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Noles News 08.11.11: The Pads Come On

Roy Jones, Jr. (center) visits with sophomore strong-side linebacker Christian Jones (left) and sophomore middle linebacker Telvin Smith (right).

Florida State put on shoulder pads for the first time this Fall, and the results were mixed. Jimbo Fisher said that the offense, which had been very good, did not execute the passing game to his liking. He criticized the quarterback, pass blocking, and receivers. Most of the criticism went to the quarterbacks. Fisher said it was mostly his fault for putting the offense in some tough situations. He expected it to happen, but not to the extent that it did, and he rationalized that by saying it was mostly his fault for running those situations on the third day of camp. He said LT Datko and RT Sanders are a bit rusty, but it is "huge" that they are healthy. Fisher was mostly happy with the defense, but as a Saban disciple, he'll always be irate if the defense gives up any runs, which they did. Fisher said the offense hit some big runs. Saying he wouldn't tolerate mistakes, and clearly happy that he now has better depth at most positions than last season, Fisher said "fix it. fix it, or I'll get somebody else." Fisher said the staff focuses on not praising one side of the ball too much when a play made is really a result of the other side's mistake. Fisher went on and on about how great Lamarcus Joyner is as a player and a competitor. Fisher said how much he like's this team's effort and passion for the game. Overall, he wasn't that displeased.    

Here is an excellent  free gallery of the offensive line. Here is free gallery from Wednesday's practice.

Yesterday's player interviews were with Jared Haggins, Andrew Datko, Lamarcus Joyner and Telvin Smith. Haggins, and other players when asked about him confirmed what we said in the spring: he is extremely tough and very strong for his size. Haggins is the hardest-working receiver and everything he is doing indicates he will be the next Taiwan Easterling in the slot-- a dependable, tough, go-to receiver who is just a very good slot guy. Datko said he went from 267 as a freshman to 320. He was extremely impressed with the size of the new freshmen, and confirmed what we said on Monday (Josue Matias and Tre Jackson are the top game-ready freshmen). Free video of Lamarcus Joyner here. Free video of the Smith interview here. Telvin is hilarious. 

FSU will host an open practice this Sunday at 4 p.m. I know everyone here will go and take a million photos and then send those photos to me.

Florida State Seminoles freshmen: Florida State Seminoles vets pleased by freshmen - OrlandoSentinel.com
Florida State's veteran Seminoles have been pleased by what they've seen so far from the incoming freshmen. The nation's top recruiting class is on display for the first time and it isn't disappointing. Several freshmen could see playing time this season.

Rivals

Swinney, Steele like defense's added depth, flexibility " OrangeandWhite.com
Newcomers and new look at 3-4 scheme give Tigers' defense a jolt this preseason

Eye on the U | Freshman Anthony Chickillo, starter in 3-4 scheme, has been what Canes 'hoped for thus far'

Maryland Launches New Era Under Hands-On Edsall Wires

Extensive Miami Preview

Star-divide

Other CFB

Pre-Snap Read: #24-Air Force

The more I delve into Air Force the more I like. It would be very simple to sit back and place the Falcons far lower, citing the fact that the defensive line is always an issue, the offense always has to replace key starters, there’s rarely ample proven depth — the list continues. You can always say that, actually. And you know what? Every year under Troy Calhoun, Air Force manages to do the following: plays steady, consistent football; never commits the sort of mistakes that lose games; controls the ball and clock; hurts teams through the air when given the opportunity; and offsets a thin defensive front with an always-strong back seven, especially in the secondary. In short, anything less than eight or nine wins is not in the cards. Why I think the Falcons deserves the higher ranking is in part thanks to a schedule that presents ample opportunities to show their worth: T.C.U., Navy, Notre Dame, San Diego State and Boise State are terrific teams, and I think Air Force can take three of those games. If not four, as only Boise State seems like a definite loss. What about the roster? Senior leadership abounds, at quarterback, up front, receiver, running back, linebacker and in the secondary. This seems to me like the best team of the Calhoun era, one that has the sort of talent and experience to really make noise on a national level in 2011. Again, Boise State seems like the only team Air Force cannot beat; they play the games for a reason, on the other hand. Is 11-1 in the cards? No. But is 10-2 in reach? Without a doubt. I think this will be the program’s best team in nearly 15 years.

Debriefing: Auburn goes back to the drawing board - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Complete College Football news, scores, standings

2011 Season Preview: The Chief Executive Officer And The Texas Longhorns - SBNation.com
A look at the 2011 Texas Longhorns football team. Longhorn Football CEO Mack Brown shook up his staff after stock prices plummeted last fall. Will the changes bring excitement back to the company?

Summary and Projection Factors

Below is a small handful of projection and change factors most pertinent to the Football Outsiders' preseason projections you will find in the Football Outsiders Almanac 2011.

