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Drafter Strangelove: Or, How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Christian Ponder

Good evening, Seminole fans. My name is Christopher Gates, and I'm the head blogger over at The Daily Norseman, a site that I'm guessing a few of you have at least stopped by over the past couple of days.

Going into the 2011 NFL Draft, pretty much everybody knew that the Vikings' most glaring need was at the quarterback position. After two years of Favreapalooza/Favreageddon, it was time to go with somebody younger and try to let him play quarterback for this team for the next decade. Now, I was at a formal function on Thursday evening, and had no fewer than about half a dozen people texting me to let me know what was going on with the draft up to the Vikings' pick at #12. It's a strange position for the Vikings to be in. . .after all, in the 50+ years that this team has been drafting college players into the NFL, they had only drafted a quarterback in the first round two times prior to Thursday night (Tommy Kramer out of Rice in 1977, and Daunte Culpepper out of Central Florida in 1999). The last quarterback we took out of Florida State (Brad Johnson in the 9th round back in 1992) worked out alright for us, though.

I won't lie. . .I was surprised by the Christian Ponder pick, but by no means was I disappointed. There were quite a few mock drafts that had Ponder going in the mid to late-first round, due to there being a run on quarterbacks, and the Vikings weren't the only team in that range with a need at quarterback. From what I read after the draft, part of the reason that the Redskins traded down to #16 was because they thought they could still get Ponder at that spot, but the Vikings took him at #12 and ruined that idea.

(On a related note, the Redskins are apparently going to go with John Beck as their starting QB. Good luck with that.)

This might be the conspiracy theorist in me talking, but I think a lot of the reason that a lot of media types have been so hard on the Ponder pick has to do with the fact that. . .well, it's Minnesota. If the Vikings hadn't taken Ponder at 12, there's no way he would have been there at 43, and everybody that's killing the pick now would be saying, "Derrrrr, the Vikings should have taken a quarterback at 12 when they had a chance." It's just the way these things go with the Vikings.

(Full disclosure. . .prior to the draft, my personal preference for a quarterback to be drafted by the Vikings was Andy Dalton. But, Christian Ponder is a Viking and Dalton isn't, so to heck with that guy.)

But the more I read about Christian Ponder, and the more I hear from Ponder himself, the more I'm happy as heck to have this guy as our quarterback of the future. Obviously the man is incredibly bright and doesn't have any character issues that I'm aware of (and playing for a program as high profile as FSU, if he did have any, we'd certainly know about it). I think that of all the quarterbacks that went in the first two rounds of the draft, he's the most pro-ready. . .certainly more so than the three guys taken in front of him. An NFL playbook isn't going to be too much for him to digest and be ready to play football, and he appears to have everything that you'd like to have in a guy that might, potentially, have to step in right away.

I firmly believe that his potential pro readiness is a big reason why Minnesota took him as well. The Vikings have a new head coach in Leslie Frazier and a new offensive coordinator in Bill Musgrave. . .while many people might see this as a problem for a rookie quarterback, I see it as an opportunity. Rather than try to jam players into a system that they might not be equipped for (like our previous head coach, Brad Childress, attempted to do with pretty much everyone he drafted), Frazier and Musgrave seem determined to build their offense to suit their personnel.

They gave Ponder a neat new toy to play with when they drafted Kyle Rudolph in Round Two, they already have a good pass-catching tight end in Visanthe Shiancoe, their "Swiss Army Knife" in Percy Harvin. . .oh, and that Adrian Peterson fellow. I firmly expect the Vikings' offense to be built around a lot of two tight end sets and power running (similar to the Atlanta Falcons' offense, where Musgrave was a part of the coaching staff last year), and allowing Ponder to be able to use play action to keep defenses off balance so that he can find Harvin, Shiancoe, Rudolph, and (hopefully. . .fingers crossed) Sidney Rice.

So, that's my take on Ponder. With that, I'd like to ask all of you a few questions about your opinions on the Vikings' new quarterback of the future.

