2012 Recruiting Discussion Thread #38 [CLOSED]
by DA-2 on Jan 12, 2012 5:41 PM EST
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PrintWelcome to the recruiting discussion thread. Please refer to the Recruiting Board for information on prospects. We are asking readers comment here instead of the recruiting board so that the recruiting board will load quicker. Feel free to talk recruiting news, rumor, information, etc. Amateurs and experts are all welcome. No question is too simple. Have a projected class? That's fine as well.
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Specific Player Questions (Check here before asking)
- Mario Edwards Jr.- Michael@TN reported that Edwards commitment to Florida State is again solid after the Unofficial Visit during the NC State 34-0 blowout. Edwards Jr will Official Visit Florida State on January 13.
- Dante Fowler- His recruitment has been very interesting. He's grown up a Florida State fan, but still has ties to Florida. He's taken multiple visit to Florida, including this summer when he was rumored to be leaning toward Florida. He also took in the beating Florida received from Alabama in early October. He's remained a Florida State commitment, but is scheduled to take official visits to University of Southern California, as well as Louisiana State. Those schools should not matter though, as he's been quoted as saying it's down to Florida and Florida State. His recruitment should be something interesting to watch.
- Dorial Green-Beckham- FSU is not in the race for this receiver from Missouri. His brother is very sick and he wants to stay closer to Arkansas. That means Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, etc. Not FSU.
- Andrus Peat- One of the more intriguing players in this class. Although at first glance you question why a kid from Arizona with a brother at Nebraska would go to FSU, there is some interest here. Peat's grandparents surprisingly live in Tallahassee. FSU still isn't the favorite to get Peat, that's probably Nebraska, but it's not impossible for Peat to be a Nole come signing day. And there is no question that FSU would take him if he wants in. 1/4/12 update: Corey Long of ESPN.com is reporting he plans to visit FSU the weekend of January 20th.
- Jameis Winston- is a Nole. There's no talk of him switching to hometown Alabama. There's no visits scheduled to Florida State yet (that are known of), but there are none to Alabama either. No need to worry about this point.
Official Visits
1/13/2011
WR Nelson Agholor
OT Menelik Watson- Juco OT who has been playing football for only a year. One of the best athletes you will find on the offensive line, but is just learning the game.
DE Mario Edwards
QB Sean Maguire
TE Christo Kourtzidis
LB Markuss Eligwe
Note: Dr Krop Athlete Johnnie Durante and CB Colin Blake are working on setting up official visits. More info on Blake here
1/20/2012
OL Andrus Peat
LB Josh Clemons
Update 1/10
- Added the 2012 recruiting board.
- Florida State's minimum needs
Please keep in mind that it is unlikely all of these players will qualify. FSU is unlikely to enroll 25 players or anything like that.
QB Sean Maguire
QB Jameis Winston
RB Delmarick "Mario" Pender
WR Marvin Bracy
TE Christo Kourtzidis
1 RB/WR/TE
OL Daniel Glauser
OL
OL (Optional)
DE Dante Fowler, Jr.
DE Chris Casher
DE Mario Edwards, Jr.
DT Dalvon Stuckey
DT Justin Shanks
DL?
LB Markuss Eligwe
LB ?
DB P. J. Williams
DB (Optional)
1-2 DB/LB/DL
K Roberto Aguayo
P Cason Beatty
credit: TimScribble, caine115, fsugrizz.
credit: TimScribble
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Hey guys, I will post this again: this thread is for RECRUITING discussion
Any discussion on the 2012 season, depth chart, predictions on the record, etc belongs in the ongoing/off topic thread of Frank’s, thank you!!
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Anybody ready to put up their attempt at a mock class?
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 6:15 PM EST reply actions
I'll give y'all my best guess as of today:
QB: Jameis Winston
QB: Sean Maguire
RB: Delmarick Pender
WR: Marvin Bracy
TE: Christo Kourtzidis
OL: Daniel Glauser
OL: Menelik Watson
OL: Joe Scelfo
DE: Mario Edwards
DE: Chis Casher
DE: Dante Fowler
DT: Eddie Goldman
DT: Justin Shanks
DT: Dalvon Stuckey
LB: Markuss Eligwe
LB: Reggie Northrup
DB: PJ Williams
DB: Ronald Darby
DB: AJ Leggett
K: Roberto Aguayo
P: Cason Beatty
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Agholor UF
Williams Auburn ( I sincerely hope FSU can somehow get him, love him)
Howard UF
Peat Nebraska
Clemons UGA
Blake TAMU
Goodman ASU
Gardner Arky
We were all created to be Seminoles. This is why we bleed garnet and piss gold.
by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Disappointed honestly
I like Glauser but Watson is basically an unknown (though super athletic) and Scelfo, eh. I love last years OL class though.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
No Need to Panic
I believe we only sign 3 OLineman at the most!!! Had a great class of Oline in 2011. I think in 2013 we will have another great Oline recruiting class!!! I think Goodman stays at Arizona State, Sceilfo ends up at North Carolina, Andrus Peat @ Nebraska. I think if we sign more than 1 Olineman, the other 2 signees will be Will Latu and Menelik Watson, both JUCO OLineman
Latu doesn't have the grades for FSU, he isn't an option
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
I think this is absolutely spot on. Idk how feasible, would love to swap out Scelfo for Goodman.
This OL class just makes me smh. Esp with all the talent that was available this year in state.
Or Erik Flowers
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2012 Commitments/Signees (Final)
QB Jameis Winston
QB Sean McGuire
RB Mario Pender
WR Marvin Bracy
TE Christo Kourtzidis
OL Daniel Glauser
OL Menelik Watson
OL Will Latu
DE Mario Edwards Jr.
DE Dante Fowler Jr.
DE Chris Casher
DE Leonard Williams
DT Eddie Goldman
DT Justin Shanks
DT Dalvon Stuckey
LB Ukeme Eligwe
CB PJ Williams
CB Ronald Darby
CB Amos Leggett
K Roberto Aguayo
P Cason Beatty
Other Targets
WR Nelson Agohlor – Florida
CB Colin Blake – Texas A+M
LB Josh Harvey Clemmons – Georgia
CB Tracy Howard – LSU
LB Kwon Alexander – Auburn
OL Andrus Peat – Nebraska
OL Evan Goodman – Arizona State
LB Reggie Northrup – Miami
3 Jucu O lineman and 0 HS O lineman
would be disappointing. Aside from that it’s a great class
I believe so, I know our oline was the achilles heel this season with the injuries and lack of self discipline (penalites) to boot. Besides just in my opinion, we had a great 2011 Oline recruiting class so if we stay healthy this upcoming season hopefully our line will gel together as a unit. By only taking 1 olineman max 3, its not going to hurt us
The 2011 class was great
But, remember the 2010 class was Dan Foose?
Could someone explain what happens on an official and unofficial visit and the difference between the two?
I know a recruit has only 5 officials and unlimited unofficials, but what does a kid get exposed to on an official that he doesn’t on an unofficial? Are the coaches able to take them out to dinner or does the meal have to be supplied by the school somehow?
I’ve always wondered the difference between the 2 from the recruit’s standpoint.
I believe Jimbo has the recruits over to his house for dinner.
Don’t think you can do that on a unofficial.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
by BenDNole on Jan 12, 2012 7:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
A coach's time with a recruit is limited is it not?
I’m wondered as well, I know officials are all paid, but what about unofficials? Are they not on the recruits’ dime?
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
Yes unless you're Saban.
Then you can call, text, tweet, facebook etc the recruits as much & whenever you want lol
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Or you are URBAN and you can "Dream" about a recruit :D
"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
And discuss what "faith means"
If life gives you lemons, go ahead and watch some FSU football.
by JaxJagNole on Jan 12, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yep.& it still works too even after what he did to Elam.
Noah Spence seems to have been whew’d by the good ole “Faith speech”
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Weis also has recruits over for dinner
where they are often never heard from again.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Spit my vodka orange juice all over my couch!!!
by SarasotaSeminole on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
You should be drinking vodka water on that diet.
I’ll be back in town monday.
We have recruiting talk to catch up on and make a mock class.
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Holy crap!!!
The context on this one made me almost choke on MRE crackers:) LMAO man that was good…
I wonder if the commit is before or after the option for dessert…
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by RobbSeminole on Jan 15, 2012 7:12 AM EST up reply actions
Official visits are paid by the institution. Unofficial are paid by the prospect on their own and must be on campus only – Including meals. What gets covered in terms of info, meetings, etc. varies on the prospect (number in attendance, who’s with them [coach or parent] , whether the visit is a day or 48 limit, etc).
by FSU on Jan 12, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Another topic for discussion: how does Clemson's firing Steele effect their ability to recruit Florida?
If I’m correct, I believe Steele was a big recruiter in our state.
Let's see who he is replaced with first
Dont think Dabo wants to concede Florida defensive talent just yet. Should be interesting.
by FSUActuary on Jan 12, 2012 7:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't see it helping them.
Dabo will have to dedicate time to hiring a DC during the most crucial recruiting period with one less coach on the staff. I have to believe this will help us w/ Darby.
If im not mistaken, Clemson was doing a good job recruiting FL before Steele arrived.
Spiller and some others come to mind. Depending on who they get I could see it hurt recruiting. Not necessarily in FL, but overall. Steele was a darn good recruiter, no doubt. It’ll be interesting to see where he goes from here.
by jenolesone on Jan 12, 2012 10:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Have to remember
Our recruiting was beginning to fall off right before Steele arrived if not before then…
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by Kelvin Hunt on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Steele's Unceremonious Exit proves
you are just one season away from gone when you don’t have a dominating defensive line (unless you were fortunate-enough to coach for Bobby Bowden).
There's reports of Steele having mental issues
We have heard several disturbing things about Steele’s possible psychological breakdown during the Orange Bowl game. Multiple sources have said that he was calling plays from his days with the Panthers, which aren’t in the Clemson playbook, and as such the players were totally confused. It reportedly happened during the Auburn game as well. I do not know if that is true, and frankly think it a bit farfetched, but I do know that Steele has a reputation for being a nervous wreck on gamedays. I’m sure most of you recall that he passed out on the sidelines during a game, and I have heard many times that he requires an IV for fluids because he’s such a wreck and won’t eat at all on gameday. Hopefully he can get these things corrected for his own health.
From the same article
As you see, if the ducks quack loud enough, things happen. As for recruiting impact this weekend, I think it is going to be minimal unless we have a total philosophic shift on defense, and with Dabo’s preference for tight coverage and pressure, I doubt that happens. Steele was not the chief recruiter for our defensive commitments this cycle.
Entertaining but irrational comments... but consider the source.
So it came down to this conflict in recruiting philosophy?
with Dabo’s preference for tight coverage and pressure
Actually STS is one of the best sites on the net
He’s stating that he feels that Dabo will higher somebody bringing a similar defensive scheme so the players they’ve been recruiting will fit in. He’s not saying that Steele left because he and Dabo had different belief systems.
Clemson's recruiting is touch-and-go right now
until they can get the Cash Cab back on the road.
It hurts them, but they had already planned to not rely on Florida so much
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
The biggest picture of
Mario Pender you can find to the front page please. I live in east TN. Vol fans everywhere. Ulcers. Only you can fix this Bud!
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by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Can anyone explain what it’s like to be a big profile recruit? I am interested in aspects such as when do you begin being recruited? How is contact initially made between players and schools? If you’re being recruited by 5 or 10 schools + fans + recruitniks how do you possibly focus on school and have a life without being bombarded with questions? What the heck do coaches and recruits talk about? Like with my friends we hang out and do stuff but you wouldn’t necessarily do that with a coach from a school you don’t/can’t see so how does the relationship get formed really? What is/is not allowed as a recruit such as:
- how expensive can dinner be
- are any gifts at all allowed?
- Does accepting gifts make you ineligible (say I want to sabotage a FU recruit – could I legally get in trouble if I gift him 5k (within IRS gift limits) only to make him ineligible)?
Scholarships are typically for 1 year only or 4 years or depends?
Sorry for so many questions but I am sure many others have these as well.
A) The dinner has to be within what’s called “the reasonable scope of entertainment” (also known as the Willie Williams Rule) most compliance offices set what it would be per person.
