Florida State Ranked Third In ESPN's Post-Spring Poll
ESPN released its post-Spring college football poll today. Where did they place the 'Noles? Where do teams on Florida State's schedule rank?
College football post-spring wrap - ESPN
1. Oklahoma Sooners (Previous ranking: 1) The Sooners probably have fewer areas of concern than any other team in the country, which is a big reason why they might be poised to appear in their fifth BCS Championship Game since 2000. Quarterback Landry Jones and receiver Ryan Broyles are back to lead what should be a very prolific offense, albeit under new direction after former offensive coordinator Kevin Wilson left to become Indiana's head coach. It appears OU will use a tailback-by-committee approach to replace departed leading rusher DeMarco Murray, and converted tight end Lane Johnson might have to replace right tackle Jarvis Jones, who will miss several months with a knee injury. Another big concern: All-Big 12 cornerback Jamell Fleming isn't enrolled in classes after reportedly being suspended for academic misconduct. If Fleming doesn't return this fall, it will be a big blow to a thin OU secondary.
No. 3. Florida State: Myriad injuries on the offensive line thwarted FSU's offense during the spring, but quarterback E.J. Manuel looked ready to replace departed starter Christian Ponder on a full-time basis. The Seminoles might also start reaping the rewards of back-to-back nationally ranked recruiting classes. Linebackers Telvin Smith, Christian Jones and Nigel
TerrellBradham and safety Lamarcus Joyner looked like big-time impact players on defense. FSU's conference schedule is favorable -- it doesn't play Georgia Tech, North Carolina or Virginia Tech during the regular season -- and a Sept. 17 home game against Oklahoma might determine whether it's a legitimate BCS title contender.23. Virginia Tech Hokies (Previous ranking: 22) The Hokies will have a new look on offense in 2011, with Logan Thomas replacing Tyrod Taylor, the winningest quarterback in school history. Coach Frank Beamer also shook up his staff, giving play-calling duties to quarterbacks coach Mike O'Cain. Thomas, a 6-foot-6 sophomore, had a good spring. Dynamic kick returner David Wilson takes over at tailback, after Darren Evans and Ryan Williams entered the NFL draft. The Hokies bring back four starting offensive linemen and most of their top receivers. The defense returns seven starters, but much of the line will have to be replaced. The Hokies' nonconference schedule isn't as demanding as it usually is and they play ACC Coastal foes Miami and North Carolina at home.
24. Florida Gators (Previous ranking: 20) If Will Muschamp is going to build an SEC contender in his first season as a head coach, the Gators will have to find playmakers on offense. Quarterback John Brantley had mixed results during spring practice, but the Gators were excited about tailback Chris Rainey's work in offensive coordinator Charlie Weis' pro-style attack. Former quarterbacks Trey Burton and Jordan Reed also adjusted well to their new roles on offense. The Gators suffered a big blow on defense when All-SEC cornerback Janoris Jenkins was dismissed from the team last week following his arrest on marijuana charges. Jenkins was arguably the Gators' best player on defense and top NFL prospect.
What are your thoughts?
Personally, I can make an argument for FSU being anywhere from 3 to 10. But because writers react to wins and losses relatively, and always want to validate their pre-season rankings, you should always root for FSU to be ranked #1 to open the season regardless of merit. Where a team starts absolutely helps to determine where it finishes.
Also, if you haven't figured it out by now, it absolutely pays to schedule favorably, as Wisconsin has done yet again.
I also think Virginia Tech is too low.
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now let’s get some offensive linemen healthy
by nole country for old men on May 3, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather be number one
We can’t be ranked “where we belong” because we don’t KNOW anything yet. Also, there shouldn’t be preseason polls at all BUT since we’re stuck with them I want FSU as high as possible.
My team doesn't have to be the best. They just have to win.
by Jamil Dawson on May 3, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I concur.
That is all.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
there shouldn’t be preseason polls at all BUT since we’re stuck with them I want FSU as high as possible.
conspiracy theory
I’m not sure anyone should be ranking us that high, it’s obviously an ESPN marketing strategy to drum up some early season drama as both team will certainly have ‘looked great’ in our first 2 weeks. Not sure that I actually believe that, but would be interested to hear what you people think. The good publicity is surely a bump for recruiting, at least.
by DownByTheRiverWalkinOnWater on May 3, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
And if FSU loses to OU they won’t fall that far.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Yes
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Why?
our offense is predictable and simplistic….
Championship!
by TLHWG on May 3, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yup.
It’s simply top ten and that’s becoming easier and easier to predict.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Because that was a Freshman talking
And because that quote just got posted on both Jimbo and Coley’s bulletin boards.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Even if the Sooners crush the Noles again?
