Florida State Seminoles Preview: Charleston Southern
by Bud Elliott on Sep 9, 2011 10:50 AM EDT
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This week the Florida State Seminoles take on the Charleston Southern Buccaneers. You might have noticed a distinct lack of CSU coverage this week. There's a reason for that. It is hard to imagine Charleston Southern entering this game with much confidence, as the club was dismantled by UCF on opening weekend by a 62-0 score. The Buccaneers aren't just a D1-AA team. They are a very, very bad 1-aa team. This is what the 'Noles need in preparation for next week's showdown with Oklahoma. The Sooners have a bye week. The 'Noles don't, but this is the next closest thing.
Time: 6 pm
TV: ESPN3.com
Line: None yet
Injury Report
Out
OG Henry Orelus (concussion)
WR [starter] Willie Haulstead (concussion)
WR Josh Gehres (knee )
LB Holmes Onwukaife (shoulder)
OL Tre' Jackson (knee)
Questionable
DT [starter] Anthony McCloud (knee)
SS [co-starter] Nick Moody (quad)
| Charleston Southern Offense | |
| LT | 73 Levi McFatter 6-4 291 R-Sr. |
| LG | 60 Nick Kemper 6-2 268 R-Jr. |
| C | 56 Jeff Hartung 6-3 280 So. |
| RG | 78 B.J. Baker 6-5 290 R-Sr. |
| RT | 70 James Nicholson 6-4 295 R-Jr. |
| TE | 83 Carson Leshin 6-3 250 Jr. |
| TE | 86 Henly Griffon 6-4 218 R-Fr. |
| QB | 15 Malcolm Dixon 6-1 180 So. |
| RB | 23 B.J. Hackworth 6-0 240 R-Sr. |
| WR | 88 Kirby Broome 6-2 200 So. |
| WR | 32 Mike Davis 5-9 195 Jr. |
| WR | 7 Estevan Cintron 5-9 160 R-Fr. |
Charleston Southern finished the game last week with a meager total of 119 total yards on 51 offensive plays and were 4-of-15 on third down conversion attempts. Furthermore, they committed a pair of turnovers, and those mistakes obviously didn't help the cause.
Malcolm Dixon saw most of the action at quarterback for Charleston Southern and did little to excite his supporters. Dixon completed a mere 6-of-15 passes for 50 yards, and with the exception of a 21-yard completion, most of the connections went for minor gains. Richard Mounce completed all three passes that he attempted, but considering the fact that he finished with just 20 passing yards, he wasn't much more impressive than Dixon.
Don't look for an enormous number of sacks, as Charleston Southern will look to get rid of the ball very quickly. UCF managed only one sack against CSU, and UCF can rush the passer a good bit. Plus, this offensive line does return four of five starters. That said, these receivers are new, so don't rule out communication issues.
But let's be honest, this is an awful team. Quite literally, FSU's walk-ons could beat Charleston Southern, provided of course they were able to practice as a team.
I'm intrigued to see this 240-pound running back. Typically big guys are momentum runners, in that they need a lot of time to build up speed. If Florida State's defensive line wrecks this offensive line like should be expected, it could be a long day for B.J. Hackworth.
| Charleston Southern Defense | ||||
| DE | 96 Will Hunt | 6-4 | 240 | R-So. |
| NG | 48 Matt Woods | 6-3 | 260 | R-Sr. |
| NG | 72 Coril Joseph | 6-1 | 300 | R-So. |
| DE | 51 Tanner Rogers | 6-2 | 240 | Fr. |
| MLB | 52 Gabe Middlebrook | 6-1 | 220 | So. |
| WLB | 47 Brandan Davis | 5-11 | 174 | Sr. |
| WOLF | 36 Brad Sweatt | 6-1 | 107 | Jr. |
| BNDT | 24 Chris Kuzdale | 5-11 | 200 | Sr. |
| SPUR | 17 Matt Hardy | 5-11 | 175 | So. |
| CB | 1 Charles James | 5-10 | 175 | R-Jr. |
| CB | 35 Ray Rowe | 5-11 | 155 | Fr. |
| FS | 5 Demaris Freeman | 6-1 | 178 | So. |
| CB | 2 O’Brian Campbell | 5-10 | 205 | Sr. |
| CB | 29 Marquiz Hodo | 6-0 | 170 | Fr. |
The Charleston Southern defense was completely overmatched by the offense of UCF last week, as the Knights were able to rack up a staggering total of 560 yards. CSU got pushed around all afternoon, yielding 316 rushing yards at a clip of 6.6 ypc. Against the pass, the Bucs permitted 17.4 yards per completion, proof that they were completely helpless against both means of attack.
