Noles News 08.08.11
by Bud Elliott on Aug 8, 2011 9:00 AM EDT
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PrintFall camp starts today! Our offensive questions piece will run later this afternoon. Expect practice reports and the defensive questions piece to follow tonight and tomorrow, respectively. Don't expect much news, though, during the first few days because the guys are in helmets and shorts only.
FSU
U.Va. Football Begins Fall Practice - Streaking The Lawn
UVA has open practices. Meaning our UVA site gets to go.
Seminoles by position: A look at Florida State’s offensive line depth – Chopping Block – Seminoles Blog – Orlando Sentinel
Very nice look here.
The College Football Preseason Top 25: Part II | College Football
4. Florida State:
Now here’s a team I can get behind!
If you don’t like Florida State, the reasons why are understandable. They’ve got an inexperienced quarterback (which as I just mentioned, is something I think is overrated), and despite their ACC Atlantic Division title last year, they’re still a club that’s not totally used to winning. No one on this roster has ever played in a BCS bowl game.
A few things here.
One, for anyone who thinks E.J. Manuel is inexperienced, they clearly haven’t looked at his resume. No, he hasn’t started a ton of games. But amongst those he has, include: Last year’s ACC Championship Game. The 2010 Gator Bowl. Against Florida in the Swamp two years ago. And while he didn’t start last year’s Chick Fil-A Bowl, he did play most of the snaps. Basically, E.J. Manuel is about as experienced as an "inexperienced," quarterback can be.
Then there’s the, "They’ve never been there before," theory, which might hold water… you know, if Auburn hadn’t just proven 12 months ago that enough talent can trump experience. How many guys on the Auburn roster had won an SEC Division title, let alone an SEC title before last season? None that I know of.
Regardless, I’m fascinated with the Noles, and since I’m planning on writing about them quite a bit more in the coming days, I won’t add too much here.
What I will do, is leave you with this: In the BCS era, Bob Stoops, Jim Tressel, Urban Meyer, Les Miles and Gene Chizik have all won BCS titles in the second year at their particular school. Well, Jimbo Fisher is in his second year. That isn’t terribly significant, but interesting none the less.
And remember too that the schedule breaks nicely for the Seminoles this year. If they can by Oklahoma in Week 3 and a visit to Clemson in Week 4 (where they haven’t won in over 10 years), there doesn’t seem to be a game the rest of the year that they won’t be heavy favorites. Instead, they get to gorge on a crap-tastic platter of Boston College’s, Maryland’s and Wake Forest’s. Not to mention that their two biggest rivals, Miami and Florida are breaking in new head coaches this year.
In other words, there’s plenty to like in Tallahassee this year.
Rivals
Clemson Football - Tiger Tracks - Travis Sawchik | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment
Clemson will be playing a lot more 3-4 this year. Excellent choice by the Tigers and I'll have more on that. Read this article.
Will Vic Beasley find a home for Tigers at bandit end? " OrangeandWhite.com
Clemson's current personnel seems better suited to a 3-4 than the Tigers' familiar 4-3. Defensive line coach Dan Brooks recently talked about the interchangeability of the Tigers' big bodies up front – primarily in the context of adapting players from end to tackle positions. Rennie Moore has already made the switch, and Tavaris Barnes has been working primarily at tackle since the spring.
Hokies Football Media Day | The Key Play
Great recap of Hokies' media day.
Recruit Report: D.J. Humphries, T, Mallard Creek - Alligator Army
Gators land one of the top offensive tackles in the country. They'll need him to block FSU's ridiculous defensive line haul.
Twitter / @Jake_Trotter: Stoops: "Expect defense to ...
Bob Stoops: "Expect defense to be significantly better from a year ago. D-line, d-ends much better than they've been billed to be."
2010 ACC Football Starts Lost To Injury - BC Interruption
A look at Phil Steele's analysis of 2010 college football starts lost to injury as it relates to the 2011 ACC title run.