Four-Year F/+ Rk 11
Five-Year Recruiting Rk 3
TO Margin/Adj. TO Margin**** -12 / -1
Approx. Ret. Starters (Off. / Def.) 14 (8, 6)
Yds/Pt Margin***** +3.4

If the coaching staff gels even halfway, signs point to Texas bouncing back like round ball. They recovered only 17 of 56 fumbles that took place in their games, a staggering 30.3 percent; in the previous five seasons, only five teams (2007 Wyoming, 2008 Florida, 2009 Florida, 2007 Western Michigan, 2007 Tennessee) recovered fewer than 30 percent of all fumbles. While it's not a guarantee that Texas will automatically fall on more bouncing balls in 2011 (Florida did, after all, land on the list in 2008 and 2009), odds are still pretty good. If they had recovered 50 percent of all fumbles, that would have made a staggering difference of almost plus-1 turnovers per game; in a season where they lost four games by eight points or less, that could have made a significant impact. It wouldn't have made them a truly "good" team, of course (nothing was saving that offense), but at least we'd be talking about their "incredibly disappointing Alamo Bowl season" right now.

So if Texas a) gets at least a small handful of immediate contributions from the incoming, highly-ranked recruiting class (particularly if star running back Malcolm Brown is ready from Day One), b) gets a jolt of energy from a young, hungry group of new assistants, and c) gets a normal number good bounces after a year in which they got none, then there's little reason why they can't be a Top 25 team again in 2011. The pieces are in place for that. But if the new management and the personnel do not immediately click, or, of course, if a lot of their four-star offensive players just simply aren't as good as their Rivals rankings suggest, then it is certainly feasible that improvement will be marginal.

When other talented teams (other Texas teams, for that matter) have a "down season," it means 9-3 and 'only' a Cotton Bowl (or, in other conferences, Outback Bowl or Chick-Fil-A Bowl) bid. Texas' 2010 fall was alarming in its magnitude, no matter what kind of bad coaching and bad breaks were at hand. And no matter how "re-energized" Mack Brown says he is now, there is no guarantee that Texas will simply rebound in 2011 like nothing happened. And because of that, any optimistic projection is full of risk. When you're thinking about the Big 12 this season, you're basically ranking the nine teams not named Texas, then throwing a dart against the wall.

2011 Season Preview: The Chief Executive Officer And The Texas Longhorns - SBNation.com
A look at the 2011 Texas Longhorns football team. Longhorn Football CEO Mack Brown shook up his staff after stock prices plummeted last fall. Will the changes bring excitement back to the company?

Summary and Projection Factors

Below is a small handful of projection and change factors most pertinent to the Football Outsiders' preseason projections you will find in the Football Outsiders Almanac 2011.

Four-Year F/+ Rk 11
Five-Year Recruiting Rk 3
TO Margin/Adj. TO Margin**** -12 / -1
Approx. Ret. Starters (Off. / Def.) 14 (8, 6)
Yds/Pt Margin***** +3.4

If the coaching staff gels even halfway, signs point to Texas bouncing back like round ball. They recovered only 17 of 56 fumbles that took place in their games, a staggering 30.3 percent; in the previous five seasons, only five teams (2007 Wyoming, 2008 Florida, 2009 Florida, 2007 Western Michigan, 2007 Tennessee) recovered fewer than 30 percent of all fumbles. While it's not a guarantee that Texas will automatically fall on more bouncing balls in 2011 (Florida did, after all, land on the list in 2008 and 2009), odds are still pretty good. If they had recovered 50 percent of all fumbles, that would have made a staggering difference of almost plus-1 turnovers per game; in a season where they lost four games by eight points or less, that could have made a significant impact. It wouldn't have made them a truly "good" team, of course (nothing was saving that offense), but at least we'd be talking about their "incredibly disappointing Alamo Bowl season" right now.

So if Texas a) gets at least a small handful of immediate contributions from the incoming, highly-ranked recruiting class (particularly if star running back Malcolm Brown is ready from Day One), b) gets a jolt of energy from a young, hungry group of new assistants, and c) gets a normal number good bounces after a year in which they got none, then there's little reason why they can't be a Top 25 team again in 2011. The pieces are in place for that. But if the new management and the personnel do not immediately click, or, of course, if a lot of their four-star offensive players just simply aren't as good as their Rivals rankings suggest, then it is certainly feasible that improvement will be marginal.

When other talented teams (other Texas teams, for that matter) have a "down season," it means 9-3 and 'only' a Cotton Bowl (or, in other conferences, Outback Bowl or Chick-Fil-A Bowl) bid. Texas' 2010 fall was alarming in its magnitude, no matter what kind of bad coaching and bad breaks were at hand. And no matter how "re-energized" Mack Brown says he is now, there is no guarantee that Texas will simply rebound in 2011 like nothing happened. And because of that, any optimistic projection is full of risk. When you're thinking about the Big 12 this season, you're basically ranking the nine teams not named Texas, then throwing a dart against the wall.

Debriefing: Everything at Florida is new. But improved? - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports 

Debriefing: ‘Bama’s back, with the same bruising BCS blueprint - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports

Debriefing: Kentucky clings to that slightly respectable feeling - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports

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Bud

So your take on yesterday is nothing to be concerned about?

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Aug 11, 2011 9:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Hey at least

we can work out the kinks both the offense and the defense have with cupcakes. Better than having to open with Miami or god forbid OU.

"The helmet doesn't make you, you make the helmet"- Jimbo Fisher

by Matt Champion on Aug 11, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't Fisher always do this?

First few days: “We look great!”
Next day: “We look awful!”

Rinse and repeat

by Nolesos Locos on Aug 11, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've noticed it
Jimbo wants to emphasize getting better at something every day.

