Bama isnt he? Also… i dont remember if you have done this or not in the other threads (cant remember who does what all the time haha) but would it be possible to make a brief list of who you think, as of this minute, ends up signing with us (ie. projected class)?? Thanks in advance
Yep, Williams is committed to Bama
I updated the board. I really don’t like to do like to do a projected class before Spring Evaluation Period is over(May 31). The coaches are looking at so many players right now. Some of these kids that tell reporters they have FSU verbal offers don’t have a committable offer right now. I’ll do one between the end of the Evaluation Period, and start of the Jimbo Fisher Camp.
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Love this
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The vid on Mario Pender is amazing.
That was probaly 30-40 TD runs (over many seasons i’m sure). Where are his stats?
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
his stats are other worldly
Can’t remember the final totals off the top of my head, but it’s insane
I hear that he's other worldly.
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't leave me hanging by a thread! Let me know how I stand!
What are you glorifying with your life?
People will continue to make the competition claim against Pender
Which I feel is only valid to a degree. But he also doesn’t help himself because he doesn’t really participate in camps (which is perfectly fine by me). He isn’t seeking exposure or looking to boost his rankings. Favorite quote:
“I play in pads, come watch me on Friday nights in the Fall if you want to see me.” -Mario Pender
He went to a camp last July.
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I know, but it's not an every week event for him
as it is for some players and he was not committed to FSU last July.
I'm pretty sure he scored 30-40 TD's his junior season alone.
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Wow that is disgusting!
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Pender's stats
Ran for 2,261 yards, on 13.87 ypc for his jr year.
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Again...disgusting.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
try this on for size, starting with week 1
*11/144, 3 TDs
9/81, 1 TD
*15/344, 4 TDs (34, 31, 69, 46 yds)
*13/256, 4 TDs
*8/225, 4 TDs
*6/318, 4 TDs
31/102, 0 TDs
16/116, 1 TD
*9/141, 3 TDs
*11/144, 3 TDs
*9/201, 3 TDs
*13/94, 1 TD
*11/129, 2 TDs
12/110, 1 TD
“*” denotes blowout (won by 3 TDs or more)
in blowouts: 106/1996 (18.8 ypc)
in competitive games: 68/409 (6 ypc). excluding outlier of 31 carries, that number is 37/307 (8.3 ypc)
again, poor competition (7/10 blowouts the opponent did not score), but even in competitive games he played well
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
by nole07 on Apr 25, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
6 rushes for 318 yards
Is basically NCAA Campus Legend High School playoffs on freshman difficulty.
Ahhhh hahaha
That’s sooo funny and true. Every time you touch the ball, you just push up on the stick, and score easily. You have to actually try to get tackled.
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You can tell at least to a degree that some competition was garbage
This is no way is a bash on Pender. I love the kid. And happy as hell to have him.
But these stats
*6/318, 4 TDs
31/102, 0 TDs
Are 1 back to back games.. So it’s pretty obvious that some of those teams are not good at all.
Now I have no idea if the second team decided to play 18 men in the box against him. But the first one is noted as a blowout, the second one isn’t. I know it could be a million things. And 6 for 318 is sick in a video game or playing against the blind. But it definitely shows that some teams he played were pure bad. Funny thing is if he put up Half those stats in a higher division. Like 5a or 6 A. He would have an offer from every school in the country
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i addressed those concerns in the same post
but to be more clear: the first of the two games you mentioned was a 54-0 win against a 3-8 Lake Placid team; the second was against a 10-2-1 Cape Coral team; his team (Island Coast) was 11-2. clearly, he balled out in the matchups against bad teams and didnt do as well against even matchups. the difference? his OL looks like swiss cheese, and he still managed over 3 ypc against an even matchup. and that was his worst game of the season.
the last 3 games were in the playoffs. their records: 5-6, 10-3, 14-1. that’s right, the team that knocked ICHS out of the playoffs (by 6 points) was the team that went on to notch their only loss to an undefeated Trinity Catholic by 1 point. pretty good team, right? high pressure situation? and the end result of that game saw him rush 12 times for 110 and a TD.
great HS players have up and down games, and they are expected to blow up against inferior opponents and struggle a little against the better ones. he fit the bill there, and managed to have pretty good numbers against all of them. competition is a big factor, yes, but it also means the OL in front of him is largely 2B talent, so its not as though he has a lot of room to run. its always tough to project kids that play in smaller schools, but they have been know to have success. i see a lot of potential in Pender (size and skillset), and so do the coaches and recruitniks. give it time, with his new size he may surprise people this year. his ypc and yardage will necessarily decrease back to the mean, but he may have some more highlights that show some things you havent seen yet.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
He only has one move,
and it’s not even a move. He outruns everyone by cutting the corner, which makes me wonder if he has the physical abilities to find a gap, muscle through it, and give/take hits. He will not outrun everyone in college, but we have alot of time to work with him and teach him how to play football.
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's tough to say that's all he's capable of
I’d say he does what’s necessary, which happens to not be much because he and his team physically dominate their competition.
Definately glad to have him.
Reminds me of Jermaine Thomas.
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
But he’s more physically gifted in that he’s probably gonna arrive on campus bigger and is much faster. Has legit sprinting speed
he is apparently already 210, which is likely his playing weight
we will have to see what he does with it this season
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I wasn't making a skill comparison
just saying him and Jermaine love the outside run.
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
*loves*
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And he does have something you can't coach..
Speed.. The arsenal of moves can be taught by Gran I am sure.
