Florida State Seminoles Game Preview: Louisiana-Monroe (ULM)
by Bud Elliott on Sep 2, 2011 1:00 PM EDT
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PrintThe Florida State Seminoles host the Louisiana Monroe Warhawks to open the season. This is the first meeting between the programs, both of which appear to be on the rise. For more on the Warhawks, please see Louisiana Monroe at Florida State: Scouting Report.
Line: FSU-29
Fun Stuff
Florida State will retire Terrell Buckley’s No. 27 jersey during a halftime ceremony at the season-opening game against ULM. A consensus All-American and winner of the 1991 Jim Thorpe Award, Buckley holds FSU’s career (21) and single-season (12, ’91) interception records. He is also the NCAA’s all-time leader in career interception return yardage (501).
Former Seminole greats Chris Weinke and Sam Cowart will be inducted into the Florida State University Athletic Hall of Fame on the eve of the opener. Weinke, winner of the 2000 Heisman, led the ‘Noles in a wire-to- wire run at No. 1 in the polls and a perfect 12-0 mark in 1999. Cowart, one of the top linebackers in school history, overcame a devastating knee injury to win the ACC’s Brian Piccolo Award in 1997.
Buckley, Weinke and Cowart are serving as the honorary captains on the field. -Media Guide
Strategy
Florida State has a massive talent advantage in this game. Instead of highlighting what FSU must do to beat ULM, I'll highlight things I plan on watching.
Games are won up front and that's where we will start this thing. FSU's offensive line can physically dominate ULM's defensive front... as long as they block the right defenders. As discussed, ULM's defense uses a ton of pre-snap motion, stunting, and blitzing. Florida State's starting offensive line of LT Andrew Datko, LG Bryan Stork, C Jacob Fahrenkrug, RG David Spurlock and RT Zebrie Sanders has not had the chance to work together very much as a singular unit due to injury. They must communicate well, make sure not to have two guys blocking one man and turn another defender loose unblocked. If they have their assignments down (and I think they will to an acceptable level as this is a veteran group under the tutelage of a great coach), they should open some huge holes. Oh, and I want to see the snaps from Fahrenkrug.
Watch how EJ Manuel reads the defense. We know EJ has a big arm and great legs. Is he reading the different levels of the defense? Is Manuel making the proper protection and play checks at the line? This is something the average fan didn't understand that Christian Ponder did so well. Is he delivering the balls accurately?
Speaking of those receivers, this is their debut. We've heard how they've improved this fall. With a new QB, FSU needs the receivers to play much better than they did last season. Christian Ponder is not there to bail them out. Are they running crisp routes and consistently catching the football? The score isn't all that important in this one. It's how the players play. Haulstead is out with the concussion, so look to see is Bert Reed and Rodney Smith play like upperclassmen. Also look to see who emerges from the group of young receivers consisting of Jared Haggins, Kenny Shaw, Greg Dent, Christian Green and Rashad Greene.
I know the running backs can run. I want to see how they pick up the blitz. Has this group shown a commitment during the week to focus on ULM's complex defense? It is their job to keep EJ safe.
The youth movement will be something worth watching. I expect at least ten of FSU's 14 offensive rookies to get playing time. This was the top recruiting class in the country, and this is your chance to see them in action before the medical redshirts are handed out after game two.
Many of the same themes found on the offense show up when watching the defensive side of the ball.
Florida State's defensive line should be able to dominate this offensive line. But that's not what you should watch. No, you should watch to see if the defensive line is playing disciplined, fundamental football. That means keeping leverage on the ball and not over-pursuing on the misdirection stuff. Sure, the line could probably afford to play recklessly here and still make the plays due to the advantage in athleticism, but that is not the way to develop good habits. Brandon Jenkins will be matched up with a freshman left tackle making his first career start and should have a field day. I am really excited to see Timmy Jernigan.
I also want to see where these defensive tackles and nose guard align. Is McDaniel really going to play the Nose and Erving the three-technique?
I'll be watching for different things from different linebackers. From Nigel Bradham I want to see if his hips have loosened up by watching his change of direction. For Vince Williams, I want to see him in coverage. Telvin Smith? I want to see him taking on blocks. Christian Jones? I want to see his pursuit angles. As a unit, I want to see this group move and properly react to any pre-snap motion. I want to see them play fast and read on the fly, showing their increased comfort within the system. I want them getting receivers out of the seams and now allowing static holes. And I'd like to see the reserves like Jeff Luc and Nigel Terrell show off their skills.
As for this all-star secondary, I want to see if they really focused this week during preparation. With all the pre-snap shifting and motion done by ULM, FSU is vulnerable to giving up a big play not based on a dearth of talent, but rather not covering the correct man. I want to see Mike Harris, Greg Reid and Xavier Rhodes (all of which should play a lot because ULM is a spread team meaning FSU will use a lot of Nickel) quickly diagnose and jump route combinations. I want to see that feel from them that a dominant defense should have. And at safety, I want to see the Lamarcus Joyner we've been hearing about for a month now -- the Joyner that plays out of his mind and dominates from the safety position. And of course, I want to see who separates himself at the other safety position. Will it be Terrance Parks or Nick Moody? I expect a lot of cover-4 from the secondary, seeing that this ULM will show a lot of spread-option looks.
I also don't expect a lot of interceptions in this game. I anticipate Louisisna Monroe throwing very, very few intermediate or deep passes. Very hard to pick off the short stuff. And I expect ULM to run a lot as well.
Is a special teams preview really necessary for this game? I think not. Just avoid any embarrassing errors on national television.
Jimbo's Mindset
Jimbo values his practice time and reps more than anything. I am sure that he could come up with a gameplan to score many more points than FSU will likely score. But where is the value in specifically installing things for Louisiana Monroe? Wouldn't it be more valuable to the team to run stuff that will also be run later in the year, to gain valuable reps in the base offense in a real game situation, etc?
I think the offense may frustrate some tomorrow. Pay special attention to what FSU is doing on offense. Most likely it isn't strategy specifically formulated to drop half-a-hundred on the Warhawks. If he did want to do that, I think he would go 4-wide, run the heck out of Manuel, and play action all day. But I don't see the value in doing so in a game such as this.
Chance of winning: 99%
Yards-Per-Play Projection (pre-garbage time): FSU 6.5 | ULM 4.0
Predicted Score: 41-13
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If only their SID saw that Bud
He would probably send you a very threatening letter along the lines of:
Mr. Elliot,
We are the warhawks. You will refer to us as such. Not the Warkawks, the Warthogs, Hawks, Fighting Hawks. The Warhawks.