Clemson Football Practice Report - August 6 - CLEMSON UNIVERSITY OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE
Clemson running more of a 3-4 defense? Yep. Kevin Steele has the experience with that.
2011 Oklahoma Football Offensive Preview: The Line - Crimson And Cream Machine
Looks to be a very good group.
Tigers in training: 3 things to watch as Clemson opens football camp | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment
Clemson's personnel definitely fits a move to a 3-4 defense. Good position battles here.
K'Hadree Hooker Commits To NC State - Backing The Pack
Nice pickup for the Wolfpack
U.Va. Football Begins Fall Practice - Streaking The Lawn
UVA has open practices. Meaning our UVA site gets to go.
Preseason Coaches Poll Reactions: ACC - CBSSports.com
#5 Florida State - Seeing the Seminoles in the top 5 seems appropriate. They had a strong finish to the 2010 season, falling 44-33 to Virginia Tech in the ACC Championship Game then defeating South Carolina in the Chick Fil-A Bowl, and return 16 offensive and defensive starters. One of the new starters, junior quarterback EJ Manuel, was already selected to the preseason All-ACC team. Head coach Jimbo Fisher has embraced the expectations, and feels certain that his team is prepared to stay focus regardless of hype. Manuel himself claims that he doesn't even read articles and blogs about the team.But as far as national dominance goes, the Seminoles' campaign hits a fork in the road on Sept. 17 when the top-ranked Oklahoma Sooners visit Tallahassee for a spotlight showdown that will likely make or break either team's national title hopes. A loss puts them in the position of battling for an Orange Bowl berth, a win makes a trip to New Orleans seem like a legitimate possibility for Florida State fans.
Other CFB
2011 Football Preview: The Idaho Vandals And America's Underdog - Football Study Hall
A look at the 2011 Idaho Vandals football team. Idaho is aggressive and active, but can they bounce back after falling to 6-7 last year?
Below is a small handful of projection and change factors most pertinent to the Football Outsiders' preseason projections you will find in the Football Outsiders Almanac 2011.
Four-Year F/+ Rk 117 Five-Year Recruiting Rk 111 TO Margin/Adj. TO Margin**** +2 / -0.5 Approx. Ret. Starters (Off. / Def.) 13 (5, 8) Yds/Pt Margin***** -0.3 This is an enjoyable team. They wing the ball around on offense, they attack (for better or worse) on defense, and their coach is fantastically fun to listen to in interviews. But are they capable of actually playing good football? How good? Our Football Outsiders Almanac 2011 projections are not optimistic about Idaho's prospects this year, giving them just a 13% chance of reaching bowl eligibility. But let's look beyond this season for a moment.
Though I can't speak to the cultural differences of different portions of the great state of Idaho (granted, Moscow is as much a part of Montana, Oregon and Washington as the rest of Idaho), I can tell you about the differences in quality between the Idaho and Boise State football programs. The Vandals cannot compete with their neighbors to the south, but that's just as well because they're no longer conference mates with the Blue-Blood Broncos. In fact, Idaho faces an opportunity of sorts over the next few years. Boise State has left the WAC, and Hawaii, Fresno State and Nevada are soon to follow. That leaves Idaho, San Jose State, Louisiana Tech (seriously, can La. Tech and UTEP just flip conferences so I stop getting confused?), New Mexico State, Utah State (for now), and soon-to-be newcomers like UT-San Antonio and Texas State. Somebody could establish themselves as the class of the new (and incredibly weak) conference. Could America's Underdog fill the void?
