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When the Game's on the Line

The separation between good players and great players often boils down to performance in the waning moments of closely contested games.  And there is probably no player, in any sport, more influential to a team's success than the quarterback.  Some guys may have all the ability in the world, but lack that extra something-perhaps the elusive "it" factor-to raise their level of play when the pressure is on.  It is also possible that the cause and effect of this theory are reversed.  Maybe a player is labeled as "great" because he consistently shined in tough situations.  Maybe the great ones were just incredibly lucky.  With names like Unitas, Marino, Elway and Montana topping the list of most NFL 4th quarter comebacks, fair or not, it is easy to make the connection.

The holes in the late-game-accolades greatness theory get a little bigger when applied to the college ranks.  The variation in competition at the professional level is much less than college.  NFL quarterbacks are also surrounded and supported by professionals, while college kids have to deal with, well, kids and the ups and downs that come with that deal.  Acknowledging the potential pitfalls with this line of comparison let's see how the 2010 FSU close 4th quarter, quarterback production compared to the top ten teams in the land.

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#1 Auburn:

Cam Newton -

  • Team record - 8-0
  • Completed 18 of 29 passes (62.1%), for 182 yards (6.28 ypa), 4 TD's
  • Ran for 201 yards on 43 carries (4.67 ypc)
  • 34.7% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#2 TCU:

Andy Dalton -

  • Team record - 2-0
  • Completed 7 of 13 passes (53.8%), for 59 yards (4.54 ypa)
  • Ran for 11 yards on 3 carries (3.67 ypc)
  • 18.8% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#3 Oregon:

Darrin Thomas -

  • Team record - 1-1
  • Completed 12 of 21 passes (57.1%), for 145 yards (6.90 ypa), 1 TD
  • Ran for 16 yards on 5 carries (3.20 ypc)
  • 34.6% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#4 Stanford:

Andrew Luck -

  • Team record - 2-0
  • Completed 13 of 14 passes (92.9%) for 87 yards (6.21 ypa), 2 TD's, 1 INT
  • Ran for 14 yards on 2 carries (7.0 ypc)
  • 62.5% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#5 Ohio State:

Terrelle Pryor -

  • Team record - 2-1
  • Completed 9 of 18 passes (50.0%) for 91 yards (5.06 ypa), 0 TD's , 1 INT
  • Ran for 67 yards on 11 carries (6.09 ypc)
  • 27.6% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#6 Oklahoma:

Landry Jones -

  • Team record - 6-2
  • Completed 41 of 73 passes (56.2%) for 519 yards (7.11 ypa), 3 TD's , 3 INT's
  • Ran for 2 yards on 2 carries (1.0 ypc)
  • 28.0% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#7 Wisconsin:

Scott Tolzien -

  • Team record - 3-2
  • Completed 18 of 32 passes (56.3%) for 215 yards (6.72 ypa), 1 TD's and 1 INT
  • Ran for 13 yards on 4 carries (3.25 ypc)
  • 36.1% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#8 LSU:

Jordan Jefferson -

  • Team record - 5-2
  • Completed 15 of 25 passes (60.0%) for 182 yards (7.28 ypa), 1 TD
  • Ran for 55 yards on 13 carries (4.23 ypc), with 2 TD's
  • 36.8% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

Jarrett Lee -

  • Team record - 3-1
  • Competed 15 of 21 (71.4%) passes for 223 yards (10.62 ypa), 1 TD, 1 INT
  • Ran for 3 yards on 1 carry
  • 40.9% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#9 Boise State:

Kellen Moore -

  • Team record - 2-1
  • Completed 12 of 23 passes (52.2%) for 177 yards (7.70 ypa), 2 TD's
  • Ran for 1 yard on 1 carry (1.0 ypc)
  • 37.5% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#10 Alabama:

Greg McElroy -

  • Team record - 1-3
  • Completed 17 of 26 passes (65.4%) for 217 yards (8.35 ypa), 2 TD's
  • Ran for 3 yards on 2 carries (1.5 ypc)
  • 39.3% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

#17 Florida State:

Christian Ponder -

  • Team record - 2-2
  • Completed 14 of 21 passes (66.7%) for 162 yards (7.71 ypa)
  • Ran for 37 yards on 9 carries (4.11 ypc)
  • 30.0% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

EJ Manuel -

  • Team record - 2-0
  • Completed 12 of 15 passes (80.0%) for 102 yards (6.80 ypa), 1 TD
  • Ran for 63 yards on 11 carries (5.73 ypc), 1 TD
  • 46.2% of passes and runs resulted in 1st downs or scores

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Funny to see LSU have 11 games listed here

Can you clarify what games you’re looking at? I mean, I assume it would be obvious but just in case. For Christian I’m guessing BC, NCSU, UNC, and Maryland? For EJ I’m guessing Clemson and… USC?

by stevib on Aug 13, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

What is the context?

Games that are w/in 7 pts either way at the start of the 4th quarter?

by Pinto on Aug 13, 2011 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Only thing I would be curious to see added

Is % of plays the QB was actually in. As in did they run the ball 80% of the time in the 4th if slightly ahead and a pass opens up, especially when leading. Or was the QB passing 75% trying to make a comeback. So maybe what was the rushing from non QB in that time and how much was the QB actually involved as opposed to just handing it off.

And the FEI garbage time method you said used. Can you give a quick explanation for me. Not sure what it is #s

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115

by caine115 on Aug 14, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting suggestion. I'll see what I can do.

When the losing team doesn’t have enough possessions remaining to overcome the deficit (e.g. down by two scores with only one possession left), GT starts.

Better known as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 15, 2011 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

gotcha

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115

by caine115 on Aug 15, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

so then

 Are you trying to show statisticly that EM3 is as good or a better clutch QB then CP7?
Do you believe he will be better, or are you just displaying statistics as food for thought? Either way It got me thinking :) why I love this site you guys always get me looking at and thinking about the game in a way I never had before.

Unconquered 2010 GO NOLES !

by Renegade_NOL3 on Aug 14, 2011 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Just something to think about and make your own conclusions.

Personally, three QB’s on the list stand out to me…Luck, Newton and EJ.

Better known as Dr. Kenneth Noisewater.

by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 14, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I watched several of the Auburn games that Newton

brought the team back in the 4th quarter. The guy was incredible…mostly with runs. It seemed whenever the war chickens needed a first down, he’d get it with his legs.

Gripper

Tommyhawk Nation: Bobby Bowden is the all-time ACC leader in conference titles, conference wins, total wins, winning percentage, bowl appearances & wins and owns the longest conference winning streak.

by Gripper on Aug 14, 2011 9:59 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

War chickens..

I like that!

He bleeds Garnet and Gold, She bleeds Crimson and White. AND THEY BOTH HATE ORANGE! GO NOLES!! ROLL TIDE!!

by gonolesrolltide on Aug 14, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comebacks usually mean a spread out defense… Qb’s that run well breaks the defense’s back! Thankfully, Years ago sum 1 figured it out & let Charlie Ward play in “comeback” mode for the whole game!!! Best move in the Bowden era

hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard

by lawj on Aug 14, 2011 1:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Mark Richt's wife

story goes that after the comeback win against Ga Tech in 92, she asked him why they didn’t just run that offense the whole game. And thus was born the “Fast Break” offense (and one of the first ‘spread’ offenses in college football).

by RANOLE on Aug 14, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He (Richt) talked about to Eason and he & Eason brought the idea to Scott.

by FSU on Aug 14, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

good job monarch

by law74 on Aug 14, 2011 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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