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Noles News 08.10.11: FSU Practice Day Two

FSU returned to practice yesterday for its second day in helmets and shorts. I'll summarize the Seminoles' practice in one paragraph because I know y'all are busy.

Fisher was again pleased with the team's attitude. He said there were some mistakes, but that they were tolerable with how much FSU was able to install. RB Chris Thompson was held out (back) as a planned precautionary measure and RB Jermaine Thomas missed practice with migraines. Fisher praised freshmen Devonta Freeman and James Wilder, Jr. in their absence. Fisher said Freeman had the jump on Wilder because of Spring practice (as we said). Fisher said the team needs Thomas and that he is a very good back. Fisher says attitude and competition is what sticks out about this team. He said the tempo isn't different, but the program is not new to them now. Avis Commack is not moving back to offense, and is doing well at DB. The freshmen are overwhelmed, but the tempo of practice helps them get more reps, and Fisher is very impressed with their maturity. Fisher was surprised and pleased with how much size freshman interior offensive lineman Austin Barron put on. Nigel Bradham is an extremely vocal leader now as a senior.

Ok, I lied. Two paragraphs. Telvin Smith is strictly at Mike linebacker. Fisher said he is fine with a 215-pound Mike linebacker because playing linebacker is all about instincts. Reading into this more, Fisher also means to say (didn't expound much on this) that he is extremely jazzed about the defensive line being able to keep blockers off of Telvin. Trust me, FSU would not play a 215-pound Mike linebacker if that linebacker had to shed a lot of blocks. Fisher also went into stuff we've covered previously about the need to play Telvin against passing/spread teams, and the need for the Mike to get quality depth drops when playing quarters and Tampa-2 coverage (Can't play cover-3 every snap, haha). If Fisher is that confident in this line, so should you be. And to think, no seniors! So Telvin Smith running free of blockers. If he starts 14 games and the line keeps him free of blockers, he could easily best 120 tackles, as his instincts are unparalleled. 

The time has come for Florida State receivers - Tallahassee Florida State Seminoles | Examiner.com
This is a subject that has been discussed repeatedly over the past year and off-season. Florida State needs their talented group of receivers to step up to the plate. A combined 8 years of experience for the trio of Bert Reed, Willie Haulstead and Rodney Smith. But with Nick O'Leary, Jimbo can threaten them with going double-tights as a base formation and not playing as many receivers.

Ranking Offensive Lines (Fun Stat Nerd Tidbit: LSU) - Football Study Hall
A look at college football's best offensive lines. Please do read the explanation. FSU did not fare too well, thanks in large part to giving up a boatload of sacks to Wake, UVA and BYU early in the year when Datko and Sanders were hurt.

Improved FSU could give ACC's reputation a boost | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper
The Atlantic Coast Conference's reputation has taken plenty of hits in recent years. Jimbo Fisher figures it's time to change that.

Chat: Chat with Heather Dinich - SportsNation - ESPN

I feel that BC is unfairly punished each year because of the small-school fanbase. Could you name any other program that if they had both the pre-season Offensive and Defensive players of the year would be picked fourth in their division? Heather Dinich  (1:40 PM) You make a great point. With two of the best players in the league you'd think expectations would be higher. Here's the thing, though: FSU has three running backs who could put up Montel Harris-type numbers. Other teams are deeper.

Exactly. Montel Harris would not start for FSU.

The ITB Preseason 2011 Top 10

#6 Florida State: The Noles are set up to run through the ACC, again. They closed out the season in big fashion putting the screws to Sakerlina in the Chick-fil-A Bowl and reaching their first ACC championship game since 2005. Expect them to be back in Charlotte this year. EJ Manuel is finally taking full control of Jimbo's offense, he's like the kid who got had to wait until his older brother left for college to get his true shine on. This is his year and with Brandon Jenkins and Greg Reid highlighting a defense that has another year in the system under their belt he's capable of taking the Noles the distance if they can get past the Sooners.

Rivals

Pre-Snap Read: #24-Miami

There’s talent here. And plenty of experience across the board: a senior at quarterback, seniors at receiver, seniors along the interior of the offensive line, on the defensive line and at linebacker. Hopefully, Miami now has the coaching to take advantage of its talent and experience. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves and begin thinking about 2012, as that’s a different story altogether. Golden will need to really get to work on the recruiting trail, searching for immediate-type prospects, to overcome the losses that await after this season. But in this coming year, the Hurricanes have all the pieces to win nine games. Here’s what needs to be addressed: quarterback, offensive tackle, middle linebacker, cornerback. Yeah, Harris is an enormous question mark. All he needs is mental work, however, and I think the coaching change will provide him with the fresh start his career so desperately needed. Along the line, perhaps Henderson can return at some point this season and provide a boost. Middle linebacker: Spence can move if needed, so Miami has that trump card – though I don’t think Golden wants to do that. Cornerback is and will remain an issue throughout the year, in my mind, and it’s the primary reason why the defense might take a slight step back. Above all else, bringing in a replacement for Shannon – not even that it’s necessarily Golden, but any replacement – will be the biggest reason why Miami should step into a national ranking in 2011. That it’s Golden, a no-nonsense coach who has immediately reinstated accountability on the roster, is the icing. I like Miami to really bounce back in 2011.

The Florida Fix: Charlie Weis is the last, best hope to salvage the Gators’ John Brantley experience - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Weis is a really good offensive coach. And not much of a head coach. Good and detailed rehash of what I wrote months ago.

OU LB Travis Lewis to miss up to 8 weeks - Crimson And Cream Machine
He is arguably OU's best defensive payer. But OU is super deep at linebacker.

