Oklahoma Sooners at Florida State Seminoles: Game Preview Part II
And here we are. Finally, it's time to predict the game between the Oklahoma Sooners and the Florida State Seminoles. #1 v. #5 in a sold-out Doak. Let's go over the FSU offense and the OU defense.
Make sure to see the preview of the FSU defense and the Oklahoma offense: http://www.tomahawknation.com/2011/9/16/2421583/dealing-with-oklahomas-offense
These two units have been excellent for the Noles and Sooners over the past few years, with FSU having one of the best 10 offenses the last two seasons, and OU having one of the best defenses for pretty much the entire decade. But this year, these two units may be the lesser halves of their respective teams.
| Defense | ||||
| DE | 56 Ronnell Lewis** | Jr. | 6-2 | 244 |
| 90 David King** | Jr. | 6-5 | 273 | |
| DT | 53 Casey Walker* | Jr. | 6-2 | 308 |
| 94 Torrea Peterson | R-Fr. | 6-3 | 292 | |
| DT | 97 Jamarkus McFarland** | Jr. | 6-2 | 296 |
| 92 Stacy McGee* | Jr. | 6-4 | 299 | |
| DE | 84 Frank Alexander*** | Sr. | 6-4 | 255 |
| 98 Chuka Ndulue | R-Fr. | 6-3 | 251 | |
| SLB | 1 Tony Jefferson* | So. | 5-10 | 199 |
| 5 Joseph Ibiloye** | Jr. | 6-3 | 219 | |
| MLB | 21 Tom Wort* | So. | 6-0 | 229 |
| 55 Jaydan Bird** or | Jr. | 6-2 | 236 | |
| 52 Kellen Jones | Fr. | 6-1 | 223 | |
| WLB | 7 Corey Nelson* | So. | 6-1 | 219 |
| 45 Caleb Gastelum or | R-Fr. | 6-1 | 196 | |
| 25 Aaron Franklin | R-Fr. | 6-1 | 211 | |
| BCB | 32 Jamell Fleming** | Sr. | 5-11 | 191 |
| 9 Gabe Lynn* | So. | 6-0 | 195 | |
| SS | 14 Aaron Colvin* | So. | 6-0 | 176 |
| 29 Quentin Hayes or | R-Fr. | 6-0 | 181 | |
| 42 Jesse Paulsen | Jr. | 6-0 | 193 | |
| FS | 30 Javon Harris** | Jr. | 5-11 | 207 |
| 27 Sam Proctor*** | Sr. | 6-0 | 222 | |
| FCB | 6 Demontre Hurst** | Jr. | 5-10 | 181 |
| 15 Lamar Harris** | Jr. | 6-1 | 187 | |
Florida State will take its multiple pro style offense up against Oklahoma's extremely athletic defense. Last year, as in every facet of the game, Oklahoma had the edge. This was primarily a result of terrible receiver play, about which you can read more here.
I am going to do this section of the preview a bit differently, by focusing certain position battles.
FSU's offensive tackles v. Oklahoma's defensive ends
Big battle here. FSU has two senior tackles with more than 70 combined starts. They've been along for the entire ride, starting since 2008. Andrew Datko and Zebrie Sanders are very good (and extremely under-appreciated players by the fanbase). And they'll need to play excellent games against the Sooners set of defensive ends. Lewis will be aligned on Datko, and while Lewis is very good, Datko should be able to handle him because Lewis is, for the most part, an explosive speed rusher. Datko doesn't really need to worry about any bull-rush moves from Lewis. I don't think.
Aligned on Sanders will be Frank Alexander, who has seemingly been at Oklahoma for years. Alexander is not super explosive, but is a good, multi-year starter type for Oklahoma, meaning he is pretty good. Still, I give the advantage here to Sanders, who will be one of if not the best player Alexander faces this year.
Some OU fans are high on King, and he could be excellent against the run. I'm not sure how much he will play.This is one of the position battles FSU must win to win the game.
FSU's interior trio vs. Oklahoma's DTs and MLB
Unlike the tackles, this group for FSU is far from settles. Right guard David Spurlock missed much of last year and all of spring with concussions. He's not had the same intensity he showed before the injury, but that could have something to do with the quality of opponent. Center Bryan Stork has played a bunch of center in practice, but only one half of center in a game. How will his snaps be? Left guard Jacob Fahrenkrug is a powerful player who made the swap to guard when Stork moved to center. This group has potential to end up pretty solid, but at this point it has to be a concern.
They'll be facing three good defensive tackles in Casey Walker, Jamarkus McFarland and Stacy McGee. There's no Gerald McCoy in this group, though McFarland will flash that ability at times. FSU has to hope McFarland doesn't bring his best performance. At middle linebacker is Tom Wort, who ascended to the spot after the tragic death of Austin Box. Wort runs hot and cold, and when he's good he can make a lot of plays. But he can overrun plays and be inconsistent. FSU's goal will be to block Wort. To do that, they'll need to quickly control the opposing tackle and have one blocker peel off and make the play. Easier said than done. I don't think FSU needs to win this battle to win the game, but it can't get dominated here.
