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Florida State Football Recruiting: 'Noles Make Final Push With Big Weekend - SBNation.com
Florida State is welcoming a big crop of uncommitted recruits this weekend. Find out who will be visiting.

Top 50 for 2012.
3. (23) Florida State (9-4, 5-3) Commence the bashing, but Seminoles will break through. FSU plays 4 in the top 25.

Coming to ESPN’s “GameDay” taping at FSU? Here’s an FAQ – Chopping Block – Seminoles Blog – Orlando Sentinel

Video: FSU's offseason focus - ACC Blog - ESPN

The Top 100 Games Of The 2011 College Football Season, 100 Through 71 - SBNation.com
Bill put together an amazing writeup. This needs to be read by you.

96. Champs Sports Bowl: Florida State 18, Notre Dame 14 (Dec. 29). Big-boy football on the same day as the Baylor-Washington track meet.

88. Wake Forest 35, Florida State 30 (Oct. 8). Sure, it took countless injuries and five turnovers, but the Deacs pull the shocker and hand the Seminoles a jarring third straight loss.

84. Clemson 35, Florida State 30 (Sept. 24). Oh, Clemson. You sure did own September.

73. Virginia 14, Florida State 13 (Nov. 19). Florida State is saved by replay, then blows a shot at a game-winning field goal.

7. Oklahoma 23, Florida State 13 (Sept. 17). As with Georgia-South Carolina, this is another "if we knew then what we know now" game. Both of these teams would be decimated by injuries, and each would lose three more games the rest of the way. But with the stakes that we thought this game held at the time, this was perhaps the most exciting, dramatic example of big boy football in the 2011 season. Doak Campbell Stadium was rocking, both teams were delivering body blows, and when backup quarterback Clint Trickett (in for the injured E.J. Manuel) found Rashad Greene for an incredible, game-tying catch-and-run with 9:32 remaining...

... things got crazy. That Oklahoma was able to lock things down and win going away was a major achievement and a display of mental strength the Sooners would struggle to duplicate the rest of the way.

ACC's 2011 ACC All-Bowl team - ACC Blog - ESPN

WR: Rashad Greene, Florida State: He had five catches for 99 yards and a touchdown in the 18-14 win against Notre Dame, and was named the MVP of the Champs Sports Bowl. His 18-yard touchdown catch with just over 13 minutes to play gave the Noles the 15-14 lead.

OT: Zebrie Sanders, Florida State: He was the lone senior on an offensive line that started four freshmen. He posted a career-high grade of 94 percent in his final game at left tackle.

G: Josue Matias, Florida State: As one of four true freshman starters on the Noles’ line, Matias posted a grade of 82 percent from the left guard position in his first career start.

DE: Brandon Jenkins, Florida State: He finished with two tackles (2 solos), including one sack for minus-10 yards. His sack in the third quarter took Notre Dame out of field goal range.

LB: Nigel Bradham, Florida State: He closed out his career with a team-high nine tackles (eight solo) against Notre Dame, finishing the season with a team-leading 86. He was the first FSU player to lead the team in tackles for three consecutive years since All-American Marvin Jones (1990-92). Bradham also added his third career interception in the win.

DB: Lamarcus Joyner, Florida State: With Notre Dame inside the five-yard line, Joyner intercepted his team-best fourth pass of the season. His 77-yard kick-off return after Notre Dame went up 14-0 was the longest kickoff return by a Seminole this year. It was also the third-longest in FSU bowl and Champs Sports Bowl history.

Special teams: P: Shawn Powell, Florida State: He punted 8 times for 378 yards and a 47.2 average. He had three punts over 50 yards, and two inside the 20-yard line. His performance sealed his title as the nation’s leader in punting.

College Football Recruiting: A Primer For The Layperson - SBNation.com
What is recruiting? Does it matter? How does it work? Is everyone cheating? With national signing day not even three weeks away, it's time to get some answers. Yes, of course everyone's cheating.