2) No gifts allowed. Their host is given $30 per day for entertainment but can’t buy paraphenalia for them
D) Potentially yes
Plaid) 1 year. Athlete and coach sign renewal paperwork at the end of the GIA award
Pretty sure it is more than $30 a day....
by Volstud on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
ppffftt...
Lol. 30 per day however there is an additional 15 per additional prospect you are hosting.
So…If I host 2 prospects over a weekend I get $90 for a fri-sat night if ive signed up as their host.
I am terrible at math, I will be the first to admit, but...
Isn’t $30 + $30 + $15 + $15 + $15 + $15 = $120?
Or is it just $15 per recruit, not $15 per recruit per day?
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I think she meant a base of 30 and then 15 for each additional prospect. So 30+30+15+15 = 90
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Yeah, just clarifying
Seems if you get the 30 twice, you would get the 15 twice for each person you are hosting (if you are hosting for 2 days)
Oh nevermind, going to TRY to finish this work today before it’s time to go home…
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
there’s ALOT you can do for basically $100 for a Friday & Saturday night in Tally…not counting house parties, etc
Wait…the Irish pub is gone?
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 13, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Still right below Yannis my friend.
No worries.
The Irish pub is gone as of right now.
Large amounts of mold and E. Coli found in all of lower. Yiannis is closed now too. The rumor is that their gone forever.
Forgive me for being OT
Oh I know
For $100 you can basically have the VIP table at the Palace Saloon (the one by the bathrooms) and constant stream of pitchers and cheese fries all night long.
Both nights.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Or you can spend 30 bucks and die from a mix of sake bombs and boiled peanuts
I believe they call that heaven…
I once spent 300 at palace on dollar can day
Never, ever spent more than $50 in a night.
And some nights partied for free because we stayed to help clean up the bar.
Oh the days….
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Exactly.
If you spend more than $50 a night on yourself drinking in Tally, you messed up. Or you are beyond messed up.
Bullwinkles $10 AYCD son.
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
by stevegrizzle on Jan 13, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
The recruits are notold enough to drink lol
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Oh of course.
Sorry, I was only referring to NattyLite’s post alone, not the discussion. Though I doubt age will stop these kids from getting drinks at bars regardless.
I bet they are real careful about that
Nothing like getting in trouble cause someone takes a pic at a bar of an 18 year old recruit chugging a beer with his host from the team.
Now, not saying many times they dont have a “good” time lol, and not bashing it. But I bet its not as crazy the majority of the time, depends on past relationships and what the team/coaches policy is and being careful of violations.
Even though I know the thread was just talking about it I didnt mean to derail
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As an aside...the first questions
- Recruiting for high profile players varies with the prospect and the situation. Literally every kid is different.
- Most of the time contact is made through coaching networks, recruiting services or camp
- Prospects quickly find out that being high profile has its disadvantages (everyone evaluating every move you make thinking it’s a tip off to what your thought process is)
- Prospects and coaches talk about different things. Some talk about ball. Some talk about life. Some a mixture of both. Odell is old school and very good at this
Take this FWIW because I was by no means a high profile recruit.
I was recruited to various division 2/3 schools in the northeast as I played high school ball in New York. But I’ll share my experience to give you a basic idea.
My Sophomore year I played JV most of the year and moved up to varsity later in the year. I first received a college letter in the offseason around January/February. I then proceeded to reach out to different schools to get in contact with coaches. My Junior year I started every game and began to gain more exposure. The letters picked up a lot but mostly after the season ended.
Between Junior and Senior years I was invited to various showcase camps, combines, etc.. I went there and met more coaches gained more exposure. I started going on visits in the summer between Junior/Senior years. As my senior year progressed, I would go on more visits and gained more exposure. For instance, there were several weekends in a row where I would play my game on friday night and saturday morning I’d leave early to visit a school for a game and hang out for the day/weekend. Any visit I went on I always ate on campus whether it as in the dining hall or some schools had BBQ type stuff after every game. We would then meet with coaches/ players tour the facilities, etc..
After the season ended senior year schools started visiting my high school throughout the school week. I was getting pulled out of classes sometimes 3 times a day to meet with schools. Then “unofficial visits” continued throughout winter break/January and through February. The offseason visits consisted of mainly meeting with coaches, touring the athletic facilities/classrooms, catching a meal in the dining hall, touring the dorms, meeting with players and other activities such as these. I committed and that was that. Kind of a watered down process compared to what these guys go through I’m sure but it gives you a general idea. The key is really exposure. Once your name is out there, everything picks up.
Hope this helps some!
by fsucj2431 on Jan 12, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
This is fantastic.
Thanks for taking the time! I bet the framework is very similar to top recruits, with, perhaps, the numbers of times taken from classrooms and focus received at the schools being different. Again, thanks…
Foxy Coeds as Escorts
Are made available to some recruits. I had a med student several years ago, a very fine lady who was an FSU alum. During her last year, she was a volunteer escort. The duties she told us about were the typical tours around campus sort of thing.
Of course being a hot blooded Nole I wondered about the nature of this escort business.
Any “inside” information to he’d light on this practice?
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Never liked the practice, Don’t like the term escort either for hostesses or whatever each institution calls it. It gets into a grey area of ‘direction’ by the institution post ‘official’ duties and I don’t like getting mixed up in that business. (see UT “Hostess Situation” as an example).
...Scalphunters? And their girlfriends...
Friendly, mercernary-like girlfriends.
Am I the meanest? Am I the prettiest? Am I the baddest mofo low down around this town? Well who am I? Who am I?
I can't hear you..
by STAquinasNole on Jan 14, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe things have changed but I still think that kids are kids.
My most favorite memory was a weekend with a bunch of broke guys, and we were visiting a school on a late fall “Indian Summer”, Half of us were put up in one Frat house. The other half, in another. Both Frat houses had a so-called “Friendly” lacrosse game…..I mean we were all football players and we tried like hell to win. Tough not very pretty game..:)
These are the kind of out of the box recruiting idea’s that schools just either are too lazy to employ, or except for schools like USC….Do not have the support of all necessary parties involved. It is just all to easy to just write a check.
I think kids just want the money and don’t care about lacrosse
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
by stevegrizzle on Jan 14, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We still have a shot, but it seems him qualifying is a bit worse than previously thought
=/
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
So are the only targets coming tomorrow that aren't committed to Fsu
Only NA and menilik?
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 12, 2012 8:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Latu
I for one won’t cry over a kid who played football for 1 year in hs (ifthis is true), has to go to Juco, then while there doesneven make good grades.
i wouldn’t fell good about him making good grades at FSU.
Tell me therehave to be better options.
Is he head and shoulders above Watson?
Well I had no idea Latu had grade issues.
by Tony Mustian on Jan 12, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
That's why he jumped ship from Aubun
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Should I be concerned that there has been no confirmation that Pender has EE'd?
"If you want to see me, come watch me on Fridays. I play in pads."
-(Future FSU Star) Mario Pender
I've found out a class he's scheduled to be in and will be taking first day attendance.
Kidding, but start worrying if he doesn’t show Monday from what I hear.
All I want for NSD is Eddie Goldman...
Pender
Worrying that he won’t EE or worrying that he won’t sign at all?
He's a Nole
but if we want significant contributions from him in 2012, he needs to get in the program now.
"If you want to see me, come watch me on Fridays. I play in pads."
-(Future FSU Star) Mario Pender
The higher up's
on TOS are pretty concerned that they have heard absolutely nothing, safe to say everyone is worries, we should be as well.
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This story has been very strange for awhile now.
Strange in a bad way.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Bad
As in he may not be an EE or may not be a Nole at all?
by HOOSIER NOLE on Jan 13, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Hes 100% Nole as mentioned many times
no worries. But EE would make him much more ready to contribute this season
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As I said like 2 recruiting threads ago, Pender is an EE according to people that should know about this stuff.
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Huh?
I was replying to Hoosier Nole asking if bad pender news referred to his EE or not being a Nole
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I don't think I have seen much info on this topic - sign and place
Has FSU has success with sign and place strategies? given that we have a handful of guys seemingly every year that we “sign and place”.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions
do we ever see one of these sign and place kids make an impact?
I ask only because I don’t know/cant recall one.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
lately the two guys we signed and placed (DeJoshua Johnson and Terry Bell)
We haven’t had room for them after they got their grades in order. Amp McCloud has definitely made an impact on the defensive line for us, but Smiley not so much.
Terry Bell was just placed last year. And after DJJ didn’t get the grades to get in, I don’t think our coaches wanted him to come back.
My photo appeared in the Nightlife photo collage of the FSView for six weeks in-a-row. That’s who I am.
I just started to think about it because we always hear of kids not having grades to make it but we sign and place, that led to is this even effective at all?
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. Because you want to always help JC coaches as much as possible and want them as advocates for you
now, this makes sense. I just didn't see the benefit especially if a kid may scare other recruits away if it isn't known he's a sign a place until late.
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
JC coaches have less restrictions and can advocate for you with kids, HS coaches, etc. and can keep you in the loop on what other programs are doing if you and their staff are close.
Ive always wondered something, is Juco its own division? Or is it D2 or D3 football?
I just never read about D2 or D3 kids transfering to D1 and I’ve wondered if Juco means just that.
by jenolesone on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Happens on occasion.
JC is its own entity separate from NCAA & NAIA. In fact, JC has its own levels (JC Division I vs. JC Division II, etc). And some areas such as California are their own deal with some sports.
is there anything you don't know??
by garnetandgold on Jan 13, 2012 8:46 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
what it feels like to stand and....
well you get the rest ;-)
Thanks FSU, myfirst rec. As i re-read it though i was thinking more along the lines of “worst joke of the year” but nonetheless its appreciated.
Now you got another one.
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Commenter of the year
Was the toughest category, but FSU got my vote.
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"Alot" is not a word for example...
I see what you did there in proving your point. Well played.
by LilburnNole on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
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Terry bell could come back on the OL as well if DT is still stacked
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think you may mean Damien Jacobs (Maybe not)
as opposed to Bell. Bell still has another year of JUCO left. Apparently Jacobs was needed as the d-line situation had improved dramatically at FSU during the two years he was in JUCO
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 13, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, He's a UF now
FSU didn’t stay in contact with him
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 15, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
If you count prep school as sign and place
then Broderick Bunkley (sp?), DL, was a success story years ago. I don’t hear much about prep schools any more. Does anyone know if that route has fallen out of fashion?
Tye was a prep student while Werner was a regular high school student.
FSU football is the new case study for the outliers phenomon
You might be referring to a post graduate year
I’m not exactly sure what the conditions are for people to do a post-graduate year at a prep school, though. I went to a boarding school in MA that always had a number of post graduate students on the football and basketball teams (Dallas Baker for example). Stay tuned…
From my boarding school's website
“Community college vs. NMH postgraduate program: What’s the difference?
The NMH postgraduate program positions students to be more competitive in the application process than other options. The placement of our seniors in college and the success of NMH postgraduate alumni give NMH a far stronger brand than a community college option. Our postgraduate program offers a competitive level of college freshman-equivalent courses for advanced students or an extended senior curriculum for those postgraduate students who need a fifth year to develop advanced critical thinking, qualitative analysis, and other academic skills. Our SAT score averages are higher than virtually all community colleges, demonstrating a higher level of enrolled students’ aptitude. One hundred percent of our post graduates move on to a four-year competitive college experience.”
I’m guessing it’s the preference of one’s parents (and whether or not they’re able/willing to commit the finances).
using prep school has fallen out of favor
due to abuse by basketball. The Washington Post and New York Times both had investigative reports revealing a number of prep schools as shames. The NCAA responded by cracking down. Now a prep school is an option only if it meets certain accepted certification standards PLUS the student athlete can only make up one class there.
So, it is only an option if you are one NCAA required academic credit short AND/OR you need to boost your test scores.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jan 13, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
If we could choose how many recruits we wanted this cycle...