As discussed by Rico in yesterday's piece, the Bucs runs a 3-3-5 defense. This will probably be different than the 3-3-5 FSU saw last week with Louisiana Monroe, in that the Bucs are expected to be much less aggressive. This could mean fewer big plays for the offense, and drives consisting of a series like "10, 12, 5, 7, 20, 6 TD."
"Our youth and lack of maturity showed up," said Bucs' head coach Jay Mills. "We played hard; we just made a lot of errors. We'll become a good football team and how soon that occurs, is up to us. We played obviously an outstanding football team that I really believe is a top-20 caliber team. At the same time, we did not play close to our potential. This was one of 11 tests we have, but it wasn't a final exam, we have 10 more tests to go and we are going to handle those in a mature way."
What to Watch
- Somewhat like last week, this week is all about FSU and not about the opponent. Expect the starters to be pulled quickly and to see a lot of reserves. Look for sharpness and execution, not simply physical domination.
- With Haulstead's concussion symptoms flaring up yesterday morning, he is out. I'll be watching Jarred Haggins, Greg Dent and Kenny Shaw as they battle to claim his spot. Haggins is the clear leader, but the other two can play as well. This is important if Haulstead misses the Oklahoma game.
- This is an excellent opportunity to see the young members of the highly-rated 2010 and 2011 recruiting classes. This will be the last time to see some of these guys before the, um, injuries occur to earn the medical hardship redshirt.
- This game is exactly what FSU needs before Oklahoma: a game with zero chance of loss. Last week the 'Noles played the starters a lot. This week, they'll play just enough.
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No idea on either. I imagine Jackson will RS
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Same Knee
as in high school? wasn’t Jackson the one missed all junior year with knee injury.
Nope, think he's right about Jackson.
Committed to GT because he was afraid programs were scared of knee, IIRC.
It's both of them
I believe. Was just wondering if it’s Tre’s same knee, which wouldn’t be good.
Primary school defense
by the looks of their size, good god man… look at all the 150’s and 170lb players…
If so I still scoff at that number... shoot I could play LB for them if that's the case.
Though I don’t think I want Lonnie knocking the ish outta me. So i’ll take that back.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
ss/lb hybrid whatever it is.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Pretty good size for a Wolf.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Finally someone who cant push
CT around.
"It's the Big 12. It ain't intramurals".- Dan Hawkins
Reported that Tuesday. Not injured.
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Aren’t you worried they will take advantage of Reid being out? Can we count on XR27 to be ready for this big game. He might get a lot of balls thrown his way. Seriously.
why we have 3 NFL CB with reid
Without him we would have 2
everyone should have a pet Honey Badger named "Stanley".
problem solved problem staying solved. Rangers Lead The Way
Based on their depth chart, this could be a great test for our offense!
I could 14 starters for CSU. And bad as they may be, if they are allowed to play 14 at one time, I think we have a tough time moving the ball consistently. That would really play hell with blocking schemes!
Over/under
10 combined sacks and interceptions?
2.5 sacks for BJenks
2.5 passing TD for EJ (3 would be a career high)
"But they understand expectations don’t win games. And just because you’re picked to win, they don’t give you the trophy when the season starts. And we tell our kids that we have to form great habits and have great work ethic and form our identity as a team. We just have to reinforce that everyday because as we tell them, the pressure of expectations is only there if we aren’t prepared for them. If we prepared for them and we’re prepared mentally and physically, the pressure of the expectation won’t bother us." - Jimbo Fisher
by Sem1nole on Sep 9, 2011 11:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Really hope we get sacks, no matter how fast
they try to throw the ball. And some picks too.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Sep 9, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Did Jacory Transfer?
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
it's so easy now.....
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Under all around
10 combined sacks and interceptions is tough in a video game.
I don’t think Jenkins will get the snaps to get 2.5, but that’s plausible.
