'Nole Perspective: Early Look At Boston College Eagles Football 2011
Let's take a look at Boston College football in 2011. I hope you have been using the convenient links on the left side of the home page that guide you to many excellent previews.
Why Boston College? BC is one of the first teams for which the major preview links have finished their look. Have a look at their take and then read my brief take.
2011 Season Preview: The Boston College Eagles And The Excitement Gap - SBNation.com
A look at the 2011 Boston College Eagles football team. Since their last losing season in 1998, Boston College has produced wins, draft picks, loyalty, human interest stories, more wins, more draft picks and a fantastic, frosted cereal. They've also fought failing attendance and some serious offensive doldrums. With a host of precocious sophomores, is 2011 the year the turn into something more than a steady, eight-game winner?
Below is a small handful of projection and change factors most pertinent to the Football Outsiders' preseason projections you will find in this summer's Football Outsiders Almanac 2011.
Four-Year F/+ Rk 33 Five-Year Recruiting Rk 47 TO Margin/Adj. TO Margin**** +8 / +3.0 Approx. Ret. Starters (Off. / Def.) 15 (8, 7) Yds/Pt Margin***** +0.4 B.C. needed quite a bit of fumbles luck to produce a good turnover margin, and ... really, this just wasn't a very good team last year. In terms of Def. F/+, the Boston College defense has improved, at least slightly, in each of the last three years. Unfortunately, the offense has regressed at a steeper rate than the defense has progressed. It is easy to see the steady fall as a sign that Frank Spaziani fits into the "A great assistant coach who, when promoted to head coach, proved himself to be a great assistant coach" model, and who knows, you might not be wrong. We'll begin to find out this year, with a new hand leading the offense. If Kevin Rogers can breathe some life into a dying offense, then things could rather quickly turn around. The offense doesn't have to be good; it just has to be average for B.C. to succeed.
If B.C. is to come up with yet another winning season and/or threaten for a surprise division crown, a fast start is mandatory. They face a tricky trip to Central Florida in the second week of the season, but four extremely winnable home games (Northwestern, Duke, UMass, Wake Forest) should supplement, at worst, a 4-1 start. Anything less, and six wins becomes an awfully difficult task. The Eagles have a three-game road trip to Clemson, Virginia Tech and Maryland (ouch) in October, host Florida State and N.C. State, then finish at Notre Dame and at Miami. That's brutal.
One way or another, this is going to be a telling season in Chestnut Hill. The offense should be better, the defense should be good, and the schedule gives Chase Rettig, Bobby Swigert, Alex Amidon, Kevin Pierre-Louis, Kasim Edebali and the other precocious sophomores a chance to get their bearings early on. The future may be bright (or, as bright as Boston College's future can be), but Spaziani needs to have a good season to keep the vultures from swirling.
This is the sort of excellent work I have come to expect from Bill. Please make sure to click the link to see the breakdown of the offense and the defense. It is well worth your time.
Now we turn to our friend Paul Myerberg of PreSnapRead.com
Pre-Snap Read: #62- Boston College
I have my concerns. One is this offense, which has a new coordinator but might not experience immediate success. There’s no questioning the fact that Rogers stands as a massive upgrade over his predecessor, if only because he cannot possibly be any worse; still, Boston College will go through a sizable change in philosophy after three years of being extremely vanilla offensively. Much depends on how much improvement we’ll see from Rettig, the sophomore quarterback who scuffled – with a few bright spots – through a true freshman season. But there are pieces in place to be better, thanks to two strong backs and a deep receiver corps, and even with one big loss up front the line shouldn’t take a massive step back. Even if the offense continues to be one of the A.C.C.’s worst, the defense is there to carry the team to bowl play. There’s Kuechly, who is terrific, as well as a handful of blossoming underclassmen dotting the defensive line and the secondary. So what’s the problem? My biggest worry is with the face of the program: I’m not sure if Spaziani is up to the challenge of leading B.C. back to the forefront of the Atlantic division. A second worry: this schedule. The Eagles must start at least 4-1 if they plan on keeping this bowl streak alive, as the slate from Clemson on is extremely difficult. I think B.C. can do just that, but I don’t think this is much better than a .500 team. Is the university satisfied with more mediocrity? Spaziani’s job seems safe, but I think B.C. is capable of doing more.
Like with Bill's take above, please click the link to read Paul's hopes and concerns.
My take:
BC is playing some ridiculous defense just about every season, but the offense continues to slide. I think the defense will take a slight step back this season, but I suspect the offense will improve more than the defense regresses thanks to a second-year quarterback and the new offensive coordinator. That trendline should scare Eagle fans as BC continues to regress. 'Noles are not particularly concerned with BC's ability to make a bowl against a difficult schedule, but rather with FSU's ability to win a tough game on a Thursday night in Boston off short rest.