1) Do you think Ponder has what it takes to step in and be the Vikings' starter when the Vikings go to San Diego in Week 1? (Or, you know, whenever we start playing NFL games.)

2) What are your perceptions of Ponder's strengths and weaknesses? What kinds of things did he still struggle a bit with by the end of his Florida State career?

3) Should Viking fans be concerned about Ponder's injury history?

4) What are some of your favorite memories that Christian Ponder provided for you as a Florida State fan?

5) Has Ponder being drafted by Minnesota made you more apt to cheer for the Vikings (for those of you that follow the NFL)?

Thanks, folks. . .I really, really think that Christian Ponder is going to work out incredibly well for the Minnesota Vikings, and from what I've read here, it appears that a lot of you feel the same way. I'm looking forward to hearing what you all have to say about him.

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and giving CP7 a chance.

1) It’s never easy to project if anyone will be ready to start but I think there are numerous signs that Christian might be able to step forward. As they say in credit scores – not only is about the ability to pay but also the willingness. By now citing the usual criteria – finance undergrad degree in 2.5 years, MBA, working on second master’s, wonderlic scores, Fisher allowing him to change plays as needed, shows the ability (or intelligence that you have pointed out rather).

From a willingness perspective, numerous people that have had a chance to train and play with him can attest to his hardworking ethic. One different perspective that I may offer is that I worked on phd at about the same time Christian was at the College of Business. My advisor and cohort actually taught him in undergrad and graduate courses. While he was pretty quiet in class, there were no issues with performance and he attended much more regularily than you saw from typical student atheletes. That shows me this guy is willing to work hard at juggling whatever is neccessary to be good at what he’s in.

2) Some things that we’ve debated ad nasuem here at TN include that his primary strength is having successfully led (and not just managed) a pro-style offense, improved to become very adept at reading defenses, and is fairly mobile (re: see that Miami game in the rain). Surrounded by more talented (or reliable) receivers, great things are possible (e.g. UNC 2009).

From a weakness perspective, I think he has “too much” heart and needs to work on being more smart or mature. Tackling that Clemson DB on a pick, not learning to slide till late, and not knowing when to sit (after the concussion in the chik-fil-et bowl and missing a wide open TD) are examples. This is not a knock on him because that’s the primary reason I have been a big fan is his heart – and it translates at the college level. But this is the NFL we’re talking about, it’s business. Also, from time to time, at TN we’ve noted he’s stared down receivers, been TOO mobile and tucks and runs too fast, and I personally think that he has yet to establish the consistent long ball threat.

3) I’m no doctor but both the shoulder and arm injury seem to have been healed. No major red flags were set off in the exhaustive poking and proding at the Combine so I’m hoping everything is ok. Again as I mentioned above, Christian’s gotta be smarter, NFL players can hit hit hit!

4) What are some of your favorite memories that Christian Ponder provided for you as a Florida State fan?

I’ve pointed out a few earlier – UNC 2009 comeback, Gashing Miami in the rain (2008?), and of course you can’t miss UF beatdown (2010).

However, along the way, I’ve learned a lot about his character in watching the way he dealt with losses. Taking responsibility for the Fortson drop in the endzone vs Miami (2009) and also for the loss @ NCState (2010) when the rb knocked the ball loose after a great 2 min drive and when we had a receiver open in the endzone.

My best memory I think will be years from now, to remember that even through the last few down years under Bowden, that players like Christian carried Seminole pride and FSU football forward and left it for the better.

5) You can’t have me…. CFB only baby! :)

by StM on May 1, 2011 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry for the long reply

I really should have just said -

Came in a 3 star, left a 5 star…. first round baby!!!

by StM on May 1, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great reply

ditto to everything you said.

by FSU PHD on May 2, 2011 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great to see...

another COB PhD on here…my advisor had Ponder as well, and spoke highly of him.

by Nole@UAB on May 2, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know one thing for sure...