Ditto for EJ.
by Nolesos Locos on Sep 9, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
LT 73 Levi McFatter 6-4 291 R-Sr.
Growing up had to be rough….lol
FEAR THE SPEAR!!!!!!!!!
"Winning when playing poorly is the kiss of death." - Nick Saban
by goatnole76 on Sep 9, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Stop trying to church it up BOY!
FSU, home of the Bandit! Enough said!
by cmk07c on Sep 9, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Here is a Prediction of the Key offensive stat for the game
It is not our third down coversion percentage – but the total number of third down we have
If the O is playing well on Sat – we should have less than 8 total third downs
Oh, sure.
Just hand over all requests to the nerdery.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I just want to see Freeman get some carries.....
and let Thompson rest so he can be as near 100% as possible in the OU game. this is very much a buy week without actually being one. I do agree this could still help the O line with cohesion. Here’s to no injury’s my friends!
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
FS 5 Demaris Freeman 6-1 178 So.
We may get to see a clash of the D. Free’s. I’m thinking ours comes out on top.
by TerdFerguson on Sep 9, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
This was the scene at the Offense Film Meeting earlier this week:
by coonhound on Sep 9, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
That's an actual photo from Chuck South's game against UCF.
The Knights….get it?
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Resident Chuck language.
You got Chucktown, North Chuck, Chuck Tech (C of C), and Chuck South. Also, Scummerville and Skunk’s Corner.
Now you’re ready to move to Chuck and fit right in.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They are Charleston Southern. Not CSU, Not Charleston SU ...
not C Southern, not CS University, not CSI Charleston, not Chucky McSouthtown, not Charlie Sheen U, not Charles in Charge, not CTC Shades U, not Chuckles the Clown …
by ScalpEM_TX on Sep 9, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Just a little Low Country humor.
Sorry to offend you, TX.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this was a play on last weeks ULM, i.e
The University of Lousiana at Monroe. Not Lousiana Monroe.
One of the rare instances where DKN misses the joke.
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by FSUvaFan on Sep 9, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh, my mistake then. Sorry guys.
I missed those conversations. Oops.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL..... pesky 3-3-5.
thing about this D is if you beat it on the edge there is alot of green grass to be had… I think this has alot to do with how many bubble screens we threw last week. But you have to be able to have WRs that can make guys miss. Most of the time they will be in Cover 3 with the middle safety and 2 CBs… If our WRs can’t break some of these guys we are in trouble in the future.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
yeah, all about the process.
Ej will throw a pic too just to see how the defense responds.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Krug will trip him before that can happen..
his ankles are too elite.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
I heard France upped their terror thread level
from run away to hide. That’s pretty bad, the only higher levels are surrender and collaborate.
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by GregJones on Sep 9, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Watch out for
Wolfbacker Brad Sweatt. There is a full moon this weekend.
Glad there is no home and home.
"It's the Big 12. It ain't intramurals".- Dan Hawkins
Geez, Bud. Laying on the insults pretty thick.
It’s not like they’re Miami.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
you're right...
these guys have their own stadium.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
by YouNoleIt on Sep 9, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 16 recs
Zing return.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I am learning from the best...
we seem to have a few comedians around here…. only one who gets paid for it but comedians none the less.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
How many seats is on the visiting team side?
I’ve seen high school stadiums that are larger than this one!
It's all about the process
My middle school feild was bigger and better than this!
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Tommy Oliver Stadium In Panama City for one
everyone should have a pet Honey Badger named "Stanley".
problem solved problem staying solved. Rangers Lead The Way
Tommy Oliver is a pretty good size stadium for high school.
But with 3(right or is it 4?) different schools using it it needs to be pretty big.
by Noleforever9399 on Sep 9, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
They don't all use Tommy Oliver Stadium at the same time!
Plus, the stadium has been it’s current size (8,400 capacity) since the early 1960s.
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Just to rec this. Fantastic
by Harry J. Anslinger on Sep 9, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Yes thank you,
may be my first green post too!
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
...
"Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assault of thought on the unthinking."
- John Maynard Keynes
"We'll be here 'til midnight. We ain't not gonna practice."
- Jimbo Fisher
by Drew J Jones on Sep 9, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
and though I don't like our guys being injured....
our O-line having all these concussions is a good sign or D-line are bringing it in practice.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
This should have been a home and home
I need to visit that stadium.