BC's offense still doesn't scare me. FSU allowed over 40% of BC's yards last season on two run plays on consecutive drives in which FSU misdiagnosed a tight end as a receiver in the coaching booth (had him mislabeled on the sheet), and thus aligned in such a way as to give BC an enormous gap through which they ran. FSU realized its error and dominated after that. And in fairness to FSU, BC had been using him flexed out for much of the year, so he did look like a receiver with his slight build.
And after examining many a box score from BC games, there remains a universal truth: you will not blow out the eagles without having a big edge in the turnover battle. That defense is way too conservative and too good to blow out unless FSU's defense gives its offense short fields. That didn't happen last year as the 'Noles failed to force a single turnover.
For the record, I see BC going 6-6 (4-4 in conference), though I see that 6-6 record coming from a 4-1 start and a 2-5 finish down the stretch. That won't make folks in Chestnut Hill happy.
Game-By-Game Projection
0.73 NWST
0.5 at UCF
0.9 Duke
0.999 Umass
0.9 WF
0.23 at CU
0.18 at VT
0.38 at MD
0.28 FSU
0.5 NCSU
0.18 at ND
0.3 at UM
6.0
3.7
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I like BC
1. They look like us
2. They have a history of beating Miami
3. Their HC looks like one of my childhood heroes (Magnum PI)
Northwestern 95%
Duke 88.5%
UMass 95%
Wake Forest 85%
Clemson 38.5%
Virginia Tech 28.5%
Maryland 50%
Florida State 28.5%
N.C. State 55%
Notre Dame 38.5%
Miami 38.5%
6.41, between 6-7 wins.
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Is Northwestern that bad?
I felt like they were starting to build a respectable program there.
One day at a time
Yeah, they’re better than a 95%, but alot of that will ride on their QB. Before he ruptured his Achilles Dan Persa was getting serious consideration at Big 10 POY, after that the ship sank fast.
by Jonathan Loesche on Jul 2, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Hit reply too soon
Northwestern does have a terrible defense that gave up 30+ points regularly in Big 10 play
by Jonathan Loesche on Jul 2, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah. I don't know much about NW since what's-his-name died.
sorta stopped bothering with them.
Won’t say that list is error free either (outside of NW). Just top of my head
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Northwestern was founded in 1851. Unless you were Louis and Clark or looking for gold that was as far west as people went.
by Jonathan Loesche on Jul 2, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
American history/geography pwnage
by The K-Man on Jul 3, 2011 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah. I actually know that.
I was just being belligerent.
My Grandfather/Grandmother are from Chicago.
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Yep, we damn sure owe them for that one!
Notre Dame fans are still pissed at BC and FSU
Florida State 45 Miami 17
Florida State 31 Florida 7
State Champions
ACC Atlantic Division Champions
by SeminoleMike on Jul 2, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
you forgot ucf
'11: Minimum Goal: Win 10 games again
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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What are you glorifying with your life?
by ricobert1 on Jul 2, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
good stuff Bud - thanks
personally, I think BC is an over acheiver program – they certainly overachieved with last years horrible O. I see them going at least 7-5…because they are overachievers- low turnovers help too.
We mis-labeled a tight end on the cheat sheet?
Wow. Guessing Jimbo was pretty pleased with whoever screwed that up.
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Kid was extrelemy slight of build and bc often flexed him earlier in the year if I recall.
'11: Minimum Goal: Win 10 games again
'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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Flexing something that's slight of build
is about all that offense could do.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jul 2, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was soooo painful to watch.
I was hoping they could put together something, anything together against Nevada. Their defense deserves better.
FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.
Probably about as painful for BC folks
as watching JB’s “500 offense” was for us.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Jul 2, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Quite Possibly.
At least our sometimes, and I mean SOMETIMES resulted in some crazy stuff, Notre Dame game on the road, last win in the swamp. With their offense, that was never a possibility. So probably even more painful.
FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.
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I thought you were talking about that awful rapper at first.
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I plan to make this game from Houston
because I think it has the setup to be a better game than we might want it to be. Nothing like watching Thursday night games in the cold on tv, except being there in person.
Nothing like watching Thursday night games in the cold on tv, except being there in person.
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Short-week rest: Equally disadvantegous for both teams?
- It’s both teams 9th game of the season.
- FSU will have just played NC State on home Saturday (guessing 3:30 regional broadcast), preceded by vs. Maryland, @ Duke, and @ WF prior to @Duke .