As long as Ponders starting, I’ll be awatching

by FSUNole51 on May 2, 2011 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I never have felt compelled to follow ant particular pro team. Now I do.

class of 99

by xWd40x on May 2, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel the same way,

always been a mediocre Dolphins fan, but never really cared, game would be on, but I could be doing other things. But watching FSU games NOTHING else can be going on.
I am starting to feel like watching some Vikes games this fall. Strange, never been up north, let alone Minnesota..
I think the reason some of us feel this way is that Christian came in to go to college, get an education, sit on the football team, and probably enjoy his time here. He came in under Bobby and left under Jimbo. There was little expectation and much turmoil. He torched scUM in his senior season, doing the little u in the endzone to finish the game off like the fan of the University that he is. Leading 24-7 at the half in Doak against hated UF at the end of a six game losing streak, he, again, called out two UF fans and did the chomp. He is a fan like we are, he wasn’t expected to do all of this, and we all appreciate what he’s been through.

by NoleRaised on May 3, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was shocked when they picked him

Ive been a passive dophins fan my whole life, but as soon as I saw the vikes had picked Ponder… I genuinely felt like a vikings fan. I immediately felt that overwhelming sensation to read daily norseman and see what was up with their oline, defense, etc. Such a strange feeling to want a team to win all of a sudden. I blame TN for my obsession with FSU bleeding into the professional game.

Its always been a long process. Like growing up with and having the fins and dan marino on TV, or my appreciation for FSU athletics growing from a reason to party to actually wanting to read about recruiting and players and… coaches?

Im pretty glad these teams are compatible because I have no issues rooting for teams in seperate conferences. There is a problem though… Im scared shtless of the Jets drafting EJ.

"I get tired of these recruiting services trying to say who is the best prospect in the country and who i should be recruiting. I really can't stand that NFL guy, what's his name? Mel, yeah Mel Kiper Jr. He knows about as much about football as a Japanese space pilot."

by NorthernHaze on May 2, 2011 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

understand your concern

but they have Sanchez and he is Ryan’s guy

by Bokata on May 4, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take a crack at this.

A) Do you think Ponder has what it takes to step in and be the Vikings’ starter when the Vikings go to San Diego in Week 1? (Or, you know, whenever we start playing NFL games.)
I do not only because I believe in CP7’s ability but also because I don’t think there’s a better QB on the roster right now.

2) What are your perceptions of Ponder’s strengths and weaknesses? What kinds of things did he still struggle a bit with by the end of his Florida State career?
His strengths are his passion, intelligence, and mobility. His greatest weakness IMO is his passion. FTR, his arm strength is not a concern. His passes will have zip as long as he’s healthy.

D) Should Viking fans be concerned about Ponder’s injury history?
No. I don’t think he’s injury prone at all. The reason his passion is a double edged sword is because he will put himself in precarious positions because he wants to win so badly. With a supremely talented team around him, I don’t think he will continue to do that. It was necessary here because we weren’t what we used to be. He didn’t have the horses.

Ponder > Locker) What are some of your favorite memories that Christian Ponder provided for you as a Florida State fan?
My favorite memory is his last home game. Losing to your most hated rival six times in a row is tough. We NEEDED to win. Despite being hurt (damn near injured) CP went out and gave us that win. He’s had better statistical performances before but IMO that November game summed up who he is as a competitor and will be his defining game as a Nole.

CP7) Has Ponder being drafted by Minnesota made you more apt to cheer for the Vikings (for those of you that follow the NFL)?
I will be watching and cheering for Minny. I think you have a good one at QB and I hope he gives you guys as many reasons to love him as he did for us.

My team doesn't have to be the best. They just have to win.

by Jamil Dawson on May 2, 2011 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

And thanks for stopping by.

I will be joining The Daily Norseman and defending CP7 very soon.

My team doesn't have to be the best. They just have to win.

by Jamil Dawson on May 2, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

5) Go Vikings!

