James Hamilton Commits To Florida State Seminoles
by Bud Elliott on Jun 19, 2011 8:22 PM EDT
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PrintJames Hamilton, a massive defensive tackle from Olympia High School in Orlando, Florida has committed to the Florida State Seminoles, per his facebook page. Hamilton also plays guard and many schools wanted him there. TomahawkNation was the first to break the commitment thanks to reader "Nole34," who is seriously plugged in on all things Olympia. Give Josh Newberg and the 247 gang credit, however, for scooping that he will play defensive tackle.
Here is an evaluation from one of our frequent readers:
I went to the camp and got to see Hamilton. He looked good Saturday. Really good. Huge but quick. Odell likes him, took him away from the offensive side of the ball. Played both guard and tackle. Looks taller than 6'4" now [FSU measured him at 6'3.5]. I thought he looked 6'5", I didn't stand right next to him but I was close. I'm 6'5" and he made me feel very small.
Had a really good motor, obviously, or Odell wouldn't have snagged him away from the OLine during pass rush, 1 on 1.
I think he's a very good pickup, based on one day in 98 degrees and no pads, anyway. Because really, that's the time when he should be at his worst, not his best, don't you think?
This reader played line in college and has a good idea of what he is talking about.
Hamilton has decent feet for his size, and was getting heavy interest from Florida and Georgia at defensive tackle. He actually held actual offers from Clemson, North Carolina, Michigan State, Rutgers, Texas A&M and North Carolina State. He is a space eater and Jimbo (a Sabanite) has a goal of creating a huge team.
In its simplest form, a nose is asked to:
- Step to the play side while staying low;
- do so quickly; and
- hold the point of attack while getting some penetration.
This is what Hamilton will be asked to do. I think he will be capable of doing so. I am not thinking that he will become a dominant pass rusher or anything of the sort. He'll be asked to draw a double team and clog the middle, forcing the play to the outside. And even though a nose will come off the field in obvious passing situations, a good nose will still make a lot of money in the NFL.
At 6'3.5" and 338 pounds, James Hamilton does carry some bad weight on his frame. But while some players are 19 when they sign, Hamilton just turned 17 and will play his entire senior year before turning 18. That means he is still growing physically. His stock will continue to rise as he matures.
I do suspect, however, that Hamilton will need to continue to mature and get in better shape if he expects to be a 'Nole come signing day.
It should also be noted that this is not a great year for defensive tackles in the state and at this point Florida State has the definitive top DT prospect in Dalvon Stuckey, and can now make the argument that it has the second-best defensive tackle in the state in Hamilton.
FSU has great depth at defensive tackle and should be able to bring both Stuckey and Hamilton along at a decent pace.
Here is some film.
FSU now has 13 commitments and should again reel in one of the best classes in the country.
He may remind some of this guy
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Great weekend
He is definitely a big guy, needs to learn a little technique but is obviously big and strong.
Is this again best player needs to be nabbed?
Dont see we needed another DT? Am guessing we are done at DT now. I remember Jimbo mentioning how he likes to recruit 2 years in advance. so even if james is a 2012 recruit, jimbo is projecting him for 2013 when some of the guys (mcdaniel, dawkins, mccloud) on our current roster will have graduated.
Damien Jacobs
This probably rules out Damien Jacobs’ return to FSU from JUCO.
I think that ship sailed
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Huge huge kid!
I hope he an drop the bad weight. Technique can be taught, size cannot.
Surrender now or be counted with the endless masses that i will defeat-DISTURBED
I can hardly contain the excitement
Jimbo and Co is putting together yet another excellent class…is it September yet?!?!?!
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If I didn't trust Jimbo and staff...
then I would think this and Beatty were filler-ish. I hope I’m wrong
Why do people think that a Punter is a wasted scholarship
smh
What are you glorifying with your life?
it's always seen as a wasted scholarship
until a team finds themselves without a quality guy. Then the ensuing results change people’s opinion.
Fixed it for you
Top teams don’t take fillers in June with many targets still realistically on the board
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Hamilton has some natural explosion jumping almost 29 inches at Nike Camp
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thats impressive
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Thanks Bud...
Your starting to give me a headache with all the info. Thanks Buddy…
huge DT
Guys, I really believe that the BC game at Doak 2 years ago was the tipping point. BJ Raji and Ron Brace with their huge bodies just stopped us from doing anything. What a frustrating game to watch. I’ m sure everyone agrees. Did we realize after that loss that we needed some huge bodies in the middele? Maybe so. Guys like Niles ,Jernigan,and this cat seem to fit that mold.