Star-divide

Other CFB

New Classification Scheme - Every Day Should Be Saturday
Just read it. Wow.

Pre-Snap Read: #25-Houston

Houston’s not going to run through the season undefeated, thanks to this defense, but the offense will be good enough to win 10 games and the Conference USA West division. Sound familiar? That’s nearly a verbatim quote from last year’s preview, and I have no problem with that: new year, same story — minus the injuries, Houston hopes. Keenum’s return spells an offensive resurgence of sorts, as while the Cougars still moved the ball with ease in 2010 the offense certainly missed its Heisman hopeful under center. If healthy, Keenum will be the most prolific quarterback in college football; if he’s healthy, U.H. will again rank among the five most potent offensive teams in the country. And that, if for no other reason, is why Houston is going to win 10 games. Yeah, there’s a lot riding on health. You can say that about countless teams across the country, however, and Houston has good enough depth at receiver and running back though — and maybe even quarterback, though that’s a frightening scenario — to suffer an injury or two and still keep racking up the points. It’s the defense, once again, that’ll keep U.H. from making a run towards the B.C.S., though there’s a fair chance that the Cougars are able to finish the regular season 12-0. I think the front seven is going to be better, but the secondary is a tremendous concern. S.M.U., for instance, could pass for 500 yards on the Cougars. But the offense will offset the defensive liabilities. And when all is said and done, Houston will be one of the four or five best non-B.C.S. conference teams in the country. To me, anything less than 10-2 in the regular season would be a disappointment.

Pre-Snap Read: #26-UGA

Georgia’s primed for a bounce-back year, complete with a run towards 10 wins and a shot at the SEC East division. There’s no reason why the Bulldogs can’t even make noise on the national stage; there’s just one caveat: we’ve said the same of Georgia over the last two years only to be disappointed, so I think the safest bet is to sit back and wait for signs of life from a program once full of vim and vigor, now desperately searching for a spark. To keep that metaphor going, Georgia’s sitting on a bed of coals — the talent, the hunger, the schedule — and needs only someone, or something, to light the match. I think the Bulldogs will find a spark from a new-look defensive front, which could be very good, and a secondary that ranks among the top half of the SEC. So what’s holding Georgia back? There are question to address. Will Jenkins and Geathers provide the push the line needs on the nose? Can the youngsters at linebacker play up to their potential? What about the new receiver corps? Crowell at running back? Most of all, what about a thin and untested offensive line? Those are the sort of questions that prevent Georgia from being a real national contender, and those are the sort of issues that have many discounting the Bulldogs heading into 2011. I can’t necessarily disagree with those question this team’s resume at these crucial spots, but I do think they’re a bit overblown. This team looks much better than it was a year ago: there are question marks to address, but I feel like I may one day regret placing the Bulldogs here, not among the top 20 teams in the country.

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Damnit

There went the work day! :)

by StM on Aug 10, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I know you dont mind pointing out spelling/grammar slips

" FSU would not play a 215-pound Mike linebacker if that linebacker had to shed a lot of blockst"

by LetsGoNoles on Aug 10, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

sticks not sicks

Fisher says attitude and competition is what sicks out about this team.

by 93noleman on Aug 10, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed, thanks.

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 10, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is time to get serious Frank

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by DocHoliday2 on Aug 10, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is an excellent pattern to hang onto Frank

It always comes in handy

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by DocHoliday2 on Aug 10, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had one too

“the kid who got had to wait”

Fixed on site.

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by InTheBleachers on Aug 10, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed, thanks.

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 10, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think enough is being made about this being the second year of real coaching for a lot of our players.

Second year of Gran, Elliot, Stoops, and Hudson. That really makes a world of difference. I know we touched on this last year, but I think its even more important this year.

by Cjones6121 on Aug 10, 2011 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Good stuff, Bud.

One of my favorite parts of the morning.

by PullingGuardGator on Aug 10, 2011 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I have always expected Nigel Bradham to be a great player at FSU and in the NFL.

He has been good but looks like there is just 1 or 2 things missing. Maybe he was in the wrong position or having to cover for weaker DL players or never totally confident in the safties. Hope he reaches his potential and quickly.

by Jbeau on Aug 10, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

had the second worst position coach on the team.

Possibly a dead heat for 1 and 2.

FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.

by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense question

Are we expecting the line to try to absorb blockers so LBs can flow to the ball, since we don’t have DTs who are tiny anymore and we’ll get all the pass rush we need from the DEs?

by RenegadeRev on Aug 10, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm no expert

but that seems like the case to me.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Aug 10, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, Yes.

DE’s forcing the edge while the DTs absorb and push. Essentially the theoretical perfect pocket collapse in passing situations. Not the wide-9 technique gues that fly for the QB’s back shoulder but guys taking a path through the tackle’s outside half forcing the QB to step up and the DT’s pushing the interior line back into his lap.

In the run game the DTs will control their gaps, force the plays to push towards the edge and without guards on the linebackers they can flow freely to maintain gap integrity.

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by InTheBleachers on Aug 10, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stoops loves a coverage sack

but we have a lot of options including X corner blitzing in the nickel

Key to getting a lot of sacks is putting them in second and third and long.

Finally, we got burned by qb scrambles (think NCState game) and face more two threat qbs than Peyton Mannings, so a pocket containing rush is what Stoops will likely be looking for.

by gambelero3 on Aug 10, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many times have we seen a FSU end rush right past the play and basically take himself out of the game.

Sitting there watching and wondering wtf is he doing.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wide 9

The wide 9 will do that. They’re set up to out sprint the tackles, not squeeze down the line.

