ESPN's 2012 College Football Pre-Season Top 25: Four ACC Teams
by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 3:29 PM EST
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Mark Schlabach is out with his "Too Early Top 25" for ESPN. Let's have a look at the four ACC teams listed, in order.
8. Florida State Seminoles: We're taking the bait on the Seminoles again, even after they failed to live up to very high aspirations with a 9-4 finish in 2011. But FSU's lofty preseason billing might have been a year premature and injuries plagued the Seminoles throughout the season. FSU's defense is as good as advertised and it might be even better in 2012 with nine starters coming back. Defensive end Brandon Jenkins and cornerback Greg Reid both passed up entering the NFL draft to return to school. If FSU is going to become a legitimate BCS contender, though, its offense has to be better and more explosive. The Seminoles had young skill players in 2011 and they started four freshman offensive linemen against Notre Dame in the Champs Sports Bowl. Another concern will be replacing All-American punter Shawn Powell. FSU plays seven home games, but will travel to Virginia Tech during ACC play.
7 Starters Lost (3.5 Offense, 2.5 Defense, 1 Special teams): T Zebrie Sanders (SR), WR Bert Reid (partial starter) (RS-SR), RB Jermaine Thomas (partial starter) (SR), G David Spurlock (partial starter) (SR), TE Beau Reliford (SR), LB Nigel Bradham (SR), S Terrance Parks (SR), CB Mike Harris (partial starter) (SR), P Shawn Powell (SR).
1 Reserve Lost (Offense): TE Ja'Baris Little
Arguably the ACC's top team this year, the 'Noles didn't win the title thanks to some hellacious injury luck on the offensive side of the ball, inconsistency and multiple egregious blown calls for which FSU received apologies from the ACC. The defense will be picked to be tops in the country, unless LSU gets its juniors to stay in school. The offensive line must gel, and QB E.J. Manuel must get right mentally.
18. Virginia Tech Hokies: If there's one thing you can count on every season it's that Virginia Tech will win at least 10 games and be in contention in the ACC title race. With a new quarterback and revamped defense, the Hokies went 11-3 in 2011. Virginia Tech will have to rebuild its offense to do it again in 2012. Quarterback Logan Thomas will be back for his second season as a starter, but the Hokies won't have record-setting tailback David Wilson, who is leaving for the NFL draft as a junior. They're also losing four starting offensive linemen and top receivers Jarrett Boykin and Danny Coale. The good news is as many as nine starters might be back on defense
-- if junior cornerback Jayron Hosley comes back.(Note he is gone) The Hokies play nonconference games at Pittsburgh and against Cincinnati at FedEx Field in Landover, Md., and also play ACC road games at Miami, North Carolina and Clemson.
11 Starters lost ( 8 offense, 2 defense, 1 Special Teams): WR Jarrett Boykin (SR), WR/P Danny Coale (SR) TE Chris Drager (RS-SR), LT Andrew Lanier (RS-SR), LG Greg Nosal (RS-SR), RG Jaymes Brooks (RS-SR), RT Blake DeChristopher (RS-SR), RB David Wilson (JR), S Eddie Whitley (SR), CB Jayron Hosley (Jr.).
3 Reserves lost (1 offense, 2 defense): WR Dyrell Robers (SR) Getting a medical redshirt, RB Josh Oglesby (RS-SR), DB Chris Hill (RS-SR), LB Barquell Rivers (SR)
This was the worst Hokie team since at least 2003, narrowly edging out the 2008 squad for the title. But you wouldn't know it by their record, as the Hokies rode a 4-0 mark against a nonconference slate featuring four non-BCS patsies all the way to the Sugar Bowl. Mind you, they were still one of the 25 best teams in the country, but they weren't typical VT good. The defense will need to carry this team, and it likely will, with nine returning starters. The Hokies are the clear division favorite.
22. Clemson Tigers: Tigers coach Dabo Swinney can only hope his team uses its embarrassing loss in the Orange Bowl as motivation during the offseason. Clemson won an ACC title and started 8-0, but a 2-4 slump down the stretch left some serious concerns. Quarterback Tajh Boyd should be better in his second season running offensive coordinator Chad Morris' high-octane attack. Tailback Andre Ellington is considering jumping to the NFL draft, and junior tight end Dwayne Allen has already decided to turn pro. The Tigers must also replace four starting offensive linemen and there isn't a lot of depth in the trenches. Five starters must be replaced on defense, including top linebacker Andre Branch. The Tigers will open the season against Auburn in the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game and play ACC foes Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech at home.