We are also 4 touchdown dogs. Not 3 touchdowns. Not 5 touchdowns. 4 touchdowns.
Have fun beating our ass,
ULM Warhawks Very serious SID
by Cody@TN on Sep 2, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Four shall be the number of the touchdowns and the number of the touchdowns shall be four. Five shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count three, excepting that thou then proceedeth to four. Six is right out.
Once the number four, being the number of the touchdowns, be reached, then lobbest thou Brandon Jenkins in the direction of thine foe’s QB, who, being naughty in my sight, shall be sacked.
by Washington Irving on Sep 2, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Can't get enough Monty Python.
REC.
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REC for slapstick awesomeness.
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by Sir Lawrence J on Sep 2, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I know it's fun to mock the ULM SID
and I know they’re huge underdogs, but what ever happened to sportsmanship and respect for your opponent? I think we should call them by their proper names. It’s not like it’s FU or anything.
This is pretty nerdy, I know, but I’m a very strong amateur chess player (a FIDE Master). I always shake hands with my opponent before the game, do my best to annihilate them during the game, and compliment what they did well after the game.
You compliment what they did well after annihilating them?
You condescending bastard! :)
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by devnole on Sep 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But that's intoi the seaon, right?
After chess two-a-days?
ps: not trying to minimize your point or the Sport of Kings, but i would ask, trying to evoke the tone made famous by Allan Iverson,
Chess?
(Think, Practice?)
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
God, I hope you're not being serious.
If you are, turn in your man card. WTH are you doing on a college football website…
For playing chess?
I think it fits with an interest in football: like coaching, it’s strategy. Kinda like BB liked The Art of War.
nerdy?
Your fellow masters would be ashamed. Becoming a master is quite an accomplishment! I would be a lot closer if I didn’t have to spend so much time studying.
I started with the firm conviction that when I came to the end, I wanted to be regretting the things that I had done, not the things I hadn't.
I don't know what a FIDE Master is but if that means you're the bomb at chess I gotta respeck that.
I think the disrespect is because they’re beetching about something stupid. Maybe FSU does it as well, but I’ve never heard of it. I’ve seen FSU, Florida St, Fla State and I’m sure other combinations. Who cares? It’s your university’s name. If you don’t like it, change your name.
It’s stupid. Very stupid. It’s not like we’re making fun of a coach or someone in his family who has some serious illness or something like that. And imo, it’s weird to say/think, “Opponent, I respeck you, but I also expect to beat you by 4 touchdowns…” Doesn’t really mesh.
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Who do you not expect to see?
I expect at least ten of FSU’s 14 offensive rookies to get playing time.
OLs?
Probably Beverly. 4th string.
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Did not know this
Bummer, read that he was looking good along with Matias
That's what I mean
He said who do you expect not to see
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I do not expect him
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Thinking Jimbo will give Smiley another chance after Lonnie
and then I think Abram will get some reps.
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Question about the nickel D
Which LB comes off the field in those situations? Vince?
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Could be Vince and Nigel, playing CJ and Telvin
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I like the coverage advantage that gives us.
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Get out of the game healthy!
Key component for the 1st 2 games.
by DesiNole on Sep 2, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
2nd Center
I really want to see if Austin Barron backs up Fahrenkrug – am assuming the starting O-line plays as long as EJ is in there.
I would not say this is a big leap of faith
From the depth chart perspective.
McMahon started as a true freshman and went on to have a pretty good career.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Pretty sure McMahon redshirted his freshman year.
I think he was also recruited as a DT
Thought both him and Rodney were true freshmen?
Definitely could be wrong here.
But yeah, Ryan was recruited as a DL.
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He was a RS
Trickett pulled him over between his first and second year. I think that was Trickett’s first year.
Ahhh, there, I was wrong
Definitely won’t be the last time.
But, back to the point, I really don’t see much difference in a true freshman center, and a converted RS DT thrown in at center.
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I think Austin Barron would get a chance for only the first 2 games
Before a medical redshirt, after that wouldn’t we move Stork or Spurlock to center if Krug is injuried? Then playing Faircloth, Foose or Orelous at Guard (Wish Snider was still around)
If there is one thing I have learned about this coaching staff it's this:
Don’t question The Trickett.
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by Nattylite on Sep 2, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Tricket will play anyone
So long as they survive his wrath
It's all about the process
Isn’t Sterling Lovelady an option at center as well?
"I really can't stand that NFL guy, what's his name? Mel, yeah Mel Kiper Jr. He knows about as much about football as a Japanese space pilot." - Coach Trickett
by Gulfport Nole on Sep 2, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Offensive rookies
Ones listed on the depth chart:
1.Trickett
2.Freeman
3.Greene
4.Green
5.Matias
6.Barron
7.Farhenkrug
Who esle is projected to get PT?
8.O’Leary
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Wilder should get some carries
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by Bud Elliott on Sep 2, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope so
I am 100% SOLD on JWJ as our future stud.
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by Aaron Tampa Nole on Sep 3, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Points scored
I say we win big (over 30) because of the talent discrepency. Late scores on long plays with the 2nd & 3rd teams will push us over.
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I agree
I think we’ll shut down most of the playbook and just run the ball in the 3rd and 4th. I think that will wear them down pretty quickly and we’ll break a couple of big plays late.
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I don't think so
I think Jimbo will run it with Freeman and Wilder with Beverly at fullback, but I see a good mix of Trickett slinging it to Shaw, Dent, Green, Greene, etc.
Those guys will need as many reps as they can get, and Jimbo has shown he doesn’t care what the score is, he will get guys realistic experience. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jimbo go 4-wide in the 4th quarter to see how Trickett and the wideouts react.
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by freshcollegeboy on Sep 2, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
So Jimbo will go 4-Wide in the fourth and we won't win by 30?
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And when I say long plays I mean that we break something long
Not Trickett throwing bombs to Rashad.
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Are you asking me?
I already said we win by 30.
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by freshcollegeboy on Sep 2, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
What quarter do you believe we'll pull the starters?
Me, I’m going with second quarter
It's all about the process
Edit.......I mean 3rd quarter
It's all about the process
If things go according to plan
after the first or second offensive series of the second half.
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by fsu44 on Sep 2, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We have been really blessed from an injury perspective
I just hope we can keep it up throughout the year.
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Prediction
Score=49-3 starters pulled early 3rd quarter
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so
we will get to see Clint Trickett in the game…I wanna see the kid get some burn..
