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Delmarick "Mario" Pender Highlights & Scouting Report

With the start of Spring football it is time to hit the film room to break down Florida State's current commits and recruiting targets. At TomahawkNation we like to show specific examples of what we look for in a prospects film, not just listing the prospects strengths and weaknesses. We begin our film breakdown series with of one of Florida State's first commits, Island Coast running back Delmarick "Mario" Pender.  Mario Pender is from Island Coast High School in Cape Coral, Florida.  He committed to Florida State in October of 2010.

The first thing that comes to mind when thinking of Pender is speed, but there is much more to his game.

Player Comparison: Jamaal Charles/Felix Jones

Strengths: One of the more sudden and quicker backs in the nation, Pender is an explosive, game changing type of runner with the ability to score from anywhere on the field. Pender is a quick twitched athlete that shows the elite speed to outrun defenders who have a angle on him. But don't make the mistake of labeling him just a speed back, as Pender has no problem cutting it inside to run over a defender as shown in the :45 second mark, 1:10 mark, and 6:56 mark in the highlight below. One quality that we like to see in a running back is consistently making the first man miss, which Pender does with his outstanding agility shown in the 1:23 mark, 1:50 mark, 2:24 mark, 3:52 mark, 5:10 mark, and 6:43 highlight mark . He also does a great job to square up his shoulders and accelerate north-south instead of running east-west like many running backs with his speed do.  Pender has the ideal frame for the running back position. He has great body composition for the position with his thick, compact build and low center of gravity. Pender should be able to carry 205-210lbs without losing that much speed.

Weaknesses: Not many. We would like to see Pender catch the ball out of the backfield more to be able to evaluate his hands. Due to the offense that Island Coast runs Pender doesn't get many opportunities to catch the ball. In the few catches that we did see Pender make we would like to see him do a better job of catching the ball away from his body. Another area of Pender's game that needs work is his patience to set up his blockers(1:10 mark, 5:43 mark), which is a problem for most prospects with Pender's speed. He also needs to work on switching the ball to his outside shoulder closest to the sideline as shown in the :08 mark, 3:06 mark, 3:22 mark, and 5:02 mark.  We'd also like to see Pender become more mature.

It's also appropriate to note that Pender's competition in class 2B is, for the most part, rather poor.  That makes it more difficult to evaluate him.  Clearly, he does some things in high school that he will not be able to pull off in college.

Final thoughts: Mario Pender is an elite running back with the speed that makes running back coaches drool. He might be one of the most physically talented prospects that running back coach Eddie Gran has ever worked with, which is saying something as Gran has double-digit backs in the league. He combines 10.6 100 meter speed in a potential  200+ pound frame.  If he keeps his head on straight, works hard, and listens to coach Gran, he has the talent to play in the NFL.

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Physically, he’s way faster than all of them and should be just as strong as most.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

early playing time ....

in his immediate future upon enrolling and true fresh season?

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by pitbornagain on May 4, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think his speed gets him on the field for at least a couple of touches a game if he does the work he needs to.

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by Michael@TN on May 4, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he keeps his head on straight. To me, that is a major if.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

He seems like he cuts off his inside foot instead of his outside foot

it seems like Freeman would be more effective in traffic (between the tackles) with his plant the outside foot and go running style – but you gotta like Pender in the open field.

by 93noleman on May 4, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I expect Devonta to be FSU’s star runner. If he does, Wilder can go be a star at linebacker.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

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by pitbornagain on May 4, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

With Luc getting hurt and Steward going to clemson do you think that has any impact on WIlder being more likely to play linebacker?

by Blake Davis on May 4, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think...

It’s between JWJ and the needs of the staff….. they are going to give him a shot… as promised… but his feeling smight turn toward defense when he see’s the depth of his wants.

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by pitbornagain on May 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really wanted to see

Wilder carry the ball on 3rd & short… don’t think anyone can do it better than he can.

Championship!

by TLHWG on May 4, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny....

he has a J. Thomas way about his running… am I the only one who notices it?

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by pitbornagain on May 4, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see it

Thomas has more of a upright running style. jmo

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by Michael@TN on May 4, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

the way...

he shifts… and retracts, and then accelerates.

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by pitbornagain on May 4, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

look almost a fumble and recovery

right around 3:07 to 3:10

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by pitbornagain on May 4, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Parts of his game resemble him, but I think there are better comparisons out there. Also Pender has freakish speed which Thomas doesn’t imo. Thomas ran around a 11.6 100 meters back in high school, a full second slower then Pender.