Jimbo facing Saban’s D at LSU every day in practice came long before that.
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Were those LSU D's any good?
I can never remember…
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Just a little bit.
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Don't underestimate the value of a correctly positioned 'n.'
Moving NSD!
Jimbo has been quite vocal about moving signing day into december from Feb to help kids focus on grades. No wonder with this pace of recruiting he is trying to make a point! and ofcourse is ahead of the curve!
You mean an early signing period?
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But can he punt?
What are you glorifying with your life?
by ricobert1 on Jun 19, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Awesome
Looks like an impenetrable wall on the field in that first vid. Plenty of time to fine-tune his technique.
if we are actually taking 20 i still think ther is a possiblity of snagging Goldman
Winston and Maguire
Pender
Croom Bracy Agholor
Christo
Taylor Peat
GOldman Hamilton Stuckey
Fowler Casher MEJ
Eligwe Clemons
PJ Dixon
Roberto Beatty
Thts 21 but Beatty could prob Grey shirt
SCALP'EM
Jesus is Lord!
Well I don't think we were landing Goldman regardless, but taking him would make 12 DT for 2012 and I'm not counting McCray.
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Yeah. Where do people get this Goldman idea from?
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'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 20, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't tell ya.
There are always people every year that think we land 5* that we have almost no shot of landing. Some people think we have a shot at Green-Beckham.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
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You tellin me Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
What are you glorifying with your life?
by ricobert1 on Jun 20, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I say #$#@ you Jobu, I do it myself.
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by onebarrelrum on Jun 20, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Favorite line from the sequel:
You have no Mahbles
Good place to put this:
Saw you learned about Tally Utility rates in your law class, and I’ll add this
Tally
has a municipal utility, in other words, not an investor owned utility, hence not regulated like they are. Tally utilities uses almost exclusively natural gas which is (well was really) one of the most expensive forms of energy production. Gas prices sky rocketed a few years ago but have since gone back down and leveled out. The city has/had an 8 million dollar surplus, but said they aren’t going to give it back to the costumers and are going to save it for ‘rainy day’ blah blah blah, whatever we are getting screwed. Seriously, people in S. Florida complain about FPL, which I would take in a heartbeat.
Also, nice tagline, I like it! HAHA.
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by onebarrelrum on Jun 20, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what he's been drinking
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by Dogrel on Jun 20, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why would we greyshirt the punter when powell is gone after this year?
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
http://plantthespear.com/showthread.php?471-FSU-gets-Commitment-13
James Hamilton benches 375-pounds and has a 28-inch vertical jump.
Hamilton reports a 2.7 core GPA and 18 ACT and 870 SAT. He is retaking the ACT next month.
Ummmm…this kid may not make it in.
What are you glorifying with your life?
If not, he can be a nice sign-and-place.
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His coach expects him to EE
I’m not sure what to expect because I heard his test scores were crap.
Head said Hamilton is due to graduate at mid-year and enroll in January and will be the first Olympia player to sign with one of Florida’s big three football powers.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/seminoles/os-olympia-james-hamilton-florida-sta20110619,0,2308477.story
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If his core is 2.7, 18 and 870 shouldn't be too far off.
Which leads me to believe his core isn’t really 2.7
Right. Especially if there’s even a thought of him tracking to EE. HS core is the easiest thing to change (good or bad) because its completely within the HS control. He could retake a class to change a grade, get extra credit, etc. As long as the jump isnt rediculous the NCAA won’t flag it
Doesn't get said enough
It’s great having you around.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jun 19, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Maybe I misunderstand
but a 2.7 core with a 870 SAT sounds good enough to get in under NCAA rules. I found this though it is a bit old info:
The "sliding scale" has also been extended. It will now allow a higher core GPA to reduce the SAT component. A 2.5 core GPA will still require a 820 SAT score, a higher core GPA of 2.75 GPA would need a 720 SAT score, a 3.0 core GPA would only require a 620 SAT score and a 3.55 core GPA would require just a 400 SAT score.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jun 19, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
found it
took a while, but I found this on the NCAA site: http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_center/Quick_Reference_Sheet_for_IE_Standards-6-18-09.pdf
According to it, a 2.7 core requires a 730 combined math and verbal (writing doesn’t add in). So if that 870 SAT is the right combo (not his cumulative math, verbal AND writing, just the math and verbal …) he’s ok. His core could even drop to 2.375 with an 870 SAT.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jun 19, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
regardless of how he calculated his SAT
his ACT means he only needs a 2.45
by ACC_Apologist on Jun 20, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
What are you saying his core is, higher or lower?