"The helmet doesn't make you, you make the helmet"- Jimbo Fisher

by Matt Champion on Aug 11, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly!!

Fisher is a perfectionist and I think this is his way of looking for consistency.

FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
"Winning when playing poorly is the kiss of death." - Nick Saban

by goatnole76 on Aug 11, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Christian Jones = GAM

that dude is scary

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 11, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Best looking LB we've had since Ernie Sims

Whenever I saw Sims around campus my fight or flight instincts imediately kicked in and I’ll let you guess which instinct prevailed.

by moneyNOLE24 on Aug 11, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you

did a lot of running around campus wh?

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115

by caine115 on Aug 11, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec-diculous

"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"

- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)

by YouNoleIt on Aug 11, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the

interview with Fisher he definitely wasn’t happy with the offense, and didn’t like the big runs the D gave up. Third day of practice, first time in pads. I wouldn’t read to much into it.

by Ocalanole on Aug 11, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

seems to me

that there is probably some truth to this, and then there is probably the head coach keeping his guys grounded and making sure that #5 ranking doesn’t get them feeling entitled.

by gasou_nole on Aug 11, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Datko still wearing that shoulder brace

just a precaution, still something to worry about, or after 3 years of wearing it he doesn’t know how to play without it?

by gasou_nole on Aug 11, 2011 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

AC / rotator cuff injuries need extra protection even after surgeries

It’s mean to slightly limit his range of motion so that the shoulder doesn’t come under any odd torquing and risk further injuries.

What are you glorifying with your life?

by ricobert1 on Aug 11, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Terminator: “Special teams is real special to me”.

When asked about what he thinks of the freshman running backs

“Devonta, hes real quick. He cuts quick…” What about JWJ? “Well we havent had pads on yet, but im…. definately gonna put my head on him and see what he got”.

Its whole different ball game when the pads come on? “Of course, you already know that. They doing all this running around, catching slants and stuff. When we get these pads on. Dont get a lil gator arm or whatever”.

I like how he was also excited talking about the veterans on the team.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Telvin and LJ were GREAT interviews!

I think Joyner is going to be an excellent safety. For a football player his answers are so well thought out and relevant… you can tell his mind is on football ALL the time…

by garnetandgold on Aug 11, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joyner said that Mike Harris...

was the best overall cover corner on the team. For him to say that in front of cameras lets me know that the rest of the team and starting cornerbacks (Rhodes & Reid) share the same sentiment and respect for what Harris brings to this team. I just don’t see many big plays against this secondary this year. Could this be the best/deepest overall secondary core group that FSU has ever had at one time???

by zone3nole on Aug 11, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way

go back at look at the Dynasty – are where those guys got drafted

by 93noleman on Aug 11, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol... yea I was thinking...

that I may have over reached considering the dynasty years but maybe when we win the Championship they’ll go down as one of the best groups that FSU has ever had…

by zone3nole on Aug 11, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

1987

Had decent secondary…Deion Sanders, Martin Mayhew, Leroy Butler, and (forgot other safety)

by wjs90 on Aug 11, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nolefan.org

Big time info on FSU sports. Year-by-Year Football Rosters. Starts at 1947… Also has other sports.

by Fsu3211 on Aug 11, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

thought he said Michael Harris was the best DB period.

It is better to fail honorably than to succeed by deceit.

by PeachTreeNole on Aug 11, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta rank up there

The best part is that they’re still young, except Harris. When Williams joins them, look out!

by NoleySmokes on Aug 11, 2011 3:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Telvin

I remember at Fan Appreciation Day last year I got the linebackers to sign a poster and Telvin was cracking jokes and even taking pictures of people. He got one of me and a bunch of other people.
His energy is limitless

by MarchantWarchant on Aug 11, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

He looked like he could hardly sit still for that interview, cant wait to see him on the field.

by Ocalanole on Aug 11, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't say it enough.....

Maryland is going to surprise a lot of people this year.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

That would be nice...Heaven Forbid they beat UM in the first game

The talking heads in Miami have already penciled in a win.

A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2

by PalmAireNole on Aug 11, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

whats your fascination with the Terps?

seems like every other day you bring them up lol

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 11, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buc? or me...I never talk about them...Use the reply.

A wise polish man once said: If you don't look out for #1, you get a hand full of #2

by PalmAireNole on Aug 11, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man honestly

idk. I just think the perfect storm is lining up for MD to be great and UM to fall. Please know that although I am a Nole, I do not want MD to be good and UM to be bad for several reasons.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

you think theyll have that much of a new-coach-boost this year?

and I noticed you added that line in your sig to clear up any misunderstandings about your age haha

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by NorFla_Nole on Aug 11, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha!

I actually thought MD would beat UM before the bet. I wrote that thing on them a few weeks ago. I give UM 5 wins this year and that’s being nice.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe you need to have dinner with Heather Dinnich

In her putting the Canes in her top 25, she had some big “ifs”, the biggest being “if” Jacory can get his head in the game and make smart decisions.

by NoleLaw on Aug 11, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to have dinner with Dinich

So I can convince her to change her career path. (Invite to all HD supports to rush to her defense)

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Maryland beat Miami

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.....Thomas Jefferson

"My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference." - President Harry S. Truman

by DocHoliday2 on Aug 11, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the intriguing part.