So here’s how I think the Pac-12 South will play out, from last to first: Colorado, U.C.L.A., Arizona, Arizona State, U.S.C. and Utah. If I could go back to July and know that Arizona would have Juron Criner, I’d probably push the Wildcats up to third and knock the Sun Devils down a peg. Most importantly, however, I don’t have Utah ahead of the Trojans because of the latter program’s N.C.A.A. penalties; I have the Utes atop the South on their own stature, thanks to the nice qualities this team carries on both sides of the ball. There’s the potential for a very nice offense should Wynn be – and remain – healthy; this means the Utes need to find a lead running back, but I don’t think the running game is going to struggle in the least, mainly because of the solid offensive line. The defense has holes to fill in the secondary, but there’s rising talent at cornerback and two talented starting safeties, albeit a pair without optimal college experience. So I think the Utes have a Virginia Tech-like debut in the Pac-12, hitting the ground running in their first season – against the odds and ahead of expectations, it’s safe to say. But this isn’t a great team, not one that lines up with a few of the program’s recent powers. The offense will have some growing pains, and the defense has a few issues to address before we get fully on board. Utah has the good fortune of playing in a wide-open South division, which will help. I think we’ll see the Utes float around a national ranking all season, and should win eight or nine games in the regular season.
Top Ten Teams: Who Is Likeliest to End Unranked? - Team Speed Kills
Last year, I ranked the top 10 teams of the preseason Coaches' Poll in order of who I thought was likeliest to end the season unranked. It went pretty well, all things considered.
The reason it works is because since 2002, roughly two preseason top 10 teams per year have ended the season unranked. The coaches have only avoided having top 10 teams fall out of the polls twice (2004 and 2007). All preseason polls are shaky, but the Coaches' Poll is the worst of them all. Coaches rank on reputation more than any other pollsters, and reputation factors in more in preseason polls than any of the rest of them.
Keep in mind that this list here doesn't necessarily predict that any team will finish the season unranked. It's merely the order of who I think is most to least likely to end the year outside the Coaches' Poll. When I list "potential losses" for each, it means that's the number of tossups (or worse) on the schedule in a worst case scenario. The magic number to hit is five, as about the only way to finish in the top 25 with five losses is to lose to the national champion twice like South Carolina did last year.
This is also not a ranking of overall quality of the teams. It's more about who has the lowest floor.
Debriefing: The old aura is long gone, but USC fights on - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Debriefing: Stanford hits us with its best shot - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Totally disagree with an 11-1 record for Stanford. Lost an enormous amount on a very good defense.
Friday, It's So Fetch! Vol. 13
Here's a quick look at the preseason USA Today Coaches Poll Top 25 with some huh and what analysis.
Here we go. No more Rodriguez, Greg Robinson and company; Hoke, Borges, Mattison and company provide a spark, a new set of standards and a breath of fresh air for the Michigan program. It’s fine to be excited. There are issues to address on both sides of the ball, but we are going to see a vastly improved on-field product from the Wolverines in 2011. Offensively: the transition from pro-style to spread is far more difficult than the move back. Most of the attention has been paid to Robinson’s transition, but whether he’ll produce shouldn’t even be a question. If U.M. can find an answer at running back the offense should remain productive enough to lead the Wolverines back to bowl play on its own, as it did a year ago. Defensively: the slight personnel changes should yield immediate dividends. The reworked defensive line will be better against the run and in getting to the quarterback, which will have a domino-like effect for the defense at large. Will Michigan make a drastic leap in the national defensive rankings? The Wolverines won’t turn in a top 25 effort, but I think the defense will move from abysmal to the middle of the pack. For now, the secondary will continue be the defense’s Achilles heel. What about the schedule? U.M. gets eight games at home, including Notre Dame, Nebraska and Ohio State. You really couldn’t ask for anything better than that in Hoke’s first season. So, the bottom line: eight wins, if not nine, a far better product, impassioned play, hope for the future.
2011 Season Preview: Dreams, Lullabies And The Auburn Tigers - SBNation.com
A look at the 2011 Auburn Tigers football team. Auburn rode a transcendent quarterback and a batch of since-departed difference makers to a national title in 2010. What happens when Gene Chizik, Guz Malzahn and company are forced to start over?
Summary and Projection Factors
Below is a small handful of projection and change factors most pertinent to the Football Outsiders' preseason projections you will find in the Football Outsiders Almanac 2011.