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by InTheBleachers on Aug 10, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

In short, yes.

That’s why Telvin Smith has been moved to the Mike(I’m presuming). Smith is definitely undersized, but the line should be able to keep blockers off of him allowing him to roam free. And as Bud said his instinct are amazing, he knows where to be to make a play. So big things can be expected of him this season.

by Noleforever9399 on Aug 10, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like the word "absorb" here.

Just a personal preference. I’d prefer our DT/NG wreak havoc on OL and the OL be the ones absorbing us.

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by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Telvin Smith

I loved watching him track down people on special teams last year. I’m pretty excited about him being on the field a lot this coming year.

by TimScribble on Aug 10, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

One of my favorite players to watch

Despite his size. Just love his instincts and aggression

by truenole87 on Aug 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

He looks like he can be an impact player on defense this season.

by Noleforever9399 on Aug 10, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Terminator would like to be referred to as such.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

since when is Telvin the Terminator?

did I miss the memo? so now theres a Terminator and Germanator?

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 11, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really want

to see these freshman get some reps in the first 2 games. NLS? Really? What a bouncer!

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

The first 2 games are there to let the first string gel.

And to work the 2nd string in a little not to see the new guys that won’t be getting PT this year. They work out mistakes, timing and substitutions. It preps the team that will be playing OU this year.

by Jbeau on Aug 10, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe thats what the first halves of those games are for

But I doubt we see much 1st or 2nd team after the 3rd Q

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by AMFKNole on Aug 10, 2011 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

2 half games of play

Isn’t a whole lot of reps for the first team to be ready of OU

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by caine115 on Aug 10, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe they get the playbook before they enroll

Maybe not the whole thing for security reasons but some versions.(just guessing)

by Deaux on Aug 10, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would be surprised to see him get 6 carries this year.

The RB’s that get to play will be the one’s they know will protect EJ. That is why JT got more playing time than CT last year. I really doubt that you see many freshman get minutes on offense. Wilder and Freeman will see a lot of time as sophomores. Just have to put in the time.

by Jbeau on Aug 10, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

JT got more playing time?

Do you have a play break down?

CT got 50%+ more carries. Doubt CJF would be as transparent as to only put CT in on running plays.

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by PalmAireNole on Aug 10, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carries

CT : 134
JT: 86

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by Marmaduke1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, JT had 10 more total carries and more carries in 5 of the nine games played before he went down.

The Clempsun game when he went down they both finished with 3 carries each. Then CT took over from there and a big part of the difference in his total carries came in the Florida (17) and USCe (25) games.

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 10, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think Wilder is going to be a better RB that most people expect

not this year, of course. Jimbo seemed impressed with his work in practice yesterday, his dad is an NFL RB (full-time, personal coach) and his work ethic is high.

I do hope, however, that we see him get PT in garbage time and even in short yardage situations in non-garbage time.

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 10, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was under the impression that he and his father were not that close. He did live with some white family in westchase while in HS. Maybe I’m wrong.

by DoubleNickel on Aug 10, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was assuming, I don't know.

I have heard that their running styles are similar… maybe someone can confirm both.

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 10, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Believe that was his tutor.

But if he was really at Westchase someone from Alonso should have tried to bring him in.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Aug 10, 2011 12:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Montel Harris wouldn't start at FSU?

Whew…. thats a tough call right there. He’s pretty damn good. I’d take him over JT and Ty for sure.

by NoleSoulPole on Aug 10, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

BC always has a pretty good offensive line.

IMO that’s the biggest reason he’s performed as well as he has.

by jenolesone on Aug 10, 2011 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

wouldn’t doubt it, I wish we could have seen him at tailback. But he is just too good at what he does

by DoubleNickel on Aug 10, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Harris would be an awesome fullback

Not that we don’t have a great one now but….

Harris gets a shot on Sundays, I bet.

by Sobering on Aug 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fullback?

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by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he would get lost in the shuffle.

Its different having to fight for playing time in a backfield like ours. It isnt a #1/#2 situation with us. Its a #1a, #1b, #1c, #1d. Talent wise, we have five backs with his skills or comperable.

The only reason Montel runs for so much is because he is their only premier back and has been. He had a 72 yard run against us that ballooned his stats in that game. The games two weeks prior (ND and NCst) he had 28 and 53. His avg yards a rush (4.6) are the lowest on his team besides their FB and two yards behind any of our backs. He just touches the ball 270-300 times a year.

Montel Harris WOULD NOT start at FSU.

For comparison CT had 133 carries

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by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still wish Telvin could put some size on

I’m happy that our DL has the size and ability to absorb blocks up front, but I still would rather see all of our LBs to be at least 225. Is Telvin north of 210 yet?

Also, what am I missing about Moody and Telvin’s skill sets that we couldn’t move Moody to LB? I’m not sure if Telvin is fast enough for safety, but if Moody can play back there taking poor angles, I’m sure Telvin could be solid with his natural instincts. Can anyone give me a breakdown of why Moody shouldn’t be moved to LB? I understand at this point we wouldn’t make that switch, but I assume it wasn’t made during the summer for a reason.

by moneyNOLE24 on Aug 10, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

It may be a tough

move to LB from safety. 2 very different roles.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Moody's safety position is essentially another LB position.

Granted I know it isn’t exactly the same, but I was under the impression free safety under Stoops was like an quasi olb position.

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by PalmAireNole on Aug 10, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Listen to Jimbo..