I don’t follow the NFL much these days, but I’ll be following and pulling for the Vikes as long as CP7 is playing for them. In fact, I think it’s a safe bet that most Seminole fans just became big fans of the Vikings (with the exception of those already devoted to one of your division foes).

BTW, I was a big fan back when I was a kid and you guys had Fran Tarkenton and then Joe Kapp as your QB. My old man loved watching those teams.

by csfuu on May 2, 2011 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey, thanks for posting
1) Do you think Ponder has what it takes to step in and be the Vikings’ starter when the Vikings go to San Diego in Week 1? (Or, you know, whenever we start playing NFL games.)

He did a lot with less talent (especially receivers) on this team. The idea of Ponder with a full set of weapons makes me giggle a little. Not gonna lie. Will he be ready? He’s got as good or better a shot than just about any other rookie ever has, in my opinion.

2) What are your perceptions of Ponder’s strengths and weaknesses? What kinds of things did he still struggle a bit with by the end of his Florida State career?

Strengths: Immense character, intelligent, driven, absolute competitor (to a fault). Masters the playbook and reads the hell out of defenses. Drives them nuts making reads. I wouldn’t call it a strength, but his arm is far better than he’s given credit for. There are video clips of him throwing off his back foot on the run across his body into the end zone way downfield, and that ball had zip. He’s got an arm.

Weaknesses: needs to protect himself a little better, wouldn’t mind if he was a few inches taller (though he’s tall enough). Occasionally stares down receivers, but I kind of don’t blame him on this as his receivers were very sketchy at times. A lot of “bad throws” were blown routes, in my opinion and others agree.

3) Should Viking fans be concerned about Ponder’s injury history?

I don’t think so, except in the context of making some better decisions to protect himself. He’s not injury prone so much as fearless, and that probably needs to be dialed back a little. He separated his shoulder running down an interception and lowering the boom on the guy. The “elbow injury” reported so widely wasn’t even his elbow, just a freak injury to his arm that got misdiagnosed and aggravated. Both injuries have nothing to do with fragility, so no, I wouldn’t be concerned at all. Just pissed that you get him completely healthy now and wish we’d had him that way the whole year!

4) What are some of your favorite memories that Christian Ponder provided for you as a Florida State fan?

2009 was a great performance year for Christian and 2010 had even more potential. Without the arm injury and some issues on the O-line, who knows what kind of year he (and FSU) could’ve had? The Miami and Florida games (2010) stand out the most for me now.

5) Has Ponder being drafted by Minnesota made you more apt to cheer for the Vikings (for those of you that follow the NFL)?

Definitely yes, but I’m not wearing purple. :)

Congrats on the great pick, I think you guys done good.

"Yes, we won a national championship." — Fisher on if he had ever had a top ranked class before.

by GregJones on May 2, 2011 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

By the way

I kind of love the hoopla being raised over this “reach” of a pick. Ponder with a chip on his shoulder? Yes, please.

"Yes, we won a national championship." — Fisher on if he had ever had a top ranked class before.

by GregJones on May 2, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great post - just out of curiosity

Why was Dalton your personal top guy?

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on May 2, 2011 9:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I became a Vikings fan in 1987

Me and my roommates were attending FSU and ‘deciding’ on a NFL team to cheer for, that WASN’T the Chicago Bears. The closer teams, Atlanta and Tampa, both sucked too bad to cheer for then, but I made note that former FSU linebacker Jesse Solomon had been drafted by the Minnesota Vikings, so Voila! The 4 of us decided to root for Minnesota from that point on….

So color me Purple with Passionate Pride for the Ponder Pick!!! Can’t wait to see him in action for the Vikings!

by burkenole on May 2, 2011 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

^^Alliteration, for the win^^

A Pessimist Complains About The Weather
An Optimist Waits For It To Change
A Realist Adjusts The Sails

by NavyNole on May 2, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blah.