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by Michael@TN on May 4, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You say strong as most

I’m guessing that doesnt include JWJ? becasue that would be amazing if he is that strong

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll easily be as strong as Jermaine or Chris. Probably not JWJ or Ty Jones. Maybe equal to Demonte.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok thanks Bud

He definitely looks like he can be a stud, and also I think that Chris Thompson’s strength is sometimes underrated. I’m definitely excited about him thats for sure. You said earlier that its a major if if he keeps his head on straight. Is he at risk of not qualifying?

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

the future is looking good for the NOLES!!!!

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by pitbornagain on May 4, 2011 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

2B

I don’t understand why the state divided up both 2A and 1A in football, makes no sense? All other sports and the higher classes have twice the playoff field, why didn’t they just do this for the lower classes? I’ve heard that its not fair and there are too many teams, but i’m not buying. Hopefully we’re overthinking the lack of competition theory and he’s still a hoss?

FSU, home of the Bandit! Enough said!

by cmk07c on May 4, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I won a 1A state championship in high school

And all of our games that werent district games were against bigger schools from 2A up to sometimes 4A schools. I can tell you that in my experience there was a noticeable difference in the talent level with each different level. And this was in 2005 so it wasnt that long ago.

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Completely off topic

But this made me think about how im still pissed that fsu didnt take our best player off that team. He was runner up to Marcus Sims(remember him??? lol) for 1A player of the year. I wish fsu would have taken him and not Marcus lol

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

who was that?

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 4, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ash Parker from Port St Joe high school

I am 200% convinced the only reason Marcus Sims won that award was because of his brother. He was very underrated coming out of high school, but he was a gamer. He did everything that was asked of him at 6’1" 200 he played S/RB/WR/KR. He had the talent to play at fsu and they should have offered him, but I dont understand to much of what was going on then at fsu lol

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, he looks fast, but I dont see what all the excitment is about

take a look at the clip at the 3:15 mark – he makes the first 5 guys miss and then breaks 5 more tackles – but the last guy tackles him – I just dont see how that translates into an effective running back at the next level :)

by 93noleman on May 4, 2011 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Both his and 93noleman's were sarcastic.

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not like he's Maximus Awesomus.

I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.

-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 5, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

My question is....

Bud how is the talent down there in that classification? This kinda reminds me of Nick Maddox’s highlight tape. I remember sitting down with him and watching it one summer while I was in school and saying “where are the black kids on D”?

by naylort on May 4, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s not great. Island Coast had four or five D1 kids last year and I doubt they played that many combined through the entire schedule.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I gathered. Outside of that, how do you project this kid at the next level? He definitely looks like he has raw talent to be molded into a talented back once our coaching staff / strength and conditioning guys get a hold of him.

by naylort on May 4, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

This link has them in division 6A next year.

So we will see how he does against better competition.
http://www.fhsaa.org/sites/default/files/attachments/2010/12/08/node-3266/fb_11-12.html#Anchor-23240

And this link talks about changing to 1A through 8A.
http://www.fhsaa.org/news/2010/1208

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I believe Island Coast faced some of those 6A teams last year.

So it’s not like he played nothing but schools with only 20 guys on the roster.

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, it has them as 7A

which will be an eye opening experience for the entire team

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 5, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

nevermind, missed the divider, it was 6A

but the point remains, big difference

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 5, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly, but they played several of the teams in their new District last year since they are nearby schools.

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by tricknole on May 5, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Significant.

Pender had to attend the alternative learning center during his sophomore year (behavior problems). He’s very much a boom or bust kid.

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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think Pender is the 1st real project our staff is going after?

I guess I don’t remember if Nigel Carr or Fortson came in with bad reps. (Sure did leave with them, though)

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by ricobert1 on May 4, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least under Jimbo as HC

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t scan the list. Who else?

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which Jackson?

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

how are you guys defining "project"?

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 5, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arrington Jenkins?

Not questioning his character, just thought that he was a risk to qualify academically (although I’m under the impression that he has his house in order now)

by paperjames on May 4, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is scary

given that the transition big fish little pond => small fish big pond is going to be rather severe.

by StM on May 4, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

No suspensions, however, in over a year. So there is that.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Super Mario, indeed

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by ricobert1 on May 4, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

NC? you men NT? or ACCC?

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by Alittlemore_cowbell on May 4, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are his 'stache and sideburns connecting?!