He constantly talks about Telvin’s instincts. If Moody had the same instincts and discipline that Telvin has, the Moody discussion would be about him being an all american, and not whether or not he should start.

by Iota1410 on Aug 10, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly sure what this post is about or in response to?

Not sure anyone has claimed either one is an all American.

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by PalmAireNole on Aug 10, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Telvin's size isn't more important than his instincts.

While JF would prefer a bigger body, he won’t sacrifice insticnts and discipline to get it. If Moody was as good at LB as Telvin, Moody’s size and physicality would make him an AA.

I just pre-ordered my SI 2012 FSU Championship Package.

by Jamil Dawson on Aug 10, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Telvin really weighs 216 like it say on the roster,

then he has barely adequate size to play LB, given the fact that he has super low body-fat (it would not be acceptable if Telvin were not all bone and muscle below the chin). Telvin at 225 pounds would be an absolute beast.

by GoNoles2011 on Aug 10, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Instincts, speed, tackling form all trump Telvin’s size.

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by Marmaduke1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

The kid will be a star in the middle and he has a big DLine in front of him as well as two 240+ lbs beast on each side in Bradham and Jones. He will be fine. Spence isn’t 225 lbs, and he is the best LB on the canes team. Geno Hayes, Kendall Pope……..never reached 220+ but definitely had the instincts and tackling ability to be successful at LB at FSU.

by NoleFanAtUCF on Aug 10, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Geno got paid.

One of my favorite individuals at FSU. But he is becoming a very good NFL db. GO BUCS!

He was a land shark! He would always run around the field with arms cocked back and with that neck brace. Looking to blow through someone.

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by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with your comment,

but will pretend you said “Momo’s large…pizza,” as a former employee of said establishment.

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by amandell3000 on Aug 10, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

those Momo's stromboli/calzones would do the trick as well

“Hmmm, I’m hungry. So hungry that I want to eat something with the exact dimensions of an NCAA-approved football. I know, Momo’s calzone!!!”

by The K-Man on Aug 10, 2011 1:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Momo's

Now that’s a pizza joint that I make sure I visit everytime I go to Tally for games

by I275Nole on Aug 10, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do like Momo's

but it has gotten real hipster (no offense to any hipsters). Used to go there all the time freshmen year but now they play the music way too loud for me to even sit down and have a convo with someone across the table. Solid pizza for sure

by KHow on Aug 10, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Decent Pizza! Same exact pizza as Momos without the ridiculous wait.

by Garnet Sox on Aug 10, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been away from Tally for 6 1/2 years now

but Decent Pizza would be my first meal if I go back to visit.

by randlieb on Aug 10, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

But all of the Hipster glory of Momo's.

I lived literally 100 feet from Decent Pizza for 18 months and didn’t go there once. Damned, dirty hipsters.

by The K-Man on Aug 10, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

truth

:/ hipsters.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Momo's?

It’s good, but I’m going to Gordos

by MarchantWarchant on Aug 11, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

gross that place was awful

if you want real cuban food go to carlos’ on tennessee

"Kill a fly with an axe"

by SteadfastNole on Aug 11, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

your dating yourself here

Carlos’ has been closed for awhile…

by fsugrizz on Aug 11, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

daaaaaaaang

I graduated in 2006 and that place had been there forever. I went back a few times after that even, maybe 07,08.

"Kill a fly with an axe"

by SteadfastNole on Aug 11, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where on Tennessee?

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by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

corner of tennessee and gadsden

right next to cypress

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by SteadfastNole on Aug 11, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right thinking

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Aug 10, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's always better to have both the ability and the size

No one said he isn’t a ball player, just when we’ve hung our hat on getting bigger everywhere its somewhat disconcerting well end up with a small LB at the position where size is most crucial.

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Aug 10, 2011 1:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Coach Fisher dispelled that thinking yesterday

with his explanation. In our scheme, he doesn’t feel size is the most crucial there, he feels coverage ability is.

by truenole87 on Aug 10, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The size thing is a TN thing.

It isnt the end all be all.

Probabilities and Possibilities people.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Na, it’s a Jimbo thing.

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 10, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless you're a team with a schedule like Boise or play in the Big East

size is an issue if you want to contend with the “big” dogs. Having size along the line affords better leverage at the point of attack. Thats a fundamental element of the game imho.

"I'm the one with big mistakes, big regrets and bigger breaks than I'd ever care to confess. Oh, but You're the one who looks at me and sees what I was meant to be - more than just a beautiful mess. - Matthew West

by FSUvaFan on Aug 11, 2011 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's what they're working with

SLB
1 Tony Jefferson* So. 5-10; 199
5 Joseph Ibiloye** Jr. 6-3; 219

MLB
21 Tom Wort* So. 6-0; 229
55 Jaydan Bird** Jr. 6-2; 236

WLB
28 Travis Lewis*** Sr. 6-2; 227
7 Corey Nelson* So. 6-1; 219

by NoleLaw on Aug 10, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're all small

Or they’re sandbagging

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Aug 10, 2011 1:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Telvin has exceptional instincts and an exceptional tackler

he’s perfect for the Mike position at FSU.

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 10, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Think Geno Hayes re: Telvin

Never played over 215 at FSU. Quite productive tenure, though, to say the least.

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Geno had a "meh" interior DL in front of him

not the continual rotation of 300 pounders that Telvin will have.

Better known as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 10, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

PRE

cisely.

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

depth

I imagine…we’ve recruited well at LB and still need the depth/experience at safety. Plus the open competition for pt between parks and moody should push both to get better. Iron sharpens iron, steel on steel, etc.

by JaxNole on Aug 10, 2011 10:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Heather Dinitch

is so worthless. Every answer she gives is more generic than the last.
David (NC)
What do you think about the timing of the butch davis firing?