(quality recruits, not fillers) how many would we like to take? 20? Cause if so, its not looking like we are going to make it. Also, if we whiff on Goldman, Howard, Peat, and Goodman, on a scale of 1-10 how much do we panic. 1 being very little and 10 being we run in the streets as if Al Gore’s predictions were come true?
i heard 18
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
heard=read
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 12, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
The class we currently have is full of quality. Im not worried a bit as things stand now.
by jenolesone on Jan 13, 2012 12:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree....
we have all sorts of talent but, big holes still. OLine, LB, Corner, and arguably RB. And if we don’t close on NSD, I will start to worry. Now i realize the talent level at some of these positions this year were low, and next year’s class is apparently strong but that does worry me cause it seems like we are putting all our chips in one basket. IMO
FSU won't whiff on Goldman.
I’d really love to have Goodman and Peat But the Noles would be lucky to get just 1 of those 2 right now it seems. I think FSU’s shot with Goldman is more solid than some of the committed recruits. Just that the Bammers are throwing out all this false confidence that makes it appear otherwise.
by zewhitedevil on Jan 13, 2012 7:17 AM EST up reply actions
Only current commit with any doubt is MEJ
So Goldman isnt more of a sure bet then any of our committed guys. And even MEJ has not said he is not a Nole which when he truly isnt still planning on coming here if that happens he will tell the coaching staff.
Goldman is someone that would be nice as a Nole but don’t expect it. Just hope it happens its a flip of a coin basically at this point
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I don' t think its 50/50 at all...maybe 60/40
FSU has been his favorite since his first unofficial.
by zewhitedevil on Jan 17, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
Eddie Goldman and Justin Shanks seem to be good freinds, so I asked Justin personally and although he can't read Eddie's mind his answer was this
;) A simple…wink, which leads me to belive one thing is for sure Justin Shanks is character.
I asked him if he thought Eddie was coming to Fsu
by GatorHater5 on Jan 12, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Personally... like on facebook... or personally cause you're from Alabama?
All I want for NSD is Eddie Goldman...
Spotted at a gas station in Bama
Id love to add Goldman to this DL classj
by jmnpb996 on Jan 13, 2012 7:04 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is the third time I have asked you this, but please hit "reply" when you respond to someone rather than starting a new comment line
Thanks!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 12, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey bro
you mind puttin on some pants? I find it a little weird i have to ask twice……
by HOOSIER NOLE on Jan 13, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You must be new. We all know NT&T doesn't wear pants.
by Nole2005 on Jan 13, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I am new....
but i had a slight suspicion….
by HOOSIER NOLE on Jan 13, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec
For newness.
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Freeballin.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 13, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Heard some talk that Marcus Allen may be back on the FSU radar.
LB for Hilliard
One to watch maybe
NolesRx
I Don't know about Marcus
But I do know that OL Will Allen (2013 class) is visiting FSU
http://www.tampabay.com/hometeam/blog/springstead-ol-will-allen-visiting-fsu/12334/
Marcus Allen is a bit old to be at FSU
I’m pretty sure he’s used up his eligibility by now.
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
I saw Allen play personally this year.
He’s a giant. I was more impressed than I thought I would be by looking at him. But I still don’t think he’s a UF/FSU type player. He does have another year, though to get stronger.
by PullingGuardGator on Jan 13, 2012 8:21 AM EST reply actions
I get the feeling that Nelson Algholor
Isn’t serious at all about FSU and is OVing this weekend to recruit for another school. I understand the kid is a talent but I wish Jimbo and company stopped going after him.
The reason for this is looking at his twitter account when dealing with FSU. First was him tweeting while his dad is asking the FSU guys during an in home visit stupid questions according to him. And the second was a tweet today about how he is kind of excited about coming to FSU. I hope he’s not coming to recruit for UF.
I know FSU hasnt really been a contender for his services but it seems like he clowns FSU and seems to me like a waste of time
by nole your enemy on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Meh, everything I've ever read about him is he's a very stand up, honest, good kid. I really don't see him as the type to recruit against us here.
He’s always impressed me in his interviews and how he’s handled all of it. Very humble, decent kid for an 18 year old.
by jmnpb996 on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
never questioned his character
But I also don’t judge athletes by interviews. People thought Marvin Harrison was a good guy through interviews, not comparing them though.
My thoughts were based upon the kid doesn’t seem to care about FSU, so why continue to recruit him? The other stuff was just thoughts I put out there
by nole your enemy on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I get what you are saying
if he wsa serious about FSU…the word “kinda” would have been absent in his tweet when talking about his excitement level….
Don’t think he will recruit against us while there though.
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by Kelvin Hunt on Jan 13, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
reading too much into one word
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
by stevegrizzle on Jan 13, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
not really
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by Kelvin Hunt on Jan 14, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Eh, I don’t think he’d recruiting for another school.
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It sure would be nice to have
Pender around for this big recruiting weekend. The legend of Mario Pender continues. My ulcers double in size by the day.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I hope you don't have a nervous breakdown
I think he is all Nole, but I would like him to EE. I am more worried about him hanging around Ft. Meyers for 7 months with nothing to do. That leaves the door open for trouble. esp. with a head-case ex. GF still around.
'see da broad ta get tha booty yackum, layem down smackum yackum...ho got ta be.... shiiiiiit!' 'early to bed early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and wise'
I just dont understand why reputable source can get a bead on this thing.
Newberg says its done(Bud says he’s reputable and its legit), but Bud is unable to get the info he needs to feel comfortable saying its done. Pender is MIA. We never hear anything from him. Monday was the end of drop/add, nothing. Wednesday, he allegedly is suppose to start class, nothing. Now per DA-2 we should be worried if he isnt here by this next Monday. I dont know why next Monday is more relevant than anytime last week, but they know more than me. Havent classes been in session for a couple weeks now? I feel like Kevin Steele on game day. None of the other players on the board worry me as they are at least still on the radar. The silence is deafening.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I think it'll be OK dude.
Have a beer, it’s Friday!
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Josh Newberg on twitter
Has said Pender is in. He seems to be very respected in recruiting circles and is usually accurate when reporting these kind of things
by nole your enemy on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
You got your wish...
…you can relax now.
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 13, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Commitments this weekend, or wait til NSD?
Curious what you guys think about this. Will guys announce on Saturday/Sunday, or could the coaches ask them to remain silent and make some kind of splash on NSD?
I think Watson is going to commit this weekend. Or very shortly afterward.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I thought Auburn was leading for him?
Is he an immediate impact guy? One year playing the game, I don’t know…and according to 247Sports he’s only got one year of eligibility left. Not sure what the expectations would be with Watson.
My expectations would just be very quality depth.
And I thought he had 2 years left??
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Auburn just landed an elite OT
The guy that was committed to LSU. He’s enrolled at Auburn now, has to help with Watson.
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by BenDNole on Jan 13, 2012 12:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Per Twitter Kenny Shaw is hosting a recruit this weekend.
Any thoughts on who it may be?
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM EST reply actions
thats nice
talk about early playing time and being MVP of a bowl game against ND.
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One of the one’s on the visitor list at the top of this thread?
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Pretty sure Shaw is hosting Kourtzidis.
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 14, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Tie this in to the Goldman recruiting
Sal Sunseri is leaving to be DC at Tennessee. Pretty sure he was the lead recruiter for Goldman so this might help a little.
by Burghnole36 on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Also saw on the mother ships web site that Goldman will not take his 5th OV and he and his mother is close to making a decision.
It seems like everything that I have read is he is FSUs to lose at this point
by nole your enemy on Jan 13, 2012 12:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
that is outstanding
i really hope u are right! When a person is 50-50 on something all it takes is one thing like this to confirm his decision!
u were right
Just checked with my bama buddy. The bama insiders are saying goldman is FSU along with winston ( we arlready knew on winston tho )
Happy Dance
by Cee on Jan 13, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
happy dance indeed.
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
he's the top OLB
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 14, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone heard anything
On when/if Howard and Goodman decided to take their OV? I know Howard was going to but the date slipped my mind. Goodman I just haven’t heard much about from the time he was on the phone with FSU multiple times per week.
by City_Nole on Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Evan Goodman
The OL we were trying to flip from ASU. It’s been quiet on him recently.
by City_Nole on Jan 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Think he meant Goodman, as an Evan
The OL, not Goldman, as in Eddie, the DT.
Those two guys always get mixed up here, their names are too similar.
by FSUActuary on Jan 13, 2012 12:51 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Goldman
Goldman has 4 schools in his top 4: FSU, Bama, Auburn, UM. Scott from 247 said on twitter that UM is there more out of respect for the coaches after taking an OV, and has no shot. So it’s FSU, Bama, Auburn.
Considering his lead recruiter left Bama to be DC, Auburn just hired a new DC, IMO Goldman is ours to lose.
by jmnpb996 on Jan 13, 2012 12:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Losing a lead recruiter does hurt some
But Suneri was a LB coach not the DL coach. Losing a position coach hurts way more than losing a head recruiter. I don’t think this wraps him up at all, it just helps edge FSU a bit more on the positive.
Guy recruits you all year
and boom moves to another school? position or not, that hurts their chances. His mom said they may announce early as well.
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Is Darby considered a 2 horse race
Between us and Clem$on?
Also – Who have people been saying is the better of the 2: Darby or Leggett? Who do we want more?
Darby in my mind
Don’t believe Leggett will qualify. Second Darby and Bracy on kick returns will be fun to watch.
And running track.
If we land Darby, then that is the 1st one Bracy has taken to the house, in is very young career. If I am not mistaken, Bracy got this ball rolling pretty much all on his own.
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 14, 2012 6:37 AM EST up reply actions
Darby is definitely the better prospect
I’m sure the coaches want him more than leggett.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 13, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I would actually take both of those dude. (hope we have room!)
Darby is hands down the #1 choice, but Leggett has been on fire his senior season.
If that kid gets it together in the classroom, we will be happy we took him back. Not to mention, he probably has some ill-intentions towards our friends down on the tip.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
You got it
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
I will try to get some info on Darby ASAP...
by newdynastynole on Jan 14, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
How fast is Darby?
Anywhere close to Bracy?
by fsufrenzy911 on Jan 15, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Bracy is 10.05 100, darby is like 10.45-10.55 range.
Bracy is elite, darby is getting close to elite. But that is just track speed. Football speed I feel both are elite.
NolesRx
here's a free Rivals piece about Darby's visit to FSU
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1318969
Sounds like he like FSU but he’s in no hurry to decide… he could be post-NSD signee.
Championship!
Isn't a 10.55 what D.M.Pender ran the 100 in?
When ahead never let up. When behind never give up.
It is hard to overestimate how significant the advantage you gain from being underestimated.
by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 16, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
I knew who you meant...
…just like to toss an occasional barb of animus at that DUH University of Miasma…you know.. to kind keep myself game-ready. :)
Totally
Crushing enemies and hearing the lamentation of their women is what it’s all about.
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Concur! Really can’t say enough about…
…the physical machicolation of the body and the absolute evisceration of the spirit of such a loathsome foe!
(breathe s deeply) Ah! Does a man good!
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I express a fecalith
In your general direction!
NoleDoc
See ya later gator hater
In a bowl, Seminole!
Scary/Hilarious rumors out of Knoxville re: Mario Pender.
I’m hearing Mario Pender is OFFICIALLY on his way to Tallahassee and will enroll, done deal.
But Vols fans are telling all kinds of stories about how he was “literally minutes away” from flipping to UT, should his EE not go through.
LOLUNTEERS!
Yes, JWJ/Jernigan are literally minutes away from transfering there too, depending on whether it drops below 32 this weekend or not.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Pender
Done deal. Official with red bows and welcoming committee on hand.
Is this real?
reputable source? Newberg said it earlier in the week but never followed up and it was never put up here at TN.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
No link
Just a trusted source in admissions. But you can check out the headline at Warchant…not content for paid members but the big headline. I hope it’s ok to say that since it’s a headline and not the content that is paid for.
My ulcers are starting to heal.
Do you know at what point an EE cannot transfer? NSD maybe?
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Can transfer whenever he wants, but will have to sit out a year regardless…
by newdynastynole on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
So do EE's officially sign when they EE
or on NSD? I guess what I’m asking is if Glauser, Beatty, or Pender decided to transfer tomorrow, would the regular rules(sitting out a year) apply?
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
So we need to give him aid
……..like now.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
indeed
Now lets keep him around so he doesnt become the next……….whatever that guy’s name is that went to ND after EEing here. UT will do absolutely anything to get him. He could start at any position on either side of the ball for them by the 1st game of the season.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Some DE joker (ND signee) Aaron something...
