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New Faces: FSU's 2011 Recruiting Class

The Seminole basketball team reached a new level of popularity during the regular season in 2010-11, finishing 3rd in the ACC and seeing one of the top-5 attendance jumps in the country. Then they capitalized on the momentum by reaching the Sweet 16 for only the 4th time in program history. Leonard Hamilton has mentioned on numerous occasions how having a star like Chris Singleton commit to the Noles makes it possible for other top recruits to come here. So now - due to the most successful season in nearly 20 years - is the time to capitalize on that, and if everything comes together then the 2012 class will be a program changer.

But what about the 2011 class? They've seen Singleton, Michael Snaer and Ian Miller all commit to the Seminoles. They just hadn't - prior to their commitment at least - seen FSU find success in the NCAA Tournament. So they committed with the understanding that they're coming in to push FSU to that next level. Do they have what it takes?

Star-divide

First, we'll look at who the new guys are. The RSCI ratings won't be out for at least a couple months, but ESPN and Rivals have both published their final class of 2011 rankings. Up first is the most talked about of the recruits.

TERRY WHISNANT

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TERRY WHISNANT espn* espn ranking rivals* rivals ranking
Cherryville, NC 4 99 4 103
6'3" Guard



 
   

Whisnant comes in with the well-deserved reputation of a shooter. He averaged 32 points, 8 rebounds, 5.2 assists and three steals. Had 61 dunks and hit a school-record 124 3-point shots; scored 40 or more points in three straight games. At the end of the year the 1A player was named Mr. Basketball in North Carolina, and he leaves Gaston County as the all-time leading scorer.

The good news about Whisnant is that he'll be the best shooter on the team from the moment he steps foot on campus. The bad news is that he played high school ball against suspect competition with very few legit college players. However, he has played well in summer leagues against better competition, but transferring his game to the college level will be a challenge. Never in his life has he had to make a jumper with someone like John Henson closing him out. But his mechanics are sound, which is rare for an FSU recruit. He'll just need to work on a quicker release and realize that the open looks he was getting in high school rarely exist in college. He'll also need to tighten his handle, and develop a pull-up game to compliment his shooting.

FSU has desperately needed shooters (211th in 3-pt %) to help open lanes for the likes of Mike Snaer and Okaro White. Whether or not Whisnant will get to be that guy next year depends largely on his ability to pick up the defense. Whisnant has made it known that one of the reasons he chose FSU was to enhance his defense which is currently pretty weak.

Whisnant chose FSU over several mid-major schools.

ANTWAN SPACE

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ANTWAN SPACE espn* espn ranking rivals* rivals ranking
Desoto, TX 4 70 4 91
6'7" PF/SF



 
   

Antwan Space is the classic Leonard Hamilton recruit - an athletic freak who has a significant flaw. He has point-forward skills in that he can use his size while slashing, has a very good handle for a wing, and has a solid touch out to the 3-pt line. What he lacks is consistent effort, and if that doesn't change don't expect many freshman minutes out of Mr. Space.

Transferring his game to the college level he relies to much on his size to shield defenders from the ball, and doesn't appear prepared for the level of weak-side help he'll face in the ACC. He also has nights where he settles for mid-range jumpers rather than attacking. Still, anytime a player is being recruited by both Mark Few and Billy Donovan, you know the kid has something. He could be another Uche Echefu (minus the injuries), or he could become a more athletic version of Kyle Singler, and that's why he had offers from nearly every major and mid-major conference.

Space's recruitment was filled with rumors at every turn, and at one point Arkansas fans were convinced their class would finish with either Space or a Ohio guard named Aaron Thomas. Which brings us to:

AARON THOMAS

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AARON THOMAS espn* espn ranking rivals* rivals ranking
Cincinnati, OH 4 71 4 56
6'5" Guard



 
   

Aaron Thomas might be the most intriguing player coming to FSU next season. He's from a tough neighborhood, in a tough city, and luckily he had a family who kept him focused and away from the bad influences. He comes in with the reputation as a gym rat, and spent 4-years at two different high schools developing from a kid who would get upset whenever another player touched him, to a grinding, slashing guard who's one of the more physical guards in this class.  He has NBA size at 2-guard, and is coming to FSU specifically because of Hamilton's tough love approach and his ability to develop players into NBA talents (behind only Duke and UNC in NBA draft picks during his tenure).