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I wouldnt be happy
to think I would have to face JWJ and Freeman for 2 quarters when we pull the starters.
Freeman will get reps in the whole game IMO
Wilder will make some highlights in the fourth when that defense gets tired.
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by freshcollegeboy on Sep 2, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
As are the starters....
draw straws to see who will tackle THAT guy
by FSUActuary on Sep 2, 2011 5:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Late it will be Jermaine and JWJ.
People are really underestimating Devonta by grouping him with the freshmen. He is not Bobby Hart. Fisher is not going to treat him like a freshman. Watch and see.
41-13....
TRM, you been taking sneak peeks again before making your “Bud” predictions???
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That was actually MY prediction.
Bud will just have to pick another score.
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Took the under
41-6
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by AMFKNole on Sep 2, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Score.
I see FSU piling it on – our ground game is going to dominate early. 50+ points for FSU, even with Freeman in there.
I think we’ll struggle a bit on 3rd and short Defensively, and I think we give up 1-2 scores on fluke gimmick passing plays by ULM.
I’ll take a SWAG at this one, and say 57-10, FSU.
Remember, these guys hung in with Arky for 3 Quarters last year. They are not a super-cupcake, but they are still a Sun Belt team.
GO NOLES!
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Don't understand either of these
even with Freeman in there.
I think we’ll struggle a bit on 3rd and short Defensively
Freeman is the best rusher. And why on earth should the largest D front in the ACC struggle with 3rd and short against a Sun Belt team?
T-Buck's punt return at SYR is forever etched in my mind (at the 4:47 mark).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxz1AG55BLc
One of the coolest plays I’ve ever seen. Caught the ball then just relaxed like he had called a fair catch— except he hadn’t. When the SYR players pulled up, he took off :) I wore out that VCR tape over the next few years.
By the way, sorry many of you guys weren’t around to see Deion, Dunn and T-Buck in their prime. They were wizards that made games fun to watch (and P-Dub was significantly slower than all of them.) I wonder who’s next?
by PeachTreeNole on Sep 2, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
T-Buck.
He held that ball like it was glued to his hand. I’ve never seen anyone quite as enthusiastic when he ran. It was like his feet were trying to run away from his legs!!
Loved the vid man.
Pick Against Michigan in 1991
T-Buck’s pick against Michigan is one of my favorite FSU plays. For context, we came into the big house (106,000 capacity crowd in the largest stadium at the time) ranked #1; Michigan was ranked #3 and had eventual Heisman-winner Desmond Howard. Tons of national hype leading up to that game. On the SECOND play of the game, Grbac throws that out, T-Buck snags it and races 40 yards for a TD. That play set the tone for the entire game. When the dust settled, we had hung 51 against Michigan — the most they had ever allowed at home (over 100 years) and the most they had surrended since the 50s.
Incidentally, while interviewing for an associate position in DC, I met with a partner who had a team picture from the 1991 Michigan team and a Wolverine helmet. Turns out he was a backup LB on that team. I occupied the entire 20 minutes recounting my favorite FSU memories from that game (T-Buck’s pick, our fake FG for a TD by William Floyd, Amp Lee’s incredible 44 yard run, etc.).
We had to fake the FG
The only thing that went wrong that day was our kicking…par for the course back then. Extra point tries were brutal.
Was first Seminole game I ever watched
had moved from NY in June of 91 when I was 12. And didnt care for college. watched that game and was like wow. This is amazing and the Noles are awesome. 20 years later. Stil here. I always though college was like HS in NY. Realized it was 50 times faster and more exciting then I ever could realize. I also love my Giants and the NFL. But college by far has some of the best traditions in sport. Playing for pride always makes for a more exciting game then guys that walk away with their money win lose or draw or even sit
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by 4-3ZoneShell on Sep 2, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ha ha
My Noles take priority. Although the j-o-b does help with the booster contributions!
by NolesStat! on Sep 2, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
We beat that ass
I mean, seriously. Beat. That. Ass.
Easily one of my top 5 favorite FSU games.
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Odd--I had a similarly strange interview related to that game.
I was being interviewed by a women who had gone to UM during the week before the game. She started the interview by telling me that Tallahassee was the ugliest city she has ever been to. She then explained to me how the aura of Michigan was going to win the game. The rest of the interview wasn’t much better. I took a lot of solace in our decimation of UM that weekend.
The fans up there still talk about that game
I was at the Big House when they played Iowa back in October 2002 and Michigan got beat. My dad and I were in a bar jsts off campus afterwards and I hear this guy standing behind us say, “I haven’t seen us get beat that bad since Florida State in ’91!”
It brought a smile to my face. That smile quickly left my face when I saw the score of our game against Notre Dame….OUCH!
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What about the "Crocodile" ?
so called because it was a throwback to Weldon on a play designed by Spurrier. Bobby couldn’t stand to give credit to a Gaytor so he called it the crocodile. If it wasn’t Charlie’ s first completion it was close. Was at the game, but rewatched it on my VCR for years. Could watch Bo Schembechler (sp?) stunned at halftime saying “he never thought he would see the day a team would come into the Big House and manhandle a Michigan team like that” all day. Absolutely priceless.
Awesome video
Kinda miss the showmanship aspect the game had to it back then. It wasnt the over the top ochocinco crap, but some of the posing and high stepping. Just cool stuff to watch
I was at that game
My girlfriend attended Lemoyne in Syracuse, so got to visit for best of both worlds = sex and football. Absolutely awesome play.
add a Pastrami on Rye and that's the pinnacle of male existence.
by The K-Man on Sep 2, 2011 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I can't wait for one day 10 years from now
There will be a similar highlight reel of this year’s team.
Where's Odell's highlights?!
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37-17
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by The Ryno and I Know on Sep 2, 2011 1:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Really depends on when they score
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Wouldn’t be the first time….but seriously, Bud’s calling 13. Clint sack and fumble giving them a short field and garbage score is not beyond reason
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by The Ryno and I Know on Sep 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think you're entirely off base.
I’ve been watching some of their play. They have a kid at QB who is a sneaky, sneaky bastard. He has some experience.
Offense reminds me of the Wake teams that beat our ass mercilessly. Lots of misdirection. I think we’ll shut it down, but not completely…especially not the young guns.
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Where did you find them
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deep digging. It’s alot of scoring plays (they have a propensity to run that read option when they get in the RZ). Lemme see what I can dig up.
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It's not much.