10 Starters lost (5 Offense, 4 Defense, 1 ST): LT Phillip Price (RS-SR), RG Antione McClain (SR), RT Landon Walker (RS-SR), TE Dwayne Allen (JR), FB Chad Diehl (RS-SR), DT Brandon Thompson (SR), DT Rennie Moore (SR), DE Andre Branch (RS-SR), CB Coty Sensabaugh (RS-SR), P Dawson Zimmerman.
5 Reserves lost (3 Offense, 2 Defense): G David Smith (RS-SR), C Mason Cloy (RS-SR), WR Marquan Jones (RS-SR), DE Kourtnei Brown (RS-SR), LB Daniel Andrews (SR),
As noted by our good friends at Shakin The Southland, the defending ACC champ loses 60% of its offensive line snaps and 64% of its defensive line snaps. Most look for Clemson to take a step back in 2012, as the offense becomes more finesse with the loss of Allen and Deihl. Still, they have some outstanding offensive playmakers. Should be very good in 2013.
24. NC State Wolfpack: After a 2-3 start, in which Wolfpack coach Tom O'Brien was criticized for turning quarterback Russell Wilson loose, NC State rallied to win six of its last eight games, including a 31-24 victory over Louisville in the Belk Bowl. Quarterback Mike Glennon ended up being a more-than-capable replacement for Wilson, throwing for 3,054 yards with 31 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. He'll be without three of his top four receivers in 2012, with wideouts T.J. Graham and Jay Smith and tight end George Bryan each departing. Seven defensive starters are expected back, but the Pack will have to rebuild its defensive line and linebacker corps. The secondary should return intact, including ball-hawking cornerback David Amerson. NC State opens the '12 season against Tennessee in the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game and also plays nonconference games against Connecticut (road) and FCS foes South Alabama (home) and The Citadel (home).
10 Starters lost (4.5 Offense, 5.5 Defense): RT Mikel Overgaard (RS-SR), TE George Bryan (RS-SR), FB Taylor Gentry (half due to injury), (SR) WR Jay Smith (RS-SR), WR T.J. Graham (SR), DE Jeff Rieskamp (half due to injury) (SR) DT Markus Kuhn (RS-SR), DT J.R. Sweezy (RS-SR), LB Dwayne Maddox (SR), LB Audie Cole (RS-SR), LB Terrell Manning (JR).
1 Reserve lost (1 Offense, 0 Defense ): WR Steven Howard (RS-SR)
This is a club that could make some noise. They're a lock to be 4-0 or 3-1 in the non-conference. Pair that with a 5-3 type ACC record and you're looking at a shot for ten wins if things break right in the bowl game.
Also of note: West Virginia at #7. Seriously. Can you say overrating based on one game?
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NC State worries me
I’m anxious to see where they fall on the schedule.
by patriotnole on Jan 10, 2012 3:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Re: Clemson
Evidently Ellington is toying w/ Idea of jumping to the NFL.. No confirmation, no Clemson sources are refuting it
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I was told he is staying
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I was shocked to hear it in the first place.
Either way, I don’t think he’s all that great. W/ their OL situation, it won’t make much difference against FSU, IMO
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I actually like him a lot, but see Clemson’s run game taking a step back without Allen or Diehl
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Looking at their depth chart....
They should thank the football gods that they didn’t have anywhere near the injury luck FSU did. Seems to be a substantial age gap on the OL, similar to us.
If they have a guy or two go down next year, Clemson fans could learn the same lesson that we did this.
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Minus a defense holding 10 of 13 opponents to season worsts in yards, points or both.
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Minus anything remotely resembling said defense.
That WVU debacle was embarrassing.
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im not sure that can be stated enough times.
its like Michelle Pfeiffer.
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"If Alabama is the number 2 defense, FSU is 2A".
i try again next time minues beer.
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"If Alabama is the number 2 defense, FSU is 2A".
I look at it this way.
70 points allowed is a record that could be broken one day. No one will ever score less points than LSU did in a BCS game.
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by Nole Resurrected on Jan 11, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
They struggled after Price went down.
I feel more like I do now, than I did before
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by HaveNoleOption on Jan 10, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Terrell Manning declared for the NFL draft
So that’s NCSU’s top two linebackers out the door. That unit worries me heading into next year.