He shoulda said, “Paint me Purple…” for an extra P…

(Just kidding – good roll, burke! And I’ll be watching Vikings to see how CP7 does – and hoping he does very well.)

by Invictus13 on May 4, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the excitement

definitely pulling for the vikes now..congrats on the pick. can’t believe he’ll be throwing to harvin after what that kid did to us for years, but c’est la vie. the injury issues really were freak ones, especially the one this year (just bad luck) that never had the time to properly heal. notice how the shoulder issues from 09 weren’t really discussed, only that he “had the injury”? he’s had time to heal and i think should be alright. i just worry about the OL y’all have, fans don’t seem too excited about its future.

ponder is a fantastic guy, everything you’d want in a QB for your team. jimbo teaches a complex, NFL style multiple scheme….so ponder should be ready. good luck to you!

by JaxNole on May 2, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

1) Do you think Ponder has what it takes to step in and be the Vikings’ starter when the Vikings go to San Diego in Week 1? (Or, you know, whenever we start playing NFL games.)
Yes (short answer. others have covered more detail). Jimbo did say he’s the best he’s every had, and he’s put 11 QB’s in the league.

2) Both a strength and a weakness: The guy never wants to come out of the game, even when hurt. You obviously want this attribute, but sometimes you need to heal.

3) Should Viking fans be concerned about Ponder’s injury history?
No. He didn’t sustain any injuries standing in the pocket, or doing any routing QB activity. He got them doing thing usually reserved for LB, Safeties, RB. He didn’t shy away from contact.

4) What are some of your favorite memories that Christian Ponder provided for you as a Florida State fan?

There are many over the past few seasons, and I’m sure I’ve left some out:

98 yd TD pass in the “Comeback” vs UNC in 2009 (really, the entire 2nd Half)

2008 vs miami. Caught miami off-guard. Really the first game that showed his quickness and ability as a runner.

2009 Season: Ponder will be remembered as one of the guys that returned FSU football to relevance. He put the team on his back, and kept the bowl streak alive (longest in college football). If this come from behind victory doesn’t happen vs UNC, this streak is probably over.

2009 vs Georgia Tech: Ponder was 26 of 36 with 359 yards passing, 5 TDs AND LOST!!! And he connected with 8 Different receivers in that game. Add that to one of his strengths. He trusts his receivers and will throw to whoever is open.

2009 @ BYU

2010: Beatdowns of Miami and Florida.

5) Absolutely. There are other FSU players that have been drafted that I want to do well, but I don’t really keep up with them or pull for there teams. Ponder is a different story. He’s definitely a guy that I want to pull for in the NFL, and I will be pulling for the Vikings. After the pick I looked at my wife said, “I guess we’re Viking fans now”.

Keep in mind, I’m not a huge NFL guy, but pulling for the Vikings is no easy task for somebody that grew up a Falcons fan. I have fond memories of the Falcons come from behind victory over the Vikings to make it to the superbowl. That being said, I can’t say that I won’t be pulling for Ponder/Viking when they play the Falcons moving forward. Ponder is a guy you want to pull for, and meant alot to the FSU program during our rebuilding years.

It would be interesting to see the number of Viking jerseys sold in Florida this year.

by jasonole59 on May 2, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Let me take a crack at this
1) Do you think Ponder has what it takes to step in and be the Vikings’ starter when the Vikings go to San Diego in Week 1?

He may have to, and though he may even be good, neither the Vikings’ nor Ponder’s long-term interests are best served in that situation. As wonderful as I think Ponder is, he’s still gonna be a rookie.
A better situation would be to get a veteran QB with a similar style of play to not only be a stopgap, but also to mentor the young Ponder for a year. My favorite person for this would be Donovan McNabb-he’s a free agent, his style of play was similar to Ponder’s earlier in his career, and the Vikings could get him at a decent price when the labor situation clears up.

2) What are your perceptions of Ponder’s strengths and weaknesses? What kinds of things did he still struggle a bit with by the end of his Florida State career?