Strangely enough, there is not a ton of video of the powerhouse that is the ULM Warhawks.
Odd.
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Watched the highlights.
They seem to have some misdirection and speed, but they look so much smaller than the teams FSU will see this year. If their QB throws those loopy passes in the middle of the field, he’ll be greeted with a pick-six. I see why some should be worried, but wait until you see our defense line up opposite these guys. They’ll easily be 20-30 lbs bigger, and just as fast.
He won't get picked many times
If he throws loopy passes he will run out of WR to throw to as each one will be carried off on a stretcher by the end of the half
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Thank you sir for the visual.
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by numberonenole on Sep 2, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
their defense is sort of similar to the WVU defense that EJ faced in the Gator Bowl, right?
Hopefully that look won’t bother him too much. He looked solid against WVU.
Re: ULM being "underrated."
I still think – no matter how “good” ULM may be, FSU should be a lot better this year offensively and defensively. O-line being our only glaring weakness.
Thankfully EJ can run even when our O-line isn’t there to protect him. (I know I know, Trickett taught his guys to do that when a Defensive player is offsides.)
Do you think that will ever come back to bite Tricket.
I am not going to be happy when the line doesn’t block for a whole play and EJ gets hammered. And if EJ gets knocked out of the game and Clint comes in will Mrs. Tricket change that strategy?
THIS IS OUR TIME!
Re: The Trickett Stall
I think you’re right. Thankfully, if EJ’s ever in trouble like that, he can always throw the ball away.
I freaking hate that play.
Yes…I know it’s free yards, but sometimes it was so blatant that I wish we’d ave taken advantage of a free play every now and then.
But oh well. I ain’t coachin.
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Not a "play."
I freaking hate that play.
It is the byproduct of exceptional discipline. :-)
No football expert, but I just don’t see the increased risk to EJ resulting from the O-Line statuizing in the aftermath of an offsides. It’s not like EJ won’t be looking.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
I have made the same argument
that the risk of the QB getting hit with an open shot just isn’t worth it. And am always countered that the QB rolls out and is supposed to throw it away if a hit is coming. But I absolutely think is one coaching move i disagree with as you are all but giving up a free play and hoping your QB doesnt get smoked. If EJ gets hurt on a hit that happens on a play like that or any Nole QB in any year I would honestly forget every good thing Trickett has done in a second. But hes the coach and nothing bad has happened yet. So be it. Still hate it
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I prefer the discipline and running a free play.
Instead we just have the discipline. It’s beyond stupid. “I freaking hate that play,” too.
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You’re right.
I keep saying this
But our OL will not be a weakness. This is the best OT combo since the dynasty years (better than Barron and Willis) and we cannot expect to have above average injury bad luck like last year (have to model in average injury expectations in the preseason). OL will be overall better this year than last year and will be an elite run blocking team. This will be Tricketts best line since he’s been here.
by TuckNole on Sep 2, 2011 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hope you are right
Because I have been bathing in koolaid lately.
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I should say, not necessarily by the first game as they need snaps together, but I expect this OL to match up very well against OU’s DLby game 3.
by TuckNole on Sep 2, 2011 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bud, What did you mean?
“The receivers won’t have Ponder there to bail them out”. Do you mean with Ponders running? Because I think EJ is a better runner. Do you mean with his passing? Because you think that even with poor routes, he completed passes anyway. Do you mean with his decision making? Because you think he knew they would run the wrong route but knew which wrong route they would run.
THIS IS OUR TIME!
Before each play?
That sure is a lot of Stickum.
He could become this generations Peter North after his playing days are over.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
hahahahah
Yes Frank, please elaborate.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
That'll give a whole new meaning to fanshot.
FSU 45
ULM 14
by Jamil Dawson on Sep 2, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I would turn this plaid if I could.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
I'm sure a lot of families owe their existence to Peter North.
by FSUActuary on Sep 2, 2011 5:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dont you mean a lot of families
blame him for taking away brothers and sisters
"However, I say, let UM burn." -onebarrelrum
Ponder.
I think he means that Ponder could thread the needle better than most QB’s in the country. It showed in his camps too – he had some of the highest marks for accuracy. EJ is talented through the air, but as his numbers will show, his ball tends to land in the opposition’s hands more often than CP7’s did. Chalk it up to velocity and location of each QB’s throws. CP’s were very hard to pick off because they were always away from the defender, and closer to the opposite side of the receiver.
I meant with accuracy and throwing to the right guy. EJ needs to be able to trust these guys. Ponder couldn’t but made it work anyway.
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The one advantage EJ has there
is he can revert to sandlot ball better than Ponder could….if his receivers start acting like clowns.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 2, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and he will run out of bounds
Unlike Ponder did.
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Sandlot ball
Made me think of Maryland ’09.
That whole last drive, every play I was pleading with EJ to just tuck it and run, which he did to great effect.
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I think I actually heard EJ say
screw this, I’m gonna go win this damn game myself.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 2, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
And I liked it.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
LOL kinda like the infamous Peter Warrick quote…
“With FSU leading feisty VT 39-29 in the 2000 Sugar Bowl, Seminoles receiver Peter Warrick walked into the FSU huddle and asked his teammates, ’Ya’ll want me to finish them?’ And he did just that, catching a 43-yard touchdown while being interfered with and lifting the Seminoles to a 46-29 victory.”
by FSU on Sep 2, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Here we go............
Q: What’s your favorite pre-game ritual?
A: Well, I take a doodoo. Before every game I doodoo.
Florida's Ja'Juan Story in an actual interview.
One thing should be noted that will help EJ better in the college game. Ponder generally had to throw on time due to just above average arm strength. That means he often couldn’t wait to see if the WR went the right direction, and when he did wait, well we saw the results. EJ has a significantly stronger arm so he can get away with throwing late and still make it work. See Favre, Brett. Helps when learning to trust your receivers.
by TuckNole on Sep 2, 2011 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bud - Re: EJ
I think EJ might trust his receivers TOO much. If he airs it out like he did in the spring game, throwing those Flutie Floaters, he won’t see the ball come down in the receiver’s hands as much as he hopes for it to.
Jimbo puts an incredible amount of responsibility on the QB. We just need the receivers to execute their relatively simple tasks.
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Yes!
I have heard nothing but good things about the receiving corps stepping up this off-season, tremendously. Sadly – prognosticators and haters alike will say that EJ is a better passing QB than Ponder if it translates to improved stats this season offensively. I personally think Ponder did more with less than most any QB in the country. I just wish people could see that.