Is that stadium even 100 yrds long?
This has to be arena football… please tell me the Hurricane just knocked donw the walls.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
its like the dunk hoop
At jr high that is only 8 feet. Just reduce their stats by 20%.
"It's the Big 12. It ain't intramurals".- Dan Hawkins
This is the stadium I chose for a dynasty in NCAA 2010
Oh, the travails of The Fightin’ Hats of Les Miles College.
What are you glorifying with your life?
by ricobert1 on Sep 9, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sod Cemetary Candidate?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
The sod that is already in the sod cemetary could probably cover that field.
Since they are just looking to play the big boys for money, maybe we can rent the space for our soon to be much larger Sod cemetary.
I didnt get a harrumph out of that guy!
No......because the grass has all been eaten.
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by TBfisherman on Sep 9, 2011 11:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wooohooooo!!
Football!!! I don’t care who we play…WE PLAY!!!
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by freshcollegeboy on Sep 9, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
The Buccaneers aren’t just a D1-AA team. They are a very, very bad 1-aa team.
So bad, they’re de-capitalized.
What are you glorifying with your life?
by ricobert1 on Sep 9, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
2 things concern me about this game
A. If we can’t beat CSU by more than UCF, that means UCF is better than us according to Rico’s transitive property and UCF would get thrashed by OU next week.
2. BJ Hackworth – is that even a real name?
You tell em I'm coming, and Hell's comin with me!!!!
by DownByTheRiverWalkinOnWater on Sep 9, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
D. Nice dog.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Thanks.
too bad he’s a 2 yr old, 100lb idiot now – doesn’t have quite the same affect on the ladies
You tell em I'm coming, and Hell's comin with me!!!!
by DownByTheRiverWalkinOnWater on Sep 9, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to divorce my self from the use of transitive property
yet insist NC State still sucks.
What are you glorifying with your life?
The team??
Or the State itself?
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
Hold out Haulstead for Clemson
We need that game, especially for his monster run blocking
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by The Ryno and I Know on Sep 9, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
Levi Mcfatter, B.J. Baker, B.J. Hackworth, Brad Sweatt, Malcom Dixon....
Is this a foofball team or a porn casting call?
by buckeyeNOLE on Sep 9, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Am I the only one whose really worried about Mose?
He’s faster than he looks.
by ScalpEM_TX on Sep 9, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
alright off to lunch fellas...
Might be back later if not I’ll be on during the game… touch down in the Carolina’s tonight. Have to hit up Carolina Ale House for my coming home get together.
"The worst kind of non-smokers are the ones that come up to you and cough. That's pretty f*^@ing cruel isn't it? Do you go up to cripples and dance too?"
- Bill Hicks (another dead hero)
this may be a dumb question but...
what’s the deal with christian green? did he even play last week? is he playing this week? this season? whats goin on? haha
Drinkin' the Jimbo Kool-Aid
Yes he played
For those wondering who played last week here is a list: http://web1.ncaa.org/football/exec/roster?year=2011&org=234
Some think we wont see him break out until the 2013 season. He is already getting passed on the depth chart. Some guys just don’t pan out and Green could fall in that category. I wouldn’t call him a “bust” yet, but if he doesn’t see playing time after this season I think it would be fair to at-least start to consider him. I was never as high on him as some. He doesn’t have the elite speed that a lot of people think he does(ran a PB of 11.33 100 meters) and dominated against lower competition.
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Impossible.
Urban Meyer recruited him, and we all know Urban Meyer wanted the fastest team in college football.
That was pre-heart conditioned Urban.
Things got a little too fast and stressful for him so he had to take a step or two back. The faster kids started causing him issues in practice so he went after a little slower ones.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
It will be interesting to see what True Freshman play
I think the FSU staff will redshirt who ever hasn’t seen time in the first two games. I never thought I would say this a few months ago, but James Wilder Jr could be a candidate. I thought he would at least get time on special teams.
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JWJ, really?
That would be interesting and would bring the LB talk to full volume.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
A couple of months ago would anyone have said true freshman OL Austin Barron(played against ULM) would getting playing time before 5 star RB James Wilder? Crazy
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This weekend will be telling for sure.