Strengths:
A) Very mobile. He’s able to scramble for positive yardage, yet does not rely on his legs so much that they are a crutch that hindered his development a la early-career Michael Vick. Again, I am reminded of early-career Donovan McNabb.
2) Has great mechanics and good arm strength-he’s accurate, on time and has a tight spiral. He can also throw the deep ball. This video is from 2009 and was a play that was called back due to a holding penalty. It shows what Ponder is capable of-a 50+ yard throw, with accuracy, that was made on the run and thrown across his body.
D) As everyone says, his intangibles are tremendous. Ponder’s got intelligence to burn, he’s very disciplined, studies film religiously, learns the playbook inside and out, and can read defenses like he’s listening to the opposing DC’s Telex.
Weaknesses:
A) The biggest one is that he can be reckless with his body. The injury that caused the shoulder separation happened when he decided to lead with his throwing shoulder while tackling a safety who intercepted his pass, and he’s never been good at remembering to slide at the end of a scramble. He absolutely has to work on preserving his body in the future.
2) Ponder has worked with a TE with catching ability, but he was nowhere near as gifted and productive as Shiancoe is. Until Ponder gets acclimated to the system, Visanthe will be pining for the looks he got from Brett Favre.
D) He did stare down some of his receivers this past year, but this is less of a concern for me. FSU’s receivers were a glaring weakness in the early part of last year and did not run their routes reliably. Many of the incompletions and interceptions from last year happened because the receiver, not the ball, was in the wrong place. That did not happen nearly as much in 2009 (our receivers were much better then) and it makes me think it will not be a problem when he gets to Minnesota.

3) Should Viking fans be concerned about Ponder’s injury history?

The injury history isn’t as much of a concern as his recklessness mentioned above. He did not injure his throwing shoulder twice as some of your reports say. Ponder injured his throwing shoulder in 2009 (the major injury), and the fascia surrounding his elbow in 2010 (outside of the elbow joint itself, and thus a minor injury). The two areas are NOT related, he has made a full recovery from both, and there should be no lingering weakness in his throwing arm.
He IS NOT “injury-prone” as some of your more vocal critics allege.

4) What are some of your favorite memories that Christian Ponder provided for you as a Florida State fan?

My favorite victories of his have got to be the huge victories over Florida and Miami this past year. Aside from them being our hated rivals, they were also total victories. Ponder, in particular, used all of his faculties to their fullest with impressive results in each of those games. Some of my favorite quotes from those games actually came from the opposing defenders-time and again they were in disbelief that they were so completely neutralized. Ponder read their defenses, adjusted his line’s blocking assignments, and checked the recievers into routes that took advantage of the flaws in their coverages.
The 2010 FSU-Florida game in particular bears looking at. Ponder completely dismantled a secondary run by former Cardinals DB coach Teryl Austin. It is perhaps his most complete performance to date.

5) Has Ponder being drafted by Minnesota made you more apt to cheer for the Vikings (for those of you that follow the NFL)?

It has. I cheered for the Tampa Bay Bucs when they took lots of Seminole greats in the late 1990s as well, so I have no problem rooting for teams who draft Seminoles. I also have no favorite teams in the NFC (I’m a Steelers fan), so I’m definitely ready to cheer on the Vikes on the few occasions they’re on TV down here in Florida.

"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County

"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra

by Dogrel on May 2, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

1) Do you think Ponder has what it takes to step in and be the Vikings’ starter when the Vikings go to San Diego in Week 1?

 I have not watched a pro football game in it’s entirety other than the Super Bowl since the strike season. But if smarts, hard work, talent and heart can get you there Ponder will be ready.

2) What are your perceptions of Ponder’s strengths and weaknesses? What kinds of things did he still struggle a bit with by the end of his Florida State career?

Don’t let him run the option and pitch He is fine as a runner though. If FSU ran the ‘Bone’ he’d be buried on the bench or starting at fullback

3) Should Viking fans be concerned about Ponder’s injury history?