Oklahoma's secondary v. FSU's receivers
We covered this in the link above as FSU won't have its #2 receiver in Willie Haulstead, and will try to go with a gimpy Bert Reed. Oklahoma has very good corners, one good safety (Colvin) and one unproven safety. FSU needs Rodney Smith to have a huge game. Jump balls aren't high percentage plays, but FSU is going to have to try. It will also need someone else to step up as the #2 receiving option. This is particularly true and will likely need to be a young guy if Bert Reed isn't 100%. FSU's receivers have not been very consistent as of late, and good routes against Oklahoma are so key because the windows are so small. Like the battle above, a big win here isn't necessary, but FSU probably needs to play this to a draw.
With the major questions at receiver, do not be surprised to see FSU run more double tights. Beau Reliford will be very important in this game as a blocker, and don't be surprised if Nick O'Leary gets a lot of time as well.
Finally, E.J. Manuel. FSU could do a lot worse than a battle-tested 6'5" 245 kid with excellent wheels, a big arm, questionable accuracy and not great defensive reading skills.
Manuel is going to have to have a big, big game if FSU has a chance to win this ballgame. I anticipate a lot of it will come via his legs. It's his greatest strength and there is no reason not to run the heck out of him, as FSU has two cupcakes and a bye in the next four weeks after this game. He is so natural at the option, and you should expect a lot of that as well. Manuel's legs should open up things for the running game by the backs as well, because a defender must respect him on the fake. Staying in favorable down and distance will be very key here because that allows FSU to keep the threat of a Manuel scramble alive, and because FSU isn't exactly set up to win third-and-long with a qb who doesn't possess great accuracy and understanding of the defense.
As for the running backs, they aren't anything special at this point. The most important thing will be ball security and blitz pickup. The latter will be especially emphasized because OU will throw a lot of different zone pressure looks at Manuel.
Expect FSU to use a plodding pace. If done effectively, this should frustrate Oklahoma's offense by keeping them on the sideline and out of rhythm.
FSU has an advantage on paper in special teams. That advantage needs to play out on the field if FSU is to be in this game.
Final Word
While much of this sequel will different, I've seen parts of this movie before, specifically FSU coming into the game depending on green receivers. But anything is possible in a single-game setting. These are two very good teams. One excellent team is going to take a loss tomorrow night. That is the reality of playing marquee non-conference games. This is a true tossup in every sense of the word. I can't tell you who will win. But I can tell you that there ain't many football teams better than these two.
I will say that for FSU to win this game, the crowd cannot suck. The alumni section cannot be as pitiful and quiet as it typically is. FSU fans say they want to re-join the elite? Coming to the game is not enough. Standing up and making noise on every single defensive play like fans of an elite SEC team would. I guarantee you a lot of the passivity in DCS would not stand in that league, or at Ohio State or Penn State. Doak can be loud, but not if 30,000 FSU fans on the shade side are sitting down and waiting for third down to get really loud. You don't want FSU to play scared, don't be scared to cheer. And do not get discouraged if OU gets up early. The team absolutely feels when the life gets sucked out of the crowd. If FSU has to come back in this game, it will need the crowd's help. And if the guy behind you tells you to sit down because he can't stand, tell him you can't sit for some medical reason (hemorrhoids or restless leg syndrome might do the trick).
If you're trying to pull an upset, you could do much worse than an excellent defense, a big, experienced mobile QB and excellent special teams. I won't be surprised if OU wins and I won't be surprised if FSU wins. I'd love to know exactly how healthy Bert Reed and Daryl Williams will be tomorrow, but I don't have that luxury and it's go time. As for an official prediction, I do lean slightly to Oklahoma by the slightest of margins. And I really think we'll see less than 60 combined points, which is lower than many are predicting.
I'll leave you with some words from Paul Myerberg:
The Sooners haven't gone anywhere since Jan. 3, 2001. And they're not going anywhere anytime soon; the players have come and gone, especially at quarterback, but Stoops has built a machine in Norman. Florida State, on the other hand, spent some time in the doghouse after losing the B.C.S. title game to Oklahoma.
Are the Seminoles back? You know, really back? I don't think Saturday's result necessarily answers that question. But the final score sends a message in either direction: either F.S.U. is back or there's still work to be done. Even with a loss, you have to think that Seminoles will get there eventually.
http://www.presnapread.com/ten-years-later-catching-up-with-o-u/
Nailed it. The measure of FSU being "back" isn't found in a single game. No, being "back" means playing very good football on a consistent basis, regardless of record, bounces, etc. That cannot happen in a single-game setting. Win or lose, we'll evaluate whether FSU is "back" at the end of the season.
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Clemson?
as FSU has three cupcakes in the next four weeks after this game
are you not counting the bye week in there? or are you feeling that much better after Clemson’s struggles in the first two weeks?
by ScottyDoesntNole on Sep 16, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions
Bye week is counted. I’m saying he has plenty of time to rest up if he takes a beating.
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gotcha, thanks, great work as usual!
by ScottyDoesntNole on Sep 16, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
But you're saying Clemson next Saturday
is a cupcake? Or am I missing something?
I think they're more of one than we originally feared. I still label it a trap game to some extent, but I do feel better about it having seen CU play.