Heather Dinich (1:08 PM)
Couldn’t have been worse.

Thanks Captain Obvious. How about next answer you go into a little more depth. Maybe give some insight or complete a sentance. Can I have her job? I can do it.

Dave: Old Buc, how well will FSU do this year given the attrition in roster depth and increased expectations on freshman?

Old Buc: Good. Next question.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I doubt it

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

She's definitely improved.

I just pre-ordered my SI 2012 FSU Championship Package.

by Jamil Dawson on Aug 10, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think it has much to do with her gender

more with the fact that shes the ACC blogger for ESPN and isnt the best at her job. What dumb male pundits are you referring to? The worst is Bianchi and no here one gives him love

>>>─────;;─►

by NorFla_Nole on Aug 10, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

and no one here gives him love*

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bianchi is a talented writer.

He weaves some interesting stories with drama and attention-grabbing lines. That doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s a groveling weiner and his content isn’t vomit-inducing at times, but he is talented as a writer.

by The K-Man on Aug 10, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I dont mind the writers so much, as I tend to read with the mentality that they have a huge amount of material to cover

my frustration is with announcers, especially Craig James

"I get tired of these recruiting services trying to say who is the best prospect in the country and who i should be recruiting. I really can't stand that NFL guy, what's his name? Mel, yeah Mel Kiper Jr. He knows about as much about football as a Japanese space pilot."

by NorthernHaze on Aug 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I just really hate Craig James.

by fsugrizz on Aug 10, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You and me both, buddy.

I think he got Leach fired for sitting his entitled son on the bench.

by Nole Resurrected on Aug 10, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was only a rumor that Craig James killed 5 hookers at SMU

by paperjames on Aug 10, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No they were already dead

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is only a baseless accusation that Craig James killed five hookers while at SMU. I don’t know where people are hearing this rumor that Craig James killed five hookers while at SMU.

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on Aug 11, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

the 5 is a rumor

it was closet to 8

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115

by caine115 on Aug 11, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

closer*

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115

by caine115 on Aug 11, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he had played at a Gator Bowl,

he would have received a luggage trunk to stuff the dead hookers in.

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 11, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a known fact that Craig James killed 5 hookers at SMU.

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 10, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, didn't see the previous comments. But it's true because I read it somewhere on the WWW.

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 10, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've actually never heard of this story

Would you mind giving me an abridged version?

by BostonNole on Aug 10, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Craig James

+SMU*5 hookers=murder

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA

…. alright maybe a little bit more info

by BostonNole on Aug 10, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So basically

all I am finding on the WWW is that this is a running joke on everyday should be saturday and that I am a complete idiot for not reading the sarcasm font earlier.

Apologies (Z)

by BostonNole on Aug 10, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent pattern to keep on hand Frank

It always comes in handy

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.....Thomas Jefferson

"My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference." - President Harry S. Truman

by DocHoliday2 on Aug 10, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh snap, I mentioned him, too...

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

When the crappy-journalist convo starts up

hes the first one that comes to mind

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 11, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

HD

isn’t bad at what she does because she is female I can assure you. Erin Andrews a female analyst and she is a lot hotter more informative than Dinich. I gave an example of what make HD bad. She gives no insight with her ansers and writes surface level article.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Answers

Before the spelling police catch it

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you look at the time of the questions and answers you will see she does this live.

She gives those answers without receiving the questions ahead of time. She shows a detailed knowledge of the programs when you consider she has to cover all 12 ACC schools.

And it was a stupid question. Of course the timing was terrible. What more is there to say?

by SDnole on Aug 10, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The timing was terrible

she could have added, “Now NC will have to……” The players……" “The fans….” “I talked to….”

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Not ugly, more like a “MAW” (Might as Well)

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

aahhahahahahaa
Andrews is pure hot garbage behind a desk, absolutely worthless. She needs to go back to the sideline.

Rec

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 10, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beadle is much better


Even though not the same job

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115

by caine115 on Aug 10, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, she is not.

Erin andrews : hot girls discussing sports :: Los : badass safety prospects

I think this analogy might be stuck in my head for a while.

"I get tired of these recruiting services trying to say who is the best prospect in the country and who i should be recruiting. I really can't stand that NFL guy, what's his name? Mel, yeah Mel Kiper Jr. He knows about as much about football as a Japanese space pilot."

by NorthernHaze on Aug 10, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say Michelle

seems to know a lot more about sports then Erin. She can do a show from the desk. I dont mind her.

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115

by caine115 on Aug 10, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never been able to sit through an episode of Sportsnation honestly

But EA is so overrated it’s insane. I don’t get it she’s like every other pretty girl in the south.
Then again I’m honestly not into the Blond thing so much.

The Funk Phenomenon.

by willdabeast on Aug 10, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That show blows arse.

Not sure if it’s because Cowherd blows arse or because the show just sucks. Probably a combination.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favre and I would pick Jenn Sterger

over Erin Andrews every time. Maybe because we both are 42?

I’d be a touch more smooth about picking her than Favre, however.

by GoNoles2011 on Aug 11, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd take your watch off before sending her pics of your junk?

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

HD gets way too hard of a time here.

When I first started reading her stuff I thought it was a little shallow, but she’s much better now. I think her gender plays a role in whether people take her seriously, but I think more than anything it’s just comparisons to this site.

by SDnole on Aug 10, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Challenge

Find one article she has written in which the information she provided wasn’t already common knowledge.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Common to a 5 year old

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just asked my 5 year old nephew about her last 10 articles

And he had no knowledge of the information given outside of Miami’s turnover issues.