Gripper
Tommyhawk Nation: Bobby Bowden is the all-time ACC leader in conference titles, conference wins, total wins, winning percentage, bowl appearances & wins and owns the longest conference winning streak.
They’ll fall further.
But if FSU gets crushed again, which is possible but unlikely, they won’t be unranked like they were last year. Starting high= forgiveness.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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would be a disaster
If we lose to OU then to Clemson the week after though
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
Still might not drop out
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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You think
at 2-2 after 4 games we would still be ranked? I would assume we come back in after a few wins. But I can’t see us still ranked with our 2 wins against cupcakes and 2 losses after only 4 weeks. Still be a million 0 and 1 loss teams. Not that we end their. But it could hurt. And worried about the teams psyche after that.
But this won’t happen. Just hate the OU then to Clemson back to back setup.
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
Yes, I can see that happening if we really start third.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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beachnole:
That was the exact same thing that i thought when i first saw the poll. It makes a lot of sense from ESPN’s standpoint, more people will watch a #1 vs #3 game.
by ArsonistSavior on May 3, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you mean...
…‘You people’?
So what is our potential ceiling this year all things considered? I think this at least means we should be ranked in the top 15 by the end of the season.
Saw Peter Warrick play once. The rest is history...
by polknole on May 3, 2011 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Question...
If we lose a competitive game to the top ranked team in the nation in week three how far do we fall? 6th? 7th? And who ahead of us at that point is poised to go undefeated the rest of the way? could an early, 1 loss FSU be in it at the end of the season?
Our fall would depend on how many teams won below us.
My guess would be somewhere around 8.
A 1 loss FSU would definitely be in it as a “best one loss team in the country” candidate. If crazy things happen, we’d have a shot at Sugar.
My team doesn't have to be the best. They just have to win.
Va Tech should be higher imo
Logan Thomas is going to be a beast. http://youtu.be/5fe6DQeiqe8
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He lit it up as their OLine situation was really quite messed up like ours was
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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If they end up starting the year that low they should be royally pissed
Real shot to go at least 11-1 with their ridiculously soft schedule this year.
>>---l>
Yep, I think 2 BCS teams this year from the ACC
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Whoaaa
Really? I certainly hope so, but I think the SEC has two spots wrapped up, and that would mean that a number of potential runners-up in the Big (former) 12 and Oregon or USC won’t be higher than us or Va Tech.
I think if we do as well as most of us are hoping (a guy can dream, right?) then VT almost has to win 11 games, which is possible with their schedule I guess.
"If St. George would have killed a dragonfly instead of a dragon, who would have remembered him?" - Fredric March, Inherit the Wind
There’s a chance. The Big10 having a conf champ game is a big deal.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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I think VT definitely wins the Coastal and goes at least 10-2
If they go 11-1 and we beat them for the ACC then it happens.
>>---l>
Don't tell that to a Cane.
They’re delusional, and their tears will smudge their sweet south beach fake tans.
With a name like Jimbo, he can't be wrong.
Courtesy of Gobbler Country
Day Date Time Opponent Prior Game
Sat. Sept. 3 TBA Appalachian State None
Sat. Sept. 10 TBA at East Carolina South Carolina
Sat. Sept. 17 TBA Arkansas State Memphis
Sat. Sept. 24 TBA at Marshall at Ohio
Sat. Oct. 1 TBA Clemson Florida State
Sat. Oct. 8 TBA Miami Bethune-Cookman
Sat. Oct. 15 TBA at Wake Forest Florida State
Sat. Oct. 22 TBA Boston College Bye Week
Sat. Oct. 29 TBA at Duke Wake Forest
Thu.Nov. 10 8 p.m. at Georgia Tech Clemson (Oct. 29)
Thu.Nov. 17 8 p.m. North Carolina at NC State (Nov. 5)
Sat. Nov. 26 TBA at Virginia at Florida State
>>---l>
I would do terrible things for this schedule
>>---l>
by DKfromVA on May 3, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
A true top 10 team would do terrible things
to that schedule.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Miami will finish 3rd in the Coastal.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on May 3, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
UNC, I think.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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my order both sides atlantic and coastal
Atlantic
FSU , Maryland,BC
Coastal
VT,GT,UM
I fear no man, for the lord is my Shepard, and his will is my striking staff.
Wow. I’d love to wager against those.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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watch and see
Paul will have them comin on soon.
I fear no man, for the lord is my Shepard, and his will is my striking staff.
Clemson will be better than Maryland in the Atlantic.
With a name like Jimbo, he can't be wrong.