(and having seen that Dabo is still Dabo, even w/ the new coaches on board)
agreed
After watching both programs thus far I really do think we would have a great chance of beating clemson with Trick..
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by Seminole4Ever on Sep 16, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on with it Bud
Enough of the leaning this way or that, give us your final score for tomorrow.
Really, really need
the crowd this game.. and I think we’ll deliver. The anticipation for this game is palpable; more so than the UF game last year, and we were damn loud for that. I echo your concern in regards to if OU jumps out with an early lead. Great preview.
And even the alumni will be drunk by 8.
Doak will be rocking.
There's no way the crowd will be any less belligerent than last year's game at UF
to be honest, I expect it to be louder.
Championship!
Hope so to
While that was loud for the last decade Doak Has and Can be louder.
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by Seminole4Ever on Sep 16, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll do my part
But I’m one person in the student section. The first two games were so quiet at times I could almost hear Jimbo yelling at the guys. The alumni section is downright terrible. I sat there for the FSU Georgia Tech game a few years back and I was appalled at their lack of enthusiasm. The disdain for UF really helped the crowd get into the game last year and I really don’t see that happening this game. I hope I’m wrong, but I expect it to only be loud on pivotal downs.
It will be loud
Vic will be jumping all over. And as long as enough do their part the rest will follow
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Optimistic hopeful prediction for Oklahoma 31-27 Noles. The reality 33-24 Oklahoma.....Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vic will be slapping alumni before each kickoff....
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You are right
My tickets are in the alumni section, as I’ve sadly hit the mid (late) 30’s where shade matters with the wife and kids, but I would still stand the entire game including time outs if possible. Last time I took a stand (literally) and tried to stand during a Florida game a few years back, I was invited to fight if I would not sit down. Not being sure of the statute penalties of breaking an old person’s hip I respectfully declined, but it is a real problem. If you are shackled similar to me, keep in mind you don’t necessarily have to stand to make noise.
It is your not just your job, but your DUTY..
to instruct the drunk/uninformed fans of when to be quiet and when to be loud. Take pride in your work, my friend.
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by CrimiNole Defense on Sep 16, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
does anyone know how many gators typically go to doak?
I’m a little worried about our ceiling for crowd noise with OU doubling their visitor ticket allotment, and that not counting how many OU fans bought the 3 game packages direct from FSU. But I suspect it is a similar tale when UF comes to town.
I would think their will always be more UF fans based on proximity
If its not loud tomorrow night it will never be loud again. Its really that simple. Cant get up for tomorrows game nothing will
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Good stuff
it’s obvious…but wasn’t mentioned….we can’t have DUMB penalties that helps them extend drives or kills our own…
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Yeah, just thought it wasn’t specific to this game.
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I feel you
The dumb penalty by Miss. St’s secondary was a key turning point in their loss to LSU last night IMO…
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Miss State
Would have probably won the Auburn game had not the linebacker feigned a blitz. He stuck his head over the line and the Auburn center snapped the ball. The pass was intercepted and ran back to near the Auburn goal line but was called back due to the penalty and Auburn scored again. Miss State could well have won the game without that penalty.
I think Clemson has a real shot at beating Auburn.
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Yeah this is the most anticipated game I can remember in a long time.
I think the crowd will rise up and be a factor!
Bud, do they rotate Lewis and Alexander?
I thought I saw some clips with Alexander at RE and Lewis at LE.
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They might. I’d rather have Datko face Lewis because he is really good against speed rushers.
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Where would you compare Alexander with other guys Sanders has faced?
Bailey? Unsure of others.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
Probably not as physically strong as Bailey (not many are)
but much more savvy and more natural as a pass rusher. Bailey was alot more effective rushing the passer from the inside IMO.
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 16, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant to say
Alexander is better rushing the passer from the edge than Bailey was last year
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 16, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Datko outweights Lewis by Tony Jefferson
Lewis will not be bull rushing.
by TuckNole on Sep 16, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I believe I saw that myself
i think they move Lewis around from time to time. We can block him, just don’t wanna spend alot of time having to find him first
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 16, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Nole fans are pumped
I don’t think the crowd will be a let down. Different story if ou scores on their first 4 out of 5 drives though
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by kmp9494 on Sep 16, 2011 3:44 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
He is 211 he said. Not huge for sure
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Whenever they start listing weights rounding down to the 1's
i.e. 211 vs. 210, it usually means they weighed the kid with his pads and helmet on. Just the inverse of the NFL years ago when 305 lbs. was code for 350+ lbs.
You're speaking about Tony Jefferson
he’s employed more so as a nickel back rover type. He’ll play in the box some on running downs (or against pro style attacks) and and as a S on a lot of passing downs with one of the starting safeties covering the slot
by westcoastnolefan on Sep 16, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It's going to get rough out there.
I hope the little fellow doesn’t get hurt.
1750
If i’m not mistaken is the size of their front seven. We’ve heard talk and we have seen it eloquently explained that size wins championships. However, I am wondering what can we really expect from Oklahoma’s defense. Can our offense do the things it wants against them?
I think that if we can make the right line calls
we will have plenty of success running the ball. Especially with EJ running the ball, extra blocker and all.
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it was when our defense was around that number!