Of course, he boils the entity of Da U down to, “Miami sucks,” so he’s clearly up to date there.

Why is it every time I get 3 stars of police notoriety on GTA IV, Al Golden calls me asking for my commitment?

by Sir Lawrence J on Aug 10, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry Sir, your nephew may be a 5 year old

..but he is certainly not common. He’s clearly advanced for his years. I didn’t realize Miami until at least the 1st grade.

by SDnole on Aug 10, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm training him well

Why is it every time I get 3 stars of police notoriety on GTA IV, Al Golden calls me asking for my commitment?

by Sir Lawrence J on Aug 11, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're spoiled by TN.

 I have plenty of friends who attend FSU who follow that ESPN ACC blog for their FSU information.

by Blake Davis on Aug 10, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOHH WRECKED!

That would be awesome!!

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

She is not the worst.

She is one of the worst. Last year was alot better but how do people forget the strong bias in her writing the years prior.

She isnt even a ACC fan.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

She would still suck even if she had male genitalia.

Hate it when people act like race or sex are reasons for peoples’ dislike of someone when it’s clearly not. I guess people rag on Bianchi because they hate ugly, bad people. How dare they.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

SHOW ME YOUR GENITALS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

The fact that she is a female can only help her case. I think it is hot when a woman can speak to any sport. If she were a man, not everyone whould be so quick to defend her. All I know is when I read her articles I feel dirty afterwards.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

bad = bald

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

We would OWN the "New World Subdivision"

And Iowa, UNC, and Tennessee would be our only Homo Sapien challengers. Easy road to the EDSBS MNC!

by Nolesos Locos on Aug 10, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Bobby Hart is high-waisted

http://warchant.zenfolio.com/p631962515/e3edf9cbf#h10385761

Generally, that’s a knock on an OL. Being low-waisted (i.e., short legs, long torso) means you need physically less muscle/effort to squat down. Longer legs (from being high-waisted) require more effort/concentrated movement to achieve a good bend. Most “waist-benders” (bend over instead of squat down to get low) are high-waisted.

Note that this can be over come with effort and training. Must be redshirted IMO.

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Aug 10, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Also isn't he like 16 or something?

I’d redshirt him regardless just because of his age.

by FSUKook on Aug 10, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

JMO

from that pic, it’s not obvious that Hart is high-waisted. To be sure I think you’d need to actually measure the kid (head to toe, then waist to toe, then get a ratio).

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 10, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do it visually

Rueben Carter is lower-waisted.

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

and a huge

rig. You don’t want to look at the fellow from behind. Too much shade.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Aug 10, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are you saying

He does not have a good work ethic?

At least I have Chicken!

-Leeroy Jenkins

by NoleCzar on Aug 10, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soooo

you hate Bobby Hart?

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems a little ridiculous

to slag a guy’s work ethic on the third day of practice of his freshman year.

Somebody please tell me how he became a 5-star OT as a young 16-year old playing at the highest level of HS competition without having a work ethic. I thought that playing for George Smith meant you worked hard, or else you did not play.

by GoNoles2011 on Aug 10, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering his screen name is STAquinas Nole, I'm assuming he knows something about Bobby from there

I was never aware of a service that rated him a 5 star player either. Not trying to be a dick but his opinion (assuming he knew Bobby previously) is worth more than someone who has never seen or met the young man. Often times when you go to HS with a player you learn more about them than the common fan. For example, I went to Lincoln and can tell you that the general concensus was that Jabarris Little’s work ethic was horrible. He was still a top 250 player.

by Cody@TN on Aug 10, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I graduated before Bobby even came to St. Thomas

However, I assure you my information comes directly from the locker room at STA about his work ethic, or lack thereof. I can’t tell you if he’s made changes since he graduated from STA, but it’s my understanding that he found reasons to not practice with the other linemen and had some entitlement issues. Granted, he was 15 years old and transferred from nowhere to a national champion football team and accordingly gained some attention.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m very high on Bobby. I think he’s got great size and he’s got his in-game attitude right where it needs to be. Working with Trickett could turn him into a very, very highly coveted NFL player (especially considering his age) and so there are a lot of benefits here for FSU immediately and long-run.

That being said, he has a history work of poor work ethic.

by STAquinasNole on Aug 10, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard rumors at STA that he's soft as well.

He supposedly frustrated the coaches. This is all second hand, but that is what I heard.

by jimmygnole on Aug 10, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is in bootcamp now.

If he can’t man up, he’ll transfer. Trick won’t let him be soft.

by NoleLaw on Aug 10, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s to hoping he does

by STAquinasNole on Aug 10, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto

He has a ton of potential and natural athletic ability.

by jimmygnole on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyway,

case in point look at guys like Xavier Lee. Tell me how hard he worked (spoiler- the answer is “hardly at all”), and look at what he was able to accomplish at the high school level.

by STAquinasNole on Aug 10, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

shhhhh

That wasnt his fault. Obviously the coaching.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at Lee's coaches.

Now look at Hart’s.

Difference? (Answer: EVERYTHING)

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks legitimately 6'4-5" there.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you have a recording device, sure

Without one you will find yourself confused when it ends.

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on Aug 11, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder if right now

there is a SLB in the ACC that could cover Nick O’Leary if FSU went double-tights.

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Aug 10, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

the more film I watch on NOL

the more he looks like a WR and less like a TE when running routes.

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 10, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hell, move him to the slot, the H-back or even split out wide.

match up nightmare anywhere. (we did put Reliford out wide against UF, once)….and he dropped an easy TD.