Hurricanes coach Al Golden talks recruiting, underclassmen, QBs etc. | 'Canes Watch blog: Miami Hurricanes | The Palm Beach Post

About his reaction to five underclassmen leaving the program for the NFL: "Generally, I was surprised – surprised by the expediency of it, surprised by the fact they didn’t wait for their draft advisory reports to come back. In 15 years of coaching, I’ve never seen that. That was certainly surprising. Ultimately, it’s not my decision. We try to give them all the facts, we try to teach them the process and what’s important. I was surprised by how quickly they decided. It was a month in advance of the deadline. It’s a function of what the young person is listening to. If they’re listening to agents or draft experts, there’s many instances where kids are on a draft board somewhere as the 18th pick in the draft and then they go number 60 or 75 in the draft. That’s about a $7 million mistake. I can’t explain that. If you’re a student-athlete and you have the talent to be a first-round pick, then you should cultivate your talent."

LOL

ITB Podcast: Bomani Jones Tackles College Football
Bomani Jones stops by the podcast to talk about players' rights vs a playoff for college football plus a nice little jaunt through the entire CFB landscape.

Kevin Steele Forced Out at Clemson - Shakin The Southland

We have heard several disturbing things about Steele's possible psychological breakdown during the Orange Bowl game. Multiple sources have said that he was calling plays from his days with the Panthers, which aren't in the Clemson playbook, and as such the players were totally confused. It reportedly happened during the Auburn game as well. I do not know if that is true, and frankly think it a bit farfetched, but I do know that Steele has a reputation for being a nervous wreck on gamedays. I'm sure most of you recall that he passed out on the sidelines during a game, and I have heard many times that he requires an IV for fluids because he's such a wreck and won't eat at all on gameday. Hopefully he can get these things corrected for his own health.
This seems like a serious health issue and I hope he gets better.

Can we still call it Beamerball? - Gobbler Country
Considering VT had special teams ranked in the 80s this year, uh, no.

Bradford Officially Out as Defensive Coordinator at Maryland - Testudo Times
The guys at TT want Randy Shannon. So does Jimbo, I bet.

Terps' Locksley guaranteed $500K annually - Washington Times
New Maryland offensive coordinator Mike Locksley will receive $500,000 in guaranteed compensation annually and be eligible for bonuses based on the Terrapins' recruiting rankings. LOL

Boston College Football 2012: Offseason Storylines, Defense Edition - BC Interruption
Very well done article here worth the read.

Who Replaces Luke Kuechly?
How Will The Secondary Look in 2012?
What Does BC Do With Kaleb Ramsey?
Who replaces Ryan Quigley?
Can Nate Freese Overcome a Rough 2011?

Eagle in Atlanta -- atleagle.com: What was Max Holloway thinking?
BC is going to be decent next year because the Eagles return everything, but one defensive end left early and isn't likely to be drafted.

230 Things to Occupy 230 Long Days

NCAA formally closes the ‘Cecil Newton Loophole,’ 13 months too late | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports

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Everyone here knows my disdain for scUM, but

IMO and in all fairness, I would rather Randy Shannon go somewhere else and out of ACC. I believe Randy is an excellent defense coach who should not have been given a head coaching position, but nevertheless he is a proven defensive coach and coordinator. His defense’s were always near the top of the rankings.

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

True,

except against Jimbo’s offenses.

Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

True,but as defensive coor at UM,

his defenses ranked as follows in total defense nationally:
2001 – 6th and beat FSU
2002 – 7th and beat FSU
2003 – 2nd and beat FSU
2004 – 28th and beat FSU
2005 – 4th FSU wins
2006 – 7th FSU wins

Not all the credit goes to RS for the UM wins, but 5 out of his 6 years as DC their defense finished ranked 7th or better nationally. Not too shabby.

>------::----::------->Spearing 'em and Scalping 'em like it's 1999
I'm not so sure this Jimbo fella is the right man for the job.

by FrankDNole on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I know.

Lot’s of those Miami teams were very similar to what we had this year.

Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Jan 13, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Notice that list stops when Jimbo comes aboard?

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by DRusso97 on Jan 13, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Combination. JB no loger calling plays, and Randy becoming the HC.