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by Seminole4Ever on Sep 16, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Think Jimbo will want to pick on Tom Wort?
Wasn’t he the one that was running his yap about how “simple” Jimbo’s offense was? JF strikes me as a prdeful guy when it comes to his offense, he’s a lot harder on them. I have a sneaky suspcision they will go after Wort early and often (PA, 1 on 1 with a RB or Pryor, TE drags).
by FSUActuary on Sep 16, 2011 4:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't think Jimbo pays attention to anything Tom Wort says.
He wouldn’t let Wort mess with his process any more than he would want opposing trash talking to distract our players’ concentration or their assignments.
I don't really see Jimbo
as the “Bellichik” type. Jimbo will do whatever it takes to win and won’t ploy around with Wort unless he see’s a serious advantage.
If we do employ multiple TE sets
I could see Jimbo trying to isolate Nick O’Leary against Tom Wort → which is a huge advantage for FSU IMO.
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Oh yeah, my prediction is, FSU 34, OU 21
Two reasons: special teams, and EJ Manuel.
The kicking game will play a factor and we have a huge advantage there.
I remembered the ACCCG last year and even in a loss, EJ played brilliantly. He strikes me as a kid that relishes the big games, and I think you’ll see his best game in a Nole uniform.
by FSUActuary on Sep 16, 2011 5:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Lonnie Pryor will want to pick on Tom Wort.....
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Life sure throws some strange twists sometimes.
The contrasts are uncanny: the beginning of our decline came against OU in the NC game in 2001; now, 10 years later, we play OK at a time when the Noles are clearly on the rise. An old OC on his way out with no game plan; a new OC, now HC, with a year to game plan. A passing QB missing his best receiver; a running QB looking for a best receiver. Offensive juggernauts held to less than 2 touchdowns; a possible offensive shoot-out?
We have a chance to make a huge statement in this game, and I think our guys will do just that.
I know you saw this but some others may not have.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
I know it's naive and premature
But if we win this one FSU is back, for me. Mainly because I’m tired of waiting. My entire 6 year stretch on campus was within the lost decade. It was miserable. I was there in the freezing cold rain when wake shellacked us at home. If we lose we clearly aren’t there, but if we win, my personal wait is over. If I just jinxed the Clemson game you guys can beat me up…
Wouldn’t consider us back yet, just competitive. Need to finish first in the conference or win ACCCG and play in BCS bowl game IMO regardless what happens with OU
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exactly
which is why I said I’d rather for us to lose to OU…and then beat Clemson next week….opposed to beating OU and then losing to Clemson next week….
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Yep cause at the end of the day, a loss by either team means zippo in terms of getting a BCS bowl slot and that’s what I want.
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Id rather us kick both their assess and take their virginity
by TCHOP561 on Sep 16, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec...
but i think we should take thier girlfriends’ virginity instead. Just sayin.
by New Mexico Nole on Sep 16, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
34-23 OU
i think we score late, and make the game closer than it really is. i was never really too confident in this game going in, and the closer we get to it the less confident i get. are we 30 points better? idk, maybe. was OU only 30 points better last year? no. they could have hung 60+ on us last year had they wanted to. they’re probably the most polished, efficient offense in the nation, and we’re just in year two of a defensive scheme. offensively we have a lot of questions to answer (interior ol, key wrs might be missing, run game). their defense doesn’t really scare me (esp with Lewis out), but they all know it well, and are extremely well coched. plus the offense is so good, the defense really only needs a few stops a game.
I hate this question...
Did we get 51 points better than Florida last year?
Sure..we're 30 pts better...check it
-We had 3 turnovers last year
-12 penalties for 95 yards
-They were 10-17 on third downs
-We were 5-16 on third downs
Eliminate the turnovers and penalties….and be able to sustain drives by converting on third downs….that closes the gap dramatically right there…
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very little correlation with penalties and winning
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Exhibit A: 1991 Cotton Bowl
The U 46 Texas 3; UM had 202 yards of penalties (mostly unsportsmanlike conducts, personal fouls and more unsportsmanlike conducts).
Sometimes when you get an opponent down on the ground, the refs will throw a bunch of flags while you curb stomp him.
Yeah but Miami too it too an extreme… I think TX’s mistake was being in the same the Cotton bowl giving the Miami players “cotton” as they came off the plane as a gift and some of the people there referring to them as “boy” … I think that pretty much set the tone. Not to say they weren’t going to act like that any… But don’t tug on superman’s cape, ya know.
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by FSU on Sep 16, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yea...
basically what I was saying is you don’t want to give them ANYTHING in regards to penalties.
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Don't agree
OU scored 14 points against Florida in the 2009 game and that was with Bradford. They don’t stack up well against a good “grown ass men” defense.
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no that was without bradford.
he was injuried and lost for the season
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by Seminole4Ever on Sep 16, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It was with Bradford.
UF defense really did a number on what was probably the best offense of the last 10 years.
Can we replicate that?
5’9 Free Safety? Check.
Strong Safety who is bad in coverage but hits like a brick? Check.
First/Second round type Left DE? Check.
ZOMG. Jimbo is trying to recreate the 2008 UF defense!
one game doesn't really measure the teams
The Huskers last September laid the wood to the University of Washington by the tune of 56-21. Just three months later, Washington paid them back and beat Nebraska by a score of 19-7 in the Holiday Bowl.