Better known as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 10, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I can’t WAIT to see that. Maybe like a Garrett Mills from Tulsa a few years ago. Very fun to watch.

by BostonNole on Aug 10, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

maryland maybe?

I hear lots of hype for Tate..

by JaxNole on Aug 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yea, he'd probably be the only guy with a chance

He played safety last year so he must have some speed at SLB

by illinole21 on Aug 10, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

would totally work for basketball too

HAHA

FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.

by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a minimal difference imo.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of our linebackers...

could experience a sort of breakout season because of how much attention our D-line will demand. It was smart for Nigel Bradham to comeback because he never had the opportunity to play behind a D-line that has the size and depth to keep opposing blockers off of him.

by zone3nole on Aug 10, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Cream Machine

sounds like a bad ass ice cream truck with flames whooting out of the exhaust pipes.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Crimson" and "Cream" are OU's official school colors

I come from a family of Sooners (born in Oklahoma raised in Southern California) so obviously I have a lot riding on that contest from a bragging rights perspective. Lol

by westcoastnolefan on Aug 10, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I realize all that.

See my reply to DA-2 above. Sheesh.

by devnole on Aug 10, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought that too when I saw the name

Sounds like the site should host dirty gay porn.

by SDnole on Aug 10, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

wrecked

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 10, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

While no one can dispute Telvin is very good, has good instincts, and could very well be the future Mike, I don't see Vince Williams rolling over and giving up the starting job.

Telvin will be a good situational Mike, but I believe Williams will have played more snaps (barring injury) as we head into the BCS championship game undefeated (goal not expectation).

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 10, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Luc's on the depth chart as an OLB (weakside, I think).

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow Bob Eliot

Way to be a unresearched sell-out and allow spam comments

by Nolesos Locos on Aug 10, 2011 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Bye Bye j298719302

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Aug 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry to those of you

Who missed the outstanding iPod sales.

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Aug 10, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

how long will it take before the joke-that-bud-doesnt-research schtick dies?

I cant wait. At least twss is fading away (slowly)

"I get tired of these recruiting services trying to say who is the best prospect in the country and who i should be recruiting. I really can't stand that NFL guy, what's his name? Mel, yeah Mel Kiper Jr. He knows about as much about football as a Japanese space pilot."

by NorthernHaze on Aug 10, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Would have to research this to get the proper probabilities

Hence, we’ll never know.

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Aug 10, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha. well played!

'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman

by Nattylite on Aug 10, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS?

At least I have Chicken!

-Leeroy Jenkins

by NoleCzar on Aug 10, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't calvin smith the guy who spurned fsu for the long standing tradition at new mexico?

he’s transferring to purdue…
http://twitter.com/#!/ThaRinger/status/101329153084768257

what will his dad do for a living?

by garnetandgold on Aug 10, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

near Purdue?

Disc Jockey for local hootenannies.

by The K-Man on Aug 10, 2011 1:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is his dad Albert Haynesworth?

2011........ The ACC will begin to once again witness the power that is FSU football!

by Scalpemall on Aug 10, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this new classification system representative of a utopian world,

where the Gata do not exist?

What I lack in looks
I more than lack in personality.

by amandell3000 on Aug 10, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Unfortunately not

The formatting is kinda screwy, and they seem to be off the visible page at times. Do a search, and you’ll find them in the REPTILIA SUBDIVISION.

by Invictus13 on Aug 11, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Telvin has great instincts....

I’ve read that about 50 times this thread. What exactly does that mean? Is it really instinct that he is in the right place to make the tackle or is it film review and work ethic?

by FSUKook on Aug 10, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

instincts = reads

he know where the play/ball is going.

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 10, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Instinct is making the play without having to think about it.

To diagnose and react without losing anytime

"Kill a fly with an axe"

by SteadfastNole on Aug 10, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd compare it somebody who can play music by learning the notes from sheet music

Versus someone who plays by ear. Add some hard work and teaching and you’ve got a great musician.

Formerly known as 'stilts'

by BenDNole on Aug 10, 2011 3:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

football instincts-

Not just how quickly the brain tells the body to correctly react, but how quickly the body responds to the input. The quicker the better and in Telvins case, it is extremely quick.

FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.

by onebarrelrum on Aug 10, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always around the football. Always making plays.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, looked through Warchant's Gallery

And all of our players look jacked. It’s crazy. But the picture of Tank Carradine made my jaw drop, dude has put on some muscle/weight.

<img src=" http://warchant.zenfolio.com/p631962515/e3edf9cbf"/>

Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."

by GregJones on Aug 10, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops

Guess you can’t post the image, but the link works.

Dan Patrick: "Is Ponder a good name for a quarterback?"
Christian Ponder: "Why? Because you say I overthink things? is that what you’re trying to imply? As crazy as it sounds, my mom’s maiden name is actually SuperBowlWinner. Isn’t that crazy?"
DP: "Now is that hyphenated?"
CP7: "No, it’s all one word."

by GregJones on Aug 10, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i realize how beaten down this dead horse is...

but every players looks in better shape than last year… they all look ready for beast mode on that field

"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher

by MrEzell on Aug 10, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Day one and Day two photo galleries from warchant have me thinking

we already won the NC!!!!

I can not be any happier with the sheer nastyness of our squad.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 things from this

A.Telvin Smith looks alot bigger than he was last year, good news for us bad news for our opponents
2.Clint Trickett has facial hair. We might see a growth in the weight department soon lol.
D.Tank is a beast. And I think that it speaks to how good Werner is that he beat him out for the starting spot in the spring.
Whatever comes after D.That caption of picture 37 made me lol like they got lazy identifying the players. “QB Will Secord and some OLs” lol

by Noleforever9399 on Aug 10, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pic #23 is hilarious.