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by DRusso97 on Jan 14, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah....I want him to go to Clemson.
I would rather Randy Shannon go somewhere else

I want Randy Shannon in position to destroy FSU’s greatest ACC threat…..just like he did in Coral Gables.
To great effect, I might add.

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by DRusso97 on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow
Multiple sources have said that he was calling plays from his days with the Panthers, which aren’t in the Clemson playbook, and as such the players were totally confused.

If true that is some serious stuff. That sounds like a real mental disorder. It’s one thing to be a wreck, it’s another to not even remember what team you’re calling plays for.

"Nothing like a tight one." -Heather Cox

by FTSNole on Jan 13, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe just an anxiety control issue. Like when the Fonz got rattled by the mean coach in The Waterboy. Except this time it was the realization that his family’s wellbeing was dependent on Dabo that made him freak out.

by FredGarvin...NoleProstitute on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Steele

Does anyone know if he had similar issues at FSU? Maybe the guy should just stick to recruiting coordinator, good lord.

by ONOLE05 on Jan 13, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ridiculous. I've heard some things about Steele but nothing like this.

He was the perfect scapegoat for Dabo, and this remains the craziest Steele story to date.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Crazier than getting choked out by an NFL player on the sidelines?

I was just thinking the other day about the play you linked, and whether any other otherwise journeyman coach/assistant has had as crazy a career as Kevin Steele. And from a guy who’s general demeanor doesn’t automatically scream “I’m a lunatic.”

Hell, some people thought he was at one time the heir apparent to Bobby Bowden. Just one more odd footnote in a weird career.

by LouC on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

When you say some people

do you mean Kevin Steele?

Shot a Gator in Jean Shorts just to watch him die.

by AMFKNole on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Yeah, no doubt that was crazy too.

There’s definitely something there.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Coffee is for closer's Jimbo.

Go grab a cup of Joe and work your magic this weekend. Hopefully, we can pick up the CB.

FSU back-2-back state champs!! 52-14

by CashvilleNole on Jan 13, 2012 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

PUT THAT COFFEE DOWN!

One of the greatest movies ever!

"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat"

by Blue Horseshoe on Jan 13, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

let the 2012 kool-aid drinking rally begin

media hype machine is back and hard at work boasting FSU in the top 10 preseason rankings … i fear a painful tumble down the ladder a la 2011 when the season begins and talented but still young offense stumbles

by sovnole on Jan 13, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

don't know about y'all but

I’m uncomfortable with the fact that I feel better about my team during the off-season (pre-season hype, NSD, etc.) than the season itself… 2012 better change this!

Championship!

by TLHWG on Jan 13, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i felt great about the team this season

for 2 weeks anyway

You tell em I'm coming, and Hell's comin with me!!!!

by DownByTheRiverWalkinOnWater on Jan 13, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think West Virginia steals all the pre-season thunder.

"You can’t live a perfect day until you do something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
— John Wooden

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

by pasadenanole22 on Jan 13, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone think Golden is serious?

Seems awfully naive if so.

Formerly known as 'stilts'

by BenDNole on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Golden's comments should qualify him for a 2012 Tommy.

I’m not sure what’s worse: Sharing a damning indictment of oneself with the world or not even having the ability to recognize it. Of course I know which is worse, but the mental exercise is half the fun.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Jan 13, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

This is the first thing I think Golden definitely could’ve handled better at UM.

Formerly known as 'stilts'

by BenDNole on Jan 13, 2012 2:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Maybe he actually is a little bit naive

The guy did come from Temple…how many of his players did he have to worry about leaving early at THAT program?

Formerly known as Randall W. Spetman.

by CornNole on Jan 13, 2012 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think Golden is soooo detailed oriented that he just can't believe that these kids actually just jump blindly inot the draft.

I’m sure he didn’t have any players at Temple that thought they were better than the experts said they were.

Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Jan 13, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is why I think he's naive.

I think these guys leaving has little to do with them thinking they’re better than they are. He should see that, and not draw attention to the fact that he has guys leaving for the NFL who aren’t ready. Begs the question.

Formerly known as 'stilts'

by BenDNole on Jan 13, 2012 3:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

For some reason (coaching), Miami seems to send kids to the NFL who

“aren’t ready” and then just blow up the first time they are coached. I think some of these that are leaving now are depending on that.

Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Jan 13, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow....Clemson going with the "Nuts and Sluts" strategy to explain away their 70 point demolishing

If this is not true re: Steele I hope Clemson burns for trying to float it out there.

"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat"

by Blue Horseshoe on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

Yes thats because Mickey sucked his final year.

I don’t care if you inundate 265 pound talentless walk-ons with the Ravens playbook, they still suck.

Not tho' the soldier knew, Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do & die, Into the valley of Death Rode the 85.

by Shooter McFrattin on Jan 13, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Do I say that he should anywhere in my post?

Not tho' the soldier knew, Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do & die, Into the valley of Death Rode the 85.

by Shooter McFrattin on Jan 13, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that not what you were implying?

BTW, the statement that Leach doesn’t have a playbook is hyperbole that he uses for shock factor.

by FSUjab on Jan 13, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

In fact,

Adam James’ playbook was glow-in-the-dark.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Jan 13, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok let me clarify,
Jimbo calls a great game, but if these guys are screwing up protection/routes/reads maybe we can simplify the offense a little? We don’t have to go all "Vince Lombardi" and junk the entire playbook for 7 plays run to perfection, but maybe we can have a couple that work on the reg no matter who is in there?

Did you just gloss over that part? Are we clear on this? Ok, moving on.

1) How do you know its hyperbole? Leach has an entire narrative in his book on how/why he doesn’t use a playbook and how he and Hal Mumme never used one at Valdosta. Do you know something I don’t? If so, please illuminate me.

2) Leach ran a play called “Sixes” or as most traditional offenses would call “verticals”. They drilled it over and over and over from spring practices all the way through fall. They averaged 9.8 yards per play with that call. Not per completion – PER PLAY. They ran 6 plays on the final drive against #1 Texas to win the game as the clock expired. 5 times they ran “Sixes” including the final pass to Crabtree in the endzone. They ran the play 20 times during the entire game. He said he wished he ran it 50. My question is, why in the flying FLYING F*CK cant we execute a very simple play with the same type of success? Doesn’t have to be “verticals”. How bout a running play for 3 yards? Is that asking too much? Why were Leach’s scrubs able to execute very basic formations with tremendous success and I’m forced to watch Beau Reliford every Saturday?

Not tho' the soldier knew, Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do & die, Into the valley of Death Rode the 85.

by Shooter McFrattin on Jan 13, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

We had a top 10 offense when not bombarded with injuries.

/Nods head.

>>---l>

by DKfromVA on Jan 13, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Look, I'm not doggin Jimbo's offense.

I know it works. It works when you have veteran lineman. It works when you have an intelligent QB (which I believe we still do). It works when Jimbo is in complete control and everyone is executing and doing their jobs, but a large part of problem was that players were not against some really bad teams. I agree the scheme is fine and if I recall correctly, those commentors were complaining more about the unimaginative play-calling than the actual scheme. They are wrong. Jimbo is a wonderful play-caller. My concern is – why cant we execute against inferior opponents even with injuries? We all read Bud’s play-by-play analysis on Tuesdays. Answer these questions -

1) Why was Beau Reliford on the field every Saturday?

2) Injuries or not, how did we get handled by a 3 man rush with a 280 lb nose guard at Wake Forest?

3) Why couldnt we punch it in for a touchdown on the goal line against UVA on the last home game of the season?

4) How did Furman get more offensive output than Florida State against the Florida Gators?

Even if we started all 5 freshmen on the line, why cant we execute basic basic run packages? Our players are elite. Leach took a bunch of scrubs and made the drill, drill, drill, drill, and once they got it perfect, they drilled some more. They aren’t near the type of players we recruit at FSU, yet they produce on the field because they can execute very basic formations. Why couldn’t we do that?

Not tho' the soldier knew, Some one had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do & die, Into the valley of Death Rode the 85.

by Shooter McFrattin on Jan 14, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

1-4 are ALL answered by one phrase that has defined the season: "we lost 5 of top 9 OL from spring"

1) Beau is a blocking TE. Jabaris can’t block or catch, and NOL still isn’t 100% on the blocking front.

