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Miami Suspends Jeff Brown For Rape Charge

The University of Miami indefinitely suspended redshirt freshman defensive tackle Jeffrey Brown for raping a sleeping woman, according to reports:

As the victim was sleeping, [Brown] pulled off the victim's blanket and got on top of her," the arredste report stated. "He then removed the victim's underwear."

The woman told Brown to stop, but he continued and had sex with her against her will, she told police.

When approached by police, Brown denied the allegations, but when presented with evidence, he changed his story and admitted to having sex with the woman, police said.

Brown also allegedly sent several text messages to his roommate while being interviewed by police. He asked the unnamed roommate to "dispose of his underwear," the report stated.

Police later retrieved Brown's underwear and took them into evidence.

Please do not take analysis of the situation as crass.  We are certainly sensitive to the situation and our sympathies are with the alleged victim.

This is the second serious charge against a Miami Hurricane player under new coach Al Golden.  In March, linebacker Ramon Buchannan for assaulting a police officer.  This behavior is in stark contrast to that of the team under fired coach Randy Shannon, who ran a clean but unsuccessful program.

Miami, which lacks quality depth at the defensive tackle position, could have used Brown this year.  While he was not going to start, he would have been the fourth or fifth defensive tackle, and that would certainly mean significant playing time.  

Miami's new game plan at defensive tackle is two-fold:

  1. Have excellent injury luck
  2. Sign two major scrubs projects to come in late.  You had to know Miami felt really bad about its defensive tackle situation to sign two roulette chips in those two.

More to come on this story and others as things are getting bad in Miami a full year before the Canes were expected to field the worst non-probation team since the 1970's (2012).

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The problem here is that Miami needs to hit the home run of all home runs with this recruiting class, given that they will have room to sign 30 guys when all is said and done.

And all these behavior problems (likely 9 guys suspended, multiple felonies) are going to make Donna Shalala say “not a chance” when Golden wants to take a kid of questionable character.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Golden has found himself in a bit of a predicament

And completely agree the staff will have to put more emphasis on recruiting choir boys and not ones with questionable backgrounds/character.

Getting rid of his/her underwear won’t clear him of this heinous crime, but I’m sure most TN members know this. Rape kit, fingernail clippings, hair, etc…

by CSI Nole on May 4, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm going to come off like a jerk here...

But the problem here is that a girl got raped. and we’re talking about how this affects recruiting and the outcome of football games. I know everyone has already said that this is a heinous crime but it feels crass to me talking about advantages gained from rape. I know I am probably taking this worse than is reasonable but I really felt that it needed to be said. A GIRL WAS RAPED. Worrying about anything beyond that is messed up.

by stop drop & nole on May 4, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I considered this viewpoint and certainly acknowledge the heinousness of the crime, if it did occur. But this is a website dedicated to sports analysis. It is not a site covering victim’s rights or crime trends. Some event happened to a major rival school and we analyze it. The analysis to which you responded clearly addressed the increased problem going forward for the new coach.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone...

Do not take my first post as gloating. Rape is a serious offense and believe me, I do not condone that type of behavior.

A lot has happened at UM since Shannon’s departure (which explains my Thug U comment).

by CSI Nole on May 4, 2011 6:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

"I really can't stand that NFL guy, what's his name? Mel, yeah Mel Kiper Jr. He knows about as much about football as a Japanese space pilot." - Coach Trickett

by Gulfport Nole on May 4, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha back CSI

In regards to your initial post it shocked me how fast Miami fans turned on Shannon. While he may not have been the best on the field strategist he did turn the program into a respectable one from an academic standpoint. Coker is the one I personally wish was still there. Dude was a trainwreck

by westcoastnolefan on May 4, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all good if some took my post out of context

At least Shannon kept those kids out of trouble and in the classroom. Shalalalalala should have held onto Randy for a couple more years. We all know how Miami fans are… all 8k of them.

by CSI Nole on May 4, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just messing with you.

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by Gulfport Nole on May 5, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bob Elliot You Are Worse Than All of the Players

Are you kidding me? On what personal basis do you know any of the people involved in this situation? Do you know the true consequences of posting a blog like this with completely misinformed facts. Jeffrey Brown was by no means a roulete chip for UM. As a matter of fact, he was state wrestling champion, had honor roll grades, and never was even suspended from school or arrested for any other charges. Jeffrey Brown proved himself in and away from athletics. Yes it is very possible that he indeed is guilty but do we all not recall the duke lacrosse situation. Many lives were ruined. Athletes like Jeffrey Brown and their alleged victims are in a position where quite frankly they need more support than you need views on your petty blog. Your information is completely bias and yea its the internet so you usualy can get away with it, but Bud Elliot consider the true effects of this post and realize what you are doing. Regardless if Jeffrey Brown is innocent or not when you type his name in on google this is what will come up. He is 18/19 years of age and if he is innocent he deserves the life your wealthy family has granted you. Boycott Bud Elliot for your lack of consideration and sensitivity to a situation that you are making up facts about.

by clom4life on May 5, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about Bob?