…forgot his name…became insignificant this year (yes I know his name)
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 13, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
It was actually not Lynch I was thinking of
It was another guy that went to ND. What is the date at which an EE can no longer transfer? NSD?
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
thanks. That was killing me
Did he have to sit out a year for EEing here and transferring there?
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
I think once you attend classes you are subject to NCAA transfer rules and have to sit a year. Prestwood stayed through the Srping game.
or aid.
Unless you petition for hardship (some unusual circumstance, family issue) or school drops the Athletic program you’re participating
I dont think he did have to sit
I thought something about not taking classes and petitioning made him eligible
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pretty sure he applied and was given hardship on account of family illness
tho that wasnt the actual case.
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
WOW
I just read a report from Warchant about pender and no joke if he was going to be denied today from admissions then he was literally going to go to Tenn.
A mod over there aluded to the fact that his family could not support him for a semester up in tally if he didn not early enroll and staying home was not an option because of the whole girlfriend fiasco. He literally would have been going to Tenn cause their admissions got him in.
Wowowowo. im still in shock with this miracle. Good thing Jimbo was doing work and got the president to sign off on it.
by origiNOLEone on Jan 13, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Gives me an idea for a new Tomahawk Nation story:
Just How Close Did the Noles Come to Losing Marks Stoops to Akron?
Souces say: “VERY”
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
this has gotta piss off Auburn fans
Stoops was much more interested in Akron than Auburn… #WarFailEagle
Championship!
That's a great story.
Impossible to prove, yet fluffs content.
Way to go that other site!
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
granted ur right
and i enjoy this site more, i just cant help my endless addiction to FSU football intel..
by origiNOLEone on Jan 13, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Administration office
The admin office for FSU has been a pain for awhile, I hope this puts some emphasis on them get their act together.
yes
Would have liked to see the convo between Jimbo and the school prez…glad to see hes working with us
by origiNOLEone on Jan 13, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Just remember… You want to make sure that the process student-athletes are admitted is a normal process like all students (and be documented as such) so that there isn’t a potential charge of preferential treatment – Athletics hands in Academics. Especially for a school like FSU given the history.
As long as there are no major violations
I for one don’t care.
"If you want to see me, come watch me on Fridays. I play in pads."
-(Future FSU Star) Mario Pender
Mmm…You do long term because if there’s a discrepancy in how they were certified – They’ll pull them to make sure they don’t practice or play a player not eligible. Patience is better served in this case (by FSU, ACC & NCAA) so there’s no snafus long term to avoid the major violation (proof of involvement in circumventing the admission process).
Checks & balances overall are a good thing.
Yeah, I don't tend to bash sites, but it's being posted there doesn't necessarily mean anything.
When in doubt, just ask yourself—
“Did Tennessee fans believe this?”
If they did, it’s probably not true.
Still dont buy that as true
If the problems arose from high school classes and the NCAA it would have been the same. I am still bot sure i believe he was gonna flip and be at UT after all this time 2 days after and changing everything
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Can someone explain to me how we were only able to get 3 kids enrolled early this year (if that's even accurate)?
UF has 6.
I WANT MOAR!!!
;___;
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Jan 13, 2012 2:44 PM EST reply actions
3 EE's is good if you consider the size class we are taking.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
You're right
But I’m so sick of UF getting in all these kids in early. 6/18 for them. And they had 7 until Quinteze got rejected at the last minute.
;___;
by Tubby Sweetbundle on Jan 13, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
you realize how many kids
they lost/got kicked off the team to be able to hand out so many schollies? I think we’re okay.
IMO Beatty is a more important EE than Pender.
Extra time to work on technique, we need a decent punter.
Might be right
Powell sat behind Gano and was a bit shaky at first.
Who's punting?
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by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I like the name 'Punter Kid" better...
…has a ring to it. “In to punt, number 36 Punter Kid”…yep keeper name, IMO..;)
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 13, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
I asked who's punting because FSU will not be needing a punter this year.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
We will not be punting this year.
"I dont hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around." -Bukowski
by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You think EJ's interceptions go up?
Love the optimism though!
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
Beatty is just EEing
to learn the right angle to hold the other towel when building Jimbo’s on the field towel cubicle.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 13, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Punter Kid, Punter Kid, he's our man!....
..if he can do it ANYONE can!
Oh, said that wrong. Oh.
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 13, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Still trying to figure
Bama with 26 showing on Espn, SEC limit is 25, and they looking for more. Guess EE’s play a roll there.
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EE count to previous season
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EEs can count to previous season
it’s not automatic. You’re still limited to 25 per year, so if you enrolled 22 in the previous season and have 5 EEs, 3 count back and 2 count forward.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jan 15, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
Pender
It appears from a lot of these comments, Pender is in? Any confirmation?
I was wondering if...
someone was going to call pb4957 out on that date. He meant 1/13/12
by Buddy Reynolds on Jan 13, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Opinion!
And use the damn reply link.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
-H.L. Mencken
LOL. This is sort of long.
True. All is speculation until he actually shows up in the fall. However one thing I’ll say here just once… All are cognizant of what the other is doing. (“Speculative”, below):
FSU: We’re not recruiting you as a DT contrary to what you’re being told by some, because we’re signing DTs. You’ve seen how we want to use you on film. We want to have posse of DL that wear people out and you can make plays as a DE here.
MEJ: EG, They signing you? What have they been saying to you?
EG: Yeah, they coming after me hard. I like FSU man. Bama gives me a lot to think about.. Putting people on D in pro’s and all. coach and all.
FSU: EG, Look at our track record we put people in the pros on the DL. Look at CJF track record… You don’t have to sit if your good enough. Difference here is you have a chance to building something. Put a historic program back to a championship and always be remembered. There you’re just another guy in a string of guys. They’ll compare you to other players they have. Won’t stand out like here.
EG: True. Don’t like being compared. Want to be my own person. Stand alone.
FSU: Think of it like this – If you’re talented enough to play right away (which you are), you get to play together with a crew of DL and you’ll be known for being your own person not a part of a stable. And..,you’ll be coached by someone you like MEJ (Coach Elliot) and you like EG (Coach Odell) in a program that’s put DL players in the pros (make you better at some things you need to work on)‘. And EG a guy who’s recruited from day 1 and isnt going anywhere.
MEJ & EG: True. Very True.
FSU: You know these guys (Winston, Williams, Bracy, etc), You get to be the class that puts the icing on the cake for a championship. You get to be known for that. There’s no pressure. There really isn’t…But when you put all the pieces, all the facts together…whew.. Seems like a great choice, right? Just think about it, we’ll talk some more later.
EG: All right
MEJ: All right
your young-black-man voice is impressive.
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
by harper.rb on Jan 13, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Teenagers. Can’t live with them. Can’t get the trash taken out or win a Natty without em.
by FSU on Jan 13, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I've tried to get my toddlers to do it. Doesn't work.
Trash, that is.
(I don’t drink Natty and wouldn’t consider acquiring one a “win”).
Just for the record, I have never at any point actually tried to give them chores.
As for toys, mine pick them up and then SMASH them onto my hardwood floors. Metal trains and the like.
I didn’t want to resell the house anyway.
Then why have kids?
I got one of each for the yard, the trash, and the bathroom.
You called?
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by Nattylite on Jan 13, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just found out Leggett is no longer a UM commit and is choosing between Marshall, Neb and FSU
Any chance we take him back?
"Nick Cage..."
From reading ^ above ^
people are less enthusiastic with the Darby opportunity.
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
I think he'll succeed whereever he goes.
probably more-so if not FSU, just to spite me.
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
Not sure why I didn't see that.
I was positive I looked through it all. Oh well.
"Nick Cage..."
by RoyalOaksNole on Jan 13, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
RB Mike Davis has committed to South Carolina
Predicted this a while ago, he is a great fit in Spurrier’s scheme.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions
Damn.
Think they’ll go after 2 or 3 rbs for 2013?
by Tony Mustian on Jan 14, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
1 NFL phenom RB and 1 NFL phenom WR
a head case QB, and sold OL
A simple uograde in scheme
to say that plus 4 OL and 4 DL NFL types, then you got something.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
Goldman
One of the Alabama insiders is saying he’s going to Maryland.
not happening
they were cool to him when they beat UM wearing ugly uniforms. Then that passed
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Goldman and his family are on record
that he will go to either Bama, Auburm, FSU or Miami and will not take his 4th OV…
by newdynastynole on Jan 14, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
This being said
I do not doubt Locksley being able to pull a local kid…
by newdynastynole on Jan 14, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
So just how solid is Shanks
I see he is visiting USC on the 27th. Goldman has said he would like to play with him. I am not aware of Goldman considering USC. So is Shanks solid and doing the typical free trip to Cali since if hes not staying in state I dont see USC popping up suddenly, or has he had other ideas, been very quiet with news on him so didn’t really think he wasnt solid. Free Cali trip?
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Probably, Fisher lets his guys take all their visits.
There is talk that Eligwe is visiting Cal next weekend too.
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
christo and him are boys, probably going together?
this would benefit us imo. keep his (christo) mind on FSU
NolesRx
Yeah, they'll be there together.
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
i follow shanks on twitter
he said the other day that he can’t wait for Feb 1st. #GONOLES. Seems to be a lock
Mario Pender photo
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=150707818287307&set=a.150707731620649.26442.100000442703541&type=3&theater
Open link to see photo of Mario (in the center). Allegedly made recent poor choices (assaulted girlfriend & “borrowed” her car without permission). He’s a GREAT football talent. Hope FSU can provide needed guidance & mentoring.
Who is Mike Dumas & why is he holding up the (305) sign in Ft Myers?
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"I know what you're scared of.... Its comin' BANK ON IT!"
-CoachColey
"FSU can't beat Oklahoma,Clemson and the refs. I rarely harp this much on officiating, but they were truly brutal. Protectionism at its finest." BUD-ice
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It's pronounced "Doo-mahs"
Great commercial
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Reminds me of the old SNL baby naming sketch with Nicolas Cage as Asswipe Johnson (pronounced, Os-Wee-Pay Johnson): http://snltranscripts.jt.org/92/92ababynames.phtml
I was really hoping that site would have a transcript of my all time favorite skit
Attack of the Masturbating Zombies.
(season 15 with Robert Wagner).
Only saw it once and it was pretty awkward because my Grandpa was in the room. Laughter suppression was next to impossible.
#WellPlayedSir
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i think we just picked up a commitment.
Coach cooley tweeted for the first time in a long time. He said, “where there’s a WILL there’s a WAY.” I haven’t broke the code yet
by Cjones6121 on Jan 14, 2012 8:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm thinking it could be...
Leonard Williams (pray) or Will Holden (OL commit to Vandy…3 star from Florida)
by FSUNOLES90210 on Jan 14, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Latu plays Juco ball in CA
Which is Coley’s territory
wait...
what isn’t in Coley’s territory?
Am I the meanest? Am I the prettiest? Am I the baddest mofo low down around this town? Well who am I? Who am I?
I can't hear you..
by STAquinasNole on Jan 14, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Decaf expresso.
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"slow and steady wins the race."
A hatch opened up and the aliens said, "We're sorry to learn that you soon will be dead, but though you may find this slightly macabre, we prefer your extinction to the loss of our job."
I wish there was a way to decipher what he says... but sometimes it's impossible to know
All I want for NSD is Eddie Goldman...
Please be Williams man that would be incredible
Or hell, let it be both!
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
He's a UGA silent
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Good work NT&T
I know that, thanks. I figure anybody who has been reading these threads for 15 minutes would know that. I just figured, since we are trying to decipher Coley’s tweets again, that I would “wow” you with some creativity and “out-of-the-box” thinking.
I’ll be sure to use the “orphan annie secret de-coder ring” the next time Coley’s tweets get mentioned again. I’m still hoping to pull JHC, even though I have thought forever that he stays in GA.
Dont forget to drink your Ovaltine!!
Not sure if serious
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Not necessarily
most think he sticks. He’s been recruiting for FSU, and has also stated recently that he’s still committed. I’m not expert, but we did just have two schoolies open up.
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
MEJ is solid,like Oak.
Lifes a SPEAR then U TRIBE!!!!!