Credit the Seminole staff for staying on Thomas when several Big 10 programs walked away due to qualifying issues. Hamilton layed out a plan with a timeline and deliverables, and if he met those than FSU would accept his commitment, if not we'd walk away. And Thomas rose to the challenge.

It's tough to read much out of Thomas's senior season as he was the only player at Withrow capable of generating his own shot, and as such was double teamed every time he touched the ball. Still, he was able to show flashes of why several schools think he has the ability to develop into a bigger version of Miami's Durand Scott.

Note - that along with Whisnant - I have his position listed as "guard." With Leonard Hamilton's refusal to recruit pure point-guards, it's hard to predict exactly how he'll be utilized.

KIEL TURPIN

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KIEL TURPIN Juco
Normal, IL
6'11" Center
 
   

Turpin is another intriguing story. On the one hand he comes from NBA bloodlines in Kentucky star Mel Turpin. On the other hand he was a little used high school player who grew from 6'4" to 6'11" his senior season (at one point he was shorter than his 6'4" sister). He went the JUCO route and ended up across town playing for Lincoln College, where he led them to two consecutive National Championships while earning MVP honors in both Tournaments. For his JUCO career he averaged 15.8 points, 7.5 boards and 3.6 blocks.

Turpin still hasn't filled out his frame, and comes to Tallahassee needing to put on more weight. He's developed a very nice mid-range game, and can be compared to either a more-finesse version of Jon Kreft, or a less athletic but better developed Xavier Gibson.

He arrives on campus this weekend.

The Team

One thing you may have noticed is that all three of the high school signees are top-100 ESPN players. FSU now has 7 top-100 players according to ESPN, and 5 of them will be freshmen or sophomores. This is the legacy of Chris Singleton. Without him making the commitment to Leonard Hamilton then FSU would not be as attractive to high level players. Now FSU needs to continue their success in the ACC and translate that into NCAA success. A huge class in 2012 would raise FSU's talent level nearly to that of UNC and Duke, and above everyone else.

If you're interested in what the other 11 team's are bringing in, follow along at Run the Floor where I'll be previewing them all over the next two weeks.

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nice recap..

It’ll be interesting to see how the rotation shakes out with the minutes available from singleton and kitchen’s departure. Kind of hard to see how we see much of Turp with 3 senior big men who’s ability to play together last year was questionable.

by warrick9 on May 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

great write-up

been impressed with your work norcal. keep it up. Next year will be interesting. We showed some flashes of how we can play minus CS this year. We need someone to step up and assume Kitchens role. Looking forward to next year. 0.5 seconds away from elite 8.

by noledoc1 on May 3, 2011 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

AWESOME!!!

For all the shortcomings LH has as a gameday coach, it has been an absolute pleasure watching him build this program up from the ashes. Unlike football were FSU is a brand name that can sell itself, our basketball program has been basically nothing minus 3 or 4 great years spread out through our history. The rise to significance, while being slower than many fans may have wanted, is exactly what we needed. FSU is not Duke or UNC or Kentucky or Kansas or even Gonzaga, but we are on the way there and for that I am truly glad to have LH as our coach and hope the fans and boosters can keep this in perspective…

by FieldGeneral on May 3, 2011 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I like your comment except for the Gonzaga part.

Think we could be just as good of a basketball program as they are, if not better. I’m not sure we “needed” a slow build, and I am one of the many that wished it occurred faster, but I do like that it’s being built. Just hope we haven’t reached our ceiling under Hamilton.

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by tricknole on May 3, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You justified my post...

We are NOT the program that Gonzaga is, but we are on the way (perennial tourney team). What FSU has going for them that Gonzaga doesn’t is the ACC. We are now in the upper echelon of one of the best basketball conferences in the nation, a fact that carries a lot of weight. If LH and crew can sustain this momentum for a few seasons then we will have officially “arrived” as a big time program. We are not there yet, but LH is definitely pushing us there and that is thanks in large part to his ability to recruit,

by FieldGeneral on May 3, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you were putting them in the same category as UK, KU, UNC and Duke as programs we could never reach.

