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Predicting The All-ACC Team: Defensive Tackle

This is the seventh in a series on the 2011 All-ACC team. First, we profiled the players returning from the 2010 All-ACC team. Then we discussed quarterbacks, running backsreceiverstight ends, offensive line and defensive ends.

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Remember that these honors are voted on by writers. That means certain (read: Carolina states) schools are favored, sack numbers and tackles for loss rule all, and you'll almost never see two players from the same team receive high offers.  This is really not a great method for selecting defensive tackles, because some great defensive tackles don't have many stats as their job is to eat up blockers while the linebackers behind them roam free.  

Two players return from last year's All-ACC team in Maryland's Joe Vellano and N.C. State's J.R. Sweezy.  But they are anything but locks to make it again.  The ACC has a lot of quality defensive tackles and these spots will be difficult to win.

Most consider Miami's Marcus Forston to be the top defensive tackle in the league.  He's a likely first rounder if he leaves early and when healthy, he dominates.  And the Canes are deep at defensive tackle, so he won't get worn down.  

Tydreke Powell of North Carolina is an excellent defensive tackle, but he is a blocker-occupier and thus won't have many TFLs.  If he makes it, it will be because of name recognition.  The 'Heels also brought in one of the top JUCO DTs in the country in Sylvester Williams (6'3" 320).  He made it in for Spring and is expected to start.  If he is the new nose, perhaps Powell could get more TFLs.

Florida State will likely have a seven-man rotation at defensive tackle.  That's great for the 'Noles, but perhaps not so great for individual accolades.  But when a defensive line is this good, writers are going to elect someone.  And that someone is probably 4th-year junior Everett Dawkins.  Dawkins is reportedly up to 300 pounds, and is the best candidate to wrack up heavy TFL numbers.  That said, if you made a list of the top 25 defensive tackles in the league, Florida State would probably have 7 of them.  Defensive line is really a spot that separates the haves from the have-nots.

Last year Clemson had two All-Conference types.  This year they have only one: Brandon Thompson.  'Nole fans are very familiar with Thompson as he has played well against FSU over the last two years and Clemson beat FSU for him in the recruiting game.  He's undoubtedly one of the best defensive tackles in the conference.  But he may have a recognition problem due to the fact that he is called upon to absorb blocks more than make tackles for loss.  

Star-divide

I've already mentioned Sweezy from N.C. State, but it is worth noting that the Wolfpack has a very solid rotation of five at the position.  One of the deeper groups in the league.

Wake Forest has a very good player in Nikita Whitlock, but at 5'11" 260 he is not suited to play nose guard and thus is unlikely to make the team.  

Interestingly, I don't see anyone from Virginia Tech as a serious threat here.  

Matt Conrath and Nick Jenkins of Virginia aren't great players by any means, but they are names, and writers often go with what they know.  One of them could notch a few tackles for loss and land on the team.

And finally, Duke.  Yes, Duke has a player who could make it this year in senior Charlie Hatcher.  The 300-pounder has started 24 games in his career and could notch double-digit TFLs.

This was a really tough call and as noted, the ACC really has a lot of quality interior linemen this year.  

Prediction
1st Team: Marcus Forston (Miami) & Everett Dawkins (FSU)
2nd Team: Brandon Thompson (Clem) & Tydreke Powell (UNC)
Hon Mention: J.R. Sweezy (NC State) & Joe Vellano (MD)

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No, hard to land two from the same eam

'11: Minimum Goal: Win 10 games again
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 13, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bud do you think that,

probably not this year but his senior season, that Jacobbi could become an impact player like we thought he would when he first got here?? A few years in new the S&C program will have him in much better shape,and a good rotation will keep him fresh, as will this year’s. IMO I think that he will just continually improve over the next 2 years.

by Noleforever9399 on Jul 13, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Bud, but I think Jacobbi could have a great year.

He played too many snaps, too early in his career. He should have had the time to put on the proper body weight. Have to remember that he tweaked his elbow pretty good last year too. If he is healthy with the addition of a good/great rotation, he should have plenty of opportunities to make a solid impact.