They’ll never see that because FSU is on the jersey and the receivers are assumed to be excellent.
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by Bud Elliott on Sep 2, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't think you will hear that from many of the regulars here
Everyone knows what Ponder did for the team. Bud has made sure of that.
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Used to bother me too when Ponder didn't get enough credit.
After he went 1st round, not so much. He got what he deserved, IMO
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Poor receiver play wasn't CP's only disadvantage
He never had a complete team around him, in any of his 3 years. EJ will have a complete team. That said, EJ has the potential to be better than Ponder before he’s done.
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by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 2, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Re: CP7 - Noisewater
I’m with you boss. It’s not a knock on EJ at all. He’s gonna be one of those names we’ll always remember. He’ll be one of the best we’ve ever had. I just think Ponder laid himself out for his team. Spirit, mind, and especially body. He killed himself for the team, mostly due to a shortage of playmakers around him. He was a winner on a team that was very unsure of itself. It was a matter of identity then. Not anymore. FSU is a team that knows it’s capabilities. Thankfully – EJ will be the beneficiary of that.
by fsutampaguy on Sep 2, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
In two years, when we have the great seasons we expect to, we need to remember that senior class and the 2010 season we had that gave us the momentum to get there
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EJ may turn out to be a better passing QB than Ponder.
He was just a sophomore last year. Let’s not be a hater of EJ either but a lover of all the Noles.
THIS IS OUR TIME!
Who is hating on EJ/?
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fsutampaguy was speaking of prognosticators and haters saying that EJ would be better than Ponder.
THIS IS OUR TIME!
Didn't say they were present...
…really no point in pointing that out, IMO.
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JBeau.
Misunderstanding. I see what you mean, but I was pointing out the haters and prognosticators of Ponder, not EJ. EJ is a stud. Pure and simple. But as a passer – Ponder was one of the most talented needle-threading QB’s I’ve ever seen at the college level. EJ could be a better passer, no doubt. I just think experts will always look at the success of Ponder and measure EJ on what Ponder did. Ponder did more….with less talent around him. I think EJ will surpass Ponder statistically, but he will have some talent around him to make that a reality. I love EJ. I’ve been drooling over this kid for years, trust me.
I can definitely agree with most of that.
However, he will start out throwing to the same guys that Ponder threw to. Are you saying those guys will be more talented this year or do you think the younger more talented guys will get more opportunities. Or the whole team is more talented with an improved OL.
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JBeau.
I think the chemistry and attitude have changed the leadership this year everywhere – especially at receiver. No longer are we looking to guys on the receiving corps and saying “who will step up?” They all were saying this to each other. It was a morale issue, and there was zero accountability. Now – the same guys CP threw to, are buying into the new attitude….rather than throwing chairs at people at Oglesby.
Ponder was terrible.
He like, single handedly cost us the title in 09 with his terrible passes.
So that chaos doesn't ensue, I'll answer for him...
Yes, he’s completely serious. Ponder’s worst year was ’09
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The analysis seems to have reached a new plateau here and I only pop in for sarcastic remarks
As CornNole alluded, I was just channeling the doofus at the 49er’s who thought Ponder’s play (which wasn’t bad at all?) in the 09 Miami opener was the first domino to fall which cost us the shot at a national title. So many things wrong with that sentiment, I figure it has long lasting mock value.
Anyway, I was never actually of the mindset that Ponder had elite level accuracy. I thought he was above average in that area but it seemed his decision-making skills and timing set him over the top.
Someone's been reading that idiot over at the 49ers blog again, no?
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I trolled them last week http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/8/27/2388782/49ers-vs-texans-so-about-the-second-string-vs-first-string-idea#75749826
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Nice job
Drew Kerr..expert on nothing.
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God he's an idiot
His analysis: It doesn’t matter what anyone else says. My subjective opinion is clearly better!
Too funny.
I dont go over to your site and troll, you really need to respect
our site when you come over here.
Check out my site!!
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by Drew Kerr on Aug 27, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
he did…
He came over here asking about Kaepernick. There was nothing trolling about his initial comment. It got heated between you and him but otherwise he’s been fine.
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by David Fucillo on Aug 27, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he started name dropping
Primarily with my name.
Check out my site!!
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by Drew Kerr on Aug 27, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
WAAAAA. WAAAA. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. He used my name.
I can see him pouting and crying in a corner with his lip quivering like the little pussy he is, because his editor just smacked him down in front of everyone and sided with Bud.
So then I go and check out his site and found this all the way at the bottom:
Contact Info – Drew Kerr – Cheif-in-Editor
I guess that is West Coast for Editor-in-Chief.
What a dumbfuch.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
Please, no discussion of the 49ers on TN
Believe me, I’m a 49er fan, and every week for 17 weeks a year I feel like I am watching that Wake game in the November Rain, and this crap has been ongoing for 10 years!
by GoNoles2011 on Sep 2, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that guy is the worst
he is like craig james of the sb network
"However, I say, let UM burn." -onebarrelrum
Curious if anyone knows...
But if you could project out EJ’s stats over an entire year, what would they look like compared to Ponder’s sophmore performance?
If I tried to do this I would probably end up with the chemical composition for glucose. Math was never my strongpoint. (btw c6h12o6)
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It's melancholy to see you use such self-deprecating humor to make your point.
But then to actually attempt it and come up with what looks to be the chemical composition of glucose is just downright heart-breaking. There are people here who can help you.
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Tough call
EJ played against some pretty good defenses. Clemson, USCe, VT. It would be hard to extrapolate to include teams like Wake, Virginia, etc.
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Naaaaah.
Just take “about” what you think he’d do, and extrapolate it. 14 games, IMO, is a large enough sample size in which performances against good D’s will balance out the bad, and vice versa.
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Didn't somone come up with a QB stat around here
that accounted for opposing D etc?
by Nolesos Locos on Sep 2, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
EJ's Stats vs. CP7's.
YEAR 2008 2010 2010* (Projected)
TEAM FSU FSU FSU
CMP 177 65 130*
ATT 318 93 186*
PCT 55.7 69.9 69.9*
YDS 2006 861 1722*
AVG 6.3 9.26 9.26*
TD 14 4 8*
LNG 54 53 53*
INT 13 4 8*
RAT 115 153.3 153.3*
Games 14 7 14*
Player Ponder EJ Manuel EJ (14 Games)*
...that did not come out very good.