If he doesn’t get any snaps, in this game most of all, then I think the coaches must be in his ear or trying to send him a message about moving positions or having to redshirt if he wants to see time at RB. Still honestly want him to have a shot at RB but if it takes a year, I’m ok with that too.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
Think the staff has sufficiently fulfilled the understood promise?
Have they let him try RB and he just could not overcome the depth?
Just hoping this isn’t about needing him at LB more now than when they were recruiting him.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Possible but no idea.
Not really sure how they could have given him a fair shot at RB in one fall practice a week of the season. No idea even if they have said he needs to move to LB, again, hope he gets a fair shot at it. We lose two tailbacks next season, should be plenty of carries for him next year, well maybe.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
If they want to focus on the running game, here's an idea:
Gran: “So James, if you want in the rotation we expect 200 yards rushing versus Charleston Southern. Go get ’em.”
Wilder: “What happens if I don’t quite make 200?”
Gran: (points at Coach Hudson)
Wilder: “Understood Coach.”
Gran: “One more thing James.”
Wilder: “Yes sir?”
Gran: “I want you to do it without breaking their 174 pound weakside linebacker.”
Wilder: (hangs his head and slowly walks over to Coach Hudson)
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
by Nattylite on Sep 9, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
haha,
I think if he really does got that many rushing yards, it is a given that he breaks at least one player. I would hope he accepts and says, “hell with it, imma break him anyway.”
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
STA's O-line coach
Prepares his guys well for college ball. When I played, the STA O-line consisted of Marcus Gilbert at RT (just graduated UF, currently on Steelers), Dan Wenger (played at Notre Dame, just transferred to UF for SR season with Weiss) and LT Sam Young (4 year starter at Notre Dame, currently with Dallas Cowboys) I’m not surprised by Austin Barron
by FSnowUknow on Sep 9, 2011 3:58 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Fisher
Almost dodged the JWJ question on the radio show and was very very vague something like “we need to make the decision on him playing as a staff” or something. Thinking redshirt as shocking as that is.
interesting,
still don’t know what the real advantage would be to do so.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
unless he is just
really having trouble picking up the play book.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
Right
I don’t want to be the “school that redshirted JWJ”. One would think he brings a lot to the table with his skillset – which is different than any other back we have. Time will tell I suppose.
by Nolesos Locos on Sep 9, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he has grade issues lingering from classes he took at Plant and they are being careful.
He was VERY borderline and was needing to make certain grades to finally qualify.
by Blue Horseshoe on Sep 9, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He's only been playing RB for two years
and we have 4 backs that are capable and ahead of him. I wouldn’t look at it as an indictment on his progress, this is just the first time in a long time that we aren’t completely dependent on the help of a true freshman, regardless of his talent.
I wouldn’t read too much into this negatively either because the speculation leads people to say/spread things that could be (and most likely are) well off base. Whether Wilder takes a RS or not, there isn’t much reason to believe it means he won’t live up to expectations. As physically gifted as he is, he is raw and could use the time to learn how to truly be a college back as opposed to bullying his way to some marginal success out of the backfield.
I'll be HIGHLY disappointed if Wilder redshirt
That just can’t happen. No way
Team work make the dream work
What message does this send to Plant HS and the coach?
JWJ from day one appreciated that we recruited him at RB. I don’t want to see Jimbo go back on his word about giving him a legit shot. May not be a good message to recruits if that doesn’t happen.
I am talking more about perception...
There is a chance perception could be that we lied during the recruitment and that he was never really given a chance at RB. That Jimbo and crew intended to put him at LB from day one and lied.
Isn't Wilder getting a better shot at RB
if he redshirts?
Right now he is 5th or 6th on the depth chart. Jones, Thomas, and Smiley all graduate after this year.
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I really don't know...
It sounds like he got reps in practice…All I am saying is that if he redshirts that may be used against in recruiting….maybe I am wrong or maybe that is just insignificant.
I thought he was promised a shot,
not when he’ll get the shot.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 9, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point
I think we can use the fact that Freeman was here for spring practice and he wasn’t to hold him back for now.
I am hoping that he gets a fair shot at the RB job. I think our recruiting staff has built a reputation of honesty and frankness with recruits, families and coaches. I think that is a very valuable thing.