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by onebarrelrum on Jul 13, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think now that he can get all the way healthy and get in good shape that his performance is only going to go up from here. He definitely has the talent, and now he has the coaching and the depth to help him succeed.

by Noleforever9399 on Jul 14, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Combined weight of the 7 DTs?

Gotta over 2100lbs, right? Hopefully closer to 2200?

by paperjames on Jul 13, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Who are the 7?

Dawkins, McCloud, McDaniel, McAllister, Cummings, Erving… Jernigan? Or are you counting McCray?

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jul 13, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jernigan, I think

Not sure that McCray will ever make it back, unfortunately

by paperjames on Jul 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jernigan, not McCray

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 13, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think that Jernigan

is one of the top 25 tackles in the ACC and he has never played a down of CFB? Please explain how you came to this conclusion. No doubt I think he can be good but I dont think that can be bestowed upon him yet.

D-Hop has tiger blood

by camfsu04e on Jul 13, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you go to Bud's comment and click on the red up button, you will see he is replying to who are the 7 DT's.

I think you mistook his Jernigan comment.

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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jul 13, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the article, Bud said if you made a list of the Top 25 DT's in the ACC, FSU would probably have 7 of them.

I think camfsu04e is trying to figure out who the 7th DT is, Jernigan or someone else. I’m guessing it’s Jernigan, and I could see him being one of the Top 25 DT’s in the ACC……..it isn’t the deepest position.

by NoleFanAtUCF on Jul 13, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. I took it in context of the thread, starting with the combined weight question and working down.

If that’s the case, I can see camfsu questioning how Jernigan could be considered one of the top 25 considering he hasn’t played a down, except maybe on potential. We shall see.

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by FrankDNole on Jul 13, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely. He’d start for a few teams from day one. I saw his ability at 275 pounds and he’s now a lean 300.

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by Bud Elliott on Jul 13, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are Carolina schools favored in these all-ACC teams?

there’s a higher concentration of writes (voters) in the Carolina states?

Championship!

by TLHWG on Jul 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Carolina bias

confirmed!

Championship!

by TLHWG on Jul 13, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will be so missed.

"I'm the one with big mistakes, big regrets and bigger breaks than I'd ever care to confess. Oh, but You're the one who looks at me and sees what I was meant to be - more than just a beautiful mess. - Matthew West

by FSUvaFan on Jul 13, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like he was expecting him to be alot tougher to block

 Then after the initial contact he laughed and said “Mr. Powell meet the ground.”

Man I am going to miss him, what a great Seminole.

by Noleforever9399 on Jul 13, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait for it, wait for it, STONEWALLED

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Jul 13, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you're an OL, keep your feet

and amazing things can happen!

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Jul 14, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got my copy MPS Seminole Kickoff 2011 in the mail today

I’ve only been able to flip through it, but it looks impressive. Money well spent, thanks

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by NorFla_Nole on Jul 13, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm cool with having a DEEP, DEEP, line up at DT. And not winning Awards.

You really think Miami is going to singing praises of their ALL-WORLD DT when it’s 35 to 7 in favor of FSU? I get sick and tired of hearing about “It’s all about Da U” Da U" Miami" “Swagger” “blah, blah, blah, blah” and they havn’t done shit but beat an FSU team with terrible defenses. I can appreciate the optimism that comes with Al Golden, but won’t be the LEAST bit surprised when FSU WALKS that teams like it’s their job.

Jimbo Fisher, making opposing head coaches analysts on ESPN since 2010.

by Chief03 on Jul 13, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn, we can't even have one good player?

I can only imagine how much you’d lose you sh#t if we beat you this year.

by Nole Resurrected on Jul 14, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

sure, you can have Latwan Anderson

oh, my bad. then how about Storm Johns….hmm.

but hey, theres always the hope that another monster player picks USC, then they get busted (it isnt without precedent), and his dad pushes him to Miami to further his rap career.

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Jul 14, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

OOOOOH, yeah. You got me.

The only good back we had was our third string. Seantrel coming from USC makes him not good. You’re right, we have nothing but scrubs, and will be lucky to beat Bethune-Cookman.

by Nole Resurrected on Jul 14, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

chill man, im just messing with you

all 3 of them are good players who had interesting circumstances in their time at Miami (2 are gone, 1 was luck). didnt say they were bad at all, just that i dont mind if you get those kinds of good recruits

"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody

by nole07 on Jul 14, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson is a good player, but I don't mind him being gone.