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Lower; probably in the 2.2-2.4 range possibly lower.
870 and 18 should be very close to qualifying, if not already qualifying with a 2.7. He may have been less than honest about that part
What am I missing?
He says he will be an EE.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
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You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
EE'ing isn't necessarily about how high your GPA is, as much as it is how many of your core classes you have completed.
Guys who EE don’t all have 3.5+ GPA. You can EE with a 2.6 as long as you have completed a certain criteria as far as classes go.
If he really has a 2.7, I don’t think there is any need for him to re-take the ACT like he said he is. Improving his ACT won’t affect his EE status and with a 2.7 he should already qualify. Which is why I believe his GPA is lower than he lead on. So it is possible that he may need to slightly improve his GPA to qualify, but also be on track to potentially EE. Devonta Freeman was a potential qualifying risk who ended up being an EE
How many questions does one have to get right in order to get a 400?
That’s ridiculously low.
Combined math and science?
That’s the minimum. Score range is 200-800 for each section.
yeah, my kid had only an 800 and was able to get in.
‘course, that was on the CR portion ;) (720 math, 770 essay- he’s not on athletic scholarship needless to say :))
If you torture a statistic enough you can make it confess to anything.
by PeachTreeNole on Jun 20, 2011 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Keep 'em coming !
Kudos to the coaching staff yet again.
Lord, God Almighty
Jimbo and his staff are so far ahead of where we were. It’s unbelievable. I wish this had happened 5-7 years ago. Go Noles. Come on September.
by ed64nole on Jun 19, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If Jimbo AND Butch Davis offered him he's A-OK in my book
by Cigar City Nole on Jun 19, 2011 9:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
gotta rec that for gatah homer reference.......
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Exactly
The North Carolina staff can evaluate Defensive talent as well as anyone.
They also pay well (kidding)
by GeorgiaNole on Jun 19, 2011 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
2:44
minute mark in the film. “Knees buckling, going down, oh god don’t fall on me!!” “Hello darkness my old friend…”
hahahaha
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by onebarrelrum on Jun 19, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
unknown dt's
I’m old enough to remember when Miami took an unknown guy named Russel Maryland before the internet age. He was considered a fat kid with few offers. Sometimes coaches just see things in these kids that others don’t.
but this is not the case...
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by onebarrelrum on Jun 19, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Does this basically close the door on Jelani Hamilton's chances of being in this class?
I see him as more of a DT at the next level and idk if we’d take 3 DT after last year
JT Hamilton Olympia HS Orlando
Will play right tackle this season blocking for my son who is the starting QB at Olympia. He has been working to shed some weight and was close to 350. At our spring game against St. Cloud, JT was playing Nose Tackle. He hit the center so hard it knocked him back into the blocking back who hit the running back and knocked him down. This kid is naturally very strong and as he continues to transform his body will be a Brahma Bull in the middle forcing everything to the outside.
by nole34 on Jun 19, 2011 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Good luck to your son this year.
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by numberonenole on Jun 19, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope a guy like Goldman isn't affected by this kind of thing
Knows he’s awesome and competition doesn’t scare him.
Or we know we’re out of it for him.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
I trust a commitment taken at this point
But I have to take issue with the “arguably the second best DT in the state.” Just seems like a tough argument to make at this point.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Who am I missing?
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'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 19, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I know talent in state is thin
I’m just saying that he’s not even evaluated as a DT by most sites and many hadn’t heard of him being recruited as a DT this cycle I don’t think. Just makes it a tough argument to make in my eyes.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Who am I missing?
'11: Minimum Goal: Win 10 games again
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Earl Moore, Teko Powell (bother SDE/DT tweeners as of now imo).
And don’t forget “that Brown DT.” Only ones I know of.
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Earl Moore 6’0" 280? Who FSU won’t give a real offer to and neither will UF or Mia?
Teko Powell who tried to commit and was not accepted?
I’ll take ’07’s answer below
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I was only naming the only other DTs in the state I could think of.
Not saying they were better. And both would seem to play Stuckey’s position anyways and not Hamilton’s. The Brown thing was apparently a bad joke.