2) Precisely that – injuries & lack of cohesion. Datko’s last game was CU. WF was first game without Datko making calls on the line. If I remember right, this was the game we put Bobby Hart at LT. Didn’t Spurlock not play a down after Wake? This game was a whirlwind disaster for that OL.

3) Goes right back to OL. Note that the next week was spent practicing short yardage, and we executed well in short yardage vs Florida, a team with a much better DL than UVA.

4) OL & gameplan. Jimbo called that game not to turn over the ball after being up 2 TD’s. This involved a ton of runs on 3rd and long to put Shawn Powell in a better position. Run the hidden yardage on the UF-FSU game and you’d be very surprised how much we dominated field position that whole game.

Why don’t people understand no unit in the country could suffer this many injuries and produce at a top 25 level?

by jmnpb996 on Jan 16, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Add in UF was paying more attention to us than to Furman

by FSU on Jan 21, 2012 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Read a Leach interview

He and Holgorsen do start out with five basic plays. As these plays are mastered other plays are added which basically are fun from approximately the same formations however making it much easier for the players to understand what is going on. In other words the playbook doesn’t expand until they are ready. Thus you don’t call play ten and then play 12 has an entirely different formations and set of blocking assignments etc. We know Jimbo uses a lot of different formations and it probably is hard to learn.

If I were Jimbo I would take a look at the Boise and WVU offense and take a serious look at adopting some of the core plays as they do seem to work. Part of the edge is your players understanding the plays better.

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Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear

by DocHoliday2 on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I've read his interviews and I know he SAYS he doesn't have a playbook.

I guess it depends on what your definition of a “playbook” is…

by FSUjab on Jan 13, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This is very true. Some people are moving away from written ones (digital & powerpoint slides with video/audio on DVDs) in football, basketball.

by FSU on Jan 13, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree somewhat with your post.

However, when Jimbo explains his offensive philosophy it sounds simple as well. He’ll have the same play with different looks. Example, 3 wide instead of double TE. FSU’s inconsistencies, IMO, resided in our inability to block along the interior line. Regarding WV, they gave Clemson a taste of their own medicine. Every play had somebody in motion. I was surprised they didn’t adjust in the during the game. Holgo must live his life by the K.I.S.S method. Dude is fun to watch.

FSU back-2-back state champs!! 52-14

by CashvilleNole on Jan 13, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

easy… easy…

by FSU on Jan 13, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You are referring to different ways to break down a defense

Leach runs out there and says this is what we do and you need to stop us while Fisher looks at a defense and decides what to attack by what that team does worse. Leach creates match up issues by formation while Fisher creates match up issues with line checks.

There’s a lot of bleed over in that Fisher will also run the same play out of multiple formations and Leach will give his QB the ability to check at the line. However, Fisher relies more on the run game than Leach did by a large amount (Fisher’s offense is based off of power running while Leach’s is based off of mesh concepts and other air raid staples).

While neither is better I believe Fisher’s way will work against more defenses than Leach’s. Keep in mind that Fisher has coached multiple top 10 offenses in his time here. Unfortunately when the line doesn’t block it doesn’t matter if you have a play book or not.

by evenflow58 on Jan 13, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The end of the UVA game still makes me cringe. Almost as bad as when I saw the Men’s BB lose in San Antonio last year to VCU.

by thirdcoastnole on Jan 13, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

It SHOULD make you cringe.

There were some lousy games this year if there were only 72 better than that cluster. If Les Miles had managed that circus act of a finish, TN would still be satirizing him as a wild-eyed buffoon with a delusional cult following.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I still see les brains as a wild-eyed buffoon with a delusional cult following.

There is absolutely nothing he can do to change this!

The Seminoles are still America's team
Can there be one with soul so dead whose heart does not leap at the sigh of Renegade and the flaming spear

by DocHoliday2 on Jan 13, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice SBNation article Bud.

I noticed you had an unheralded one a few weeks back too. How does that work? Are you required to write for them? Get a chunk of dough for every article? Just curious.

by FSUjab on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

I actually run their recruiting coverage.