Only if he is stretching out to get a first or touchdown and exposing his body. With the offensive weapons on that roster should not be an issue.

4) What are some of your favorite memories that Christian Ponder provided for you as a Florida State fan?

Others have noted games but in my minds eye is a replay of a pass that was thrown 6-10 yards down field that there was no other way for the ball to reach the reciever so he threw it underhand. Heart is a two edged sword and he has it in abundance. Three were several adlibs I remember that remind of ‘Joe Money’

5) Has Ponder being drafted by Minnesota made you more apt to cheer for the Vikings (for those of you that follow the NFL)?

Bet your @$$ it does and I already registered for the Norseman and have developed an intense dislike for Trent Dilfer in the last couple days. As well as some of your own.

I hesitate to put such expectations on the fellow but he most reminds me of Joe Montana

"Mel, yeah Mel Kiper Jr. He knows about as much about football as a Japanese space pilot." Rick Trickett

by Olbrannon on May 2, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Those who have responded ahead of me have basically said it all.

Christian Ponder is a man that in addition to giving you all of his talent on the field will never embarrass the Vikings or Minnesota. There will never be a better ambassador for your team and city than Ponder. If he had been surrounded with better skilled talent, I have no question that he would have won the Heisman. You (the Vikings) are very fortunate to have a player of his character and talent to represent you. Obviously, I am now a Vike fan.

by ed64nole on May 2, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

1. He should be able to be ready to go Week 1 he's a smart QB.

2. Strengths are game management, checkdowns and audibles, and play action. Weakness is arm strength but play-action with Adrian Peterson would give him more room to fit passes into.
3. Injury history should always worry football teams but he’s a tough guy.
4. Favorite memories are beating Florida 31-7 in his final home game and rushing for something like 140 yds against Miami in Miami his sophomore year…it really showed how mobile he was.
5. I am definitely a fan of Minnesota now that he is there.

by bobbysura on May 2, 2011 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

The funniest thing about Dilfer's comment is that having watched him for three years, he was possibly the best third down quarterback we ever had.

 We did not have the skill players to be a quick strike offense like we were in the 90s. This team’s offensive success was built on moving the chains. Ponder hit a lot of big third down passes during his career, especially when he had reliable receivers in 2009. I have no idea whether he will be a successful NFL quarterback, but I know for sure he is not going to melt when he has to make the big throw.

One other thing that has not been appreciated by much of the national press due the reputation of Florida State is that our offense was a mess when he took over as the starting quarterback. He was not playing behind another great quarterback as our qbs of the 90s were able to do. He did not have great skill players or a great offensive line around him and they did not know Jimbo’s system. Christian had to learn Jimbo’s system on his own and help teach it to the rest of the offense. Once Jimbo trusted that Ponder knew the system, he basically put the team on his shoulders. This was without a doubt Christian’s team. I for one will be forever grateful to Christian for leading the way out of the dark ages of FSU football.

by nolesontop on May 3, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Ponder has that Drew Brees quality ...

He has that CHARACTER. He’ll work harder, do more for the community, and set a better example than anybody out there. He’ll bring everyone up around him.

I think the reason most Noles absolutely love him, and are now Vikings fans, is because of what he did for FSU. Before Ponder, we had endured QBs who were lazy, prima donnas, bad decision makers, felons, and underachievers. Ponder came in as a legacy guy, a 3 star who was never supposed to start, and became a super-star. In the age of underachieving teams, Ponder stepped into a role that was never supposed to be his, and shined. He owned his leadership role, not just on the field, but as a representative of FSU.

I grew up in a Cowboys household, but I remember when I was younger I decided to rebel and pick another team. The team I chose was the Vikings. While I’ll probably still get depressed when the Cowpokes lose (it’s in my DNA), I’m sure I will legitimately root for the Vikes. I want to see Ponder – the guy who was never supposed to start at FSU, and now the guy who was not supposed to go that high in the draft – become a Minnesota legend, just as he is now a Seminole Legend.

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