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DT/OT Dante Phillips? 6'6" 270 isnt exactly bad
i guess you can exclude him because he is projected at OT, but he is probably the 2nd best DT in FL.
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Fair enough
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'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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The word arguably is arguably the most useless word even when making a point since most anything is arguable. :)
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Can't argue with that.
My team doesn't have to be the best. They just have to win.
by Jamil Dawson on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s nole07’s bat signal.
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
by RollNole5 on Jun 20, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
You...
…are moving up the list of people I really like
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>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
My Highschool played him
he is a load to block and is just nasty* a la darnell docket
- sorry for my 15 yead old language nasty is used both literally and figuratively to say he is good
by reid-the-manuel on Jun 19, 2011 11:30 PM EDT reply actions
Seems like a totally different player than Dockett
Dockett is a lot smaller and relies on quickness. This guy is a giant.
by NoleySmokes on Jun 19, 2011 11:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Reminds me of a Ron Brace type
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'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 19, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
again pardon my 15 year old language
Nasty their meant big and a little beat cheap and just mean we need someone like this
by reid-the-manuel on Jun 20, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Has FSU ever had any players from Olympia?
I graduated from there in ’05, and am pretty glad to hear the news.
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No
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'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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by Bud Elliott on Jun 20, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You talking about coming out of high school?
Or the finished product. Odell can develop DT talent if given time and the proper groceries.
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
Two different levels
One is coming entering his senior year of high school, the other is entering the NFL draft (in the video)
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by PeachTreeNole on Jun 20, 2011 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions
and this is now OUR pizza, Mr. Spicoli
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
28-29" vertical
That is super for someone weighing 330 lbs. By his RS Soph year, he will be a beast!
Odell probably can't stop smiling
by NoleySmokes on Jun 20, 2011 7:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Especially if it's true that he has a good deal of bad weight on him.
Great explosion for a 300+ pound man
by GradSchoolNole on Jun 20, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That is really, REALLY good for someone of his size & age (not yet a Sn in H.S.)
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by slc.nole on Jun 20, 2011 7:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Man
Derrick Mitchell
James Hamilton
Niles Stample
Timmy Jernigan
D. Stuckey
by themonsta15 on Jun 20, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Would you guys like some "honey chicken?"
by NoleySmokes on Jun 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Boo this man!
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by Dogrel on Jun 20, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This has got to be one of the largest players
we’ve ever gotten at FSU.
What are you glorifying with your life?
Football anyway.... BigBaby Nigel was 6-10 350ish for Leonard Hamilton
"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"
by BigSpearDiplomacy on Jun 20, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he was Robinson's guy
But you are right. In fact, Bigjelly was closer to 400 when he arrived.
What are you glorifying with your life?
HaHa
I was being PC avoiding “Jelly” and “400”
"You're either carrying a spear, or running from it"
by BigSpearDiplomacy on Jun 20, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Kid's jersey was so big that Nike called it "Jelly" size.
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
Thanks tricknole!
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Went to school with Courtney
Never should’ve been offered by FSU tbqh
It' like Bobby Hart at DT
Young, room to improve but already fast and big, which everyone knows you cant really coach. Either a wr is fast or he isn’t, Either a lineman is big or he isn’t. You can get a little out of a kid but when your looking at the second best dt who could EE….take him! Nobody is running the middle anymore so out mlb doesn’t have to shed ol guys and can make big plays…I see this being a huge year for Nigel and those to follow….
Bobby had much, much less bad weight than Hamilton
Hamilton on the left. He is probably 25%+ bodyfat right now. Very narrow in the shoulders right now, too. His RS-So. year will be highly anticipated by fans IMO.
What are you glorifying with your life?
No doubt a little different but he has a whole season, senior season, to maybe hit 20%.
Factor that with one more year of coaching and he should be fine. Now, take that and the fact that with a deeper DT position I would rather see some extra pounds.
looking at that guy and those moobs, it looks more like 35%
dunno what kind of muscle is buried under there, but that kid is far from being in shape
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
Being an avid weight lifter I would have to say that strengh is nice but power comes from weight.
I would point to one DT and his body type…Warren Sapp. Everyone loves the jacked dude but the DT position is so much about power and conditioning. It’s not John Randall type it’s Sapp, Cody, White…no body builders. I would say the kid has the baby fat, is really young, and has two years…stud, no doubt at that position.
siragusa and wilfork
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by Miaminole on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No
Power is strength + technique. Weight can interfere with technique and, thus, power.