Four-Year F/+ Rk 14 Five-Year Recruiting Rk 11 TO Margin/Adj. TO Margin**** +5 / +5.5 Approx. Ret. Starters (Off. / Def.) 7 (3, 4) Yds/Pt Margin***** -3.2 Considering the close wins, Auburn was not tremendously lucky in 2010, at least not according to fumbles and Yards Per Point. The luck came in the perfect confluence of blue-chippers (Newton) and players peaking at the perfect time (Fairley, for example). The problem, of course, is that such a vast majority of difference-makers is gone from a team that won so many close games that, if Auburn is a touchdown worse in 2011 (certainly a possibility), they could fall from 14-0 to about 5-7 in a heartbeat.
Of course, the numbers don't see it that way. Of course they don't. What Auburn did in 2010 -- casting aside recent history with sudden success, etc. -- made no sense to the numbers, and this fall they're dealing with an entirely new set of "knowns": championship-caliber teams don't fall off the face of the planet (then again, Texas probably tamped that sentiment down a bit), returning starter numbers don't matter as much as we might think, etc. In what is immediately the shakiest-looking projection in the Football Outsiders Almanac 2011, AU is projected to fall, but only to fourth in the country and 9-3 overall.
Make no mistake: there is still a significant amount of talent on this team, certainly enough to play at the level of a Top 15 team. Dyer and McCalebb are great, the offensive line is laden with blue-chippers, and a still-athletic defense is going to be pretty damn experienced by midseason. And they still have Gus Malzahn calling plays. Things could be worse. But the margin for error is so slim in the SEC, particularly in today's SEC West, that any slippage could take you pretty far down the slope. Phil Steele made waves when he picked AU to finish last in the West. With looming road trips to South Carolina, Arkansas, LSU and Georgia (plus Alabama, Mississippi State and Florida at home), not to mention the fact that you could be a Top 25-caliber team and still finish fifth in the West, would that much of a tumble really surprise anybody?
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Ty and Dan talk with Mark Ennis from BigEastCoastBias.com about expectations at West Virginia, the Tino Sunseri Experiment in Pitt’s new offense, USF’s progression as a major football program, UConn’s mantra for 2011, and prop bets for his own wedding.
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And the hype machine is only starting to get cranked up
Anyone who is leery of enormous amounts of media hype might as well just turn off their TV right now, because they’re gonna start piling it on thicker and heavier in the days to come.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
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Trick daddy's gotta be salivating over Clemson switching to a 3-4
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Aug 8, 2011 9:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I love his quote for the 3-4:
“What do we do with that defense? We destroy that defense.” (paraphrased)
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Is it just me, or does traveling 1,000+ miles for a Thursday night game seem a little bit tougher
Instead, they get to gorge on a crap-tastic platter of Boston College’s
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Clemson's switch to (more of) the 3-4 sounds risky
- primarily done in order to compensate for expecting a significant drop-off in pressure from the front 4 from ’10
- depends on major contributions from true freshmen LB
- NT is only 300 pounds (who has “struggled with consistency”, which probably won’t require a double team from us.
Championship!
I'll take their 3-4
against our OL allday!. We have plenty of blocking backs that can stand up anyone they want to send. It sounds like Clemson is building their D around individuals rather than a scheme. Not having a very experienced NT on a 3-4 to take a double team just means you’re going to rush the edge and hope for the best. Not to mention the offense is also, “Transitioning” into a wanna be Oregon/Auburn so to change the D at the same time seems odd. But ok? They might want to put more though into this.
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It's like we forget how good Clemson's defense is.
Their line will be fine. They will be ready for the option this time. We’re going to have to be able to complete passes to move the ball on them.
I think we will win simply because I don’t think they’ll score much on our defense. If we avoid turnovers we should pull it out.
Clemson lost
DeAndre McDaniel, Da’Quan Bowers, Jarvis Jenkins, Byron Maxwell, and Marcus Gilchrist. That is a lot. Insert Jonathan Meeks, Rennie Moore, Malliciah Goodman and add a change in D-scheme. Maybe next year.
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We already run the same fronts
and BT already plays a shade Nose, there is hardly any difference here.