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by FSUvaFan on May 5, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hi, I'm not Bud (or Bob)

I know it’s a little complicated when you’re reading stuff on the internet sometimes, but if you look closely you’ll see that all Bud did was quote an NBC article. He doesn’t actually have the opportunity to be “making up any facts,” because the relevant quote is all from NBC.

I think you owe Bud (or Bob) an apology with this extremely weird accusation.

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by GregJones on May 5, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it's true..

I don’t think kindly on men of his kind, even though he now takes it in the behind.

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by Marmaduke1 on May 5, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You haven't posted anything inappropriate. If guilty, Brown should have his balls cut off.

BTW, 2012 will not be the worst non probation team since the 70’s. We will still have more talent on board than when Shannon took over, and have a coach that can read a clock.

by Nole Resurrected on May 5, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Talking about the 2007 team?

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 5, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's the one.

First year head coach overseeing 3 years worth of overrated recruiting. 2012 will not be nearly as bad. We’ll still be a talented team. Thin, but talented.

by Nole Resurrected on May 5, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. I see Miami with the worst receiving corps in the ACC for 2012 and a bad set of backers and DBs. Oh, and if Vernon and Forston go early, the dline could be really bad as well.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 5, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Streeter will still be here, and we have some underclassmen that can step up.

Finne will be a good one at cb. Our problem will be depth. Our Oline will be one of the best, with a stable of backs for them to block for. We’ll have talent scattered about the field, just not much room for injuries.

We will take a step back, no doubt about that. I just don’t see it being THAT dramatic. If we have a decent year this year, Golden will rack up in recruiting. We’ll have what y’all did last year. An up and coming, exciting new coach with ALOT of roster space. What step we take back in 2012 should be more than made up for in 2013.

by Nole Resurrected on May 5, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

CR I just don’t see it. I think the backs could be excellent and the oline could be excellent, and the QB play might not be bad either.

But that schedule is a beast and there are so many obstacles to overcome. Not sure Golden makes a bowl in year two.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 5, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

In reality, 2012 will probaly be somewhere between our predictions.

It won’t be as smooth a transition as I hope, but not the end of the program either.

by Nole Resurrected on May 5, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Golden will rack up in recruiting"

Maybe by Miami, Louisville and USF standards, but not by UF and FSU standards.

by NoleOrNever on May 5, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could have accomplished the same thing (nothing) by posting any of the following statements instead....

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by DRusso97 on May 5, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Duke Lacross team never texted his roomate from the police precent

to dump his underwear after lying that he didn;‘t have sex then admitting he did. Bud wrote an article that pretty much tried to show the realities of the teams standings. And would have written the same thing if this was a Nole player. Defending him to the extent you are clon shows that if may be guilty as sin as you admit and cause Bud reports strait facts from sources he sites and adds his thoughts on how it could effect a team or whatnot since that’s what this site is. Strait shooting articles about the schools and how things may be effected. And if he is guilty. Which by denying having sex and texting his roommate to dump the underwear from the police station after first saying nothing happened is not a way to remotely look innocent. And if you hate the writing. Bud will tell you tha’ts your right and you don’t have to continue to read his articles. Which pretty much everyone here are strait shooting well done articles on anything related to FSU through sports as does the rest of the TN team

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by caine115 on May 7, 2011 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too horrible to even gloat over

and I hope none of us here stoop to that level. It is amazing though that Shannon kept the program so clean, and now not even a year later they are right back on the path to Thug U. Before this fans were start to equate arrests to winning and saying they needed thugs to give the team fire and blah blah blah. Will be interesting to see what they say now.

by osceolafan2.0 on May 4, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Shannon's recruit

Golden has nothing to do with this. He can’t be there at 4AM with these kids. I am not saying its Randy’s fault ether but you cant count this against Golden when he didn’t even recruit the kid

by MeBeFirst on May 4, 2011 11:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Even if it is coincidence

it is still an amazing coincidence. And telling a cop that you are a Miami football player so nothing will happen to you sounds like you don’t think the coach will make an example out of you. I don’t think the sample size is large enough to Golden is too soft, but somehow he has managed to have more discipline issues in his tenure than Shannon had in 4 years. Right now there clearly is a problem in Coral Gables that wasn’t there when Shannon was there.

by osceolafan2.0 on May 5, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats because Shannon started off right

he kicked of 17 players his first day. this is Miami, aka “thug U”, and you have to drop the hammer when appropriate or you will lose the team. Golden has a team of young scrubs, so he didnt have the option to do that and still win, but he has to do better than this.