I really don’t care if a guy looks like Broderick Bunkley or Warren Sapp. The best measure of explosive power are your olympic lifts like power snatch, power clean, clean and jerk, etc. You can look like an IT professional for all I care if you can clean a Geo Metro.
What are you glorifying with your life?
Bottom line, I might be able to bench press a fridge...
and I weigh 175 pound, but with weight a man can move it down a hallway…That is the difference between strength and power. I have the strength to move it but not move it…if you know what I mean. Siragusa is an excellent example. No way at 16 or 17 he looked much better than this kid. One year in the weight room…sky is the limit.
Force
= Mass x Acceleration. the more mass the less acceleration you need to crush guys beneath you.
by stop drop & nole on Jun 20, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
But does your ability to produce greater force increase at a greater rate than your loss in acceleration due to more mass?
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I am sure there is a level of diminishing returns...
… when trading size for speed. We are obviously going to try and maximize both with all our players but I guess my point was that size can obviously be helpful, especially if he has a decent burst. Unless his burst is terrible I think bigger is harder to handle. A smaller guy who is very fast is dangerous but if you catch him he is caught. A big guy like Hamilton is tough to contain under almost any circumstance. To ricobert’s point about technique. While technique is always essential, techniques are different when comparing bigger and (comparatively) smaller players. So while massive size might make certain techniques less effective it could make others more so. techniques are designed around attributes. Hamilton has different attributes so will learn different techniques to make use of them than a smaller DT would.
by stop drop & nole on Jun 20, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
But Hart is like 13 in that picture.
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"Either a lineman is big or he isn’t."
Maybe at 25, but these recruits are 16-18— still time for the body to change. For this guy, big isn’t the problem, but he’s probably 16 in the videos. I agree with you, take him!
Turned 17 in May, after all the videos
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Can I just say that I love our new S&C and nutrition programs?
3 years ago, we could never take a player like this and expect to turn him into something useful. Honey-drizzle chicken wings and Mountain Dew, while excellent in taste, do not a good diet make.
Yea I like how the automatic response nowadays is
“oh he’ll put on 40lbs of muscle and be able to clean and jerk renegade once Vic gets a hold of him” And that’s not even that far fetched
"Kill a fly with an axe"
by SteadfastNole on Jun 20, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even to mention the technique required to lift a horse in the first place
by paperjames on Jun 20, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s all in the hips
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
I don’t even want to know why you have experience lifting a horse…….
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by Mellocello63 on Jun 20, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Listen to Chubbs
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by Miaminole on Jun 20, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Thank you for that sir
>>>-----------;;;-->"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit 'em in the mouth, and they don't like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that's what we started out with.'' - Nick Moody >>>-----------;;;-->
Nice. REC.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Ron Brace comparison could be prescient
Brace was recruited at OG coming out of HS.
What are you glorifying with your life?
there we go!
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but at 17
plenty of time for molding. Age is a positive I think for this guy right now.
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by onebarrelrum on Jun 20, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think O'Dell has ever worked with a kid as big as him
O’Dell seems to train all his guys to be disruptive at the 3-tech (i.e., agile, scraping off blocks).
What are you glorifying with your life?
Gonna be interesting.
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pic embed fail (Orlando Sentinel)
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by ricobert1 on Jun 20, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
oh that's wrong.. but not too far off the mark!
Sorry- just can’t respect a man who beats the Georgia Peach (Kim Basinger), publicly raves that he’ll leave the US if Bush is elected but doesn’t, etc..
If you torture a statistic enough you can make it confess to anything.
by PeachTreeNole on Jun 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta love Pete Schweaty.....
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I love and can't resist his Schweddy balls.
This never gets old.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/116203/saturday-night-live-schweddy-balls-with-alec-intro
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Jun 20, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha ha ha awesome and one of my favs as well!
Lifes a SPEAR then U TRIBE!!!!!
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That quote in the article made me laugh.
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James Hamilton Olympia HS Future Nole Nightmare.
Saw him today at 7on7 competition at First Academy in Orlando. Traded high fives with him . He had a bunch of his family there with him(lineman don’t participate in 7 on 7). He had on the nicest Seminole shirt, black with the Seminole head logo with a matching Nole hat with the flat rim. He was beaming from ear to ear about becoming a Nole. I know that if I was a running back, even a JWJ type, I wouldn’t look forward to trading licks with THAT mountain of a man. What if he falls on you? Great young man.
by nole34 on Jun 20, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
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