Clemson is not switching to a 2-gap 3-4 that you are describing.
by DrB on Aug 8, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It's just going to be more 3-4 looks, but still a 4-3 base
Steele loves being multiple and STS has consistently stated that when he got the linebackers needed that he would show more looks.
Brandon Thompson has been inconsistent (relatively speaking), but is still a very good player. FSU will definitely double team him.
Even with Jacob F
in the middle? Really? Idk about that.
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Jake has yet to play a down at this level
All ankle jokes aside, I wouldn’t assume he’s going to dominate just yet.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 8, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
But
I dont see why he should need help. Thompson doesn’t seem like that kind of NT.
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How much have you watched Thompson play?
He played very well against you guys last year. He also blew up Auburn’s offensive line. He is very talented and is tough to handle 1 on 1. You are already assuming a guy that has never played college ball will stonewall him?
Well to be fair...
FSU has had success in recent time, (Please refer to the 90’s) and remembers what winning feels like. Clemson hasn’t. (Please refer to the 80’s).
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Let's forget fair and concentrate on being sensible.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 8, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Fahrenkrug, I believe was the top rated JUCO OL, and goes about 310 lbs.
Trickett has been very impressed with him, which is saying something because Trickett is not easy to please, had someone else in mind to start at center, but left ‘Krug there because he was just so damn good, and you have to keep in mind that these times when he is so damn good, he is going against the FSU D-line which is now rated as the top line in the country, preseason of course. It’s not like we’re saying we could just take 270 lb. freshman out of HS and manhandle the Tigers’ line. To block him 1 on 1 for the 1 or 2 seconds it takes a ball carrier to get by him is a different thing.
Consider the source.
And I thought that Clemson fans got overly excited about offseason hype…
Trickett is not into “hype.” I agree that this double-team issue won’t be decided by what anyone says, but when an accomplished and respected coach who rarely gushes, gushes, it;s okay to trust in that a little bit. The only other player at FSU I can remember Trickett praising to high heck was Hudson; and he was good. real good.
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No no no
I am assuming that although Thompson is a good player he might not be good enough to require a double team.
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You don't get a top 10 defense
with a NT getting regularly handled by a single blocker.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 8, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
So you are
saying Thompson was regularly double teamed last year?
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Don't know that for fact
He’s a good player on a great defense (last year). It’s an educated guess. Point is, he’s good and Krug’s unproven. Let’s move on.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 8, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Da'Quan Bowers?
Ya i’d say doubleteam is a def. Thomspon..No. So to refer to my OP, “Not having a very experienced NT on a 3-4 to take a double team just means you’re going to rush the edge and hope for the best” . Thompson=no doubleteam on 3-4 which =FAIL
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Okay, let's continue this silly discussion
Which side did Bowers play? Does Clemson primarily play under or over? If Bowers always took a double (and always 2 OL, not tackle + TE/RB)…which DL would that benefit? The guy next to him, or the guy two doors down?
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 8, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Silly?
Is it lonely up there on your pedestal? I was using Bowers as an example of a guy you would double team. Just an example. And for the record, Clemson played under last year and Steele liked the robber to fall back to cover the zone in 4-3. So I am wondering what he will do on a 3-4 with young, (But talented), LB’s, who may not be ready for such a scheme. If the convo is silly dont participate.
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haha. Good advice.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 8, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You already double team him
what do you think teams do with a shade nose and a 5 technique?
by DrB on Aug 8, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He will definitely be double teamed at times depending on the play call and Clemson's alignment.
He’s not some Terrance Cody type that needs a constant double but he’s pretty good.
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4-2-5 Sounds like
a better fit with hybrid LB and ends.
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Dont think you understand the 3-4
We play 4-3 Under, which is a 5-2 front. The 3-4 we will be running is a 3-4 Under/Over, which is a 5-2 front.
There is hardly a difference. Its all one-gapped.
by DrB on Aug 8, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Our OL could be really good, certainly bigger than last year.