You see it in the pros all the time. One team beats the crap out of another, and then 6 weeks later the score is reversed. As they say, on any give Saturday (in the case of college football) and any given Sunday with the big boys.
When we play UM and UF this year do they need to improve by 30 points in order to win?
No, and all this bs about how we must improve by 40 points in order to win is just that….crap!
by law74 on Sep 16, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
good post.
The Huskers and Huskies is a good analogy.
My high school has its homecoming dance tomorrow night...
Meaning I will not be able to watch the game. (Although I’m recording it to watch the moment I come home early sunday morning of course) Hope you all enjoy the game. I think 38-34 OU wins, hope I’m wrong. But it should be a great showcase for both teams. The recruits better take notice of a sold out Doak, it certainly hasn’t happened in a while. Go Noles!
Homecoming is overrated, wait for Prom.
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by CrimiNole Defense on Sep 16, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You need to go after the game to the hotel parties
the dance itself can be missed
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What?
Homecoming dance 3 weeks into the season? On first decent weekend of college football? Are there any chicks at this dance or is it raining men?
There better be chicks at this dance!
There’s no way fate would make me miss the OU game for a bad homecoming. Hopefully my date understands my pain and, lets say, makes it all better?
missing this game is like taking a girl to dinner
And her getting the lobster. You best be getting paid back later in some way. Missing this game is a lot more expensive then the lobster in those terms
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Optimistic hopeful prediction for Oklahoma 31-27 Noles. The reality 33-24 Oklahoma.....Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me and my girlfriend went to her high schools junior homecoming dance last year. This years should be even better.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
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What are you glorifying with your life?
by ricobert1 on Sep 16, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Missed PAT
What are you glorifying with your life?
by ricobert1 on Sep 16, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bud you NAILED IT!!!
We cannot over emphasize the importance of the Doak environment and crow NOISE!! Doak has to be rockin like it did during select games in the late 80’s and 90’s. That is the only way I see us winning this game to be honest. I just dont know if we know or remember how to get like that anymore..
The current student body has rarely if ever in their life seen Doak truley rocking and the older alumi have grown up and become proper..lol.
We should have started emphasizing this importance earlier in the week..
1 - 2 Jimbo's coming for you, 3 - 4 Gator’s better lock their door, 5 - 6 grap your crucifix, 7 – 8 Muschamp better stay up late, 9 - 10 never sleep again!!!
I'll be sitting on the shade side
I’ve got my vuvuzuela packed.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
by BenDNole on Sep 16, 2011 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Up in NC i have not seen anyone sneak the into a game
At UNC you would likely and very quickly be escorted out of the game. Talk about some Alumni not making any noise..lol..
1 - 2 Jimbo's coming for you, 3 - 4 Gator’s better lock their door, 5 - 6 grap your crucifix, 7 – 8 Muschamp better stay up late, 9 - 10 never sleep again!!!
by Seminole4Ever on Sep 16, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Normally I am anti-vuvuzela, but I think this is an appropriate situation for one.
Formerly Gulfport Nole
by CrimiNole Defense on Sep 16, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we bring them in?
I have mine, but I don’t want to lose it lol.
If its loud enough that it needs muting then bring them and bring some for everyone around
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Optimistic hopeful prediction for Oklahoma 31-27 Noles. The reality 33-24 Oklahoma.....Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol loud enough yes. Annoying big YES!
I have a couple in my house to wake up hungover guest the next morning lol.
by SUPER_NOLED on Sep 16, 2011 10:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
its not so much the volume
its the fact that the soccer fans never stopped
how about we agree to only rock the vuvuzuela while the bad guys are trying to run a hurry-up offense -
i think we can all live w/ that…
From Wikipedia...
Vuvuzela
The intensity of these outputs depends on the blowing technique and pressure exerted.
TWSS
by NoleLaw on Sep 17, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Defer
1 - 2 Jimbo's coming for you, 3 - 4 Gator’s better lock their door, 5 - 6 grap your crucifix, 7 – 8 Muschamp better stay up late, 9 - 10 never sleep again!!!
by Seminole4Ever on Sep 16, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's fine...
Our offense usually asks for the rock first when we win a coin toss. We like to get our offense in rhythm early and often. Give us the ball first…
FINAL SCORE: FLORIDA STATE 37 oklahoma 28
Biggest surprise offensive player aside from EJ Manuel of course- Beau Reliford. (Yes that Beau)
Defensive CO-MVP’s-Nigel Bradham and Mike Harris.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Sep 16, 2011 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Strangely enough
The difference in this game could well be Chris Thompson, Devonta Freeman and Nick O’Leary.
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by DocHoliday2 on Sep 16, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
FSU 37 - 24
THIS KOOL-AID TASTES LIKE #WINNING!
by MasterWolf on Sep 16, 2011 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't see 37 points
I think we need to hold them in the low 20’s to win.
by ACC_Apologist on Sep 16, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
all i saw was #winning
i still hntdeer and liv4noles.
by NOLEcasterWX on Sep 17, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Just went back and looked...smh
Three of OU’s six TD’s were a 36yd pass, 48 yd pass, and a 18 yd pass…..that ain’t happening tomorrow night…
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DOnt think so either..