Stats:
Ponder -
YEAR 2008
TEAM FSU
CMP 177
ATT 318
PCT 55.7
YDS 2006
AVG 6.3
TD 14
LNG 54
INT 13
RAT 115
Games 14
EJ – (7 games)
YEAR 2010
TEAM FSU
CMP 65
ATT 93
PCT 69.9
YDS 861
AVG 9.26
TD 4
LNG 53
INT 4
RAT 153.3
Games 7
EJ – 14 Games*
YEAR 2010* (Projected)
TEAM FSU
CMP 130*
ATT 186*
PCT 69.9*
YDS 1722*
AVG 9.26*
TD 8*
LNG 53*
INT 8*
RAT 153.3*
Games 14*
I did that on another website.
238-360
2, 630 YDS
14TD’s
10INT’s
77 CAR
502 YDS
6 TD
Captialize your formulas, son. That bush league.
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His grammar?
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by Nattylite on Sep 2, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I took basically what I thought would be an "average" game for EJ
extrapolated it out, and threw some BS in there.
For instance, I bet he gets more carries in the OU and Clemson games than the ULM/CS/Wake/Duke/UVA games combined.
I also think we won’t see much improvement on the TD/INT ratio. I hope I’m wrong, but playing a good slate of Ds w/ young recievers….I need to see it first.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Not so worried about the TD/INT ratio
I think it is important, but I don’t put that much emphasis on it. We’ll continue to run the ball heavily in the RZ and his passing TD numbers won’t go that high.
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I don't know why
the guys on the Seminoles writing staff think its going to be a much closer game. They may be right in some aspects, but I was under the impression that we would put up a lot more points. From what I have been hearing, the case may be, as you said Bud, that many people may be frustrated by the offense tomorrow. I REALLY hope that it isn’t the case, but if it is, people need to realize it isnt the end of the world.
With this being said, I really like our defense. Thinking of Reid Rhodes Harris and Joyner all on the field at the same time while Jenkins and Werner are on the ends is just downright scary. And with that being the case, I am hoping to see a lot of turnovers and therefore see the offense put up some extra points.
I think it’s because they didn’t know anything about Monroe’s defense. Take a look at the list I posted showing the defenses than which Monroe was better last year.
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I think
We have just becomed so used to the lost decade in FSU that we have come to expect teams like this to challenge us and we are scared to death of the let down.
Agree in theory.
Not team specific, but just for the letdown to come at some point. (also, kudo’s to the handle)
I think people are also just under the assumption
that game 1 of the season when you play a couple of cupcakes is a scrimmage. And it basically is. I think people are just under the assumption that ULM is a 1AA school and not a 1A. And are expecting what the score will prob look like in week to against CS which is a 1AA team. the average fan, hell, including me could not have told you off hand which of the 2 teams was a 1a or 1aa just by names of the first 2 teams we play. And I think people assume the absolute easiest game will be game 1, not game 2, which for us it is. People need to realize its still a 1A football team. Now come week 2 I want to see that 57-3 game. And I think people will be i end of world mode if it doesnt happen tomorrow just because they dont realize the easier of the 2 is the second game.
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wow really.
week to=week 2
Not even excusable on my part
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Caine.
I am 110% in agreement with you here. Most fans have no clue who ULM is, or which subdivision they hail from. To our credit, I think that ULM will have a very good year within the Sun Belt. If they happen to win the conference, this would be an added credit to the Seminoles in the computers – as they rate SOS based on W/L of opponents and then W/L of opponent’s opponents. If we catch a break, and ULM finishes something like 8-4 or 9-3, this will be distinctly to our advantage in the computers. Human pollsters will still think of ULM as some cupcake, but since it was in week one, nobody will hold it against us. :)
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by Nolesos Locos on Sep 2, 2011 2:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Free advice if you have season tickets and you're going to the game tomorrow:
Begin tearing off your Game 1 ticket at least 12 hours prior to entering the stadium. I attempted to detach mine last night, and I don’t know who perforated those things this year, but I’m not real thrilled about showing up to Doak tomorrow with Louisiana-Monroe, Charleston Southern, and half of Oklahoma.
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by TRMNole on Sep 2, 2011 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I can help!
There are these new inventions. They have 2 blades that are actually attached to one another by a pin that allows them to rotate in close proximity, allowing them to easily cut paper, cardbaord, wrapping paper, and many other things.
Hell, some even come with handles from what I hear.
Maybe look into that?
jk, btw
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by CornNole on Sep 2, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You know, this information could have helped me.
Though it frightens me to think what I might have done with such a device in my possession last night. (We’re talking about lawn shears, right?)
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I expect close-to-perfect WR routes
Their DBs will be at least 8 yards off the ball every snap.
Now will we run perfect routes…
What are you glorifying with your life?
I don't think so.
I’m trying to find the footage I watched on them a couple of days ago, but It was kinda late at night.
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Finally!
I’ve waited so long for this day to come. Got my brisket, pork lion, and box of chicken seasoned for tomorrow. I just need to pickup my keg of yuengling. Is there any truth to the rumor that first 48 gonna be at doak this season?
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Same boat with you....
All I have left to do is decide between Makers Mark and Jim Beam Black Label…..
He doesn't drink Whiskey
But if he did, he would drink George Dickel.
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Dude......
Dickel is bourbon. Your southerner card has been revoked.
Q: What’s your favorite pre-game ritual?
A: Well, I take a doodoo. Before every game I doodoo.
Florida's Ja'Juan Story in an actual interview.
Ahhh, learn something new everyday.
I just stick with beer and Tequila.
My friend raves about George Dickel all the time. Had no idea it wasn’t whiskey :)
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So it is. I'm just a bourbon geek.
Properly done bourbon is a quasi-religious experience. Sweet nectar of the gods. Proof that Jesus loves me.
I will have ample proof of Gods love tomorrow.
Q: What’s your favorite pre-game ritual?
A: Well, I take a doodoo. Before every game I doodoo.
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Booker's. Splash of water. No words.
Q: What’s your favorite pre-game ritual?
A: Well, I take a doodoo. Before every game I doodoo.
Florida's Ja'Juan Story in an actual interview.
a good ’ole fashioned?
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by Gulfport Nole on Sep 2, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Mexican drinks, food and women.
Lots of words. Don’t understand any. Mucho good times.
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ULM - 9
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 2, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo Trace
and a whiskey stone. Yes please.
http://www.luxist.com/media/2006/04/birthdaybourbon.jpg
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Mixing good bourbons? For shame, sir. Why not use some rotgut as your base!
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Blanton's. Only for those with discriminating taste.