Cameraman definitely snapped at the wrong moment.

by FSUActuary on Aug 10, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyler Hunter

also looks physically ready for the college game

by az5950 on Aug 10, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Demps

Is he leaving? Looking threw fall pics him and Waisome are both wearing #6

by atlnolefan on Aug 10, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we post this at the top somewhere

cause I seem to read the same thing about #s 8 times a day. With the same answer

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by caine115 on Aug 10, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly from watching a UF game (of all things)..

the commentators were addressing this and as long as there are no redundant numbers on the field, it doesn’t matter.

That is, of course, assuming that I remember correctly.

by STAquinasNole on Aug 10, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You remember correctly.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN doesnt hate us. ESPN just is contractually obligated to have a Gaytor shaft in their mouths.

Money over EVERYTHING.

They actually gave us alot of unearned love during our down years.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 10, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really feel like people get too worked up about this.

This offseason FSU got more than its fair share of coverage. Jimbo, and EJ were on CFB live multiple times for interviews and they talked about FSU a lot more than most top 25 teams. Just because the Gators get a ridiculous amount of exposure does not mean that the Noles aren’t treated more than fair IMO.

by mn nole on Aug 10, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Besides, I don’t want that kind of coverage. I am happy Jimbo keeps practice closed, it keeps the players focused on football and not the cameramen.

by FSUActuary on Aug 10, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don't need to talk about us now

as long as they are talking about us at the end of the season. Preferably after we have once again won the state championship, reclaimed the ACC championship and in the lead up to our BCS game.

by LeeBelle on Aug 10, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN is on board the hype train.

Almost everyday that I turn on CFB live they mention us.

by Blake Davis on Aug 10, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

In regards to Dinich, I saw this video blog of hers awhile back.

Why would she put that version up and not retake it?
http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/26339/video-hurricanes-not-rebuilding

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 10, 2011 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Jimbo was not happy today.

Thrilled with the defense, said the offense was sloppy— poor running, catching, throwing and blocking. Not a lack of effort but lack of execution (see, last year’s OU game). He was surprised how poor the offense did- all of it, and said EJ has got to get more consistent. Said if they don’t fix it, he will, by replacing peple. Really liked the D though, said LJ was “excellent”.

I was waiting for the coach-speak poor mouthing to start after nothing but praise the last 2 days. This seems to be true about the O, however, in contrast to how well he said the D was executing Of course, if he comes out in the next couple of days and praises the O while dissing the D, his schtick will be pretty transparent.

It is better to fail honorably than to succeed by deceit.

by PeachTreeNole on Aug 10, 2011 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Jimbo qualified it by saying that the run game wasn't so bad

It was just everything in the passing game that was bad. Pass blocking was bad, route running was bad, catching/dropping the ball was bad; EJ making bad decisions; not seeing open guys; not throwing the ball where it needed to be even with the guys he did throw to. He said the whole thing was just poor. He said he expects to have a day or two here or there where mistakes are made but he never expected the execution to be this bad. He said that the running game seemed fine and wasn’t too pleased that some of the runs broke open for long yardage and the D needs to get better at run D. Also said Haggins was having trouble getting off the line against Joyner and that all the talk about Benjamin stops today. Kinda indicated there is no reason to discuss him anymore.

One thing he did say about the offense is that he blamed himself and the coaches for not having prepared them better up to this point. First thought was: Dawsey. Second thought was 2 years ago when the roles were reversed and the O was having their way with the D. The D went on to be ranked what? 106th? 109th? Something like that.

by NoleLaw on Aug 11, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I was thinking “Dawsey” too. This not an elite offense, because our WR are still not there.

One bright spot was the backs breaking some long runs. Since Thompson was out and Thomas playing blue shirt, I’m thinking it was Free, Wild, or both :)

It is better to fail honorably than to succeed by deceit.

by PeachTreeNole on Aug 11, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who was supposed to be moving to FB?

Was it demps? I remember something about this before but forgot the player, it would make sense to be demps since he sis wearing the same number as Waisome

by fsugrizz on Aug 11, 2011 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Freeman

just LOOKS like a running back. #excited

by Shooter McFrattin on Aug 11, 2011 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Recruiting

Hey i was wondering what our chances are of getting OLB Kwon Alexander, OT Andrus Peat, CB Tracy Howard, Josh Harvey-Clemons, and Quay Evans. Bud hasn’t talked much about future prospects, but I was wondering if are chances look good at snagging any of these guys?

by FSU@UNF on Aug 11, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I dont see any of the ones you names

coming to FSU.. Kwon no. Peat. <5%. And I dont really see us in play for the others right now. Probably a better shot at Goldman then all those you mention

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by caine115 on Aug 11, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have a decent shot with Peat, Howard and Harvey-Clemons.

Not likely the leader for any, but we’re apparently in the top 2 or 3 for all of them.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

because according to espn, we were in the running for those guys. (But obviously there wrong lol) has goldman said when he plans to announce??

by FSU@UNF on Aug 11, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

The recruiting discussions have dissected our chances with these guys

multiple times. As things stand today, Kwon is a long shot; Peat is a three-horse race and we are one of the three horses (but not the lead); Howard is a much better possibility than he was at the beginning of the summer, but still no lock by any stretch; Harvey-Clemons is considered a UGA lean with FSU a close second in a two horse race; and Quay Evans is not happening.

by GoNoles2011 on Aug 11, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

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