They are going to have to drive the field. We got very good at making teams make methodical drives last year and then going on lock down in the short field. They might get 1 or 2 big scores though and that will likely be the difference in the game.
1 - 2 Jimbo's coming for you, 3 - 4 Gator’s better lock their door, 5 - 6 grap your crucifix, 7 – 8 Muschamp better stay up late, 9 - 10 never sleep again!!!
by Seminole4Ever on Sep 16, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If I could, I would stand outside the stadium passing out flyers to the masses.
ATTENTION FLORIDA STATE FANS:
While Florida State is on offense, please feel free to rest your legs. Discuss world politics with your friends and family. Check your Twitter or Facebook feeds. Use the bathroom.
While Florida State is on defense, you had better damn well be standing and screaming. Not just yelling. Screaming. Make noise with every essence of your being. If you leave the game and you can still speak without feeling slightly hoarse, you have waisted the $500+ per seat you spent on this trip.
Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
The softer, gentler, "I am at work" version of DutchFSU.
by DutchFSU2 on Sep 16, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 14 recs
Rec for that one Dutch!!
1 - 2 Jimbo's coming for you, 3 - 4 Gator’s better lock their door, 5 - 6 grap your crucifix, 7 – 8 Muschamp better stay up late, 9 - 10 never sleep again!!!
by Seminole4Ever on Sep 16, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, slight fix if you please.
*Wasted, not waisted. My bad.
The softer, gentler, "I am at work" version of DutchFSU.
100%
You are right Bud. I think the last section is what every thread should have. I dont think fans realize sometimes just how importen they can be in a game. Fans have to get loud In the bars at there partys in the parking lot b ut most of all in our house. The fear of the fans is why both death vallies are feared why the Swamp is hard to win. Swing that Arm back and forth and yell the war chant and OU will hear you they will feel you and they will fear you.
FEAR THE F’N SPEAR
>>>————————————————————"—>
everyone should have a pet Honey Badger named "Stanley".
problem solved problem staying solved. Rangers Lead The Way
know what
Dont fear the spear
MAKE THEM FEAR THE SPEAR
everyone should have a pet Honey Badger named "Stanley".
problem solved problem staying solved. Rangers Lead The Way
I've been feeling better as the week progresses.
Jimbo almost always seems to get the O going and get it to produce when it needs to. Last year we had to rely on the run a lot more than in previous years and we were still in the top 10 at the end of the season. I think Jimbo has done possibly the best job of sandbagging in history. I think Thompson will hit is stride and EJ to Freeman in the flat or on a wheel route will cause some trouble for OU. I know there’s some concerns about Stork and Krug, but I think it will work well and it’s definitely not something OU has seen much. If there was ever a game to get hyped for and deliver some crushing blocks, here it is.
I’d like to think Bert will be at full speed and it’s another aspect of Jimbo sandbagging. Shaw’s precise route running fits well against this type of D. Agree that Rashad, NOL, or maybe Christian need to step up. Overall, I think OU will come in cocky and overconfident. Seems to be the culture there and is represented in their players’ comments. Then they’ll wonder who just punched them in the mouth and knocked their teeth out. It’s hard to go wire-to-wire at No. 1 and this game is as good as any to derail OU from doing it this year.
I was thinking similar thoughts
Jimbo absolutely does a good job of hiding his game plan for big games.
Most anticipated game since my freshman year.
2000 UF. Wienke, Warrick. Funniest. Game. Ever.
What was so funny about it?
Formerly Gulfport Nole
by CrimiNole Defense on Sep 16, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
2000 UF game no have Petey
Petey play for Bungels by then.
good stuff on ESPN film room about the noles right now
everyone should have a pet Honey Badger named "Stanley".
problem solved problem staying solved. Rangers Lead The Way
Dammit, I'm at work.
AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE DEPLOYED!?!?!?!
The softer, gentler, "I am at work" version of DutchFSU.
naw man I got back from Korea back in March.
Im at FT Bragg now
everyone should have a pet Honey Badger named "Stanley".
problem solved problem staying solved. Rangers Lead The Way
FSU 31 OU 10
Lifes a SPEAR then U TRIBE!!!!!
"We Are FLORIDA STATE!!!!"
"I know what you're scared of.... Its comin' BANK ON IT!"
-CoachColey
by mobaynole on Sep 16, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
that would be beautiful.
I’m thinking FSU 27 OU 24. But I do like yours better.
by dominicannole on Sep 16, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Outstanding write up
Although I thin Ou is a little overrated.
The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.....Thomas Jefferson
"My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference." - President Harry S. Truman
I've been watching espn all day and everyone
is say that Landry and Co are just way to much for FSU and EJ has no supporting cast..
1 - 2 Jimbo's coming for you, 3 - 4 Gator’s better lock their door, 5 - 6 grap your crucifix, 7 – 8 Muschamp better stay up late, 9 - 10 never sleep again!!!
Couldnt agree more w/ this.