Spurlock at 321? Yikes! Anybody have the last published/rumored weights for our staring 5?
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btw, the first 2-3 series will tell us a lot about how the OU game will end.
If we’re crushing their lines, we’re in control of the pace and the game is ours. If it’s back and forth, I can’t see us winning a shootout.
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by PeachTreeNole on Aug 8, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
IIRC our OL did good against the OU DL until
they started bringing the delayed LB blitz, which we never figured out how to counter.
Championship!
Our OL did well until
Venables figured out our WR’s couldn’t get open and he could afford to send extra pass rushers.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Aug 8, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
In other words
If our receivers have made the necessary improvement, EJ should have time to hit them.
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by AMFKNole on Aug 8, 2011 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Which is why we still have questions at wideout
Do you put in Rashad Greene to just run by everyone, Benjamin to knockout defenders who want to come anywhere close to him, Shaw to make sure the right route is run and the ball is caught when thrown, or some combination of Haggins, Dent, and Christian Greene?
Maybe Nick O’Leary to find the seams in their zones?
Lots of questions and lots of young players. The call is out. Who will answer?
In '10 we had 2 upperclassmen/experienced WRs
this year we have 3—Reed, Smith & Haulstead will demand attention from the OU secondary. To really stretch the field (and the D) and prevent OU from blitzing regularly, we probably need to see production from at least one more WR/TE.
I want to see Jimbo throw the kitchen sink at the OU D—given what happened last year, nothing else would be acceptable out of him.
Championship!
p.s. although OU has 2 stud (returning) CBs
both Safeties are 1st year starters… 1 So, 1 Jr… and neither is > 6-0. I hope to see EJ throw deep with some degree of regularity… we have lots of deep threat WRs (one of whom is 6-6) and EJ likes to throw the deep ball.
Championship!
Benjamin won't be able to get off the LOS against OU
which is why he won’t play against OU, esp. considering there are 6 experienced, capable WRs ahead of him on the depth chart. We still have fall practice to sort out the depth chart, but I don’t think anyone expects Benjamin to jump any Dent, Haggins, Shaw or Green.
Championship!
Neither were 245 lbs.
The only reason for him not to skip the sophomores is familiarity with Jimbo’s offense. This one has a high upside.
Benjamin at wideout is like having a DE playing for WR. Unless OU is going to move a DT to CB, Benjamin should not have any trouble getting off the line. Our smaller sophomores might. Consider this: Benjamin weighs about 70 lbs more than some of the guys ahead of him on the depth chart.
I dont think you will see him against OK
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I'm not sure how often OU presses at the line
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by AMFKNole on Aug 8, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well Willy improved big time as the season went on
Hopefully his injury wasn’t a huge setback. Rodney showed up for our biggest games last year, of which OU is this year so if he keeps the habit, that bodes well. We don’t need to throw freshmen out there, that’s a desperation move unless it’s a specific package like O’Leary motioning out of the backfield and just eating up some LB.
I think we’ll slow pace, run right at them and try to mess with Jones’s rhythm. I also have an inkling that if we win it’ll be because Everette Dawkins facilitated Landry in a thorough introduction with the dirt.
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by AMFKNole on Aug 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Willie much mor than Rodney.
I also think that we are going to need more than 3 options to throw to.
I hope Christian Greene and Kenny Shaw have good fall camps, and I wouldn’t mind seeing a fair dose of O’Leary in the games.
don't forget Dent & Haggins
I see Dent as the So. WR who has the most receptions & receiving yards at the end of ’11.
Championship!
Honestly, you don't really need more than three to throw to
When we go 4 wide it’ll be Haggins in there I bet. Yes, we’ll rotate receivers, but if Bert, Willie and Rodney are good, I’ll be happy because well likely have a TE/H-Back out there along with a running back. WR isn’t like DL or even RB where we need oceanic depth.
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by AMFKNole on Aug 8, 2011 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Less experience than what?
Only about three of them have any real game experience.