So who is a better coach? Who is more likely to have better prepared their team for this year? I say Edsall. Has nothing to do with the fact that it is UM. To be honest UM is one of the teams that interest me most in the ACC,(besides FSU of course). Always have.

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uconn

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Que?

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who won their conference last year: Temple or UConn?

Who was preseason favorites to win their conference last year: Temple or UConn?

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

who?

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 12, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

UConn won. Temple was the favorite (and missed a bowl).

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
You’re right.

by tricknole on Aug 13, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm positive.

UConn won their conference. Temple was the favorite to win theirs and did not.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
You’re right.

by tricknole on Aug 15, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Talent, advantage Miami.
Coaching, based on head to head last year, advantage Miami.
Based on Old Buc not wanting to sport the U logo on his comments, Maryland with the win.

by Nole Resurrected on Aug 11, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can promise you

I am not bias against Um because it is UM. My fam is from Miami, I love Miami, love the Dolphins. Hurricanes are interesting and I def like them more than UF. UM fans? eeehhh…..thats a different story. Dont forget: Temple when from indep. to mac while uconn went from 1-aa to 1-a in the big east, (1st team ever by the way) under edsall and golden. edsall also took uconn to the 1st bowl in school history.. and edsall had most wins at uconn….Al this after going to a tougher schedule unlike golden who played high school ball.

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Golden's Temple

beat Edsall’s Big East Champion UConn last year.

by Nole Resurrected on Aug 11, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

that they did

but overall edsalls resume looks better to me

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

overall edsall

had a better resume at uconn than golden did at temple. And by the way that was temples only suggnificant win last year.

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Bethune Cookman is you 1st win

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSU is going to the SEC

Then UM can be free to win the ACC

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty confident that Obrien will light them UM up in the opener

Obrien is a stud. UM basically has a bunch of converted players at CB except for McGee, who got mixed reviews last year. Ray Ray is a LB playing saftey and they don’t have any depth whatsoever at LB. All that to me equals some really bad pass defense and you don’t want really bad pass defense on the field against a guy like Obrien.

by NoleOrNever on Aug 11, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crowton

Is known for doing extremely well in his first year then basically falling off of a cliff.

by NoleOrNever on Aug 11, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I've heard, but I still don't see it for Maryland this year.

That defense will likely take a step back, and they lost the vast majority of their receiving yard targets from last year (I think the most, or second most, in the ACC according to a chart published here a few months ago).

I’m not saying that I think they’ll be terrible, but I’d be surprised if they end up having a similar season as last year.

by SeminoleSkins87 on Aug 11, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

It’s hard to wrap your mind around The Terps actually being really good, I get it. I just think they will for some reason. Im sold

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crowton needs a head coach that can recruit his type players

Lester does know which type players Crowton needed!

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.....Thomas Jefferson

"My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference." - President Harry S. Truman

by DocHoliday2 on Aug 11, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maryland to be great?

They could definitely beat Miami but they won’t be great. And do you mean Miami to fall in the game or fall permanently in the college football world? The latter just isn’t going to happen any time soon.

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Miami

will fall to MD in MD and think that they will rally or fall. Im leaning towards falling and commiting an early bail out on Golden and the dream. It is very easy to give up on the hype when you loose your first game.

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

So are you saying it's a permanent fall or just that Golden won't be the success Miami fans hope he'll be?

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It could easily

become a permanent fall. If Golden can loose in MD and come back and beat Ohio State or even Kansas, than he is doing a great job. Under the circumstances of all of the hype that may be haulted at the loss to MD id AG can rally the troops to win against OS or K, than yes, great job

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 12, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are they gonna do?

Jump out of a box and yell “BOO”?

by Nole Resurrected on Aug 11, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So your're sleeping

on MD?

I'm only 31

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sleeping on them,

just not cracked out awake on them either.

by Nole Resurrected on Aug 11, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

UM and Clemson running a 3-4?

This year might just be ok afterall.

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't have the numbers in front of me

but, IIRC, BC ran 3-4 a fair amount against us last year…and we didn’t exactly tear it up.

Better known as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 11, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one talk about BC

NO ONE. I seriously just had a nightmare about it, Krug was out and I was on the sideline trying to coach some walk-on center and he was getting destroyed and we were losing 30-0. NIGHTMARE.

FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.

by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dreaming about Krug

Again?

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115

by caine115 on Aug 11, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah,

there was a serious lack of Krug, and everything had gone to hell.

FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.

by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That could be a future catch phrase

What happened at the game today? Man their just was a serious lack of Krug. It was not a pretty site. or. What a great day. Major Krugness out there!

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115

by caine115 on Aug 11, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure it wasn’t your coaching?

And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you (Jimbo) fishers of (Grown-ass) men.

Amen.

-O-Town Nole

by RollNole5 on Aug 11, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha.

Absolutely.

FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.

by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know your comment is about a dream, but

are people overestimating Krug? We haven’t seen him play in a game yet and there was a report out a few days ago that Timmy put him on his back.

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 11, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Timmy's a man-child

I’m sure he’s put plenty of, um, people, on their backs.

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by freshcollegeboy on Aug 11, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Was thinking the same thing

From one of the articles I read, Timmy is playing very well. But TLHWG does have a point. Let’s hope competition is making both sides better

by newdynastynole on Aug 11, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hope I'm not.