I believe you have to be honest with recruits, but
you can’t let one hold the team hostage. Give him his shot. If he’s ready, play him. If not, redshirt him. If he’s still not ready, put him at LB.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 9, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Jimbo is tuned into this.....it's not the first high profile recruit he has ever had.
Definitely nothing to worry about at all.
by Blue Horseshoe on Sep 9, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What makes you think Wilder taking a RS means Jimbo went back on his word
This is the danger of speculation. The Coaches have still yet to hint that they want Wilder t switch positions and there’s literally nothing disappointing about redshirting any true freshman. He is being given the shot to learn the RB position, but right now he’s behind two seniors, a junior (returning rushing leader) and another talented classmate that got a full 6 month head start on him. There isn’t a NEED for him to see the field right now, it’ll happen based on whether or not he’s ready.
Spot on
It isn’t the end of the world if he takes a red-shirt. Crazy thought here…it may even benefit him and the team.
This was my thought a loong time ago.
I’d rather be the school that redshirted Wilder to give him a better chance at RB then a team that wasted JWJ’s freshman season on figuring out what position he’ll play.
"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox
Interesting that their O and D lines
are a little bigger than the ones we put on the field just a couple years ago.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
Also interesting
That they have defensive playbooks, and more than 3 plays on offense.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
But they're only using 3 plays against us.
Treating us as a scrimmage.
hahahahahaha! Alright, it’s getting old.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
So the only line I have seen...
has us favored by 53! We gotta win by 8 TDs.
why 1a vs 1aa games are not usually on the board
impossible to spread. Who plays for how long. Is a team working on things. Are they just scoring. ect
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
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I'm confused
I’ve seen it said by more than one person that Gehres is a mdq yet he is still listed on the injury report. Is it because he is going to be one but they just haven’t done it yet?
Not necessary to make the 85 scholarship limit at this point, so why rush it?
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So we're playing FCS Southeast this week?
I actually hope they score a few times so I can hear a medley of school fight songs.
FSU 69
CS 0
Let's see how the mascots stack up tomorrow.......
Ruuuuun, Buc. Ruuuuuunnnnn!!!!!!!!!
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 9, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I still don't think I'm comfortable
with you being a nole fan. HAHA.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Sep 9, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yea. he as the dumb Buc eunning at the spear lol
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If I had flipped them,
everyone would say, “He wasn’t even looking at Osceola before he took off.” Meh.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 9, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because you switched your name and allegiences...
doesnt mean you dont get ribbed.
Who lets this guy post here anyway?
I didnt get a harrumph out of that guy!
Who lets this guy post here anyway?
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 9, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
is your signature telling everyone that the canes were childish and now you are a man?
by newdynastynole on Sep 9, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
Immediately followed by a Yo Mamma joke.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
by Nole Resurrected on Sep 9, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The gif placement is tremendous.
I mean, look where Captain Jack is looking.
Also everyone knows that the Chief is more down with the Sailor Jerry anyway. Or maybe the Admiral.
by AmplifiedJ on Sep 9, 2011 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is there a chance we leave our O line in a bit longer in this game?
Just to get them reps?
The Funk Phenomenon.
I hope our O Line plays the whole game.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of all the players would think they are the most likely,
at least like last game, until the 4th is almost over.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
I just don't want to trot only 6 players out there.
FSU - 3
Chuck South - 2
Why? Jimbo wants to prove he can win by that score.
by Dr.KennethNoisewater on Sep 9, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
That'd save some injury risk.
Flying-V formation with Lonnie snapping the ball to JWJ, flanked by O’Leary, Karlos W, Cameron Erving and Jernigan. You know, because we have more depth at DT than OL.
by Nolesos Locos on Sep 9, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
swing and a miss on that one.
It might be the case that the O-Line got better reps in practice yesterday than they’ll get tomorrow.
sure there is.
it’s called a change of possession. Except for our offense, most of the time it’ll be more like a quick water chug and then back out.
Is it just me or do we have terrible luck w/ concussions?
2011........ The ACC will begin to once again witness the power that is FSU football!
I've never seen anything like the last couple years.
But maybe they’re getting better at recognizing/treating, rather than just “playing through,” so this same phenomenon is going on everywhere.