A highly ranked WVU
Would be great for our potential (undesirable) matchup. Any new news on getting that game off the schedule?
by NoleadgeIsPower on Jan 10, 2012 3:44 PM EST reply actions
I do not
As discussed numerous times on here the game is definitely unnecessary, especially if we were to start in the top 10. However, if it is to be played it might as well be against a team that is ranked highly.
by NoleadgeIsPower on Jan 10, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
That rank is based
on a weak Big East schedule and one lucky blow out win. Syracuse blew WVU out earlier in the year. I would much rather play them than Oklahoma. I guess I just down buy the hype.
All ya gotta do is get 'em.
WVU's AAD said they "will be playing in the B12 next year"
I assume if that’s their stance, they’re going to want to get out badly.
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
I don’t expect him back and didn’t include him. think he started three games?
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Wow #8
I think that would be a little high considering the transmission of our O-line. I would wait to see if they can shift gears without wasting my my beverage all over the place before placing that high of a price tag on them.
by NOLEisticscience on Jan 10, 2012 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who would you have over FSU at this point? I don’t think schedule is factored in, so we’re not talking about teams that will play nobody and make it to 10-2ish
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Would have to give it a little thought. I would put u around 12-15
Just because of the O-line. Only reason u say that is because we started out ranked high last year with a line that had not gelled. I think this one will have to prove itself first. Not saying they can’t turn out to be good, it’s just left left a bad taste in my mouth.
by NOLEisticscience on Jan 10, 2012 4:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But lots of lines need to gel. That’s not a problem unique to FSU. That they all got busted up, well, that is.
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That’s not a problem unique to FSU. That they all got busted up, well, that is.
Why do you think that is, Bud?
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by STAquinasNole on Jan 10, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Simple: it's the most injury-prone position in football.
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by DRusso97 on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If its true that he punishes guys by making them workout without their
supplemental pads ( ie whatever knee braces, etc), do you think that might play a role (no matter how trivial you may think) in injuries occurring? Listen, I was a HUGE trickett guy even before he came to FSU, and was so thrilled when he came here. I do think however, he has questions that need answering for the debacle that occurred this year.
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How many of the OL was lost to knee injuries?
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Do you think it might have been because these guys had a lot of miles on them, so to speak?
Better yet, what’s the average number of seasons played by OL in the NCAA. That would definitely be something worth comparing FSU’s OL to.
http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2010/7/7/1467728/which-nfl-position-groups-suffer
This (granted it’s NFL and only IR numbers, but still) says otherwise about OL being the most injury-prone position. However, WOULD that be the case that would just be more reason to have built up depth… which we didn’t really do effectively.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123984090891223207.html
http://excusemeformyvoice.com/blog/?p=1289
Looking at the team with the highest number of combined starts on the list of PAC-10 teams from the excusemeformyvoice blog, USC, we can see that they returned a total of 91 starts from their offensive line. That’s an average of 18.2 starts per player. A season and a half apiece.
They were the most experienced line in the PAC-10.
If you look at the WSJ article, ND and VT were both listed as lines to watch. That’s because their guys were averaging 20 starts apiece.
How many starts did Datko and Zebrie have? There’s got to be some kind of relationship like the law of diminishing returns here.
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by STAquinasNole on Jan 11, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
However, if there is not such a relationship,
there’s still a great need to establish depth consistently. FSU has been missing consistent OL recruiting. End of story.
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by STAquinasNole on Jan 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Most football injuries are freak occurances, particularly on OL, not injuries of repetition.
On DL, action is coming at you from the front & sides. Not very often from the rear.
On OL, action is coming at you from the rear & occasionally from the sides. Very rarely from the front, and very dangerous.
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I think you have to factor in that the entire OL will be experienced next year. I, for one, expect a huge improvement if we get some injury luck.
by NoleadgeIsPower on Jan 10, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
8 players on the OL with starting experience return.
Should be able to find 5 solid players out of that.
It would be nice...
8 players on the OL with starting experience return.
if FSU could get all 8 or at least 5 to be able to participate in spring practice and stay healthy through 2-a-days. If they are going to gell, they need some time together.
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12 scholarship lineman on the roster for Spring.
Not including Orelus.
But your point is valid. Will all 12 participate?
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 10, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
All 12 would be great, but if
Trickett could set a depth chart by the end of spring , then come fall the starters would of had at least those 20(or how many they play) practices together…that would go a long way to solidifying the OL.
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If WVU does end up that high
Good chance Gameday will be back at Doak next year if we can’t get out of the game, #GlassHalfFull
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 10, 2012 3:56 PM EST reply actions
I believe both new SEC squads play in their division on the 8th.
UGA vs Mizzou and I think UF vs A&M.
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by numberonenole on Jan 10, 2012 8:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
A properly done early-top 25 list.