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by freshcollegeboy on May 4, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

If so that is amazing

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by freshcollegeboy on May 4, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully with less kids and without bird legs

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 4, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite posts/evals of all time Tubbs

Calculated, poignant and relevant

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by NeuroNole on May 4, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

I just saw the honey badger video the other day.

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by numberonenole on May 4, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to high on him

He ran only 5-6 plays between the tackles and when he could bounce it outside he did. Even with 10.6 speed he cant do that in college consistently. The team speed will shut that down real quick. I will give him this though… a wing back in a wing t offense is usually not designed to run between the tackles so maybe he didn’t get the opportunity. Id rather have tough guy with good speed who enjoys contacts and hit holes with confidence than elite speed and someone who only knows how to attack the outside edge. He looks raw against poor competition. JMHO

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by camfsu04e on May 4, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Where do you think he shies away from contact?

Since you imply he does not enjoy contact nor hit holes with confidence.

Personally I think he makes very decisive cuts. Further, how you can constitute him as raw?

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by freshcollegeboy on May 4, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

His cuts are all outside the tackles. Doesn’t do a lot inside and that what I meant. It seems like he just tries to beat everyone to the outside, 2B high school is very different than Clemsons DE’s Raw because he runs one play – SWEEEP! and doesnt even switch the ball to the sideline side. Carries the ball very loosely – see 2:44. He seems to have decent vision but again the 2B competition shows as there are times when there no one with in 10 yds of the kid.

I feel like he has further to go than DFree to be a good starting back.

D-Hop has tiger blood

by camfsu04e on May 4, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was an option play in there too

but again, it was to the outside. I like that he doesn’t give up on the play whne it appears he is bottled up. He may not be able to escape D1 tacklers as often, but I like the “run to the whistle” effort.

by skigator93 on May 4, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats where coaching comes in

He (like a lot of speedy high school kids in a wing-t) doesn’t do alot if interior running based on the design of the offense and whenever POA blocks are defeated he knows he can simply turn the corner and run away from HS kids. However, he projects to be around 210 pounds (Very thick lower half) which should make him at least a serviceable interior runner in and of itself.

What I don’t see mentioned is the fact the Pender has great COD ability (and suddeness) which will serve him well in our 1 cut system. Has the agility to press the hole,stick his foot in the ground, and burst through the cutback lane that has been opened up by a LB in backside pursuit. Most people get caught up in his speed but his best attribute for FSU purposes are his lightning quick feet combined with his burst/accelaration. If he can be coached to make the proper reads within the system and not hang in the backfield too long looking for the home run (Ala CJ Spiller. Andre Ellingtion is a better pure runner IMO) that will minimize the negative plays. In short, his biggest adjustment IMO will be to become a better and more patient runner BEHIND the LOS (He’ll be fine in the open field from day one). His present level of competition allow him to get away with mistakes behind the LOS that he won’t get away with at the next level.

by westcoastnolefan on May 4, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has some pop warner in him. Kid SMASHED all noel devine’s pop warner records. He has always been able to run away.

I agree about the speed thing, but I have a feeling he can play at 210, which is pretty big.

Whether he ever hits the hole like a grinder is unknown.

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'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

210 would be nice!

How tall is he? He looks taller than many of the kids out there?

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by camfsu04e on May 4, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Legit 6’0"

I don’t know if he can get to 210, but a 10.6 100 kid at an eventual 200-210 pounds is pretty impressive.

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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m saying he still runs like you can in pop warner (get the corner, speed your way to the end zone)

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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll grant you that his HS competition looks suspect

But I disagree with saying he’s shy from contact. Perhaps he runs between guys instead of through them. Nothing wrong with that.

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by ricobert1 on May 4, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, he's doing using his attributes to help his offense gain yards,

and thus helping his team win. If he can run away from everyone to the outside, then more power to him.

He’s winning football games, not making a highlight tape.

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by CornNole on May 4, 2011 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

he won't have a 2A OL @ FSU.

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by harper.rb on May 4, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pender carrying +

’11 OL zone blocking = winning

Championship!

by TLHWG on May 4, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean

#WINNING!

2011 BCS Bowl
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by SoCalNole on May 4, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud I know you said that there are some maturity concerns

But are there any academic concerns as well? or does he have the grades and just a bad attitude?

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Not familiar with his academics.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very few backs in the nation have his speed

I can only think of maybe 3-5 guys. I would say Pender will probably be the fastest player on our roster the first day he steps foot on campus.