"We Are FLORIDA STATE!!!!"
"I know what you're scared of.... Its comin' BANK ON IT!"
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"FSU can't beat Oklahoma,Clemson and the refs. I rarely harp this much on officiating, but they were truly brutal. Protectionism at its finest." BUD-ice
Tell em Jerry
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AJ Leggett....
Something is really telling me that we’re going to land him. I hope we do because he is probably the hardest hitting cornerback in Florida and he has very good ball skills. If we pull Leggett and Darby, to go along w/ Williams; that’s a trio I would be very excited about going into the future with.
I thought he didnt qualify to get into UM?
by newdynastynole on Jan 14, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
He didn't
and supposedly is limited in the places he would qualify, he is more than likely a sign and place if we want to burn a scholly and land him. Don’t see us taking Williams, which for some reason everyone think its a given he would come here if we want him. Darby is the homerun.
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Stated he is announcing on signing day
Purely my opinion or guess, but I suspect FSU told him they want to hear back from Darby/Howard first and would only accept his commit if we whiff on either or both. Therefore, if there is no room in the class for him, he declares for Marshall. Purely speculation, but makes sense to me.
This makes sense
I wouldn’t want to take Leggett until we secured Howard and/or Darby
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 14, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
TeamNoles
Can’t wait 2 see what recruits decide to wear the Garnett and Gold….bcs here we come
Not at all
USC has limited schollie’s and still trying to reel Ellis McCarthy back in from Cal. Shanks would be a backup plan for them
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 14, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Hell of a game for them to see!!!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hope they charged
What a great game to go to
by LetsGoNoles on Jan 14, 2012 4:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How did all the visits go yesterday?
Did any of them say anything about it?
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 14, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Usually don't hear anything until Sunday
Patience….
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'm think that maguire really can talk to some players this weekend.
He is a great example of committing to a school even with ours at your same position. Don’t be scared on competition. @ LWilliams!
NolesRx
My projected class as of 1/14 would be...
Cason Beatty (EE)
Daniel Glauser(EE)
Mario Pender(EE)
Roberto Aguayo
Marvin Bracy
Chris Casher
Mario Edwards Jr,
Ukeme Eligwe
Dante Fowler Jr.
Christo Kourtzidis
Sean Maguire
Justin Shanks
Dalvon Stuckey
P.J. Williams
Jameis Winston
Eddie Goldman
Ronald Darby
Amos Leggett (Sign and Place)
Will Latu
Evan Goodman
Nelson Agholor
by GatorHater5 on Jan 14, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Evan goodman?
Haven’t heard much about him in a while doesn’t seem like people think we will land him, so why did u put him on there just pure speculation?
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 14, 2012 5:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I say we get Goodman becuse I don't know how he feels about the new coach at Arizona State and the only other team I Feel he is considering is Arkansas which is also a possibility.
With Nelson Agholor I belive he loving the attention he is getting at Fsu and I feel every year there is a shocker on NSD and he will be it.
Any chance we sign and place Lavatiae Kelly?
I’d like to see that kid in G&G
Agholor seems to be getting close with Ukeme Eligwe..
Nelson, Ukeme, & Christo have been interacting a lot via twitter & Nelson has also been talking with Deion Sanders and Jameis Winston on there.
No three musketeers' motto..
He did refer to Ukeme as his “African Brother” though here is the tweet. —→ “Had a great weekend at FSU with my African brother @MarkussEligwe” – Nelson Agholor via Twitter
Will Latu isn't going to qualify for an ACC or SEC team.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Are you calling James a liar?
he cut you mang
That fact that I'm paranoid doesn't mean that there isn't a conspiracy against us
by stevegrizzle on Jan 14, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Agholor is not going to be a Seminole.
It just isn’t going to happen.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Agholor, Darby, Latu, Watson
Agreed. Agholor will be a Gator come NDS imo. I think its down between Florida and Notre Dame. Sorry about the post earlier about Will Latu, I didnt know and was unware of his qualifications etc. Darby, Watson I believe we will land both of them
Projected class:
1. Beatty
2. Aguayo
3. Glauser
4. Sean
5. Bracy
6. Christo
7. Winston
8. Pj
9. Markuss
10. Shanks
11. Edwards
12. Casher
13. Fowler
14. Pender
15. Stuckey
16. Goldman
17. Darby
18. Northrup
19. Watson
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 14, 2012 6:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I like it also
I would like to add Leonard Williams and NA
Mario Edwards
Jameis Winston
Chris Casher
Mario Pender
Dante Fowler Jr.
Marvin Bracy
Justin Shanks
Ukeme Eligwe
P.J. Williams
Sean Maguire
Dalvon Stuckey
Christo Kourtzidis
Roberto Aguayo
Cason Beatty
Daniel Glauser
Ronald Darby
Eddie Goldman
Reggie Northrup
Leonard Williams
Nelson Agholor
Menelik Watson
agreed, anyone got info on Avery Young? OT out of palm beach gardens?
I would be really happy with the class if we can get some OL love…
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 15, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Round Ball Recruiting
The basketball game vs NC was great and just got home. Did any of the football visitors attend the game? Coach Fisher and family were there and the basketball team played lights out.
Recruits were there
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
OV yep
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not Blake. Think he sticks with TAMU
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
I posted my mock and other guesses at the top of the page btw in case you're interested
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 14, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
This is who I think might commit this weekend.
#justahunch
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 15, 2012 2:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Would be very surprised
I think Watson or Darby is much more likely
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I know typically we don't hear anything until Sunday on commits...but any one hear how the visits went?
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 14, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions
On twitter
Slot of the guys Sounded like they were Havin fun at the bbl game
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think TheRenegad had slot more fun.
by Nole2005 on Jan 14, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Seriously it was just a typo
It’s not a big deal
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 14, 2012 11:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i thought your schlur was sffecting you typing... :)
"What kind of addicting substance has Jimbo spiked the Tally water with?
It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 14, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
The BBall game must have been fantastic for the recruits.
ESPN Game Day was there, (was this a first for the Noles?); FSU takes UNC by 33 points, (has to be a first for the Noles); and the fans went wild (per TN). The statistics guys at TN could probably do a standard deviation and a chi squared thing or whatever voodoo that they do, on the chances of all of that happening concurrently with a big OV visit, and come to the conclusion that this is Kismet, within a reasonable degree of statistical probability.
New target?
apparently we have another OL target … in 2013 in Michigan OG David Dawson per wolverinenation at espn anybody have any info on him
Like 6'5 305 pounds
Lol that’s all I know
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 15, 2012 8:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You sure he's not the David Dawson of Houston TX?
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
im sure
i was scanning espn to see if they had any free articles about our commits (eddie goldman too) not a thing but this was on the news feed here
JAN 14
11:43
AM ET
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Class of 2013 offensive guard David Dawson (Detroit, Mich./Cass Technical) has picked up an offer from Florida State, Tom VanHaaren of ESPN’s WolverineNation.com reports.
There is also a David Dawson of Cyprus Ridge in Houston, TX that has an offer from us
6’5 300. That’s messed up! Has an offer from us and Eastern Michigan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcw6izmidaY
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
wow
They are both flipping huge for juniors thanks for the info gtg to work will check it out after thanks again
by afnole on Jan 15, 2012 10:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
They are the same guy...
David Dawson of Cyprus Ridge in Houston, formerly of Cass Tech in Michigan.
by Noles Fan in ND on Jan 15, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I was assuming, but I had no clue if he moved from Michigan
or moved from Texas. Either way, the guy moves very well with his size. Seems like a good project.
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
Agreed
hes a very nice project if we get him. after watching his video I like his pass blocking a lot more than his run blocking however. he tends to get ahead of himself an let him upper body do all the work when the legs should be driving him through and opponent but he has a great donkey kick and does sit well in pass pro.
Ronald Darby
This guy has speed that is so important, apparently it is more straight line speed. As he didn’t do as well in the shuttle, comparatively to his 40 time of 4.31. It could be that he hasn’t practiced the shuttle, it can be a little tricky to get a good time?
However, we need some pure speed and he has it. He and Bracy could give us that element.
Very interesting
He is spending almost equal time with Football and Track on his visit, think that’s a huge positive for us.
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Even if you’re making this up (again, I ask the ether, where do these people come up with this stuff?), I dig the sound of it.
Drrby
Solid if you are referring to my comments
ESPN on their 150 he is #69 and shows his 40 time as being the best at 4.31 and his 20 yd shuttle as 4.28 compared to best time of 3.80. Shows his straight ahead speed is better than his speed in the Shuttle, comparatively.
Per the indentation,
Solid was replying to Ocala.
For sure, though I thank you, rspknole1.
I marvel at/respect/appreciate the “sourcing” of the information on this site. I am an informational bug compared to some of these cheetahs.
Honestly, the shuttle is more about technique than anything
I’ve seen no where near elite athletes run sub 4.00 shuttles after going to a speed school and learning the technique. So a track guy like Darby I doubt he has done much training for something as insignificant as the 20 yd shuttle
Leonard Williams
Now that Edwards has grown into at least a hybrid DT, and we have two Weakside DE’s in Casher and Fowler. It seems we need a Strongside DE and I just have a great feeling that Leonard Williams is going to be something special.
I really hope we can get him into this class.
I know that having 3 DEs is a lot, but this young man is special, and I feel like to re-enforce our DE depth, taking this kid, and giving him a chance to compete and push the others would make our DE that much better. We did just have two scholarships open up…..
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted!"
He’s low emission.
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by RollNole5 on Jan 15, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hybrid DT
I mean that at 6’4" 297 lbs he is not going to be quick enough to play DE on obvious pass plays, however, in watching the UA game, he clearly is good enough athlete to play. I am assuming that he if he plays DE it will be on obvious run plays, where he will be more of a DT.
I highly doubt we will ever see MEJ playing on the inside unless it's obvious passing situations
He will slim down and he will be quick enough to set the edge
FSU wants him as a defensive end, and he has a good bit of baby fat he can lose. It’s not all about pass rush, but pass push.
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by Bud Elliott on Jan 15, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Melvin Ingram...
is who MEJ reminds me of. super athletic for his size and the skill to play inside/out. agree with Bud that he will be a DE on 1st and 2nd down, and will move inside in passing situations to put another pass rusher on the field much like uscE did this year with clowner, taylor and ingram inside at times.
MEJ is playing Strongside DE for us
He won’t be playing any DT (except maybe in special pass rush packages?) I believe the issue with taking Williams who by all means is phenomenal is that it will drastically hurt DE recruiting the next year or two with taking 4 DE’s in one class to go along with our already stacked DL
by swag surfin on Jan 15, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know if we are recruiting any of the DL to potentially play OL?
At least I have Chicken!
-Leeroy Jenkins
Not that I'm aware of
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
It's Sunday...I NEED recruiting updates!
I’ve been waiting all week for this!
Patience is a Virtue!!!!
3 weeks or so till NSD!!! Most of the uncommitted targets that still on our board, likely wont be commiting or signing until NSD!!!! If anyone committs to us before NSD, I would say in my opinion that it would be either OL Will Latu (JUCO) or Menelik Watson also a JUCO Olineman!!! My prediction is that come NSD FSU will sign 21!!!!
Again, Latu can't qualify at FSU
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not really getting what your trying to put across...
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by harper.rb on Jan 15, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
agreed
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 15, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Sssshhhhhhhhh
Don’t tell anyone
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
He's saying Latu is a lock
I think
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 15, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
that is an impressive number of exclamation points...
in four sentences, my ears are hurting!
FYI
I played golf with an Alabama grad assistant this weekend and he said three things that made me smile. He is responsible for film review and transportation of recruits. Which led to some interesting stories. (Especially about Clowney last year)
1) We in his opinion should sign Goldman. That he is ours to lose!
2) That Dameyune Craig is pissing Saban off in mobile and is killing them down south.
3) That Timmy Jernigan was their #1 recruit target last year.
by imissrix on Jan 15, 2012 10:20 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Good stuff,
the Clowney stuff is over and done with: no reason to hold it back now.
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Who do I talk to about $$$?
He was on the way to the airport and he asked, “Who do I talk to about getting some money? Everyone has told me about money. I don’t have a cell phone and I really want one!”