That would suck, I think I look at it like, “He has to be an upgrade from last year.”

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by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They did

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha.

Better known as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 11, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was called their record

I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.

Go Noles
Go Bucs

by Old Buc on Aug 11, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

One-armed QB.

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by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wooden nickel.

Better known as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 11, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never heard that phrase before.

Must be a “military thing”.

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by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am really excited to see this team in action

The size of our team is awesome. Even the freshmen are physically imposing. O’Leary, JWJ, Freeman, Benjamin (my god!), Matias, Jackson, etc etc are all GAM. Not to mention our vets…Joyner is a freak. EJ is huge. CJ7 is a freak. Pryor looks like he put on good weight and he already was decleating people. I think this team is going to impress. We are a physcially imposing squad. That “You don’t want to play Florida State.” mentality is coming back this season.

by moneyNOLE24 on Aug 11, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Its soon to be referred to as FSU size.

Not a SEC size team.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah and it's not even just the mass

It’s all functional size. These players are finely tuned athletes and you can see it. Even the guys without amazing size (G. Reid, T. Smith, M. Harris) are extremely physical and can HIT.

by moneyNOLE24 on Aug 11, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow I can hear the crowd.

When they talked college football. It was FSU has the fastest players in the nation.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the difference between a freak and a GAM?

Is one a prerequisite of the other? Mutually exclusive?

by The K-Man on Aug 11, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I hear "freak," I think

I think a freak is someone that moves incredibly well and easily for being such a GAM.

GAM’s are easy to find, they are all over. GAM that can MOVE, like Jerni, like Clowney, like Benny, those guys are freaks. The original freak, Kearse, was amazing because he entered school as a safety and became a DE by the time he left, as an example.

by Sobering on Aug 11, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many freaks do we have?

I suppose it depends on how exclusively you want to define freak. CJ7, JWJ, Los, LJ, Jernigan could all be considered.

by moneyNOLE24 on Aug 11, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freak, Manimal, Beast, Stud, Monster

I use them more or less interchangeably. GAM means a big dude. Or someone who is otherwise imposing, even if not that big.

by Nole2005 on Aug 11, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate how those are overused.

Not talking about you specifically. Just in general.

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by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freak = D.Russo GAM = A college player with an NFL player's body

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by DRusso97 on Aug 13, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I watched the replay of the USCe bowl game a couple days ago.

I’m pretty sure they feel the “you don’t want to play Florida State” mentality… There was some serious hitting in that game. Everyone thinks about G5 vs lattimore, but we were crackin heads all game

by DoubleNickel on Aug 11, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

SCAR is getting a lot of hype this year and are almost universally picked to win the SEC East. They have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. Nationally, they’re the only team in the country that has the following:

  • a QB who passed for for 3000+ yards in ’10,
  • a RB who ran for 1000+ yards in ’10 and
  • a WR with 1500+ receiving yards.

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 11, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like a 3 man team....

I kid I kid..

"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"

- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)

by YouNoleIt on Aug 11, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

also you forgot to add..

A QB whom scoffs at AA meetings.

"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"

- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)

by YouNoleIt on Aug 11, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No really, they have at least 1 great player at almost every position

e.g, 1 great CB, 2 DEs, etc.

p.s. I was expecting a Garcia joke… anyone?

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 11, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is simple...

Hey, are you Stephen Garcia? Yes, i am. Can i buy you a drink. Yes, you can.

by Fsu3211 on Aug 11, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

Telvin is funny….good stuff….you can tell both he and Joyner just love to be out there playing.

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by Kelvin Hunt on Aug 11, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Well I guarentee you the score

Of the OU game will be 0-0 before it starts

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by caine115 on Aug 11, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

As stated yearly in the FSU Basketball media guide...

FSU was undefeated when outscoring opponents. This will continue.

I didnt get a harrumph out of that guy!

by Dcubbienole on Aug 11, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

less than 50% lose ... with the bye weeks.

BTW, I recognize who that quote comes from …

by txnole on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is parity

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by DocHoliday2 on Aug 11, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, but always remember

the team that scores the most points wins.

by Noleforever9399 on Aug 11, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or the team that allows the fewest points…

by FSU on Aug 11, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Telvin said something along the lines of...

basically, I will be ready to play where and when the coaches want me…I love to hear 4 and 5 star kids saying that and meaning. These guys have really bought in to the program. Seems like thats something Jimbo harps on. Trust us and buy into the program and we will get you where you need to be.

by NicktheNole on Aug 11, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I plan on doing a full photo/comments piece on practice again this year.

will be fun to go back and do a comparison to last years open practice.

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by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Practice?

You talking bout practice?!?

by BostonNole on Aug 11, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of the great lines in sports

along with…

“Playoffs? You talking about Playoffs? "

&

“They are who we thought they were… "

by Noles 2012 on Aug 11, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I yelled "they are who we thought they were" at a bar last night

every male laughed
every female turned in circles – trying to figure out what the hell was going on

by BostonNole on Aug 11, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also remember,

Leaving the field after the 2nd quarter at Clemson,

Interviewer: How will your team respond after the ejection of (I can’t remember who, but he was a star on the defensive side).

Bobby Bowden: What? He’s not out there?

by Nole Resurrected on Aug 11, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Along with

Son this the NFL wich stands for “not for long” when you make f*cked up calls like that.