Tomahawk Nation Nole-Holds-Barred Analysis of FSU Sports!

by Bud Elliott on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

(squints) Branching out…we see :)

by FSU on Jan 13, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't usually recommend a link:

But for anyone who feels like they’re on the outside looking in when it comes to recruiting, Spencer’s “A Primer for the Layperson” pretty much tells you all there is to it, ha. Great for girlfriends, wives, and any football fan who thinks the season ends once the bowl game goes final.

Tomahawk Nation didn't cause my divorce. It was merely a contributing factor.

by TRMNole on Jan 13, 2012 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

"Cecil Newton Loophole"

What a sham that was. We know what happened and yet everyone goes free and clear. Newtons for Congress!

by SolidNole on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

RE: Beamerball

I think Frank Beamer’s special teams have kind of gone the way of Mickey Andrews’ defenses.

Beamer absolutely, 100% changed the game of college football, and there aren’t all that many people you can say that about. Before he came along, ST were an afterthought. Now it seems weird and a point of criticism for fans when a school like Georgia Tech doesn’t have a special teams coordinator.

But like everything else, now that he’s basically forced the rest of the college game to catch up to him, he doesn’t hold the advantage any more, and better atheletes and younger, hungrier minds will pass him by.

It’s almost predictible really. But he absolutely should always get credit for revolutionizing that part of the game, no matter how his special teams are now.

by LouC on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

Kinda like Billy Beane with Moneyball.

He finds a way to get an advantage with a small market team, but the idiot puts it in book form for everyone else to use. Now “moneyball” isn’t the game changer it was.

No, I haven’t watched the movie yet.

Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Jan 13, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know that he's such an idiot for putting the concepts in a book.

To the contrary, now he’s cashing in. First a book, now a movie.

by FSUjab on Jan 13, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

From a purely competitve baseball point,

it was dumb. Would I have done the same thing? Probably.

Most Miami fans have a bead case of SARS. Slap Ass Retarded Syndrome.

by Nole Resurrected on Jan 13, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...

but Beane didn’t write Moneyball, Michael Lewis did.

by seminalseminole on Jan 13, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone else was already headed that direction anyway before the book

in pretty much every sport. Saw a book in the book store the other day called Soccernomics which I guess is supposed to be the soccer version.

by TuckNole on Jan 13, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Then Beamerball must have gone away much faster.

The BCS Championship game in 2000 that FSU beat Va Tech in, Beamerball gave up a blocked punt for a TD, and a punt return for a TD.

They were all Michael Vick.

"You can’t live a perfect day until you do something for someone who will never be able to repay you."
— John Wooden

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

by pasadenanole22 on Jan 13, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I always felt that FSU had more big special teams plays than VT. Think of all the blocked punts, blocked kicks, trick plays, and returns ran back for a touchdown we had when Mickey was the Special Teams coach.

I think it should have been more rightly called Mickey Ball

Guy on a Buffalo

by SteadfastNole on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

FSU & Miami both put their best athletes often starters on KOs, etc

by FSU on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

The notion of "BeamerBall" might have come about

because of deficiencies in other areas of VT, along with a few timely trick plays in their ST unit. I also think at one point VT had the #1 amount of blocked kicks or something since Beamer arrived. But yeah, I always thought it was all hype.

by stevib on Jan 13, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i believe your correct on the #1 stat at one point. It’s the myth perpetuating itself.

by FSU on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

And total lack of accountability to be reasonably intelligent about CFB.

You are more than the choices that you've made, You are more than the sum of your past mistakes, you are more than the problems you create, you are more, You've been remade - Tenth Avenue North

by FSUvaFan on Jan 14, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

ESPN is all about clicks on the internet or ratings on TV. Their personalities will say/do anything to grab your attention. Seems like there is more editorializing there than actual reporting more and more often.

by FSU on Jan 14, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

nods head

At least theres a TN to give me hope.

You are more than the choices that you've made, You are more than the sum of your past mistakes, you are more than the problems you create, you are more, You've been remade - Tenth Avenue North

by FSUvaFan on Jan 14, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  


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