Keep it close and our depth and crowd will win this.
by New Mexico Nole on Sep 16, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see
FSU start the game as if they were already down by three touchdowns. No wasted plays and make every second count. Go Noles!
by Nole-it-all on Sep 16, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Also, people who are talking about another OU blowout are delusional
Here’s what things looked like for them in 2010:
- Visiting & Neutral Site Games: OU only outscored opponents 248 (avg. 35.4) to 203 (avg 29).
- True Road Games (Excluding Neutral Site Games): OU only outscored opponents 192 (avg: 35.4) to 148 (avg 32.6).
So in True Road Games on average the difference is only a field goal.
Championship!
I hope your right
But I really can see a 10-14 pt loss
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Optimistic hopeful prediction for Oklahoma 31-27 Noles. The reality 33-24 Oklahoma.....Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you can see a 10-14 pt loss,
please close your eyes, you can re-open them after the game.
by realnole1128 on Sep 16, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hey, I never said who would have the loss by that margin
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt. F the ACC
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
Optimistic hopeful prediction for Oklahoma 31-27 Noles. The reality 33-24 Oklahoma.....Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!!
This game just needs to happen already.
I’m so nervous/excited I could barf. I’ve had butterflies all day, and I know tomorrow I won’t be able to do anything but talk about the game.
What in the wide, wide world of sports is a-goin' on here?!
by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Sep 16, 2011 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
TUMS! DAMN IT I NEED THEM!
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Sep 16, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to hang in there
FSU cannot afford to get down by several scores early. The guys that are able to handle the moment early are going to have the big advantage. I think the ’Noles have to stay within striking distance throughout the game and try to get it to the 4th with a shot to win. Playing from behind early is a recipe for disaster in this game.
>>---l>
May picks OU
Holtz picks FSU. ’Nuff said.
by New Mexico Nole on Sep 16, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions
I don't know if we win this one or not
my hopes are that FSU wins. My mind says it will take a perfect game and a few guys playing over and above themselves. I’ve taken a lot of heat from friends saying that. This is an important game, real important. Still… it is Clemson that is the target, and the Noles have to win that game. This game, it’s all gravy if they win, but it is tragic if they lose to Clemson. So OU fans, sorry if I don’t get worked up like I should but when it comes to conference wins, OU is no Clemson.
Understandable!
We have Mizzou in a revenge game after you guys, so I’d like all our guys to come out of this game healthy so we can shellack them in our own house this year!
Wine and cheese crowd..
Doak can be loud, but not if 30,000 FSU fans on the shade side are sitting down and waiting for third down to get really loud.
This is what we need…
Really feel like...
The paragraph about the crowd should be on the front page by itself tomorrow in addition to being at the bottom of this preview. Its importance can in no way be overstated.
Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.
Ive been on TN for a couple years now
And I gotta say this is an excellent piece Bud. REALLY liked thr bit about thr fans…i can feel the intensity through the computer (..errr phone). I have ALOT of belief in this game, and its mainly because, within the last couple of years, this much optimism hasnt come out of Buds fingertips …ever… :) I cant express my eagerness for this game enough.
I know we cant measure if the Noles r back-frankly im not interested in this question-but we can see where our team actually stands on a national scale …. Scalp em Noles
by LetsGoNoles on Sep 16, 2011 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks Bud
The write up was awesome as always and saves us a ton of time from sorting through the crap on other sites. My favorite part was about the importance of the fans. I graduated in 2005 and can say I have never seen this fantastic showing from the fans in Doak that I so often heard about. Personally, it has frustrated me for years when our fellow fans give me a hard time for standing up, getting loud, and cheering on our team.
recievers
i dont agree with your thoughts on the recievers i think we have the advantage.rodney will have a huge game.there is no way in hell they will leave there corners alone one on one with him.ej will throw the ball deep and even if he doest complete them they have seen on film how much he likes to go deep.so we will see a bunch of cover 3 cover 4 and that means hitches and comebacks all day and the backs will have to make plays in the flats to open up the middle for the Tight ends and recievers across the middle or vice versa.man coverage spells death for the sooners with ej able to run.
Don't think they're the least bit scared of our receivers
They have a great secondary. I think you overestimate Smith. Great size, hasn’t done much against real competition.
>>---l>
Game clincher against UM last year?
Best game of his career (4 for 121) against the best defense we played last year, to seal the division? Admittedly he was doing it on jump balls, but if he’s got that going consistently, it’s not a bad option.
Anyway, not disputing the broader point — don’t think our receivers have done enough to make them scared. I like to think, however, that’s going to set them up to get burned… not only by Smith, but everybody’s new hero, Rashad Greene.
Ha, not sure there was a game-clincher against UM last year
But yeah, the point was the larger one. If Smith is the biggest worry at wideout that OU has to deal with, well…
>>---l>
didnt we back into the ACC game by others losing?
Not sure how we sealed the division against anyone
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twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
Optimistic hopeful prediction for Oklahoma 31-27 Noles. The reality 33-24 Oklahoma.....Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!!
Might agree with you if
Haulstead was playing, but w/o him we will need someone to step up in his place, even by committee (preferred).
by realnole1128 on Sep 16, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Picked OU to win after the CSU game,
sticking with OU 37, FSU 23.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
Ummm You suck!