Actually factors in returning personnel, scheduling, etc.
People like McMurphy barely scratch the surface. Schlabach actually does a good job.
Completely agree.
On the 247 blue board we had a top 5 discussion last night, and most mirrored Shlabach’s to some degree. I snuck UGA in mine, personally…
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I don’t get the UGA love. Did the team really improve? Or did they get to play a bunch of nobodies down the stretch? Thought they would go 10-2 entering the year, and win the East, and not be anything special.
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 10, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Though FSU crushed UF, and win over Notre Dame was better than any UGA win, right?
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They did rip Auburn 45-7. ND >> AU, but that was a healthy beatdown.
I will say that UGA let too many scrub teams hang around. (Mississippis, Vandy, Kentucky, Florida)
Football is my favorite show.
That "scrub" team beat Wake 41-7
And they also hung around (lost by less than a TD IIRC) to a very good Arkansas team
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Should have beat Ark
but didn’t look good against Cincy.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I thought they looked OK.
Tough matchup for Vandy IMO…Cincy’s offense is pretty underrated, IMO, and held NCST to 14 pts and WVU to 24 or so.
I was thrilled with their play this year. Jordan Rodgers improved markedly as the season went on, and Zac Stacey stayed as healthy as one could hope.
James Franklin will offered a bigtime job soon, IMO
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Correct
UGA’s best W was against… Mississippi State? Auburn? UF? Best performance was the L to USC where USC got multiple turnover TDs and a fake punt TD.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Guess so
But Auburn was a paper Tiger, so to speak.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Agree
Auburn was rated to highly this past season!
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UGA beatdown of Auburn
who took UVA to the woodshed.
Don’t forget that.
Auburn was better by the end of the year than many detractors thought.
Or UVA wasn't as good as people thought
UVA beat FSU, so kudos to that but they didn’t really beat anybody else. Here’s their schedule.
For a half before getting housed?
Also smoked by Boise. Will say, unlucky to lose to USCe.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
They get to do it again next year too though
Easy schedule part deux.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Beat me to it.
I don’t think they’re necessarily that great, but won’t have to be.
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Dream scenario gotta be that we skate by a weak ACC
and somehow UGA runs the table (perhaps getting lucky against Arky in SECCG) and we face them for the ship. All other realistic opponent possibilities scare me.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Oh yeah, that would be awesome
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USCw
Sets up really nice to get to the championship game. Beat Oregon and your in
The next time we play UF 1,092 days will have passed since they have been able to hold our jock strap.
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by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Then I agree w/ kmp
Barkley coming back is mind numbing, though…I wonder what Kiffin is giving him to stay?
The 2011 USC-Stanford game was one of the best of the year.
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Keep in mind the scholarship sanctions.
USC may have depth issues next year. It will all depend on injury luck. If they stay healthy they will right there.
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 10, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Depends. If USC is to compete with Bama, LSU and Oregon...USC has to play catch up..
It must play “catch up” and fill up the depth with Freshmen. They didn’t have the luxory of redshirting alot of people.
Didn’t they lose 5 slips a year for the past 3 years?
FSU has 18 scholarships on their DL.
Unless they have a fantastic walk-on program, they will be more vulnerable to injuries than top tier schools. And I consider USC a Top Tier school.
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by pasadenanole22 on Jan 10, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
No. USC didn't lose scholarships yet.
That starts with the 2012 class I believe.
Yep.....
Showed my friends at work their Dawgs schedule and even they laughed. Besides playing at MIZZ and UF, then the SECCG..,. We “could” have a USC vs UGA national championship game
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by numberonenole on Jan 10, 2012 8:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hard to beat that schedule for them next year. They get the benefit of playing “in the SEC” without playing Bama, LSU, Arkansas.
Lots of talent… reminds me of an early 2000s FSU team.
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UGA will fold up like a tent.
UGA NEVER has a good year when expected to.
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by Nole Resurrected on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
They'll be the favorites to win the East again
Get Ole Miss and Auburn out of the West. Good chance that gives them a 2 game head start over UF (@ TAMU, LSU) and USCe( @ LSU, Arky)
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 10, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
2012 schedule
IMO. Nobody besides SCAR will pose a threat, and I think they can handle them.
In regards to 2011, they did beat a bunch of nobodies down the stretch
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They can lose to USCe and still win the division again.
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While UGA gets Ole Miss and Auburn
Depending on what each do w/ Mizzou, UGA could possibly lose 2 games and still win the East.
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That's what I want to say to the UGA fans around here.
Problem is, they can say the same thing back.