I’ll bet you that Maryland, BC, and GT don’t COMBINE to win 14 ACC games.
If they go 14-10 or better in ACC play, you win.
If they go 13-11 or worse in ACC play, I win.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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bet
gentleman’s I take it?
I fear no man, for the lord is my Shepard, and his will is my striking staff.
I was thinking something more, but if you insist.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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ok?
you got my email holla at me
I fear no man, for the lord is my Shepard, and his will is my striking staff.
hey bud
if we loose an ACC game where do you think it is?
I fear no man, for the lord is my Shepard, and his will is my striking staff.
Clemson.
With a name like Jimbo, he can't be wrong.
after auburn comes in and tears stuff up?
Really?
I fear no man, for the lord is my Shepard, and his will is my striking staff.
Clemson will be favored. Auburn lost everything
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Auburn will not be a good football team this season
And it’s the week after we play OU. And Clemson has more talent than anyone in the ACC not named FSU. And it’s at Clemson.
>>---l>
Nobody thought last year that
Auburn would go undefeated and win a National Champ either.
But I think your right.
1 - 2 Jimbo's coming for you, 3 - 4 Gator’s better lock their door, 5 - 6 grap your crucifix, 7 – 8 Muschamp better stay up late, 9 - 10 never sleep again!!!
by Seminole4Ever on May 3, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
whips is strong.......
wording …. they might win but it won’t be a cup cake. They have recruited well … no doubt… good talent… no doubt… but … so does auburn and FSU…. NO DOUBT!!!
I fear no man, for the lord is my Shepard, and his will is my striking staff.
Indeed. By far the least-talented champion in my adult life.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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My friend up in Fayettville says..
Cam Newton is the next Peyton Manning…just with better mobility…and “stronger” arm. Buwaahhahaha
With a name like Jimbo, he can't be wrong.
...and a longer criminal record.
…and a supporting team that aspires to be as good as the Browns.
Ask him if he wants to put up money on the Panthers’ record this year.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Anybody that jumped on the Auburn Bandwagon..
Is gonna be hating life in 2011.
With a name like Jimbo, he can't be wrong.
worrrrreegle, hellya.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you Bud
there is no way in hell GT ends up 2nd in the division. Basically a QB with limited experience, defense still learning the 3-4 and Paul Johnson has to be the worst recruiter in the ACC. They are not bringing in much talent lately. I see UNC finishing 2nd in the Coastal and in the Atlantic I see: FSU, NC St, Clemson, BC, and Maryland. I think NC State will be better than a lot of people give them credit for even without Wilson.
I absolutely agree with everything you said.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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If Glennon lights it up
I would agree. I’m not expecting him to, though.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually think he will have a good season
not spectacular like with Wilson, but good enough for 8 or 9 wins like last year. I have some respect for Tom O Brian and what he is doing up at State.
What are you basing that on?
I’ve never seen him play. And he’ll be without the help of NFL caliber WRs.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me ask you this then:
Who do you have more faith in? NC state coached by Tom O Brian and one of the best LB coaches in the country, underachieving Clemson coached by Dabo, or Maryland coached by a guy that came from UCONN, who just fired the 2010 ACC coach of the year, and then hired one of the worst offensive coordinators in the country. I think O Brian can coach up Glennon.
I think TOB is a fine coach.
I just don’t expect a lot out of QBs with no experience and limited talent around them.
I’ve also been compiling ACC games’ play-by-play and it seems to me that their defense was very opportunistic. Lots of TFL/ sacks/TO’s. Will that carry them next year, again? Doubt it.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Clemson is a wild card for me. The Tulsa offense could be very frightening with the athletes they have if they get it going and they have excellent defensive coaching. We just can’t know right now.
>>---l>
Any offense and CU could be frightening.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Clemson lost McDaniel as well as 4 other defenders to the draft.
Not sure if they lost any others off their defense. You think their defense will be that good next year?
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Nope.
But their recruiting is very good, their defensive coaching is very good, their defense is usually very good. Just connecting the dots in general.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the offense takes a bigger step forward than the D does back.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Sounds possible.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
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10 years from now they'll brag about this.
Miami will finish 3rd in the Coastal.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Let me just take this moment to say how proud I am of Donna Shalala
She’s done more good for FSU Football as the President of Miami than we ever could have done alone.
Thanks Donna for helping us keep the pipeline open!
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
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"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on May 3, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
She’s definitely high up on our list of assets.
Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."
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its a christmas carol of a good time
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
First thing I thought
I think you always have to count on VT winning 9-10 games until they prove they can’t do it, and I think that’s good for better than 24th.