Have some of my Koolaid, it is spiked with Rum!
well, I do like the rum...
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Sep 17, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
24-23 with a game winning field goal by Hopkins. Landry throws 2 picks (Mike Harris on both?) and we dominate the field position battle. They won’t and shouldn’t kick to G5. Our offense struggles in the passing game except to the TEs (NOL with a good game) but the run game carries the offense. Defensive line, most notably THE GERMAN, absolutely makes the difference. GET LOUD NOLES!
I hope not
Talk about adding a few years to my life. Being down by 2 points and sending Hopkins out for the game winner?
It is not Miami.
We will be fine. Remember he did kicked the Hell out of the 53 yarder(or was it more) last year to be Clemson.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
yea 55 yards and still 3/4 the way up the goal posts
But that game was tied. A miss just sends us to OT. I can handle that more then being down 2 and trying to win on a FG. I will not see it. Will wake up in the hospital after the chest pains
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt. F the ACC
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
Optimistic hopeful prediction for Oklahoma 31-27 Noles. The reality 33-24 Oklahoma.....Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand we should schedule
Better and not play this crazy ooc game with OU. But damn, I am having the best day and the weekend is planned out perfectly because of this game. It would not have happened otherwise.i
by maxi_judson on Sep 16, 2011 8:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That's why we need to be in SEC...
Great games each and every weekend…maybe we don’t win them all but the Doak would rock every weekend!,,
This will ...
http://www.youtube.com/user/dano12345671?feature=mhee#p/c/977C025B0570DF24/3/Do68KGT6gCQ
Not only do we win this game
But Eddie Goldman decides he wants to play along side Little Timmy next year and set the record for sacks by interior D linemen the following year. Not sure what that record is but 20 sounds about right.
I haven't heard from Nole07 in forever.
I last got an e-mail from him in July, and he was getting ready for law school at his first choice school.
What in the wide, wide world of sports is a-goin' on here?!
by JustLikeYouOnlyPrettier on Sep 16, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I've already graduated law school and have been practicing for five years
about a year and a half ago I setup my own practice and have been busy as anything ever since. I had actually setup parent controls on my computer to help me focus and keep me off TN. Some update caused the parent controls to interfere with my billing and accounting software so they got removed and am back. Still busy as anything, practice is going well. Have a home office and get to spend most days working in shorts and FSU t-shirts while sitting on the couch in my family room working on the laptop. Can’t beat being your own boss.
I may need to do that....
hard to concentrate sometimes with this going on…..
sweeet! thanks for the heads up!
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Sep 16, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I have noticed a lot of people who went to school during the Lost Decade don't really have respect for Doak
I know it was a while ago but that stadium can get absolutely bonkers. I remember growing up and losing my voice at every game especially in middle school.
This game’s gonna be bonkers. I’m getting to the Tailgate at 7 am tomorrow. I’m soooo ready for this game! I’m starting to think we pull it out 28-24 BLOOM!
The Funk Phenomenon.
agreed
Went from 97-00 never saw us lose a game at home
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twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
Optimistic hopeful prediction for Oklahoma 31-27 Noles. The reality 33-24 Oklahoma.....Go Noles!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gonna go with Noles 30-17
the only clear advantage I see is at receiver with Broyles. otherwise its a wash imo. with the home crowd, and the way players were(or felt they were) disrespected by OU players after the game, I expect to see a highly motivated, more talented, and much better prepared team in this rematch, Go Noles!!!
by realnole1128 on Sep 16, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice are you from Philly?
The Funk Phenomenon.
by willdabeast on Sep 17, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
We may not win tomorrow
but I think smart Nole fans will be very pleased overall with their performance.
What are you glorifying with your life?
Really really hope, I hope I don't walk out of there with a loss AND thinking
“What the hell was that…”
If we lose, it better be because they were just a bit better…
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Sep 17, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Crazy to think in 1 year the D could carry the O
In order for us to win our D has to play great, I just don’t see the O being able to put over 28 on the board and to hold OU under 28 should will be an accomplishment. Now TO’s would be the deciding factor for me, and by TO I mean the D making plays not OU being bad, which I think that is to much to ask.
"We are building a program not a team, it is about the process. We prepare everyday so we expect to win."
Best line:
“And if the guy behind you tells you to sit down because he can’t stand, tell him you can’t sit for some medical reason (hemorrhoids or restless leg syndrome might do the trick).”
Or tell him that, given he’s got a thumb up his rear, he’d probably feel better standing up and screaming as well.
Reverse psyvhology
We do better when he picks against us….. :-)
A Pessimist Complains About The Weather
An Optimist Waits For It To Change
A Realist Adjusts The Sails
NOLES ARE BACK!!!!!!
THE NOLES ARE BACK!!!! And I don’t want to hear anything to the contrary !!!! The breath of life that JIMBO has put into this program Couldn’t of been more impactfull to all fronts. Dont you hear the sound of the GIANT AWAKENING ??? The same recipe for success that fed the MONSTER NOLE teams of the past still exists today!!! That MONSTER now has new blood!!! THANKS JIMBO!!!!!
by FOREVERNOLE on Sep 17, 2011 6:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Like I said..
can’t have dumb penalties….and we had quite a few that impacted the game.
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