Plus it will knock you on your ass.
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
It's very good. I usually stick with the 3 B's when I drink top shelf bourbons, like
Blanton’s,
Booker’s, and
Bakers-when I want something a little mellower (fruitier).
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
They've got that at Bullwinkle's.
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Correct, Sir Trick.
You truly are one of God's treasures, Trick
You’re right.
Elijah Craig is Truth
It is so fine that 2/3 of the cask is taken by the Angels Share.
by Blue Horseshoe on Sep 2, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
SB
I’ve got a bottle of Elijah Craig, and 4 Roses SB just waiting till something happens that it needs to be opened. Then a bottle of Eagle Rare for sipping and a bottle of makers for mixing…Yea I like bourbon but I try to keep it on a students budget.
I got a bottle of the 4R SB for my GF and she didn’t drink much of it. Not much bite, but an interesting bottle.
Gotta try that 2009 Old Forester Birthday. Like $29. Green label.
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I just like 4R because its
so smooth. Dont always find 100proof that has so little bite. If I could only drink one midpriced bottle the rest of my life… If would be Eagle Rare, but I;ll try to find That Old Forester Birthday and give it a try.
Think you just gave me the victory drink for the season
The lady and I like to pour a couple glasses and reflect after each FSU W. I’ll have to give OFB a shot this year.
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by Sir Lawrence J on Sep 3, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Wild Turkey...That is for getting your "Drunk on"
That stuff is like a crazy drug…….my wife wont even let me get near it at football games anymore.
by Blue Horseshoe on Sep 3, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Tennessee Whiskey
You’re both correct. Dickel is considered Tennessee Whiskey (as is Jack) which is a type of Bourbon.
You are wrong my friend
Tennessee Wiskey is NOT a type of Bourbon. Bourbon is unfiltered/unrefind straight from the barrell nothing esle added but water to dillute to the right proof. Jack IS NOT a bourbon.
It's a bourbon-style whiskey
People get FAR too up-in-arms over this inane stuff.
Here, I have an assignment. Order a bottle of Stranahan’s Colorado Whiskey and learn just how much fun you can have when you color outside the lines of the old, tired categories.
Aw, Jesus.
Forget the Southern card. All of you are fired or something for drinking that piss.
Do you all walk upright? Get some Scotch for God’s sake. Bourbon’s for knuckle-dragging country singers whining about some damned girls taking their dogs and pickups.
That said, I’ll be drinking beer. :)
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Scotch is gross
I’m loving the Van Winkle “Lot B” it’s fantastic if you can find a bottle my local bourbon bar has it but they only make so much of it and limit how much you can buy.
The Funk Phenomenon.
Check it out
I found a review.
http://www.bourbonenthusiast.com/forum/DBvd.php?id=109&task=displaybottling
I’m far from an expert but it’s really nice and not too too expensive.
The Funk Phenomenon.
I think I've been drinking the 12 year.
alas my bar is out I think till next year.
The Funk Phenomenon.
Better review I think
http://www.drinkswithnathan.com/2010/03/11/van-winkle-12-year-lot-b-bourbon/
Might try to find a bottle for tonight. Got a party to attend.
The Funk Phenomenon.
Dickel is a whiskey, along with Jack.
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Tennessee whiskey, yes.
But it’s not very strictly-defined. Tennessee whiskeys can be bourbons, although proper bourbon should be from Kentuckistan.
It’s not like the EU with Champagne.
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- Jimbo Fisher
For starters, Tennessee whisky is not a bourbon. By federal regulation, it is a separate whisky category that differs primarily in the extra steps taken immediately after distilling, such as charcoal mellowing. At that time in the distillation process, the whisky is seeped very slowly through vats packed with charcoal. There are only a couple of Tennessee whiskies. Both use aged, hard sugar maple trees to make their own charcoal, but George Dickel still fires its charcoal the old-fashioned way: in the open air.
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Yes.
What I mean is bourbon has no geographic requirement, as I think champagne does under EU agreement.
And Tennessee whiskey is defined as bourbon under NAFTA (Article 313). I’m not sure if there is a definition under the federal regulatory code.
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assault of thought on the unthinking."
- John Maynard Keynes
"We'll be here 'til midnight. We ain't not gonna practice."
- Jimbo Fisher
The only geographic requirement is has is that it must be made and aged in the US.
As for Tennessee whiskey, what makes them a “Tennessee” whiskey is exactly what keeps it from being called bourbon…. The one thing I may know more about than anyone on this board! I usually feel in awe of peoples knowledge but being as my family has been making bourbon for nearly 50 years and we own a distillery….
"Expectations are high and you can't run from expectations. It's how you deal with them, expectations don't win games. Just like talent. Talent is what you're capable of; attitude determines how well you do it... Lay the foundation, work hard every day, control what we can control...If we're ready to play, then the expectations will come true." -Jimbo Fisher
by floundringaround on Sep 2, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Lincoln County Process for those wondering...
"Expectations are high and you can't run from expectations. It's how you deal with them, expectations don't win games. Just like talent. Talent is what you're capable of; attitude determines how well you do it... Lay the foundation, work hard every day, control what we can control...If we're ready to play, then the expectations will come true." -Jimbo Fisher
by floundringaround on Sep 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This is what we make now. My grandfather developed Woodford Reserve. Hes onboard with this project now.
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by floundringaround on Sep 2, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well site wouldn't link.... dang
angelsenvy.com
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by floundringaround on Sep 2, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll trade you some books.
Also, you need to advertise.
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We're getting ready to start getting ads out
Our new product has only been on the shelves for 6 months and has done tremendously. Which books are you talking about? Ive got tons!
"Expectations are high and you can't run from expectations. It's how you deal with them, expectations don't win games. Just like talent. Talent is what you're capable of; attitude determines how well you do it... Lay the foundation, work hard every day, control what we can control...If we're ready to play, then the expectations will come true." -Jimbo Fisher
by floundringaround on Sep 2, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Already got it!
Had it second week it was out…. Great work BTW
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by floundringaround on Sep 2, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, I’m out of trading material. I appreciate the compliment. Next year’s will be even better as we will have much longer to produce it.
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Looking forward to it!
I rely in this site for everything since I moved up to Louisville. I miss Tally quite a bit…
"Expectations are high and you can't run from expectations. It's how you deal with them, expectations don't win games. Just like talent. Talent is what you're capable of; attitude determines how well you do it... Lay the foundation, work hard every day, control what we can control...If we're ready to play, then the expectations will come true." -Jimbo Fisher
by floundringaround on Sep 3, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Have sales been better than expected?