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 5, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, cannot be happy about this situation, rival or not.

feel terrible that things like this go on, hope to never see a story like this about FSU. This is nothing to be happy about, poor girl. Hope he never sees the light of day again.

by NoleRaised on May 4, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all about DA U!

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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on May 4, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

dude

now I feel like crap for laughing out loud.

by Kelly Huffman on May 4, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

LORD

please keep our kids behaving as well as they have since Jimbo took over. We don’t need this kind of publicity when things are starting to go so well for us.

by ed64nole on May 4, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Forget the publicity...

Forget just our kids. Let’s keep ALL kids regardless of the who’s program it is behaving well and NEVER involved in something like this if its true. NO ONE should have to go through something like this … rivalry or not, conference foe or not, non-conference competition or not.

by FSU on May 5, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ruh roh

They arent keeping it small time either, are they? Rape and messing with the police. Im not joking when I say this, but are they trying to catch up with the Gators in one off season?

Poor lady… If J.B. is guilty, I hope they throw the book at him.

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by Miaminole on May 4, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Disaster.

@ Kansas State (think KSU can win this as Miami loses everyone and it is the opener)
@ Notre Dame (Chicago)
Bethune Cookman
USF

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could easily go 1-3

and if that happens they are screwed because no way do they run the table in the ACC. Will be interesting to see how much rope they give Golden.

by osceolafan2.0 on May 4, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Figure 2-2.

Then
Florida State, NC State, North Carolina, Virginia Tech

and

@Boston College, @Duke, @Georgia Tech, @Virginia

I’ve said this for a good long time. Miami could miss a bowl in 2012.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't put money on 1-3

but I could see it happening. I have more faith in Holtz than Golden and the talent level of the two teams might not be that different. The game will also be the biggest of the year for USF but the 4th or 5th biggest for the Canes. I honestly think it was stupid for any of the Big 3 to schedule USF, but it is worse for Miami than anyone else.

by osceolafan2.0 on May 4, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Al Golden is a fine coach, but he has enormous circumstances working against him. Enormous.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, that pit looks like it's filled with quicksand

Golden will get a helping of new-coach disciplinary slack for these early incidents, but stuff like this simply HAS TO stop happening, and soon.

Otherwise, he looks like Urban Meyer without the trophies.

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by Dogrel on May 4, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's funny Dogrel

Miami: Putting the pit in pit stop!

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by GonzoNole on May 5, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

i see him taking the unconventional route

get fired, wait a year, and get a better job. or he could be Haith and just get a promotion straight up.

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 5, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I know you meant Kelly and not Lisping Lou, but I had to laugh for some reason

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by The Ryno and I Know on May 5, 2011 8:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They have tOSU at home

in the second game of the season. Of course, the way things are going in Columbus, who knows what kind of team they’re going to put on the field?

by Dauntless12 on May 4, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes, just getting bowl eligible will be a HUGE accomplishment in 2012 for them.

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by RollNole5 on May 4, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point

UM might have to switch to a 3-4 solely because of lack quality DTs

by paperjames on May 4, 2011 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t see it this year.

 The ’Canes have (alphabetically)

76 Brown, Jeffrey Defensive Line 6-3/295 RS FR
99 Forston, Marcus Defensive Line 6-3/300 RS JR
98 Lewis, Jeremy Defensive Line 6-4/315 JR
96 Porter, Curtis Defensive Line 6-1/300 SO
54 Regis, Micanor Defensive Line 6-3/305 SR
93 Robinson, Luther Defensive Line 6-3/295 SO
XX King (345 pound JUCO)
XX Smith (6’2" 270 pound freshman)

Olsen Pierre can also play dt

Six second-year or older defensive tackles, a few of which will play in the league. They also have Jalen Grimble, a 4/5* kid from California coming in. This is one of the few areas where I don’t think Miami needs to worry, absent injury. If Golden is worried here, and not just setting up preemptive excuses, then Miami may be in real trouble.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

They'll be all right

probably similar to what we had last season but the players are older and more experienced.

by ryandinho on May 5, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would the Buchanan and Brown incidents fall on Golden?

Shannon recruited these guys. Is the thought that these guys would behave for Shannon but not for Golden?

by movinonup on May 4, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Because they didn’t commit crimes under Randy and Randy had a super clean record, yes.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, they didn't get *caught* committing any crimes under Randy, at least.