I believe Oklahoma to be AS ADVERTISED.
And Travis Lewis is scary. That is going to be quite a scene and game, when they roll into Doak.
With a name like Jimbo, he can't be wrong.
Doak is gonna be nuts on September 17th.
Hope its at night.
It will be
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on May 3, 2011 4:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Number 1 vs #3
College gameday at Talli, no way it’s not at night.
'see da broad ta get tha booty yackum, layem down smackum yackum...ho got ta be.... shiiiiiit!' 'early to bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise'
I'd think it's practically a given.
Only other games are Ohio State/Miami, Auburn/Clemson and maybe Utah/BYU (due to both having new contracts with ESPN and being in the pacific time zone). So there’s usually a game on ESPN or ESPN2 at 7 or so(?) and one on ABC at 8, right? Given we’d be the only top 5 matchup, seems a lock we’re on at least one of those stations.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
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A bit of a catch 22
You want to keep expectations in check, but you also need to be ranked as high as possible in order to keep yourself in a title hunt.
I don’t care either way, really.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman
I like it
Being rank this high means we’ll likely never fall out of the top 25 and that’s great for recruiting…It’s a win, win. Good teams meet expectations we might as well get use to this…
"Get ready to change people's attitudes of you"-Jimbo Fisher
by WinstonSalemNole on May 3, 2011 4:30 PM EDT reply actions
is the Oklahoma game a day or night game?
I fear no man, for the lord is my Shepard, and his will is my striking staff.
Officially it's still TBD, because they haven't released the first 3 weeks' game times yet.
Those times get released in late July/early August.
As nearly everyone else has said, it’s almost a lock to be on in prime time.
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I tried to defend my opinion of FSU being #5 or #6 preseason.
But uh, those ESPN commenters don’t get it and REALLY hate FSU.
Why would you subject yourself to the ridiculousness that is ESPN boards?
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That's because FSU fan are in college or employed....whereas FSU haters dropped out of school early to pursue their careers in unemployment.
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As someone who posted this earlier LOL
I think FSU is way too high. Top 10: yes. Top 5? I’m not sure. But definitley not top 3. Alabama, Oklahoma and Oregon are the elite programs starting off the year (…and in that order) based on personnel returning and coaching. I agree with the College Football LIve poll that put us #6.
Why is Oregon up there? They lost a ton.
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Michael James, Lache (Lake) Seastrunk become the 1-2 punch in that offense
Plus, CB Cliff Harris and DE Terrell Turner are back. Not to mention Oregon is in the PAC-12 North Divison which only means Stanford is a threat to them winning the North. Finally, they get Arizona State, Oregon State and USC all at home. That’s like if FSU got Clemson, Virginia Tech and NC State in Tallahassee.
Oregon lost 3 of 5 OL and 5 of 7 front seven players. And their stud LB who was supposed to come abck from suspension just got dismissed for violationg probation.
But your answer is telling in that you’re taking schedule into account.
Would you have them up there if it was just a power poll?
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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I really hate
when people use a weak schedule to rank teams high in the pre season. It should always be a power poll, not a projection of your final top 25 teams.
3 starting O lineman gone.
Not sure they should be all the way at three. Dont agree that they are elite. They have phil knight and schedule well. Agree with Bama and OU though. believe LSU is ahead of us as a whole.
You listed 3 teams that should be ahead of us.
Who else? I don’t think FSU will be what I would consider a typical top 5 team, but I can’t really think of 3/4/5 other teams above us.
I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.
-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 3, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Beside 6 is a better postion to be in
Oregon and LSU play each other so #3 and #4 will cause a loss resulting in #6 FSU going to at least #5. A win over #1 OU puts FSU either #2 or #3; but a loss keeps them in the top 10.
Kind of blows my mind...
That we are talking about FSU being #2 or #3 if we beat OU. When was the last time we were ranked in the top 10?
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I think he takes a step back in terms of offensive production this year
And I think they lose at least 2 in the regular season. They lost a lot of key pieces off of that 3-4 defense that they aren’t able to replace.
>>---l>
Agreed.
Massive losses.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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It will be tough to get 2 ACC teams to BCS with a B10 conf champ game now
If the SEC sends 2, it will have to be 2 from the west, as I don’t see any team in the SEC east making it to a BCS game.
Wouldn't that make it harder?
Since the Big Ten team that gets the at large invite from the BCS will have an extra loss now compared to previous years? Should be easier for the Big XII to get 2 now that they only have 10 teams but will Texas be good enough this year?