'see da broad ta get tha booty yackum, layem down smackum yackum...ho got ta be.... shiiiiiit!' 'early to bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise'

by jskipnole on Aug 11, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget

“Coach, what do you think of your team’s execution?”

“I’m in favor of it”

I think that was Sam Wyche?

by MarchantWarchant on Aug 11, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He stole it from McKay

by FSU on Aug 11, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The turds and canes beg to differ.

by Nolesos Locos on Aug 11, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would bet Jimbo is very selective with who gets to do interviews

but I agree

"I get tired of these recruiting services trying to say who is the best prospect in the country and who i should be recruiting. I really can't stand that NFL guy, what's his name? Mel, yeah Mel Kiper Jr. He knows about as much about football as a Japanese space pilot."

by NorthernHaze on Aug 11, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im going with a 59 percent chance that we beat Oklahoma. Recent findings have shown that...

OUR DEFENSE IS NASTY…. And theirs took a big hit on defense. To one of, if not their top player on defense.

Plus we were at least going to score 35 on offense. Add that to a defensive/special teams TD.

FSU is organizing a mobbing on the football field at Doak. Quote that.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

<3

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

a bit too literal. just a thought.

Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.

by fmnole on Aug 11, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well quit making such complex jokes involving “themes.” They are confusing.

And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you (Jimbo) fishers of (Grown-ass) men.

Amen.

-O-Town Nole

by RollNole5 on Aug 11, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

From your lips to Gods ears.

Well you were typing, so your fingertips to Gods ears. Unless you were using a smart phone, then it would be thumbs…

Oh well, either way I hope we are as successful as you predict.

by SDnole on Aug 11, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we beat Oklahoma, I say we rush the field, tear down the goalpost and trash the turf and sidelines.

Go all Cockney and Londoner on Doak. Who’s with me?

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 11, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I cant stand when people do that.

We HAVE been there before. Why in the hell do people trash their stations.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because train stations suck.

And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you (Jimbo) fishers of (Grown-ass) men.

Amen.

-O-Town Nole

by RollNole5 on Aug 11, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we beat Oklahoma, I say we

continue drinking at the game day rate until the following Saturday. This will include keeping office refrigerators fully stocked throughout the week…“It’s okay, Boss, we beat Oklahoma. Have a cold one on me.”

Better known as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 11, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

well done

i miss chappelle show

"You're always going to have those butterflies. If you don't then you're not a competitor and you're not a player. When you lose that feeling in your stomach that's when you need to not do it anymore. That's what makes it special and exciting."- Jimbo Fisher

by MrEzell on Aug 11, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

touche

>>>─────;;─►

by NorFla_Nole on Aug 12, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

My Boss would raid my fridge and drink all of it :/

Your managers seem alot more nice.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way, eh. Hoser.

It is better to fail honorably than to succeed by deceit.

by PeachTreeNole on Aug 11, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha alright then the points been made

Plans have been set. I’m going to prepare then.

The Funk Phenomenon.

by willdabeast on Aug 11, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got to rec that

'see da broad ta get tha booty yackum, layem down smackum yackum...ho got ta be.... shiiiiiit!' 'early to bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise'

by jskipnole on Aug 11, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome. REC.

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Aug 11, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think anyone would argue with you.

And they lost one of their best coached players.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

IMO the biggest loss with Lewis is leadership

My original point about being well-coached is that OU’s success is because they can just plug-in other players with little or no drop-off.

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 11, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Experience matters.

I think the drop off at LB is going to be alot bigger than a little bit. He was the leading tackler for two or three of the past three years (cant remember but I think three).

The backup is a 4 star LB who hasnt ever played in a game. He is about to get the same shock we got last year.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Corey Nelson

He played in 14 games last year and had 21 tackles. So he has experience.

Why is it every time I get 3 stars of police notoriety on GTA IV, Al Golden calls me asking for my commitment?

by Sir Lawrence J on Aug 11, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also remember last year that OU had at least 1 (maybe 2)

first year starting CBs… and there was absolutely no indication of this.

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 11, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went to the depth chart and tried to do some research on him on rivals and his stats read

career= 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not buying a frosh just plugging in... also they are notw down two line-backers a corner and a saftey.

and breaking in a first year starter at the other corner.

I don’t expect a ginormous drop, but there should be a tangible one at this point.

"Don't bite your friends" - DJ Lancerock

by truecolors on Aug 11, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Studs?

I don’t consider our current stable studly.

I do, however, consider a backfield of Wilder/Freemnan/Beveryly/Pender to be studly.

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by CornNole on Aug 11, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The disparity between their defense and our offense

is greater than the disparity between our defense and their offense.

They won’t be bigger, faster, or stronger than us. But they will win on execution, which is something our offense lacks. If we didn’t score 35 on USCe, we’re not going to on OU.

It is better to fail honorably than to succeed by deceit.

by PeachTreeNole on Aug 11, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am hoping for progression.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

We lost a lot on offense. It’s more than reasonable to think that we take a slight step backwards on that side of the ball this year.

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on Aug 11, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping we just run the ball down their throats.