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by tricknole on May 3, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robert Carter PF from Thomasville - likely 5*

Stefan Jankovic PF from Canada (now in WV) – top 75
Shawn Smith SG from Jacksonville – top 50
Torian Graham SG from Durham – top 50
Cinmeon Bowers PF from Milwaukie – top 100
Kareem Canty PG from Brooklyn – top 100

Will likely see a couple Chicago kids slip in there with our new assistant

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by norcal_nole on May 3, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carter

is a beast and would definitely be a program changer. he would start at 4 from day 1 and make a difference. Kid has NBA written all over him.

by FieldGeneral on May 3, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's power guard

or purposeful guard. He’s a very deliberate player.

by evenflow58 on May 4, 2011 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i kinda hope we can shock the recruiting world

and pull in one of the big 5 centers in 2012. its going to be a talented class.

by B-rod24 on May 4, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice write up Michael

Whether it’s Basketball or Football taking a Desoto HS player is never a bad thing. That high school just oozes with athletes.

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by Michael@TN on May 3, 2011 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the write up

This is intriguing to say the least, considering we had Sura and Cassell (sp?) in a back court with Ward running things. The idea that we didn’t seize upon that, but may do so in this (with a coach who hasn’t yet taken us to the heights) is as exciting as it is unexpected. Hope the potential bears fruit!

by SolidNole on May 3, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Coach Hambone

When I was at FSU 98-02, our basketball was a joke. I couldve assembled a team at the Leach to beat those teams. Its been a pleasure to see Hambone turn this program into one of the elite programs in the ACC. He has put 7 players in the NBA draft, think about that. It is harder to get drafted nowadays with the inclusion of European, Asian, and South American players from pro leagues. I am really looking forward to watching Ian Miller next year, I think he has star potential. Go Noles

by bigsupervise on May 3, 2011 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I was there around the same time.

I went to games to watch the opponent. Of course I cheered for the Noles and there were a few incredible upsets. Seeing Monte Cummings play of out his mind against Duke is something I’ll never forget. Whenever I get frustrated with our offense, I think of how far we have come from the “Big Jelly” days. With that said, I don’t think past underachievement justifies settling for less than our full potential as a program.

Process > Results

by TBfisherman on May 4, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nigel Dixon, Kareem Shabazz, etc.

Those were definitely different times…

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on May 4, 2011 8:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks Norcal_Nole for ...

….keeping us informed of the hoops team during the off-season. Always nice to know what’s ahead …we keep losing some great talent each year but now are replacing with possibly equal or better talent…looking forward the next couple years of FSU basketball…

by SurfNole on May 4, 2011 6:53 AM EDT reply actions  

How would you grade out this class?

I still don’t think FSU is at a place where we can convince the more polished recruits to come to FSU, although we are getting closer, so what do you think of the job Ham and Co have done here?

by evenflow58 on May 4, 2011 7:32 AM EDT reply actions  

It's a very nice class,

though Ham’s insistence on not recruiting PGs is baffling (he wants NBA style do-everything PGs, though we’re not in the running for those types of players). We’re still not competing for the players that EVERYONE wants, and if that’s ever going to change it will be the 2012 and 2013 classes where several of the top players have already been on campus.

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by norcal_nole on May 4, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

he did recruit Loucks, a 4* PG

if thats the caliber of true PG we can get, i will take the combo every time

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 4, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

but thats my point

if the best we can do is a borderline D-1 PG, i want the combo instead.

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 5, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think its more of what we can get

we can get, and have gotten, a few true PGs, but they have all been of the lesser talent variety. i dont think we can get the better ones. maybe we are on the cusp of getting them now, but i think we just never had the ability to do better

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 5, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

how big is the 2012 class expected to be, and what should it look like?

we are losing 5 players, 2 G (Loucks and Dulkys) and 3 F/C (Gibson, James, and Kreft). i see we brought in 2 SFs and 3 guards over the past 2 classes, and added 3 JUCO bigs over the same time. problem is, our bigs will be mostly gone after next season, leaving only Shannon and Turpin (and the 2 SFs) under the basket. is the plan to go this small, or are we looking at taking 2-3 bigs in this class with the hopes that at least 2 can contribute solid minutes right away?

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 4, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

At least 5,

and the 2012 class is loaded with talented bigs.

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by norcal_nole on May 4, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The players we've got are a little underrated

because this recruiting class was filled with studs. There are at least 7 guys who could be eventual nba all stars (though history shows that many will not live up to their potential) and a whole lot of nba talent filling out the top 50. A spot in the 70’s this year would be a lot higher if they were ranked in last years class.

by B-rod24 on May 4, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

That's a good point,

and 2012 and 2013 are both looking loaded at this point as well, after down years in 09 and 10.

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by norcal_nole on May 4, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait to see how Thomas and Whisnant adjust

Turpin is really intriguing too

We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.

by NoleThruandThru on May 4, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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