If the choice is between some fall camp practice and guys who have practiced for a year, I don’t see a great difference between the two. Familiarity with the playbook, timing with EJ, all account for something, but it really boils down to who is the best guy we have today and who might produce if we stick him in the game.
I'd say Bert, Smith, and Willie have significantly more experience
Than Greene, Green, Benjamin, and O’Leary. I think the lack thereof on the part of the starters against OU last year was the biggest contributor to the offensive struggles. I don’t want another instance of a green (no pun intended) wideout missing a call and costing us a huge gain early in the game. see: Haulstead
>>---l>
I would expect those three to get plenty of PT.
What happens when they need a breather or we go 4 wide? I think the big three will have trouble with OU again this year, which is why we need a fourth option to replace Taiwan. So who’s it going to be?
The counter to the delayed LB blitz is the delayed release.
A chip on the blitzer & release into the area vacated. Paging LP24, NOL, and whoever else happens to be on the field.
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have a weigh in on Fan Day. Ill bring the scale and a dozen doughnuts!
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Please please please, Clemson; run that 3-4 as your base D against us.
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What are you glorifying with your life?
With Jacob F
holdin down the boat? HELL YA! This year may be better than I thought.
I'm only 31 years old but feel like an Old Buc.
Go Noles
Go Bucs
RB just curious
If we are running the ball the 30 front it is not too intimidating, but during the South Caroilina game, Ellis Johnson drew up some excellent zone blitzes against our pass pro with some interesting fronts, and one time Ponder almost got killed (concussion). We ran the ball great against them though.
We only had 90 yards passing with a +4 TO in the bowl game, so I am a little concerned about our ability to pass the ball this year. Maybe the health of our line had something to do with this.
How do we fare with our line in pass pro vs. the 30 front with multiple looks like the 3-3-5 or the 3-4 IYO?
by LincolnHighNole on Aug 8, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't know The answer to your question
But Ponder got the concussion on the play he scrambled right before the 4th down messed up pass. He was running and went down hard, head bounced off the turf hard and you can see from that moment he looks a little lost.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
by BenDNole on Aug 8, 2011 3:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
+5 TN points for anyone
who can find individual game listings of OL grade performance per game (i.e., “Stork graded out at 77% in ACCCG vs. VT”)
What are you glorifying with your life?
TN Points
Is that like a Shrute buck?
"You make the helmet, the helmet doesn't make you." << Jimbo FN' Fisher
Twitter @RobbedbyJT
This is really sad:
The helmet of Oklahoma’s Austin Box, via Every Day Should Be Saturday
by basaltrock on Aug 8, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't mean to sound insensitive, but...
I hope they set his helmet out there where he’d be playing when they play FSU at Doak.
- lookatmeimanasshole
by NoleySmokes on Aug 8, 2011 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That will just fire them up to win one for Box. I hope FSU is fired up to win a NC for Ethan and realizes that begins by winning the OU game.
by AntiCommie on Aug 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sad as in lame?
I agree.
Leaving his locker alone is a respectful gesture. Taking his helmet out to the practice field and just setting it there is…weird and excessive.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
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lol. Love ESPN boards
was just told that FSU should lose to UF this year because its so hard to play at, they have just as much talent, but the fact they have better coaching gives them an edge.
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
But the 3rd
made me walk away
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
Anyone saying UF "should" beat us this year is a dope.
MiNDSET? SWAG-ER-ISM!!!
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Wherever you are, Trick, you are wise, indeed.
Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
Reference the OL and Spurlock in particular at LG
What do we all suppose are the chances we’ll HEAVILY rest Dave and give Stanley or Foose some solid 1st team practice time and most of the playing time vs ULM and Charlston Southern? To keep him healthy for OU.
The softer, gentler, "I am at work" version of DutchFSU.
"the schedule breaks nicely for the Seminoles this year"
That article is probably the third or fourth time I’ve seen a preview cite our manageable schedule. What am I missing here?
I think they’re referring to if you can get past the OU & Clemson in back to back weeks
by FSU on Aug 8, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
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