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easiest way to stop that?
always have the playside LB drift out and force him sideline to the CB. judging by the numbers, they rarely pass, so it should be easy to stop a predictable runner, right? apparently, over the entirety of the season he never met a coach that could stop him. his worst game (31/102) still saw him rush for 3.3 ypc; unless he got most of those yards on 2 runs, it means he is tough enough to get yards without just outrunning guys.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
But does that not say somthing is wrong?
30 carries. They ran him alot, threw seldomly. He is easily stopped on the inside run, and will be stopped even easier in college unless he beefs up (i’m sure we’ll take care of that).
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Important to remember
Scheme and utilization will be much different. In those games he’s the most talented player on the field for either team. Often playing against a stacked box and the defense knowing he’d get the ball on any given play.
At FSU he will be one of several weapons in an offense that is not one dimensional. He won’t always be playing against 8 and 9 in the box in college.
He will also not be a run every down back at FSU
He’ll be splitting carries with Freeman, Wilder etc. He won’t even be the only back we take in this class. So that load will be much lighter.
they rarely throw anyway, its a run option offense
they ran 463 times and passed 71 times all season. the fact that he ran 35% of their carries (which is nearly double the next closest runner, the QB) means they already trusted him to carry the load, it just wasnt usually necessary because he hit the endzone in less plays than usual.
as for the inside run, watch the highlights again. he shrugged off a few tackles and busted out of a cluster to get about 5-7 more yards. hes already bulked up, and is tough enough for what he runs now. we havent seen enough to know for sure if he runs hard up the middle or not, but i dont think it will be a problem overall. he will never try out for FB, but he looks strong enough to hold his own right now. give him time with a good RB coach and some tough linemen on both sides, and he should round into shape nicely.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
In which film?
He is easily stopped on the inside run,
His OL is garbage in much of the film. It’s no wonder they run outside on sweeps and options so much.
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
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You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
I'm going to go ahead and disagree with the "only has one move" statement.
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Trick is right.
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Pender has great start/stop ability
Kid has vision and can cut on a dime when neccassary so that indicates he’ll be able to generate yardage in tight areas. Lower half is much more developed than his upper body so I think he’ll fill out pretty well. Fits the zone blocking scheme well due to his quick feet and acceleration (Should be able to immediately hit lanes as they open). My hope he that he can develop into a Lamar Miller (His closest comparable as far as size/speed ratio IMO) type threat for us in the backfield
by westcoastnolefan on Apr 25, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome.
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This is great, amazing job Michael!
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
With all of this incoming talent
FSU actually might be descent. But, they’re still just one player away.
by NoleySmokes on Apr 25, 2011 2:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Or your cornhole
Jk, you got me. Bobby told me to type that, his spelling isn’t what it used to be!
by NoleySmokes on Apr 25, 2011 3:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sarcasm?
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by Alittlemore_cowbell on Apr 25, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
We both like him a lot. His graded need a ton of work.
Please e-mail Michael with any changes.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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I alway LOL at James Brooks.
Some of you may be old enough to remember James Brooks. He was from Warner Robbins, Georgia, teammate of Ron Simmons and Jimmy Womack. The three of them, at point, were thought to all be going to the same place. Clearly, FSU got the best college player of the three, although Brooks had a great NFL career.
Anyway, story is, Auburn came to Warner Robbins to recruit Brooks. Brooks told them, “I don’t want to go to Auburn, I want to stay in the state of Georgia.” And it seems that the recruiter explained to him that Auburn IS IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA. The exact words, I"m told, were, “It’s right next to Columbus.”
That was good enough for James. He became a Plainsman, I mean a War Eagle, make that a Tiger.
“Auburn is in the state of Georgia.” Unreal.
lololol
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Apr 26, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Auburn is in the state of Georgia
I love it. I can see it now
“Sure son. Florida State University is in the great state of Texas…”
I missed him, updated the board with video
I’m one of South Lake HS WR James Brooks biggest fans. He has killed it at all the camps and combines he attended. I expect his recruitment to heat up big time, but he does have some issues with grades. Really good article on him
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=6409326
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What do you think of QB Steven Bench?
i’m liking his skillz
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On QB Steven Bench
Pros- Smart kid that can make multiple reads who has good feet in the pocket. Shows toughness that you like to see at the QB position, lowering his shoulder when running the ball. Can make most of the throws at the college level
Cons- Good, but not great arm strength. Has only ok height at around 6-1. Has good feet, but only ok speed when leaving the pocket.
He is also a very good baseball player, who is looking to play both sports in college. I see our staff looking at a couple of new QB recruits this spring to get them to come to the Jimbo Fisher Camp and compete.
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Ah, ok. Makes sense.
I became a fan of him after you talked about him in the recruiting thread and seeing some 1-on-1 clips, so it kind of caught me off guard when he wasn’t listed here. Great job with the list too man.
I don't think Wilson is committed to Miami. At least not publicly.
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
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Thanks tricknole!
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Updated
It’s only a matter of time before it’s official. Miami wants to see him camp there during the summer.
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for now
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Great job
one thing that jumped out to me is that Eddie Williams from Arnold High School. Arnold is actually in Panama City Beach not Pensacola
I was wondering
are we still in the mix for VA LB EJ Levenberry (sp)? Didn’t see him on the board. tia.
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E.J. is 2013, so he is not listed. FSU is def in a good position with him though.
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by Michael@TN on Apr 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Michael, this spread sheet is spectacular. Excellent work.
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by pasadenanole22 on Apr 26, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't think the boys @ Lakewood
Would appreciate you calling it Lakewoof
In other news, thanks for the great info!
Commit Update...?
OL Ty Darlington (line 49) is an OU commit now. No 1 rated center according to Rivals, yet he was the smallest OL prospect on our board…???
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Kid is very good
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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