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'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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no
The Big 10 will almost always get an at large bid because they get good to great ratings and put asses in the seats. The same with the SEC. I mean its possible that a black swan occurs where the number 2 Big 10 team is ranked in the teens, ND is in the top 8 (gets their auto bid), a little sister of the poor makes an auto bid. But that is pretty much what would have to happen but since the likely teams to finish second in the Big Ten are teams like Wisconsin, Penn St, tOSU, Nebraska, Michigan St and Michigan (normal years) they will be sending that second team.
Honestly for the ACC to get the second bid I really think it has to be a top 10 FSU that ends up not winning the ACC. That is until either Miami or UNC can show some consistency.
I disagree on the idea that a champ game helps them. They already did the things you say they do, but now one team will have an additional loss. I do think it hurts and do not see a second Big10 team this year.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Who do you see getting it from the Big Ten?
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Whomever is the big10 champ
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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I agree with the last paragraph.
The best (not only) way the ACC can get 2 is if we are the at large.
As for the 1st paragraph, the additional loss has to make it harder to get an at large for the Big Ten. They’ll still have a good chance at receiving one if the Big Ten runner up goes 11-2, but 11-2 is obviously worse than 11-1, which would mean their BCS ranking would be lower, which means their chances at an at large bid would be lower.
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wouldn't the best way be if we were the conference champs?
Us and VT both go undefeated or 7-1 in conference, then we beat them.
No.
VT losing would hurt their chances of an at large more than us losing would.
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Given all else being equal.
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Jim I see Big12 teams really benefiting thanks to no conf champ game
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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I don’t see any team in the SEC east making it to a BCS game.
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Bet UGA is the favorite for the division
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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But look who they play from the west.
UGA: Auburn, Miss St, @ Ole Miss
USC: Auburn, @ Miss St, @ Arkansas
UF: Bama, @ LSU, @ Auburn
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Is Garcia on the team?
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He's in limbo currently
I expect him to be in the fall. Provided nothing crazy like Wilson to USCe occurs, of course.
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Is he practicing or working out with the team?
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Well since there's nothing official going on right now they don't have to answer that
Spurrier said last month that he wasn’t with them and that he’d be re-evaluated in the summer, or something to that effect.
>>---l>
The "indefinite" suspension's still in effect, so no he's not.
Spurrier’s understandably being REAL cagey about all things Garcia. The guy’s still a co-#1 on SoCar’s end-of-spring depth chart, albeit with an asterisk noting that he’s still suspended.
My take: The only reason Spurrier’s got him on the depth chart is because he’s not officially off of the team yet. Garcia’s never going to play another down for Spurrier if any other QB is at all ready to play.
He’s become the new Terry Dean: IF he comes back, he’ll be kept "in reserve", riding the pine for the rest of his career.
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Also, UGA hosts SoCar
Is SoCar better? Probably. But they might not be the favorite.
'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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I agree about UGA being the favorite in the East.
I think USC is the better team, but the schedule definitely sets up well for UGA. Murray looked great last year and I believe the addition of Crowell will help them deal with the loss of AJ better.
So question
Who here subscribes to the Super Saiyan theory regarding Okahoma —> Clemson? I mean, in this case Oklahoma being 100x gravity. I’m kind of keeping to that mindset, I think. Think we beat Clemson by 3-10.
Oklahoma is a great test and yet another example for Jimbo to use regardless if we win or lose.
by AmplifiedJ on May 3, 2011 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So Oklahoma is the gravity chamber?
I can see the connection, but remember we could get banged up against OU and also Jimbo might not be keen on the idea of doing “everything” to win when he knows we travel to Death Valley the next week.
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by freshcollegeboy on May 3, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Never seen anything that would less me to believe that Jimbo would ever hold backr
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by AMFKNole on May 3, 2011 10:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Me either
But that means we go into Clemson ragged out from a tilt with the #1 team in the nation.
Meanwhile, Clemson’s game with Auburn could turn into a cakewalk and be over by halftime.
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I don't see Clemson walking all over Auburn.
Malzahn is still the oc there, right? He’s a hell of a coach. Clemson lost quite a few guys on defense and their offense will be brand new. Clemson should get the nod because it’s at home, but I don’t see why people keep talking “blowout”.
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I defintely
see Clemson beating Auburn, but not in blowout fashion. Still, I believe it favors us to play them after they play Auburn.
by Matt Champion on May 4, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
All we can hope for
is that Auburn beats up Clemson a little, regardless of the outcome. Clemson will be working their starters at least.
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I want Clemson to play a really hard-hitting, down-to-the-wire game against AU
And for the entire OU starting O-Line to spend most of the night on Tennessee Street before the game.
I will NEVER count out Auburn......as long as they have an extra $200,000 in their budget.
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