Noles News 09.20.11

TALLAHASSEE, FL - SEPTEMBER 17: Vince Williams #11 of the Florida State Seminoles makes a tackle with Nigel Bradham #13 on a third down stop against Dominique Whaley #8 of the Oklahoma Sooners at Doak Campbell Stadium on September 17, 2011 in Tallahassee, Florida. (Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

Florida State returned to the the practice fields and a lot of guys missed practice. Jimbo Fisher said Willie Haulstead will not play this week. At this point I doubt there is a timetable for his return. Jarred Haggins will be out for a while with a broken hand. Kenny Shaw didn't practice, and there is a very slim chance he can practice this week. I am not expecting that, but he isn't showing the concussion symptoms you might expect. Bert Reed is also uncertain to go. FSU's receiving corps currently looks like this: Rodney Smith, Greg Dent, Christian Green, Rashad Greene. That's it. 

E.J. Manuel had an MRI and it didn't show anything unexpected, according to Jimbo. Obviously, EJ didn't practice. Apparently there is some chance they can shoot him up and go, but I am not particularly optimistic. No matter which QB plays, FSU is going to have to rely on its defense to win the game and ask its offense not to lose the game. 

We'll have the film review for you after a bit, and later this afternoon will have an article on the excellent crowd that stayed loud all game.

In the Treatment Room: Florida State's Christian Ponder Separates Shoulder in Loss to Clemson Tigers - Tomahawk Nation
An excellent look at shoulder sprains and separations from our resident MD. This was authored about Ponder's injury, but applies here. TC's thoughts:

EJ should be able to play with a sprain. You can think of a sprain as a stretching of the ligaments around the joint. Dislocated, usually results in a bigger injury. Hopefully the rotator cuff is intact. Clearly, it's better that it is his non-throwing shoulder. However, those muscles are used to stablilize the chest during the throwing motion. Think about the force that is generated in throwing a footbal at the velocity that he does and the distance. Granted a lot comes from the hips, but you must have a stable chest to throw the ball like that. It will hurt. Plus, it will hurt every time he gets hit. Speaking from experience, as I separated my shoulder a few times in a game, it is not fun. Plus, the braces really limit your shoulder mobility. If its minor, a little cortisone and lidocaine will get him through the game.

The key here, of course, is trusting the injury info released by FSU. Let's just say that it's not always the best. Not that we'd expect Jimbo to tell FSU's opponents who is and is not playing.

How the Odds Stack Up--Florida State @ Clemson - Shakin The Southland
An analysis of the gambling trends for FSU and Clemson.

Notre Dame should jump to the ACC ... and fast - College Football - Rivals.com
With superconferences gaining steam, the Irish would be wise to align with a league with more upside than the often-discussed Big Ten. 

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