- If FSU beats Clemson, they will be 5-0 rolling into the game, looking to most likely clinch the division that Thursday night. BC will be 2-3 or 3-2 at that point.
- BC is coming off playing @ Clemson, @ VT, and @ Maryland prior to playing us.
- FSU’s bye week is 5 weeks before BC game.
- BC’s bye week is sandwhiched between @ Clemson and @ VT, meaning they’ll be 3 weeks removed from their bye week when facing us.
I don’t think any of these constitute a striking advantage for one team over the other. But I’d say that BC’s proximity to their bye week gets canceled out by having 3 away games prior to facing FSU, with two of these being very tough and physical games.
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the one thing missing
is us having to travel to them rather than them to us. Definitely a positive for them.
florida boys dont like the cold.
I watched the bonus materials on “The Social Network” DVD, and the first date of shooting was around the November 3rd, the day of our game. Snow was all over the ground while Jessie Eisenberg was running around. That was likely an unseasonably cold moment for Boston, but still.
Also have to factor that Alumni Stadium pumps band sound through their sound system and strobes the opposing offense with the scoreboard.
by The K-Man on Jul 3, 2011 12:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Getting into Chestmut Hill for a Saturday game is pain enough in the ass already...
I can’t imagine how sucky a Thursday night game will be there. I liked their stadium when I was there, but if they really want to remedy their attendance problems (if it can really be done at all in a pro-town like Boston) I feel like they need to get their games out of Chestnut Hill…which is infinitely easier said than done.
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Play them where, Foxboro?
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Not unless they want to end up like Miami.
Foxboro is too far from campus (20-25 miles) and probably too expensive to boot. They also sunk a lot of money into Memorial Stadium a few years back if I recall. Throw in the fact their hockey/basketball arena is attached to the football stadium (some luxury boxes overlook both the stadium and arena floors) and I don’t know that there is a solution at all. It’s why I said moving their games is infinitely easier said than done.
The bottom line, I think, is still interest. You have a good but not great college team in a pro town that demands titles…and it doesn’t seem like BC will ever be in a position to compete for a title. Even their best chances for a conference title seem to have passed by unrealized. With FSU and Clemson recruiting at such a high level, it will be difficult to increase local interest and raise attendance.
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I didn't really think Foxboro was a good idea, but I didn't know what other plausible ideas there might be.
Thought maybe you had some. If they want better attendance they have to keep the ND series going as long as possible and they should probably start something with UConn. Other than that they don’t have much chance at improving attendance. They’re far from any other ACC schools. Small student/alumni base. In a market that doesn’t put BC first. Not a great program. They are what they are.
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I wish I did have a few plausible ideas.
I had a great time when I went up for our game in ’05 except for getting to the campus (should have taken the train), finding out about their restrictions on tailgating, and getting out after the game. All that was a nightmare.
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were the restrictions related to the school being Catholic?
i.e. no public drunkenness? after all, the general rule for Catholics is “if it feels good, stop”
"I guess they have a reputation of being more of a tricky team and not being tough. You hit ‘em in the mouth, and they don’t like it. Other teams that have beat them just hit them in the mouth, so that’s what we started out with.’’ - Nick Moody
I think it's because Chestnut Hill doesn't cut BC any slack.
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BC Fan Here
Chestnut Hill is technically part of Newton, and it’s a very wealthy suburb of Boston. The neighbors give BC tons of crap and fight them on every move. The bottom line is tailgating rules generally limit tailgates to 3 hours before and 2 hours after kickoff (no tailgating after for night games). It’s sucks and is unfortunate but it’s a downside of being located in major city and not out in the country where land is plentiful and cheap. BC recently bought land across the stress but I don’t know how much that is going to help with regards to tailgating.
by 31southst on Jul 4, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What he said.
Thanks for the clarification about Chestnut Hill being part of Newton and the exact timing of the tailgating limitations. I had it in my head for some reason that it was only two hours before and 90 minutes after. Always like to keep my facts straight.
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Ah, Newton. Is that where they make figs?
I was looking at FSU’s Booster Parking Map the other day. Apparently our lots only open 5 hours before kickoff. That may technically be the rule but I have a hard time believing there aren’t some people at the stadium by noon for 7/8pm kickoffs. Perhaps someone on here can clarify that for me.
And it’s about time a BC person came on here. There are usually a few of you that wonder over whenever a BC topic comes up and I was waiting for your guys’ thoughts.
Where exactly do you guys tailgate?
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It depends
Different donations get you different spots. The “best” ones are a few of the parking lots and Shea field.
The lots around the rec center?
Just don’t see many lots on/around campus or many open areas. Reason I asked. And you can park on your baseball field/football practice fields?
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