Sustained drives. Body blows. Move the ball and at the same time eat clock. Don’t let Landry get in a rhythm.

by NoleLaw on Aug 11, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take the under ...

as to whether FSU scores 35 – only way we make a run at that is if the defense gives us 2 TDs (or at least 2 red zone possessions).

by txnole on Aug 11, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

If FSU beats OU.....FSU fans should immediately trash Clemson's entire campus.

#ItsACelebrationBitches

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by DRusso97 on Aug 13, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ive seen Roy Jones and I wouldnt want to get tackled by him

and then I see this picture and it scares me.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hes got eligibility

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by caine115 on Aug 11, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

problem is Jones would punch you back in the kidney

and you wouldn’t be able to pee right for a week.

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by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but the chance that CJones gets mad at me for not doing what he said. And subsequently murders me... is alot worse than

peeing some blood and a black eye.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

He’d dance around you for the next 36 minutes.

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by CornNole on Aug 11, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

trying to find his house in pcola and got completely lost

you know, from the concussions.

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by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's actually a bit north of Pensacola...

Very hard to find…mostly because of the trees, and the ninjas

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by CornNole on Aug 11, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha,

I met some of his family one time. Really nice people.

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by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he's got a gimongous place north of town.

Supposedly crawling with wild turkeys that he chases to keep in shape.

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.

by CornNole on Aug 11, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he can finally fulfill his dream of

hanging with the heavyweights.

Better known as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 11, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

Roy Jones Jr at FSU the same day Tavoris Cloud was at FAMU. That’s a lot of boxing experience in the same vicinity at the same time!

by TriNole83 on Aug 11, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by freshcollegeboy on Aug 11, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who is more of a monster in the wight room?

Bradham, Luc, Jones, Carradine?

GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!

by NOLEFAN1 on Aug 11, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

If Luc gets any bigger he isnt going to be able to move his arms.

He has my vote.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Tic.

It is better to fail honorably than to succeed by deceit.

by PeachTreeNole on Aug 11, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way, his arms are wider than my waist.

Reminds me almost of a pitbull with the big shoulders and arms.

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec

"alot of people dont realize that FSU is about to TAKE OFF" - Telvin Smith

by numberonenole on Aug 11, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're all freaks.....

Keep in mind, though, Bradham was repping the HELL out of Everette Browns one rep max as a true freshman and 20 lbs.lighter. The guy ISN’T HUMAN!

2011........ The ACC will begin to once again witness the power that is FSU football!

by Scalpemall on Aug 11, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Bradham and Luc are in the same class imo.

They have to do alot of flexibility stuff to keep from being so stiff. If they just worked out with doing any of that stuff they probably wouldn’t be able to lift their arms up because of all the muscle.

by Noleforever9399 on Aug 11, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

I could picture either as a pro bodybuilder with their ridiculous strength and ability to gain mass.

2011........ The ACC will begin to once again witness the power that is FSU football!

by Scalpemall on Aug 11, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year in the weight room it was Luc spotting Bradham

and Vic spotting Luc. That should give you an indication. Hint: Vic is rather large

by Cody@TN on Aug 11, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

……Clint Trickett

by Like_A_G5 on Aug 11, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

anyone know what the blue jersey means?

one of the pics had Jermaine wearing a blue jersey over his uniform

by beezyfsu on Aug 11, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

no-contact jersey,

precaution for his migraine he had.

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by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the customary jersey for people who get caught twice for diving without a license.

Still can’t believe he did that. So dumb.

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.

by CornNole on Aug 11, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick

by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at the debriefing column about uf...

They say worst case 6-6, buy they have 7 toss ups with only one leaning to win. Wouldn’t worst case be 5-7?

Gripper

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by Gripper on Aug 11, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

if the ball doesn't bounce their way

UT and Auburn could pull an upset and make UF 5-7. Personally i dont see them losing both of those games, but in worst case it definitely could happen.

by vickers8 on Aug 11, 2011 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would think 5-7 as well.

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---------------------------------------------------------
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Correct, Sir Trick.
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by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow a 254lbs True Froshmen DE in a 3-4 Front?

Sorry Miami but I hope for your sake you only use that package agains 3rd and long and definite passing downs because on a 3 man line every man should be at least 270+. Our ends in a 4-3 are way bigger than that and our LB’s are all around that size (Minus Telvin).

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by BS37FSU on Aug 11, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Matais and Krug look huge

Datko and Foose just don’t look big to me

Karlos is a beast at safety

check out picture 31 in the gallery – O’Leary is scowling again – this is becoming a pattern

by 93noleman on Aug 11, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't have a pic handy

But I remember what Datko looked like starting a couple years ago as a freshman – it’s easy to see he put on a ton of weight.

by bdahern on Aug 11, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thoughts on Clemson

Originally I thought that we’d dominate Clemson b/c their new offense. But the more I heard about it, the more it appears that it’s an offense that can be installed quickly b/c it’s not complex. Now I think we win but it will be close.

Also, Clemson is young—half their roster is RS Frosh or true Frosh and many of them will be starting. They’ll be relying on young guys to make plays on D, so I’m hoping that Jimbo shows their D some things they’ve never seen before to keep them confused. According to STS Sammy Watkins is taking reps with the 1s and will return kicks on ST (maybe along with Bellamy).

Championship!

by TLHWG on Aug 11, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree

This offense is a lot simpler than the one they’ve been running, per the guys at STS.