Looks like SC had a hookup at Verizon!
#1 and 2 are pretty common knowledge
- is cool, but TJ was in most people top 3
Thanks for the info though!
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good thing truth isn't predicated upon belief.
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It’s this new thing going around campus lately-I think it’s known by the term…"winning". I hear it’s really addictive and the real hardcore victory junkies can smell it from all the way across the nation."
by SmoothCrimiNole on Jan 15, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Good stuff imissrix
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Taylor taking up that Mount Cody role is why I feel Goldman comes to FSU.
I know Goldman would be playing next to Taylor on the DL but in our system, he’ll be playing next to Jernigan and Shanks – 2 guys he is close friends with.
I have not heard of any connection between Goldman and Taylor. Plus, Taylor is a project whereas our DT are ready, willing, and able.
by GermDaveNole on Jan 15, 2012 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Taylor went to UA on an unofficial
This was a few weeks after he committed to us and told Saban , “Alright I will go to UA instead of FSU.” They said hold your horses we will see if we have room. Probably confirmed Goldman was coming to FSU and then took him.
How much does our win over, no, destruction of UNC
Sway the undecided football recruits that were in attendance?
Roses are red, Violets are blue, If it wears orange, Kill it.
I think he is more referring to the electric atmosphere at the Tuck yesterday.
I couln’t have hurt.
I'm a junior at FSU
I go to every home football and basketball games. Road football games and bowl games as well. Yesterday’s atmosphere was so hard to explain. But basically it was one of my proudest FSU moments.
/Syracuse lands #8 football recruiting class in nation
o.0
If all sports fandom is a form of emotional gambling, football is poker and hockey is Russian roulette.
Am I the only one that's anxiously awaiting the results of the OVs this weekend?
Man, recruiting is like a drug. I need to leave this alone.
by FSUActuary on Jan 15, 2012 12:48 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I KNOW!
It’s like your level 22 rogue warrior single-handedly killing a white acid dragon in D&D v1.1275 and being on pins and needles to find out if there was a Ring of Invisibility in its treasure stash! Please, Arnokus the Omnipotent, give us something good! (Seriously, I’m jacked, too.)
by SolidNole on Jan 15, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
You scare me
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat"
by Blue Horseshoe on Jan 15, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Mr. Solid, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no updates, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by nolefansam on Jan 15, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Indubitably.
Re the blessings of God, we’ll have to defer to DocHoliday2 to find out if that’s even possible.
Somebody out there
understands this, and is playing the air guitar in celebration.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 15, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Come on people
we need some comits or at least some good news and info. Waiting is killing us.
Waiting is the hardest part.
I keep refreshing but no updates
Tom Petty is great!
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Gainesville
Now there is the best guy to ever come out of Gainesville
RWHUGHESJR
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: I'm looking for one brave Gators fan to call, just one. Oh so Gators fans talk trash all the time but when they play a game and lose nobody has the guts to call in?
Leonard: What are Gators?
Henry Desalvo: Football. College.
Confused Sports Radio Call In: I'm a Gators fan.
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: And what do you have to say?
Confused Sports Radio Call In: You said that Gators fans don't have the guts to call in.
Annoyed Sports Radio Host: Your point?
Confused Sports Radio Call In: My point is that I'm calling you now.
Leonard: [notices Snake and Eddie escorting Arthur wearing dark-colored pantyhose on their head] Is that him?
Henry Desalvo: I think we got Gator fans.
Oh, I'm sure there are a lot of good ones that come out of Gainesville
It’s the ones that stay you have to worry about…
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Shanks isn't going anywhere but Tallahassee.
His official to FSU is set for next weekend.
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You should be seriously concerned about yourself if believe Vol fans when it comes to recruiting
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
My "you" was more of a general statement than a reply :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I am from Tennessee so i know what i get from them just thought it was funny to share
by ttubasketball on Jan 15, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I live very close to knoxville so I started
following their blogs and I must say you couldnt be more right. Their recruiting information is absolute garbage. The volnation site is an embarrassment. You can barely get any real info from any vol site except the sb nation one.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 16, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
you're both wrong..
JWJ once he transfers.#Tennesseefansaremorefunthanadrunkchickonamechanicalbull
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
I'm sure the vols pumped Shanks with
you’ll-never-see-the-field propaganda, and handed him a blown-up 3-deep of our DT depth chart.
Championship!
It could happen. Tennessee offers immediate PT. FSU cannot. Really depends on what he wants. That said, Vol fans think they will get everyone.
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Coincidentally
I’m in Knoxville right now and today was a beautifully clear day, but it still has that faint winter gloom that latitudes north of, say, Savannah, have this time of year. Perhaps, no, probably that’s just me, having grown up in Central Florida. But, there’s no question, I’ll play south of the FL/GA border if I end up getting special dispensation from the NCAA — since I graduated in the late 80s — and D1 scholarships.
lots of deciduous trees in that area?
I’m from Tallahassee, living in MD/DC area now. But man, its a big change not have a 1000 evergreens everywhere during winter. Looks like “The Road” movie.
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Some. Lots of conifers, too, though. The Smokies have lots of deciduous trees nearby. I just want someone to turn the lights fully on outside and would consider that as a recruit. Still, the Smokies are pretty daggum’ kick butt for hiking.
yeah figgured the hills would have some green, hopefully not eyes.
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by harper.rb on Jan 15, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec for The Hills Have Eyes reference.
by CrimiNole Defense on Jan 16, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
If that happened
doesnt Goldman want to play with shanks? Tell me tennessee has no chance with Goldman please.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 16, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Tell you what, my fingers are crossed that FSU can convince Leonard Williams to join the class
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions
Not sure how much this idea has been tossed around, but if Leonard Williams wants to commit ..
Could Fowler take on Mike or Jack LB from his first days at FSU? In a 4-3, I don’t know how often one starts at Jack. Seems as though most grow into that role later in their career.
247Sports lists him at 258# which would be a monster college linebacker once he packs on more solid weight.
Thoughts?
Bama's starting linebackers were 242, 245, 260, & 265 Lbs.
I would think that Casher would play LB instead of Fowler.
no way!
both are way to good with their hand on the ground to move to LB. Rotate em all to keep em fresh and hit the trail hard next year with a loaded LB class.
by FieldGeneral on Jan 15, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for clarification... hence the 3 we both noted for LBs.
Sometimes FSU plays Brandon Jenkins (a DE) like a Jack LB and stands him up. My question was if Fowler could take on that role now and not wait until he has to start impressing NFL scouts because he’s undersized before the draft. That would make it more enticing to bring in Leonard Williams who HAS to play on the line and is phenomenal. Plus, FSU could use more LBs, no?
When Fowler leaves FSU
he definitely will not be undersized.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 15, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
He has a huge lower body and I'm sure he could become huge.
The logjam at DE is the thing I’m considering here. 4 league-quality DEs in one recruiting year creates an issue in recruiting later like we might see with last year’s large OL class vs a potentially tiny one this year. Just thinking out loud.
Me thinks it will work out. Actually recruiting L. Williams harder now with the 2 scholarship openings.
I think she means we're recruiting him harder now.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 15, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I understand now.
When someone says “actually” I expect something counter-intuitive to follow. The word “actually” threw me off a little, but now I see the light.
MEJ, DFJ, CC, ?
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 15, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Oh okay, gotcha
It could present the problem you suggest. However, I would suggest it would be the best problem any team could ever have.
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 15, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Great for the team to reload every year vs rebuild after a BCS run. Worse for the recruits seeing where they fit into playing time. The playing time is there if you’re excellent, but so many 18 year old want to know they will start 3+ years.
It’s selling … The best player gets to play.
Coaches can point to Jernigan and say – He got to play because as a Freshman. Not as much as a seniority system as in the past. Coaches also will talk about situational substitions and rotations
If I were the coaches, I’d push it like this:
Yes, we are stacked on the defensive line. You are right to see this. BUT, this isn’t a bad thing and let me tell you why. First, you are competing for playing time with the best. This is going to make you practice harder than you ever have before, and you will be more prepared for the league. Second, you play if you can earn it. We don’t play favorites and everyone will get rotated in if they are healthy. Rotation is important because when your turn comes up in the rotation you are fresh and not fatigued. You will make better plays per snaps than if you played all game. This allows highlight film to contain more highlights than poor play. Third, we are trying to make a NC run in 2012. You want in? Everyone will talk about FSU and give us national attention. They are going to talk about the defensive line as the reason behind our success. Your names will come up as future stars to carry the load and bring FSU back to continued success – our guys have already proven how good Elliot and Haggins are. Join the rise!
by SimaNole on Jan 16, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Red Shirting
I haven’t seen anyone mention red shirting. Are any of these four willing to or need to red shirt? This would put some space between them. Just a thought.
by jmole on Jan 15, 2012 6:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't see a log jam at DE
we only return 4 DEs with playing experience (Werner, Jenkins, Hicks, Carradine) and 2 are seniors (Jenkins, Carradine). There may be a log jam for one year—2012 w 9 DEs with L. Williams—but in 2013 there will only be 7. Eliot likes to rotate DEs, and it will be nice to have the option to rotate 3 on each side instead of being forced to rotate only 2 on each side. Also prudent to figure in injuries, attrition and just players that don’t develop.
Championship!
The comment was about logjam in the context of recruiting future years, like 2013 and beyond
9 in 2012 as you mentioned. If we bring in 2 in 2013, we are back at nine again and only 2 can see the filed at any time. Naturally, there are guys leaving school early, guys who do not pan out, get injured or whatever. Add just a little attrition due to early graduation and injuries and such and I agree with you on one hand, but on the other top recruits like PT and its difficult to get that if there are 7 or 8 other guys who were highly rated already in the pipeline. So the question is: how do you sell and recruit top guys in 2013 and beyond when you’re already loaded? Answer: same thing Saban does. INvite them to play for a top D noted for sending guys to the league.
Since FSU plays a 4-3 the vast majority of the time
the idea of “occasionally” standing up Fowler would not really change the mind of Leonard Williams. If you’re saying maybe Fowler can be a 4-3 LB then maybe there is a valid point to be made.
Poor choice of words... but he does play there.
Honest question: I wonder how many snaps he really does play standing up.
More this year than year before.
Aspect of that ‘mutiple’ aspect that could do in year 2 rather than in year 1 just learning
I think DKN did some work on that during the year
You should be able to look up some of his fanposts and fanshots
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by freshcollegeboy on Jan 15, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yet rarely are they named...
Sam, Mike or Will. So the system is flawed from the start.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
There's no Jack in a 4-3 alignment
Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.
by AMFKNole on Jan 15, 2012 4:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Of course landing Fowler and Williams together would be the ideal case
But if I can choose one or the other, I’m taking Williams. Probably against the grain of many others here but IMO, here’s how I would rank the DEs:
Casher (I’ve said all along that I think he will be the gem of this entire class with Pender 2nd)
Edwards
Williams
Fowler
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
hah, well you half answered my question as I was posting.
pick some lotto numbers why dont you
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Surprised on your opinion of Fowler.
I’ve seen a lot where people think he should or could still be a 5 star DE. I guess you don’t have him that high on your board.
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Scout and 247 have him as a 5 star.
He may be a consensus 5 star when rivals and ESPN release their final player rankings
Talent wise, he can play like a 5 star if he wants to
But will he always choose to play his hardest in college? I don’t know.
No doubt in my mind that Williams will push himself 110% every day to become better, wherever he ends up.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
curiosity
Why?
I dropped off recruiting just after the season started, but I remember Williams be (easily) the 4th best option with our current crop.
Has his stock improved so much that he’s “the best on the board” to bring in drafting terms (viable recruiting option). Otherwise, I feel like we could balance out the class a bit more to fit team needs.
IDK, been out of the loop and interested to the rationale.
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Ive always read that the coaches are very high on Williams and have been since he camped at FSU.
I think at this point the coaches have a good idea of the players left on our board that we’ll pull and which ones are almost assured to be going elsewhere. I believe that using what they know a spot is open to take the best player available after all is said and done and I think its Williams. Just my opinion.
by jenolesone on Jan 15, 2012 6:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't want to bash a FSU verbal so I'll keep quiet on all the reasons, sorry for the vague reply
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
He has a ton of potential and is already very good. Blew me away at Under Armour practices.