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by Nole Resurrected on Jan 11, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
"Properly Done"
Depends on what you’re trying to do.
Schedule should take no precedent in determining a power poll
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I don't think it was a power poll
He had Boise St at #5 last year, and I think Schlabauch is smarter than that
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Just meant to point out properly done takes on different meanings depending on what you're trying to accomplish.
Ranking the best teams
vs.
Ranking where you think teams will finish
etc.
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Any rumblings the ACC is going to try and shove another Labor Day game down our throats?
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 10, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’d play it this year.
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Gives you extra time to prep, right?
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NEVERMIND. That won’t happen.
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In your opinion do you think we will play WVU next year?
by NationWideNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
But that’s not certain
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I understand but I have a feeling we will end up playing them
Spetman will cry poverty and WVU won’t pay for our replacement so they stuck
by NationWideNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I don't mind playing WVU
as long as it’s right after they play OU, Texas & OKSt consecutively.
Championship!
The Kickoff Games are non-conference and scheduled seperately. Like how FSU is already playing at USF on 9/29 and UF the Saturday after Thanksgiving
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-12/acc/2012-florida-state-seminoles-football-schedule.php
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 10, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
We're already locked in that weekend
Biggest concern has got to be ACC failing to leverage best asset and putting us v. VT on a Thursday night.
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't think we'll play at VT on Thursday night
One of the few games the ACC can get national attention for on a regular Saturday. Mostly likely another Thursday night trip to Raleigh
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 10, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
The North Carolian State fair is Oct 11-21
So that might be a clue on deciphering how the ACC will screw us next.
by NationWideNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
It’s funny because it’s true.
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Usually around mid Feb
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by AMFKNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
My guess is, the WVU is going to be thick with gamesmanship and posturing
Both teams want out, but WVU may HAVE to get out which means if FSU thinks it can get some money from WVU it will make it seem like it really wants to play the game.
I'm rec'ing this.
He did a pretty good job, IMO. Nobody saw us or OU dropping like we did, and all Boise had to do was drop one game to be considered irrelevant.
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Wow that was really close to being the final polls
no doubt in my mind at one point OU was one of the three best teams in the country. Not sure how they fell so badly down the stretch
are we reading the same poll? he was on except for the teams he was off on...makes sense.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 10, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
if all these clubs we face next year have lost 4 offensive lineman our defense is going to have a field day every week!
The next time we play UF 1,092 days will have passed since they have been able to hold our jock strap.
FSU 14-0 AND 2012 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!
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Lap it up schmucks.
>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.
by FrankDNole on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I never one to say many good things about the gators
But it looks like they are going to hire Pease from Boise State. That Boise offense is good, I don’t like the sound of it.
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In the 6 years or so I've watched you post
This is the first compliment (as weirdly as you worded it) I’ve EVER seen you give UF.
You are getting soft.
Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.
There is no denying that Boise offense is good
Right now I would have to admit Pease is probably a better OC than Jimbo. The guy just makes things go. I hate to see UF get him.
The Seminoles are still America's team
Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear
he may be a better oc than CJF is an OC/HC....if CJF was an OC alone id take ol Jimbo
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 10, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
The Boise OC that was there for 5 of those past 6 years is at Texas and he sucked. This new guy has 1 year or so under his belt and had Kellen Moore to make him look good
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
I'm hopeful about that
Don’t know much about the guy, but I did read that he just became OC this year. Seems like having a QB like Moore would make your first year as OC a bit easier.
Hopefully he has some trouble at a high-pressure job (nothing against him, just gotta cheer for a gator fail ya know) that does have talent but also has some problems.
We are on our way!!!!
The Seminoles are still America's team
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Any chance we use less zone blocking or a little more I form next season? At LSU jimbo used that H back position a lot.
by pb4957 on Jan 10, 2012 5:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
FSU used more man than ever this year. I think they should go to more zone.
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zone v man
isn’t it more difficult to teach/run when the lineup is changing every week? thats why i assumed we ran so much man this year.
I know we've have stats on ypc based on formation
But I don’t think we have it based upon zone v. man blocking. Would be interesting.
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I hope West Virginia is the most hyped team in the off-season.
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I hate that Millen guy.
"You can’t live a perfect day until you do something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
— John Wooden
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
by pasadenanole22 on Jan 10, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
I did until he commentated a FSU game.
He constantly ripped the officiating against the Noles.
by zewhitedevil on Jan 11, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
That is grist to keep the gates off balance.
Of course right now they are suffering from Tebowmania
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 11, 2012 9:10 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
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