Its always nice to surpass expectations, and Im sure this community was happy to help.
"However, I say, let UM burn." -onebarrelrum
Please do!
on the side let me know what you think
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by floundringaround on Sep 2, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Distributing in Florida?
Can’t get half the stuff I like to drink in Pensacola these days due to distribution idiocies. I’m not a huge bourbon drinker (prefer Scotch generally) but I do enjoy experimentation, and a good friend is a bourbon connoisseur. I’ll pick up a bottle if I can find it.
Yes
Just about all the ABC stores have it. Bar wise I don’t know because it changes often, but I do know the University Club carries it!
"Expectations are high and you can't run from expectations. It's how you deal with them, expectations don't win games. Just like talent. Talent is what you're capable of; attitude determines how well you do it... Lay the foundation, work hard every day, control what we can control...If we're ready to play, then the expectations will come true." -Jimbo Fisher
by floundringaround on Sep 3, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Then I'll definitely check next time I'm in Tally
and I’ll ask the guys at Ritchie’s and Fusion if they can get it over here.
Thank you. You do God's work.
Q: What’s your favorite pre-game ritual?
A: Well, I take a doodoo. Before every game I doodoo.
Florida's Ja'Juan Story in an actual interview.
Stop looking at me with that Smug Stare.....
24 Hrs till kickoff……….It’s like Chirstmas Eve
Johnny Walker is a friggin ripoff.
Oh, let’s chuck some of this barrel’s contents into this one, and see what comes out. Then we’ll overprice it and sell it to people.
No thanks.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Then again, Blue Label might be a single malt
But I don’t drink the stuff. I’d rather spend my money on electricity and stuff.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
Whiskey.
Had a bad experience, literally woke up bruised, bloodied and shirtless on my front lawn, in college (FSU of course.) I will never again drink any type of whiskey. I’ll stick to Gin, Rum, Tequila, or Vodka. No whiskey/bourbon for me.
You whaaa......
Oh, shirtless. Carry on.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
But
I dont drink it on the regular. I’m more of a congac type, preferably white hennessy.
by SUPER_NOLED on Sep 2, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Blue label is still blended
but it is absolutely worth the money. I dislike blended Scotch in general but Blue Label is an outstanding whisky, as are the longer aged expressions of Chivas Regal (though not quite as worthy of the cost).
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I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Sep 3, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now I have to link this
Captain Planet is an angry mo fugga
Why is it every time I get 3 stars of police notoriety on GTA IV, Al Golden calls me asking for my commitment?
by Sir Lawrence J on Sep 3, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on the single malts
I’m partial to Glen Livet as well.
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-H.L. Mencken
Now you're talking
Lagavulin or Laphroiag…ahhhhhh
"Your liver pays dearly now for youthful magic moments...so rock on completely with some brand new components"
I found this humorous :)
and this is your chance to see them in action before the medical redshirts are handed out after game two.
Excuse my ignorance,
but does this mean that after week 2 some freshmen who are not expected to contribute this season will get “injured” and be redshirted?
"Process-oriented thinking as opposed to outcome-oriented thinking."- CJF
yes, but it's actually the first 3 games.. I think
But most likely no true freshman that’s receiving a medical redshirt will be playing against OU….or it’s a blowout one way or another.
Hence, take FULL advantage while you can.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Uncanny how all those freshmen get hurt week 2.
Defies logic.
Q: What’s your favorite pre-game ritual?
A: Well, I take a doodoo. Before every game I doodoo.
Florida's Ja'Juan Story in an actual interview.
Medical Redshirts = the NCAA's version of sending players down to the Minors.
Baseball fans get what I’m saying I hope.
OHHH JW JR.
Got it. Yeah, I’m sure we’ll see him in some garbage action.
I hope we can redshirt Coker at QB personally. Although something tells me he’ll play late in both of our tune-up games.
TOS is running a story on painting the logo on the field at Doak.
Times must be tough.
I can tell you guys from experience, because I used to do it, there is NOTHING chivalrous about painting that damn field.
It’s hot, there is no shade, and regardless of how active your imagination might be, the cheerleaders are NOT out there practicing while you are working.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
"Gettin chills in my body time to go to war"
Brandon Jenkins Tweet
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Oh, look who's all of the sudden a twitter expert.
FSU - 41
ULM - 9
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 2, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Read somewhere that a D-lineman for WESTERN CAROLINA...
was telling Jeff Godfrey (UCF) to watch his neck. Western Carolina?
Craig Yarborough?
FSU - 41
ULM - 9
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 2, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
don't think so
WCU played their sacrificial game against GT last night.
Redshirts
If ever there was something that illustrated just how infrequently Jimbo uses these now, it’s that depth chart. Only 4 across the entire 2/3 deep and 2 are for sure based off injury (not sure if Nigel T was able to swing this as a reason or not).
The youngsters are gonna come and they’re gonna get time early.
As this season begins we should all stop and give a moment of thanks to Jim Grobe
for the 30-0 ass kicking he laid down that fateful night that ultimately brought us to this glorious moment.
We'll be sure to thank Grobe and Wake all in due time
and that time becomes due October 8, 2011.
Yards-Per-Play Projection (Pre-Garbage)
You give ULM 4.0 YPP. That doesn’t appear too optimistic, reference our D, for a pre-garbage calculation. Especially if you give us 99 percent to win. Do you see steady short yardage gains, or a few big blown plays to average things out?
The softer, gentler, "I am at work" version of DutchFSU.
Off topic but Robert Griffin is nasty.
by fsunole23 on Sep 2, 2011 9:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Frightening speed. Think about if he was at say.. Oregon how frightening he’d be.
by FSU on Sep 2, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
I wonder how he ended up at Baylor? I’m guessing most teams wanted him as a WR or something.
by fsunole23 on Sep 2, 2011 9:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was actually heavily recruited. He’s also one the fastest guys in CFB NCAA (track guy) & very very bright as well. He hasn’t been a household name since his freshman year because of injuries. But put him in Oregon or Auburn system and yikes.
by FSU on Sep 2, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Something tells me TCU
will not have an elite defense this year.
FSU - 41
ULM - 9
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 2, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Me thinks you might be right...
FSU Football, making bad teams look bad since 2010.
by onebarrelrum on Sep 3, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Won't be able to watch
What station can I get on tune in radio to listen atleast?
by Airboat Nole 220 on Sep 2, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
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