Latwan, on the other hand, is really being missed. We would have the depth we need in the secondary with him.

by Nole Resurrected on Jul 14, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bad, dude.

I’m just cranky this morning. One of those days where you just really don’t want to be at work.

by Nole Resurrected on Jul 14, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

McCloud!

Dawkins will be good , I think McCloud will be a beast this year.

by seminole4 on Jul 13, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

when healthy, he dominates.

That is the key. That is why I’m not getting too excited about Forston. I’m not holding out hope on him staying healthy.

by Nole Resurrected on Jul 14, 2011 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

What is is injury chronology?

Also, it seems like he’s been tagged with “motivation issues” also. But when you’re hurt, it’s hard to be motivated.

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Jul 14, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully I was wrong.

I know word was that he wasn’t 100% last year. Seems it was from the same ankle injury that cost him the 2009 season. Maybe he’ll be 100% and the ankle hold up this year. It’d be sweet for him to take advantage of the extra year of eligibility next, too.

by Nole Resurrected on Jul 14, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's easy to not get that excited about Forston

The dude has been overrated ever since he got to Miami. He’s not terrible, but he’s far from great. And it’s not just his health holding him back; I don’t think he really has the motor or the determination to be a dominant player.

Micanor Regis is our best DT right now. There were certain moments in the Pittsburgh and Ohio State games where he was unblockable. I just wish he had more than one year to train under Franklin.

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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...

by StoneColdSteel on Jul 14, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Terps

Terps are stacked at DT, stacked is the right word because not only do they have a good player there in Vellano but they are very deep overall at the position.

I am disappointed Vellano was only projected to be HM this year, I watch the other teams enough to know for sure, but I thought there was a good chance Vellano was the best one gap DT in the ACC last year. He comes from good bloodlines as his father was a second team all american DT at UMD in 1974 and two time first team all acc DT (1973 and 1974). Two things make the undersized Vellano very hard to block. He is very quick in tight spaces. He is not a freak athlete that runs a 4.5 forty, but his quickness off the snap is the by far the best on the team, DE or DT. The second is he has a motor. He was easily or best pass rusher on the D-Line last year and that includes DE’s. I thought he deserved First Team All ACC. He finished with 63 tackles with 10.5 TFL including 5 sacks. I doubt another returning ACC player has anywhere near those numbers.

AJ Francis the other starting DT last year also returns. He started as a RS Freshman in the 2009 and then last year in 2010 so he’ll be a third year starter. He lost 10 pounds to get down to 295.

Zach Kerr the other DT from last year’s primary three man rotation (the one who didn’t start) will be academically ineligible. Kerr played in 2009 as a true freshman (as the third DT) and had the same role last year as the third DT (Ivey graduated, but Vellano who had missed all of 2009 with shoulder surgery returned). His losts hurts.

Justin Anderson was a big DE last year (275 pounds) and started 12 games. He was great against the run at DE but not a natural pass rusher with only 2 sacks. The new staff moved him inside to DT. Despite being new to DT, he does have 12 starts under his belt at DE.

Andre Monroe came out and shocked everybody in spring practice. AJ Francis had 25 starts under his belt and Justin Anderson had 12 starts under belt at DE, but neither started the spring game despite being healthy, rather Monroe a surprising player who redshirted in 2010 did. Monroe is small 6’0 285 but like Vellano the is very quick and has a great motor. I am excited about what Monroe can do because he to win the starting spot in the spring game he beat out two former starters, so he didn’t beat out other newbies. I am worried about having Vellano and Monroe in the game at the same time as they are both one gap DT’s, I much rather have Francis lined up with Vellano in running situations. But I would be willing to bet in pass situations, no other team in the ACC will have a pair of DT’s capable of getting pressure inside that than the Terps with the undersized Vellano and Monroe.

by philibu on Jul 15, 2011 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Vellano

had 4.5 sacks. 2 against Navy and 2 against Duke, .5 against Morgan St.

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by onebarrelrum on Jul 18, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got my magazine today!!

Finall got my magazine today, it won’t be long now…

by USAFCCF on Jul 15, 2011 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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