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good to know. Then I'm on board with NT&T
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Agreed
and I’m tired of rumors that guys like MEJ, DFJ & Casher are worried about competition.
Championship!
Agreed. You can see it is a huge advantage towards improving one's game to compete with the best.
I thought our upperclassmen were proof of that as all of them seemed to improve a noticeable amount since we started bringing in young elite talent. Even guys who seemed to have reached their ceiling like G5 and Bradham looked much better this year and I’m convinced being surrounded by CJ7, XR27, Harris, Joyner, etc had a lot to do with that.
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by cerebralfish on Jan 16, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
With a small OL class coming in this year how many will we take next year?
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 15, 2012 5:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
at least one
SHANKS’ classmate who has already committed.
by Wild@Heart Nole on Jan 15, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
To me 3-5 is the ideal OL size (HS OL) in every class
hopefully we will be able to implement such starting in 2013 (i.e. average 4 HS OL a year).
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Per Dante Fowler's facebook page....
“Leaving tally.. Feel REAL good about the visit. Im getting #16 soo fsu fans make sure yall remember dat lol”. Taking Chris Weinke’s number? He better be good lol
He also had this to say in response to the question "where you able to say Leonard Williams"
“Why would i sway leonard when we alredy got 3 d-ends? Outta me mario and chris thats good enough”
I guess so.
Just not the response I would have liked to hear. Makes me wonder if he will flip if Williams commits
Yeah, this comment strikes me as really odd.
by NoleadgeIsPower on Jan 15, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Typical Dante response
No one should be surprised by this.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Weinke's jersey is honored
but the number isn’t removed from playing again.
see Chris Rix
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from Seminoles.com
“FSU, … began retiring jersey’s rather than taking numbers out of circulation in the mid 1990s..”
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
Wasnt that Mister's number too?
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by cerebralfish on Jan 16, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
Al Golden won't let his committed players take visits
Sorry Duke no free dinners for Golden boys
Championship!
This will 100% come back and bite Golden...
Florida is NOT Texas.
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Like he ever has to worry about Duke going elsewhere
Kid would recruiting for Miami 24/7
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
The Weekend
I am “reading” a big buzz on non-pay sites that this weekend was VERY VERY good for us! I am dying to hear more!
Seminole football is not a passion it is an obsession for the die-hards!
Yep, great weekend
The top priority for this weekend was firming up our current verbals
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
so all we did was firm up our verbals this weekend?
I was hoping for a little more than that
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 16, 2012 3:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2013 DT Keith Bryant commits to Miami
I think FSU was one of his few offers. Nice pick up for Miami.
Championship!
Keith Bryant
This is very good year in South Florida, so Miami will have a top class.
by Oort Cloud Nole on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Nice Junior Day wknd for them, they also flipped Jayron Kearse from Auburn (2013 WR) and snagged Alex Collins from Plantation HS (2013 RB).
They had a very good weekend down there.
They must have got a new benefactor down there
Jayron always struck me as odd picking Auburn when he did. I bet he flips again before 2013 signing day.
by SeminoleDynastyMP on Jan 15, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Given looming sanctions, Miami is doing really well
Perhaps they know that the sanctions won’t be bad?
(I don’t mean to turn this into a discussion on UM,,,,, just wondering how Golden is doing so well in spite of….)
Sanctions probably won't be as bad as most would think
Even so, Golden can offer plenty of playing time. Miami can give them the magician act. Plenty of time for other teams to recruit these players and show them what’s really under the hood.
by SeminoleDynastyMP on Jan 15, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Getting completely dismantled on the field in 2012 won't help. Add in OVs and more focused recruiting - I'm taking a wait'n'see appraoch with them.
Not worried about them taking guys Jimbo wants.
Dont think that'll be the case for at least a few more years.
Miami will have enough staunch fans to still bring in a good class, especially when the talent is up – like it is now.
Because they are in the ACC, i still think Miami can put together some nice seasons with quality coaching (something they haven’t really had in a while). The biggest limitation to Miami and their money deficiency is coaching talent retainage; not unlike FSU, but worse. First, they have to rely on unproven coaches, and then if they turn out any good, they;ll be picked off, rather than pulling a Clemson (Malzan) or Bama (Smart), or FSU (Stoops).
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meant Morris for Clemson,
obviously not Malzahn
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harper.rb
I dig reading your posts. They’re almost always insightful. To me, anyway (not too difficult!).
Harper is a great poster fo sho
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
As is FSU :)
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
They received a VERY large gift to endow football scholarships not too long ago.
$4 million if memory serves. And the gift was specifically to endow football scholarships. That’s strong.
http://www.miami.edu/index.php/news/releases/um_athletics_receives_42_million_gift/
Here it is. $4.2 million just for football.
Yep. It helps. They’re also hopeful for renegotiated TV contract as well. But need more cash … The one downfall of being a private school
FSU, you're very knowledgable about this sort of thing. I seem to recall $50k
As being the amount needed to endow one football scholarship. If that’s true, then the $4.2 million would endow the entire team (84 ships). Does that sound right?
$50K varies from school to school because of cost of attendance. Think of it this way, essential an Athletic department “writes a check” to the institution just like a normal student does when they’re paying their tuition.
I got ya. Thanks.
I believe the $50k figure was for Florida State. It’s undoubtedly MUCH higher at UM unless they have some sort of sliding scale,
Actually to fully endow a scholarship (athletically or academically) it takes around $500k. Endowments typically pay off approximately 4% off of the initial investment each year. This means it takes about 500k to give off about 20k.
Many schools do begin their endowment programs at lower “levels” because it’s makes it easier to fundraise the complete number to endow all scholarships (more people able to make gifts).
That wouldn’t make sense. Miami had a donor that said I’ll foot the scholarship bill for one year and then that’s it? If I were Miami I would rather “endow” about 8 or 9 full scholarships for perpetuity.
No, Im assuming he means that’s what the output cost for tuition for one year would roughly be $50k at the back end (that’s what you’d have to have) not the amount you have to raise and then pull of the investment percentage off the front end.
Sailor Nole: Here’s a good link about endowments and scholarship costs from Seminole Boosters. Doesn’t answer your Miami question but does give good insight. A fully endowed scholarship at FSU for Football costs about $750k
I think Miami is about to be crushed.
Like, 3 or 4 year bowl ban, 1 year TV ban, 40-50 scholarships bad.
by Widespread Seminole on Jan 15, 2012 9:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The NCAA just hit Ohio State with a 1 year bowl ban and 9 scholarships over 3 years – and that’s a situation where the head coach literally knew what was going on and knowingly played ineligible players. As much as people spoke to Yahoo about Miami, my guess is that many will conveniently clam up when it comes to the NCAA (and my recollection is that Miami just settled with the trustee handling the Shapiro mess which means they’ll avoid people getting subpoenaed and forced to offer testimony under oath).
It’s been two decades since the NCAA imposed a TV ban on a major program. They didn’t even put Alabama on a TV ban in 2002 when the NCAA folks were saying the violations were some of the worst they had ever season. I’d be shocked to see a TV ban happening short of video of Donna Shalala herself literally handing wads of cash to recruits and turning to the camera and saying. “@#$% you, NCAA!”
The reason USC got hit as bad as it did was not really because of the seriousness of the offense, but because Mike Garrett completely botched the situation and infuriated the enforcement staff.They pretended like they had done nothing wrong, didn’t exactly bend over backward for the NCAA, and proposed football punishment that basically amounted to putting a letter of admonishment in a coach’s personnel file. Note how Miami is already taking steps to act as contrite as possible (e.g., self-imposing one year bowl ban)?
The only thing working against Miami is that the sports media flipped out when the Yahoo report came out, and that means there may be some pressure on the NCAA to make Miami an example. But if recent history is a guide, the punishment for Miami isn’t going to be as bad as many are imagining.
No Way
They impose a TV ban. The NCAA and the ACC know what makes the football world keep going and it isn’t academics. It will be worse than OSU but not as bad as USC. They just can’t prove some of the crazy stuff on that report. Only what the players or credible witnesses admit meaning shapiro does not count. Plus: the NCAA has no subpoena rights.
by MeBeFirst on Jan 15, 2012 11:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Exactly. People should just stop talking about TV bans
They’re off the table these days. I’m not even sure whether they would stand up in court if challenged, considering these TV contracts. If an Auburn get’s a TV ban, CBS/ESPN not only loses Auburn games, but loses an Alabama game, an LSU game, a UGA game, etc.
If I had a contract to drive a truck and I get pulled over for DUI
Would you be sure I wouldn’t lose my license because I had a contract to drive?
What if he's a certain truck driver who makes Pepsi millions of dollars per year?
I got you all figured out Nole Law.
Nice day for them. Now they need to hold these kids for 13 months, through a potential losing season, looming NCAA sanctions, etc.
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Got a feeling if he truly had/has a Bama offer and they want him, he'll end up there.
Unless being closer to home is a big factor.
#49 in the country is pretty darn high up
considering the total number of kids playing high school football, but after watching Chris Casher the other day at the all star game I can’t believe 24/7 has 48 players in front of him. Again, by scale, the top 100 are equivalent to the layer of lichen atop the point of the Great Pyramid of Giza, so it doesn’t begin to matter I suppose.
Casher is a gem
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
I gotta think him not playing his senior year is the reason for that
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 15, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Freaking, of course!
I forgot. It’s the simple stuff and the complex stuff, too, that I find hard. :) Thanks for the reminder.
Forgive me if this has been discussed but...
Rivals is reporting that Mario Pender has signed his LOI. Any truth to this?…If so I thought that you have to sign LOIs on NSD or after.
Yes, Pender has signed his LOI, as did Beatty and Glauser.
Those 3 are EE’s and on campus.
by Tony Mustian on Jan 15, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
He signed GIA paperwork. You are correct – LOIs are only signed on or after NSD.
LOI are Intent to enroll agreements at a particular school. GIA are the actual scholarship papers issued by the school.
FSU
this has probably been addressed in other threads, but are you connected to the university? you always seem to have really good insight regarding the team. just wondering what the connection is there? thanks in advance
personally, I wouldnt worry about it.
knows her stuff since I first saw her post (’07-i think) elsewhere.
wow has it been that long. Guess so.
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
FSUforever?
or something
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
ah, my mistake then
Thought I recalled you from another board.
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
Neither would the other be.
haha. Their treatment of her was quite unbearable. Not the reason, but a card in the deck of reasons that I stopped going.
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
Probably because the incite of a woman brings a tremendous value to the board. You have a great point of view on things that, frankly, I would have never thought of.
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 16, 2012 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
*insight. I thought that looked wrong
Guy on a Buffalo
by SteadfastNole on Jan 16, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
plus you know your s***
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 16, 2012 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
yeah she does
which is more than i can say for my fiance….wait for it she didn’t know what a first down was or the difference in offense and defense before this year(face palm)
FSU = Candi Fisher
the whole pregnancy thing was a sham.
Formerly known as 'stilts'
by BenDNole on Jan 16, 2012 9:34 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
and I still dont know.
"Sweet baby Jesus on Fire, I'm need of a damn lawyer and a miracle to pull my ass out of this."
No news yet
Thought with a weekend this big FSU would have some news to break on the recruiting front. Is there anything to make a splash to get TOSU and UM off the headlines?
stuff going around on texas sites
that MEJ’s dad said the visit went really well.
Fowler is going to bring his dad
on his OV to UF. Kid isn’t going to just quietly sign his LOI apparently. I never expected him too though
by westcoastnolefan on Jan 15, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
When can we expect to hear something?
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 15, 2012 9:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Learned not to believe in silents. Just relax fellas its going to be a VERY VERY good class.
by FSU on Jan 15, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
When we hear it!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody else have hope?
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UF
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
PJ Williams seems beyond solid.
“On the way home from Tallahassee i had a great visit i miss it already :( ……can’t wait!! FSU<———” – PJ Williams via Facebook
Looks like Leonard Williams enjoyed his visit as well..
“Damn that was a great night I feel like fam. Up here….college is where its at!!” – Leonard Williams via Facebook
Also interesting..
After Leonard Williams Visit he changed his profile picture to one of him at Jimbo Fisher’s football camp.. Rocking the gold helmet and all..