Shannon might have been covering for players, or he might have had tighter control over them. Who knows. He did recruit these kids, that’s for sure. Also, in a transition like this there are going to be “leaderless” moments. Like a kid whose parents get divorced and goes astray, either because there is a time where he doesn’t have anyone watching over his shoulder or because he decides he just isn’t buying into what the “step-dad” is saying. Regardless of culpability, perception does matter, and kids getting into trouble while Golden is the head coach will lead to some perception issues.

by ChrisB123 on May 4, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

true but wrong

To many people put an emphasis on when it happened or who it happened under. Golden inherited these kids, Randy was the one that picked them. It should always fall on who evaluated and recruited the player. In my eyes it Randy’s clean slate that got soiled not Golden’s.

by MeBeFirst on May 4, 2011 11:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Image is really what matters in this business because people do not have enough patience to wait out right and wrong, unfortunately.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 5, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Randy recruited these guys, BUT he kept them in check

it seems the prisoners do not fear the new warden

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on May 5, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who recruited them, at this point, is irrelevant. It's happening under Golden's watch.

When the media and everyone else talks about the 32 players arrested while Meyer was the Gaturd coach, it is not qualified by saying XX number of players were not his recruits. It is acknowledged that it was under Herban Liar’s watch.

Just like Fisher with Nigel Carr and Forston. No one will mention that they were Bobby’s recruits players recruited while Bowden was the coach.

Fair or unfair, that will happen to Golden reputation and he will take the hit.

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by FrankDNole on May 5, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cost of being the boss

Doesn’t matter if you are in the Military, government, running a team or running a Burger King. If you are in charge when things go south it will be on you. Looking at the way everyone stayed out of trouble with Shannon this reflects even worse on Golden, regardless of if it is his fault or not.

Something lost in the news of this are the quotes Reid gave the press when he said he was leaving Miami. He says he was told by the coaches that he wouldn’t be getting any reps so he should just transfer to another school. We all know Miami won’t be the only school forcing attrition, but it is a problem if the players going to other schools actually go public with statements like this. And Reid was a E150 kid.

by osceolafan2.0 on May 4, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true

But either way how are you supposed to know when recruiting if a kid is going to rape someone. I don’t think you can blame randy, al, or miami on this one. there is only one person you can blame..

by ajm05j on May 4, 2011 8:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought the film of Corey King was pretty solid.

He’s the late 2011 signee at DT out of Boca.

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he is a project and won’t contribute until 2013ish. 270 pounds, short arms. Probablly a 5-tech in a 3-4

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, no, I don't expect many guys just a few months removed from high school to contribute.

No idea about his arm length. I imagine you’ve heard/read that somewhere?

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I hear is that he hasn't signed a LOI or anything yet

Still has to wait to hear back from the clearinghouse and everything for them to accept the scores.

by Volstud on May 4, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would make the story even more odd if he hasn't signed an LOI and isn't allowed to enroll at Miami after all of this.

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by tricknole on May 4, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what you said, they only have about 4 DT’s left if Brown is kicked off…at this point…maybe 5. Without injury, won’t this not matter too much since Miami’s schedule is favorable to face us. They get Duke the week before, and have 9 days of break before that, after playing on a Thursday night. So that means they have 16 days to plan and rest for us which will allow them to heal and recoop. I hated this part of our schedule the most, that we had to play 3 games in 14 days against good competition and they have to play 1 (us) game against good competition in 16 days. Do you see this as a problem for us or is it too early to tel.

by lovemynoles09 on May 4, 2011 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

My opinion

Barring injuries, I think it’s not ideal but still shouldn’t be a problem. I think they’ll be having that down of a year.

Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."

by GregJones on May 4, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not particularly worried about it.

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 seperate police incidents in Golden's first 5 months? Which ones?

If God told me to root for the Gators, I'd tell him to go to hell.

by dubai_nole on May 4, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

2 reported

and three run-ins

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

remember any names? My brother in-law went to medical school there.

Need some ammo :) I am currently googling it.

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by dubai_nole on May 4, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ramon Buchanan,Brown, ? ?

If God told me to root for the Gators, I'd tell him to go to hell.

by dubai_nole on May 4, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

williams, payne, storm johnson

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unsure

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 4, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heard its smoking reefer in the dorm

Campus police caught them. I’m not a 100% positive though.

by FSUAlum04 on May 5, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/04/canes-announce-one-suspension-more-may-be-in-the-offing/

'11: Minimum Goal: 9-3 Regular Season. Given FSU's non-con slate, don't care who the 9 are.
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 8th in offense, 88th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on May 5, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

and UM continues to circle the bowl on its way down.

their are a few, very few, old time cane fans I wouldn’t mind seeing become Nole fans. The rest of the mouth-breathing, chest-thumping, chain wearing, slicked-back city punks are getting what they deserve.

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by PeachTreeNole on May 4, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

"Zzzzzzz" means No.

"The other day I... uh, no, that wasn't me." - Steven Wright

by O-Town Nole on May 4, 2011 11:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

been hearing some chatter about PJ Williams looking for a Miami offer. Anyone hearing the same?

by naylort on May 5, 2011 9:06 AM EDT reply actions  

You mean from that one Miami tweeter?

Williams committed awfully early for a guy who wants/wanted a Miami offer so badly.

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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on May 5, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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