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on Aug 11, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

To me, Fisher sounded more down about the offense. Interview is on seminoles.com

I think him taking the blame or putting it on the coaches for the poor execution in pass O was just him trying to not harp on the things that went wrong, i.e., when all of the students fail is it their fault, the teacher’s fault, or a bit of both? Still just the third day and am glad we have a couple practice games before OU.

I’m going to guess that he put them in the most difficult situations possible just to measure where they are at and to show the kids that they haven’t arrived yet. You know, keep everyone hungry and humble. Our passing offense is something we all knew needed work. If they eventually look good against this defense, the team will be prepared to do great things.

by NoleLaw on Aug 11, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Fisher builds'em up, then breaks'em down

just a ’break’em down’ day, I’m guessing.

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by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also tried to see how far we were from my understanding and overshot (It was my fault references)

by FSU on Aug 11, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joyner

He seems much more mature than last year. Totally different person, which should be expected.

by KnoleR3 on Aug 11, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

This is what I was talking about being a potential problem for Bobby Hart

http://www.seminoles.com/view.gal?id=99285 , pic 12

He’s high-waisted. Has to mechanically do more work because he has farther to bend down. Notice here’s halfway-ing it. Fixable problem.

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by ricobert1 on Aug 11, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe he's already started to stand up?

hopefully…

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by onebarrelrum on Aug 11, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I tried to reply to this earlier and lost my connection

a photograph is a slice of time. You have no idea what he looked like 1 second before or after this individual photo.

However, point taken…

by WaimeaNole on Aug 12, 2011 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I"m just happy that the kids are happy to be FSU players again

I couldn’t stand seeing the players during the lost years that almost seemed to regret coming to such a dysfunctional program.

"Kill a fly with an axe"

by SteadfastNole on Aug 11, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

3-4 gonna be a problem for us against OU and UM?

Typically we run at 3-4’s but things might be different with larger teams… still it’s not like they are the Bama or something, size-wise.

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by truecolors on Aug 11, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

OU is hardly a larger team.

even in a 4-3 they are quite small

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by SteadfastNole on Aug 11, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

OU's front 7 on D ave. 17lbs smaller per man than our front 7 on D and our OL ave. 8 lbs. larger than OU's

I say we try to open some holes for Freeman. That our broke some long runs yesterday, Fisher was most likely referring to Davonta since CT was out, JT was blueshirt, and Ty and JWJ are more like wrecking balls. Freeman is very fast to the hole and cuts quick. Breaking long ones is what he does. I say we go ball control and out muscle OU until they show they can stop us.

by NoleLaw on Aug 11, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

miami isn't that big

their LB’s are pretty small if my memory serves me correctly.

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by ItaliaNole on Aug 11, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do we annihiliate 3-man fronts?

Because it allows 1 additional agile OL to get to the 2nd level of blocking. Can’t wait to see a non-passing down team line up with 3 DL.

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by ricobert1 on Aug 11, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

could you imagine a power option with pryor at FB against a 3-4

it would be like playing NCAA on junior varsity level

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by SteadfastNole on Aug 11, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What 3-man fronts have we faced?

Honest question, I don’t remember other than maybe BC giving a little of that look.

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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 11, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rigt forgot the Gator Bowl.

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by truecolors on Aug 11, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know about the quote.

Just couldn’t remember if it’s been proven.

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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 11, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

was that more 3 - 3-5?

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by truecolors on Aug 11, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wake and BC.... Thus my question above.

We have run straight at those teams but they were a bit smaller WAKe or a bit slower BYU. I’m a bit tenuous about a larger version of the same.

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by truecolors on Aug 11, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I won't be convinced

until I see us annihilate a good 3-4. Although I think BYU had a pretty good defense in ’09.

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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 11, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impressive to hear Telvin talk about how difficult it is to cover O'Learly

Also nice to hear Rashad is impressive
and to hear Clint talk about Benjamin snagging a ball out of the air that Clint intended to be a throw away.

To hear Jimbo talking about replacing guys who don’t get it done with ones who will, my guess is that he was talking about Beau, Rodney, Bert and the veteran crew.

by NoleLaw on Aug 11, 2011 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

and today

it will be, “there was good effort”," they really went at" or something to that order. has to keep the ego’s in check I assume. Top 5 ranking maybe more so this year.

by Ocalanole on Aug 11, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully.

Just too many years in the system not to be more polished at this point. Something is very wrong.

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by PeachTreeNole on Aug 11, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe. But I think it helps to have guys who are true receivers rather than athletes/QBs converted to receivers… At least my preference

by FSU on Aug 11, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he just means in general there will be position battles at every position and that no one's job is safe.

I don’t really think Reliford or Smith have any reason to be concerned about their jobs at this point. They both had pretty solid finishes to last season. Reed on the other hand was way too inconsistent for a junior.

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by tricknole on Aug 11, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I graduated with Roy Jones Jr.

That was a damn good high school class for Pensacola. Roy Jones Jr., Emmit Smith and (MLB all star) Travis Fryman.

by TerdFerguson on Aug 11, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Fryguy!

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by ricobert1 on Aug 11, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frymans are good people.

My mom and Kathy have been good friends for a while.

I wish they’d take a look at him to manage the Blue Wahoos in 2012.

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by CornNole on Aug 11, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

RECiept please

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by YouNoleIt on Aug 11, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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