I think GatorHater5 is right.
Doesn’t look like we can get both
Says who?
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Here's the thing
If we bring in Leonard, who’s to say he stays a DE?
I really don’t think competition is they key here… if Fowler is fine with MEJ and Casher in the class, he shouldn’t worry about Leonard.
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He never really seemed that fine with it.
And he seems a lot less excited about adding another DE. I hope I;m wrong though.
I dunno man/lady
I think Dante has just been having fun all year with the recruiting process.
I think he is all Nole and trusts the coaches.
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I think that is up to Williams. If he commits Fowler may flip, but, If he doesn't Fowler will probably sign.
Of course I’m just speculating based on whats been said by Fowler. Of course if you are asking me I’d take Fowler
I asked this in the last thread and also posted about it above
I take Williams if I have to choose
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely think Williams is a more complete player
Kid is physical. Fowler may be a better pass rusher but Williams definitely will be able to push the pocket and dominate against the run
Which is what the *new* FSU defense WANTS.....not dyamic pass rush specialists.
Williams definitely will be able to push the pocket and dominate against the run
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Dante Fowler uSC visit
Just saw on twitter Fowler moved his USC visit to Jan 27….I’m anxious to see how all this plays out especially it being 1 week from nsd when he is out there
Then let him go elsewhere
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 15, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
You're really fine with taking Williams and dropping Fowler?...
I for one am not. Do we really need that many DEs in one class? IMO no need to be greedy and risk loosing Fowler.
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No doubt
great talent, at this point though tired of all his games, take Williams if he wants in, if Fowler flips so be it.
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Good point.
If Williams isn’t scared off by the 3 DEs we already have committed, then he is more then welcome. That is the kinda player we want
I don't think any of them are scared by the competition.
That’s what is great about this staff and the planning they do for recruits before they even sign. THey show them a roadmap of exactly how they picture them being used and stick to their word.
If you don’t believe it, just ask JWJ.
That guy should be starting at an LB position next year, but the staff kept their word and he will be fighting it out for RB playing time.
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I will say this:
If FSU lands MEJ, Casher, fowler, and Williams, I bet Fowler transfers if he doesn’t beat the others out.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 16, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
It is also the greatest DE haul ever. Throw in Goldman, and its a freaking coup on the DL. Puts UF’s class the other year to shame
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by SteadfastNole on Jan 16, 2012 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
They haven't done anything with it though
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
all three of those are pretty good. especially Floyd.
If that’s how we want to look at things, then I guess we’ll have to wait another couple years to see what happens with our class too.
Ehhh....so far Floyd has been good.
But Powell hasnt really done anything to warrant his lofty status coming out of HS.
Valid point, yes they are pretty good and should ball out next year.
Just haven’t been as dominant as i anticipated so far. The whole class really, transfers being another part of the equation.
Control the Sunshine State & sooner or later you'll control the country.
On paper
Puts UF’s class the other year to shame
that was the Mother of all DL hauls, and it has yielded some quality, it just didn’t live up to the NSD hype.
Dogs bark in the night but the caravan moves on.
He only needs to beat out Casher since MEJ and Williams play a different position
GO NOLES!!! SCALP EM!
Doesn't have to beat out, just has to be in the rotation
He need to cycle our DE’s the entire game. I want to have at least 3 quality DE’s on each side cycling the whole game #stayfreshkillQBs
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Basketball Recruiting wise..
Chris Walker is the 8th ranked player in the 2013 class 6’9" 205.. & he described the FSU/UNC game has “The Craziest Game i’ve ever seen” & Seemed real impressed with the atmosphere along with the players. Tweeted Ian Miller before the game saying “Let’s go bro get the W” It’s a long shot but anythings possible.
I wonder how many hours are spent this time of year...
…trying to figure out the importance of somebody’s cryptic tweet or what a friend’s brother-in-law’s barber said.
On Fowler
I saw this on another board and thought it was a good idea in theory, but what if we have Williams as a sleeper commit and have him sign after Fowler on NSD … best of both worlds, again in theory …
by Tallinasty_Nole on Jan 15, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions
VanGorder impact on Williams
I’m still not sold that we will land Williams…still several weeks to go and we have yet to see hoe VanGorder will fare recruiting as auburns new DC. Anybody know how bVG did recruiting back when he was at uga?
Van Gorder is one he'll of a coach and a very good recruiter
But he never stays at a job for long.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 16, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Hypothetical question...
IF we can land Darby, do we take another CB in this class as well if the option is on the table?
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i think so
With Reid and Rhodes gone next year I would feel better with one more. All of the depth behind them hasn’t proven anything on the field yet.
trying to remember...
Who else are we targeting besides leggett
Colin Blake
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Not me at least.
I think Howard is all Gator. Which really sucks.
'Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble this football.' John Heisman
Blake is very good
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 16, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Only if it's Blake
Not if it’s Leggett. Jmo
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 16, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
I like Leggetts game better than Blakes.....
Just hope we get Blake though, because isnt there pretty much no chance Leggett qualifies for FSU?
dont get me wrongg
I can’t wait to see what waisome, hunter, and smith do on the field
Pardon my ignorance
But what are NWaisome’s measurables?
Legacy starts now!
by Nole954 on Jan 15, 2012 11:30 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
somewhere near 5`9 180 lbs
Not 100% sure on how much weight he has gained in s&c program
how important is it for us to land another LB this class?
And can we lure harvey-clemons away from uga?
Not that important, next year will be a great yr for LB
And I’d say the chances we land Harvey-Clemons is doubtful similar to Tracy Howard.
by GatorHater5 on Jan 16, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
No shot at Clemons
He is recruiting for georgia.
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 16, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
And I think FSU Does need one more LB
It’ll be Northrup
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 16, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Technically yes
Realistically, nope
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 16, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
Reply fail to GH5!
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by NoleThruandThru on Jan 16, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
Ricardo Louis also visiting this weekend (Sat thru Mon)
If we don’t somehow pull in Nelson, I’d love to see us swing Louis. Louis is a baller.
by SeminoleDynastyMP on Jan 16, 2012 1:14 AM EST reply actions
I would really like to see him flip from Auburn to us.
Next best thing to nelson -big fast receiver that would compliment Bracy at the slot. Maybe Winston can get in his ear.
At first glance scrolling down that Paige I thought that said Goldman wasn't intrested in Fsu anymore
Glad it was goodman, never really thought we had a chance at him anyways
by TheRenegade29 on Jan 16, 2012 9:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's a phenomenal problem to have that 2 top 5 SDE's and 2 top 5 WDE's want to come to your program, and you may not have room
Let’s not all lose sight of that. Because it’s pretty f*n ridiculous.
Dont we almost NEED 4 defensive ends? 3 is probably a bare minimum for this class.
In the last 2 classes, who am I missing?
2010 – Werner – possibly gone after 2012
2011 – Tank – gone after 2012
Newberry – ceiling unknown currently
Dan Hicks would be the only 2009 guy for 2013, and he hasn’t taken the step to starter status yet.
Either way, I see us very inexperienced depth-wise at 2013 DE. If we luck out and score the 4 aforementioned this class, we’d still be relying on second year players to fill our 2-deep.
Grab all 4, no doubt about it, right?
by The K-Man on Jan 16, 2012 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
FSU loses top-3 DE's after 2012 season. I'm all in on L.Williams....
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by DRusso97 on Jan 16, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you on this one.
Take him, and let the chips fall where they may. If he isn’t scared off by the competition, I would rather have him than whoever is.
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by Chief Pit Bull on Jan 16, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think right now we have 7-8 more slots to fill
I also haven’t seen news about Secord transferring yet.
Who do we round out the class with?
1. Goldman
2. Northrup
3. Watson
4. Darby
5. Williams
That brings you to 20 commits and you still have room for 2-3 more, Peat, Howard, Nelson, JHC, Leggett, Gardner, Blake. Aside from a sign & place Leggett and possibly Blake, I don’t think anyone projects FSU landing those others. If we had 2-3 of the not likely group, then dayum!
Room does not appear to be a problem right now.
by NoleLaw on Jan 16, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Very good list, Rec'd.
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I caught up with CB Colin Blake
He really enjoyed his visit to FSU this weekend. He likes that FSU has coaching stablility, as Texas A&M just hired a new defensive coordinator yesterday(Mark Snyder) and with Oklahoma DB Coach Willie Martinez leaving(main recruiter). Depending on how he clicks with Snyder will impact if he solidifies his committment to A&M he told me. He also like how FSU uses Xavier Rhodes in the defense(Blake is a tall CB just like Rhodes)
this dude
is awesome.. really hope we see him in this class
by booshigotyou on Jan 16, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
This would make an interesting Signing Day
Darby and Blake? Darby or Blake?
by Burghnole36 on Jan 16, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Bud tweeted that Winston will not be visiting Ohio State.
I’d just like to say, publicly, to Urban Meyer: SUCK IT.
Agreed. Winston is, and always has been, all Nole.
But It’s always nice to stick it to urban in anything.
And somewhere Urban Meyer is sitting in a dark room thinking...
Why doesn’t a kid from the south want to visit my program…and wonders what excuse to use to get out of Ohio.
"Check out what happens when NFL coaches take my medicore QB's and limit their decision making ability"
WHAT A SALES PITCH
LOL. I think its more like don’t believe the criticism that what we’ve done offensively wont give you an opportunity to be successful in the NFL. I had two former starters win in college and now they’re on National TV in the playoffs.
Actually I suspect from what I’ve heard what tOSU will do on offense will have more diversity than at UF. During the sabbatical he’s had time to visit with a lot of people (Most notably Oregon). He also had to view each Big10 program up close (thanks ESPN — eyeroll). He should return to be a better coach.
It’s not feasible, but I wish all coaches were permitted to take a sabbatical every 7 years or so to recharge and learn new techniques from others
IMO this will make Randy Shannon much better in whatever role he ends up in
Read about him doing that at a lot of places. He’s always had a successful career as a DC, but obviously was a disaster as a head coach.
And I’d rather see Venables than Shannon as Clemson DC for that reason.
Reggie Northrup
Has been heard saying he was given an offer that wasn’t committable and felt disrespected that Fsu didn’t think he was good enough to be an immediate take but now has a committable offer and wants to wait and see but he loves Fsu
by duvalseminole on Jan 16, 2012 10:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
It's not about disrespect, it's about numbers, needs, and competition.
Our class was going to be smaller than usual to begin with and we had some needs to fill like K & P, making it even smaller. It’s not like we took 3 other LBs over him. We had 1 who is by all accounts the best LB in the country. As soon as another roster spot opened back up, then we give him the green light. I understand how he feels. Being that things are so tight and with the quality of the class, he may come to be thankful for the opportunity to join this stellar class.
Nelson Agholor
is blowing up twitter with FSU recruits…Eligwe, Winston, Christo, he also is retweeting anything FSU related
by reid-the-manuel on Jan 16, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions
Can you post any tweets
If that’s possible. Thanks
by Noles3 on Jan 16, 2012 12:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
easy enough
toyaFbaby703 LaToya Eason,PT, DPT
Only reason FSU beat UNC is bc they’re tryna get @NelsonAgh3 to commit. Any day UNC loses is a good day. #goduke
GenoHayes54 Geno Hayes
I don’t tweet about football for a reason…Football doesn’t make the man! Life does
Chuck2Live SupeR CooLin
Phone battery low….n my charger n sum random person car frm last niteee
v v v v
@NelsonAgh3
Nelson Agholor
@Chuck2Live only in tally!
NelsonAgh3 Nelson Agholor
Todays UNC vs FSU game will help me get my hoop game back
NelsonAgh3 Nelson Agholor
Kinda excited to see florida state today! Another official means I’m one step closer to making a choice and living with it
NelsonAgh3 Nelson Agholor
Had a great weekend at FSU with my African brother @MarkussEligwe
15 Jan
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I wouldn't exactly say he was blowing up twitter..
But he was tweeting a lot about FSU during his visit. I saw him Retweet one thing of Jameis Winston but it was nothing football related. He was interacting with Christo & Eligwe the most meaningful tweet i’ve seen from him this weekend was “Had a great weekend at FSU with my African brother @MarkussEligwe” He also was rooting for UNC to win the basketball game.
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