I think getting cleared to play is a much bigger issue
If their is any chance of them still feeling effects they dont play. Even a few years ago it was are you feeling better, Can you play. Ok go for it
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The game is on ESPN3
can you get it PPV?
by Shooter McFrattin on Sep 9, 2011 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
doubt it, ESPN 3 or nothing.
will re-air in full on sunshine network on sunday.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
No sarcasm whatsoever.
Our schedule sucks. Playing OU isn’t bad enough, we have to play a post-bye week OU.
Rather scrimmage CSU then have an off week
We can run some things against live competition as opposed to doing it non contact against ourselves. This is a bye week. We dont need a special game plan for CSU
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twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
a bye week in week 2 isn't much of a bye
the players on both sides won’t have gotten much chance to tire out. and it’s not like Jimbo and Bob haven’t been looking at each other’s film all spring and summer.
The placement of their bye week
Doesn’t make our schedule suck. I’d rather have a bye towards the middle of the season or right before conference play heats up. The team we play tomorrow is literally like playing a worse version of our practice squad. It’s a bye week with a live scrimmage/confidence booster.
Again, I'm not saying I want a bye week before OU
I agree about CSU. It’s a scrimmage. The fact that OU is rested as well just adds to the bitterness I feel about the teams we face this year and when we face them.
I do not think a week 2 bye week is an advantage.
Only advantage would be less possibility for injury. No need for rest at this point in the season and a huge need for extra practice against talent other than your own team that you practice against every day.
I didnt get a harrumph out of that guy!
Respect your opponent
Last week don’t mean a lot about Charleston.
I feel, that UCF probably over prepared for them, trying to put a big score up to impress somebody.
Charleston will probably work their butts off this week to atone for last week.
We are looking at the score taking them lightly
You can take those forces and wind up in a real ballgame.
Therefore, IMO you should always respect your opponent.
What are you glorifying with your life?
by ricobert1 on Sep 9, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
The Navin R. Johnson of Tomahawk Nation.
by fsu44 on Sep 9, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You laugh.
But I wish Doak had a NASCAR track around the field, too.
by The K-Man on Sep 9, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
“Ladies and Gentlemen, at the conclusion of tonight’s Low Country Clash between our Buccaneers and the Coastal Carolina Chanticleers, please stick around for the Outlaw Sprint Car 120 and the school bus demolition derby!”
by coonhound on Sep 9, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Buy paint
So they can have yard lines
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by BenDNole on Sep 9, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lowe's
Let’s paint yard lines together.
FSU 69
CS 0
by Jamil Dawson on Sep 9, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I read they are only getting 400k for this beat down
That cant be right. But thats what the report is. Their medical bills may be more then done
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Why i figured it would be closer to a mill for the game
A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt.
twitter of random stuff and tons of confessing FSU love @caine115
That's REALLY their stadium?
How do they even let you into D-1 football with a stadium looking like that? I thought there were some standards for that kind of stuff? I’ve seen plenty of D-II stadiums that put that thing to shame!
by seminoleballer on Sep 9, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
As I have said FSU will lose one game this seasonb
To Duke
Size matters and everything about FSU is bigger from ht/wt, Stars on recruits, stadium, and student alcohol consumption.
everyone should have a pet Honey Badger named "Stanley".
problem solved problem staying solved. Rangers Lead The Way
I beat "FCS SE"
94-0 on heisman setting. Three special teams touchdowns, two defensive scores, +6 TO margin. Pulled the starters after scoring 28 in the first quarter. Injured their QB, RB, and “star” WR.
By applying the transitive property of xbox I fully expect jimbo and co. to put up 110+
by Nolein on Sep 9, 2011 4:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
This is a little random
but does anyone have a link to the video that plays on the scoreboard before the game. I thought I’d seen it on here but all I can find is the TRUE Seminole video.
NO INJURIES
I LOVE watching the Noles play like the next man on here, but this game i may have to force myself to watch the 3rd & 4th quarters.
Think it was in Fall camp
so he’s been out a while. With concussions it can be a week, or it can be a month. Each case is different and teams are a lot more cautious about that sort of thing now, so he’ll come back whenever all symptoms are gone. Same for Haulstead.
Knowing is half the battle, the other half is violence.
by onebarrelrum on Sep 10, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
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