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by Michael@TN on May 4, 2011 12:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

No

Because of his competition. He will see a big jump in ratings though if he does well the week of Army game/Under Armour game

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by Michael@TN on May 4, 2011 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

While he puts up gaudy numbers, he doesn't really have that one (or several) highlight reel runs on his highlights that get prospects that 5th star.

Jmo.

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah good point

I definitely think that he is a special talent though, and Im very excited about him. I just hope that he can move past these issues that Bud was talking about.

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's a very good RB prospect and I do think he has a run or two that make you go "Damn".

But you just don’t see him bowling people over like Wilder, Jr or bouncing of EVERYBODY like Devine. He has a few runs in the few mud clips that I think are damn impressive. Cutting in the mud like that…

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah JWJ highlights were absolutely ridiculous

Yeah they were pretty impressive. Like you said some of his runs make you look twice. I think he has tons of potential, especially with Coach Gran coaching him up. If he can adjust to the speed of the game in college well and be consistent carrying in between the tackles more often, then he has a chance to be very special.

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's unfair to say he can't run between the tackles.

Are people not seeing how bad his OL is? When there is a hole in the line to run through he hits it, makes a quick cut and is off.

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not saying he cant run between the tackles, never did

I think that he can, I was just saying that he will have to get used to running in between the tackles more when he gets to fsu. He tries to take most runs to the outside because there arent any holes and he is trying to use his speed to get to the corner. But at fsu there will be holes and he wont always be able to outrun everybody. Thats all I was saying is that he would have to make that adjustment.

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't mean you specifically.

It seems to be the general thought that he can’t run between the tackles, which I think he shows several times on film that he can. He just may not be as consistent at it yet as he will need to be while at FSU, but that’s not a big deal since every player will need to improve from high school to play here.

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh ok sorry

That is true that many people seem to think that. But as was stated before there arent really any holes for him to run through, I think he does a very good job considering the oline talent on his team. I dont think that it will be a big deal either, I was just saying that I think that will be one of the main things he will have to work on.

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rashad Greene?

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

Rashad’s electronic 4.42 40 would be right with Pender imo. Joyner I would put third if his added weight hasn’t slowed him down.

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by Michael@TN on May 4, 2011 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But FSU is not looking for speed or home runs. They are looking for guys who do not lose yards. Boom or bust runners are no good to them.

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to tell right now because of the competition he plays.

I think he’s a boom or bust player (meaning success or complete flop), but as a running style, not sure.

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

My high school was 1A when i played and there were teams that didnt even deserve to be on the field with us. There were some pretty good ones but there were some pretty bad ones. I dont know how much of a step up in competition 2B is.

I’m not sure about his running style either. Some people were saying they think that he wont hit the hole and that he always bounces it to the outside. I think he takes it to the outside so much because that works for him. I don’t think he wont hit the hole just that going to the outside and outrunning people works better for him.

by Noleforever9399 on May 4, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't view him as just a speed guy like a Mike Bellamy

He has the frame to bang in between the tackles if Vic gets him up in weight. He shows some toughness when he does run it between the tackles. There will def be an adjustment to the speed of the game at the next level, but he has tools you can’t teach. If his head is on straight I think Coach Gran can get a lot out of him.

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by Michael@TN on May 4, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed.

I think he has the physical ability to do it. But he needs to focus on process of running the play as designed, and if it pops for a homer, awesome. Where he could get into trouble is trying to hit a home run on every play and not running the play as designed.

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that sounds like a certain fast FSU RB

i think we all know who i mean. does Pender compare to him in that sense, or does he seem like he will be willing to take what he can get instead of dancing.

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by nole07 on May 4, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

only time will tell

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by freshcollegeboy on May 4, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

SPEED SPEED

You can’t coach speed, he has some serious speed. Its way to early in his career to judge permanent character flaws. The coaches must see something good or they wouldn’t be recruiting him.

by rspknole1 on May 4, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for doing this series Michael

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by NeuroNole on May 4, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the video....he certainly finishes and knows where the endzone is :D

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by FCANOLE on May 4, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I think both Pender and Freeman are NC team players.

can’t wait.

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by harper.rb on May 4, 2011 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Freemannnnn is nasty, but Pender does look fast with pads on.

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by numberonenole on May 4, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Must be wearing those new pads with "wings".

I think *everyone* wants Maximus Awesomus as their team's QB.

-A guy who’s kind to kids, but doesn’t cut their genitals on field trips.
-You’d let him date your daughter just so you could see him in person.
-I think we all want this guy

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on May 5, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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